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Date:      Fri, 21 Dec 2001 11:56:00 -0800
From:      "Kevin Oberman" <oberman@es.net>
To:        "Knightstalker" <knight.stalker@verizon.net>
Cc:        freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: any difference between cable(TV) and phone line high speed internet 
Message-ID:  <200112211956.fBLJu1d16378@ptavv.es.net>
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sat, 22 Dec 2001 14:24:33 EST." <003801c18b1e$4c3201f0$0100a8c0@screamer> 

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> From: "Knightstalker" <knight.stalker@verizon.net>
> Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2001 14:24:33 -0500
> Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
> 
> On top of that, the difference is shared media.  Cable is shared by everyone
> on that particular segment.  DSL is not shared media.

Well, the interconnect to your desk is not shared, but congestion can
occur anyplace other than that and it's all shared from that point.

FWIW, while with @Home I regularly checked performance and never saw a
DL speed less than 1 Mbps from a well connected net that peered with
@Home. Typical was about 3 Mbps. That means I was getting the same UL
speed and usually more than triple the DL speed of that "private" DSL
link (assuming the standard "home" connection at 384/128.

At this rate I could not see ANY justification for DSL (actually it's
usually ADSL) when they actually charge you more for it than the cable
AT&T did.

Unfortunately, ATT Broadband has not performed as well as @Home did. I
have seen speeds of as low as 64 Kbps since they took over, although
it seems better, now. Last time I checked I was seeing about 1.5 Mbps.

R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer
Energy Sciences Network (ESnet)
Ernest O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab)
E-mail: oberman@es.net			Phone: +1 510 486-8634

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