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God, I hate BSD vs. Linux questions...

On Sat, Feb 20, 1999 at 11:06:39PM -0800, Aaron Presuhn wrote:
> Hi I just have a couple questions about FreeBSD.
> 
> 1) How does compare to Linux in Ease of installation? Is it easy to
> install or not?  I'm speaking in terms of a Linux newbie, which is
> what I am.

They are, in my opinion, both quite easy to install.

> 
> 2) Where can I find a list of video cards that FreeBSD supports?  

FreeBSD doesn't support anything special in terms of video hardware.
X11 is what handles the video hardware.  See www.xfree86.org

> 
> 3) How does it compare to Linux in the field of stability and
> reliability?

My experience is that they are both very stable OS's and are quite
reliable.  My Linux box at work has been up since it was installed
without a single reboot over three months ago.  I've had my FreeBSD
boxes up for just as long or longer, only having to reboot for some
sort of maintenance (move the machine, whatever).

However, BSD seems to excel when under a heavy load.  Linux doesn't
quite measure up there...

> 
> 4) Does it come with GUI's like fvwm, and kde and stuff like that?
> 

For more information, see www.freebsd.org.  But yes, X11 is available.

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Why have I been singled out for a lecture here Greg? You haven't
Cc:'d the 2 other respondents. Your comments could equally well
apply to them also.

On Sun, Feb 21, 1999 at 10:57:45AM +1000, Greg Black wrote:
> First, please trim the irrelevant elements of posts that you
> respond to (see the regular article about how to get the best
> from the list if this is a puzzle).
> 

I have read the regular article, and no, it isn't a puzzle.

I take it that by "irrelevant elements" you mean the original
poster's .sig, since Charon back-quoted the entire message, except
for the .sig, as well.

> > How are you editing the password file? If you are just editing
> > /etc/passwd it won't work. Use vipw(8). When you save and exit vipw
> > re-builds the passwd database.
> 
> It might be useful to explain why editing /etc/passwd is no use,
> since that has been for many years (and still is, in many cases)
> the canonical way to do these things.
> 

My reply was pretty much the same as Jim Mock's yet I don't see
Jim's name in the To: or Cc: fields of your e-mail.

It didn't seem necessary to go into detail of how the password file
mechanism works. The original poster only wanted to know how to
change his default shell and mentioned that he had tried editing
/etc/passwd and it didn't work.

> FreeBSD (like many other modern systems) provides both "shadow"
> passwords and a variety of extra fields that are not part of the
> traditional /etc/passwd file.  All this magic is contained in
> the new passwd file (/etc/master.passwd) and this is the file
> that must be edited (using vipw) for changes to take effect.
> 
> After the editing is done, vipw does what is needed to update
> both /etc/passwd and the hashed database files -- which are the
> files that are really accessed by all the lookup routines.
> 
> RTFM for a fuller description, starting with passwd(5).
> 

I have RTFM, quite recently as well. Due to a utility truncating
/etc/passwd, /etc/master.passwd and /etc/groups to zero bytes I
had to figure out how to repair the damage.

> -- 
> Greg Black <gjb@acm.org>
> 
> 

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At 10:23 PM 2/20/99 -0500, Kerberus wrote:
>Ok im so soRry but i need to VENT, whats with the list here and
>freebsd-mobile... ive tried to get a bit of background on a pcmcia card
>that works in one ctx laptop but not another ctx laptop...... i get a
>device timeout error.... its seems like a simple fix, but Ive gotten no
>support or response what so ever..... and i really dont want to go back
>to linux on this darn thing i want FreeBSD on it..... 2.2.8-release i
>just need a bit of help.
>ANYBODY ANYBODY...???? PLEASE....! Dont make me BEG!!!

From Greg Lehey's "How to get best results from FreeBSD-questions."

"  1.  Remember that nobody gets paid for answering a FreeBSD
      question. They do it of their own free will.  You can influence
      this free will positively by submitting a well-formulated
      question supplying as much relevant information as possible. You
      can influence this free will negatively by submitting an
      incomplete, illegible, or rude question. It's perfectly possible
      to send a message to FreeBSD-questions and not get an answer
      even if you follow these rules.
...
  7.  If you do all this, and you still don't get an answer, there
     could be other reasons. For example, the problem is so
     complicated that nobody knows the answer, or the person who does
     know the answer was offline. If you don't get an answer after,
     say, a week, it might help to re-send the message. If you don't
     get an answer to your second message, though, you're probably not
     going to get one from this forum.  Resending the same message
     again and again will only make you unpopular."

I myself have often been frustrated by people not answering questions, but
that's life.  FreeBSD still has the best tech support I've seen, commercial
product or no.  (You should have seen me trying to explain what a
horizontal refresh rate was to the support staff at Chembook, for example.
*sigh*)



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i'm looking for information about setting up things like /dev/dsp so
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On Sunday, 21 February 1999 at  2:21:22 -0600, Michael Mad Max Maxwell wrote:
> God, I hate BSD vs. Linux questions...
>> 3) How does it compare to Linux in the field of stability and
>> reliability?
>
> My experience is that they are both very stable OS's and are quite
> reliable.  My Linux box at work has been up since it was installed
> without a single reboot over three months ago.  I've had my FreeBSD
> boxes up for just as long or longer, only having to reboot for some
> sort of maintenance (move the machine, whatever).
>
> However, BSD seems to excel when under a heavy load.  Linux doesn't
> quite measure up there...

For a long time, I've refused to answer this question due to lack of
reasonable evidence.  Now I've seen
http://advisor.gartner.com/n_inbox/hotcontent/hc_2121999_3.html, which
seems a reasonably careful analysis.  It shows that FreeBSD
outperforms Linux by about 50% in the areas which they have examined,
but for some reason comes to the conclusion that, though FreeBSD has
all the advantages, one should choose Linux.  In particular, they
write:

  FreeBSD UNIX-Advantages, Disadvantages

    FreeBSD UNIX has a similar story to Linux, but without the
    commercial aggregators of the code or the honor system that
    prevents commercial vendors from advancing the OS in unique
    ways. Thus, to base a product on FreeBSD eliminates the cost of
    the OS entirely. On the downside, though, there quickly becomes no
    such thing as standard FreeBSD. Every vendor ends up with a
    proprietary operating system based on FreeBSD, but not the
    identical OS. This is fine for the thin server vendor that wants
    to control the entire software layer, applications and all, but
    can be a burden and drawback to the vendor that wants to support
    commercial applications from other vendors. However, the key value
    in all successful thin servers will be the glue that creates an
    integrated, optimized system. This often calls for low-level
    changes to the OS, and exposing those changes to the competition,
    a la the Linux model, may not be in the best interest of the
    vendor.

I disagree with the statement " Every vendor ends up with a
proprietary operating system based on FreeBSD"   The fact is that
there *is* only one FreeBSD, whereas there are multiple versions of
Linux.  I'm not sure what the author was thinking of when he said
this.

Anyway, I haven't had enough time to analyze this report.  I'd be
interested in feedback from others on the subject.

Greg
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On Sat, Feb 20, 1999 at 05:44:28AM -0500, Rob wrote:
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> > 
> > Maybe it's time to go buy a SCSI card...  :-P
> 
>      If I could just find a supported one that hasn't been discontinued
> or cost more than $300 :(

Take a look a Diamond Fireport cards (http://www.diamondmm.com).
They do narrow, wide and dual versions. Based on the Symbios 875
chip they are supported by the ncr0 driver in FreeBSD. I've got a
Fireport 40 (wide) and it works fine. Cost ~UKP70, so shouldn't be
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I have ever experienced the picobsd under freebsd 2.2.5 release.  But I
have failed.  The kernel can't mount MFS as root file system
automatically.  I set "options MFS_ROOT=2200" in kernel config file.
And make MFS file system accroding the methods by Bialecki downloaded
from www.freebsd.org/~picobsd.  Who has successfully run picobsd under
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On 21-Feb-99 John Kenagy wrote:
> 
> <whole lotta snippage...> 
>>> ypservers is empty since there's only one server, 
> 
>> Does the master need to have itself listed in ypservers?
> 
> Yep, I beleive it does. I have a very similar setup at home, and the
> master _is_ in the ypservers file. It is the first map built.

How did you put the master in it? As localhost, as an IP numeric, as the
full IP host + domain name?

I noticed that when I put localhost in ypservers it takes longer to make
the maps, but when I reboot still nothing on rpc.yppasswdd. I still have to
CTRL-C it after a minute of 2-5. 

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On 21-Feb-99 Crist J. Clark wrote:
> Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai wrote,
>> On 20-Feb-99 Crist J. Clark wrote:
>> > Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai wrote,

>> FreeBSD daemon.ninth-circle.org 4.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT #12: Sun
>> Feb 14 19:24:39 CET 1999    
>> asmodai@daemon.ninth-circle.org:/work/FreeBSD/src/sys/compile/DAEMON 
>> i386
>> 
>> [asmodai@daemon] (24) $ grep ^nis rc.conf
>> nisdomainname="ninth-circle"            # Set to NIS domain if using NIS
>> (or NO).
>> nis_client_enable="NO"          # We're an NIS client (or NO).
>> nis_client_flags=""             # Flags to ypbind (if enabled).
> 
> The server is not a client to itself?

Not for now, was first wanting to get the server part working as it should
be, not much use for a clientside with the current problem =)
 
>> nis_ypset_enable="NO"           # Run ypset at boot time (or NO).
>> nis_ypset_flags=""              # Flags to ypset (if enabled).
>> nis_server_enable="YES"         # We're an NIS server (or NO).
>> nis_server_flags=""             # Flags to ypserv (if enabled).
>> nis_ypxfrd_enable="NO"          # Run rpc.ypxfrd at boot time (or NO).
>> nis_ypxfrd_flags=""             # Flags to rpc.ypxfrd (if enabled).
>> nis_yppasswdd_enable="YES"      # Run rpc.yppasswdd at boot time (or
>> NO).
>> nis_yppasswdd_flags="-t /var/yp/master.passwd -v"       # Flags to
>> rpc.yppasswdd (if enabled).
>                                                 ^^
> This is good. Do you get any info? Perhaps I should have asked
> initially, why do you think that yppasswdd is hanging in the
> first place?

OK, ye know the boot process of starting daemons? rpc.yppasswdd takes far
too long to my taste, I mean 5-10 minutes? I have to CTRL-C it to continue
booting. 
 
>> So we also need an ll from /var/yp:
>> 
>> [asmodai@daemon] (29) $ ll
>> total 43
>>  1 drwxr-xr-x   3 root  wheel  -   512 Feb 20 23:49 ./
>>  1 drwxr-xr-x  19 root  wheel  -   512 Dec 30 23:18 ../
>> 18 -r--r--r--   1 root  wheel  - 18126 Feb 16 20:23 Makefile
>> 18 -r--r--r--   1 root  wheel  - 18126 Feb 15 02:29 Makefile.dist
>>  2 -rw-------   1 root  wheel  -  1249 Feb 20 13:17 master.passwd
>>  1 drwxr-xr-x   2 root  wheel  -   512 Feb 20 13:17 ninth-circle/
>>  2 -rw-r--r--   1 root  wheel  -  1064 Feb 20 13:17 passwd
>>  0 -rw-r--r--   1 root  wheel  -     0 Feb 16 20:41 ypservers
>> 
>> ypservers is empty since there's only one server, 
> 
> Does the master need to have itself listed in ypservers?

As far as I know/knew not. But as the follow-up mail from John points out:
it might be needed. Then remains the question how to put it in there. As a
hostname, a full host+domain name, an IP numeric?

>> master.passwd is a
>> changed version of the /etc one.
>> 
>> All the NIS maps got created as they should I think. What still confuses
>> me
>> is that from the tutorials I managed to overview, some mention to add
>> +::::::::: or +::: to the /var/yp/master.passwd and /etc/group files.
> 
> Those lines need  to be added to /etc/master.passwd and /etc/group on
> the _clients._

Readjusted this, thanks.

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On 21-Feb-99 Richard Paris wrote:
> I really want to download of the latest FreeBSD of the FTP site and just
> downloaded about 700MB worth...But what did I just download? There are so
> many hard links etc.... Isn't there just one directory that has the whole
> cd-rom or cds there? What dirs do I have to download to get the whole
> thing? I don't want to burn it onto CDROM only to find out that I am
> missing files once I try and install it.

http://www.freebsd.org/FAQ/FAQ25.html#25

This will at least tell you what files are needed to get a fully working OS.

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System: FreeBSD 3.1 Stable recent upgrade from 2.2.7
Downloaded the code for XFree86 3.3.3, latest port (make in the
/usr/ports/x11/XFree86 dir).  The make portion went without a
problem.

However, when I did a make install, it stopped with errors.  I have
the output from a script [filename] make install (gzipped) for whom
ever is interested in seeing it (it's about 10K gzipped, 95K normal).
The main errors were in main.o and many tcl***.o files, referring
to many "undefined" calls to tcl and tk-related functions.  I know
I have tcl and tk installed, but not all versions (only the 8.0 and
8.1 versions).  Also, they're in a.out format (was just trying to
upgrade everything to elf).  Nothing in the ports dir mentionning
the necessity for more than what I had, and as I said, make went
without a problem.

Any ideas/clues/links to info?

Thanks,

Manu


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I have just downloaded Xfree86 3.3.3 and now want to install it.

I believe that you with packages that are not on the ports collection you
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I am using FreeBSD-3.0 and the packages come in .tgz format.

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On a related note:  I d/l'ed a bunch of FreeBSD files in order to install
3.1-RELEASE from scratch (I originally tried installing from FTP but PPP
wouldn't work, or FTP wouldn't connect or something - error 0 was all I
got).  

So far so good; except if i try to install from the Boot Floppies using
Install From A Dos Partition it can't seem to find the FreeBSD directory
(or at least it complains that it can't install any of the dists, including
/bin).  I've put a "FREEBSD" directory on each of my drives in the hope one
will work.  Nope.

Next, try the DOS install from the \tools directory.  So far so good, only
now it claims that bin.inf is corrupt.  I've downloaded bin.inf several
times, in several formats (Binary, Ascii).  Corrupt, corrupt, corrupt.
*Looks* fine, as far as I can tell - looks like a text file.  But "Corrupt"
it is.

Help?  I really want to get this 200+ download to actually work!  Is there
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On 21-Feb-99 zhu zhong hua wrote:
> I have ever experienced the picobsd under freebsd 2.2.5 release.  But I
> have failed.  The kernel can't mount MFS as root file system
> automatically.  I set "options MFS_ROOT=2200" in kernel config file.
> And make MFS file system accroding the methods by Bialecki downloaded
> from www.freebsd.org/~picobsd.  Who has successfully run picobsd under
> 2.2.5 release?   And what's the config files to make kernel and MFS file
> system?

Best way would be to mail -small as this is the primary playground for
picoBSD.

My knowledge of the configuration isn't that great unfortunately, so I
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On 21-Feb-99 Langa Kentane wrote:
> I have just downloaded Xfree86 3.3.3 and now want to install it.
> 
> I believe that you with packages that are not on the ports collection you
> can't use the pkg_add command.  How do I install?
> I am using FreeBSD-3.0 and the packages come in .tgz format.

If it's the normal .tar.gz/.tgz file from an X mirror than one could place
it in /usr/ports/distfiles, go to the appropriate ports directory and make.

Make will normally try to download it, but seeing that it exists in
/usr/ports/distfiles will just use the file.

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On 21-Feb-99 Enoch Wu wrote:

> myisp:
>  set phone 1234567
>  set login "TIMEOUT 180 gin: myuserid ord: mypasswd"
>  set timeout 300
>  set ifaddr 127.0.0.1/0 127.0.0.2/0
>  delete ALL
>  add 127.0.0.1/0 255.255.255.0 204.122.22.0/16

I'm curious why ye would use this add line, since yer ISP could have
multiple gateways to use...

my ppp.conf

ISP:
 set phone 1234-567890
 set login
 set authname uhhuh
 set authkey Idontthinkso
 set timeout 300
 set ifaddr 10.0.0.1/0 10.0.0.2/0 255.255.255.0 0.0.0.0
 add default HISADDR
 enable dns

This will negotiate a dynamic IP and set the default gateway to the ISP and
use PAP/CHAP for the authentication.

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Dos FreeBSD have a dos emulator like Linux or has DOS EMU been ported to
FreeBSD??
And how about a NetWare Emulator??

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On 20-Feb-99 Malartre wrote:
> root@isis.dynip.com wrote:
>> 
>> Hi there,
>> Looking at the kinds of questions on the FreeBSD-Questions mailing
>> list, I want to ask iss it feasible to create the following lists:
>> 
>>         1. FreeBSD-Urgent       --> People with crashes, lost passwords
>>                                         and all cirisis situations

This will be a list that will be easily abused from the start since every
person new to an Operating System like FreeBSD will think that their
probleem is indeed urgent and deemed a crisis situation.

