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Date:      Wed, 21 May 1997 09:50:16 -0700
From:      "Jordan K. Hubbard" <jkh@time.cdrom.com>
To:        Cat Okita <cat@uunet.ca>
Cc:        "Duane H. Hesser" <alex@androcles.com>, "Jonathan M. Bresler" <jmb@FreeBSD.ORG>, current@hub.freebsd.org, jmb@hub.freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: usregsite.com 
Message-ID:  <2602.864233416@time.cdrom.com>
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 21 May 1997 11:11:45 EDT." <Pine.SUN.3.96.970521110804.4192P-100000@troll.uunet.ca> 

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> I strongly disagree with you. As a large NSP, having to constantly call
> people and say "Hi, you were over-zealous, stop blocking our domain" is
> a total and complete waste of time, especially since many people don't
> properly check for forgeries and origins.

Well, you're talking about another worst-case scenario here and one
which can ONLY occur if you yourselves are not responsive to emails.

I, for example, never block a domain arbitrarily without first sending
email to abuse@foo.net and, if that bounces, to postmaster@foo.net.

If I then get no reply at all to my query after a reasonable length of
time (say 3-4 days, especially if I'm still receiving spam from said
location) then I consider it more than reasonable to block access.

In your case, that should never happen because you'd have already sent
me your standard reply #47 saying "this is not us, it's a forgery -
please look through the headers more thoroughly to determine the
actual point of entry.  Thanks."

If, on the other hand, you're not responsive to such mails or, even worse,
you don't have abuse/postmaster aliases properly set up then, IHMO, you
deserve all the blocking you get. :-)

						Jordan



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