From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 15 20:17:19 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D37BC16A41F for ; Sat, 15 Oct 2005 20:17:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from mxout5.cac.washington.edu (mxout5.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.135]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CBD343D46 for ; Sat, 15 Oct 2005 20:17:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from smtp.washington.edu (smtp.washington.edu [140.142.33.9]) by mxout5.cac.washington.edu (8.13.4+UW05.04/8.13.4+UW05.09) with ESMTP id j9FKHIgI031938 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Sat, 15 Oct 2005 13:17:18 -0700 X-Auth-Received: from [192.168.0.10] (c-24-18-246-211.hsd1.wa.comcast.net [24.18.246.211]) (authenticated authid=youshi10) by smtp.washington.edu (8.13.4+UW05.04/8.13.4+UW05.09) with ESMTP id j9FKHHhS027061 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 15 Oct 2005 13:17:17 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v734) In-Reply-To: <20051015193523.GA29903@thought.org> References: <20051012213632.GA3888@thought.org> <20051015075710.GB26129@thought.org> <20051015193523.GA29903@thought.org> Message-Id: <676AF154-D0FE-4429-BE9E-58812118B34D@u.washington.edu> From: Garrett Cooper Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2005 13:18:43 -0700 To: FreeBSD Questions X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.734) X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=IIIIIII, Probability=7%, Report='HTML_70_90 0.1, __CT 0, __CTYPE_HAS_BOUNDARY 0, __CTYPE_MULTIPART 0, __CTYPE_MULTIPART_ALT 0, __HAS_MSGID 0, __HAS_X_MAILER 0, __MIME_HTML 0, __MIME_VERSION 0, __SANE_MSGID 0, __STOCK_CRUFT 0, __TAG_EXISTS_HTML 0' Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: interesting past 4 hours... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2005 20:17:20 -0000 On Oct 15, 2005, at 12:35 PM, Gary Kline wrote: > On Sat, Oct 15, 2005 at 12:06:30PM +0400, Andrew P. wrote: > >> On 10/15/05, Gary Kline wrote: >> >>> On Fri, Oct 14, 2005 at 09:08:31PM -0500, Nikolas Britton wrote: >>> >>>> On 10/12/05, Gary Kline wrote: >>>> >>>>> This is to anybody with Gnome or KDE insights, >>>>> >>>>> First, both environments do work on my 400Mhz ThinkPad >>>>> (with almost 300M/SDRAM). KDE has a nicer feel for my >>>>> tastes >>>>> but the response in beyond crummy even with nearly all >>>>> eye-candy. >>>>> >>>> >>>> Did you mean to say with all eye-candy disabled?... Have you >>>> checked out XFCE? >>>> >>>> Intro to XFCE: >>>> http://www.xfce.org/index.php?page=overview&lang=en >>>> >>>> Here are some flash based demos: >>>> http://www.xfce.org/various/flash_demos.html >>>> >>>> The XFCE meta port is in x11-wm/xfce4 and don't forget about all >>>> the >>>> plugins: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/ports.cgi?query=XFCE&stype=all >>>> >>>> After you install the XFCE meta port type in rehash and then >>>> startxfce4, if you like it and want to keep it as your default >>>> desktop >>>> environment type in "echo "/usr/X11R6/bin/startxfce4" > >>>> ~/.xinitrc". >>>> the FreeBSD handbook as a bit about XFCE in section 5.7.4 >>>> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x11- >>>> wm.html >>>> >>>> I use KDE on my fast systems and XFCE on the slow ones. >>>> >>>> >>> >>> I'll give xfce a try. Again. I played with it months ago >>> but gave up on it after a few days. Can I run all KDE-ware >>> and Gnome suites too? >>> >>> Thanks for the pointers! >>> >>> gary >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public >>> service Unix >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions- >>> unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >>> >>> >>> >> >> Many FreeBSD users came to love Fluxbox. It's >> a windowmaker-based manager, very nice, very >> lightweight. It's not an environment, so there are >> no file managers, viewers, keyrings, etc. included. >> But it has some support for both KDE and Gnome >> programs, so you can easily install any Gnome- >> based tool (it'll also install some parts of Gnome, >> but not all of it). It has no conflicts with Gnome/ >> KDE, so you can install and see if you like it. >> > > You know, what I'd like my wm to be able to do is > set app (say xload) > > /usr/bin/nice -n -17 xload -g 50x90+0+0 & > > so that I'll be able to nice it down to some low value, > control the placing and size of the app, and so on. > I assume that Gnome/KDE (and their light versions) > have some ~user/.* XML files where things are tuned, > but grep -r .* hasn't found anything ... > Is there/Where is the files that list the apps so that > I can set up things and season-to-my-tastes? > > For me, functioality is more imortant than how "pretty" > things look. > > gary > > -- > Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public > service Unix You should be able to accomplish that via fluxbox the best since it lists all of the programs out in an XML file (I know I'm reaching a bit since I haven't used fluxbox in a while), somewhere in ~/.fluxbox/[something]. Also, you could setup aliases in ~/.bash_alias (see alias syntax with man alias) for your more common programs; I know it's just patching the problem, but it should do the trick. -Garrett