>>         2. FreeBSD-Hardware     --> People with questions about hardware
>>                                         support required for their
>>                                         hardware, and Driver programmers
>>                                         can meet their customers.

Already exists.
 
>>         3. FreeBSD-Network      --> Natd, pppd, ipfw, Sendmail and all
>>                                         that gang

Already exists.

>> This will take away much of the Load off the Questions list
>> It will also increase the specificity of the lists, thus making them
>> more productive

Nah, that won't happen. Be glad that questions exists else the other lists
would be having a very high signal/noise ratio.
 
> I was thinking to simply add alias to the freebsd-questions mailing
> list.
> What it mean is that all mail goes to freebsd-questions, but that you
> can classify them in folders using filters.
> Like, freebsd-hardware is an alias to freebsd-questions. You only have
> to subscribe to freebsd-questions, and you will receive a mail sent to
> freebsd-hardware.

Thus increasing the message flow one gets from questions and add to
crossposting...

On a sidenote, may I suggest creating a normal user account for yourself
and not mail out as root?

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On 19-Feb-99 saad wrote:

> $ ls -l /etc/*ld*
> ls: /etc/*ld*: No such file or directory
> 
> aren't there supposed to be ld.so.conf and ld-elf.so.config files in the
> /etc directory? mine seem to be missing and i couldnt' even find them in
> /usr/src/etc/ ... ?

No, one has to create them theirselves, since the library paths are set in
/etc/rc.conf under ldconfig_paths.

To create those ld files simply place every lib directory path on it's own
line and use them like this:

ldconfig -elf /etc/ld-elf.so.conf -aout /etc/ld.so.conf 

depending on which binary format yer using offcourse.

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On 19-Feb-99 Samuel Stainback wrote:
> 
> I have a Micron desktop with a 3c905 PCI ethernet car.  BSD does not find
> this card during installation.  I have disabled the PNP BIOS and it still
> does not work.  Does anyone know what I could do to get it working?

It depends on the version of FreeBSD, later ones have it integrated, older
ones require to download the drivers from, I think, Bill Paul's website.

Do a search on 3c90x in the questions mailinglist and ye will be hitted a
tenfold with this question with the URL.

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On 19-Feb-99 Drew Schaffner wrote:
> Here is my kernel configuration file that cuases an ERROR code 1 
> when make is executed from /usr/src/sys/compile/DREW :

Might I suggest you looking at LINT and even further commenting other
drivers and just remove the commented lines? This will make your kernel
config file more easier to read. I saw that your CPU was set to 686, why
have eisa then?

> Any help greatly appreciated. I'm trying to set up IP masquerading if you
> have any pointers, let me know.

www.freebsdzine.org and www.freebsddiary.com are bound to have some
tutorials about these topics.

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On 19-Feb-99 Vaclav Sklenar wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> on Linux there is a chance to use IPX and connect to Netware servers. Is
> something like that on BSD too?

Yes, just take a look at LINT, it has an IPX option:

options         IPX                     #IPX/SPX communications protocols

Problem though, we don't support 802.2, 802.3, SNAP frames =\

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On 19-Feb-99 swjeong wrote:
> 
>   I am using FreeBSD-3.0-RELEASE. 
> 
>   I know that kernel core dump can'be debugged with built-in gdb.
>   I got aout version of gdb. But it said 'ksymbol not found' and I
> counldn't
>   debug. Thus I made elf kernel by adding 'KERNFORMAT=elf' at the head of
>   kernel Makefile. But boot load said 'Invalid Format!'.
>   
>   How can I boot with ELF kernel?

Hmm, look through /etc/make.conf

If I remember correctly 3.0-R uses an ELF userland, but an a.out kernel. To
use the ELF kernel one needs to update the bootblocks. This has been
discussed to death in either the questions, stable or current mailinglists.

I wish I could provide some pointers, but freefall seems to be down for
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I am new to FreeBSD.  I want to find the location of this file just to take
a look at it.  I am not actually planning to change anything on it.

Thanx in advance

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"Max Calvo" <mc4pc@goodnet.com> writes:

  > I am trying to ftp to a remote host and create a tar file from a
  > directory tree. Then I want to transfer the big tar file into my
  > computer. can anyone provide me my feedback if this is possible???

Some FTP servers provide the option of automatically creating a tar
file.  That is, if you type `dir' and see a directory `foo', then the
FTP server allows you to type `get foo.tar.gz' and it will make a
tarball of the directory on the fly, sending it to you.

I think the WU ftp server groks this.  Dunno about other FTP servers.

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On Sun, 21 Feb 1999 at 15:08:27 +0200, Langa Kentane wrote:
> I am new to FreeBSD.  I want to find the location of this file just
> to take a look at it.  I am not actually planning to change anything
> on it.
>

It's /etc/sendmail.cf.

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I have just installed KDE 1.1 on a FreeBSD 3.1-RELEASE system,
and now, after exiting X11/KDE, a shared memory segment is _always_
left by the kaudioserver process. I use the "startkde" script
for starting KDE from xinitrc. This did not happen with KDE 1.0.

Is there any other KDE 1.1 users having this problem?

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Greg Lehey wrote:
> 
> On Sunday, 21 February 1999 at  2:21:22 -0600, Michael Mad Max Maxwell wrote:
> > God, I hate BSD vs. Linux questions...
> >> 3) How does it compare to Linux in the field of stability and
> >> reliability?


Well, anyone wanting to set up a server (to take one of the FreeBSD 
strong points) might want to know the answer to these and other questions.

I had to do this with minimal UNIX knowledge about 6 months ago, and chose 
FreeBSD, which was certainly a good, if not the ideal choice then.

However, a question for me now that I understand a bit more is, will Linux 
perhaps be a better choice than FreeBSD in the future?


Here are some reasons why it might be, or which might influence a future 
decision:


(1) Secure web server support

For use in the US, SSLeay is not legal without a RSA license, and licenses for 
individual commmercial use are effectively not available from RSA. For FreeBSD, 
you must buy a commercial product that includes RSA licensing. Stronghold (an 
independent SSL implementation) is $1000, Raven (based on SSLeay) is $357. 
That's per server box.

Enter Linux, with Red Hat now offering SSLeay with RSA licensing (single 
server) in a packaged distribution at about $50.

Why can't FreeBSD (Walnut Creek say) do this?


(2) High-end database support

I've lost track of posts on Oracle support in Linux and FreeBSD, but I gather 
this is likely to come for Linux, but what support might be available for 
FreeBSD I'm not clear on. This could be an important consideration in the 
future - even just knowing the future plans could influence a decision on OS.


(3) Technical Support

If I have to pay for technical support, it rather ruins the effect for a free 
OS. I've noticed that several technical questions important to me have gone 
effectively unanswered on the FreeBSD lists. I have no idea if Linux groups or 
vendors might be better in this regard, or how the cost of paid support 
compares, but it's something I would want to know more about for future 
decisions.


(4) Saleable skills

Installed base per se doesn't matter to me when I choose an OS for my own 
server. But if I want to do work in the outside world, being familiar with 
Linux might be a big plus, especially as the Linux market share increases.


These are "real-world" practical issues rather than matters of outright 
performance. The latter certainly does count, but it's not the only 
consideration.


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Hi

I'm running 3.1-RELEASE. I currently have 2 hard drives and a cd-rom
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The problem that I'm having is trying to mount a fat32 (win98) partition
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Yes you could just block incoming connections from your firewall on these
ports.  Although reading your message I'm not sure I understand exactly what
you want to block.  Are you intending on blocking netbios connections coming
from an outside network to an inside network, or are you just blocking these
connections to the FreeBSD machine?
-Chris

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Hi,

I've read that UDP/TCP ports 137-139 which are used for NetBios, can be
some security threats to system. Does anybody knows if I can block at
least incoming this kind of packets on firewall without making any
restrictions for Windows (NT/95) PCs?

Thanks,
Nazila N.



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Where can I find the FTP configuration file.  I want to set thing like the
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Dear Sirs,

I upgrade my FreeBSD from 3.0 to 3.1, but I found some problem in my
wtmp and utmp.

1.I can't use 'who' to see who is telnet to this machine.
2.After some user logout, I use 'last'. But it tell me the use is 'still
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I have tried to remove wtmp, utmp and lastlog, and touch them. But still
usefuless. I don't have this problem in 3.0.

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From owner-freebsd-questions  Sun Feb 21  8: 0:49 1999
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i'm trying to do some very odd profiling on a SMP machine...
instead of trying to meaure how much time the profiled
process is using, i want to have some function to call
to stamp another incr into the profile tables.

That's cause i want to discover where the process is running
when certain i/o events occur... if the device is in some
particular state, i want to incr the tick in a corresponding
process...

that way i can find out, for example, what a particular process
was doing when some i/o resource was exausted.

in the smp environment, i know i hafta cause each of the procs
to give up their state, so that i can correctly ascribe that
state into the profiled data...   i've gotten somewhat into reading
the apic/ipi code, but need some clues about whether i'm
digging down the right hole... or if i've missed something.

i'm trying to figure out exactly where (and how) the per processor
state gets dumped...


mts.


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Dear Chris, 

You're right, I must explain the case much clearly.  Actually, I want to 
block any packet with source or destination port equal to 137, 138 or 
139 from coming in or going out of our intranet. It will be done  on our 
firewall which is IPFW on FreeBSD. So Netbios connections will be 
allowed inside our Intranet, but be denied from/to go out/come in. 
I'd like to get sure that it doesn't make any restriction for existing 
services. 

Thanks,
Nazila 

>
>Yes you could just block incoming connections from your firewall on 
these
>ports.  Although reading your message I'm not sure I understand exactly 
what
>you want to block.  Are you intending on blocking netbios connections 
coming
>from an outside network to an inside network, or are you just blocking 
these
>connections to the FreeBSD machine?
>-Chris
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
>[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Nana Ni.
>Sent: Sunday, February 21, 1999 12:54 AM
>To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
>Subject: UDP/TCP Ports 137, 138, 139
>
>
>Hi,
>
>I've read that UDP/TCP ports 137-139 which are used for NetBios, can be
>some security threats to system. Does anybody knows if I can block at
>least incoming this kind of packets on firewall without making any
>restrictions for Windows (NT/95) PCs?
>
>Thanks,
>Nazila N.
>


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At 01:42 PM 2/21/99 +0100, Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai wrote:
>On 21-Feb-99 Enoch Wu wrote:
>
>>  add 127.0.0.1/0 255.255.255.0 204.122.22.0/16
>
>I'm curious why ye would use this add line, since yer ISP could have
>multiple gateways to use...
>

OK. I was desperate so tried just about anything .... but you are right.

>my ppp.conf
>
>ISP:
> set phone 1234-567890
> set login
> set authname uhhuh
> set authkey Idontthinkso
> set timeout 300
> set ifaddr 10.0.0.1/0 10.0.0.2/0 255.255.255.0 0.0.0.0
> add default HISADDR
> enable dns
>
>This will negotiate a dynamic IP and set the default gateway to the ISP and
>use PAP/CHAP for the authentication.

It is my pleasure to announce that the above script works like magic !
Thank you very very much !

Best Regards,
Enoch Wu



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After seeing some success others on this list have had installing Oracle for
Linux on their FBSD box, I figured I'd give it a try.  I am able to install
most of the pieces, however it get a segmentation fault when trying to
install the Oracle RDBMS.  I am trying to install this on:

FreeBSD bsdbox.scott.home 3.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 3.0-RELEASE #2: Fri Dec 18
22:45:32 EST 1998     root@bsdbox.scott.home:/usr/src/sys/compile/BSDBOX
i386

I did find that I had an older linux_lib (2.5) on the system, so I installed
linux_lib-2.6 from ports.

The installation script does complain that env ULIMIT is not set, but says
it will just use 2113674.  I couldn't find anything on ulimit.  Other than
that, the script seems to work fine.

Any ideas on why I am getting a segmentation fault or ways I can make this
work would be great.

Thanks in advance,

Scott



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From owner-freebsd-questions  Sun Feb 21  8:41:27 1999
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On Sun, 21 Feb 1999, Michael Cugley wrote:

> So far so good; except if i try to install from the Boot Floppies using
> Install From A Dos Partition it can't seem to find the FreeBSD directory
> (or at least it complains that it can't install any of the dists, including
> /bin).  I've put a "FREEBSD" directory on each of my drives in the hope one
> will work.  Nope.

Does your directory heirarchy resemble:

C:\
  \FREEBSD\
          \BIN
          \MANPAGES
          \TOOLS
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Bernard,

I'm not using a 3Com card in my FreeBSD machine. One is a Ne2000 card
and the other is a NetGear 2000 Card... Does anyone have any ideas?
Please help me.

Brian.

On Sun, 21 Feb 1999, Bernard J. Courtney wrote:

> I couldn't get my 3Com card to work with FreeBSD either...anyone have ideas-
> it is the 3c509B PCI card??
> 
> Bernie
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Brian Budnick <clubkid@bzzzz.com>
> To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG <freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG>
> Date: Sunday, February 21, 1999 12:58 AM
> Subject: 100BaseT Problem
> 
> 
> >
> >Question:
> >
> >I currently have my FreeBSD 3.1-RELEASE machine setup with two ethernet
> >cards in it. The first ethernet card is a 100-Base-T card which is
> >configured for a fake network of 10.0.0.x. The Second ethernet card is
> >a 10-Base-T card which is setup for the real network of 209.90.xxx.xxx.
> >I have natd running under type 'open' which seems to work Ok. It was
> >running great for about 1 hour and then i tried to send a file across
> >the 100-Base-T connection to the server and it locked up my FreeBSD
> >machine totally. Ever since then I have nothing but troubles with the
> >FreeBSD machine. I can't quite figure out what the problem is. On
> >bootup this is what it looks like:
> >
> >Feb 20 21:08:37 stardust /kernel: real memory  = 75497472 (73728K bytes)
> >Feb 20 21:08:37 stardust /kernel: avail memory = 69853184 (68216K bytes)
> >Feb 20 21:08:37 stardust /kernel: Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at
> >0xf0343000.
> >Feb 20 21:08:37 stardust /kernel: eisa0:7 <@@@00=0x0> unknown device
> >Feb 20 21:08:37 stardust /kernel: Probing for devices on PCI bus 0:
> >Feb 20 21:08:37 stardust /kernel: chip0: <Intel 82437VX PCI cache memory
> >controller> rev 0x02 on pci0.0.0
> >Feb 20 21:08:37 stardust /kernel: chip1: <Intel 82371SB PCI to ISA bridge>
> >rev 0x01 on pci0.7.0
> >Feb 20 21:08:37 stardust /kernel: ide_pci0: <Intel PIIX3 Bus-master IDE
> >controller> rev 0x00 on pci0.7.1
> >Feb 20 21:08:37 stardust /kernel: pn0: <82c168/82c169 PNIC 10/100BaseTX>
> >rev 0x21 int a irq 10 on pci0.13.0
> >Feb 20 21:08:37 stardust /kernel: pn0: Ethernet address: 00:a0:cc:3d:15:a6
> >Feb 20 21:08:37 stardust /kernel: pn0: autoneg complete, link status good
> >(half-duplex, 100Mbps)
> >Feb 20 21:08:37 stardust /kernel: vga0
> >Feb 20 21:08:37 stardust /kernel: : <Trident model 9420 VGA-compatible
> >display device> rev 0xc3 on pci0.14.0
> >Feb 20 21:08:37 stardust /kernel: ed1: <NE2000 PCI Ethernet (RealTek
> >8029)> rev 0x00 int a irq 11 on pci0.15.0
> >Feb 20 21:08:37 stardust /kernel: ed1: address 00:40:c7:2b:00:bb, type
> >NE2000 (16 bit)
> >
> >Feb 20 21:08:37 stardust /kernel: IP packet filtering initialized, divert
> >enabled, rule-based forwarding disabled, unlimited logging
> >
> >I seem to have some major video problems once it locks up and i compeltely
> >turn the computer off and then back on.. I sometimes have to take the card
> >out and put it back in before i can get a display to come up. I'm not
> >sure if this is related some how?
> >
> >Is there people using FreeBSD 3.1 on 100 Base T and able to transfer files
> >across at 100 Base T speeds without any problems? What may be causing my
> >computer to completely lock up?
> >
> >Any with any ideas i would really appreciate it.
> >
> >Brian.
> >
> >
> >
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On Sat, 20 Feb 1999, Aaron Presuhn wrote:

> Hi I just have a couple questions about FreeBSD.
> 
> 1) How does compare to Linux in Ease of installation? Is it easy to
> install or not?  I'm speaking in terms of a Linux newbie, which is
> what I am.

