From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 10 18:32:38 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA06607 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 18:32:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from boober.lineone.net (boober-be.lineone.net [194.75.152.84]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA06312 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 18:31:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gurab@lineone.net) Received: from admin.cian.net (host5-99-47-90.btinternet.com [195.99.47.90]) by boober.lineone.net (8.8.5/8.8.0) with SMTP id CAA02385; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 02:30:13 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <006901bd64e9$a6753a60$0300a8c0@admin.cian.net> Reply-To: "Christopher Raven" From: "Christopher Raven" To: "Greg Lehey" Cc: Subject: Re: Fw: Your Article "Freeware: The Heart & Soul of the Internet" Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 02:32:09 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG It has been commented that over selling FreeBSD could be counter productive by stereotyping its users. Quite possibly, but not pushing at all could be just as devestating if not more so, if Linux consumes the market who will support FreeBSD? Look at the Apple Mac - the supposedly independant platform, and now part owned by its biggest rival. How? because Microsoft cornered the software market and squeezed Apple over. If Linux corners all the commercial support, who will use FreeBSD? Even though it is a superior platform it could well end up largely unsupported. What I am trying to say here is FreeBSD *MUST* be pushed or it will lose out to Linux period, and I don't think the Linux community will buy into FreeBSD to help it. P.S. - why doesn't the FreeBSD team (or others) send FreeBSD information to the broadcasting / publishing guys to promote another such article (as per Linux) but about FreeBSD. I am sure that the BBC could be grabbed - its a start isnt it? Even send me the info and I can pester the UK media for you. Chris R. [sorrry for the wasted bandwidth but I felt it had to be said.] >On Thu, 9 April 1998 at 23:19:58 -0400, Open Systems Networking wrote: >> I think we SERIOUSLY need a PR plan of some kind. I think also we can take >> the gloves off and start kicking heads without getting nasty about it. We >> have several FACTUAL resources that they just CANT compete with. > >Does anybody out there care? What I see is that they will get the >impression "these free UNIXes attract a strange, aggressive kind of >person, each saying \"My UNIX is better than your UNIX\"". > >>> guys hasn't appeared to have won us anything but lots of nice comments >>> from folks like Marc A. at netscape to the effect that "Linux is the >>> only free OS alternative." I'm getting tired of that, and if it's >>> going to take "breaking ranks" with the rest of the free OS community >>> to get our own message out, maybe it's time. >> >> I second this! But the problemhere is that we have zero PR. I am not >> making light of jordans efforts at all. His trips, his talks, his free CD >> handouts to promote FreeBSD. But the fact is we dont have any PR that is >> making any difference to anyone but geeks. ORA flat out annoys me by >> pretty much refusing to do a FreeBSD book. The only publisher I can >> respect now would be addison wessley since they have seemed interested in >> publishing gregs book. I dont know what happened on that front. > >Neither do I. Time to nag, I suppose. J Carter Shanklin called me a >couple of months ago and was really interested, but things seemed to >cool off before he got the book (*if* he got the book). I will >report. > >Greg To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message