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Date:      Fri, 11 Mar 2016 12:01:34 -0500 (EST)
From:      Daniel Eischen <deischen@freebsd.org>
To:        Slawa Olhovchenkov <slw@zxy.spb.ru>
Cc:        Baptiste Daroussin <bapt@FreeBSD.org>, David Chisnall <theraven@FreeBSD.org>, Glen Barber <gjb@FreeBSD.org>, freebsd-current@freebsd.org, freebsd-pkgbase@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: [CFT] packaging the base system with pkg(8)
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On Fri, 11 Mar 2016, Slawa Olhovchenkov wrote:

> On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 01:05:11PM +0100, Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
>
>> On Tue, Mar 08, 2016 at 05:35:59PM +0000, David Chisnall wrote:
>>> On 8 Mar 2016, at 15:14, Slawa Olhovchenkov <slw@zxy.spb.ru> wrote:
>>>>
>>>
>>> In terms of comparing packages, if you=E2=80=99re doing that visually t=
hen you are likely to have problems anyway, unless your eyes and brain work=
 far better than most humans.  We can make that much easier by providing li=
bxo output in pkg and allowing you to have a simple jq script that tells yo=
u what the differences are.
>>>
>> pkg can already expose the entire content of a package in json or ucl vi=
a:
>> $ pkg info --raw --raw-format [json|json-conpact|yaml|ucl] name
>
> Exposing  the entire content of a package is not a root of cause.
> Question in comapring of two different setup with different behaviour
> and search cause of difference.
>
> Case of only a few monolitic packages is essentiality simple then case
> of 1000 combined packages.

It would be nice to have pkg(8) show packages in tree form, with option
to show just top-level meta packages or packages that have no meta.

Perhaps this is possible, but it's not obvious to me.

--=20
DE
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Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2016 20:20:23 +0300
From: Slawa Olhovchenkov <slw@zxy.spb.ru>
To: Daniel Eischen <deischen@freebsd.org>
Cc: Baptiste Daroussin <bapt@FreeBSD.org>,
 David Chisnall <theraven@FreeBSD.org>,
 Glen Barber <gjb@FreeBSD.org>, freebsd-current@freebsd.org,
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Subject: Re: [CFT] packaging the base system with pkg(8)
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On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 12:01:34PM -0500, Daniel Eischen wrote:

> On Fri, 11 Mar 2016, Slawa Olhovchenkov wrote:
> 
> > On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 01:05:11PM +0100, Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
> >
> >> On Tue, Mar 08, 2016 at 05:35:59PM +0000, David Chisnall wrote:
> >>> On 8 Mar 2016, at 15:14, Slawa Olhovchenkov <slw@zxy.spb.ru> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> In terms of comparing packages, if you’re doing that visually then you are likely to have problems anyway, unless your eyes and brain work far better than most humans.  We can make that much easier by providing libxo output in pkg and allowing you to have a simple jq script that tells you what the differences are.
> >>>
> >> pkg can already expose the entire content of a package in json or ucl via:
> >> $ pkg info --raw --raw-format [json|json-conpact|yaml|ucl] name
> >
> > Exposing  the entire content of a package is not a root of cause.
> > Question in comapring of two different setup with different behaviour
> > and search cause of difference.
> >
> > Case of only a few monolitic packages is essentiality simple then case
> > of 1000 combined packages.
> 
> It would be nice to have pkg(8) show packages in tree form, with option
> to show just top-level meta packages or packages that have no meta.

Meta-package can have variable contens, this is not assist for this
case (I am regulary do check/unchek options for
apache/nginx/php-modules for not-default configurations).



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