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Date:      Thu, 9 Aug 2018 07:30:28 -0500
From:      Mark Felder <feld@feld.me>
To:        Adam Weinberger <adamw@adamw.org>
Cc:        Ryan Steinmetz <zi@freebsd.org>, Mathieu Arnold <mat@freebsd.org>, "ports-committers@freebsd.org" <ports-committers@freebsd.org>, "svn-ports-all@freebsd.org" <svn-ports-all@freebsd.org>, "svn-ports-head@freebsd.org" <svn-ports-head@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: svn commit: r476670 - in head/devel: . rubygem-solve
Message-ID:  <8632EEE8-AFFE-4BE6-8E58-CE83F7C9036E@feld.me>
In-Reply-To: <CAP7rwcimLHj2eAYYfXAd609N=14RT8_SJFU2H1qZFk9Yk05sbg@mail.gmail.com>
References:  <201808081953.w78Jr68X078029@repo.freebsd.org> <CAP7rwciJj9U0TOEvnwSCc2hCWh_NF44pPjHfmQRu8MGCYq24AA@mail.gmail.com> <20180808202929.GA63276@exodus.zi0r.com> <20180808213446.gktmjqcyrfhjkrlk@atuin.in.mat.cc> <20180808215702.GB52659@exodus.zi0r.com> <CAP7rwcimLHj2eAYYfXAd609N=14RT8_SJFU2H1qZFk9Yk05sbg@mail.gmail.com>

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> On Aug 8, 2018, at 17:18, Adam Weinberger <adamw@adamw.org> wrote:
>=20
> On Wed, Aug 8, 2018 at 3:57 PM Ryan Steinmetz <zi@freebsd.org> wrote:
>>=20
>>=20
>> On (08/08/18 23:34), Mathieu Arnold wrote:
>>>>> Ryan,
>>>>>=20
>>>>> You've just added a number of ports with uninformative pkg-descrs, =
and
>>>>> unhelpful COMMENT strings. These aren't merely formalities. Users
>>>>> should be able to read the pkg-descr and understand if it's the =
right
>>>>> package for them, and COMMENT is the first target for searches.
>>>>> Please, go back over them and, at the very least, expand the =
pkg-descr
>>>>> files with more information. As a general rule, pkg-descr should =
NEVER
>>>>> be the same text as the COMMENT.
>>>>=20
>>>> Adam,
>>>>=20
>>>> These are the description strings from authors of the code.  They =
came from
>>>> either rubygems.org and/or the gem source repository.  For example, =
in the
>>>> case of rubygem-solve:
>>>>=20
>>>> https://rubygems.org/gems/solve
>>>>=20
>>>> https://github.com/berkshelf/solve
>>>>=20
>>>> If you have any specific things you would like to see added to any =
of the
>>>> individual ports, please let me know.
>>>=20
>>> pkg-descr must contain sentences, something that can be read. It =
must at
>>> least be two lines long, so that it is descriptive enough.  The fact
>>> that upstream is crappy does not mean you can put he same crap in =
the
>>> ports tree.  It is your job as committer to make sure that ports =
conform
>>> to our policies and requirements.  If upstream does not provide a =
better
>>> decription, create one, basd on your knowledge of the software.
>>=20
>>=20
>> =
https://svnweb.freebsd.org/ports/head/devel/p5-Data-Serializer-Sereal/pkg-=
descr?revision=3D401986&view=3Dmarkup
>>=20
>> =
https://svnweb.freebsd.org/ports/head/net/rubygem-epp-client-afnic/pkg-des=
cr?revision=3D380380&view=3Dmarkup
>>=20
>> =
https://svnweb.freebsd.org/ports/head/net/rubygem-epp-client-smallregistry=
/pkg-descr?view=3Dmarkup
>>=20
>> =
https://svnweb.freebsd.org/ports/head/net/rubygem-epp-client-secdns/pkg-de=
scr?revision=3D380380&view=3Dmarkup
>=20
> Ryan, what exactly is it that you're arguing in favour of here? All I
> requested was for you to please add some helpful information in the
> descrs where possible. So far you've argued that uninformative descrs
> are okay as long as you copied it from someone else, and that
> uninformative descrs are okay because you're not the only one who does
> it.
>=20
> I'm trying to get people on board with fixing what's been an ongoing
> problem in our ports. You've agreed with the problem, but not the
> solution. If you have another solution to terse descrs that's
> different from putting more information in descrs, I'm eager to hear
> it.
>=20

Adam, please stop. You cannot honestly expect committers to invent =
descriptions for ports that have zero documentation. I have plenty of =
ports myself that only exist in the tree because I had to chase =
dependencies for the software I intended to port. Most of these are =
libraries that have non-descript or "too-clever" names and of which I =
have no idea what their function is. It is not my responsibility nor the =
responsibility of any committer to fix this problem.

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