From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 14 09:08:46 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: doc@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53BC516A407 for ; Sun, 14 Jan 2007 09:08:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joel@FreeBSD.org) Received: from av10-1-sn2.hy.skanova.net (av10-1-sn2.hy.skanova.net [81.228.8.181]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE5F113C457 for ; Sun, 14 Jan 2007 09:08:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joel@FreeBSD.org) Received: by av10-1-sn2.hy.skanova.net (Postfix, from userid 502) id 889E8380AA; Sun, 14 Jan 2007 10:08:44 +0100 (CET) Received: from smtp4-1-sn2.hy.skanova.net (smtp4-1-sn2.hy.skanova.net [81.228.8.92]) by av10-1-sn2.hy.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6124D38084; Sun, 14 Jan 2007 10:08:44 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.1.199] (81-234-214-163-no68.tbcn.telia.com [81.234.214.163]) by smtp4-1-sn2.hy.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3990F37E46; Sun, 14 Jan 2007 10:08:44 +0100 (CET) From: Joel Dahl To: Hiroki Sato In-Reply-To: <20070114.015751.59745560.hrs@allbsd.org> References: <1168562996.1100.42.camel@jesus.automatvapen.se> <20070112.201104.113738010.hrs@allbsd.org> <1168633900.1082.38.camel@jesus.automatvapen.se> <20070114.015751.59745560.hrs@allbsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso8859-1 Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2007 10:08:42 +0100 Message-Id: <1168765723.1100.13.camel@jesus.automatvapen.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.8.2.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: RFC: The end of the contributors article X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2007 09:08:46 -0000 Sön 2007-01-14 klockan 01:57 +0900 skrev Hiroki Sato: > Joel Dahl wrote > in <1168633900.1082.38.camel@jesus.automatvapen.se>: > > jo> Fre 2007-01-12 klockan 20:11 +0900 skrev Hiroki Sato: > jo> > It is good to make the contributors list up-to-date, but what is the > jo> > benefit to move it to the www tree? And where is the source file? > jo> > jo> You'll get to see the source when I have something to show you. > > Thanks. I'll wait. > > jo> > I think issue we have for the list is that this sort of information > jo> > is scattered in the doc/www tree and the scattered information is > jo> > difficult to maintain (remember a case of the mirror site list). So > jo> > I think the direction we should go is to have a directory for the > jo> > developers, build a structure to pick up necessary information from > jo> > it, and leave the maintenance to each developer (like pgpkey). > jo> > Maintaining such a directory in an HTML page is not a good idea---if > jo> > we have active maintainers of the list it will work, but it will not > jo> > last long unfortunately. Since I could not find the source file of > jo> > your proposed team.html I am not sure how this page was generated, > jo> > but if it was done by hand let's take account of the maintenance > jo> > issue first. > jo> > jo> I've been maintaining the contributors article for almost 1,5 year now, > jo> in case you haven't noticed. This won't change anytime soon. > > Yes, I know. I do not doubt if your activity would change. > > The matter I am concerned about is simply moving the contributors > list to an HTML page would not help to reuse/centralize such > scattered information (for example, we have some duplicated > information in pgpkeys-*.sgml and the committers-guide, too). To me, > your proposed change is to update the list (yes, this is great. > thanks a lot!) but there is no obvious reason to move all of the > related information in the source file to the www tree. > > jo> - This information does not really belong in an article. > > Could you elaborate this? As mentioned in the previous mail, I think > this information should be in an independent database file, not > belong in either article or an HTML page in the www tree. Yes, I remember you suggesting this XX months ago, and I *really* like the concept of storing developer information (such as login id, pgpkey, current hats, commit bit type, location etc) in a database, but the truth is that I haven't seen any progress since then. I consider my work to be the best solution in the meantime. -- Joel From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 14 10:58:24 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28EC016A415; Sun, 14 Jan 2007 10:58:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marc@blackend.org) Received: from smtp3-g19.free.fr (smtp3-g19.free.fr [212.27.42.29]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D28DE13C459; Sun, 14 Jan 2007 10:58:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marc@blackend.org) Received: from abigail.blackend.org (bgn92-3-82-227-222-164.fbx.proxad.net [82.227.222.164]) by smtp3-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9070C49F50; Sun, 14 Jan 2007 11:58:22 +0100 (CET) Received: from abigail.blackend.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by abigail.blackend.org (8.13.4/8.13.3) with ESMTP id l0EAwMZ3074145; Sun, 14 Jan 2007 11:58:22 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from marc@abigail.blackend.org) Received: (from marc@localhost) by abigail.blackend.org (8.13.4/8.13.3/Submit) id l0EAwLVB074144; Sun, 14 Jan 2007 11:58:21 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from marc) Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2007 11:58:21 +0100 From: Marc Fonvieille To: Robert Watson Message-ID: <20070114105821.GD65886@abigail.blackend.org> Mail-Followup-To: Robert Watson , Giorgos Keramidas , murray@freebsd.org, Wes Peters , developers@freebsd.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org, Mark Linimon References: <50FF9A98-DFE9-4CF7-8760-B0AF2FE1F339@opensail.org> <20070113132216.GA59518@abigail.blackend.org> <20061113153246.J38359@fledge.watson.org> <20061113225512.GD1634@kobe.laptop> <20061128232326.T95096@fledge.watson.org> <50FF9A98-DFE9-4CF7-8760-B0AF2FE1F339@opensail.org> <20070113125711.GB16664@soaustin.net> <20070114033349.GB2734@kobe.laptop> <20070114104022.GC65886@abigail.blackend.org> <20070114104554.G24395@fledge.watson.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20070114104554.G24395@fledge.watson.org> X-Useless-Header: blackend.org X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.11-STABLE User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Cc: murray@FreeBSD.org, developers@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, Giorgos Keramidas , Mark Linimon , Wes Peters Subject: Re: Slides, papers, etc. X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2007 10:58:24 -0000 On Sun, Jan 14, 2007 at 10:47:09AM +0000, Robert Watson wrote: > > From the topic it sounds like we're interested in slides and papers. I > seem to have some combination online at the following URLs, and when I get > back from London this evening I'll flesh out the missing slides: > > http://www.watson.org/~robert/freebsd/2004asiabsdcon/ > http://www.watson.org/~robert/freebsd/2004bsdcan/ > http://www.watson.org/~robert/freebsd/2004eurobsdcon/ > http://www.watson.org/~robert/freebsd/2005eurobsdcon/ > http://www.watson.org/~robert/freebsd/2006bsdcan/ > http://www.watson.org/~robert/freebsd/2006eurobsdcon/ > http://www.watson.org/~robert/freebsd/2006ukuuglisa/ > Some of them, for example 20060512-bsdcan2006-how-freebsd-works.pdf, could be added to the http://www.freebsd.org/marketing/ page in the Presentations section, what do you think? -- Marc From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 14 11:08:40 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1BF216A407; Sun, 14 Jan 2007 11:08:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwatson@FreeBSD.org) Received: from cyrus.watson.org (cyrus.watson.org [209.31.154.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 271CD13C46A; Sun, 14 Jan 2007 11:08:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwatson@FreeBSD.org) Received: from fledge.watson.org (fledge.watson.org [209.31.154.41]) by cyrus.watson.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43F3B48E82; Sun, 14 Jan 2007 05:47:09 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2007 10:47:09 +0000 (GMT) From: Robert Watson X-X-Sender: robert@fledge.watson.org To: Marc Fonvieille In-Reply-To: <20070114104022.GC65886@abigail.blackend.org> Message-ID: <20070114104554.G24395@fledge.watson.org> References: <20061113225512.GD1634@kobe.laptop> <20061128232326.T95096@fledge.watson.org> <50FF9A98-DFE9-4CF7-8760-B0AF2FE1F339@opensail.org> <20070113132216.GA59518@abigail.blackend.org> <20061113153246.J38359@fledge.watson.org> <20061113225512.GD1634@kobe.laptop> <20061128232326.T95096@fledge.watson.org> <50FF9A98-DFE9-4CF7-8760-B0AF2FE1F339@opensail.org> <20070113125711.GB16664@soaustin.net> <20070114033349.GB2734@kobe.laptop> <20070114104022.GC65886@abigail.blackend.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: developers@freebsd.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org, Giorgos Keramidas , Mark Linimon , Wes Peters Subject: Re: Slides, papers, etc. X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2007 11:08:41 -0000 On Sun, 14 Jan 2007, Marc Fonvieille wrote: > On Sun, Jan 14, 2007 at 05:33:49AM +0200, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: >> On 2007-01-13 06:57, Mark Linimon wrote: >>> I know I'm too stupid to put a .pdf into the wiki. >>> How about the projects/ repository? >> >> I was initially toying around with the idea of an "advocacy" collection of >> presentations, and other material that developers and other interested >> people can use to promote FreeBSD. >> >> Some times, presentation material contains large "blobs" of stuff which is, >> essentially, not well suited for storing inside CVS though. For example, >> it's nice to have a collection of compressed PDF documents, but I'm not >> sure how well CVS can handle multiple copies, revisions and updates to >> these documents, without bloating the repository too much. >> >> On 2007-01-13 14:22, Marc Fonvieille wrote: >>> doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/slides already contains some presentations about >>> FreeBSD, it's possible to add more (and up to date) presentations. >> >> These are written with DocBook/XML-slides though. I haven't worked a lot >> with DocBook/slides, but the HTML output it generates is AFAICT very >> "plain". >> >> It is, nevertheless, extremely nice that the slides are in a readable, >> plain text format, which can be versioned, edited, reviewed, and >> distributed easily with CVS. We can leverage the existing network of CVSup >> servers to distribute copies of presentations stored in >> `doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/slides/'. We can integrate their build to our web >> site very easily. We can cross reference, index, and present these as part >> of out advocacy web site section. All these advantages are, at least for >> me, very important. >> >> Now, if we can find a nice way to attach a nicely designed, professional >> looking CSS stylesheet to these slide collections, that would be great! If >> we can also get someone who is experienced with DocBook/XML-slides to write >> up a short "Internationalization Cookbook for FreeBSD slides" tutorial, we >> would really have something going :) > > Maybe Murray can help a bit on this (Cced). I'm not against the fact we > also could use Beamer for some presentations with the advantage of a very > nice rendering, easy to learn, text source files, pdf rendering and > buildable with the current full docproj installation. On another hand I > know OOo can export files to DocBook but I don't know if it can be directly > useable in our DocBook/XML-slides environment. >From the topic it sounds like we're interested in slides and papers. I seem to have some combination online at the following URLs, and when I get back from London this evening I'll flesh out the missing slides: http://www.watson.org/~robert/freebsd/2004asiabsdcon/ http://www.watson.org/~robert/freebsd/2004bsdcan/ http://www.watson.org/~robert/freebsd/2004eurobsdcon/ http://www.watson.org/~robert/freebsd/2005eurobsdcon/ http://www.watson.org/~robert/freebsd/2006bsdcan/ http://www.watson.org/~robert/freebsd/2006eurobsdcon/ http://www.watson.org/~robert/freebsd/2006ukuuglisa/ Robert N M Watson Computer Laboratory University of Cambridge From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 14 11:11:12 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 224A916A412; Sun, 14 Jan 2007 11:11:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marc@blackend.org) Received: from postfix2-g20.free.fr (postfix2-g20.free.fr [212.27.60.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9521D13C468; Sun, 14 Jan 2007 11:11:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marc@blackend.org) Received: from smtp2-g19.free.fr (smtp2-g19.free.fr [212.27.42.28]) by postfix2-g20.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D40B8F3326; Sun, 14 Jan 2007 10:40:49 +0100 (CET) Received: from abigail.blackend.org (bgn92-3-82-227-222-164.fbx.proxad.net [82.227.222.164]) by smtp2-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EFCC7562; Sun, 14 Jan 2007 11:40:29 +0100 (CET) Received: from abigail.blackend.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by abigail.blackend.org (8.13.4/8.13.3) with ESMTP id l0EAeSOt073960; Sun, 14 Jan 2007 11:40:28 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from marc@abigail.blackend.org) Received: (from marc@localhost) by abigail.blackend.org (8.13.4/8.13.3/Submit) id l0EAeMJr073959; Sun, 14 Jan 2007 11:40:22 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from marc) Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2007 11:40:22 +0100 From: Marc Fonvieille To: Giorgos Keramidas Message-ID: <20070114104022.GC65886@abigail.blackend.org> Mail-Followup-To: Giorgos Keramidas , murray@FreeBSD.org, Wes Peters , Robert Watson , developers@freebsd.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, Mark Linimon References: <20061113225512.GD1634@kobe.laptop> <20061128232326.T95096@fledge.watson.org> <50FF9A98-DFE9-4CF7-8760-B0AF2FE1F339@opensail.org> <20070113132216.GA59518@abigail.blackend.org> <20061113153246.J38359@fledge.watson.org> <20061113225512.GD1634@kobe.laptop> <20061128232326.T95096@fledge.watson.org> <50FF9A98-DFE9-4CF7-8760-B0AF2FE1F339@opensail.org> <20070113125711.GB16664@soaustin.net> <20070114033349.GB2734@kobe.laptop> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20070114033349.GB2734@kobe.laptop> X-Useless-Header: blackend.org X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.11-STABLE User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Cc: developers@freebsd.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org, Robert Watson , Mark Linimon , Wes Peters Subject: Re: Slides, papers, etc. X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2007 11:11:12 -0000 On Sun, Jan 14, 2007 at 05:33:49AM +0200, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > On 2007-01-13 06:57, Mark Linimon wrote: > > I know I'm too stupid to put a .pdf into the wiki. > > How about the projects/ repository? > > I was initially toying around with the idea of an "advocacy" collection > of presentations, and other material that developers and other > interested people can use to promote FreeBSD. > > Some times, presentation material contains large "blobs" of stuff which > is, essentially, not well suited for storing inside CVS though. For > example, it's nice to have a collection of compressed PDF documents, but > I'm not sure how well CVS can handle multiple copies, revisions and > updates to these documents, without bloating the repository too much. > > On 2007-01-13 14:22, Marc Fonvieille wrote: > > doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/slides already contains some presentations about > > FreeBSD, it's possible to add more (and up to date) presentations. > > These are written with DocBook/XML-slides though. I haven't worked a > lot with DocBook/slides, but the HTML output it generates is AFAICT very > "plain". > > It is, nevertheless, extremely nice that the slides are in a readable, > plain text format, which can be versioned, edited, reviewed, and > distributed easily with CVS. We can leverage the existing network of > CVSup servers to distribute copies of presentations stored in > `doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/slides/'. We can integrate their build to our web > site very easily. We can cross reference, index, and present these as > part of out advocacy web site section. All these advantages are, at > least for me, very important. > > Now, if we can find a nice way to attach a nicely designed, professional > looking CSS stylesheet to these slide collections, that would be great! > If we can also get someone who is experienced with DocBook/XML-slides to > write up a short "Internationalization Cookbook for FreeBSD slides" > tutorial, we would really have something going :) > Maybe Murray can help a bit on this (Cced). I'm not against the fact we also could use Beamer for some presentations with the advantage of a very nice rendering, easy to learn, text source files, pdf rendering and buildable with the current full docproj installation. On another hand I know OOo can export files to DocBook but I don't know if it can be directly useable in our DocBook/XML-slides environment. > IMHO, this is something that should be discussed on freebsd-doc, so I've > taken the liberty to set Mail-Followup-To. > Re-set cause I see a Cc to freebsd-doc@kobe-laptop which sound weird here :) -- Marc From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 14 15:43:01 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B16C16A416 for ; Sun, 14 Jan 2007 15:43:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joseph.koshy@gmail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.168]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9AEE13C455 for ; Sun, 14 Jan 2007 15:43:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joseph.koshy@gmail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id o2so1025543uge for ; Sun, 14 Jan 2007 07:42:59 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=glB4vAkBdIm+4c3dbv6XDUKmx5+VMi9C7+IXGH1uNlE6DBBKwcqaRP1CLabpgpAVg5hbfALJakHFBJDyvRIr8zIQyb8Wv/T2hDQjHtzjW09PhSXSsvJVx8VvAj/TuSa8OwpvKdUgEnUBOYdlCwhphLKYAMiWNMi2buRP5Cuq400= Received: by 10.78.204.7 with SMTP id b7mr1900086hug.1168789379048; Sun, 14 Jan 2007 07:42:59 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.78.132.8 with HTTP; Sun, 14 Jan 2007 07:42:58 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <84dead720701140742j1c88b140ta649093ed97708c4@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2007 21:12:58 +0530 From: "Joseph Koshy" To: "Giorgos Keramidas" , freebsd-doc@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20070114104022.GC65886@abigail.blackend.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20070113132216.GA59518@abigail.blackend.org> <20061113153246.J38359@fledge.watson.org> <20061113225512.GD1634@kobe.laptop> <20061128232326.T95096@fledge.watson.org> <50FF9A98-DFE9-4CF7-8760-B0AF2FE1F339@opensail.org> <20070113125711.GB16664@soaustin.net> <20070114033349.GB2734@kobe.laptop> <20070114104022.GC65886@abigail.blackend.org> Cc: Subject: Re: Slides, papers, etc. X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2007 15:43:01 -0000 gk> I was initially toying around with the idea of an gk> "advocacy" collection of presentations, and other gk> material that developers and other interested people gk> can use to promote FreeBSD. FYI, I have one in Perforce: \title{Building Products with FreeBSD} \subtitle{Collaborating with an open-source project} http://perforce.freebsd.org/depotTreeBrowser.cgi?FSPC=//depot/user/jkoshy/projects/building-products/slideset This uses the LaTeX beamer package though, with figures in FIG and EPS format. -- FreeBSD Volunteer, http://people.freebsd.org/~jkoshy From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 14 15:45:04 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 488DA16A407 for ; Sun, 14 Jan 2007 15:45:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hrs@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mail.allbsd.org (vlsi00.si.noda.tus.ac.jp [133.31.130.32]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5646713C459 for ; Sun, 14 Jan 2007 15:45:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hrs@FreeBSD.org) Received: from delta.allbsd.org (p3089-ipbf506funabasi.chiba.ocn.ne.jp [124.100.58.89]) (authenticated bits=128) by mail.allbsd.org (8.13.1/8.13.4) with ESMTP id l0EFAZk1034185; Mon, 15 Jan 2007 00:10:48 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from hrs@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (alph.allbsd.org [192.168.0.10]) (authenticated bits=0) by delta.allbsd.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id l0EF9J9w007605; Mon, 15 Jan 2007 00:09:22 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from hrs@FreeBSD.org) Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 00:09:07 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <20070115.000907.32439009.hrs@allbsd.org> To: blackend@FreeBSD.org From: Hiroki Sato In-Reply-To: <20070114104022.GC65886@abigail.blackend.org> References: <20070113125711.GB16664@soaustin.net> <20070114033349.GB2734@kobe.laptop> <20070114104022.GC65886@abigail.blackend.org> X-PGPkey-fingerprint: BDB3 443F A5DD B3D0 A530 FFD7 4F2C D3D8 2793 CF2D X-Mailer: Mew version 5.1 on Emacs 21.3 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Multipart/Signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1; boundary="--Security_Multipart(Mon_Jan_15_00_09_08_2007_157)--" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.88.7, clamav-milter version 0.88.7 on gatekeeper.allbsd.org X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH authentication, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (mail.allbsd.org [133.31.130.32]); Mon, 15 Jan 2007 00:10:50 +0900 (JST) Cc: linimon@lonesome.com, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, rwatson@FreeBSD.org, keramida@FreeBSD.org, wes@opensail.org Subject: Re: Slides, papers, etc. X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2007 15:45:04 -0000 ----Security_Multipart(Mon_Jan_15_00_09_08_2007_157)-- Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Marc Fonvieille wrote in <20070114104022.GC65886@abigail.blackend.org>: bl> On Sun, Jan 14, 2007 at 05:33:49AM +0200, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: bl> > On 2007-01-13 06:57, Mark Linimon wrote: bl> > > I know I'm too stupid to put a .pdf into the wiki. bl> > > How about the projects/ repository? bl> > bl> > I was initially toying around with the idea of an "advocacy" collection bl> > of presentations, and other material that developers and other bl> > interested people can use to promote FreeBSD. bl> > bl> > Some times, presentation material contains large "blobs" of stuff which bl> > is, essentially, not well suited for storing inside CVS though. For bl> > example, it's nice to have a collection of compressed PDF documents, but bl> > I'm not sure how well CVS can handle multiple copies, revisions and bl> > updates to these documents, without bloating the repository too much. bl> > bl> > On 2007-01-13 14:22, Marc Fonvieille wrote: bl> > > doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/slides already contains some presentations about bl> > > FreeBSD, it's possible to add more (and up to date) presentations. bl> > bl> > These are written with DocBook/XML-slides though. I haven't worked a bl> > lot with DocBook/slides, but the HTML output it generates is AFAICT very bl> > "plain". bl> > bl> > It is, nevertheless, extremely nice that the slides are in a readable, bl> > plain text format, which can be versioned, edited, reviewed, and bl> > distributed easily with CVS. We can leverage the existing network of bl> > CVSup servers to distribute copies of presentations stored in bl> > `doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/slides/'. We can integrate their build to our web bl> > site very easily. We can cross reference, index, and present these as bl> > part of out advocacy web site section. All these advantages are, at bl> > least for me, very important. bl> > bl> > Now, if we can find a nice way to attach a nicely designed, professional bl> > looking CSS stylesheet to these slide collections, that would be great! bl> > If we can also get someone who is experienced with DocBook/XML-slides to bl> > write up a short "Internationalization Cookbook for FreeBSD slides" bl> > tutorial, we would really have something going :) bl> > bl> bl> Maybe Murray can help a bit on this (Cced). I'm not against the fact we bl> also could use Beamer for some presentations with the advantage of a bl> very nice rendering, easy to learn, text source files, pdf rendering and bl> buildable with the current full docproj installation. On another hand I bl> know OOo can export files to DocBook but I don't know if it can be bl> directly useable in our DocBook/XML-slides environment. Well, what do you think about simply importing FreeBSD-related presentation materials into the doc tree for the moment like OpenBSD project does? I often think we should have such a collection of presentations in our web site if possible, too, but often forget the URLs or get "404 not found" if I find them. I think we can store them into doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/slides in the original format and create the "collection of presentations" page. Converting them to another format is generally difficult and it is not a good idea to force the authors to use DocBook-slides or so. -- | Hiroki SATO ----Security_Multipart(Mon_Jan_15_00_09_08_2007_157)-- Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBFqkeUTyzT2CeTzy0RAoQYAKDeLxGVcE8W6fjU1+f2uvjyN/tssgCfUqMo cqy8SUEnkqR/k36/UuF7hOw= =DFwo -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ----Security_Multipart(Mon_Jan_15_00_09_08_2007_157)---- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 14 18:06:49 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEE6F16A47E; Sun, 14 Jan 2007 18:06:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from igloo.linux.gr (igloo.linux.gr [62.1.205.