This depends on which Linux distribution your talking about. The only
Linux I have ever installed was Debian, and that was pretty similar to the
FreeBSD installation.

> 
> 2) Where can I find a list of video cards that FreeBSD supports?  
> 

FreeBSD supports just about any video card in text mode. You probably want
to know which video cards it supports for graphics, and that is dependant
on XFree86. Check out www.xfree86.org. 

> 3) How does it compare to Linux in the field of stability and
> reliability?

FreeBSD is as or more stable and reliable than Linux. 
 
> 
> 4) Does it come with GUI's like fvwm, and kde and stuff like that?

Yup, FreeBSD comes with a variety of window managers, including FVWM and
KDE. 

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The FTP installation of 3.1-RELEASE (from the scratch) :

1. Didn't install XF86Setup, eventhough the VGA16 (and plain VGA) has been
configured and installed.
2. Says "you don't have the libs, install the compat22 distribution" while
trying to install Netscape Communicator 4.5, eventhough ldconfig -r yields
about 50 of 'em.

I've read all the docs on 3.1...

What's up?



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I am running 3.1-RELEASE on a system with a mix of IDE and SCSI drives.
Everytime I boot, the kernel loads, then tries to switch root to da1s1a.
This is an invalid root.  Root should be on da0s1a.  I have even compiled
into the kernel root on da0, but that does not seem to help.  There have
been two ways I found to correct this:

1. create a /boot.config file with 1:da(0,a)/kernel in it
2. get to a boot loader prompt and set root_disk_unit=0

Both work, but here is my question.  With solution 1, I don't get access
to the cool new boot loader.  I rather like it, and would like to be able
to use it from time to time.  With option 2, I can't autoboot the system.
IT seems I always have to get to a prompt and set that variable.  Is there
a way to save that variable for each boot, or is there a way to make
FreeBSD use da0s1a as root and still use the new BTX loader?  Thanks.
Here are some boot loader stats:

disk 0: Floppy drive
disk 1: IDE internal C: drive with Windows 95
disk 2: SCSI external D: drive with one partition and the following slices
	slice a: FFS (/)
	slice b: swap
	slice e: FFS (/var)
	slice f: FFS (/usr)
	slice g: FFS (/usr/local)
	slice h: FFS (/home)
disk 3: IDE internal E: drive with one partition and the following slices
	slice e: FFS (/usr/ports)
	slice f: FFS (/usr/src)
disk 4: SCSI external ZIP drive
	FAT 32

currdev is set to disk2s1a, but it always panics trying to change root to
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I added a new system call (new_write) to the freebsd (2.2.7) kernel. The
kernel compiled successfully but when I tried to use the call in a
program, I got the following error:
"Undefined symbol '_new_write' referenced from text segment"


What am I missing? The steps I followed to add my system call were:

1. Declared a new entry in syscalls.master
   326	STD	0	BSD	{ void new_write(void);}
(325 is currently the last entry in syscalls.master)
2. Created a new file (called new_write.c) in sys/kern, containing the 
function definition for new_write

Do I have to declare an extern function prototype in some header file too?

I appreciate your feedback.
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On Sun, 21 Feb 1999, Langa Kentane wrote:

> I am new to FreeBSD.  I want to find the location of this file just to take
> a look at it.  I am not actually planning to change anything on it.

The file is usually /etc/sendmail.cf, so look in /etc. :)

Dennis

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hi, i would like to subscribe to a UNIX/FreeBSD/Security magazine! Does
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Hi.

I'm attempting to create archive cds.  Basically I don't have enough disc
space to setup multiple local source trees.  I would like to download all
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Hi All

I upgraded from version 2.2.7 to version 3.1 Release.

when running cronjobs i see the following in /var/cron/log:

CRON[6330]: _secure_path: cannot stat /etc/login.conf: Permission denied



I also notice on other thing:

when trying the man command i get the msg: man: unable to find the file
/etc/manpath.config

here my /etc :

bash# ls -l /etc/manpath*

-rwxrwxrwx 1 root wheel 852 Feb 21 20:06 /etc/manpath.config

what am i doing wrong ?????

any suggestion are welcome

Thanks in advance

Toni




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<P>I upgraded from version 2.2.7 to version 3.1 Release.</P>
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Good afternoon,

I am trying to access (a probably not yet supported) flatbed scanner on a
2.2.8 box after having installed sane-1.0 and hoping to find some hints in
that. find-scanner does locate the scanner (probed and hooked up to
/dev/uk0 during boot, find-scanner is in the tools directory in the work
sources dir), but (x)scanimage only say something like `scanimage: open of
device xxx failed: Invalid argument', equally to any  xxx device I put
into 'scanimage --help -d xxx'.

This might just be as one should expect, but I'm looking for clues where I
can't find any. The sane homepage, imho, is not too verbose (yet), at
least not for someone like me, maybe that I'm just missing the point, or
that I'm just a slow learner.

For now, all I know is how to make the device send its (all too verbose,
see below) id, from scsi(8) and ncrcontrol(8), and I also had a look at
<sys/scsiio.h>, which I need to digest a little longer, I think.

To cut a long story short, I'd like to get the scanner working, or at
least get some more information out of it to be able to see whether it's
worth it, but I'm somewhat running out of ideas where to look. I have sent
a fax twice to the manufacturer (Relisys/Teco), without any response.

The char-flood for the hackers follows below. Please include my email
(pcc@gmx.de,pc@inr.fzk.de) in the Cc: if not replying directly, and maybe
switch to a more appropiate list.

Thanks for lending your... er... eye,

Best regards,

Peter.

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Peter Cornelius <pc@akk.org>

uname -a (note: domain names are only used internally, not officially!!):
FreeBSD petra.cornelius.org 2.2.8-STABLE FreeBSD 2.2.8-STABLE #0: Mon Jan 11 21:57:37 CET 1999 root@petra.cornelius.org:/usr/src/sys/compile/PETRA  i386

cat /var/run/dmesg.boot :
Copyright (c) 1992-1998 FreeBSD Inc.
Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993
        The Regents of the University of California.  All rights reserved.

FreeBSD 2.2.8-STABLE #0: Mon Jan 11 21:57:37 CET 1999
    root@petra.cornelius.org:/usr/src/sys/compile/PETRA
Calibrating clock(s) ... i586 clock: 132633211 Hz, i8254 clock: 1193198 Hz
CPU: Pentium/P54C (132.63-MHz 586-class CPU)
  Origin = "GenuineIntel"  Id = 0x52b  Stepping=11
  Features=0x1bf<FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,MCE,CX8>
real memory  = 100663296 (98304K bytes)
Physical memory chunk(s):
0x00001000 - 0x0009efff, 647168 bytes (158 pages)
0x002ab000 - 0x05ff5fff, 97824768 bytes (23883 pages)
avail memory = 95604736 (93364K bytes)
pcibus_setup(1):        mode 1 addr port (0x0cf8) is 0x8000005c
pcibus_setup(1a):       mode1res=0x80000000 (0x80000000)
pcibus_check:   device 0 is there (id=122d8086)
Probing for devices on PCI bus 0:
        configuration mode 1 allows 32 devices.
chip0 <Intel 82437FX PCI cache memory controller> rev 2 on pci0:0:0
        CPU Inactivity timer:  clocks
        Peer Concurrency: enabled
        CPU-to-PCI Write Bursting: enabled
        PCI Streaming: enabled
        Bus Concurrency: enabled
        Cache: 256K pipelined-burst secondary; L1 enabled
        DRAM: no memory hole, 66 MHz refresh
        Read burst timing: x-2-2-2/x-3-3-3
        Write burst timing: x-2-2-2
        RAS-CAS delay: 3 clocks
chip1 <Intel 82371FB PCI-ISA bridge> rev 2 on pci0:7:0
        I/O Recovery Timing: 8-bit 1 clocks, 16-bit 1 clocks
        Extended BIOS: enabled
        Lower BIOS: disabled
        Coprocessor IRQ13: enabled
        Mouse IRQ12: disabled
        Interrupt Routing: A: IRQ15, B: IRQ11, C: IRQ12, D: disabled
                MB0: disabled, MB1: disabled
chip2 <Intel 82371FB IDE interface> rev 2 on pci0:7:1
        mapreg[20] type=1 addr=00003000 size=0010.
        Primary IDE: disabled
        Secondary IDE: disabled
vga0 <VGA-compatible display device> rev 0 int a irq 15 on pci0:17:0
        mapreg[10] type=0 addr=f0000000 size=800000.
ahc0 <Adaptec aic7850 SCSI host adapter> rev 0 int a irq 11 on pci0:18:0
        mapreg[10] type=1 addr=00006000 size=0100.
        mapreg[14] type=0 addr=f0800000 size=1000.
        reg20: virtual=0xf54c6000 physical=0xf0800000 size=0x1000
ahc0: Using left over BIOS settings
ahc0: aic7850 Single Channel, SCSI Id=7, 3 SCBs
ahc0: Resetting Channel A
ahc0: Downloading Sequencer Program...ahc0: 367 instructions downloaded
Done
ahc0: Probing channel A
ahc0 waiting for scsi devices to settle
ahc0: target 0 synchronous at 10.0MHz, offset = 0xf
ahc0: target 0 Tagged Queuing Device
(ahc0:0:0): "IBM DCAS-34330 S65A" type 0 fixed SCSI 2
sd0(ahc0:0:0): Direct-Access 4134MB (8467200 512 byte sectors)
sd0(ahc0:0:0): with 8205 cyls, 6 heads, and an average 171 sectors/track
ahc0: target 5 synchronous at 4.0MHz, offset = 0xf
(ahc0:5:0): "TOSHIBA CD-ROM XM-5401TA 3115" type 5 removable SCSI 2
cd0(ahc0:5:0): CD-ROM cd present [233209 x 2048 byte records]
ncr0 <ncr 53c810 fast10 scsi> rev 1 int a irq 12 on pci0:19:0
        mapreg[10] type=1 addr=00006100 size=0100.
        mapreg[14] type=0 addr=f0801000 size=0100.
        reg20: virtual=0xf54c7000 physical=0xf0801000 size=0x100
ncr0: minsync=25, maxsync=206, maxoffs=8, 16 dwords burst, normal dma fifo
ncr0: single-ended, open drain IRQ driver
ncr0: restart (scsi reset).
ncr0 scanning for targets 0..6 (V2 pl24 96/12/14)
ncr0 waiting for scsi devices to settle
new ccb @f0aa5800.
(ncr0:4:0): " Image Scanner 1.08" type 6 fixed SCSI 2
uk0(ncr0:4:0): Unknown 
(ncr0:4:1): asynchronous.
(ncr0:4:1): M_REJECT received (4:8).
new ccb @f0aa5400.
(ncr0:4:1): " Image Scanner 1.08" type 6 fixed SCSI 2
uk1(ncr0:4:1): Unknown 
new ccb @f0aa5000.
(ncr0:4:2): " Image Scanner 1.08" type 6 fixed SCSI 2
uk2(ncr0:4:2): Unknown 
new ccb @f0aa8c00.
(ncr0:4:3): " Image Scanner 1.08" type 6 fixed SCSI 2
uk3(ncr0:4:3): Unknown 
new ccb @f0aa8800.
(ncr0:4:4): " Image Scanner 1.08" type 6 fixed SCSI 2
uk4(ncr0:4:4): Unknown 
new ccb @f0aa8400.
(ncr0:4:5): " Image Scanner 1.08" type 6 fixed SCSI 2
uk5(ncr0:4:5): Unknown 
new ccb @f0aa8000.
(ncr0:4:6): " Image Scanner 1.08" type 6 fixed SCSI 2
uk6(ncr0:4:6): Unknown 
new ccb @f0aa9c00.
(ncr0:4:7): " Image Scanner 1.08" type 6 fixed SCSI 2
uk7(ncr0:4:7): Unknown 
pci0: uses 8392960 bytes of memory from f0000000 upto f08010ff.
pci0: uses 528 bytes of I/O space from 3000 upto 61ff.
Probing for PnP devices:
Trying Read_Port at 203
Trying Read_Port at 243
Trying Read_Port at 283
Trying Read_Port at 2c3
Trying Read_Port at 303
Trying Read_Port at 343
Trying Read_Port at 383
Trying Read_Port at 3c3
No Plug-n-Play devices were found
Probing for devices on the ISA bus:
sc0: the current keyboard controller command byte 0047
kbdio: DIAGNOSE status:0055
kbdio: TEST_KBD_PORT status:0000
kbdio: RESET_KBD return code:00fa
kbdio: RESET_KBD status:00aa
sc0 at 0x60-0x6f irq 1 on motherboard
sc0: BIOS video mode:3
sc0: VGA registers upon power-up
50 18 10 00 10 00 03 00 02 67 5f 4f 50 82 55 81 
bf 1f 00 4f 0e 0f 00 00 07 80 9c 8e 8f 28 1f 96 
b9 a3 ff 00 01 02 03 04 05 14 07 38 39 3a 3b 3c 
3d 3e 3f 0c 00 0f 08 00 00 00 00 00 10 0e 00 ff 
sc0: video mode:24
sc0: VGA registers in BIOS for mode:24
50 18 10 00 10 00 03 00 02 67 5f 4f 50 82 55 81 
bf 1f 00 4f 0d 0e 00 00 00 00 9c 8e 8f 28 1f 96 
b9 a3 ff 00 01 02 03 04 05 14 07 38 39 3a 3b 3c 
3d 3e 3f 0c 00 0f 08 00 00 00 00 00 10 0e 00 ff 
sc0: VGA registers to be used for mode:24
50 18 10 00 10 00 03 00 02 67 5f 4f 50 82 55 81 
bf 1f 00 4f 0d 0e 00 00 00 00 9c 8e 8f 28 1f 96 
b9 a3 ff 00 01 02 03 04 05 14 07 38 39 3a 3b 3c 
3d 3e 3f 0c 00 0f 08 00 00 00 00 00 10 0e 00 ff 
sc0: rows_offset:1
sc0: VGA color <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x0>
ed0 at 0x240-0x25f irq 10 maddr 0xd2000 msize 8192 on isa
ed0: address 00:00:c0:8a:94:cd, type SMC8416C/SMC8416BT (16 bit) 
bpf: ed0 attached
lpt0 at 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on isa
lpt0: Interrupt-driven port
lp0: TCP/IP capable interface
bpf: lp0 attached
lpt1: disabled, not probed.
sio0: irq maps: 0x209 0x219 0x209 0x209
sio0 at 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 on isa
sio0: type 16550A
sio1: irq maps: 0x201 0x209 0x201 0x201
sio1 at 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa
sio1: type 16550A
sio2: irq maps: 0x1 0x201 0x1 0x1
sio2 at 0x3e8-0x3ef irq 9 on isa
sio2: type 16450
sio3: disabled, not probed.
mss_probe: no address supplied, try default 0x530
mss_detect error, busy still set (0xff)
sb_probe: no address supplied, try defaults (0x220,0x240)
pcm0 at 0x220 irq 5 drq 1 flags 0x15 on isa
pca0 on motherboard
pca0: PC speaker audio driver
fdc0 at 0x3f0-0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa
fdc0: NEC 72065B
fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold
fd0: 1.44MB 3.5in
fd1: 1.2MB 5.25in
npx0 on motherboard
npx0: INT 16 interface
joy0 at 0x201 on isa
joy0: joystick
imasks: bio c0081840, tty c00706ba, net c00706ba
BIOS Geometries:
 0:03fe3f20 0..1022=1023 cylinders, 0..63=64 heads, 1..32=32 sectors
 0 accounted for
Device configuration finished.
Intel Pentium detected, installing workaround for F00F bug
Linux-ELF exec handler installed
bpf: tun0 attached
bpf: tun1 attached
bpf: sl0 attached
bpf: sl1 attached
bpf: ppp0 attached
bpf: ppp1 attached
new masks: bio c0081840, tty c00706ba, net c00706ba
bpf: lo0 attached
ccd0-3: Concatenated disk drivers
Considering FFS root f/s.
sd0s1: type 0x6, start 32, end = 1023999, size 1023968 : OK
sd0s2: type 0xa5, start 1024000, end = 1843199, size 819200 : OK
sd0s3: type 0xa5, start 1843200, end = 8466431, size 6623232 : OK

...what else...?



