From owner-cvs-all Mon Jul 24 10:24: 1 2000 Delivered-To: cvs-all@freebsd.org Received: from zippy.osd.bsdi.com (zippy.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F4E937B53C; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 10:23:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.osd.bsdi.com) Received: from localhost (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.osd.bsdi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA25876; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 10:18:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.osd.bsdi.com) To: "Andrey A. Chernov" Cc: Warner Losh , Marcel Moolenaar , Will Andrews , Marcel Moolenaar , cvs-committers@FreeBSD.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/etc Makefile src/include Makefile src/release Makefile src/release/picobsd/build Makefile.mfs src/release/picobsd/custom Makefile.mfs src/release/picobsd/dial Makefile.mfs src/release/picobsd/install Makefile.mfs In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 24 Jul 2000 08:50:32 +0400." <20000724085030.A28936@nagual.pp.ru> Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 10:18:35 -0700 Message-ID: <25873.964459115@localhost> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > It is impossible to work in the project when unacceptable attitude and > ways to "solve" we see becomes approved by principals of the project. This > is not an emotions but pure practical and very sad for me conclusion. I don't want to add further fuel to this fire, but I think Andrey is being just a little too selective in seeing where attitudes or solutions were flawed in this whole sad chain of events. You can't just commit something and then ignore a good week's worth of moaning and screaming about it in various lists which you SHOULD be reading without expecting something to happen. Andrey basically did a hit-and-run on the tree and then declined to participate seriously in the discussion and suggested fixes which followed, a decision which makes any subsequent accusation of dysfunctional communication or attitudes somewhat surrealistic at best. "Let he who is without sin..." If Andrey still wants to leave the project over one comparatively small set of changes then that's his perogative and he'll be missed. He certainly won't be leaving because of what the principals did, however, since he was entirely the architect of his own misfortune in this affair and I hope that other committers have learned a valuable lesson about how *not* to do things from it. - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message