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3882A13C4BD; Sun, 14 Jan 2007 18:06:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from kobe.laptop (dialup85.ach.sch.gr [81.186.70.85]) (authenticated bits=128) by igloo.linux.gr (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id l0EHodoE001735 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Sun, 14 Jan 2007 19:50:47 +0200 Received: from kobe.laptop (kobe.laptop [127.0.0.1]) by kobe.laptop (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l0EHnTPS002359; Sun, 14 Jan 2007 19:49:59 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by kobe.laptop (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id l0EHnTwx002358; Sun, 14 Jan 2007 19:49:29 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2007 19:49:29 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Hiroki Sato Message-ID: <20070114174928.GD1667@kobe.laptop> References: <20070113125711.GB16664@soaustin.net> <20070114033349.GB2734@kobe.laptop> <20070114104022.GC65886@abigail.blackend.org> <20070115.000907.32439009.hrs@allbsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20070115.000907.32439009.hrs@allbsd.org> X-Hellug-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Hellug-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-3.727, required 5, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -1.80, AWL 0.47, BAYES_00 -2.60, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE 0.20) X-Hellug-MailScanner-From: keramida@ceid.upatras.gr X-Spam-Status: No Cc: linimon@lonesome.com, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, rwatson@FreeBSD.org, blackend@FreeBSD.org, wes@opensail.org Subject: Re: Slides, papers, etc. X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2007 18:06:49 -0000 On 2007-01-15 00:09, Hiroki Sato wrote: > bl> gker> Now, if we can find a nice way to attach a nicely designed, > bl> gker> professional looking CSS stylesheet to these slide > bl> gker> collections, that would be great! If we can also get > bl> gker> someone who is experienced with DocBook/XML-slides to write > bl> gker> up a short "Internationalization Cookbook for FreeBSD > bl> gker> slides" tutorial, we would really have something going :) > bl> gker> > bl> > bl> Maybe Murray can help a bit on this (Cced). I'm not against the > bl> fact we also could use Beamer for some presentations with the > bl> advantage of a very nice rendering, easy to learn, text source > bl> files, pdf rendering and buildable with the current full docproj > bl> installation. On another hand I know OOo can export files to > bl> DocBook but I don't know if it can be directly useable in our > bl> DocBook/XML-slides environment. > > Well, what do you think about simply importing FreeBSD-related > presentation materials into the doc tree for the moment like OpenBSD > project does? That's an excellent idea, and I would really like to see it happen. I was only worried that this would 'bloat' the CVS repository, if we started importing large collections of binary files. > I often think we should have such a collection of presentations in our > web site if possible, too, but often forget the URLs or get "404 not > found" if I find them. > > I think we can store them into doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/slides in the > original format and create the "collection of presentations" page. > Converting them to another format is generally difficult and it is > not a good idea to force the authors to use DocBook-slides or so. Agreed. "Forcing" people to convert existing material puts additional work on them, and it's not a good thing unless we have a sufficiently large set of benefits to gain from the conversion to DocBook/XML-slides. I am not sufficiently experienced with DocBook/slides to decide if the additional work is too much. If it is, we may as well bite the bullet and commit the originals into CVS "as is". From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 14 18:21:07 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9933616A407; Sun, 14 Jan 2007 18:21:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwatson@FreeBSD.org) Received: from cyrus.watson.org (cyrus.watson.org [209.31.154.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B69A13C455; Sun, 14 Jan 2007 18:21:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwatson@FreeBSD.org) Received: from fledge.watson.org (fledge.watson.org [209.31.154.41]) by cyrus.watson.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 236A247AFC; Sun, 14 Jan 2007 13:21:05 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2007 18:21:04 +0000 (GMT) From: Robert Watson X-X-Sender: robert@fledge.watson.org To: Hiroki Sato In-Reply-To: <20070115.000907.32439009.hrs@allbsd.org> Message-ID: <20070114181928.U24395@fledge.watson.org> References: <20070113125711.GB16664@soaustin.net> <20070114033349.GB2734@kobe.laptop> <20070114104022.GC65886@abigail.blackend.org> <20070115.000907.32439009.hrs@allbsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: linimon@lonesome.com, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, blackend@FreeBSD.org, wes@opensail.org, keramida@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Slides, papers, etc. X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2007 18:21:07 -0000 On Mon, 15 Jan 2007, Hiroki Sato wrote: > bl> Maybe Murray can help a bit on this (Cced). I'm not against the fact we > bl> also could use Beamer for some presentations with the advantage of a > bl> very nice rendering, easy to learn, text source files, pdf rendering and > bl> buildable with the current full docproj installation. On another hand I > bl> know OOo can export files to DocBook but I don't know if it can be > bl> directly useable in our DocBook/XML-slides environment. > > Well, what do you think about simply importing FreeBSD-related presentation > materials into the doc tree for the moment like OpenBSD project does? I > often think we should have such a collection of presentations in our web > site if possible, too, but often forget the URLs or get "404 not found" if I > find them. > > I think we can store them into doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/slides in the original > format and create the "collection of presentations" page. Converting them to > another format is generally difficult and it is not a good idea to force the > authors to use DocBook-slides or so. Requiring them to be converted to DocBook format is a good way to make sure no one ever submits any. :-) I'm happy to provide PDF slides for any and all presentations anyone can think to ask for them for. Robert N M Watson Computer Laboratory University of Cambridge From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 14 20:09:22 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5ACFC16A47E for ; Sun, 14 Jan 2007 20:09:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sziszi@bsd.hu) Received: from mail01a.mail.t-online.hu (mail01a.mail.t-online.hu [84.2.40.6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1362F13C469 for ; Sun, 14 Jan 2007 20:09:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sziszi@bsd.hu) Received: from baranyfelhocske.buza.adamsfamily.xx (catv5403428C.pool.t-online.hu [84.3.66.140]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail01a.mail.t-online.hu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 933963406A for ; Sun, 14 Jan 2007 20:50:21 +0100 (CET) Received: from baranyfelhocske.buza.adamsfamily.xx (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by baranyfelhocske.buza.adamsfamily.xx (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l0EJoK2D008003 for ; Sun, 14 Jan 2007 20:50:20 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from sziszi@bsd.hu) Received: (from sziszi@localhost) by baranyfelhocske.buza.adamsfamily.xx (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id l0EJoKHQ008002 for freebsd-doc@freebsd.org; Sun, 14 Jan 2007 20:50:20 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from sziszi@bsd.hu) X-Authentication-Warning: baranyfelhocske.buza.adamsfamily.xx: sziszi set sender to sziszi@bsd.hu using -f Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2007 20:50:20 +0100 From: Szilveszter Adam To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20070114195020.GA1222@baranyfelhocske.buza.adamsfamily.xx> Mail-Followup-To: Szilveszter Adam , freebsd-doc@freebsd.org References: <20070113125711.GB16664@soaustin.net> <20070114033349.GB2734@kobe.laptop> <20070114104022.GC65886@abigail.blackend.org> <20070115.000907.32439009.hrs@allbsd.org> <20070114174928.GD1667@kobe.laptop> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20070114174928.GD1667@kobe.laptop> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.13 (2006-08-11) Subject: Re: Slides, papers, etc. X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2007 20:09:22 -0000 On Sun, Jan 14, 2007 at 07:49:29PM +0200, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > On 2007-01-15 00:09, Hiroki Sato wrote: > > Well, what do you think about simply importing FreeBSD-related > > presentation materials into the doc tree for the moment like OpenBSD > > project does? > > That's an excellent idea, and I would really like to see it happen. > > I was only worried that this would 'bloat' the CVS repository, if we > started importing large collections of binary files. Well I think it is worth noting that most presentations in the OpenBSD tree are done with magicpoint and are converted to HTML, not PDF. So, I think we should adapt something similar, because HTML is a lot more "repo-friendly". It is not just CVS bloat, it is that each time someone wants to sync up the doc tree, they will have to transfer the large binary files anew if there is even a very small change. Not everyone is using a broadband connection. I for one have mirrored the www tree for more than two years through a modem dialup which was billed by the minute. (Luckily no longer so...) Just a remark. Otherwise, I am very much in favor of such a repository! -- Regards: Szilveszter ADAM Budapest Hungary From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 13 21:44:04 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 436CA16A403 for ; Sat, 13 Jan 2007 21:44:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from agivens@wi.rr.com) Received: from ms-smtp-04.rdc-kc.rr.com (ms-smtp-04.rdc-kc.rr.com [24.94.166.116]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0009813C459 for ; Sat, 13 Jan 2007 21:44:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from agivens@wi.rr.com) Received: from [192.168.1.102] (CPE-72-133-211-203.wi.res.rr.com [72.133.211.203]) by ms-smtp-04.rdc-kc.rr.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l0DL5G8Z021117 for ; Sat, 13 Jan 2007 15:05:17 -0600 (CST) From: User &anthony givens To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2007 03:03:58 -0600 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200701130303.58427.agivens@wi.rr.com> X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 00:29:29 +0000 Subject: Document not found - http://www.freebsd.org/releases/6.0r/hardware-i386.html X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2007 21:44:04 -0000 where can I find this document thank you From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 14 22:47:58 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7298416A40F for ; Sun, 14 Jan 2007 22:47:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from warping2@yahoo.com) Received: from web50002.mail.yahoo.com (web50002.mail.yahoo.com [206.190.38.17]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2589413C467 for ; Sun, 14 Jan 2007 22:47:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from warping2@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 21345 invoked by uid 60001); 14 Jan 2007 22:21:16 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=JTnETCaKyWFPbS7NZXI07QnaBqgnY1RKvviL0ucLaVi1D6d5jLiclKENHH6e2aM0/fwWxvvX77tcJhggzzdXvpGc+krL1NjHINj/fDBnU4vjy2FJg/Zdna+CL4BlYQWqbsVEfUao+rRxUYAZmNTjsR2aWcwZ+cmb3AiYHpxVKxE=; X-YMail-OSG: J8Vm8L0VM1mjtV97czYOtBA9io2Xy7irkia4HilSh65xUYGPgY4KiKIMQ_f5fmxAW1UwWQcVnJH8MEI2iskicxTIeMpri3dLuULdYO3gox4sh3MXrLRosQxM2wQiDaugoGhqIq.gKmKEFV8- Received: from [200.88.29.69] by web50002.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 14 Jan 2007 14:21:15 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/368.3 YahooMailWebService/0.6.132.7 Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2007 14:21:15 -0800 (PST) From: Ronald Gonzalez To: www@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <939957.20584.qm@web50002.mail.yahoo.com> X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 00:32:27 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: FreeBSD.org - Document not found X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2007 22:47:58 -0000 FreeBSD.org - Document not found=0AThe file=0Ahttp://www.freebsd.org/doc/es= _ES.ISO8859-1/articles/hubs/ =0Adoes not exist at this server.=0AYou are co= ming from=0Ahttp://www.freebsd.org/doc/es_ES.ISO8859-1/books/faq/introducti= on.html. =0AThe closest match to your request is http://www.FreeBSD.org. 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Kois From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 15 11:06:16 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: doc@hub.freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82AE916A412 for ; Mon, 15 Jan 2007 11:06:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [69.147.83.40]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6810613C44B for ; Mon, 15 Jan 2007 11:06:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (linimon@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id l0FB6GEY030745 for ; Mon, 15 Jan 2007 11:06:16 GMT (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from linimon@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id l0FB6FiY030741 for DOC; Mon, 15 Jan 2007 11:06:15 GMT (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org) Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 11:06:15 GMT Message-Id: <200701151106.l0FB6FiY030741@freefall.freebsd.org> X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: linimon set sender to owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org using -f From: FreeBSD bugmaster To: FreeBSD doc list Cc: Subject: Current unassigned doc problem reports X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 11:06:16 -0000 Current FreeBSD problem reports The following is a listing of current problems submitted by FreeBSD users. These represent problem reports covering all versions including experimental development code and obsolete releases. Bugs can be in one of several states: o - open A problem report has been submitted, no sanity checking performed. a - analyzed The problem is understood and a solution is being sought. f - feedback Further work requires additional information from the originator or the community - possibly confirmation of the effectiveness of a proposed solution. p - patched A patch has been committed, but some issues (MFC and / or confirmation from originator) are still open. r - repocopy The resolution of the problem report is dependent on a repocopy operation within the CVS repository which is awaiting completion. s - suspended The problem is not being worked on, due to lack of information or resources. This is a prime candidate for somebody who is looking for a project to do. If the problem cannot be solved at all, it will be closed, rather than suspended. c - closed A problem report is closed when any changes have been integrated, documented, and tested -- or when fixing the problem is abandoned. Critical problems Serious problems S Tracker Resp. Description -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- o docs/27605 doc [patch] Cross-document references () s docs/35678 doc docproj Makefiles for web are broken for paths with sp o docs/61605 doc [feature request] Improve documentation for i386 disk o docs/80843 doc [patch] psm(4): Suggested fix for psm0 / handle driver o docs/84932 doc new document: printing with an Epson ALC-3000N on Free o docs/98115 doc Missing parts after rendering handbook to RTF format o docs/106135 doc articles/vinum needs to be updated o docs/107378 doc [handbook] Handbook Installation chapter needs fixing 8 problems total. Non-critical problems S Tracker Resp. Description -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- s docs/20028 doc ASCII docs should reflect tags in the sourc o docs/24786 doc missing FILES descriptions in sa(4) o docs/26286 doc *printf(3) etc should gain format string warnings a docs/30008 doc [patch] French softupdates document should be translat s docs/33589 doc [patch] to doc.docbook.mk to post process .tex files. o docs/35222 doc [patch] getmsg.cgi: mailing list archive URL regexp su o docs/35608 doc mt(1) page uses "setmark" without explanation. o docs/35609 doc mt(1) page needs explanation of "long erase". o docs/35612 doc ps(1) page "state" description doesn't mention "spread o docs/35953 doc hosts.equiv(5) manual is confusing or wrong about host o docs/36432 doc Proposal for doc/share/mk: make folded books using psu o docs/36449 doc symlink(7) manual doesn't mention trailing slash, etc. o docs/38982 doc [patch] developers-handbook/Jail fix o docs/39348 doc diskless(8): note that kenv fetch of hostname requires o docs/39530 doc access(2) man page has unnecessarily broad warning o docs/40423 doc Keyboard(4)'s definition of parameters to GETFKEY/SETF o docs/41089 doc pax(1) -B option does not mention interaction with -z o docs/41807 doc [patch] natd(8): document natd -punch_fw "bug" o docs/43823 doc [PATCH] update to environ(7) manpage o docs/43941 doc document the Rationale for Upgrade Sequence (e.g. why o docs/44074 doc [patch] ln(1) manual clarifications o docs/46295 doc please add information to Nvi recovery email o docs/47594 doc [PATCH] passwd(5) incorrectly states allowed username o docs/47818 doc [patch] ln(1) manpage is confusing o docs/48101 doc [patch] add documentation on the fixit disk to the FAQ o docs/50211 doc [PATCH] doc.docbook.mk: fix textfile creation o docs/51891 doc DIAGNOSTICS in ed(4) driver manpage don't match realit o docs/52071 doc [PATCH] Add more information about soft updates into a o docs/53575 doc Change to Handbook Section 20.9 (SMTP Authentication) o docs/53596 doc Updates to mt(1) manual page s docs/55482 doc document the fact that DUMP has access to block device o docs/57388 doc [patch] INSTALL.TXT enhancement: mention ok prompt o docs/57926 doc [patch] amd.conf(5) poorly format as it has both man(7 o docs/59044 doc [patch] doc.docbook.mk does not properly handle a sour o docs/59477 doc Outdated Info Documents at http://docs.freebsd.org/inf o docs/59835 doc ipfw(8) man page does not warn about accepted but mean o docs/61070 doc handbook: Installation docs misleading: PResizer isn' o docs/61301 doc [patch] Manpage patch for aue(4) to enable HomePNA fun o docs/61667 doc Obsolete documentation on FreeBSD PnP o docs/62412 doc one of the diskless boot methods described in the Hand o docs/63215 doc Wrong prototypes in mi_switch(9) (ref docs/24311) o docs/64807 doc Handbook section on NAT incomplete o docs/65477 doc release notes: installation instruction fail to mentio o docs/66265 doc [patch] Document what -f and LD_TRACE_LOADED_OBJECTS_F o docs/66296 doc [patch] contrib/amd/amq/amq.8 uses log_options instead o docs/66483 doc [patch] share/man/man4/csa.4 grammar nits o docs/69861 doc [patch] usr.bin/csplit/csplit.1 does not document POSI o docs/70217 doc [patch] Suggested rewrite of docproj/sgml.sgml for cla o docs/73679 doc FreeBSD 5.3 Release notes mention new natd(8) function o docs/74612 doc [patch] updates to the glossary o docs/75865 doc comments on "backup-basics" in handbook o docs/75995 doc hcreate(3) documentation(?) bug o docs/76333 doc [patch] ferror(3): EOF indicator can be cleared by not o docs/78041 doc [patch] docs for md(4) need further explanation of typ o docs/78138 doc [patch] Error in pre-installation section of installat o docs/78240 doc [patch] handbook: replace with aroun o docs/78480 doc Networked printer setup unnecessarily complex in handb o docs/78915 doc rfork(2)'s RFTHREAD is not documented o docs/82595 doc 25.5.3 Configuring a bridge section of the handbook ne o docs/83621 doc [patch]: Minor omissions in /usr/src/UPDATING p docs/84101 doc [patch] mt(1) manpage has erroneous synopsis, etc. o docs/84154 doc Handbook somewhat off in use of /boot/kernel.old o docs/84265 doc [patch] chmod(1) manpage omits implication of setting p docs/84266 doc [patch] security(8) manpage should have init(8)'s list o docs/84267 doc [patch] chflags(1) manual doesn't say it's affected by o docs/84268 doc chmod(1) manpage's BUGS entry is either wrong or too c o docs/84317 doc fdp-primer doesn't show class=USERNAME distinctively o docs/84670 doc [patch] tput(1) manpage missing ENVIRONMENT section wi o docs/84806 doc mdoc(7) manpage has section ordering problems o docs/84956 doc [patch] intro(5) manpage doesn't mention API coverage o docs/85118 doc [PATCH] opiekey(1) references non-existing opiegen(1) o docs/85128 doc loader.conf(5) autoboot_delay incompletly described o docs/85187 doc [patch] find(1) manpage missing block info for -ls o docs/85243 doc Missing icmp related abbreviations for pf.conf(5) in i o docs/86342 doc bikeshed entry of Handbook is wrong o docs/87857 doc ifconfig(8) wireless options order matters o docs/87936 doc Handbook chapter on NIS/YP lacks good information on a o docs/88477 doc Possible addition to xl(4) manpage, Diagnostics sectio o docs/88512 doc [patch] mount_ext2fs(8) man page has no details on lar o docs/89325 doc [PATCH] Clarification of kbdmap(5), atkbd(4) and kbdco o docs/89492 doc vfs doc: some VOP_*(9) manual pages are outdated with o docs/91149 doc read(2) can return EINVAL for unaligned access to bloc o docs/91506 doc ndis(4) man page should be more specific about support o docs/92626 doc jail manpage should mention disabling some periodic sc o docs/93249 doc rewrite of handbook chapter 23 (PPP & SLIP) o docs/93363 doc Handbook 23.11. SMTP-Authentifizierung o docs/94125 doc DGE-530T doesn't work on FreeBSD v6.0 o docs/94625 doc [patch] growfs man page -- document "panic: not enough o docs/95139 doc FAQ to move filesystem to new disk fails: incorrect pe o docs/96207 doc Comments of a sockaddr_un structure could confuse one o docs/97939 doc some mistake in man of amq(8) o docs/98974 doc Missing tunables in loader(8) manpage o docs/99007 doc [patch] misleading nat configuration info o docs/99506 doc FreeBSD Handbook addition: IPv6 Server Settings o docs/99845 doc [patch] First introduce porttools to Porter's Handbook o docs/100196 doc man login.conf does explain not "unlimited" o docs/100242 doc sysctl(3) description of KERN_PROC is not correct anym o docs/101464 doc sync u_RU.KOI8-R/articles/portbuild/article.html with o docs/102148 doc The description of which Intel chips have EM64T is out o docs/102719 doc [patch] ng_bpf(4) example leads to unneeded promiscuos f docs/103730 doc [mail-archive]: duplicated file in mail archive o docs/104403 doc man security should mention that the usage of the X Wi o docs/104493 doc [patch] Wrong description in ntp.conf(5) (CURRENT and o docs/104879 doc Howto: Listen to IMA ADPCM .wav files on FreeBSD box o docs/105494 doc [PATCH] PH: rewrite WxWidgets entry o docs/105556 doc hosts.allow is available as a man-page o docs/105608 doc fdc(4) debugging description staled o docs/105620 doc new article: LDAP Authentication o docs/105997 doc sys/kern/sys_pipe.c refer to tuning(7), but there is n o docs/106416 doc man page, xargs option not documented o docs/106425 doc [PATCH] add a HARDWARE-section to ata(4) o docs/106617 doc Typo found in Spanish translation of FreeBSD handbook o docs/107426 doc obsolete info in fdp-primer o docs/107432 doc Handbook's default partitioning schema is out-of-date o docs/107578 doc [patch] uniq(1) should mention max line length o docs/107611 doc man syncookies should mention net.inet.tcp.syncookies_ p docs/107696 doc getsockopt(2) does not document SO_TIMESTAMP and SO_BI 117 problems total. From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 15 11:13:11 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 979A116A417 for ; Mon, 15 Jan 2007 11:13:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from www@FreeBSD.org) Received: from www.freebsd.org (www.freebsd.org [69.147.83.33]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7146613C4BD for ; Mon, 15 Jan 2007 11:13:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from www@FreeBSD.org) Received: from www.