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> >>> Optionally, but not recommended, you can make the disk "dangerously
> >>> dedicated".
> >>
> >> I keep seeing references that repeat this advice, but I have not
> >> seen any compelling reasons for it.  Is there any real reason
> >> why, on a machine that will never run anything but FreeBSD, this
> >> could present a problem?
> >
> > The only "real" reason that I know of is the one that came across
> > the lists recently.  As I understand it, the BIOS on a particular
> > machine gets confused by the absence of a "normal" partition table,
> > causing it to pass bogus data to the boot blocks.
> 
> Correct, I've heard this too.  I've seen a lot of discussion on the
> subject, and I'm no wiser.  Some claim that dangerously dedicated
> disks don't work at all with modern BIOSes; others make a distinction
> between safely dedicated and dangerously dedicated.  All don't supply
> enough information to convince me, but I haven't had time to look at
> it myself.

I've been using the equivalent of "dangerously dedicated" disks
on both IDE and SCSI disks on a range of PCs from a 486-33 that
dates back to 1991 up to boxes built in the last couple of weeks
running various releases of BSD/OS and FreeBSD.  I have never
had any problems with this, and don't expect to (since I'll only
ever switch to different BSD versions).

I certainly don't buy the theory about dangerously dedicated
disks not working at all with modern BIOSes -- unless this is
something that is supposed to show up in random use some time
after a successful installation, which sounds far-fetched to me.

I'm guessing here, but it looks as though any problems should
declare themselves when you first install to a new disk if they
are going to happen at all.  Does anybody have an informed
opinion on this last theory?

-- 
Greg Black <gjb@acm.org>



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Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai wrote,
> 
> On 21-Feb-99 Crist J. Clark wrote:
> > Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai wrote,
> >> On 20-Feb-99 Crist J. Clark wrote:

> > This is good. Do you get any info? Perhaps I should have asked
> > initially, why do you think that yppasswdd is hanging in the
> > first place?
> 
> OK, ye know the boot process of starting daemons? rpc.yppasswdd takes far
> too long to my taste, I mean 5-10 minutes? I have to CTRL-C it to continue
> booting. 

You've been rebooting everytime? Yee-uck. Once you kill the attempt to
start rpc.yppasswdd, does the booting complete normally? Is ypserv up
and running?

If you want to try to get rpc.yppasswdd running, you can just type
'rpc.yppasswdd <flags>' at the command line as root. No need to reboot
everytime. 

> >> So we also need an ll from /var/yp:
> >> 
> >> [asmodai@daemon] (29) $ ll
> >> total 43
> >>  1 drwxr-xr-x   3 root  wheel  -   512 Feb 20 23:49 ./
> >>  1 drwxr-xr-x  19 root  wheel  -   512 Dec 30 23:18 ../
> >> 18 -r--r--r--   1 root  wheel  - 18126 Feb 16 20:23 Makefile
> >> 18 -r--r--r--   1 root  wheel  - 18126 Feb 15 02:29 Makefile.dist
> >>  2 -rw-------   1 root  wheel  -  1249 Feb 20 13:17 master.passwd
> >>  1 drwxr-xr-x   2 root  wheel  -   512 Feb 20 13:17 ninth-circle/
> >>  2 -rw-r--r--   1 root  wheel  -  1064 Feb 20 13:17 passwd
> >>  0 -rw-r--r--   1 root  wheel  -     0 Feb 16 20:41 ypservers
> >> 
> >> ypservers is empty since there's only one server, 
> > 
> > Does the master need to have itself listed in ypservers?
> 
> As far as I know/knew not. But as the follow-up mail from John points out:
> it might be needed. Then remains the question how to put it in there. As a
> hostname, a full host+domain name, an IP numeric?

I think any of these would work.

I've been looking at the rpc.yppasswdd sources
(/usr/src/usr.sbin/rpc.yppasswddd) and might have some guesses as to
where it is hanging up.

It might hang when looking for the master server in the
'ypxfr_get_master()' call (note that this function is in
/usr/src/libexec/ypxfr/ypxfr_misc.c... you know how long it took to
find that? :). I wonder if that is the problem since ypservers is
empty and it is not looking in the right place.

The problem I am having is that it is not too clear how NIS identifies
which server is the master server. You are only supposed to run the
Makefile on the master, but there is nothing I have found in it's
comments or code that clearly states how the servers tell each other
apart. Nor have I seen this in the documentation or source code. It
makes me wonder if rpc.yppasswdd is not confused to and is looking for
a master server that it cannot find, thus causing hangs.
-- 
Crist J. Clark                           cjclark@home.com


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I have had problems with Netgear cards in Windows boxes as well, they seem to have
a large number of defective cards that they send out...  I don't have anything
against the company- they make some great hubs, and switches, but I wouldn't put a
Netgear card in one of the boxes that I support.

Just my $.02

BC

Brian Budnick wrote:

> Bernard,
>
> I'm not using a 3Com card in my FreeBSD machine. One is a Ne2000 card
> and the other is a NetGear 2000 Card... Does anyone have any ideas?
> Please help me.
>
> Brian.
>
> On Sun, 21 Feb 1999, Bernard J. Courtney wrote:
>
> > I couldn't get my 3Com card to work with FreeBSD either...anyone have ideas-
> > it is the 3c509B PCI card??
> >
> > Bernie
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Brian Budnick <clubkid@bzzzz.com>
> > To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG <freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG>
> > Date: Sunday, February 21, 1999 12:58 AM
> > Subject: 100BaseT Problem
> >
> >
> > >
> > >Question:
> > >
> > >I currently have my FreeBSD 3.1-RELEASE machine setup with two ethernet
> > >cards in it. The first ethernet card is a 100-Base-T card which is
> > >configured for a fake network of 10.0.0.x. The Second ethernet card is
> > >a 10-Base-T card which is setup for the real network of 209.90.xxx.xxx.
> > >I have natd running under type 'open' which seems to work Ok. It was
> > >running great for about 1 hour and then i tried to send a file across
> > >the 100-Base-T connection to the server and it locked up my FreeBSD
> > >machine totally. Ever since then I have nothing but troubles with the
> > >FreeBSD machine. I can't quite figure out what the problem is. On
> > >bootup this is what it looks like:
> > >
> > >Feb 20 21:08:37 stardust /kernel: real memory  = 75497472 (73728K bytes)
> > >Feb 20 21:08:37 stardust /kernel: avail memory = 69853184 (68216K bytes)
> > >Feb 20 21:08:37 stardust /kernel: Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at
> > >0xf0343000.
> > >Feb 20 21:08:37 stardust /kernel: eisa0:7 <@@@00=0x0> unknown device
> > >Feb 20 21:08:37 stardust /kernel: Probing for devices on PCI bus 0:
> > >Feb 20 21:08:37 stardust /kernel: chip0: <Intel 82437VX PCI cache memory
> > >controller> rev 0x02 on pci0.0.0
> > >Feb 20 21:08:37 stardust /kernel: chip1: <Intel 82371SB PCI to ISA bridge>
> > >rev 0x01 on pci0.7.0
> > >Feb 20 21:08:37 stardust /kernel: ide_pci0: <Intel PIIX3 Bus-master IDE
> > >controller> rev 0x00 on pci0.7.1
> > >Feb 20 21:08:37 stardust /kernel: pn0: <82c168/82c169 PNIC 10/100BaseTX>
> > >rev 0x21 int a irq 10 on pci0.13.0
> > >Feb 20 21:08:37 stardust /kernel: pn0: Ethernet address: 00:a0:cc:3d:15:a6
> > >Feb 20 21:08:37 stardust /kernel: pn0: autoneg complete, link status good
> > >(half-duplex, 100Mbps)
> > >Feb 20 21:08:37 stardust /kernel: vga0
> > >Feb 20 21:08:37 stardust /kernel: : <Trident model 9420 VGA-compatible
> > >display device> rev 0xc3 on pci0.14.0
> > >Feb 20 21:08:37 stardust /kernel: ed1: <NE2000 PCI Ethernet (RealTek
> > >8029)> rev 0x00 int a irq 11 on pci0.15.0
> > >Feb 20 21:08:37 stardust /kernel: ed1: address 00:40:c7:2b:00:bb, type
> > >NE2000 (16 bit)
> > >
> > >Feb 20 21:08:37 stardust /kernel: IP packet filtering initialized, divert
> > >enabled, rule-based forwarding disabled, unlimited logging
> > >
> > >I seem to have some major video problems once it locks up and i compeltely
> > >turn the computer off and then back on.. I sometimes have to take the card
> > >out and put it back in before i can get a display to come up. I'm not
> > >sure if this is related some how?
> > >
> > >Is there people using FreeBSD 3.1 on 100 Base T and able to transfer files
> > >across at 100 Base T speeds without any problems? What may be causing my
> > >computer to completely lock up?
> > >
> > >Any with any ideas i would really appreciate it.
> > >
> > >Brian.
> > >
> > >
> > >
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there was a long disscusion and how to over on Freebsd-database so
take a gander at the archives


Quoting Scott Gregory (sgregory@crosslink.net)
On Subject: Oracle installation woes
Date: Sun, Feb 21, 1999 at 11:39:58AM -0500

> After seeing some success others on this list have had installing Oracle for
> Linux on their FBSD box, I figured I'd give it a try.  I am able to install
> most of the pieces, however it get a segmentation fault when trying to
> install the Oracle RDBMS.  I am trying to install this on:
> 
> FreeBSD bsdbox.scott.home 3.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 3.0-RELEASE #2: Fri Dec 18
> 22:45:32 EST 1998     root@bsdbox.scott.home:/usr/src/sys/compile/BSDBOX
> i386
> 
> I did find that I had an older linux_lib (2.5) on the system, so I installed
> linux_lib-2.6 from ports.
> 
> The installation script does complain that env ULIMIT is not set, but says
> it will just use 2113674.  I couldn't find anything on ulimit.  Other than
> that, the script seems to work fine.
> 
> Any ideas on why I am getting a segmentation fault or ways I can make this
> work would be great.
> 
> Thanks in advance,
> 
> Scott
> 
> 
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Thanks for the info. Your reply has indeed proven a great help in upgrading our
knowledge in using FreeBSD.

Just one more question :

After installed the FreeBSD, the boot up process is very slow with messages
scrolling on the screen before it arrives to the login prompt. Why is this so
and what are these messages for actually? Can we in any way speed up the bootup
process?

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Initially I was only having these problems with the gnome packages, but
now I have noticed the problems also with hylafax and kdenetwork-1.1.
Whenevr I try to run applications from the packages they die with the
message

/usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Invalid file format.

The ports are having their own problems building that I haven't worked
through yet.  The machine is a 2.2.8-RELEASE -> 3.1-BETA -> 3.1-RELEASE
machine with CVS used at every step of the upgrade process. Anyone been
able to solve this? I have seen it referenced in the archives bur never a
response to it.

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Hi,

I have FreeBSD 2.2.5 at my home PC. I have been trying to increase the
resolution of my screen from 640x480 to 800x600, but in vain. I tried
changing the /etc/XF86Config file to reflect the new resolution.
Somehow,
startx does not seem to pick the information from the file. My adapter
card
(S3 VIRGE) which has 4 MB of memory supports 800x600 resolution at
256 colors (My other partition in the disk which has Windows 95, can
boot
and come up with that resolution!).

I also tried changing through xvidtune and xf86setup utilities. The log
file
startx.log indicates that 640x480 is the only supplied parameter. What
is
the correct procedure to change the video mode?

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On 21-Feb-99 Crist J. Clark wrote:
> Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai wrote,
>> 
>> On 21-Feb-99 Crist J. Clark wrote:
>> > Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai wrote,
>> >> On 20-Feb-99 Crist J. Clark wrote:
> 
>> > This is good. Do you get any info? Perhaps I should have asked
>> > initially, why do you think that yppasswdd is hanging in the
>> > first place?
>> 
>> OK, ye know the boot process of starting daemons? rpc.yppasswdd takes
>> far too long to my taste, I mean 5-10 minutes? I have to CTRL-C it to
>> continue booting. 
> 
> You've been rebooting everytime? Yee-uck. Once you kill the attempt to
> start rpc.yppasswdd, does the booting complete normally? Is ypserv up
> and running?

I had to test a few rc scripts nonetheless as well as my new kernel, so it
was quite justified ;)

> If you want to try to get rpc.yppasswdd running, you can just type
> 'rpc.yppasswdd <flags>' at the command line as root. No need to reboot
> everytime. 

I know, I tried that and it appeared to work ok, but when trying to ypbind
it appeared _not_ to work. That was before I added the server to ypservers

I just tried it with localhost in ypservers, made the maps, and it still
hangs at boot up but it does work on the command line now though.

>> >> ypservers is empty since there's only one server, 
>> > 
>> > Does the master need to have itself listed in ypservers?
>> 
>> As far as I know/knew not. But as the follow-up mail from John points
>> out: it might be needed. Then remains the question how to put it in
>> there. As a hostname, a full host+domain name, an IP numeric?
> 
> I think any of these would work.

I tried it with localhost now.

> I've been looking at the rpc.yppasswdd sources
> (/usr/src/usr.sbin/rpc.yppasswddd) and might have some guesses as to
> where it is hanging up.
> 
> It might hang when looking for the master server in the
> 'ypxfr_get_master()' call (note that this function is in
> /usr/src/libexec/ypxfr/ypxfr_misc.c... you know how long it took to
> find that? :). I wonder if that is the problem since ypservers is
> empty and it is not looking in the right place.

Well it shouldn't hang on that one now for the master not being present in
the ypservers file. It might however expect that the pushing of the maps to
slave servers be present.

/var/yp/Makefile has NOPUSH= "True" in the file.

> The problem I am having is that it is not too clear how NIS identifies
> which server is the master server. You are only supposed to run the
> Makefile on the master, but there is nothing I have found in it's
> comments or code that clearly states how the servers tell each other
> apart. Nor have I seen this in the documentation or source code. It
> makes me wonder if rpc.yppasswdd is not confused to and is looking for
> a master server that it cannot find, thus causing hangs.

That's what I am looking at. It might need ypxfrd along with it, but that
wouldn't make sense in a single server setup.

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moved to -questions from -net

Matthew Hagerty writes:
> Greetings,
> 
> I hope this is not off topic, if it is, please excuse me and if kindly
> point me to the correct list, thanks.
> 
> Is there a generally accepted method for accessing remote printers with
> FreeBSD?  I have to servers located in different states and I need to print
> to a printer located on one server from the other server.  Both are
> connected the Internet via dedicated ISDN.  I'm running FreeBSD-3.x on both.

In another state or in another room, its the same for any networked 
printer. See the man pages for lpd(8), printcap(5), and particularly 
hosts.lpd(5) (because you really want to restrict who can print on your 
printer).

The above is assuming the printer(s) in question are connected directly 
to a FreeBSD host. If they are networked printers with their own 
ethernet cards then you'll have to restrict access in your firewall.

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"Francis @ TL" <francis@cyberway.com.sg> writes:

  > After installed the FreeBSD, the boot up process is very slow with
  > messages scrolling on the screen before it arrives to the login
  > prompt. Why is this so and what are these messages for actually?
  > Can we in any way speed up the bootup process?

(1) What are all these messages for?

    Well, during bootup, the system does a number of things, and
    whenever something is done, the system tells you about it.  For
    instance, rather early on in the boot process, the kernel tries to
    probe the hardware installed.  By closely watching these messages
    (type `dmesg' to see them after the system has booted; they are
    also in the file /var/log/messages) you can tell exactly what
    happened.  For instance, suppose the Ethernet card fails, then the
    system will tell you about it.

    Later on, a number of programs are started which provide certain
    services.  The system tells you about each process started, and it
    emits an error message if that fails.

(2) How can I speed up booting?

    For me, the longest time spent is waiting 15 seconds for the SCSI
    devices to settle.  You can configure the kernel to wait a shorter
    time, but I tried it and found that I had to boot the system twice
    with the shorter time.

    What also takes time is probing for hardware.  The `generic'
    kernel includes support for a lot of hardware, you might want to
    compile your own kernel with support for just those pieces you
    actually have.

    Starting all the daemons also takes time, you might want to turn
    off the ones you don't need.  See /etc/rc.conf or
    /etc/defaults/rc.conf. 

kai
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> I have FreeBSD 2.2.5 at my home PC. I have been trying to increase the
> resolution of my screen from 640x480 to 800x600, but in vain. I tried
> changing the /etc/XF86Config file to reflect the new resolution.
> Somehow,
Is your monitor defined correctly? I'm using a S3/ViRGE DX at 1024x768 and
16bpp no problems, it should certainly work at that resolution and colour
depth. What version of XFree86?


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Today Greg Black wrote:

> I've been using the equivalent of "dangerously dedicated" disks
> on both IDE and SCSI disks on a range of PCs from a 486-33 that
> dates back to 1991 up to boxes built in the last couple of weeks
> running various releases of BSD/OS and FreeBSD.  I have never
> had any problems with this, and don't expect to (since I'll only
> ever switch to different BSD versions).

Add a 386-25 to that list and our experiences are the same.

> I certainly don't buy the theory about dangerously dedicated
> disks not working at all with modern BIOSes -- unless this is
> something that is supposed to show up in random use some time
> after a successful installation, which sounds far-fetched to me.

It seems that most of the people having problems are using "name
brand" computers.  Perhaps they're reaping a benefit of machines
that are "Designed for Windows" and running into some value added
feature of their BIOS that assumes that if the MBR doesn't match
Redmond's idea of what it should be it must be bad.

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Funny thing about all of these reasons, Graeme, the M$ operating
systems slaughter both Linux and FreeBSD on all of these.

However, I have a comment about one of your points,

Graeme Tait wrote,
> (3) Technical Support
> 
> If I have to pay for technical support, it rather ruins the effect for a free 
> OS. I've noticed that several technical questions important to me have gone 
> effectively unanswered on the FreeBSD lists. I have no idea if Linux groups or 
> vendors might be better in this regard, or how the cost of paid support 
> compares, but it's something I would want to know more about for future 
> decisions.

You say this is a reason for choosing Linux over FreeBSD, but admit
you have know idea if it is true.

My little joke about M$ aside, they are known for having some of the
worst customer support in the industry. I have heard, anecdotally,
that the free support you get for FreeBSD, Linux, and other open
source operating systems and applications is almost always superior to
their paid technical support. 

My personal experiences with SGI tech support versus
comp.sys.sgi.admin are mixed. It was sure nice to have a human whose
job it was to help me when we had a bad disk crash[0]. But I have had
other problems solved more quickly and better on Usenet.

Vendor support is not always better than free support. I think the
people who demand vendor support tend to be the management-types more
than the real administrators (and these management-types are the same
people who want to switch to NT because 'it is the future').

[0] But I still do not know if I actually got things working again
much or any faster than I would have without paid tech support. In
fact, I still was forced to resort to Usenet support. The disk crashed
on a Friday and I came into work on Saturday to try to have things in
working order by Monday. The regular SGI tech support only runs
weekdays roughly during U.S. business hours. To get help on Saturday,
my only recourse was help from fellow SGI users and admin (who read
comp.sys.sgi.admin on Saturday afternoons =).
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On Fri, 19 Feb 1999, Robert Trosen wrote:

> how do i make users with rights like the root user

The normal way is to add the user to group `wheel' in /etc/group. This
will allow them to su(1) to root whenever they like (they need to know
the root password as well).

It's always better to do most things as a std user, and `su' only when
required.
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I'm trying to restrict the messeges that fill up my messeges log file into
a sudo log. This is what I have so far:

*.notice;kern.debug;mail.crit                   /var/log/messages

!sudo
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But sudo stuff still goes into messeges as well as sudo.  How can I
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doesn't seem to help, and the man page isn't much help either.

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HI
I hope you can help me. As a newbie and a ms-windows user (maybe earlyer
windows user).
Well my case is this:
I finaly installed FreeBSD 3.0 with a boot loader on.
it start something like: 
 F1 DOS 6.22
 F2 FreeBSD
-I press F2 and login (with root and password).
and it work fine...but when i my Xwin up something strange happen.  (I start
it with startx)
I really want it to start up with afterstep every time i start Xwin. (on
RH-linux its on the Mouse menu...but not in freebsd...??)
Where do I change to make it ?? I have seen a Amiga looklike WM...how do I
use that one?
Also my screen is like BIG-BIG--and the netscape window don't fit it.
Can I make my screen smaller so every window I open fit my monitor size?
(So I don't need to pull it down every time...)
I hope you can help a newbie get started on FreeBSD...and kick that
MS-windows out for good!
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--Thanks for make a Really CooL system.
--Sune.
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Is there any Danish usergroups?




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On Sat, 20 Feb 1999, Alexander Indenbaum wrote:

> Hi!
> 
> I'm sorry for such a stupid question.
> 
> I'm trying to configure XDM to work as dummy X Terminal - to present
> chooser menu and run everything from remote.

xdm is set up on your remote (ie the machine that's running
everything). Your local X server needs to run as:

	X -broadcast

so that it picks up the display manager on your remote-host.

> Till now I read all the man pages available, but I still can not do it
> right.

Took me a while to find the right page: Xserver(1).
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Hi everyone!

For the company I work for (I got them to switch to FreeBSD, a win for
us!) we have decided we need a workgroup colour laser printer.

After looking at what's out there that fits in our budget The HP 4500
is our only choice.

However, I have read in Usenet that FreeBSD 3.0 does not support Parallel
ECP(forgive my terminonlogy) bidirectional printers. (the 4500 has an ECP 
parallel port) 

If that is accurate I was thinking I would connect the printer as a
network printer and talk to it through tcp/ip. Which would be the HP 4500N
model-- a little more expensive but worth it if I knew it would work.

Could someone give me some guidence?  If I can't use FreeBSD I could put
it on a windoze machine but that is not desirable.  Worse, the new boss is
really pushing that we switch to Red Hat as he feels it will support more
equipment.

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"Crist J. Clark" writes:
> [0] But I still do not know if I actually got things working again
> much or any faster than I would have without paid tech support. In
> fact, I still was forced to resort to Usenet support. The disk crashed
> on a Friday and I came into work on Saturday to try to have things in
> working order by Monday. The regular SGI tech support only runs
> weekdays roughly during U.S. business hours. To get help on Saturday,
> my only recourse was help from fellow SGI users and admin (who read
> comp.sys.sgi.admin on Saturday afternoons =).

That's not quite true. SGI has a 24/7 plan with something like a 1 hour
guaranteed initial response. The common support plan (the more
affordable one) is open something like 10 hours per day, 5 days per
week, off most holidays, and a 4 hour initial reply. It all depends on
how many thousands of dollars per year you wish to pay to support one
box.


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To: "FreeBSD Questions" <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org>
Subject: PPP Routing Question
Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 15:37:20 -0600
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I was wondering if someone could help me solve a little puzzle that has
plagued me during my entire Unix/Linux experience.  In short, I have never
been able to get PPP to route.  Ever.  Tell me what I'm doing wrong.

In FreeBSD it seems easy enough to me.  I start by typing:

ppp

... and then I go into terminal mode to connect to the terminal server.  I
dial in, authorize myself, and then start the PPP session.  'ppp' detects
this and takes over.  So far so good.

Now I type (within 'ppp'):

add default HISADDR

And now everything should route and be running great, right?  Well, not
exactly.  I am unable to ping any address outside of my computer.  The
packets go out but they never return (I can verify this by looking at my
modem lights).  The odd thing is that I can FTP anywhere in the world and
everything works fine for about a minute or so... and then FTP locks up and
I can't do anything.

Has anyone seen this happen before?  It's not OS specific (as far as flavors
of Unix or Linux) because I've had the same problems in Debian (which I have
long since blown away for this very reason).  I would love to get my hands
dirty with FreeBSD but I can't do much without some type of network
connection.

Any help would be GREATLY appreciated.
Thanks,
~Ladd



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David Kelly wrote,
> "Crist J. Clark" writes:
> > [0] But I still do not know if I actually got things working again
> > much or any faster than I would have without paid tech support. In
> > fact, I still was forced to resort to Usenet support. The disk crashed
> > on a Friday and I came into work on Saturday to try to have things in
> > working order by Monday. The regular SGI tech support only runs
> > weekdays roughly during U.S. business hours. To get help on Saturday,
> > my only recourse was help from fellow SGI users and admin (who read
> > comp.sys.sgi.admin on Saturday afternoons =).
> 
> That's not quite true. SGI has a 24/7 plan with something like a 1 hour
> guaranteed initial response. The common support plan (the more
> affordable one) is open something like 10 hours per day, 5 days per
> week, off most holidays, and a 4 hour initial reply. It all depends on
> how many thousands of dollars per year you wish to pay to support one
> box.

Yeah, the recorded message telling you that the regular tech number is
off-hours gives you the number for the 24/7 service. However, I was
still stuck. Even if I wanted to sign up for the 24/7 service
right-then-and-there to get access, there was no way to do that
either.

The prices are pretty mind boggling. You have to be saving yourself a
_lot_ of hours versus doing the research to fix a problem yourself to
make it worthwhile. Of the other calls I have made, a couple were
products of poor documentation on SGIs part, one was a hardware
problem they never could figure out but we eventually fixed on our
own, and the remainder just helped me with an ugly work-around (which
I could have done on my own) and never actually fixed the real problem
(or verified the problem was 'a known bug' which made me feel so much
better).

Wow, this is way off-topic. Yikes, I'm done with this thread.
-- 
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On Sun, 21 Feb 1999, Dan Langille wrote:

DL>  Please keep all responses on the mailing list.  That way, mistakes can be 
DL>  caught by those that know better.

Ok.

DL>  > xntpd itself doesn't server/respond to any NTP queries, does it ?
DL>  > You have to edit /etc/inetd.conf and enable time, correct ?
DL>  
DL>  Yes, xntpd does respond to NTP queries.

It answers to sntp queries. NTP daemon's listen on port 123, and
xntpd doesn't do this. Should I install /usr/ports/net/ntp ?
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On 21-Feb-99 Gustavo Vieira G C Rios wrote:
> hi, i would like to subscribe to a UNIX/FreeBSD/Security magazine! Does
> anybody knows any ?
> (Hard Copy, not online publications)!

www.samag.com

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Was trying to compile xpm, but got the following messages. I'm using XF
3.3.3.1 ELF. Anyone have any ideas? Is this due to something misconfigured
on my system, or is the port slightly broken for ELF?

===>  Building for xpm-3.4k
making all in ./lib...
making all in ./sxpm...
rm -f sxpm
cc -o sxpm -O2      -L/usr/X11R6/lib sxpm.o -L../lib -L/usr/X11R6/lib -lXpm -lXt -lSM -lICE -lXext -lX11    -lxpg4  -Wl,-rpath,/usr/X11R6/lib:/usr/X11R6/lib
sxpm.o: In function `main':
sxpm.o(.text+0x3f4): undefined reference to `XpmReadFileToPixmap'
sxpm.o(.text+0x998): undefined reference to `XpmReadFileToPixmap'
sxpm.o(.text+0xa7f): undefined reference to `XpmCreatePixmapFromData'
sxpm.o(.text+0xac8): undefined reference to `XpmWriteFileFromPixmap'
sxpm.o: In function `Punt':
sxpm.o(.text+0xe5b): undefined reference to `XpmFreeAttributes'
sxpm.o(.text+0xec6): undefined reference to `XpmFreeAttributes'
sxpm.o: In function `VersionInfo':
sxpm.o(.text+0xf7d): undefined reference to `XpmLibraryVersion'
sxpm.o(.text+0xf8c): undefined reference to `XpmLibraryVersion'
*** Error code 1

Stop.
*** Error code 1

Stop.
*** Error code 1

Stop.
*** Error code 1

Stop.
*** Error code 1

Stop.

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From owner-freebsd-questions  Sun Feb 21 14:29:42 1999
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On Sun, Feb 21, 1999 at 11:48:56PM +0200, Khetan Gajjar wrote:
> On Sun, 21 Feb 1999, Dan Langille wrote:
> 
> DL>  Please keep all responses on the mailing list.  That way, mistakes can be 
> DL>  caught by those that know better.
> 
> Ok.
> 
> DL>  > xntpd itself doesn't server/respond to any NTP queries, does it ?
> DL>  > You have to edit /etc/inetd.conf and enable time, correct ?
> DL>  
> DL>  Yes, xntpd does respond to NTP queries.
> 
> It answers to sntp queries. NTP daemon's listen on port 123, and
> xntpd doesn't do this. Should I install /usr/ports/net/ntp ?

Certainly it does. xntpd listens to port 123 for UDP NTP requests, and it
answers them. I've got various FreeBSD boxes running xntpd, answering NTP
queries for Windows boxes, Macs, and other FreeBSD boxes.

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I think the HP 4500N is the option for a couple of reasons. Most of that
vintage HP printers support Adobe Postscript level 2 and would work from any
of your systems. If you mount it on the FreeBSD box you have to have at
least two paths depending on whether the file is text or raw. FreeBSD
doesn't speak EMF or any of the other flavors the Windows wants to use. A
networked printer can handle both and you can build the appropriate filters
into your FreeBSD setups. Everything breaks apart on the little bits like
<cr><lf> versus <lf> and adding a <ff> at the end to make it eject a page. I
have used Win98 to send postscript to an HP printer; however, Win95 did not
deal with features such as duplexing very well. The 4500 doesn't duplex and
so that isn't a problem. I'm looking at 4000 for home and it will have
duplexing. My home network is all 100baseT and that is a different option.
At any rate, from persoanl experience, you could set use defaults to set
your printer up one way or the other, which worked on one system or the
other but not both.

Kent

Rod wrote:
> 
> Hi everyone!
> 
> For the company I work for (I got them to switch to FreeBSD, a win for
> us!) we have decided we need a workgroup colour laser printer.
> 
> After looking at what's out there that fits in our budget The HP 4500
> is our only choice.
> 
> However, I have read in Usenet that FreeBSD 3.0 does not support Parallel
> ECP(forgive my terminonlogy) bidirectional printers. (the 4500 has an ECP
> parallel port)
> 
> If that is accurate I was thinking I would connect the printer as a
> network printer and talk to it through tcp/ip. Which would be the HP 4500N
> model-- a little more expensive but worth it if I knew it would work.
> 
> Could someone give me some guidence?  If I can't use FreeBSD I could put
> it on a windoze machine but that is not desirable.  Worse, the new boss is
> really pushing that we switch to Red Hat as he feels it will support more
> equipment.
> 
> Thank you for your comments!
> 
> Rod
> 
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Good Sunday, everyone,

I'm running 3.1-STABLE on a Pentium 90 machine.

I have a clock that drifts badly (fast by almost 2 min per hour), although
after some reboots, it drifts just a few seconds per hour. Occasionally
after a reboot, I'll get 'calcru negative time' messages.

I've traced this problem to the following symptom: During boot, the line

    Timecounter "TSC"  frequency xxxxxxxxx Hz

is displayed. The routine that clocks the system seems more like a random
number generator, and I've seen the following values:

90.2 MHz
87.7 MHz
77.5 MHz

At 90.2 MHz, the system clock is pretty accurate.

At 87.7 MHz, the clock runs fast by over 90 seconds per hour.
(And 90MHz / 87.7 MHz * 3600 - 3600 = +94 seconds per hour, imagine that!)

At 77.5 MHz, the 'calcru negative time' errors pop up.

I know that, as reported on this list, the timekeeping code is broken, but
my question is this:

Is there somewhere I can tell the system to use a TSC frequency of 90000000
Hz and have it skip it's internal calibration? I don't envision changing
CPUs too often, so I'm not worried about hardcoding it...

--Dan

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From owner-freebsd-questions  Sun Feb 21 14:57:10 1999
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This isn't precisely a FreeBSD question, but as this list (and
current) had so much about the a.out to ELF conversion, I figured it
was the place to find someone who knew the answer.

I have been looking for precise specifications about ELF, a.out and
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about ELF, and almost nothing about a.out. (And nothing at all about
ECOFF, b.out[which the BFD documentation mentions,
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Could anyone point me to something a little more informative?

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Run XF86Setup and see if you have S3V chosen for the video card. The probe
option seems to work just fine. You may have to un-tar the S3V driver and
move it to the X11R6/bin directory. It was on the cdrom in the
XF86333/Servers directory. 

Kent

Rashmi Mahesh wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I have FreeBSD 2.2.5 at my home PC. I have been trying to increase the
> resolution of my screen from 640x480 to 800x600, but in vain. I tried
> changing the /etc/XF86Config file to reflect the new resolution.
> Somehow,
> startx does not seem to pick the information from the file. My adapter
> card
> (S3 VIRGE) which has 4 MB of memory supports 800x600 resolution at
> 256 colors (My other partition in the disk which has Windows 95, can
> boot
> and come up with that resolution!).
> 
> I also tried changing through xvidtune and xf86setup utilities. The log
> file
> startx.log indicates that 640x480 is the only supplied parameter. What
> is
> the correct procedure to change the video mode?
> 
> --
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I have a Pentium-90Mhz machine running with 80megs of Ram. Over the past
couple of days I have been messing around with the machine trying to get
it to do 'natd' with a 10base-t card and a 100base-t card and have had
nothing but problems. I have tried several different 10/100 base t cards
and every card i have tried gives same problem. 

I decided to just stick in 2 (10baseT) ethernet cards and I have been
transfering things over the last 30 minutes and it hasn't locked up
at all. So i think it works just fine the way that it is now, but I can't
figure out why it won't work with the 10base-t card and the 10/100 base-t
card together. 

It's really frustrating. I have been on the #freebsd channel on both
efnet and undernet and they weren't much help on this subject. I just
bought a 100base-t only hub and now i think i just lost an investment
because i can't seem to get FreeBSD 3.1-RELEASE to work. I have been
thinking about going back to like version 2.2.8 and see how it reacts
to this type of thing.

Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.

Brian



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> I'm attempting to create archive cds.  Basically I don't have enough disc
> space to setup multiple local source trees.  I would like to download all
> the source, docs, ports,  etc and then write my own cd-roms so when I do
> update and or create any boxes they will all have the same system.  As
> well as when I feel a it's time to update I could download the source
> etc and use the cd-rom to keep all machines uniform.  How can I do
> this and make the cd-roms bootable.  Is there a certain layout the boot
> floppy looks for??

I use mkisofs to create bootable ISO images for CD-ROMS. You can get the
packages
from www.freebsd.org. Take a look at the man page and the -b option for
defining
boot floppy image. You can use the "boot.flp" image from the FreeBSD
distribution
for your boot floppy image. The ISO image created by mkisofs can be written
to just
about any CD-R. I usually write my CD's on a M$Win box, but create the ISO
image on
the FreeBSD box.



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On Sat, Feb 20, 1999 at 05:20:49PM -0500, Julian C. Dunn wrote:
> >        I have SCSI controller Adaptec 1520 with chip AIC-6360 and FreeBSD
> >2.2.6 working with it now. In release notes for FreeBSD 3.1 this controller
> >not specified as supported device.
> >        Can 3.1 working with Adaptec 1520 or not?
> 
> No, it doesn't work with 3.x. I already had this experience. Someone is working
> on the AIC6360 code but there is no completion date set, or rather, nobody
> seems to know if it will be completed at all. Maybe some persuasion from all of
> us folks stuck with 6360 cards would help? :)
> 
> - Julian
> 

     The last I heard, the guy who is responsible (Brian Beatty)
had some moving problems that tied him up for a couple of months, then after
completing the move some of his computer equipment got damaged.
     I head about this is the mailing archives, but I'm not sure when or if
it will be started, but I think he said that someone who was interested in
picking up the project could contact him. (I don't remember his email
address either)

	-Rob


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On Sun, Feb 21, 1999 at 10:44:59AM +0000, Mark Ovens wrote:
> On Sat, Feb 20, 1999 at 05:44:28AM -0500, Rob wrote:
> > On Fri, Feb 19, 1999 at 09:45:38PM -0700, Brett Taylor wrote:
> > > 
> > > Maybe it's time to go buy a SCSI card...  :-P
> > 
> >      If I could just find a supported one that hasn't been discontinued
> > or cost more than $300 :(
> 
> Take a look a Diamond Fireport cards (http://www.diamondmm.com).
> They do narrow, wide and dual versions. Based on the Symbios 875
> chip they are supported by the ncr0 driver in FreeBSD. I've got a
> Fireport 40 (wide) and it works fine. Cost ~UKP70, so shouldn't be
> much more than ~US$100.
> 

     Thanks all for your responses.  I'll look into some of your suggestions,
though http://www.diamondmm.com doesn't seem to exist, though.  Is that the
actual address?
     -Rob


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On Sat, Feb 20, 1999 at 10:53:14PM +0200, Vallo Kallaste wrote:
> On Sat, Feb 20, 1999 at 05:44:28AM -0500, Rob <drifter@stratos.nospam.net> wrote:
> 
> > > Maybe it's time to go buy a SCSI card...  :-P
> > 
> >      If I could just find a supported one that hasn't been discontinued
> > or cost more than $300 :(
> 
> 300$ ? Retail prices here for NCR 53C875 are around 140$ and this 
> controller has fast-20 wide capability also. What else you need? 
> Well, it's PCI based, for ISA don't know, anyway the ISA seems to be 
> abandoned within next two years...

     Does that mean no more plug and play?

     -Rob


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you have been vary help full now i need to know how to delete user and or
give them root accass



thank you 
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Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai writes:
 > On 21-Feb-99 Crist J. Clark wrote:
 > > Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai wrote,
 > >> 
 > >> On 21-Feb-99 Crist J. Clark wrote:
 > >> > Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai wrote,
 > >> >> On 20-Feb-99 Crist J. Clark wrote:
 > > 
 > >> > This is good. Do you get any info? Perhaps I should have asked
 > >> > initially, why do you think that yppasswdd is hanging in the
 > >> > first place?
 > >> 
 > >> OK, ye know the boot process of starting daemons? rpc.yppasswdd takes
 > >> far too long to my taste, I mean 5-10 minutes? I have to CTRL-C it to
 > >> continue booting. 
 > > 
 > > You've been rebooting everytime? Yee-uck. Once you kill the attempt to
 > > start rpc.yppasswdd, does the booting complete normally? Is ypserv up
 > > and running?
 > 
 > I had to test a few rc scripts nonetheless as well as my new kernel, so it
 > was quite justified ;)
 > 
 > > If you want to try to get rpc.yppasswdd running, you can just type
 > > 'rpc.yppasswdd <flags>' at the command line as root. No need to reboot
 > > everytime. 
 > 
 > I know, I tried that and it appeared to work ok, but when trying to ypbind
 > it appeared _not_ to work. That was before I added the server to ypservers
 > 
 > I just tried it with localhost in ypservers, made the maps, and it still
 > hangs at boot up but it does work on the command line now though.
 > 
 > >> >> ypservers is empty since there's only one server, 
 > >> > 
 > >> > Does the master need to have itself listed in ypservers?
 > >> 
 > >> As far as I know/knew not. But as the follow-up mail from John points
 > >> out: it might be needed. Then remains the question how to put it in
 > >> there. As a hostname, a full host+domain name, an IP numeric?
 > > 
 > > I think any of these would work.
 > 
 > I tried it with localhost now.
 
Sorry I'm slow getting back. I use the hostname in
ypservers. "barnowl" and nothing else since it is the only server.

 > > I've been looking at the rpc.yppasswdd sources
 > > (/usr/src/usr.sbin/rpc.yppasswddd) and might have some guesses as to
 > > where it is hanging up.
 > > 
 > > It might hang when looking for the master server in the
 > > 'ypxfr_get_master()' call (note that this function is in
 > > /usr/src/libexec/ypxfr/ypxfr_misc.c... you know how long it took to
 > > find that? :). I wonder if that is the problem since ypservers is
 > > empty and it is not looking in the right place.
 > 
 > Well it shouldn't hang on that one now for the master not being present in
 > the ypservers file. It might however expect that the pushing of the maps to
 > slave servers be present.
 > 
 > /var/yp/Makefile has NOPUSH= "True" in the file.
 > 
 > > The problem I am having is that it is not too clear how NIS identifies
 > > which server is the master server. You are only supposed to run the
 > > Makefile on the master, but there is nothing I have found in it's
 > > comments or code that clearly states how the servers tell each other
 > > apart. Nor have I seen this in the documentation or source code. It
 > > makes me wonder if rpc.yppasswdd is not confused to and is looking for
 > > a master server that it cannot find, thus causing hangs.
 > 
 > That's what I am looking at. It might need ypxfrd along with it, but that
 > wouldn't make sense in a single server setup.
 > 
 
rpc.ypxfrd _is_ running on my server. I do not recall specifically
going about setting _that_ up when I started to do this, though.
A HA! A quick check of /etc/rc shows it starting there if it's flag is 
not "NO". Now going back to the system configuration file shows _no_
entry for ypxfrd so it will never be "NO". I'm not sure if I deleted
that line or what.;-)

I noticed that you were not running the server as a client to
itself. I do that as well. I do not really understand all of the ins
and outs for that but Hal Stern's book seems to say that it is
desireable so as to handle possible mail problems.

John



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Here's a tip for people who allow an initial flush of anger or
dismay at some public article to provoke them into retaliatory
mode:  don't do it.  It's just too easy to make a fool of
yourself and it's even worse if you do it in public.  If you
really must lash out at some mongrel who has offended you, at
least do it in private email -- that way, you get to avoid
making an ass of yourself in public; you avoid the risk of
annoying other people who might then start ignoring your other
posts; and you might even get the problem sorted out with the
other person.

And here's a request for *anybody* who wants to flame me, either
about this article or about anything else I have written (or
even about my hair colour, religious affiliations, or gender):
please leave the list for its purpose and flame me as much as
you like in private email.


Mark Ovens writes:

> Why have I been singled out for a lecture here Greg? You haven't
> Cc:'d the 2 other respondents. Your comments could equally well
> apply to them also.

Mark either has a severely broken mailer or sadly deficient
vision -- all the recipients of his original article (two
individuals and this list) were Cc'd in the message that he is
complaining about -- I know this for certain because I just
checked the copy that was delivered to me by the list.

As for why my message was addressed to Mark, that was because I
was responding to something he wrote with a bit of extra
information.  It's generally considered the normal way to do
these things.

> > First, please trim the irrelevant elements of posts that you
> > respond to (see the regular article about how to get the best
> > from the list if this is a puzzle).
> 
> I have read the regular article, and no, it isn't a puzzle.
> 
> I take it that by "irrelevant elements" you mean the original
> poster's .sig, since Charon back-quoted the entire message, except
> for the .sig, as well.

Bear in mind that, because my message was directed to the list,
its intended audience was the list at large.  If it was just
something for Mark, I'd have written privately to him.  The fact
remains that, out of 37 lines in the body of his message, four
were a relevant quotation and attribution; four were Mark's
perfectly reasonable response and a useful line of white space;
three lines were an irrelevant bit of quoted material (because
there was no comment on it); twelve lines were a completely
useless quote of the ridiculous signature from the original
message; four lines were the unsubscribe instructions (which
also appear at the end, of course); and nine lines were Mark's
own excessively long signature.  It's not hard to guess what
parts I think should have been trimmed.

> > > How are you editing the password file? If you are just editing
> > > /etc/passwd it won't work. Use vipw(8). When you save and exit vipw
> > > re-builds the passwd database.
> > 
> > It might be useful to explain why editing /etc/passwd is no use,
> > since that has been for many years (and still is, in many cases)
> > the canonical way to do these things.
> 
> My reply was pretty much the same as Jim Mock's yet I don't see
> Jim's name in the To: or Cc: fields of your e-mail.

Jim's article had not arrived here when I replied to Mark's and
in any case, if anything I said was relevant to him, he had the
opportunity to read my response on the list.  He was not one of
the parties to the particular message that I was responding to.

> It didn't seem necessary to go into detail of how the password file
> mechanism works. The original poster only wanted to know how to
> change his default shell and mentioned that he had tried editing
> /etc/passwd and it didn't work.

This is the really silly part of the article.  All I did was
provide some additional background information for the benefit
of both the original poster and for current readers of the list
and future readers who might peruse the archives.  There was
nothing wrong with what Mark first wrote; I just added to it.
This is hardly something to get upset about.  We all find there
are times when somebody else can add something useful to what we
have said.

But a response like this only serves to make the real point of
the exercise (which is to help people better understand and use
FreeBSD) disappear under somebody's wounded pride.

> > FreeBSD (like many other modern systems) provides both "shadow"
> > passwords and a variety of extra fields that are not part of the
> > traditional /etc/passwd file.  All this magic is contained in
> > the new passwd file (/etc/master.passwd) and this is the file
> > that must be edited (using vipw) for changes to take effect.
> > 
> > After the editing is done, vipw does what is needed to update
> > both /etc/passwd and the hashed database files -- which are the
> > files that are really accessed by all the lookup routines.
> > 
> > RTFM for a fuller description, starting with passwd(5).
> 
> I have RTFM, quite recently as well. Due to a utility truncating
> /etc/passwd, /etc/master.passwd and /etc/groups to zero bytes I
> had to figure out how to repair the damage.

Everybody on the list is well aware of the problems Mark had in
this regard.  But the RTFM comment was not directed to Mark, and
was not one of those RTFM remarks that are a substitute for
providing any useful information.  It was a helpful pointer, for
the benefit of the original poster and anybody else who wanted
more information, to the actual source of further reading on the
topic in the event that my couple of paragraphs above might have
whetted their appetite for further study of this topic.

I apologize to any readers who wish this little controversy had
not erupted and assure you that I really mean it when I ask
people to address any further flames direct to me in private
rather than to the list.

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I only want to comment on two items here:

> (3) Technical Support
> 
> If I have to pay for technical support, it rather ruins the effect for a free 
> OS. I've noticed that several technical questions important to me have gone 
> effectively unanswered on the FreeBSD lists. I have no idea if Linux groups or 
> vendors might be better in this regard, or how the cost of paid support 
> compares, but it's something I would want to know more about for future 
> decisions.

A free OS is still a lot cheaper than one you pay for and with
most of the ones you pay for the technical support costs even
more than the system.  Compare BSDI's prices for upgrades only
versus various levels of technical support.

Technical questions often go unanswered even when you pay for
the answers.  Of course, you do have the option of asking for
your money back, although this may not be easy to accomplish.

I have no information on Linux support since I have no interest
in Linux.

> (4) Saleable skills
> 
> Installed base per se doesn't matter to me when I choose an OS for my own 
> server. But if I want to do work in the outside world, being familiar with 
> Linux might be a big plus, especially as the Linux market share increases.

Anybody with real skills won't have any trouble finding work
with BSD systems.  This is not going to change.  (Of course,
most of the people looking for work don't have real skills and
they will have difficulties of one sort or another anyway.)

-- 
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>i need to know how to delete user and or
>give them root accass

To delete a user use 'rmuser'.

To give someone root access, make them a member of group 'wheel'.

--Dan

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I am very interrested for FreeBSD, but can you explain some thinks:
- It is compatible vith a Diamond V550 on AGP Bus?
- How to learn for using FreeBSD if I have never works on Unix System
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- What is the difference between Linux and FreeBSD

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getting ready to install a new copy of freebsd 4.4   2.2.8
on a 200 mhz with 64megs of ram.
going to set it up as a private server using latest apache or netscape
server. Can any one give me so pointers to make this
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Hello,
Presently we are making attendence servers for the university using FreeBSD's
kernel, and in order to simplfy the process, we are looking to clone the disk.
We already do Linux clones for our print servers, and so we are pretty sure we
have the cloning process down.  (tarring up the files, and then untarring them
to the other disk)  Since, we (think we) have this down, the only thing left is
how do you make the newly cloned drive bootable.  In Linux we just boot with a
LILO boot disk, and at the boot: prompt we type mount root=/dev/hda1  And then
log in as root, and type LILO to install LILO.  But seeing as FreeBSD doesn't
use LILO, but rather Bootstrap, how do we go about doing this?  Also, if we are
actually unclear on the cloning process, if someone could kindly inform us of
this as well.  Thank you very much for your time!
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rmuser  will delete the user, it will prompt you for info.

Robert Trosen wrote:

> you have been vary help full now i need to know how to delete user and or
> give them root accass
>
> thank you
> robert
> robert@neteze.com or trosen@neteze.com
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hi,

I just installed from CDROM 2.2.8 release of freeBSD. I went thru the novice
installation.

Everything installs with no problem. When I go to boot the system from the
harddrive with the new system in it I get the following.

Sc0: VGA color <16 virtual consoles, flags= 0x0>

Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode

fault virtual address 		= 0xefc00000
fault code				= supervisor read, page not present
instruction pointer		= 0x18:0xf01eee33
stack pointer 			= 0x10:0xefbffefc
frame pointer			= 0x10:0xefbffefc
code segment			= base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type0x1b
					= DPL 0,pres 1,def 32, gran 1
processor flags			= interupt enabled, resume , IOPL=0
current process			= 0()
interupt mask 			= net tty bio cam
panic: page fault


I am running a pentium 75, 64MB ram with a 4 gig SCSI and cdrom + floppy
drive, it is an
adaptec controller and a 3com ehternet card. it is a system the once had
2.2.1 freebsd on it. then a windows NT system and now I an wiping the disk
and place 2.2.8 on it. The other freebsd installs were done with someone
experienced. This is my first installation of FreeBSD.

I chose all the defaults when setting things up and I allow the system to
autoconfigre the drive slices and the swap space.

Any help as to what I am doing wrong is appreciated. I am going on 2.5 weeks
and a lot of documentation and I still haven't gotten past this problem.

