From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 27 06:09:21 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF2EA1065672 for ; Wed, 27 Apr 2011 06:09:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from corky1951@comcast.net) Received: from qmta10.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta10.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.17]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91C428FC1C for ; Wed, 27 Apr 2011 06:09:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from omta09.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.20]) by qmta10.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id cW651g0010SCNGk5AW9MNR; Wed, 27 Apr 2011 06:09:21 +0000 Received: from comcast.net ([98.203.142.76]) by omta09.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id cW9K1g00y1f6R9u3VW9LQT; Wed, 27 Apr 2011 06:09:21 +0000 Received: by comcast.net (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Tue, 26 Apr 2011 23:09:18 -0700 Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2011 23:09:17 -0700 From: Charlie Kester To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20110427060917.GB73524@comcast.net> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org References: <20110427014343.GJ38579@comcast.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Mailer: Mutt 1.4.2.3i X-Composer: Vim 7.3 Subject: Re: Dropping maintainership of my ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 06:09:22 -0000 On Tue 26 Apr 2011 at 22:15:58 PDT Zhihao Yuan wrote: >On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 8:43 PM, Charlie Kester wrote: >> >> Well, due to some serious philosophical differences re these >> deprecation campaigns and what seems to be resistance to any further >> discussion, I don't think I can continue working with the committers. >> So I'm stepping down. >> >> If no one else wants to maintain them, please reset the maintainer of the >> following ports to ports@FreeBSD.org: >> >> audio/mcplay >> deskutils/osmo >> deskutils/teapot >> devel/argtable >> devel/egypt >> devel/gengetopt >> devel/libXGP >> devel/libYGP >> finance/xinvest >> finance/xquote >> graphics/box >> graphics/boxer >> graphics/fly >> graphics/sng >> math/ised >> misc/vifm >> misc/xsw >> multimedia/gpodder >> multimedia/openshot >> multimedia/photofilmstrip >> security/beecrypt >> security/ccrypt >> security/nettle >> security/ranpwd >> sysutils/dircomp >> sysutils/gaffitter >> sysutils/iextract >> sysutils/lookat >> sysutils/moreutils >> sysutils/moreutils-parallel >> sysutils/ncdu >> sysutils/rdup >> textproc/tdhkit >> x11/fbpanel > >O-o-ok... philosophical differences. > >audio/mcplay and the 3 multimedia-related ports, + fbpanel, have many >users, AFAIK, and require much works. We need to someone to take them >soon. I don't know what you mean by "requires much works". The only ones of these ports that are not up-to-date are xquote and nettle. There is already an open PR to update nettle. All it needs is some attention from a committer. Frankly, xquote should be deprecated, as it's an old-style Motif app that's so ugly I'll bet no one uses it. I only took it (and the related xinvest) because they got reinstated after I pointed out they were still fetchable at a new location. Everything else is in good shape. I've been told that we shouldn't be looking for reasons to save any unmaintained port, and I was specifically told this in response to my efforts to identify ports that have a lot of users. So I don't think current policy supports the conclusion that "we need to find someone to take them soon." There, in a nutshell, you have the philosophical disagreement which led to my decision to be done with ports. If the powers-that-be want to deprecate all of these and lighten the load on the system and themselves, I no longer care. I know how to download a tarball and run through the configure/make/install routine, so I'll still be able to run the software I need. I thought I'd lend a hand to those who don't have those skills, but it doesn't seem that this contribution is welcomed or appreciated. "There are too many ports!" (Sorry if I'm ranting, I am still very angry about all this.)