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www.freebsd.org (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id l0FBDB2Y011425 for ; Mon, 15 Jan 2007 11:13:11 GMT (envelope-from www@www.freebsd.org) Received: (from www@localhost) by www.freebsd.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id l0FBDBGd011423 for freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org; Mon, 15 Jan 2007 11:13:11 GMT (envelope-from www) Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 11:13:11 GMT From: World Wide Web Owner Message-Id: <200701151113.l0FBDBGd011423@www.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: FreeBSD web build failed on www.freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 11:13:11 -0000 *** Error code 1 (ignored) ===> ../fr/donations /usr/bin/sed -e 's///' index.sgml > index.sgml-tmp /usr/bin/env SGML_CATALOG_FILES= /usr/local/bin/sgmlnorm -d -ifreebsd.urls.absolute -c /usr/local/share/sgml/html/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/catalog -c /w/www/build/www/fr/share/sgml/catalog -c /w/www/build/www/share/sgml/catalog -D /w/www/build/www/fr/donations index.sgml-tmp > index.html || (/bin/rm -f index.sgml-tmp index.html && false) /bin/rm -f index.sgml-tmp /usr/local/bin/tidy -wrap 90 -m -raw -preserve -f /dev/null -asxml index.html *** Error code 1 (ignored) /usr/bin/sed -e 's///' wantlist.sgml > wantlist.sgml-tmp /usr/bin/env SGML_CATALOG_FILES= /usr/local/bin/sgmlnorm -d -ifreebsd.urls.absolute -c /usr/local/share/sgml/html/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/catalog -c /w/www/build/www/fr/share/sgml/catalog -c /w/www/build/www/share/sgml/catalog -D /w/www/build/www/fr/donations wantlist.sgml-tmp > wantlist.html || (/bin/rm -f wantlist.sgml-tmp wantlist.html && false) /bin/rm -f wantlist.sgml-tmp /usr/local/bin/tidy -wrap 90 -m -raw -preserve -f /dev/null -asxml wantlist.html *** Error code 1 (ignored) /usr/bin/sed -e 's///' donors.sgml > donors.sgml-tmp /usr/bin/env SGML_CATALOG_FILES= /usr/local/bin/sgmlnorm -d -ifreebsd.urls.absolute -c /usr/local/share/sgml/html/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/catalog -c /w/www/build/www/fr/share/sgml/catalog -c /w/www/build/www/share/sgml/catalog -D /w/www/build/www/fr/donations donors.sgml-tmp > donors.html || (/bin/rm -f donors.sgml-tmp donors.html && false) /bin/rm -f donors.sgml-tmp /usr/local/bin/tidy -wrap 90 -m -raw -preserve -f /dev/null -asxml donors.html *** Error code 1 (ignored) ===> ../fr/relnotes ===> relnotes/CURRENT/relnotes ===> relnotes/CURRENT/relnotes/alpha ===> relnotes/CURRENT/relnotes/i386 ===> relnotes/CURRENT/hardware ===> relnotes/CURRENT/hardware/alpha ===> relnotes/CURRENT/hardware/i386 ===> relnotes/CURRENT/hardware/pc98 ===> relnotes/CURRENT/hardware/sparc64 ===> relnotes/CURRENT/errata ===> relnotes/CURRENT/installation ===> relnotes/CURRENT/installation/alpha ===> relnotes/CURRENT/installation/i386 ===> relnotes/CURRENT/installation/pc98 ===> relnotes/CURRENT/installation/sparc64 ===> relnotes/CURRENT/early-adopter ===> relnotes/4-STABLE/relnotes ===> relnotes/4-STABLE/relnotes/alpha ===> relnotes/4-STABLE/relnotes/i386 ===> relnotes/4-STABLE/hardware ===> relnotes/4-STABLE/hardware/alpha ===> relnotes/4-STABLE/hardware/i386 ===> relnotes/4-STABLE/errata ===> relnotes/4-STABLE/installation ===> relnotes/4-STABLE/installation/alpha ===> relnotes/4-STABLE/installation/i386 *** Error code 1 (ignored) ===> ../ed cd: can't cd to /w/www/build/www/en/../ed *** Error code 2 Stop in /w/www/build/www/en. 379.45 real 61.49 user 34.17 sys From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 15 12:33:08 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: doc@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4ECB16A47C; Mon, 15 Jan 2007 12:33:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hrs@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mail.allbsd.org (vlsi00.si.noda.tus.ac.jp [133.31.130.32]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA8EC13C457; Mon, 15 Jan 2007 12:33:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hrs@FreeBSD.org) Received: from delta.allbsd.org (p3089-ipbf506funabasi.chiba.ocn.ne.jp [124.100.58.89]) (authenticated bits=128) by mail.allbsd.org (8.13.1/8.13.4) with ESMTP id l0FCWkBe063445; Mon, 15 Jan 2007 21:33:01 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from hrs@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (alph.allbsd.org [192.168.0.10]) (authenticated bits=0) by delta.allbsd.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id l0FCWQ2r014667; Mon, 15 Jan 2007 21:32:28 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from hrs@FreeBSD.org) Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 21:22:41 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <20070115.212241.00489018.hrs@allbsd.org> To: joel@FreeBSD.org From: Hiroki Sato In-Reply-To: <1168765723.1100.13.camel@jesus.automatvapen.se> References: <1168633900.1082.38.camel@jesus.automatvapen.se> <20070114.015751.59745560.hrs@allbsd.org> <1168765723.1100.13.camel@jesus.automatvapen.se> X-PGPkey-fingerprint: BDB3 443F A5DD B3D0 A530 FFD7 4F2C D3D8 2793 CF2D X-Mailer: Mew version 5.1 on Emacs 21.3 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Multipart/Signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1; boundary="--Security_Multipart(Mon_Jan_15_21_22_42_2007_247)--" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.88.7, clamav-milter version 0.88.7 on gatekeeper.allbsd.org X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH authentication, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (mail.allbsd.org [133.31.130.32]); Mon, 15 Jan 2007 21:33:02 +0900 (JST) Cc: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: RFC: The end of the contributors article X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 12:33:08 -0000 ----Security_Multipart(Mon_Jan_15_21_22_42_2007_247)-- Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Joel Dahl wrote in <1168765723.1100.13.camel@jesus.automatvapen.se>: jo> S=F6n 2007-01-14 klockan 01:57 +0900 skrev Hiroki Sato: jo> > Joel Dahl wrote jo> > in <1168633900.1082.38.camel@jesus.automatvapen.se>: jo> > jo> - This information does not really belong in an article. jo> > = jo> > Could you elaborate this? As mentioned in the previous mail, I = think jo> > this information should be in an independent database file, not jo> > belong in either article or an HTML page in the www tree. jo> = jo> Yes, I remember you suggesting this XX months ago, and I *really* l= ike jo> the concept of storing developer information (such as login id, pgp= key, jo> current hats, commit bit type, location etc) in a database, but the= jo> truth is that I haven't seen any progress since then. I consider m= y jo> work to be the best solution in the meantime. Sorry for my laziness... I think your work does not conflict with the= idea, and updating the list is really great regardless of which tree is used. What I wanted to know is if you intend to restructure the list by removing ones in the articles and maintaining a copy in the www tree on a long term basis (from your post I thought you wanted to do so). I am (still) planning to work on restructuring the list by using a directory, so I just think I will need more discussion if the plan conflicts with your idea. If your proposed patch is committed now, probably I will move the data part to a database in other than the www tree when my patch is ready---but I do not want to make you offended when I commit such a change. So, well, please go ahead if you do not mind it since updating the list is really important. But if you have another plan such as maintaining the list in an HTML page only, please elaborate the plan in more detail. Just I want to make sure. -- = | Hiroki SATO ----Security_Multipart(Mon_Jan_15_21_22_42_2007_247)-- Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBFq3ISTyzT2CeTzy0RApm2AJ45jWL6JAalKZn3MePi2F+ic5a+BQCfcKT0 rokSGrTmQiMMc+1nqHTgE5w= =et4W -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ----Security_Multipart(Mon_Jan_15_21_22_42_2007_247)---- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 15 13:10:17 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A754F16A40F for ; Mon, 15 Jan 2007 13:10:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [69.147.83.40]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8638E13C45E for ; Mon, 15 Jan 2007 13:10:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id l0FDAHKS043320 for ; Mon, 15 Jan 2007 13:10:17 GMT (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id l0FDAHJn043319; Mon, 15 Jan 2007 13:10:17 GMT (envelope-from gnats) Resent-Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 13:10:17 GMT Resent-Message-Id: <200701151310.l0FDAHJn043319@freefall.freebsd.org> Resent-From: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org (GNATS Filer) Resent-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Resent-Reply-To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org, Mads Eivind Eilertsen Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55EB616A40F for ; Mon, 15 Jan 2007 13:04:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nobody@FreeBSD.org) Received: from www.freebsd.org (www.freebsd.org [69.147.83.33]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E96313C428 for ; Mon, 15 Jan 2007 13:04:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nobody@FreeBSD.org) Received: from www.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www.freebsd.org (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id l0FD4GT3086179 for ; Mon, 15 Jan 2007 13:04:16 GMT (envelope-from nobody@www.freebsd.org) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by www.freebsd.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id l0FD4Gu9086178; Mon, 15 Jan 2007 13:04:16 GMT (envelope-from nobody) Message-Id: <200701151304.l0FD4Gu9086178@www.freebsd.org> Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 13:04:16 GMT From: Mads Eivind Eilertsen To: freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org X-Send-Pr-Version: www-3.0 Cc: Subject: docs/107950: Typo in freebsd-update.8, "If your block is set to UTC" X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 13:10:17 -0000 >Number: 107950 >Category: docs >Synopsis: Typo in freebsd-update.8, "If your block is set to UTC" >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Mon Jan 15 13:10:16 GMT 2007 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Mads Eivind Eilertsen >Release: 6.2-PRERELEASE >Organization: HiST >Environment: FreeBSD 6.2-PRERELEASE ... i386 >Description: freebsd-update.8,v 1.1.2.2 2006/12/31, TIPS section: "If your block is set to UTC, ..." I guess we're talking about the *clock*. :-) Mads >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 15 15:21:11 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: doc@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3ED8C16A407 for ; Mon, 15 Jan 2007 15:21:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrewb@poscomp.ca) Received: from fep2.cogeco.net (smtp1.cogeco.ca [216.221.81.28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17EE213C44B for ; Mon, 15 Jan 2007 15:21:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrewb@poscomp.ca) Received: from lars.poscomp.ca (d235-135-132.home1.cgocable.net [24.235.135.132]) by fep2.cogeco.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CB63142F8 for ; Mon, 15 Jan 2007 09:41:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from Sherman ([192.168.1.100]) by lars.poscomp.ca (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l0FEfJCM040238 for ; Mon, 15 Jan 2007 09:41:19 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from andrewb@poscomp.ca) From: "Andrew Bell" To: Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 09:41:17 -0500 Organization: Postech Computer Services Message-ID: <003901c738b3$36f425a0$6401a8c0@poscomp.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Thread-Index: Acc4szazu0zwPciyQm2SiNFLYsafTQ== X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.88.7/2451/Mon Jan 15 05:27:30 2007 on lars.poscomp.ca X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: Subject: Broken link in "FreeBSD on Laptops" X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 15:21:11 -0000 I'm not sure if this is the correct way to report documentation bugs. If not, could you please enlighten me? The document <$FreeBSD: doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/laptop/article.sgml,v 1.24 2006/08/29 07:38:22 blackend Exp $> refers to a laptop compatibility list at http://gerda.univie.ac.at/freebsd-laptops/. This site now returns what appears to be a 404 page in German. Sorry, but I wasn't able to find the new location of the list. Regards, Andrew From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 15 15:30:47 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFB0A16A40F; Mon, 15 Jan 2007 15:30:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from maxim@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [69.147.83.40]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2C4913C45D; Mon, 15 Jan 2007 15:30:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from maxim@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (maxim@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id l0FFUlB6053719; Mon, 15 Jan 2007 15:30:47 GMT (envelope-from maxim@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from maxim@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id l0FFUlR3053714; Mon, 15 Jan 2007 15:30:47 GMT (envelope-from maxim) Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 15:30:47 GMT From: Maxim Konovalov Message-Id: <200701151530.l0FFUlR3053714@freefall.freebsd.org> To: mads.e.eilertsen@hist.no, maxim@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: Re: docs/107950: Typo in freebsd-update.8, "If your block is set to UTC" X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 15:30:47 -0000 Synopsis: Typo in freebsd-update.8, "If your block is set to UTC" State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: maxim State-Changed-When: Mon Jan 15 15:30:31 UTC 2007 State-Changed-Why: Already fixed. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=107950 From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 15 15:56:41 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: doc@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2ADC716A416; Mon, 15 Jan 2007 15:56:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joel@FreeBSD.org) Received: from av9-1-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (av9-1-sn3.vrr.skanova.net [81.228.9.185]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B472213C457; Mon, 15 Jan 2007 15:56:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joel@FreeBSD.org) Received: by av9-1-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (Postfix, from userid 502) id 5C4E9384D1; Mon, 15 Jan 2007 16:56:39 +0100 (CET) Received: from smtp3-1-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (smtp3-1-sn3.vrr.skanova.net [81.228.9.101]) by av9-1-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FD1938417; Mon, 15 Jan 2007 16:56:38 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.1.199] (81-234-214-163-no68.tbcn.telia.com [81.234.214.163]) by smtp3-1-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA21B37E46; Mon, 15 Jan 2007 16:56:38 +0100 (CET) From: Joel Dahl To: Hiroki Sato In-Reply-To: <20070115.212241.00489018.hrs@allbsd.org> References: <1168633900.1082.38.camel@jesus.automatvapen.se> <20070114.015751.59745560.hrs@allbsd.org> <1168765723.1100.13.camel@jesus.automatvapen.se> <20070115.212241.00489018.hrs@allbsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso8859-1 Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 16:56:01 +0100 Message-Id: <1168876561.1102.17.camel@jesus.automatvapen.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.8.2.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: RFC: The end of the contributors article X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 15:56:41 -0000 Mċn 2007-01-15 klockan 21:22 +0900 skrev Hiroki Sato: > Joel Dahl wrote > in <1168765723.1100.13.camel@jesus.automatvapen.se>: > > jo> Sön 2007-01-14 klockan 01:57 +0900 skrev Hiroki Sato: > jo> > Joel Dahl wrote > jo> > in <1168633900.1082.38.camel@jesus.automatvapen.se>: > jo> > jo> - This information does not really belong in an article. > jo> > > jo> > Could you elaborate this? As mentioned in the previous mail, I think > jo> > this information should be in an independent database file, not > jo> > belong in either article or an HTML page in the www tree. > jo> > jo> Yes, I remember you suggesting this XX months ago, and I *really* like > jo> the concept of storing developer information (such as login id, pgpkey, > jo> current hats, commit bit type, location etc) in a database, but the > jo> truth is that I haven't seen any progress since then. I consider my > jo> work to be the best solution in the meantime. > > Sorry for my laziness... I think your work does not conflict with the > idea, and updating the list is really great regardless of which tree > is used. > > What I wanted to know is if you intend to restructure the list by > removing ones in the articles and maintaining a copy in the www tree > on a long term basis (from your post I thought you wanted to do so). > I am (still) planning to work on restructuring the list by using a > directory, so I just think I will need more discussion if the plan > conflicts with your idea. If your proposed patch is committed now, > probably I will move the data part to a database in other than the > www tree when my patch is ready---but I do not want to make you > offended when I commit such a change. > > So, well, please go ahead if you do not mind it since updating the > list is really important. But if you have another plan such as > maintaining the list in an HTML page only, please elaborate the plan > in more detail. Just I want to make sure. I'm perfectly happy with a database and I don't think our plans conflict with each other. I want to improve the way we present the actual data to our visitors, by updating and adding more content, and do some restructuring (for example by moving it to www, which seems to be a more natural place for this information). What you want to do is implementing a way to store the actual data in order for us to easily access it from doc/www, which also would reduce the maintenance cost significantly. With such a database in place, I think it would be quite easy to convert my work to take advantage it. Maintaining it in plain HTML is a PITA, and I'd like to avoid that if possible, of course. :-) -- Joel From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 15 23:27:07 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A2B616A416; Mon, 15 Jan 2007 23:27:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [69.147.83.40]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 221D913C465; Mon, 15 Jan 2007 23:27:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (keramida@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id l0FNR6Uf093724; Mon, 15 Jan 2007 23:27:07 GMT (envelope-from keramida@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id l0FNR6xM093720; Mon, 15 Jan 2007 23:27:06 GMT (envelope-from keramida) Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 23:27:06 GMT From: Giorgos Keramidas Message-Id: <200701152327.l0FNR6xM093720@freefall.freebsd.org> To: jschauma@netmeister.org, keramida@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, keramida@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: Re: docs/107578: [patch] uniq(1) should mention max line length X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 23:27:07 -0000 Synopsis: [patch] uniq(1) should mention max line length State-Changed-From-To: open->patched State-Changed-By: keramida State-Changed-When: Mon Jan 15 23:26:03 UTC 2007 State-Changed-Why: Nice catch. I've committed a slightly shorter version of the text, inspired from nl(1) and other utilities. Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->keramida Responsible-Changed-By: keramida Responsible-Changed-When: Mon Jan 15 23:26:03 UTC 2007 Responsible-Changed-Why: I'll handle the MFC for this. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=107578 From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 15 23:36:45 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DEDA16A417; Mon, 15 Jan 2007 23:36:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [69.147.83.40]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7F3813C467; Mon, 15 Jan 2007 23:36:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (keramida@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id l0FNaiDM095599; Mon, 15 Jan 2007 23:36:44 GMT (envelope-from keramida@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id l0FNaiH7095595; Mon, 15 Jan 2007 23:36:44 GMT (envelope-from keramida) Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 23:36:44 GMT From: Giorgos Keramidas Message-Id: <200701152336.l0FNaiH7095595@freefall.freebsd.org> To: hydrapolic@gmail.com, keramida@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, keramida@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: Re: docs/107426: obsolete info in fdp-primer X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 23:36:45 -0000 Synopsis: obsolete info in fdp-primer State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: keramida State-Changed-When: Mon Jan 15 23:30:30 UTC 2007 State-Changed-Why: I removed the relevant . The text was false, so it doesn't help displaying it online. Thanks for the heads up :) The new version of the chapter should appear online after the next scheduled and successful web rebuild; usually less than 24-hours. Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->keramida Responsible-Changed-By: keramida Responsible-Changed-When: Mon Jan 15 23:30:30 UTC 2007 Responsible-Changed-Why: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=107426 From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 15 23:37:46 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F45216A412; Mon, 15 Jan 2007 23:37:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [69.147.83.40]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E84E413C468; Mon, 15 Jan 2007 23:37:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (keramida@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id l0FNbjFm095666; Mon, 15 Jan 2007 23:37:45 GMT (envelope-from keramida@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id l0FNbjuN095662; Mon, 15 Jan 2007 23:37:45 GMT (envelope-from keramida) Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 23:37:45 GMT From: Giorgos Keramidas Message-Id: <200701152337.l0FNbjuN095662@freefall.freebsd.org> To: keramida@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, keramida@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: Re: docs/105556: hosts.allow is available as a man-page X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 23:37:46 -0000 Synopsis: hosts.allow is available as a man-page Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->keramida Responsible-Changed-By: keramida Responsible-Changed-When: Mon Jan 15 23:37:33 UTC 2007 Responsible-Changed-Why: I'll take care of this. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=105556 From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 15 23:40:37 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F6D716A416; Mon, 15 Jan 2007 23:40:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [69.147.83.40]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 396F713C45B; Mon, 15 Jan 2007 23:40:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (keramida@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id l0FNebaD095902; Mon, 15 Jan 2007 23:40:37 GMT (envelope-from keramida@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id l0FNebfU095898; Mon, 15 Jan 2007 23:40:37 GMT (envelope-from keramida) Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 23:40:37 GMT From: Giorgos Keramidas Message-Id: <200701152340.l0FNebfU095898@freefall.freebsd.org> To: keramida@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, keramida@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: Re: docs/106416: man page, xargs option not documented X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 23:40:37 -0000 Synopsis: man page, xargs option not documented Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->keramida Responsible-Changed-By: keramida Responsible-Changed-When: Mon Jan 15 23:40:22 UTC 2007 Responsible-Changed-Why: I'll handle this. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=106416 From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 15 23:45:01 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D5F916A412; 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Tue, 16 Jan 2007 00:39:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jschauma@netmeister.org) Received: from netmeister.org (netmeister.org [64.81.58.47]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5918913C4C4; Tue, 16 Jan 2007 00:39:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jschauma@netmeister.org) Received: by netmeister.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 2BBE5816A3; Mon, 15 Jan 2007 16:01:59 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 16:01:59 -0800 From: Jan Schaumann To: Giorgos Keramidas Message-ID: <20070116000159.GA15290@netmeister.org> References: <200701152327.l0FNR6xM093720@freefall.freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="/04w6evG8XlLl3ft" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200701152327.l0FNR6xM093720@freefall.freebsd.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.13 (2006-08-11) Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/107578: [patch] uniq(1) should mention max line length X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 00:39:10 -0000 --/04w6evG8XlLl3ft Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > Synopsis: [patch] uniq(1) should mention max line length >=20 > State-Changed-From-To: open->patched > State-Changed-By: keramida > State-Changed-When: Mon Jan 15 23:26:03 UTC 2007 > State-Changed-Why:=20 > Nice catch. I've committed a slightly shorter version of > the text, inspired from nl(1) and other utilities. Actually, you may wish to take a look at Christos Zoulas's change to NetBSD's uniq(1) to remove the restriction on line-length altogether: http://cvsweb.netbsd.org/bsdweb.cgi/src/usr.bin/uniq/uniq.c.diff?r1=3D1.12&= r2=3D1.13 -Jan --=20 If there's anything more important than my ego around here, I want it caught and shot now! --/04w6evG8XlLl3ft Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (NetBSD) iD8DBQFFrBX3fFtkr68iakwRAsoZAJ0RevndBfJBLn09EUfYHg2926QGDwCfeanh EZq6us2b9DT8pU4YCMqAoFY= =Tz7y -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --/04w6evG8XlLl3ft-- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 16 04:03:25 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: doc@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B532216A407 for ; Tue, 16 Jan 2007 04:03:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from root@parse.com) Received: from amd64.ott.parse.com (ottawa-hs-206-191-28-202.s-ip.magma.ca [206.191.28.202]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65FB413C45B for ; Tue, 16 Jan 2007 04:03:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from root@parse.com) Received: from amd64.ott.parse.com (localhost.parse.com [127.0.0.1]) by amd64.ott.parse.com (8.13.4/8.13.1) with ESMTP id l0G3ZgCO021113 for ; Mon, 15 Jan 2007 22:35:42 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from root@parse.com) Received: (from root@localhost) by amd64.ott.parse.com (8.13.4/8.13.1/Submit) id l0G3ZgCA021111 for doc@freebsd.org; Mon, 15 Jan 2007 22:35:42 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from root) From: Robert Krten Message-Id: <200701160335.l0G3ZgCA021111@amd64.ott.parse.com> To: doc@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 22:35:42 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL6] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: FreeBSD Handbook, Chapter 8, something's missing... X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 04:03:25 -0000 The latest version (http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/kernelconfig-building.html) sez: You must now compile the source code for the kernel. There are two procedures you can use to do this, and the one you will use depends on why you are rebuilding the kernel and the version of FreeBSD that you are running. * If you have installed only the kernel source code, use procedure 1. * If you are building a new kernel without updating the source code (perhaps just to add a new option, such as IPFIREWALL) you can use either procedure. * If you are rebuilding the kernel as part of a make buildworld process, use procedure 2. But alas, there is no "procedure 1" nor "procedure 2" (that I could find). I recall there used to be, but I guess that got edited out at some point... Later on, it goes on to mention the other (deleted) procedure: ...then it is safe to use the config, make depend, make, make install sequence. Cheers, -RK -- Robert Krten, PARSE Software Devices, http://www.parse.com/resume.html Wanted: DEC minis: http://www.parse.com/~museum/admin/wanted.html From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 16 11:16:17 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BC0416A415 for ; Tue, 16 Jan 2007 11:16:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from murray.stokely@gmail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.175]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B175D13C442 for ; Tue, 16 Jan 2007 11:16:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from murray.stokely@gmail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id o2so1494831uge for ; Tue, 16 Jan 2007 03:16:16 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=Vdv7jbGX4oI+cJ4+yJ+AEtg1qcQMJ0sRopUEdTKBlmaMvuDClSz05qqA+NMRt6x5zs6ywaoyyKRpo46DrEpQiplxGQWEPYEQ8T934yzHLmivWYLywCUXnoaKz/HnB8BPcgFSQnH6DV2xwZ/Q7C8RBCXq+sbUkwhVbbqxEUYuJ/w= Received: by 10.82.138.6 with SMTP id l6mr886974bud.1168945260499; Tue, 16 Jan 2007 03:01:00 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.82.108.20 with HTTP; Tue, 16 Jan 2007 03:01:00 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <474078f80701160301n1c768fc3pff2d9188dd33f7f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 03:01:00 -0800 From: "Murray Stokely" To: "Giorgos Keramidas" , murray@freebsd.org, "Wes Peters" , "Robert Watson" , developers@freebsd.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org, "Mark Linimon" In-Reply-To: <20070114104022.GC65886@abigail.blackend.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20070113132216.GA59518@abigail.blackend.org> <20061113153246.J38359@fledge.watson.org> <20061113225512.GD1634@kobe.laptop> <20061128232326.T95096@fledge.watson.org> <50FF9A98-DFE9-4CF7-8760-B0AF2FE1F339@opensail.org> <20070113125711.GB16664@soaustin.net> <20070114033349.GB2734@kobe.laptop> <20070114104022.GC65886@abigail.blackend.org> Cc: Subject: Re: Slides, papers, etc. X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 11:16:17 -0000 On 1/14/07, Marc Fonvieille wrote: > Maybe Murray can help a bit on this (Cced). I'm not against the fact we > also could use Beamer for some presentations with the advantage of a > very nice rendering, easy to learn, text source files, pdf rendering and > buildable with the current full docproj installation. On another hand I > know OOo can export files to DocBook but I don't know if it can be > directly useable in our DocBook/XML-slides environment. The current status of the slides/ work in doc/ is that you need to use a commercial XSL-FO processor to create nice looking PDFs. With enough work you can create something that looks roughly as good as Robert's red/orange OpenOffice slides or others that I have seen floating around. I think the more promising approach however is to convert DocBook directly into OpenOffice or Apple Keynote. Both have quite reasonable XML formats that allow you to define the contents of the presentation in one XML file and use a separately defined template to create it. Most of the work in creating the DocBook slides infrastructure involved working on PDF stylesheets. If you have robust enough OpenOffice support then you don't need to worry about style at all and can just use Robert's pre-existing one, or my old BSDi derived daemon one, or any other stylesheet to deal with where actually to display the header and what kind of background image to display, etc. To address a later point in this thread, having a central repository for slides in native formats sounds reasonable to me. I'd very much like to see the XML slides framework finished eventually as I really do think it is 90% there and just needs more people working on the stylesheets. - Murray From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 16 12:00:05 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: doc@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DBD216A492 for ; Tue, 16 Jan 2007 12:00:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joel@FreeBSD.org) Received: from av9-2-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (av9-2-sn3.vrr.skanova.net [81.228.9.186]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9618913C45D for ; Tue, 16 Jan 2007 12:00:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joel@FreeBSD.org) Received: by av9-2-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (Postfix, from userid 502) id BC87D38201; Tue, 16 Jan 2007 13:00:03 +0100 (CET) Received: from smtp3-1-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (smtp3-1-sn3.vrr.skanova.net [81.228.9.101]) by av9-2-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6997382FE for ; Tue, 16 Jan 2007 13:00:03 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.1.199] (81-234-214-163-no68.tbcn.telia.com [81.234.214.163]) by smtp3-1-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9653F37E42 for ; Tue, 16 Jan 2007 13:00:03 +0100 (CET) From: Joel Dahl To: doc@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <1168562996.1100.42.camel@jesus.automatvapen.se> References: <1168562996.1100.42.camel@jesus.automatvapen.se> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 13:00:02 +0100 Message-Id: <1168948802.1333.23.camel@jesus.automatvapen.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.8.2.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: [UPDATE] RFC: The end of the contributors article X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 12:00:05 -0000 Fre 2007-01-12 klockan 01:49 +0100 skrev Joel Dahl: > Today I decided to finally do what I've been planning to do for a long > time: move stuff out of the contributors article and instead place it > under www/. I've just uploaded the latest version to: http://people.freebsd.org/~joel/wii/team.html SGML source is here: http://people.freebsd.org/~joel/wii/team.sgml There are still some parts that needs more work/discussion though: 1. What should the title be? Right now it says "FreeBSD project management and teams" but I don't really like that. Suggestions? 2. I'm not sure about the "Teams" category. Maybe we should name that something else? Something more descriptive would be nice. 3. I need descriptions for the following teams/hats (around 40-80 words): - Marketing Team - Portmgr Secretary (rewin promised to fix ths one) - Security Secretary (remko promised to fix this one) - Accounts Team - Backup Administrators - Bugmeisters & GNATS administrators - Cluster Administrators - CVS Source Repository Managers - CVSup Mirror Site Coordinators - DNS Administrators - FTP/WWW Mirror Site Coordinators - Perforce Source Repository Managers - Postmaster Team - Ref Administrators 4. Introduction needed. Should contain something about how we elect teams and team members, a few words about our organizational structure and how to contact teams etc. 5. Extending the core team description would be nice. I just copied the text from the contributors article, but it's pretty weak imho. 6. Where should we place it? I'd like to avoid a major bikeshed when I'm about to commit it, so we might as well decide this right away. "About" or "Developers" seems most natural to me. 7. Comments, suggestions & feedback much appreciated. -- Joel From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 16 12:42:50 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: doc@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21C3616A40F for ; Tue, 16 Jan 2007 12:42:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from niclas.zeising@gmail.com) Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com (wr-out-0506.google.com [64.233.184.233]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D897513C471 for ; Tue, 16 Jan 2007 12:42:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from niclas.zeising@gmail.com) Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id 36so1313159wra for ; Tue, 16 Jan 2007 04:42:44 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=QAgYfXfV//xFInsOEIHCdCMeycUxuvfTJqS02cHM/zqfG8C45uGoaOASDi6xU3nnVpzDqmNhvuPJmgZNK86VrF7vmY7V9LNBFjgxXbO+qE3RcWvUr3IdnQaSKZIKpuegHCx9j247wfO5UL7SyGwdWps/DFWZsfwl7xT3bM4/pBM= Received: by 10.82.113.6 with SMTP id l6mr1056534buc.1168951362484; Tue, 16 Jan 2007 04:42:42 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.78.29.12 with HTTP; Tue, 16 Jan 2007 04:42:41 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 13:42:41 +0100 From: "Niclas Zeising" To: "Joel Dahl" In-Reply-To: <1168948802.1333.23.camel@jesus.automatvapen.se> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <1168562996.1100.42.camel@jesus.automatvapen.se> <1168948802.1333.23.camel@jesus.automatvapen.se> Cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [UPDATE] RFC: The end of the contributors article X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 12:42:50 -0000 On 1/16/07, Joel Dahl wrote: > Fre 2007-01-12 klockan 01:49 +0100 skrev Joel Dahl: > > Today I decided to finally do what I've been planning to do for a long > > time: move stuff out of the contributors article and instead place it > > under www/. > > I've just uploaded the latest version to: > http://people.freebsd.org/~joel/wii/team.html > > SGML source is here: > http://people.freebsd.org/~joel/wii/team.sgml Great work! > > There are still some parts that needs more work/discussion though: > > 1. What should the title be? Right now it says "FreeBSD project > management and teams" but I don't really like that. Suggestions? Why not just FreeBSD project management or someting? And then maybe some explanation at the top about how the FreeBSD project management works, with all hats, teams etc. and then you have the explanations of each team. Just a thought. > > 2. I'm not sure about the "Teams" category. Maybe we should name > that something else? Something more descriptive would be nice. > [SNIP] > > 4. Introduction needed. Should contain something about how we > elect teams and team members, a few words about our organizational > structure and how to contact teams etc. Sounds resonable. See above. [SNIP] > > 6. Where should we place it? I'd like to avoid a major bikeshed when > I'm about to commit it, so we might as well decide this right away. > "About" or "Developers" seems most natural to me. I don't know exactly where, but i agree on your suggestions. It's propably good if we put it somewhere where it's easy to find, so you know who to contact in case you need to, even if you're not a committer or anything. > > 7. Comments, suggestions & feedback much appreciated. Great work! Regards! //Niclas From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 16 12:53:54 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: doc@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02A2616A40F for ; Tue, 16 Jan 2007 12:53:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from infofarmer@gmail.com) Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com (wr-out-0506.google.com [64.233.184.231]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B732213C45D for ; Tue, 16 Jan 2007 12:53:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from infofarmer@gmail.com) Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id 36so1316783wra for ; Tue, 16 Jan 2007 04:53:52 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=Gf3k5NbHwOe8TnCMc7AuVtvBcmgtISVe++vQzpQ6YS2/sSSoPAK3Fo2jcFZ5s3PHNpf0rqIfWyerVRXsdL1RI6lailyVof3CBAaaUSRSU7ZCro4aB7laPR1GbAPP7oiZzZyW2iQRjM4FHFyH5P6ighkdMx3hVvjAtd4/tWmdeCQ= Received: by 10.82.153.5 with SMTP id a5mr1066631bue.1168952031584; Tue, 16 Jan 2007 04:53:51 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.78.164.20 with HTTP; Tue, 16 Jan 2007 04:53:51 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 15:53:51 +0300 From: "Andrew Pantyukhin" Sender: infofarmer@gmail.com To: "Giorgos Keramidas" In-Reply-To: <20070116124248.GF2166@kobe.laptop> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20070116080048.GD38661@kaiser.sig11.org> <20070116124248.GF2166@kobe.laptop> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 4792592b73424a0b Cc: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Can I add a news item for FreeSBIE-2.0? X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 12:53:54 -0000 On 1/16/07, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > On 2007-01-16 09:00, Matteo Riondato wrote: > > Hi folks, > > as you may know (and you probably do, as I spammed some freebsd-* > > ML's), FreeSBIE-2.0-RELEASE was released yesterday.(full announce: > > http://ftp.freesbie.org/2.0-RELEASE/FreeSBIE-2.0-RELEASE-announce.txt) > > > > I don't know whether this is the correct place to ask, but may I add a > > news item for FreeSBIE? > > Absolutely! ...meaning you should add the item. As for the place to ask, this kind of questions is expected on doc@ and/or www@ From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 16 12:54:06 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C92C516A417 for ; Tue, 16 Jan 2007 12:54:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@freebsd.org) Received: from igloo.linux.gr (igloo.linux.gr [62.1.205.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30E5913C45B for ; Tue, 16 Jan 2007 12:54:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@freebsd.org) Received: from kobe.laptop (host5.bedc.ondsl.gr [62.103.39.229]) (authenticated bits=128) by igloo.linux.gr (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id l0GCh3d1018557 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Tue, 16 Jan 2007 14:43:11 +0200 Received: from kobe.laptop (kobe.laptop [127.0.0.1]) by kobe.laptop (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l0GCcngb002672; Tue, 16 Jan 2007 14:39:02 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@freebsd.org) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by kobe.laptop (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id l0GCcnYp002671; Tue, 16 Jan 2007 14:38:49 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@freebsd.org) Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 14:38:49 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Jan Schaumann Message-ID: <20070116123848.GE2166@kobe.laptop> References: <200701152327.l0FNR6xM093720@freefall.freebsd.org> <20070116000159.GA15290@netmeister.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20070116000159.GA15290@netmeister.org> X-Hellug-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Hellug-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-3.743, required 5, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -1.80, AWL 0.66, BAYES_00 -2.60) X-Hellug-MailScanner-From: keramida@freebsd.org X-Spam-Status: No Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/107578: [patch] uniq(1) should mention max line length X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 12:54:06 -0000 On 2007-01-15 16:01, Jan Schaumann wrote: > Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > > Synopsis: [patch] uniq(1) should mention max line length > > State-Changed-From-To: open->patched > > State-Changed-By: keramida > > State-Changed-When: Mon Jan 15 23:26:03 UTC 2007 > > State-Changed-Why: > > Nice catch. I've committed a slightly shorter version of > > the text, inspired from nl(1) and other utilities. > > Actually, you may wish to take a look at Christos Zoulas's change to > NetBSD's uniq(1) to remove the restriction on line-length altogether: > http://cvsweb.netbsd.org/bsdweb.cgi/src/usr.bin/uniq/uniq.c.diff?r1=1.12&r2=1.13 Thanks for the pointer. I'll keep the PR in patched state, and try to merge the NetBSD uniq(1) changes with our version :-) From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 16 13:06:10 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: doc@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5115116A412 for ; Tue, 16 Jan 2007 13:06:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from infofarmer@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.190]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDA5313C469 for ; Tue, 16 Jan 2007 13:06:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from infofarmer@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id k27so2376155nfc for ; Tue, 16 Jan 2007 05:06:08 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=ZtJtPO3zDDTDmrsh9cVKVQSO3trZE6gmIffaT019wxAuBl3eLUUSGXyKDQf/skS809XmVt2Wq/2tWpuOQxAPc8qEVoanh4ClGSfvsyc24uV2UCGfX2FVhA4E47PEFXnvGNVkF/iMPBTAHtHsgToHgW4TMi79tXWuNaTskEhP2FM= Received: by 10.82.153.5 with SMTP id a5mr1074217bue.1168952767660; Tue, 16 Jan 2007 05:06:07 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.78.164.20 with HTTP; Tue, 16 Jan 2007 05:06:07 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 16:06:07 +0300 From: "Andrew Pantyukhin" Sender: infofarmer@gmail.com To: "Joel Dahl" In-Reply-To: <1168948802.1333.23.camel@jesus.automatvapen.se> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <1168562996.1100.42.camel@jesus.automatvapen.se> <1168948802.1333.23.camel@jesus.automatvapen.se> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 6f88495ad2db0cf1 Cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [UPDATE] RFC: The end of the contributors article X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 13:06:10 -0000 On 1/16/07, Joel Dahl wrote: > 7. Comments, suggestions & feedback much appreciated. First of all, a big thanks to you! a. I would go with either or than . We sometimes use the latter syntax, but it's neither correct nor very beautiful. Considering all the e-mail addresses are already available for harvesting, displaying their complete forms everywhere would only be helpful for copy-paste purposes. b. I wonder if you plan to move out the rest of the stuff from the contributors article. I for one would appreciate it very much, I often have to go there to look up names and/or e-mail addresses. Thank you Joel! From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 16 13:34:09 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: doc@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55EA716A412; Tue, 16 Jan 2007 13:34:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joel@FreeBSD.org) Received: from av7-1-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (av7-1-sn3.vrr.skanova.net [81.228.9.181]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1998B13C455; Tue, 16 Jan 2007 13:34:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joel@FreeBSD.org) Received: by av7-1-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (Postfix, from userid 502) id 52EC137E99; Tue, 16 Jan 2007 14:33:43 +0100 (CET) Received: from smtp3-2-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (smtp3-2-sn3.vrr.skanova.net [81.228.9.102]) by av7-1-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42FB337E56; Tue, 16 Jan 2007 14:33:43 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.1.199] (81-234-214-163-no68.tbcn.telia.com [81.234.214.163]) by smtp3-2-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BACBB37E42; Tue, 16 Jan 2007 14:34:07 +0100 (CET) From: Joel Dahl To: Andrew Pantyukhin In-Reply-To: References: <1168562996.1100.42.camel@jesus.automatvapen.se> <1168948802.1333.23.camel@jesus.automatvapen.se> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 14:34:06 +0100 Message-Id: <1168954446.1333.36.camel@jesus.automatvapen.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.8.2.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [UPDATE] RFC: The end of the contributors article X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 13:34:09 -0000 Tis 2007-01-16 klockan 16:06 +0300 skrev Andrew Pantyukhin: > On 1/16/07, Joel Dahl wrote: > > 7. Comments, suggestions & feedback much appreciated. > > b. I wonder if you plan to move out the rest of the stuff > from the contributors article. I for one would appreciate it > very much, I often have to go there to look up names and/or > e-mail addresses. Yes, that's the plan. The donations stuff belongs on the donations www page, and for the developer lists I'd like to create something similar to what Gentoo has (excluding the away system and the area of responsibility stuff): http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/devrel/roll-call/userinfo.xml Collecting all this stuff in one place would really make maintenance less painful, especially if hrs implements a database containing developer info. -- Joel From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 16 13:41:08 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: doc@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BC3416A40F for ; Tue, 16 Jan 2007 13:41:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joel@FreeBSD.org) Received: from av6-1-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (av6-1-sn3.vrr.skanova.net [81.228.9.179]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61CC413C441 for ; Tue, 16 Jan 2007 13:41:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joel@FreeBSD.org) Received: by av6-1-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (Postfix, from userid 502) id 6A79337E5A; Tue, 16 Jan 2007 14:41:07 +0100 (CET) Received: from smtp3-2-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (smtp3-2-sn3.vrr.skanova.net [81.228.9.102]) by av6-1-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59CB437E4F for ; Tue, 16 Jan 2007 14:41:07 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.1.199] (81-234-214-163-no68.tbcn.telia.com [81.234.214.163]) by smtp3-2-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 410F837E4E for ; Tue, 16 Jan 2007 14:41:07 +0100 (CET) From: Joel Dahl To: doc@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <1168948802.1333.23.camel@jesus.automatvapen.se> References: <1168562996.1100.42.camel@jesus.automatvapen.se> <1168948802.1333.23.camel@jesus.automatvapen.se> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 14:41:05 +0100 Message-Id: <1168954865.1333.39.camel@jesus.automatvapen.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.8.2.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: [UPDATE] RFC: The end of the contributors article X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 13:41:08 -0000 Tis 2007-01-16 klockan 13:00 +0100 skrev Joel Dahl: > Fre 2007-01-12 klockan 01:49 +0100 skrev Joel Dahl: > > Today I decided to finally do what I've been planning to do for a long > > time: move stuff out of the contributors article and instead place it > > under www/. > > 3. I need descriptions for the following teams/hats (around 40-80 > words): > - Marketing Team > - Portmgr Secretary (rewin promised to fix ths one) ^^^^^ erwin of course... -- Joel From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 16 15:13:51 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EC9516A407 for ; Tue, 16 Jan 2007 15:13:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sneezycrazyturtle@gmail.com) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.247]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3BA413C459 for ; Tue, 16 Jan 2007 15:13:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sneezycrazyturtle@gmail.com) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id c24so1031512ana for ; Tue, 16 Jan 2007 07:13:50 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=W7Zcgiso9a0zI5Bc4EkqaKh5qvUCa22QtttddcvjvNONTQ9DY3qHmDu5oJbnqCpQY4DfTD/wp01XnNTa2WLFJIQ0/EgqHfpdyS2/FuiY3x/jUhkxu8txfF8C9YX2Uh4HWU4+NwPLh0cGFTxVSNsqdSr18gLe3eRib0iwMHD9jrU= Received: by 10.65.59.20 with SMTP id m20mr7910317qbk.1168958697235; Tue, 16 Jan 2007 06:44:57 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.148.13 with HTTP; Tue, 16 Jan 2007 06:44:57 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <75cd2a440701160644w113d7abfl20194e3a6cc7d204@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 17:44:57 +0300 From: "Ata ur Rehman Alvi" To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: NEED HELP X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 15:13:51 -0000 HELLO I AM A NEWBIE FOR UNIX PLATEFORM, AND I DONT KNOW ABOUT FTP DOWNLOADING IDEA. WOULD U TELL ME HOW TO DOWNLOAD FREE BSD UNIX AND HOW TO INSTALL, I AM HAVING NO RESPONSE WHEN I TRY TO DOWNLOAD. AND IN DOCUMENTATION I CANT FIND MUCH HELP THANKS ALOT -- SNEEZYCRAZYTURTLE From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 16 17:53:52 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: doc@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BCB216A40F; Tue, 16 Jan 2007 17:53:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from niclas.zeising@gmail.com) Received: from pne-smtpout1-sn1.fre.skanova.net (pne-smtpout1-sn1.fre.skanova.net [81.228.11.98]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C28B113C448; Tue, 16 Jan 2007 17:53:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from niclas.zeising@gmail.com) Received: from [81.232.22.182] (81.232.22.182) by pne-smtpout1-sn1.fre.skanova.net (7.2.076.2) id 45ACC84200016E94; Tue, 16 Jan 2007 18:53:50 +0100 Message-ID: <45AD1125.3080005@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 18:53:41 +0100 From: Niclas Zeising User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Joel Dahl References: <1168562996.1100.42.camel@jesus.automatvapen.se> <1168948802.1333.23.camel@jesus.automatvapen.se> <1168954446.1333.36.camel@jesus.automatvapen.se> In-Reply-To: <1168954446.1333.36.camel@jesus.automatvapen.se> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Andrew Pantyukhin , doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [UPDATE] RFC: The end of the contributors article X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 17:53:52 -0000 Joel Dahl wrote: > Tis 2007-01-16 klockan 16:06 +0300 skrev Andrew Pantyukhin: >> On 1/16/07, Joel Dahl wrote: >>> 7. Comments, suggestions & feedback much appreciated. >> b. I wonder if you plan to move out the rest of the stuff >> from the contributors article. I for one would appreciate it >> very much, I often have to go there to look up names and/or >> e-mail addresses. > > Yes, that's the plan. The donations stuff belongs on the donations www > page, and for the developer lists I'd like to create something similar > to what Gentoo has (excluding the away system and the area of > responsibility stuff): > http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/devrel/roll-call/userinfo.xml I like the idea of doing something similar. It looked kind of good on the gentoo page. Maybe we should have some sort of "areas of responsibility" where appropriate, at least so people know who to contact if they need help? Just a thought (as always) > > Collecting all this stuff in one place would really make maintenance > less painful, especially if hrs implements a database containing > developer info. > Propably. //Niclas From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 16 19:20:38 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: doc@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E096316A5AE; Tue, 16 Jan 2007 19:20:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from trhodes@FreeBSD.org) Received: from chipmunk.ai.net (axe.ai.net [205.134.161.26]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96CB513C442; Tue, 16 Jan 2007 19:20:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from trhodes@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (ip70-177-190-239.dc.dc.cox.net [70.177.190.239]) by chipmunk.ai.net (8.13.4/8.13.4) with SMTP id l0GJKj32074748; Tue, 16 Jan 2007 14:20:45 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from trhodes@FreeBSD.org) Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 14:20:28 -0500 From: Tom Rhodes To: Joel Dahl Message-Id: <20070116142028.69561fcc.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <1168948802.1333.23.camel@jesus.automatvapen.se> References: <1168562996.1100.42.camel@jesus.automatvapen.se> <1168948802.1333.23.camel@jesus.automatvapen.se> Organization: The FreeBSD Project X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 1.0.6 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: rwatson@FreeBSD.org, doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: [UPDATE] RFC: The end of the contributors article X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 19:20:39 -0000 On Tue, 16 Jan 2007 13:00:02 +0100 Joel Dahl wrote: > Fre 2007-01-12 klockan 01:49 +0100 skrev Joel Dahl: > > Today I decided to finally do what I've been planning to do for a long > > time: move stuff out of the contributors article and instead place it > > under www/. > > I've just uploaded the latest version to: > http://people.freebsd.org/~joel/wii/team.html > > SGML source is here: > http://people.freebsd.org/~joel/wii/team.sgml > > There are still some parts that needs more work/discussion though: > > 1. What should the title be? Right now it says "FreeBSD project > management and teams" but I don't really like that. Suggestions? FreeBSD Project managers perhaps? Specific FreeBSD management groups? The gatekeepers?? ;) > > 2. I'm not sure about the "Teams" category. Maybe we should name > that something else? Something more descriptive would be nice. Managers? > > 3. I need descriptions for the following teams/hats (around 40-80 > words): > - Marketing Team The group of people who oversee FreeBSD's marketing aspect. ... Why not just ask some of these people for descriptions. Some of these are also really easy: > - Portmgr Secretary (rewin promised to fix ths one) > - Security Secretary (remko promised to fix this one) > - Accounts Team We create accounts. > - Backup Administrators We backs up your data. > - Bugmeisters & GNATS administrators > - Cluster Administrators > - CVS Source Repository Managers We handle repo-copies, and fix CVS when you break it. > - CVSup Mirror Site Coordinators > - DNS Administrators We run DNS! YAY BIND! > - FTP/WWW Mirror Site Coordinators > - Perforce Source Repository Managers > - Postmaster Team We make sure most of the email you send goes where it should, we also try to ensure your spam count is low. Sometimes we lose a message, but it's ok because ten US dollars says it wasn't important anyway. :P Oh, wait, that's how I run the mail server at work, scratch that. > - Ref Administrators > > 4. Introduction needed. Should contain something about how we > elect teams and team members, a few words about our organizational > structure and how to contact teams etc. I think Robert Watson's presentation at BSDCan 2006 has several descriptions you can borrow. (CC:ed) > > 5. Extending the core team description would be nice. I just copied > the text from the contributors article, but it's pretty weak imho. Well, what does the core team do? Ask yourself, what have you seen them deal with? Most recent was syncing of the license(s). > > 6. Where should we place it? I'd like to avoid a major bikeshed when > I'm about to commit it, so we might as well decide this right away. > "About" or "Developers" seems most natural to me. Let's put it back in the article! /me ducks > > 7. Comments, suggestions & feedback much appreciated. > I really hope this didn't come off as rude, I think you've done a fabulous job thus far. Perhaps we can just put the page in our main www/en directory, and perhaps link it from the developers link? By the way, are you planning to convert the "list of developers" and "list of contributors," etc? -- Tom Rhodes From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 16 20:23:19 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 952C416A407 for ; Tue, 16 Jan 2007 20:23:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from markus@brueffer.de) Received: from mail-in-12.arcor-online.net (mail-in-12.arcor-online.net [151.189.21.52]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 534B413C469 for ; Tue, 16 Jan 2007 20:23:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from markus@brueffer.de) Received: from mail-in-01-z2.arcor-online.net (mail-in-06-z2.arcor-online.net [151.189.8.18]) by mail-in-12.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED00C542A6; Tue, 16 Jan 2007 18:10:39 +0100 (CET) Received: from mail-in-03.arcor-online.net (mail-in-03.arcor-online.net [151.189.21.43]) by mail-in-01-z2.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1313C39EB; Tue, 16 Jan 2007 18:10:39 +0100 (CET) Received: from ramses.kicks-ass.net (dslb-084-061-051-065.pools.arcor-ip.net [84.61.51.65]) by mail-in-03.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C427E30A91D; Tue, 16 Jan 2007 18:10:39 +0100 (CET) Received: from cheops.phoenix (cheops.phoenix [192.168.1.3]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ramses.kicks-ass.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D42BB80A; Tue, 16 Jan 2007 18:10:42 +0100 (CET) From: Markus Brueffer To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 18:10:24 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.5 References: <003901c738b3$36f425a0$6401a8c0@poscomp.ca> In-Reply-To: <003901c738b3$36f425a0$6401a8c0@poscomp.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart2416378.SNSSKbdIRN"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200701161810.35248.markus@brueffer.de> Cc: Andrew Bell Subject: Re: Broken link in "FreeBSD on Laptops" X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 20:23:19 -0000 --nextPart2416378.SNSSKbdIRN Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Monday 15 January 2007 15:41, Andrew Bell wrote: > I'm not sure if this is the correct way to report documentation bugs. If > not, could you please enlighten me? > > The document <$FreeBSD: doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/laptop/article.sgml,v > 1.24 2006/08/29 07:38:22 blackend Exp $> refers to a laptop compatibility > list at http://gerda.univie.ac.at/freebsd-laptops/. This site now returns > what appears to be a 404 page in German. The new location is http://laptop.bsdgroup.de/freebsd Cheers, Markus =2D-=20 Markus Brueffer =A0 =A0| GPG-Key: http://people.FreeBSD.org/~markus/markus.= asc markus@brueffer.de | FP: 3F9B EBE8 F290 E5CC 1447 8760 D48D 1072 78F8 A8D4 markus@FreeBSD.org | FreeBSD: The Power to Serve! --nextPart2416378.SNSSKbdIRN Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBFrQcL1I0Qcnj4qNQRAuT/AKCmUA3amEz9fYZ5G5s/xMBJGV+nMgCdHJxk lAkDGqZ3xLbXpmwWddat5rI= =8zmw -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart2416378.SNSSKbdIRN-- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 16 15:47:38 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58B9516A40F for ; Tue, 16 Jan 2007 15:47:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ata.alvi@giant-stores.com) Received: from fe-ims2.awalnet.net.sa (fe-ims2.awalnet.net.sa [212.93.192.37]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81A3E13C469 for ; Tue, 16 Jan 2007 15:47:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ata.alvi@giant-stores.com) Received: from giant-stores.com ([212.93.200.243]) by fe-ims2.awalnet.net.sa (AwalNet Mail Server) with ESMTP id <0JBY004WPUBZQN@fe-ims2.awalnet.net.sa> for freebsd-doc@freebsd.org; Tue, 16 Jan 2007 17:47:33 +0300 (GMT) Received: from ([172.17.1.243]) by mailgateway.giant-stores.com with SMTP id 99-CBF17.3905811; Tue, 16 Jan 2007 17:47:27 +0300 Received: from unknown(131.0.1.20) by e250.giant-stores.com via csmap id 15187; Tue, 16 Jan 2007 17:40:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gsemailserver.aqrabia.giant-stores.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Tue, 16 Jan 2007 17:36:08 +0300 Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 17:36:06 +0300 From: Ata Rehman Alvi To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Message-id: <775E3DCB084DE74DB21CFB2179DE0590112BC5@gsemailserver.aqrabia.giant-stores.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 22:17:14 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: NEED HELP X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 15:47:38 -0000 HELLO I AM A NEWBIE FOR UNIX PLATEFORM, AND I DONT KNOW ABOUT FTP DOWNLOADING IDEA. WOULD U TELL ME HOW TO DOWNLOAD FREE BSD UNIX AND HOW TO INSTALL, I AM HAVING NO RESPONSE WHEN I TRY TO DOWNLOAD. AND IN DOCUMENTATION I CANT FIND MUCH HELP THANKS ALOT -- SNEEZYCRAZYTURTLE This email has been scanned for Viruses by Giant Stores McAfee e250. From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 16 22:22:13 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: doc@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30F6B16A417 for ; Tue, 16 Jan 2007 22:22:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alex@nixpcd.ru) Received: from mail.majordomo.ru (mail.majordomo.ru [81.177.16.8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E42B613C45A for ; Tue, 16 Jan 2007 22:22:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alex@nixpcd.ru) Received: from [91.122.21.10] (helo=P-III-933) by mail.majordomo.ru with esmtpa (Exim 4.50) id 1H6w0S-000H71-I3 for doc@FreeBSD.org; Wed, 17 Jan 2007 00:38:12 +0300 Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2007 00:28:10 +0300 From: =?windows-1251?B?wOvl6vHg7eTwIMDq7uTz8Q==?= X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.80.06) Professional Organization: NIXPCD.ru Team X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <158060751.20070117002810@nixpcd.ru> To: doc@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: ask to add a vendor in the Retailers' list X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: =?windows-1251?B?wOvl6vHg7eTwIMDq7uTz8Q==?= List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 22:22:13 -0000 Hello! I'd like to ask you to add the online store I present (NIXPCD.ru) to the list of the online retailers, published here: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/mirrors.html NIXPCD.ru is a well-known in Russia and Russian-speaking Internet-community as a vendor of wide range open-source products. We always offer CD and DVD-disks with up-to-date FreeBSD OS, packages for FreeBSD and we think of distributing distfiles for FreeBSD. So we would be pleased to be helpful for you as a retailer of your products. Some info about us: Store name: Nixpcd.ru Store URL: http://www.nixpcd.ru FreeBSD page: http://www.nixpcd.ru/sect/freebsd Contact Name: Dmitry Ivanov Postal Mailing address: p/o box 116, 190000 St.Petersburg Post Office, St.Petersburg, Russia Email address: cdrom@nixpcd.ru -- Regards, Alex L.Akodus (alex@nixpcd.ru) NIXPCD.ru Team 16.01.2007, 22:30 From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 16 22:39:12 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE1C816A416 for ; Tue, 16 Jan 2007 22:39:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@bsdly.net) Received: from skapet.datadok.no (skapet.datadok.no [194.54.107.19]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88C1313C44C for ; Tue, 16 Jan 2007 22:39:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@bsdly.net) Received: from thingy.bsdly.net ([10.168.103.11] helo=thingy.datadok.no.bsdly.net ident=peter) by skapet.datadok.no with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1H6wxT-0000d5-EY; Tue, 16 Jan 2007 23:39:11 +0100 To: Ata Rehman Alvi References: <775E3DCB084DE74DB21CFB2179DE0590112BC5@gsemailserver.aqrabia.giant-stores.com> From: peter@bsdly.net (Peter N. M. Hansteen) Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 23:39:07 +0100 In-Reply-To: <775E3DCB084DE74DB21CFB2179DE0590112BC5@gsemailserver.aqrabia.giant-stores.com> (Ata Rehman Alvi's message of "Tue, 16 Jan 2007 17:36:06 +0300") Message-ID: <871wlufvg4.fsf@thingy.datadok.no> User-Agent: Gnus/5.1007 (Gnus v5.10.7) XEmacs/21.4.19 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: NEED HELP X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 22:39:12 -0000 Ata Rehman Alvi writes: > I AM A NEWBIE FOR UNIX PLATEFORM, AND I DONT KNOW ABOUT FTP DOWNLOADING > IDEA. WOULD U TELL ME HOW TO DOWNLOAD FREE BSD UNIX AND HOW TO INSTALL, I AM > HAVING NO RESPONSE WHEN I TRY TO DOWNLOAD. AND IN DOCUMENTATION I CANT FIND > MUCH HELP >From the headers in your message I am guessing you are located in Saudi Arabia. Unfortunately the Saudi Arabian mirror site listed at http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/mirrors-ftp.html appears not to contain any FreeBSD material, but that page contains both ftp and http links to sites where you can download useful FreeBSD material, including of course all files needed to install the system. The best advice i can give is to see if you can find a mirror site which gives reasonable download speeds to where you are, browse the handbook and perhaps check the freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list for clarifications and installation advice. Good luck, -- Peter N. M. Hansteen, member of the first RFC 1149 implementation team http://www.blug.linux.no/rfc1149/ http://www.datadok.no/ http://www.nuug.no/ "First, we kill all the spammers" The Usenet Bard, "Twice-forwarded tales" delilah spamd[29949]: 85.152.224.147: disconnected after 42673 seconds. From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 17 01:52:54 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7DB216A412 for ; Wed, 17 Jan 2007 01:52:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from thompsa@freebsd.org) Received: from heff.fud.org.nz (203-109-251-39.static.bliink.ihug.co.nz [203.109.251.39]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E88113C45D for ; Wed, 17 Jan 2007 01:52:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from thompsa@freebsd.org) Received: by heff.fud.org.nz (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 5A0181CC52; Wed, 17 Jan 2007 14:39:43 +1300 (NZDT) Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2007 14:39:43 +1300 From: Andrew Thompson To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20070117013943.GD12548@heff.fud.org.nz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.13 (2006-08-11) Subject: bridging X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2007 01:52:54 -0000 Hi, I am looking some someone to either write or help me write an updated bridge section for the handbook. Is anyone interested? cheers, Andrew From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 17 10:00:39 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC56F16A415 for ; Wed, 17 Jan 2007 10:00:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [69.147.83.40]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD6E213C441 for ; Wed, 17 Jan 2007 10:00:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id l0HA0dx4085253 for ; Wed, 17 Jan 2007 10:00:39 GMT (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id l0HA0d0a085252; Wed, 17 Jan 2007 10:00:39 GMT (envelope-from gnats) Resent-Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2007 10:00:39 GMT Resent-Message-Id: <200701171000.l0HA0d0a085252@freefall.freebsd.org> Resent-From: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org (GNATS Filer) Resent-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Resent-Reply-To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org, "Andrei V. Lavreniyuk" Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0DB616A40F for ; Wed, 17 Jan 2007 09:59:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nobody@FreeBSD.org) Received: from www.freebsd.org (www.freebsd.org [69.147.83.33]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D25C913C45A for ; Wed, 17 Jan 2007 09:59:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nobody@FreeBSD.org) Received: from www.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www.freebsd.org (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id l0H9x4ks047951 for ; Wed, 17 Jan 2007 09:59:04 GMT (envelope-from nobody@www.freebsd.org) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by www.freebsd.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id l0H9x4Q2047950; Wed, 17 Jan 2007 09:59:04 GMT (envelope-from nobody) Message-Id: <200701170959.l0H9x4Q2047950@www.freebsd.org> Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2007 09:59:04 GMT From: "Andrei V. Lavreniyuk" To: freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org X-Send-Pr-Version: www-3.0 Cc: Subject: docs/108030: ERROR make doc (6.2-STABLE) X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2007 10:00:40 -0000 >Number: 108030 >Category: docs >Synopsis: ERROR make doc (6.2-STABLE) >Confidential: no >Severity: serious >Priority: high >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Wed Jan 17 10:00:39 GMT 2007 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Andrei V. Lavreniyuk >Release: 6.2-STABLE >Organization: Technica-03, Inc. >Environment: FreeBSD datacenter.technica-03.local 6.2-STABLE FreeBSD 6.2-STABLE #0: Tue Jan 16 14:55:27 EET 2007 root@datacenter.technica-03.local:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/SMP-DATACENTER i386 >Description: /bin/rm -f /usr/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/share/sgml/mirrors.xml.sort /usr/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/share/sgml/mirrors.xml.sort.tmp echo '' > /usr/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/autogen.ent env SGML_CATALOG_FILES= XML_CATALOG_FILES="file:///usr/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/catalog-cwd.xml file:///usr/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/share/sgml/catalog.xml file:///usr/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/share/sgml/catalog.xml file:///usr/doc/share/sgml/catalog.xml file:///usr/doc/share/sgml/catalog-common.xml file:///usr/www/./share/sgml/catalog.xml file:///usr/www/share/sgml/catalog.xml file:///usr/www/share/sgml/catalog-common.xml file:///usr/local/share/xml/catalog" /usr/local/bin/xsltproc --nonet -o mirrors.sgml.ftp.inc.tmp My src,ports and doc update from cvs 17.01.2007 Error compile /usr/doc ... ---------------------------------- --param 'type' "'ftp'" --param 'proto' "'ftp'" --param 'target' "'handbook/mirrors/chapter.sgml'" --param transtable.xml "'/usr/doc/share/sgml/transtable.xml'" /usr/doc/share/sgml/mirrors-local.xsl /usr/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/share/sgml/mirrors.xml runtime error: file /usr/doc/share/sgml/mirrors-master.xsl line 97 element choose Variable 'mirrors-docbook-country-index-without-period' has not been declared. *** Error code 10 Stop in /usr/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/doc. --------------------------------------------- >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 17 17:44:01 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: doc@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B23BD16A412 for ; Wed, 17 Jan 2007 17:44:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dienst@marcrenearns.de) Received: from mo-p00-ob.rzone.de (mo-p00-ob.rzone.de [81.169.146.162]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1081913C457 for ; Wed, 17 Jan 2007 17:44:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dienst@marcrenearns.de) Received: from rarns-ws.mdc-intern.de (www.mdc-intern.de [195.145.7.218]) by post.webmailer.de (mrclete mo53) (RZmta 3.11) with ESMTP id j0HEtSHk002d1E; Wed, 17 Jan 2007 18:32:27 +0100 (MET) Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2007 18:32:27 +0100 (MET) From: Marc =?iso-8859-1?q?Ren=E9_Arns?= To: doc@freebsd.org User-Agent: KMail/1.9.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200701171832.28368.dienst@marcrenearns.de> X-RZG-AUTH: hu4yiKry5uz+38eJEnF8Z/DRw5uK8w== Cc: Subject: make buildkernel fails without complete source tree X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2007 17:44:02 -0000 Dear documentation team as opposed to the process meantioned here: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/kernelconfig-building.html it is not sufficious to have the kernel sources to build a kernel with # cd /usr/src # make buildkernel KERNCONF=GENERIC This results in the message # make: don't know how to make buildkernel. Stop The reason is that the Makefile in /usr/src is missing when getting the kernel sources via sysinstall. Tested with 6.2 release. Even if it is a bug I think that as long as it is this way it should be reflected in the handbook. Thank you for your great work! Regards, Benny From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 17 18:25:27 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: doc@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95D7016A4C2 for ; Wed, 17 Jan 2007 18:25:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joel@FreeBSD.org) Received: from av11-1-sn2.hy.skanova.net (av11-1-sn2.hy.skanova.net [81.228.8.183]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5282D13C442 for ; Wed, 17 Jan 2007 18:25:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joel@FreeBSD.org) Received: by av11-1-sn2.hy.skanova.net (Postfix, from userid 502) id 1F0AE37E83; Wed, 17 Jan 2007 19:25:26 +0100 (CET) Received: from smtp4-2-sn2.hy.skanova.net (smtp4-2-sn2.hy.skanova.net [81.228.8.93]) by av11-1-sn2.hy.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8BAC37E78; Wed, 17 Jan 2007 19:25:25 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.1.199] (81-234-214-163-no68.tbcn.telia.com [81.234.214.163]) by smtp4-2-sn2.hy.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9E5737E44; Wed, 17 Jan 2007 19:25:25 +0100 (CET) From: Joel Dahl To: Tom Rhodes In-Reply-To: <20070116142028.69561fcc.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> References: <1168562996.1100.42.camel@jesus.automatvapen.se> <1168948802.1333.23.camel@jesus.automatvapen.se> <20070116142028.69561fcc.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2007 19:25:23 +0100 Message-Id: <1169058323.1170.13.camel@jesus.automatvapen.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.8.2.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: [UPDATE] RFC: The end of the contributors article X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2007 18:25:27 -0000 Tis 2007-01-16 klockan 14:20 -0500 skrev Tom Rhodes: > I really hope this didn't come off as rude, I think you've > done a fabulous job thus far. Perhaps we can just put the > page in our main www/en directory, and perhaps link it from > the developers link? > > By the way, are you planning to convert the "list of developers" > and "list of contributors," etc? Yes -- see my reply to Andrew for more details. -- Joel From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 18 01:10:23 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20CA316A4F4 for ; Thu, 18 Jan 2007 01:10:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [69.147.83.40]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7263213C4B9 for ; Thu, 18 Jan 2007 01:10:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id l0I1AMpJ062376 for ; Thu, 18 Jan 2007 01:10:22 GMT (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id l0I1AMRU062375; Thu, 18 Jan 2007 01:10:22 GMT (envelope-from gnats) Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 01:10:22 GMT Resent-Message-Id: <200701180110.l0I1AMRU062375@freefall.freebsd.org> Resent-From: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org (GNATS Filer) Resent-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Resent-Reply-To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org, Ken Tom Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A69816A412 for ; Thu, 18 Jan 2007 01:01:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nobody@FreeBSD.org) Received: from www.freebsd.org (www.freebsd.org [69.147.83.33]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F084113C480 for ; Thu, 18 Jan 2007 01:01:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nobody@FreeBSD.org) Received: from www.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www.freebsd.org (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id l0I11fMx011331 for ; Thu, 18 Jan 2007 01:01:41 GMT (envelope-from nobody@www.freebsd.org) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by www.freebsd.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id l0I11fZS011330; Thu, 18 Jan 2007 01:01:41 GMT (envelope-from nobody) Message-Id: <200701180101.l0I11fZS011330@www.freebsd.org> Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 01:01:41 GMT From: Ken Tom To: freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org X-Send-Pr-Version: www-3.0 Cc: Subject: docs/108066: Correction to handbook A.7.1 Branch Tags X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 01:10:23 -0000 >Number: 108066 >Category: docs >Synopsis: Correction to handbook A.7.1 Branch Tags >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: update >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Thu Jan 18 01:10:21 GMT 2007 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Ken Tom >Release: RELENG_6 >Organization: >Environment: n/a >Description: cvs branch tags not updated on the website for RELENG_6_2 handbook/mirrors/chapters.sgml >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: The line of development for FreeBSD-6.X, also known as FreeBSD 6-STABLE + +RELENG_6_2 + + + The release branch for FreeBSD-6.2, used only for + security advisories and other critical fixes. + + + RELENG_6_1 The release branch for FreeBSD-6.1, used only for security advisories and other critical fixes. >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 18 05:53:51 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD48316A407; Thu, 18 Jan 2007 05:53:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from murray@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [69.147.83.40]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 857CC13C45E; Thu, 18 Jan 2007 05:53:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from murray@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (murray@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id l0I5rpAT088461; Thu, 18 Jan 2007 05:53:51 GMT (envelope-from murray@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from murray@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id l0I5rpt2088457; Thu, 18 Jan 2007 05:53:51 GMT (envelope-from murray) Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 05:53:51 GMT From: Murray Stokely Message-Id: <200701180553.l0I5rpt2088457@freefall.freebsd.org> To: airpain@gmail.com, murray@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: Re: docs/108066: Correction to handbook A.7.1 Branch Tags X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 05:53:51 -0000 Synopsis: Correction to handbook A.7.1 Branch Tags State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: murray State-Changed-When: Thu Jan 18 05:53:02 UTC 2007 State-Changed-Why: Thanks for the submission. I have submitted your change to CVS. The website should be updated within 24 hours. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=108066 From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 18 06:00:45 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E08A116A415 for ; Thu, 18 Jan 2007 06:00:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [69.147.83.40]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E09913C44C for ; Thu, 18 Jan 2007 06:00:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id l0I60jZB088801 for ; Thu, 18 Jan 2007 06:00:45 GMT (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id l0I60jQM088800; Thu, 18 Jan 2007 06:00:45 GMT (envelope-from gnats) Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 06:00:45 GMT Message-Id: <200701180600.l0I60jQM088800@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org From: dfilter@FreeBSD.ORG (dfilter service) Cc: Subject: Re: docs/108066: commit references a PR X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: dfilter service List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 06:00:46 -0000 The following reply was made to PR docs/108066; it has been noted by GNATS. From: dfilter@FreeBSD.ORG (dfilter service) To: bug-followup@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: Re: docs/108066: commit references a PR Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 05:52:00 +0000 (UTC) murray 2007-01-18 05:51:55 UTC FreeBSD doc repository Modified files: en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/mirrors chapter.sgml Log: Add missing RELENG_6_2 release branch. PR: docs/108066 Submitted by: Ken Tom Revision Changes Path 1.423 +9 -0 doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/mirrors/chapter.sgml _______________________________________________ cvs-all@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/cvs-all To unsubscribe, send any mail to "cvs-all-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 18 06:52:46 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: doc@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21C1E16A412 for ; Thu, 18 Jan 2007 06:52:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from remko@elvandar.org) Received: from caelis.elvandar.org (caelis.elvandar.org [217.148.169.59]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA02A13C442 for ; Thu, 18 Jan 2007 06:52:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from remko@elvandar.org) Received: from localhost (caelis.elvandar.org [217.148.169.59]) by caelis.elvandar.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA34F92FD26; Thu, 18 Jan 2007 07:52:44 +0100 (CET) Received: from caelis.elvandar.org ([217.148.169.59]) by localhost (caelis.elvandar.org [217.148.169.59]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 82120-09; Thu, 18 Jan 2007 07:52:36 +0100 (CET) Received: from redqueen.evilcoder-services.org (caelis.elvandar.org [217.148.169.59]) by caelis.elvandar.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0211D92FCD4; Thu, 18 Jan 2007 07:52:35 +0100 (CET) Received: by redqueen.evilcoder-services.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id CEE5F65E5; Thu, 18 Jan 2007 07:52:35 +0100 (CET) Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 07:52:35 +0100 From: Remko Lodder To: ????????? ?????? Message-ID: <20070118065235.GO5594@elvandar.org> References: <158060751.20070117002810@nixpcd.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <158060751.20070117002810@nixpcd.ru> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.13 (2006-08-11) X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard 1.0.1 at elvandar.org Cc: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: ask to add a vendor in the Retailers' list X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 06:52:46 -0000 On Wed, Jan 17, 2007 at 12:28:10AM +0300, ????????? ?????? wrote: > Hello! > > I'd like to ask you to add the online store I present (NIXPCD.ru) to > the list of the online retailers, published here: > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/mirrors.html > > NIXPCD.ru is a well-known in Russia and Russian-speaking > Internet-community as a vendor of wide range open-source products. We > always offer CD and DVD-disks with up-to-date FreeBSD OS, packages for > FreeBSD and we think of distributing distfiles for FreeBSD. So we > would be pleased to be helpful for you as a retailer of your products. > > Some info about us: > > Store name: Nixpcd.ru > Store URL: http://www.nixpcd.ru > FreeBSD page: http://www.nixpcd.ru/sect/freebsd > Contact Name: Dmitry Ivanov > Postal Mailing address: p/o box 116, 190000 St.Petersburg Post Office, > St.Petersburg, Russia > Email address: cdrom@nixpcd.ru > > Hello Alex, We generally do not add entries to that list unless they really support FreeBSD a lot. I cannot state that for your company at this moment, so I will not add you to this list mentioned. Thanks though for your willingness to support FreeBSD. -- Kind regards, Remko Lodder ** remko@elvandar.org FreeBSD ** remko@FreeBSD.org /* Quis custodiet ipsos custodes */ From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 18 09:57:32 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: doc@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B752616A4C2 for ; Thu, 18 Jan 2007 09:57:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from remko@elvandar.org) Received: from caelis.elvandar.org (caelis.elvandar.org [217.148.169.59]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CFB113C44C for ; Thu, 18 Jan 2007 09:57:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from remko@elvandar.org) Received: from localhost (caelis.elvandar.org [217.148.169.59]) by caelis.elvandar.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A58CF92FD22; Thu, 18 Jan 2007 10:57:31 +0100 (CET) Received: from caelis.elvandar.org ([217.148.169.59]) by localhost (caelis.elvandar.org [217.148.169.59]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 03090-09; Thu, 18 Jan 2007 10:57:24 +0100 (CET) Received: from redqueen.evilcoder-services.org (caelis.elvandar.org [217.148.169.59]) by caelis.elvandar.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9D3292FCD4; Thu, 18 Jan 2007 10:57:24 +0100 (CET) Received: by redqueen.evilcoder-services.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id AC41865E8; Thu, 18 Jan 2007 10:57:24 +0100 (CET) Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 10:57:24 +0100 From: Remko Lodder To: Marc Ren? Arns Message-ID: <20070118095724.GS5594@elvandar.org> References: <200701171832.28368.dienst@marcrenearns.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200701171832.28368.dienst@marcrenearns.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.13 (2006-08-11) X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard 1.0.1 at elvandar.org Cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: make buildkernel fails without complete source tree X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 09:57:32 -0000 On Wed, Jan 17, 2007 at 06:32:27PM +0100, Marc Ren? Arns wrote: > Dear documentation team > > as opposed to the process meantioned here: > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/kernelconfig-building.html > > it is not sufficious to have the kernel sources to build a kernel with > > # cd /usr/src > # make buildkernel KERNCONF=GENERIC > > This results in the message > > # make: don't know how to make buildkernel. Stop > > The reason is that the Makefile in /usr/src is missing when getting the kernel > sources via sysinstall. > > Tested with 6.2 release. > > Even if it is a bug I think that as long as it is this way it should be > reflected in the handbook. > > Thank you for your great work! > > Regards, > Benny Hello, This is not true. I downloaded the packages which are being used by sysinstall and extracted them. I found the Makefile, it was properly filled with instructions. That said; if this was the case, we would already be swampted with requests to fix this. Most likely your installation medium did not provide the src packages at all, or your download (if you used that) was corrupt or something. Thanks for the notice however! Best regards, remko -- Kind regards, Remko Lodder ** remko@elvandar.org FreeBSD ** remko@FreeBSD.org /* Quis custodiet ipsos custodes */ From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 18 11:09:19 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2EDE16A416; Thu, 18 Jan 2007 11:09:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from maxim@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [69.147.83.40]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87D0113C44C; Thu, 18 Jan 2007 11:09:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from maxim@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (maxim@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id l0IB9J8R014926; Thu, 18 Jan 2007 11:09:19 GMT (envelope-from maxim@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from maxim@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id l0IB9JdZ014922; Thu, 18 Jan 2007 11:09:19 GMT (envelope-from maxim) Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 11:09:19 GMT From: Maxim Konovalov Message-Id: <200701181109.l0IB9JdZ014922@freefall.freebsd.org> To: rob@remarque.org, maxim@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: Re: docs/107696: getsockopt(2) does not document SO_TIMESTAMP and SO_BINSTAMP options X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 11:09:19 -0000 Synopsis: getsockopt(2) does not document SO_TIMESTAMP and SO_BINSTAMP options State-Changed-From-To: patched->closed State-Changed-By: maxim State-Changed-When: Thu Jan 18 11:09:00 UTC 2007 State-Changed-Why: Merged to RELENG_6. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=107696 From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 18 17:20:20 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 778D416A494 for ; 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Thu, 18 Jan 2007 17:19:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nobody@FreeBSD.org) Received: from www.freebsd.org (www.freebsd.org [69.147.83.33]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 135E913C44C for ; Thu, 18 Jan 2007 17:19:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nobody@FreeBSD.org) Received: from www.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www.freebsd.org (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id l0IHJdD6038782 for ; Thu, 18 Jan 2007 17:19:39 GMT (envelope-from nobody@www.freebsd.org) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by www.freebsd.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id l0IHJdTB038781; Thu, 18 Jan 2007 17:19:39 GMT (envelope-from nobody) Message-Id: <200701181719.l0IHJdTB038781@www.freebsd.org> Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 17:19:39 GMT From: "Dr. Markus Waldeck" To: freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org X-Send-Pr-Version: www-3.0 Cc: Subject: docs/108101: /boot/default/loader.conf contains an incorrect comment X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 17:20:20 -0000 >Number: 108101 >Category: docs >Synopsis: /boot/default/loader.conf contains an incorrect comment >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Thu Jan 18 17:20:19 GMT 2007 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Dr. Markus Waldeck >Release: 7.0-CURRENT-200701 >Organization: >Environment: FreeBSD fbh 7.0-CURRENT-200701 FreeBSD 7.0-CURRENT-200701 #0: Wed Jan 17 20:32:09 UTC 2007 root@fbh:/usr/src/sys/i386/conf/CUSTOM i386 >Description: /boot/default/loader.conf following lines: #autoboot_delay="10" # Delay in seconds before autobooting, # set to -1 if you don't want user to be # allowed to interrupt autoboot process and # escape to the loader prompt I changed autoboot_delay to "-1" got the following effect. The boot process stops at the menu and waits until input. and a user could select from the menu. >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 18 18:08:29 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: doc@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FDC316A417 for ; Thu, 18 Jan 2007 18:08:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from murray.stokely@gmail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.171]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF75613C469 for ; Thu, 18 Jan 2007 18:08:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from murray.stokely@gmail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id o2so221730uge for ; Thu, 18 Jan 2007 10:08:28 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=izBSt6r7UH/vdTRZvS+Y2OtoQjwMGouZt6P71hTWuSuw/uHEmAbNb21Vu1lrJBNYo7xQSFOocSMUNIVBD0n87NHkmc35h9qdlCLMg21O3IRPuaTw2dJCcQtbJ7baAcZDMZgyI9ba6DfNFa2NzWij4BIYwNVormwIxjLZqwies9U= Received: by 10.82.165.1 with SMTP id n1mr300629bue.1169142610518; Thu, 18 Jan 2007 09:50:10 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.82.108.20 with HTTP; Thu, 18 Jan 2007 09:50:10 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <474078f80701180950s5e307d27lf91d2d2f2322737b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 09:50:10 -0800 From: "Murray Stokely" To: "Remko Lodder" In-Reply-To: <20070118095724.GS5594@elvandar.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <200701171832.28368.dienst@marcrenearns.de> <20070118095724.GS5594@elvandar.org> Cc: ru@freebsd.org, re@freebsd.org, doc@freebsd.org, Marc Ren? Arns Subject: Re: make buildkernel fails without complete source tree X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 18:08:29 -0000 On 1/18/07, Remko Lodder wrote: > This is not true. I downloaded the packages which are being used by sysinstall > and extracted them. I found the Makefile, it was properly filled with instructions. It looks to me like src/release/makefile builds the tar file ssys.tar by just tarring /usr/src/sys and therefore would in fact be missing /usr/src/Makefile and /usr/src/Makefile.inc1 necessary for "make buildkernel". Taking a look at the tar file: cat ssys.a?? > ssys.tar && tar tvf ssys.tar I see that only files in /usr/src/sys are included. We could add a tar -r -f .. /usr/src/Makefile /usr/src/Makefile.inc1 to release.7 in /usr/src/release/Makefile to automatically add these two files as a special case to the ssys distribution. CCing re@ for any comments on that proposal. - Murray From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 18 18:27:45 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: doc@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2763C16A407; Thu, 18 Jan 2007 18:27:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bmah@freebsd.org) Received: from a.mail.sonic.net (a.mail.sonic.net [64.142.16.245]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CEAC13C4B8; Thu, 18 Jan 2007 18:27:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bmah@freebsd.org) Received: from [192.168.26.75] (64-84-9-2-sf-gw.ncircle.com [64.84.9.2]) (authenticated bits=0) by a.mail.sonic.net (8.13.8.Beta0-Sonic/8.13.7) with ESMTP id l0IIRcB9019184 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 18 Jan 2007 10:27:38 -0800 Message-ID: <45AFBC10.6030700@freebsd.org> Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 10:27:28 -0800 From: "Bruce A. Mah" User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Macintosh/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Murray Stokely References: <200701171832.28368.dienst@marcrenearns.de> <20070118095724.GS5594@elvandar.org> <474078f80701180950s5e307d27lf91d2d2f2322737b@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <474078f80701180950s5e307d27lf91d2d2f2322737b@mail.gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigA127A88906DC8FF96185B45B" Cc: doc@freebsd.org, re@freebsd.org, ru@freebsd.org, Marc Ren? Arns Subject: Re: make buildkernel fails without complete source tree X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 18:27:45 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigA127A88906DC8FF96185B45B Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable If memory serves me right, Murray Stokely wrote: > On 1/18/07, Remko Lodder wrote: >> This is not true. I downloaded the packages which are being us= ed by sysinstall >> and extracted them. I found the Makefile, it was properly fill= ed with instructions. >=20 > It looks to me like src/release/makefile builds the tar file ssys.tar > by just tarring /usr/src/sys and therefore would in fact be missing > /usr/src/Makefile and /usr/src/Makefile.inc1 necessary for "make > buildkernel". >=20 > Taking a look at the tar file: >=20 > cat ssys.a?? > ssys.tar && tar tvf ssys.tar >=20 > I see that only files in /usr/src/sys are included. >=20 > We could add a tar -r -f .. /usr/src/Makefile /usr/src/Makefile.inc1 > to release.7 in /usr/src/release/Makefile to automatically add these > two files as a special case to the ssys distribution. CCing re@ for > any comments on that proposal. I vaguely remember this issue coming up before, and that we didn't make any changes to packaging because that in order to use the buildkernel target, one "should" have already done a buildworld, which requires the complete source tree anyway. (Maybe I'm mis-remembering...) 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Mah" , doc@freebsd.org, Murray Stokely , ru@freebsd.org, re@freebsd.org, Marc Ren? Arns Subject: Re: make buildkernel fails without complete source tree X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 18:54:08 -0000 Ken Smith wrote: > On Thu, 2007-01-18 at 10:27 -0800, Bruce A. Mah wrote: >> If memory serves me right, Murray Stokely wrote: >>> On 1/18/07, Remko Lodder wrote: >>>> This is not true. I downloaded the packages which are being used by sysinstall >>>> and extracted them. I found the Makefile, it was properly filled with instructions. >>> It looks to me like src/release/makefile builds the tar file ssys.tar >>> by just tarring /usr/src/sys and therefore would in fact be missing >>> /usr/src/Makefile and /usr/src/Makefile.inc1 necessary for "make >>> buildkernel". >>> >>> Taking a look at the tar file: >>> >>> cat ssys.a?? > ssys.tar && tar tvf ssys.tar >>> >>> I see that only files in /usr/src/sys are included. >>> >>> We could add a tar -r -f .. /usr/src/Makefile /usr/src/Makefile.inc1 >>> to release.7 in /usr/src/release/Makefile to automatically add these >>> two files as a special case to the ssys distribution. CCing re@ for >>> any comments on that proposal. >> I vaguely remember this issue coming up before, and that we didn't make >> any changes to packaging because that in order to use the buildkernel >> target, one "should" have already done a buildworld, which requires the >> complete source tree anyway. >> >> (Maybe I'm mis-remembering...) >> >> Bruce. >> > > I don't recall a discussion about this (it may pre-date my involvement > in RE) but my understanding was the 'make ' in /usr/src was > only supported if you load all of the source tree (which is what Bruce > is saying). Extracting just the sys sources is still useful because you > can do "manual" (old fashioned, which is why I know about it...) kernel > builds on the current system: > > cd /usr/src/sys/i386/conf > config GENERIC > cd ../compile/GENERIC > etc... > > But to do anything beyond that you really need the whole src tree. > Hmm didn't notice that this was a sys/ only download, thought it was an entire download. I downloaded the entire src/ stuff from the ftp servers and with that extracted, i have a nice Makefile with all the required stuff. My apologies for the mislead! -- Kind regards, Remko Lodder ** remko@elvandar.org FreeBSD ** remko@FreeBSD.org /* Quis custodiet ipsos custodes */ From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 18 19:08:33 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: doc@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 492B116A40F; Thu, 18 Jan 2007 19:08:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kensmith@cse.Buffalo.EDU) Received: from opus.cse.buffalo.edu (opus.cse.Buffalo.EDU [128.205.32.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E862D13C44B; Thu, 18 Jan 2007 19:08:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kensmith@cse.Buffalo.EDU) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost.cse.buffalo.edu [127.0.0.1]) by opus.cse.buffalo.edu (8.13.8/8.12.4) with ESMTP id l0IIppY1092026; Thu, 18 Jan 2007 13:51:51 -0500 (EST) From: Ken Smith To: "Bruce A. Mah" In-Reply-To: <45AFBC10.6030700@freebsd.org> References: <200701171832.28368.dienst@marcrenearns.de> <20070118095724.GS5594@elvandar.org> <474078f80701180950s5e307d27lf91d2d2f2322737b@mail.gmail.com> <45AFBC10.6030700@freebsd.org> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-mkVcTdMqy33vnrIfko28" Organization: U. Buffalo CSE Department Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 13:51:51 -0500 Message-Id: <1169146311.91059.38.camel@opus.cse.buffalo.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.8.1.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Cc: re@freebsd.org, Murray Stokely , ru@freebsd.org, doc@freebsd.org, Marc Ren? Arns Subject: Re: make buildkernel fails without complete source tree X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 19:08:33 -0000 --=-mkVcTdMqy33vnrIfko28 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, 2007-01-18 at 10:27 -0800, Bruce A. Mah wrote: > If memory serves me right, Murray Stokely wrote: > > On 1/18/07, Remko Lodder wrote: > >> This is not true. I downloaded the packages which are being us= ed by sysinstall > >> and extracted them. I found the Makefile, it was properly fill= ed with instructions. > >=20 > > It looks to me like src/release/makefile builds the tar file ssys.tar > > by just tarring /usr/src/sys and therefore would in fact be missing > > /usr/src/Makefile and /usr/src/Makefile.inc1 necessary for "make > > buildkernel". > >=20 > > Taking a look at the tar file: > >=20 > > cat ssys.a?? > ssys.tar && tar tvf ssys.tar > >=20 > > I see that only files in /usr/src/sys are included. > >=20 > > We could add a tar -r -f .. /usr/src/Makefile /usr/src/Makefile.inc1 > > to release.7 in /usr/src/release/Makefile to automatically add these > > two files as a special case to the ssys distribution. CCing re@ for > > any comments on that proposal. >=20 > I vaguely remember this issue coming up before, and that we didn't make > any changes to packaging because that in order to use the buildkernel > target, one "should" have already done a buildworld, which requires the > complete source tree anyway. >=20 > (Maybe I'm mis-remembering...) >=20 > Bruce. >=20 I don't recall a discussion about this (it may pre-date my involvement in RE) but my understanding was the 'make ' in /usr/src was only supported if you load all of the source tree (which is what Bruce is saying). Extracting just the sys sources is still useful because you can do "manual" (old fashioned, which is why I know about it...) kernel builds on the current system: cd /usr/src/sys/i386/conf config GENERIC cd ../compile/GENERIC etc... But to do anything beyond that you really need the whole src tree. --=20 Ken Smith - From there to here, from here to | kensmith@cse.buffalo.edu there, funny things are everywhere. | - Theodore Geisel | --=-mkVcTdMqy33vnrIfko28 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBFr8HH/G14VSmup/YRAiESAJ0XHsegolITRrHn0YJxBFxfTnPGVACgk0yu lBpyatI2v3Rg1+drUQG6ebI= =deNi -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-mkVcTdMqy33vnrIfko28-- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 18 19:29:54 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B34016A492; Thu, 18 Jan 2007 19:29:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hrs@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [69.147.83.40]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0377C13C45E; Thu, 18 Jan 2007 19:29:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hrs@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (hrs@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id l0IJTrUb059572; Thu, 18 Jan 2007 19:29:53 GMT (envelope-from hrs@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from hrs@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id l0IJTrlh059568; Thu, 18 Jan 2007 19:29:53 GMT (envelope-from hrs) Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 19:29:53 GMT From: Hiroki Sato Message-Id: <200701181929.l0IJTrlh059568@freefall.freebsd.org> To: hrs@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, hrs@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: Re: docs/105620: new article: LDAP Authentication X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 19:29:54 -0000 Synopsis: new article: LDAP Authentication Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->hrs Responsible-Changed-By: hrs Responsible-Changed-When: Thu Jan 18 19:29:29 UTC 2007 Responsible-Changed-Why: I'll handle this. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=105620 From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 18 19:38:57 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: doc@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D64D16A47E; Thu, 18 Jan 2007 19:38:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hrs@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mail.allbsd.org (vlsi00.si.noda.tus.ac.jp [133.31.130.32]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5CC913C441; Thu, 18 Jan 2007 19:38:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hrs@FreeBSD.org) Received: from delta.allbsd.org (p3089-ipbf506funabasi.chiba.ocn.ne.jp [124.100.58.89]) (authenticated bits=128) by mail.allbsd.org (8.13.1/8.13.4) with ESMTP id l0IJcguT076412; Fri, 19 Jan 2007 04:38:54 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from hrs@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (alph.allbsd.org [192.168.0.10]) (authenticated bits=0) by delta.allbsd.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id l0IJbjat042919; Fri, 19 Jan 2007 04:37:46 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from hrs@FreeBSD.org) Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 04:37:12 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <20070119.043712.131922013.hrs@allbsd.org> To: joel@FreeBSD.org From: Hiroki Sato In-Reply-To: <1168876561.1102.17.camel@jesus.automatvapen.se> References: <1168765723.1100.13.camel@jesus.automatvapen.se> <20070115.212241.00489018.hrs@allbsd.org> <1168876561.1102.17.camel@jesus.automatvapen.se> X-PGPkey-fingerprint: BDB3 443F A5DD B3D0 A530 FFD7 4F2C D3D8 2793 CF2D X-Mailer: Mew version 5.1 on Emacs 21.3 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Multipart/Signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1; boundary="--Security_Multipart(Fri_Jan_19_04_37_12_2007_389)--" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.88.7, clamav-milter version 0.88.7 on gatekeeper.allbsd.org X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH authentication, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (mail.allbsd.org [133.31.130.32]); Fri, 19 Jan 2007 04:38:55 +0900 (JST) Cc: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: RFC: The end of the contributors article X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 19:38:57 -0000 ----Security_Multipart(Fri_Jan_19_04_37_12_2007_389)-- Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Joel Dahl wrote in <1168876561.1102.17.camel@jesus.automatvapen.se>: jo> M=E5n 2007-01-15 klockan 21:22 +0900 skrev Hiroki Sato: jo> > So, well, please go ahead if you do not mind it since updating t= he jo> > list is really important. But if you have another plan such as jo> > maintaining the list in an HTML page only, please elaborate the = plan jo> > in more detail. Just I want to make sure. jo> = jo> I'm perfectly happy with a database and I don't think our plans con= flict jo> with each other. I want to improve the way we present the actual d= ata jo> to our visitors, by updating and adding more content, and do some jo> restructuring (for example by moving it to www, which seems to be a= more jo> natural place for this information). What you want to do is jo> implementing a way to store the actual data in order for us to easi= ly jo> access it from doc/www, which also would reduce the maintenance cos= t jo> significantly. With such a database in place, I think it would be = quite jo> easy to convert my work to take advantage it. Maintaining it in pl= ain jo> HTML is a PITA, and I'd like to avoid that if possible, of course. = :-) Sorry for the delay. Thanks for clarification and my concern proves unfounded now. Please go ahead! -- = | Hiroki SATO ----Security_Multipart(Fri_Jan_19_04_37_12_2007_389)-- Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBFr8xoTyzT2CeTzy0RAit2AJ9t0xRLSyspDdUr316RbTEjhhW0XwCeMsWK zCUEZk7eFQS788aCRnlPoQQ= =0VMo -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ----Security_Multipart(Fri_Jan_19_04_37_12_2007_389)---- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 18 19:52:57 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: doc@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1508C16A407; Thu, 18 Jan 2007 19:52:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) Received: from server.baldwin.cx (66-23-211-162.clients.speedfactory.net [66.23.211.162]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E65713C43E; Thu, 18 Jan 2007 19:52:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) Received: from localhost.corp.yahoo.com (john@localhost [127.0.0.1]) (authenticated bits=0) by server.baldwin.cx (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l0IJRh52065070; Thu, 18 Jan 2007 14:27:43 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) From: John Baldwin To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 14:27:51 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.1 References: <200701171832.28368.dienst@marcrenearns.de> <20070118095724.GS5594@elvandar.org> <474078f80701180950s5e307d27lf91d2d2f2322737b@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <474078f80701180950s5e307d27lf91d2d2f2322737b@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200701181427.52998.jhb@freebsd.org> X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH authentication, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (server.baldwin.cx [127.0.0.1]); Thu, 18 Jan 2007 14:27:43 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.88.3/2462/Thu Jan 18 05:07:46 2007 on server.baldwin.cx X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=4.2 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.1.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on server.baldwin.cx Cc: re@freebsd.org, Murray Stokely , ru@freebsd.org, doc@freebsd.org, Marc Ren? Arns Subject: Re: make buildkernel fails without complete source tree X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 19:52:57 -0000 On Thursday 18 January 2007 12:50, Murray Stokely wrote: > On 1/18/07, Remko Lodder wrote: > > This is not true. I downloaded the packages which are being used by sysinstall > > and extracted them. I found the Makefile, it was properly filled with instructions. > > It looks to me like src/release/makefile builds the tar file ssys.tar > by just tarring /usr/src/sys and therefore would in fact be missing > /usr/src/Makefile and /usr/src/Makefile.inc1 necessary for "make > buildkernel". > > Taking a look at the tar file: > > cat ssys.a?? > ssys.tar && tar tvf ssys.tar > > I see that only files in /usr/src/sys are included. > > We could add a tar -r -f .. /usr/src/Makefile /usr/src/Makefile.inc1 > to release.7 in /usr/src/release/Makefile to automatically add these > two files as a special case to the ssys distribution. CCing re@ for > any comments on that proposal. Those are already in sbase. I think the menu options that say "just install kernel sources" should enable sbase as well as ssys, and if someone then goes and turns it off they get what they asked for. And in fact, sysinstall already does this: int distSetKernDeveloper(dialogMenuItem *self) { int i; distReset(NULL); Dists = _DIST_DEVELOPER; SrcDists = DIST_SRC_SYS | DIST_SRC_BASE; KernelDists = selectKernel(); i = distMaybeSetPorts(self); distVerifyFlags(); return i; } So in this case you are dealing with someone who explicitly only asked for 'ssys'. I think we delivered the foot to the bullet quite well. :) Maybe add a comment though to the menu like: Index: menus.c =================================================================== RCS file: /usr/cvs/src/usr.sbin/sysinstall/menus.c,v retrieving revision 1.421 diff -u -r1.421 menus.c --- menus.c 10 Dec 2006 16:33:38 -0000 1.421 +++ menus.c 18 Jan 2007 19:25:46 -0000 @@ -1096,7 +1096,7 @@ dmenuFlagCheck, dmenuSetFlag, NULL, &SrcDists, '[', 'X', ']', DIST_SRC_SSECURE }, { " share", "/usr/src/share (documents and shared files)", dmenuFlagCheck, dmenuSetFlag, NULL, &SrcDists, '[', 'X', ']', DIST_SRC_SHARE }, - { " sys", "/usr/src/sys (FreeBSD kernel)", + { " sys", "/usr/src/sys (FreeBSD kernel; requires 'base' to build)", dmenuFlagCheck, dmenuSetFlag, NULL, &SrcDists, '[', 'X', ']', DIST_SRC_SYS }, { " tools", "/usr/src/tools (miscellaneous tools)", dmenuFlagCheck, dmenuSetFlag, NULL, &SrcDists, '[', 'X', ']', DIST_SRC_TOOLS }, I've tested it and the menu still fits in 80x25 with this. I wouldn't do anything more than this though. -- John Baldwin From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 18 19:52:57 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1508C16A407; Thu, 18 Jan 2007 19:52:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) Received: from server.baldwin.cx (66-23-211-162.clients.speedfactory.net [66.23.211.162]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E65713C43E; Thu, 18 Jan 2007 19:52:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) Received: from localhost.corp.yahoo.com (john@localhost [127.0.0.1]) (authenticated bits=0) by server.baldwin.cx (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l0IJRh52065070; Thu, 18 Jan 2007 14:27:43 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) From: John Baldwin To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 14:27:51 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.1 References: <200701171832.28368.dienst@marcrenearns.de> <20070118095724.GS5594@elvandar.org> <474078f80701180950s5e307d27lf91d2d2f2322737b@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <474078f80701180950s5e307d27lf91d2d2f2322737b@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200701181427.52998.jhb@freebsd.org> X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH authentication, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (server.baldwin.cx [127.0.0.1]); Thu, 18 Jan 2007 14:27:43 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.88.3/2462/Thu Jan 18 05:07:46 2007 on server.baldwin.cx X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=4.2 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.1.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on server.baldwin.cx Cc: re@freebsd.org, Murray Stokely , ru@freebsd.org, doc@freebsd.org, Marc Ren? Arns Subject: Re: make buildkernel fails without complete source tree X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 19:52:57 -0000 On Thursday 18 January 2007 12:50, Murray Stokely wrote: > On 1/18/07, Remko Lodder wrote: > > This is not true. I downloaded the packages which are being used by sysinstall > > and extracted them. I found the Makefile, it was properly filled with instructions. > > It looks to me like src/release/makefile builds the tar file ssys.tar > by just tarring /usr/src/sys and therefore would in fact be missing > /usr/src/Makefile and /usr/src/Makefile.inc1 necessary for "make > buildkernel". > > Taking a look at the tar file: > > cat ssys.a?? > ssys.tar && tar tvf ssys.tar > > I see that only files in /usr/src/sys are included. > > We could add a tar -r -f .. /usr/src/Makefile /usr/src/Makefile.inc1 > to release.7 in /usr/src/release/Makefile to automatically add these > two files as a special case to the ssys distribution. CCing re@ for > any comments on that proposal. Those are already in sbase. I think the menu options that say "just install kernel sources" should enable sbase as well as ssys, and if someone then goes and turns it off they get what they asked for. And in fact, sysinstall already does this: int distSetKernDeveloper(dialogMenuItem *self) { int i; distReset(NULL); Dists = _DIST_DEVELOPER; SrcDists = DIST_SRC_SYS | DIST_SRC_BASE; KernelDists = selectKernel(); i = distMaybeSetPorts(self); distVerifyFlags(); return i; } So in this case you are dealing with someone who explicitly only asked for 'ssys'. I think we delivered the foot to the bullet quite well. :) Maybe add a comment though to the menu like: Index: menus.c =================================================================== RCS file: /usr/cvs/src/usr.sbin/sysinstall/menus.c,v retrieving revision 1.421 diff -u -r1.421 menus.c --- menus.c 10 Dec 2006 16:33:38 -0000 1.421 +++ menus.c 18 Jan 2007 19:25:46 -0000 @@ -1096,7 +1096,7 @@ dmenuFlagCheck, dmenuSetFlag, NULL, &SrcDists, '[', 'X', ']', DIST_SRC_SSECURE }, { " share", "/usr/src/share (documents and shared files)", dmenuFlagCheck, dmenuSetFlag, NULL, &SrcDists, '[', 'X', ']', DIST_SRC_SHARE }, - { " sys", "/usr/src/sys (FreeBSD kernel)", + { " sys", "/usr/src/sys (FreeBSD kernel; requires 'base' to build)", dmenuFlagCheck, dmenuSetFlag, NULL, &SrcDists, '[', 'X', ']', DIST_SRC_SYS }, { " tools", "/usr/src/tools (miscellaneous tools)", dmenuFlagCheck, dmenuSetFlag, NULL, &SrcDists, '[', 'X', ']', DIST_SRC_TOOLS }, I've tested it and the menu still fits in 80x25 with this. I wouldn't do anything more than this though. -- John Baldwin From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 18 21:48:17 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE4EA16A4B3 for ; Thu, 18 Jan 2007 21:48:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from murray.stokely@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.187]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49C5D13C459 for ; Thu, 18 Jan 2007 21:48:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from murray.stokely@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id k27so303603nfc for ; Thu, 18 Jan 2007 13:48:15 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=OOudLZokFlPXdGIVm9SzrklcccvqZgIBT9Oi0SYJdPJU990BfSfwJt87UTC18I0yrDOxXldEmBy+VbRh5wacv1k3Lfz53+NEj1FoxWZE5CXrKfK8qr2/9Ys2DylpTkycBUtRFi3WcgROPVmv/S9I0Ft2V3iJSPspkSp3TVxlp3I= Received: by 10.82.184.2 with SMTP id h2mr363399buf.1169156895263; Thu, 18 Jan 2007 13:48:15 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.82.108.20 with HTTP; Thu, 18 Jan 2007 13:48:14 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <474078f80701181348q16ceb16bs40ba45b3d7057b83@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 13:48:14 -0800 From: "Murray Stokely" To: "John Baldwin" In-Reply-To: <200701181427.52998.jhb@freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <200701171832.28368.dienst@marcrenearns.de> <20070118095724.GS5594@elvandar.org> <474078f80701180950s5e307d27lf91d2d2f2322737b@mail.gmail.com> <200701181427.52998.jhb@freebsd.org> Cc: doc@freebsd.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org, ru@freebsd.org, re@freebsd.org, Marc Ren? Arns Subject: Re: make buildkernel fails without complete source tree X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 21:48:17 -0000 On 1/18/07, John Baldwin wrote: =================================================================== > - { " sys", "/usr/src/sys (FreeBSD kernel)", > + { " sys", "/usr/src/sys (FreeBSD kernel; requires 'base' > to build)", I think this is a good solution. - Murray From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 18 21:48:19 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: doc@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01C5616A492 for ; Thu, 18 Jan 2007 21:48:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from murray.stokely@gmail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.170]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9128B13C45B for ; Thu, 18 Jan 2007 21:48:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from murray.stokely@gmail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id o2so267353uge for ; Thu, 18 Jan 2007 13:48:18 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=OOudLZokFlPXdGIVm9SzrklcccvqZgIBT9Oi0SYJdPJU990BfSfwJt87UTC18I0yrDOxXldEmBy+VbRh5wacv1k3Lfz53+NEj1FoxWZE5CXrKfK8qr2/9Ys2DylpTkycBUtRFi3WcgROPVmv/S9I0Ft2V3iJSPspkSp3TVxlp3I= Received: by 10.82.184.2 with SMTP id h2mr363399buf.1169156895263; Thu, 18 Jan 2007 13:48:15 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.82.108.20 with HTTP; Thu, 18 Jan 2007 13:48:14 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <474078f80701181348q16ceb16bs40ba45b3d7057b83@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 13:48:14 -0800 From: "Murray Stokely" To: "John Baldwin" In-Reply-To: <200701181427.52998.jhb@freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <200701171832.28368.dienst@marcrenearns.de> <20070118095724.GS5594@elvandar.org> <474078f80701180950s5e307d27lf91d2d2f2322737b@mail.gmail.com> <200701181427.52998.jhb@freebsd.org> Cc: doc@freebsd.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org, ru@freebsd.org, re@freebsd.org, Marc Ren? Arns Subject: Re: make buildkernel fails without complete source tree X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 21:48:19 -0000 On 1/18/07, John Baldwin wrote: =================================================================== > - { " sys", "/usr/src/sys (FreeBSD kernel)", > + { " sys", "/usr/src/sys (FreeBSD kernel; requires 'base' > to build)", I think this is a good solution. - Murray From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 19 00:12:36 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: doc@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A40AD16A415; Fri, 19 Jan 2007 00:12:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from trhodes@FreeBSD.org) Received: from chipmunk.ai.net (axe.ai.net [205.134.161.26]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 651B813C47E; Fri, 19 Jan 2007 00:12:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from trhodes@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (net-ix.gw.ai.net [205.134.160.6] (may be forged)) by chipmunk.ai.net (8.13.4/8.13.4) with SMTP id l0J0CjCG004786; Thu, 18 Jan 2007 19:12:45 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from trhodes@FreeBSD.org) Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 19:12:25 -0500 From: Tom Rhodes To: "Bruce A. Mah" Message-Id: <20070118191225.0ba4c8c9.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <45AFBC10.6030700@freebsd.org> References: <200701171832.28368.dienst@marcrenearns.de> <20070118095724.GS5594@elvandar.org> <474078f80701180950s5e307d27lf91d2d2f2322737b@mail.gmail.com> <45AFBC10.6030700@freebsd.org> Organization: The FreeBSD Project X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 1.0.6 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: murray.stokely@gmail.com, re@FreeBSD.org, ru@FreeBSD.org, doc@FreeBSD.org, dienst@marcrenearns.de Subject: Re: make buildkernel fails without complete source tree X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 00:12:36 -0000 On Thu, 18 Jan 2007 10:27:28 -0800 "Bruce A. Mah" wrote: > If memory serves me right, Murray Stokely wrote: > > On 1/18/07, Remko Lodder wrote: > >> This is not true. I downloaded the packages which are being used by sysinstall > >> and extracted them. I found the Makefile, it was properly filled with instructions. > > > > It looks to me like src/release/makefile builds the tar file ssys.tar > > by just tarring /usr/src/sys and therefore would in fact be missing > > /usr/src/Makefile and /usr/src/Makefile.inc1 necessary for "make > > buildkernel". > > > > Taking a look at the tar file: > > > > cat ssys.a?? > ssys.tar && tar tvf ssys.tar > > > > I see that only files in /usr/src/sys are included. > > > > We could add a tar -r -f .. /usr/src/Makefile /usr/src/Makefile.inc1 > > to release.7 in /usr/src/release/Makefile to automatically add these > > two files as a special case to the ssys distribution. CCing re@ for > > any comments on that proposal. > > I vaguely remember this issue coming up before, and that we didn't make > any changes to packaging because that in order to use the buildkernel > target, one "should" have already done a buildworld, which requires the > complete source tree anyway. > > (Maybe I'm mis-remembering...) No, you remember correctly. It was I who raised this issue perhaps three years ago (more?). Thing I can't remember is if it was a re@ thing, something I mentioned at a conference which carried over to email, or a mailing list. -- Tom Rhodes From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 18 21:46:18 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3BED16A407 for ; Thu, 18 Jan 2007 21:46:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from afedorkiw1@shaw.ca) Received: from pd5mo1so.prod.shaw.ca (shawidc-mo1.cg.shawcable.net [24.71.223.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B94713C441 for ; Thu, 18 Jan 2007 21:46:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from afedorkiw1@shaw.ca) Received: from pd2mr7so.prod.shaw.ca (pd2mr7so-qfe3.prod.shaw.ca [10.0.141.10]) by l-daemon (Sun ONE Messaging Server 6.0 HotFix 1.01 (built Mar 15 2004)) with ESMTP id <0JC300M220AHZ840@l-daemon> for freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org; Thu, 18 Jan 2007 13:44:41 -0700 (MST) Received: from pn2ml3so.prod.shaw.ca ([10.0.121.147]) by pd2mr7so.prod.shaw.ca (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-2.05 (built Apr 28 2005)) with ESMTP id <0JC300JOL0AHP1L0@pd2mr7so.prod.shaw.ca> for freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org; Thu, 18 Jan 2007 13:44:41 -0700 (MST) Received: from compaqaleck ([24.79.205.135]) by l-daemon (Sun ONE Messaging Server 6.0 HotFix 1.01 (built Mar 15 2004)) with ESMTP id <0JC300FYJ09DV0B0@l-daemon> for freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org; Thu, 18 Jan 2007 13:44:26 -0700 (MST) Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 14:44:00 -0600 From: Aleck Fedorkiw To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Message-id: <000001c73b41$6668dd90$6401a8c0@compaqaleck> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6822 Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-priority: Normal Thread-index: AccwinLaV+S0QqLOToqVRJxcgfeDuA== X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 01:31:36 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: E-books X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 21:46:18 -0000 Just wondering if you have any e-books available? _____________________________ Aleck Fedorkiw Lyna Manufacturing Manager, Corporate Development email: afedorkiw1@shaw.ca phone:1-204-282-5359 All incoming\emails get scanned for virus'. _____________________________ From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 19 10:38:53 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0027616A415 for ; Fri, 19 Jan 2007 10:38:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@bsdly.net) Received: from skapet.datadok.no (skapet.datadok.no [194.54.107.19]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A32D13C45A for ; Fri, 19 Jan 2007 10:38:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@bsdly.net) Received: from thingy.datadok.no ([194.54.103.97] helo=thingy.datadok.no.bsdly.net ident=peter) by skapet.datadok.no with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1H7r91-00074g-2S; Fri, 19 Jan 2007 11:38:51 +0100 To: Aleck Fedorkiw References: <000001c73b41$6668dd90$6401a8c0@compaqaleck> From: peter@bsdly.net (Peter N. M. Hansteen) Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 11:38:47 +0100 In-Reply-To: <000001c73b41$6668dd90$6401a8c0@compaqaleck> (Aleck Fedorkiw's message of "Thu, 18 Jan 2007 14:44:00 -0600") Message-ID: <878xfz9u88.fsf@thingy.datadok.no> User-Agent: Gnus/5.1007 (Gnus v5.10.7) XEmacs/21.4.19 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: E-books X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 10:38:53 -0000 Aleck Fedorkiw writes: > Just wondering if you have any e-books available? The 'e-book' term is not entirely unambiguous, but several of the FreeBSD project's books are generated as PDFs as well as html, see eg ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook for various compressed pdf versions of the Handbook. Browsing the FreeBSD ftp site under the doc directory will turn up other PDFs. -- Peter N. M. Hansteen, member of the first RFC 1149 implementation team http://www.blug.linux.no/rfc1149/ http://www.datadok.no/ http://www.nuug.no/ "First, we kill all the spammers" The Usenet Bard, "Twice-forwarded tales" delilah spamd[29949]: 85.152.224.147: disconnected after 42673 seconds. From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 19 06:57:13 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C948B16A416 for ; Fri, 19 Jan 2007 06:57:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from samphors.hem@star-cell.net) Received: from mail.cambotech.com (mail.cambotech.com [202.131.80.9]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA8F113C44B for ; Fri, 19 Jan 2007 06:57:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from samphors.hem@star-cell.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cambotech.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D86AEE765D for ; Fri, 19 Jan 2007 13:27:26 +0700 (ICT) Received: from mail.cambotech.com ([202.131.80.9]) by localhost (mail.cambotech.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 04498-01 for ; Fri, 19 Jan 2007 13:27:20 +0700 (ICT) Received: from star-cell.net (unknown [202.131.82.198]) by mail.cambotech.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E12D5E767B for ; Fri, 19 Jan 2007 13:27:19 +0700 (ICT) Received: from ipphors ([202.178.122.42]) by star-cell.net ([192.168.1.1]) with SMTP (MDaemon.PRO.v6.0.7.R) for ; Fri, 19 Jan 2007 13:27:01 +0700 From: "Samphors Hem" To: Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 13:26:53 +0700 Message-ID: <001d01c73b92$d003ea50$0201a8c0@ipphors> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2670 Thread-Index: Acc7ks9yA48+R4HzRl6vYBxcY/EJtA== X-MDRemoteIP: 202.178.122.42 X-Return-Path: samphors.hem@star-cell.net X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at cambotech.com X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 12:28:04 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Unix operating system X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 06:57:13 -0000 Dear Sir, How can I download Unix operating system? How can I study unix by online? If I study after finish can I get certificate? Samphors Applifone Co.ltd Phnom Penh Center,Block A, Corner Sihanuk & Sothearos, Tonle Basac,Chamkarmon, Phnom Penh,Cambodia. Tel: +855 16 466 665 E-mail: samphors.hem@star-cell.net From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 19 13:43:38 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65EB116A406 for ; Fri, 19 Jan 2007 13:43:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joseph.koshy@gmail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.174]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3B8D13C45A for ; Fri, 19 Jan 2007 13:43:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joseph.koshy@gmail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id o2so422736uge for ; Fri, 19 Jan 2007 05:43:36 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=M0jXNAstFM2sz/Jdb39CWAM52H9tOV5s4iIoiA84KPk8C7hV8B/pzNEHEipsbR4JPnXM8pGKc/65gQle1+pwcc/AKB27pVKUFOBQdhpWQbM0aKFf0dd9Wtg84XfO9zGjZW01h/oRn9rUh1CRUak8hOh2P87uWHG4jRH4ZswhPyc= Received: by 10.78.193.5 with SMTP id q5mr2110374huf.1169214215541; Fri, 19 Jan 2007 05:43:35 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.78.132.8 with HTTP; Fri, 19 Jan 2007 05:43:35 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <84dead720701190543o1d07aeaex9aada445766c0a89@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 19:13:35 +0530 From: "Joseph Koshy" To: "Samphors Hem" In-Reply-To: <001d01c73b92$d003ea50$0201a8c0@ipphors> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <001d01c73b92$d003ea50$0201a8c0@ipphors> Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Unix operating system X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 13:43:38 -0000 FreeBSD specific answers follow: sh> How can I download Unix operating system? Downloadable installation media for FreeBSD are linked to from here: http://www.freebsd.org/where.html You should also read the 'Getting started' part of the FreeBSD Handbook: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/getting-started.html sh> How can I study unix by online? There are a large number of tutorials covering various aspects of FreeBSD available on the internet. In addition there are freely downloadable books such as Greg Lehey's "The Complete FreeBSD" : http://www.lemis.com/grog/Documentation/CFBSD/ sh> If I study after finish can I get certificate? There is an effort ongoing to define a certification standard for the BSD family of operating systems. Please visit http://www.bsdcertification.org/. -- FreeBSD Volunteer, http://people.freebsd.org/~jkoshy/ From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 20 09:40:18 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 910A416A406 for ; Sat, 20 Jan 2007 09:40:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [69.147.83.40]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C9CB13C467 for ; Sat, 20 Jan 2007 09:40:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id l0K9eIFo052444 for ; Sat, 20 Jan 2007 09:40:18 GMT (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id l0K9eIQW052443; Sat, 20 Jan 2007 09:40:18 GMT (envelope-from gnats) Resent-Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2007 09:40:18 GMT Resent-Message-Id: <200701200940.l0K9eIQW052443@freefall.freebsd.org> Resent-From: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org (GNATS Filer) Resent-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Resent-Reply-To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org, Richard Dawe Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E369216A402 for ; Sat, 20 Jan 2007 09:39:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nobody@FreeBSD.org) Received: from www.freebsd.org (www.freebsd.org [69.147.83.33]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FB7B13C459 for ; Sat, 20 Jan 2007 09:39:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nobody@FreeBSD.org) Received: from www.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www.freebsd.org (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id l0K9drsf014873 for ; Sat, 20 Jan 2007 09:39:53 GMT (envelope-from nobody@www.freebsd.org) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by www.freebsd.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id l0K9drGv014872; Sat, 20 Jan 2007 09:39:53 GMT (envelope-from nobody) Message-Id: <200701200939.l0K9drGv014872@www.freebsd.org> Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2007 09:39:53 GMT From: Richard Dawe To: freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org X-Send-Pr-Version: www-3.0 Cc: Subject: docs/108142: extattr(2) man page incomplete for extattr_list_*() X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2007 09:40:18 -0000 >Number: 108142 >Category: docs >Synopsis: extattr(2) man page incomplete for extattr_list_*() >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Sat Jan 20 09:40:17 GMT 2007 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Richard Dawe >Release: 6.1 >Organization: >Environment: I don't have access to the box right now. I apologise for that. The documentation is also incomplete in CVS in 6.2-RELEASE, 7-RELEASE and HEAD. >Description: The man page for extattr(2) does not describe the extattr_list_file() or extattr_list_fd() functions fully. Specifically: * It is not described what happens when data == NULL. * They are not mentioned in the RETURN VALUES section. * They are not mentioned in the ERRORS section. >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: Browsing the source tree (src/sys/ufs/ufs/ufs_extattr.c, src/sys/kern/vfs_syscalls.c) shows that extattr_list_*() return the size when data == NULL, as with extattr_get_*(). I tested and used this when porting File::ExtAttr to FreeBSD, so it works in practice. ;) I've attached a patch to the extattr(2) man page to fix these issues. Patch attached with submission follows: --- src/lib/libc/sys/extattr_get_file.2.orig 2007-01-20 09:21:31.000000000 +0000 +++ src/lib/libc/sys/extattr_get_file.2 2007-01-20 09:31:10.000000000 +0000 @@ -120,6 +120,8 @@ is .Dv NULL in a call to .Fn extattr_get_file +and +.Fn extattr_list_file then the size of defined extended attribute data will be returned, rather than the quantity read, permitting applications to test the size of the data without performing a read. @@ -134,8 +136,9 @@ they do not follow symlinks. The .Fn extattr_get_fd , .Fn extattr_set_fd , +.Fn extattr_delete_fd , and -.Fn extattr_delete_fd +.Fn extattr_list_fd , calls are identical to their .Qq Li _file counterparts except for the first argument. @@ -170,9 +173,10 @@ change as applications are adapted to us Developers are discouraged from relying on its stability. .Sh RETURN VALUES If successful, the -.Fn extattr_get_file +.Fn extattr_get_file , +.Fn extattr_set_file , and -.Fn extattr_set_file +.Fn extattr_list_file calls return the number of bytes that were read or written from the .Fa data , @@ -182,7 +186,9 @@ was .Dv NULL , then .Fn extattr_get_file -returns the number of bytes available to read. +and +.Fn extattr_list_file +return the number of bytes available to read. If any of the calls are unsuccessful, the value \-1 is returned and the global variable .Va errno @@ -213,8 +219,9 @@ The attribute name was longer than The .Fn extattr_get_fd , .Fn extattr_set_fd , +.Fn extattr_delete_fd , and -.Fn extattr_delete_fd +.Fn extattr_list_fd system calls may also fail if: .Bl -tag -width Er .It Bq Er EBADF >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 20 15:37:20 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 621BD16A400 for ; Sat, 20 Jan 2007 15:37:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from applecom@inbox.ru) Received: from mx27.mail.ru (mx27.mail.ru [194.67.23.64]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF55D13C465 for ; Sat, 20 Jan 2007 15:37:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from applecom@inbox.ru) Received: from [85.115.165.63] (port=30306 helo=xml.opera.com) by mx27.mail.ru with asmtp id 1H8IHO-000BMG-00 for freebsd-doc@freebsd.org; Sat, 20 Jan 2007 18:37:18 +0300 Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2007 20:37:19 +0500 To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org From: applecom@inbox.ru Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; delsp=yes; charset=iso-8859-1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: Quoted-Printable Message-ID: User-Agent: Opera Mail/9.10 (FreeBSD) Subject: handbook install error X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2007 15:37:20 -0000 I get an error during current handbook installation (FreeBSD 6.2-STABLE,= docproj-nojadetex-1.17): '=3D=3D=3D> en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook (install) /bin/mkdir -p /usr/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/share/sgml env SGML_CATALOG_FILES=3D XML_CATALOG_FILES=3D"file:///usr/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books /handbook/catalog-cwd.xml file:///usr/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/share/sgml/catalog.xm l file:///usr/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/share/sgml/catalog.xml file:///usr/doc/share /sgml/catalog.xml file:///usr/doc/share/sgml/catalog-common.xml file:///usr/ww w/./share/sgml/catalog.xml file:///usr/www/share/sgml/catalog.xml file:///usr/ www/share/sgml/catalog-common.xml file:///usr/local/share/xml/catalog" /usr/loc al/bin/xsltproc --nonet --param 'transtable.xml' "'/usr/doc/share/sgml/transtab le.xml'" --param 'transtable-target-element' "'country'" --param 'transtable-w ord-group' "'country'" --param 'transtable-mode' "'sortkey'" /usr/doc/share/sg ml/transtable-local.xsl /usr/doc/share/sgml/mirrors.xml | env -i LANG=3D"en_US.IS O8859-1" /usr/bin/sort -f > /usr/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/share/sgml/mirrors.xml.sort .tmp env -i /usr/bin/grep "^ /usr/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/share/sgml/mirrors.xml.sort echo "" >> /usr/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/share/sgml/mirrors.xml.sor= t env -i /usr/bin/awk '/@sortkey@/ {sub(/@sortkey@/, ++line); print;}' < /usr/doc/ en_US.ISO8859-1/share/sgml/mirrors.xml.sort.tmp >> /usr/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/shar e/sgml/mirrors.xml.sort echo '' >> /usr/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/share/sgml/mirrors.xml.so= rt env SGML_CATALOG_FILES=3D XML_CATALOG_FILES=3D"file:///usr/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books /handbook/catalog-cwd.xml file:///usr/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/share/sgml/catalog.xm l file:///usr/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/share/sgml/catalog.xml file:///usr/doc/share /sgml/catalog.xml file:///usr/doc/share/sgml/catalog-common.xml file:///usr/ww w/./share/sgml/catalog.xml file:///usr/www/share/sgml/catalog.xml file:///usr/ www/share/sgml/catalog-common.xml file:///usr/local/share/xml/catalog" /usr/loc al/bin/xsltproc --nonet -o /usr/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/share/sgml/mirrors.xml --pa ram 'transtable.xml' "'/usr/doc/share/sgml/transtable.xml'" --param 'transtable -target-element' "'country'" --param 'transtable-word-group' "'country'= " --par am 'transtable-sortkey.xml' "'/usr/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/share/sgml/mirrors.xml.so rt'" /usr/doc/share/sgml/transtable-local.xsl /usr/doc/share/sgml/mirrors.xml /bin/rm -f /usr/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/share/sgml/mirrors.xml.sort /usr/doc/en_US.I SO8859-1/share/sgml/mirrors.xml.sort.tmp echo '' > /usr/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/au togen.ent env SGML_CATALOG_FILES=3D XML_CATALOG_FILES=3D"file:///usr/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books /handbook/catalog-cwd.xml file:///usr/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/share/sgml/catalog.xm l file:///usr/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/share/sgml/catalog.xml file:///usr/doc/share /sgml/catalog.xml file:///usr/doc/share/sgml/catalog-common.xml file:///usr/ww w/./share/sgml/catalog.xml file:///usr/www/share/sgml/catalog.xml file:///usr/ www/share/sgml/catalog-common.xml file:///usr/local/share/xml/catalog" /usr/loc al/bin/xsltproc --nonet -o mirrors.sgml.ftp.inc.tmp --param 'type' "'ftp'" --p aram 'proto' "'ftp'" --param 'target' "'handbook/mirrors/chapter.sgml'"= --para m transtable.xml "'/usr/doc/share/sgml/transtable.xml'" /usr/doc/share/sgml/mir rors-local.xsl /usr/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/share/sgml/mirrors.xml runtime error: file /usr/doc/share/sgml/mirrors-master.xsl line 97 eleme= nt choos e Variable 'mirrors-docbook-country-index-without-period' has not been declared. *** Error code 10 Stop in /usr/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/doc.' I had this error a few times after cvsup'ing. It's most likely my system= problem but I don't know what.