Thanks

Sean




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On Sun, Feb 21, 1999 at 08:51:01PM -0500, MPN wrote:
> I have a problem.  I'm running FreeBSD 2.2.6.  Currently I'm running
> RoadRunner Cable ISP.  I have a home network of about 6 computers which want
> to get onto the internet through my FreeBSD server.  I'm trying to find a
> good proxy for FreeBSD.  Right now I'm using Wingate on a Win95 machine.  I
> need a program similar to this.  What the problem with using packet
> forwarding is that Road Runner's firewalls block all IP packets that don't
> have their IP in the source header.  So, I need a program like Wingate which
> will do this translation and let my network see the internet.  Any help is
> greatly appreciated.  Thanks in advance.

natd should do what you want. Try man natd for starters. You'll also need to
compile a kernel with the options IPFIREWALL and IPDIVERT and set a few things
in rc.conf, namely natd_enable, natd_interface, and gateway_enable. 

If you're using RoadRunner, you probably also need to set up DHCP. Take a look
at http://home.san.rr.com/freebsd/dhcp.html

Chris


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I looked at the man page for NATD.  It makes sense, for the most part.  =
My
question is:  What would be the NAT Rule to set up for the following:
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I got FreeBSD 3.1 and when i'm going to install it this error appears:
BIN.INF: .INF file is corrupt

I downloaded this file two times again and won't work
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In the last episode (Feb 20), Greg Black said:
> > The only way I know to ID a compressed tape is to put it in a DDS
> > drive which doesn't support compression and see what happens.  Same
> > for Irix and FreeBSD.
> 
> One problem with the method is that, on several BSD variants and with
> at least two brands of DDS-1 (no compression) drives, what happens is
> a system lockup.  This is the only thing (apart from my own
> stupidity) that has ever forced me to reboot a BSD system.

I've got an old DDS-1 drive that likes locking up on compressed tapes. 
If I listen to the drive during the "lockup", it sounds like it's
retensioning the tape; seeking BOT to EOT and back again over and over. 
there's nothing BSD can do at this point; the drive is completely
unusable. I usually end up having to open the case and unplug the power
from the tape drive.  The entire machine reboots maybe 1 out 10 times I
do this.  The other 9 times everything goes back to normal and I can
continue using the drive (with a different tape of course :)

sa0 at ahc0 bus 0 target 3 lun 0
sa0: <ARCHIVE Python 25947-XXX 2.49> Removable Sequential Access SCSI-2 device 
sa0: 5.0MB/s transfers (5.0MHz, offset 15)

	-Dan Nelson
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At 08:40 AM 2/21/99 -0800, you wrote:

>Does your directory heirarchy resemble:
>
>C:\
>  \FREEBSD\
>          \BIN
>          \MANPAGES
>          \TOOLS

Yep.  Even made sure everything was in caps, or lowercase, to see if that
made a difference.  But no.  Verified that the boot-floppy kernel could
find all the relevant files.  However, it still won't install!


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Rob wrote,
> On Sat, Feb 20, 1999 at 10:53:14PM +0200, Vallo Kallaste wrote:
> > On Sat, Feb 20, 1999 at 05:44:28AM -0500, Rob <drifter@stratos.nospam.net> wrote:
> > 
> > > > Maybe it's time to go buy a SCSI card...  :-P
> > > 
> > >      If I could just find a supported one that hasn't been discontinued
> > > or cost more than $300 :(
> > 
> > 300$ ? Retail prices here for NCR 53C875 are around 140$ and this 
> > controller has fast-20 wide capability also. What else you need? 
> > Well, it's PCI based, for ISA don't know, anyway the ISA seems to be 
> > abandoned within next two years...
> 
>      Does that mean no more plug and play?

We can all hope.
-- 
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You may want to try the linux mailing list or newsgroups if ...

At 02:57 PM 2/21/99 -0800, Andrew Sherrod wrote:
>This isn't precisely a FreeBSD question, but as this list (and
>current) had so much about the a.out to ELF conversion, I figured it
>was the place to find someone who knew the answer.
>
>I have been looking for precise specifications about ELF, a.out and
>COFF formats. I found a good deal of info about COFF, but nothing much
>about ELF, and almost nothing about a.out. (And nothing at all about
>ECOFF, b.out[which the BFD documentation mentions,
>and I have seen nowhere else...],or SOM [which the
>as documentation mentions...])
>
>Could anyone point me to something a little more informative?
>
>Thanks.
>
>
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Upgrading from FBSD3.0 to 3.1succeeded.
Old source tree was deleted.
New source tree (ssys) was installed by sysinstall with ftp to
"ftp.au.freebsd.org".
When making a custom kernel, "make" produced the following
error message: (steps in Handbook are followed.)

syscons.o: In function 'sckbdprobe':
syscons.o(.text+0x29a): undefined reference to 'kbd_configure'
syscons.o(.text+0x29a): undefined reference to 'kbd_allocate'
syscons.o(.text+0x29a): undefined reference to 'kbd_get_keybard'
syscons.o In function 'sc_attach_unit':
syscons.o(.text+0x29a): undefined reference to 'kbdsw'
......... more ........
*** Error code 1

Stop.

Attached is the configuration file "mykernel".
Thanks in advace for any tips.

Minxian Yang

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#
# GENERIC -- Generic machine with WD/AHx/NCR/BTx family disks
#
# For more information read the handbook part System Administration -> 
# Configuring the FreeBSD Kernel -> The Configuration File. 
# The handbook is available in /usr/share/doc/handbook or online as
# latest version from the FreeBSD World Wide Web server 
# <URL:http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/>
#
# An exhaustive list of options and more detailed explanations of the 
# device lines is present in the ./LINT configuration file. If you are 
# in doubt as to the purpose or necessity of a line, check first in LINT.
#
#	$Id: GENERIC,v 1.143.2.2 1999/02/15 02:50:07 des Exp $

machine		"i386"
#cpu		"I386_CPU"
#cpu		"I486_CPU"
cpu		"I586_CPU"
#cpu		"I686_CPU"
ident		GENERIC
maxusers	32

options		MATH_EMULATE		#Support for x87 emulation
options		INET			#InterNETworking
options		FFS			#Berkeley Fast Filesystem
options		FFS_ROOT		#FFS usable as root device [keep this!]
options		MFS			#Memory Filesystem
options		MFS_ROOT		#MFS usable as root device, "MFS" req'ed
#options		NFS			#Network Filesystem
#options		NFS_ROOT		#NFS usable as root device, "NFS" req'ed
#options		MSDOSFS			#MSDOS Filesystem
options		"CD9660"		#ISO 9660 Filesystem
options		"CD9660_ROOT"		#CD-ROM usable as root. "CD9660" req'ed
options		PROCFS			#Process filesystem
#options		"COMPAT_43"		#Compatible with BSD 4.3 [KEEP THIS!]
#options		SCSI_DELAY=15000	#Be pessimistic about Joe SCSI device
options		UCONSOLE		#Allow users to grab the console
options		FAILSAFE		#Be conservative
options		USERCONFIG		#boot -c editor
options		VISUAL_USERCONFIG	#visual boot -c editor

config		kernel	root on wd0

# To make an SMP kernel, the next two are needed
#options	SMP			# Symmetric MultiProcessor Kernel
#options	APIC_IO			# Symmetric (APIC) I/O
# Optionally these may need tweaked, (defaults shown):
#options	NCPU=2			# number of CPUs
#options	NBUS=4			# number of busses
#options	NAPIC=1			# number of IO APICs
#options	NINTR=24		# number of INTs

controller	isa0
controller	eisa0
controller	pci0

controller	fdc0	at isa? port "IO_FD1" bio irq 6 drq 2
disk		fd0	at fdc0 drive 0
#disk		fd1	at fdc0 drive 1

options		"CMD640"	# work around CMD640 chip deficiency
controller	wdc0	at isa? port "IO_WD1" bio irq 14
disk		wd0	at wdc0 drive 0
#disk		wd1	at wdc0 drive 1

#controller	wdc1	at isa? port "IO_WD2" bio irq 15
#disk		wd2	at wdc1 drive 0
#disk		wd3	at wdc1 drive 1

options		ATAPI		#Enable ATAPI support for IDE bus
options		ATAPI_STATIC	#Don't do it as an LKM
#device		acd0		#IDE CD-ROM
#device		wfd0		#IDE Floppy (e.g. LS-120)

# A single entry for any of these controllers (ncr, ahb, ahc) is
# sufficient for any number of installed devices.
#controller	ncr0
#controller	ahb0
#controller	ahc0
#controller	isp0

# This controller offers a number of configuration options, too many to
# document here  - see the LINT file in this directory and look up the
# dpt0 entry there for much fuller documentation on this.
#controller      dpt0

#controller	adv0	at isa? port ? cam irq ?
#controller	adw0
#controller	bt0	at isa? port ? cam irq ?
#controller	aha0	at isa? port ? cam irq ?
#controller	aic0	at isa? port 0x340 bio irq 11

#controller	scbus0

#device		da0

#device		sa0

#device		pass0

#device		cd0	#Only need one of these, the code dynamically grows

#device		wt0	at isa? port 0x300 bio irq 5 drq 1
#device		mcd0	at isa? port 0x300 bio irq 10

#controller	matcd0	at isa? port 0x230 bio

#device		scd0	at isa? port 0x230 bio

# atkbdc0 controlls both the keyboard and the PS/2 mouse
#controller	atkbdc0	at isa? port IO_KBD tty
#device		atkbd0	at isa? tty irq 1
#device		psm0	at isa? tty irq 12

device		vga0	at isa? port ? conflicts

# splash screen/screen saver
pseudo-device	splash

# syscons is the default console driver, resembling an SCO console
device		sc0	at isa? tty
# Enable this and PCVT_FREEBSD for pcvt vt220 compatible console driver
#device		vt0	at isa? tty
#options		XSERVER			# support for X server
#options		FAT_CURSOR		# start with block cursor
# If you have a ThinkPAD, uncomment this along with the rest of the PCVT lines
#options		PCVT_SCANSET=2		# IBM keyboards are non-std

device		npx0	at isa? port IO_NPX irq 13

#
# Laptop support (see LINT for more options)
#
#device		apm0    at isa?	disable	flags 0x31 # Advanced Power Management

# PCCARD (PCMCIA) support
#controller	card0
#device		pcic0	at card?
#device		pcic1	at card?

device		sio0	at isa? port "IO_COM1" flags 0x10 tty irq 4
device		sio1	at isa? port "IO_COM2" tty irq 3
#device		sio2	at isa? disable port "IO_COM3" tty irq 5
#device		sio3	at isa? disable port "IO_COM4" tty irq 9

# Parallel port
device		ppc0	at isa? port? net irq 7
controller	ppbus0
device		nlpt0	at ppbus?
#device		plip0	at ppbus?
#device		ppi0	at ppbus?
#controller	vpo0	at ppbus?

# Order is important here due to intrusive probes, do *not* alphabetize
# this list of network interfaces until the probes have been fixed.
# Right now it appears that the ie0 must be probed before ep0. See
# revision 1.20 of this file.
#device ax0
#device de0
device fxp0
#device mx0
#device pn0
#device rl0
#device tl0
#device tx0
#device vr0
#device vx0
#device wb0
#device xl0

#device ed0 at isa? port 0x280 net irq 10 iomem 0xd8000
#device ie0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq 10 iomem 0xd0000
#device ep0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq 10
#device ex0 at isa? port? net irq?
#device fe0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq ?
#device le0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq 5 iomem 0xd0000
#device lnc0 at isa? port 0x280 net irq 10 drq 0
#device ze0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq 10 iomem 0xd8000
#device zp0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq 10 iomem 0xd8000
#device cs0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq ?

pseudo-device	loop
pseudo-device	ether
pseudo-device	sl	1
pseudo-device	ppp	1
pseudo-device	tun	1
pseudo-device	pty	16
pseudo-device	gzip		# Exec gzipped a.out's

# KTRACE enables the system-call tracing facility ktrace(2).
# This adds 4 KB bloat to your kernel, and slightly increases
# the costs of each syscall.
options		KTRACE		#kernel tracing

# This provides support for System V shared memory and message queues.
#
options		SYSVSHM
options		SYSVMSG

#  The `bpfilter' pseudo-device enables the Berkeley Packet Filter.  Be
#  aware of the legal and administrative consequences of enabling this
#  option.  The number of devices determines the maximum number of
#  simultaneous BPF clients programs runnable.
#pseudo-device	bpfilter 4	#Berkeley packet filter


# USB support
#controller    uhci0
#controller    ohci0
#controller    usb0
#
# for the moment we have to specify the priorities of the device
# drivers explicitly by the ordering in the list below. This will
# be changed in the future.
#
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#device        ukbd0
#device        ulpt0
#device        uhub0
#device        ucom0
#device        umodem0
#device        hid0
#device        ugen0

#
#options       USB_DEBUG
#options       USBVERBOSE

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i'm new to freebsd too, and heres what i did to install some packages:

put the package (in  tar.gz or whatever format) in a dir in /usr/ports

i usually create a dir with the same name as the port
ex: if i want to install pine, make a dir called pine

once the compressed file is in that dir, uncompress it
type gunzip, tar -xvf, etc

once the file is untarred, it usually sets up some dir and other files

type make
a bunch of stuff will happen

then type make install
a bunch if stuff will happen

port should be installed now.
there is a coummand that will update everything and allow
you to start your new port, but i can't remember it.

oh well, someone else will surely now what the command is.
but thats what i do and it appears to work.
(you can restart, that will update everything, but thats no way to go)

sometimes a port will require another port
be installed, and, if possible, freebsd will try
to install that port, so leave the cd in. make/make install
will look there for the missing port.

hope i could be of some help
-aaron



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> I have just downloaded Xfree86 3.3.3 and now want to install it.
> 
> I believe that you with packages that are not on the ports collection you
> can't use the pkg_add command.  How do I install?
> I am using FreeBSD-3.0 and the packages come in .tgz format.
> 
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hello:

 after starting ppp with the command:
  ppp -ddial MyIsp

 how do i disconnect? i can't seem to find this in 
the man pages...

-thanks
aaron




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On Sun, 21 Feb 1999, Donald P. Dahlman wrote:

> rmuser  will delete the user, it will prompt you for info.
> 
> Robert Trosen wrote:
> 
> > you have been vary help full now i need to know how to delete user and or
> > give them root accass

You can use su and sudo (from the ports collection) to give the user a
root shell or allow them to excute a single command as root, respectively. 

> >
> > thank you
> > robert
> > robert@neteze.com or trosen@neteze.com
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On Sun, Feb 21, 1999 at 03:20:14PM -0600, Rod wrote:
> Hi everyone!
> 
> For the company I work for (I got them to switch to FreeBSD, a win for
> us!) we have decided we need a workgroup colour laser printer.
> 
> After looking at what's out there that fits in our budget The HP 4500
> is our only choice.
> 
> However, I have read in Usenet that FreeBSD 3.0 does not support Parallel
> ECP(forgive my terminonlogy) bidirectional printers. (the 4500 has an ECP 
> parallel port) 
> 
> If that is accurate I was thinking I would connect the printer as a
> network printer and talk to it through tcp/ip. Which would be the HP 4500N
> model-- a little more expensive but worth it if I knew it would work.

We have HP 5M and 5M color laser printers connected to FreeBSD via 
10Base-T Ethernet. IMO, The performance gain over a parallel interface 
is well worth the extra dollars! The HP laser printers have worked 
great -- even the ones located 2,700 miles away at another facility.

Several people complained about the "fumes" from the HP 5M color laser 
printers giving them headaches, which is another very good reason to 
use the Ethernet connection -- locating the printers far enough from 
users is trivial with Ethernet.
-- 
Regards,
Norman C. Rice, Jr.

> Could someone give me some guidence?  If I can't use FreeBSD I could put
> it on a windoze machine but that is not desirable.  Worse, the new boss is
> really pushing that we switch to Red Hat as he feels it will support more
> equipment.
> 
> Thank you for your comments!
> 
> Rod


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On 21 Feb 1999 20:39:09 -0500, in sentex.lists.freebsd.questions you wrote:

>getting ready to install a new copy of freebsd 4.4   2.2.8
>on a 200 mhz with 64megs of ram.
>going to set it up as a private server using latest apache or netscape
>server. Can any one give me so pointers to make this
>as easy as posible.
>Thanks.

Two resources are http://www.freebsd.org (see the handbook) and
http://www.dejanews.com.  You can do a power search through the 'forums'
mailing.freebsd.*,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.*.  Through these groups you will
find the answers / clues to practically any question you will run into.

	---Mike
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On Mon, 22 Feb 1999, Lycorne wrote:

> I am very interrested for FreeBSD, but can you explain some thinks:
> - It is compatible vith a Diamond V550 on AGP Bus?

It is compatible with this card, and I also believe that XFree86 (the
software that gives FreeBSD a graphical interface) also supports it.

> - How to learn for using FreeBSD if I have never works on Unix System
> (Books...)

