From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 20 00:43:19 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F38062B1 for ; Wed, 20 Nov 2013 00:43:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BAA8B29E1 for ; Wed, 20 Nov 2013 00:43:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-117-74.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.117.74]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2BA713C71B; Wed, 20 Nov 2013 01:43:17 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id rAK0h3FX003479; Wed, 20 Nov 2013 01:43:03 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2013 01:43:03 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Gary Kline Subject: Re: math "formulae" using libreoffice Message-Id: <20131120014303.7eb2bd44.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20131120000851.GA8007@ethic.thought.org> References: <20131120000851.GA8007@ethic.thought.org> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.16 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2013 00:43:19 -0000 On Tue, 19 Nov 2013 16:08:51 -0800, Gary Kline wrote: > Anybody know how I would create the symbols (using "S" and "lim") > to convey: > > int from {X} to {Y} > lim as X approaches infinity > > ?? > > note that the "S" is the integral symbol. I dont know what text > to write for the "limit" part. Even though it would probably be much easier to do that kind of typesetting in LaTeX (because word processors have shown that they are a terrible tool for scientific writing, or for writing in general) and then export the result as EPS (or make a screenshot and export that to PNG and include it as an image), here's what I've tried: Menu: Insert -> Object -> Formula (starts the formula editor) Select the "Sigma a" category (operators) Select S x (integral x) Select Sigma a=... b=... (lower and upper boundary) Enter "x" and "y" accordingly After the integral, enter the word "lim" Select Sigma a=... (lower boundary) Enter "x" Select the "a speechbubble" category (others) Select the right-pointing arrow Select the infinity symbol (first one in this category) Note that the menu entries are translated. I'm using the german version of OpenOffice here, so the english captions might be a bit different. The formula which is the result of this terribly complicated process is: int from{x} to{y} lim from{x rightarrow infinity} The will be replaced by whatever follows. Maybe you could simply copy'n'paste this formula into the formula editor's lower window ("programming window") and start further editing from that, I think that's much easier than the clicking orgy described above. You should get something like this: y / | lim / x -> oo x There's an alternative, much worse: Use Insert -> Special character and create the required text by "microformatting". It's dirty and will take much longer, and any change is complicated. Maybe this page can be helpful: https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/OOo3_User_Guides/Math_Guide/Entering_a_formula As I said, LaTeX's $\int_x^y \lim_{x \to \infty}$ is easier. :-) Helpful page: http://www.maths.tcd.ie/~dwilkins/LaTeXPrimer/Calculus.html -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ...