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Date:      Thu, 30 Mar 2006 19:24:37 -0500
From:      Bill Moran <wmoran@collaborativefusion.com>
To:        Kris Kennaway <kris@obsecurity.org>
Cc:        mmiranda@123.com.sv, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, usleepless@gmail.com
Subject:   Re: terrible performance in 6.1beta4
Message-ID:  <20060330192437.043e88ff.wmoran@collaborativefusion.com>
In-Reply-To: <20060330205858.GA21147@xor.obsecurity.org>
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Kris Kennaway <kris@obsecurity.org> wrote:

> On Thu, Mar 30, 2006 at 10:49:01PM +0200, usleepless@gmail.com wrote:
> > Kris,
> > 
> > > Yes, this is my impression of the problem too.  Any time your process
> > > is waiting on disk I/O it is going to perform terribly (on any OS -
> > > disks are slow), and the way to fix this is to make sure it does as
> > > little I/O as possible (by allowing everything to be cached in RAM).
> > 
> > just for my curiosity, do you share my opinion on the fsync issue?
> 
> Actually I seem to recall that on Linux with default settings fsync()
> lies and does not actually sync data before returning, so maybe it's
> worth turning off on FreeBSD too if you're comfortable with the
> implications of this.

If you have fsync off and the system crashes, your PostgreSQL database
will probably be corrupt beyond repair.

I believe the official word from the PostgreSQL folks is that fsync is
safe to turn off if you've got battery-backed cache on your disk
controllers.  Many high-end SCSI controllers have this as an option.

Alternatively, if you're just putting the database on for the first
time, you can temporarily turn fsync off while you're uploading the
data.  If the system crashes during this, just delete and recreate
the database and try again.

It's not generally a good idea to run in production with fsync off,
however, unless you have a battery on your controller.

-- 
Bill Moran
Potential Technologies
http://www.potentialtech.com



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