You can use the documentation at www.freebsd.org and I recommend "The
Complete FreeBSD", by Greg Lehey, available at www.cdrom.com.

> - What is the difference between Linux and FreeBSD

Linux is a kernel originaly developped by Linus Torvalds, which has been
contributed to by people all over the internet. FreeBSD is a complete UNIX
system directly derived from 4.4BSD, also contributed to by people all
over the internet. 

> 
> Think you for your answer
> Best regards.
> 
> Frederic Cramois
> Paris
> 
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try

killall ppp

Keith


On 22-Feb-99 trout2 wrote:
> 
> hello:
> 
>  after starting ppp with the command:
>   ppp -ddial MyIsp
> 
>  how do i disconnect? i can't seem to find this in 
> the man pages...
> 
> -thanks
> aaron
> 
> 
> 
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On Mon, Feb 22, 1999 at 02:14:50PM +1100, Minxian Yang wrote:
> Upgrading from FBSD3.0 to 3.1succeeded.
> Old source tree was deleted.
> New source tree (ssys) was installed by sysinstall with ftp to
> "ftp.au.freebsd.org".
> When making a custom kernel, "make" produced the following
> error message: (steps in Handbook are followed.)
> 
> syscons.o: In function 'sckbdprobe':
> syscons.o(.text+0x29a): undefined reference to 'kbd_configure'
> syscons.o(.text+0x29a): undefined reference to 'kbd_allocate'
> syscons.o(.text+0x29a): undefined reference to 'kbd_get_keybard'
> syscons.o In function 'sc_attach_unit':
> syscons.o(.text+0x29a): undefined reference to 'kbdsw'
> ......... more ........
> *** Error code 1

Read /usr/src/UPDATING, particularly the part that refers you to
http://www.freebsd.org/~yokota/sc_update.txt.

Chris


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On Sun, 21 Feb 1999, trout2 wrote:

> 
> hello:
> 
>  after starting ppp with the command:
>   ppp -ddial MyIsp

You have to have a "set server ..." line in your config file, like "set
server 3000 mypasswd". Then you have to type "pppctl -p mypasswd localhost
3000 close" to close the connection.  

> 
>  how do i disconnect? i can't seem to find this in 
> the man pages...
> 
> -thanks
> aaron
> 
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CAn i write a program using assembly to read/write mster.passwd file
i would not use any API to perform such a action!

is that possible?

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Thanks Greg.

This is one of the reasons I advise people to reply to the list instead of 
just privately.  My mistakes are caught this way.  Cheers.

On 21 Feb 99, at 12:13, Greg Black wrote:

> Don't follow this advice:
> 
> > Most people now use a serial number of the form YYYYMMDDHHMM.  And the 
> > refresh rate determines how often the secondary will check the primary for 
> > a more recent serial number.  Here's an example of these values from my 
> > website:
> > 
> > @       IN SOA  mydomain.com.   root.freebsd.mydomain.com.        (
> >                              199902210845  ; Serial
> >                              3600    ; Refresh
> >                              300     ; Retry
> >                              3600000 ; Expire
> >                              3600  ) ; Minimum
> > 
> > The above shows that I modifed the zone files on 21 Feb 1999 at 08:45.  
> 
> As any book on the subject will tell you and as the sources to
> the version of named provided with FreeBSD will confirm, this
> serial number is contained in a 32-bit integer.  (Currently,
> it's an "unsigned int", but it's still only 32 bits.)
> 
> This means that the maximum possible value that can be used is
> 4294967295, about fifty times smaller than 199902210845.  In
> fact, since there may be implementations out there using signed
> integers, the safe maximum for sensible purposes would probably
> be 2147483647.  Bear in mind that, even if you do use a system
> that stores these serial numbers in a 64-bit integer, other name
> servers out there will be using 32-bit values for years and so
> simply won't interpret your huge values correctly.  The most
> likely outcome is that all values greater than 4294967295 will
> be quietly truncated so that they become 4294967295, thus
> defeating the point of incrementing the serial number.
> 
> And the idea that you might need hundreds or thousands of serial
> numbers in a single day is utterly absurd.  Even using more than
> 10 is pretty weird.  However, if you wish to use this date-based
> serial number format (which many people do, including me), it's
> more than enough to allow four digits for the year, two for the
> month, two for the day and two for a serial number on that day
> (which allows 100 versions per day).  So, for example, the first
> serial number that I'd use today would be 1999022100, with the
> final 00 gradually cycling up towards 99.  Even with signed
> 32-bit integers, this still gives you the possibility of 100
> different serial numbers per day until the end of the year 2147.


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I'm doing a make world for 3.1 after running cvsup to get it.  I did a 
"make world -j4 2>&1 > makeworld.log" to run it.  After about 333k, I get 
the following at the end of the log.  It makes no sense ot me.  Cheers.

cc -O -pipe -elf -Wall -Wno-unused -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -c 
/usr/src/lib/csu/i386-elf/crt1.c -o crt1.o
cc -O -pipe -elf -Wall -Wno-unused -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -c 
/usr/src/lib/csu/i386-elf/crtbegin.c -o crtbegin.o
cc -fpic -DPIC -O -pipe -elf -Wall -Wno-unused -
I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -c /usr/src/lib/csu/i386-elf/crtbegin.c -
o crtbegin.So
/usr/src/lib/csu/i386-elf/crtbegin.c:30: section attributes are not 
supported for this target
/usr/src/lib/csu/i386-elf/crtbegin.c:31: section attributes are not 
supported for this target
/usr/src/lib/csu/i386-elf/crtbegin.c:30: section attributes are not 
supported for this target
/usr/src/lib/csu/i386-elf/crtbegin.c:31: section attributes are not 
supported for this target
{standard input}: Assembler messages:
{standard input}:73: Error: Unknown pseudo-op:  `.section'
*** Error code 1
{standard input}: Assembler messages:
{standard input}:95: Error: Unknown pseudo-op:  `.section'
*** Error code 1
{standard input}: Assembler messages:
{standard input}:77: Error: Unknown pseudo-op:  `.previous'
*** Error code 1
3 errors
*** Error code 2
1 error
*** Error code 2
1 error
*** Error code 2
1 error
*** Error code 2

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try kick "-j4" options from make options list !

i hope it help!

I had had the same problem, i got it work when i kick "-j4" from the
options!

Dan Langille wrote:
> 
> I'm doing a make world for 3.1 after running cvsup to get it.  I did a
> "make world -j4 2>&1 > makeworld.log" to run it.  After about 333k, I get
> the following at the end of the log.  It makes no sense ot me.  Cheers.
> 
> cc -O -pipe -elf -Wall -Wno-unused -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -c
> /usr/src/lib/csu/i386-elf/crt1.c -o crt1.o
> cc -O -pipe -elf -Wall -Wno-unused -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -c
> /usr/src/lib/csu/i386-elf/crtbegin.c -o crtbegin.o
> cc -fpic -DPIC -O -pipe -elf -Wall -Wno-unused -
> I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -c /usr/src/lib/csu/i386-elf/crtbegin.c -
> o crtbegin.So
> /usr/src/lib/csu/i386-elf/crtbegin.c:30: section attributes are not
> supported for this target
> /usr/src/lib/csu/i386-elf/crtbegin.c:31: section attributes are not
> supported for this target
> /usr/src/lib/csu/i386-elf/crtbegin.c:30: section attributes are not
> supported for this target
> /usr/src/lib/csu/i386-elf/crtbegin.c:31: section attributes are not
> supported for this target
> {standard input}: Assembler messages:
> {standard input}:73: Error: Unknown pseudo-op:  `.section'
> *** Error code 1
> {standard input}: Assembler messages:
> {standard input}:95: Error: Unknown pseudo-op:  `.section'
> *** Error code 1
> {standard input}: Assembler messages:
> {standard input}:77: Error: Unknown pseudo-op:  `.previous'
> *** Error code 1
> 3 errors
> *** Error code 2
> 1 error
> *** Error code 2
> 1 error
> *** Error code 2
> 1 error
> *** Error code 2
> 
> --
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Although you may consider yourself an all knowing, powerful, visionary, I
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Since no one has tackled this yet...

Patrick Seal wrote,
> I'm trying to restrict the messeges that fill up my messeges log file into
> a sudo log. This is what I have so far:
> 
> *.notice;kern.debug;mail.crit                   /var/log/messages
> 
> !sudo
> *.*                             /var/log/sudo
> 
> But sudo stuff still goes into messeges as well as sudo.  How can I
> restrict sudo stuff from the messeges file? I've tried sudo.none but that
> doesn't seem to help, and the man page isn't much help either.

I am not completely familiar with 'sudo,' but my _guess_ is that sudo
messages are part of the 'auth' or 'authpriv' facilities. The
'*.notice' entry is probably what is routing all of those messages to
/var/log/messages. To stop all sudo messages from going to messages,
add 'auth.none' to the end of the list. To direct them as you want,

auth.*						  /var/log/sudo

Now, again, I am not sure how sudo has logging built into it. But this
is a guess and a little more info on syslog.conf. See, 'man
syslog.conf.' In fact, the example on the manpage talks about doing
'authpriv' in a special way.
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On Sun, 21 Feb 1999 at 23:39:11 -0500, Brandon Fosdick wrote:
> I'm using cvsup to keep my source and ports up to date. How do I
> keep it from updating the non-US ports? Where do I find a list of
> all the package names for use in the supfile?
>

Take a look at /usr/share/examples/cvsup/ports-supfile.  It's well
commented, and includes all of the individual collections that make up
ports-all.

Hope this helps,

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I want to write output from eg. syslog and some scripts to a virtual
console, but I can only shift to consoles with a running getty.

If I set the right stty-mode to avoid staircase effects, getty switches it
back if I happen to press a key.

So I would like to have a virtual console just for logging.

I'm sorry to say, but I do it all the time at work with linux...

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On 21 Feb 1999 Greg Lehey wrote:
>It shows that FreeBSD
>outperforms Linux by about 50% in the areas which they have examined,
>but for some reason comes to the conclusion that, though FreeBSD has
>all the advantages, one should choose Linux.  In particular, they
>write:
>
>  FreeBSD UNIX-Advantages, Disadvantages
>
>    FreeBSD UNIX has a similar story to Linux, but without the
>    commercial aggregators of the code or the honor system that
>    prevents commercial vendors from advancing the OS in unique
>    ways. Thus, to base a product on FreeBSD eliminates the cost of
>    the OS entirely. On the downside, though, there quickly becomes no
>    such thing as standard FreeBSD. Every vendor ends up with a
>    proprietary operating system based on FreeBSD, but not the
>    identical OS. 

[...]

>I disagree with the statement " Every vendor ends up with a
>proprietary operating system based on FreeBSD"   The fact is that
>there *is* only one FreeBSD, whereas there are multiple versions of
>Linux.  I'm not sure what the author was thinking of when he said
>this.

If you take the previous paragraph, explaining the advantages of the
"openness" of Linux, it starts falling into place.  Their argument is
based on the fact that in Linux, developpers are "honour-bound" to
make available their advancements.  They apply the "Red Hat, Cladera,
SuSe, Slackware, Debian, etc" model to FreeBSD, forgetting that FreeBSD
is much more centralized than Linux for its distribution base.  They
seem to consider this an advantage to the Linux community that any
vendor could take the code and start hacking at their own distribution,
and as you said yourself, forgot there is only ONE FreeBSD, one
distribution model, one vendor.  Most of their arguments thereafter
follow this logic, when comparing the two OSes.  When giving thier
choice of OS for different applications, they place Linux at the top of
many solutions.  Out of six models, Linux falls 1st on three and 2nd on
one.  FreeBSD falls first on two and second on one.  A fairly similar
distribution but giving the advantage to Linux.  Apart from the
previously discussed argument, I believe that their main reasoning is
based on one major factor: marketting.  Linux has become the new buzz
word, and is more widely known and accepted today as the NOS of choice,
no matter how well FreeBSD out-performs it.  Linux has a larger userbase
and more commercial vendor support (think Oracle as an example).  It's
more a matter of familiarity, acceptance and comfort (some of the
reasons people stick with M$, don't forget) than actual performance,
stability, and robustness.

For FreeBSD to compete with this, it would have to find a way to
compete in the "real world" where the advantages of FreeBSD have little
to no bearing on the people holding the purse strings.  They're starting
to be lenient on Linux since it's becoming so popular.  If FreeBSD could
reach the same popularity levels, it would probably out-perform Linux
almost everywhere.  But then again, is that the objective? :)  In the
real world, it's usually only a matter of exposure and popularity, not
of quality.  Need only look so far as M$ to find the best example.

My 2 cents and interpretation of the article...

Manu


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Tower15@aol.com wrote:
> 
> Although you may consider yourself an all knowing, powerful, visionary, I
> don't need any Mental midgets such as yourself filling my mailbox with
> worthless junk. I will not even lament on your childish, stupid, use of
> vulgarity to express your pointless, mindless diatribe on spam. You mindless
> idiots are the reason people don't like e-mail notification of new products,
> let alone the truely honest business men out there trying to make a decent
> living!



Any "truely honest business men out there trying to make a decent living"
who use SPAM to help them in their endeavors deserve the responses they get.
If it were up to me, these people would suffer much worse than they do
already.


>    So why don't you and your pathetic, coprolitic, "freebsd.org" just slither
> back into whatever waste hole it was that spit you out.


Because we were here first.  :)


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At 08:53 PM 2/21/99 , Tower15@aol.com wrote:
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You'll notice that instructions to do so are in the bottom of every message
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Gee, this seems a bit off topic.

At 11:53 PM 2/21/99 EST, Tower15@aol.com wrote:
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>let alone the truely honest business men out there trying to make a decent
>living!
>   So why don't you and your pathetic, coprolitic, "freebsd.org" just slither
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Lycorne <comets@wanadoo.fr> writes:

> I am very interrested for FreeBSD, but can you explain some thinks:
> - It is compatible vith a Diamond V550 on AGP Bus?

Yes, I'm using one.  It's actually XFree86 (the X Window server) that
supports the card in graphics modes.  You need a recent version of it
for this card (ver 3.3.3.1 is current).  FreeBSD comes with XFree86
(so does Linux). 

> - How to learn for using FreeBSD if I have never works on Unix System
> (Books...)

See http://www.cdrom.com/titles/os/bsdbook2.htm for one good book
or http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/bibliography.html for a list of
some others.  Read the rest of the handbook at
http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/ while you're there. 

> - What is the difference between Linux and FreeBSD

This is a "religious" topic, but basically they both have the same 
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I am new to freebsd but I have used linux quite a bit.  I have a few
questions concerning hardware setup, configuration, and network setup. 
What email list should I get on?  Is there a one size fits all?  Thanks
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From owner-freebsd-questions  Sun Feb 21 23:10:39 1999
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I got this email address from the freebsd web page and wanted to know some
information about this OS in regards to internet daemons in general and ftp
server specifically

Here is my situation:
I am tasked to setup a internet server to handle many different
applications.  I have found that this OS is the most recommended.  I have
the following requirements to be met and hope this OS or some applications
for it can fill them.
-I need a FTP server than can be provisioned via a remote GUI.  this remote
GUI needs to be able to run on win9x boxes as well as other BSD boxes.  I am
looking for something like the one found in WarFTPd 1.7 released by JGAA for
win9x but something that will run on a more stable platform like BSD.
-This FTP needs to be able to restrict access by domain name and IP address.
It also needs to handle usage statistics by user, class and system for file
transfers, speed, logins, failed logins, and time of day/day of week usage.
-This OS needs to be able to handle remote shutdown and restart commands as
well as shutdown and start commands for each of the servers.
-It needs to be very reliable operate with PII and PIII boxes with standard
hardware like Sound cards, PCI or APG video, Ethernet Cards, SCSI
controllers, and CD Burners.
-It needs to allow automatic dial on demand for clients on a local LAN and
provide gateway services to win9x clients that is totally transparent to the
client.  No special proxy settings.

Anyhow...these are the major issues I need to have to choose a
platform...there are many more but wont bore you with those right now.  If I
can meet these requirements then its worth my time to buy this OS and see
what I can do with it.

I appreciate your time in reading though all this...I know I can ramble on
forever but this information is critical to an upcoming project that I am
charged with managing.  I have very little Unix background.  Haven't used it
in over 15 years now so I will need a lot of  support  :)

Thanks again,

Jason Cribbins
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On Monday, 22 February 1999 at  1:33:16 -0300, Gustavo Vieira G C Rios wrote:
> CAn i write a program using assembly to read/write mster.passwd file

That depends on your ability.  Of course it's possible.  But why do
that when you can write absolute binary into a file with an editor?

> i would not use any API to perform such a action!

Why not?  Anyway, even assembly uses the system API.

Greg
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