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Date:      Sun, 24 Aug 2008 00:27:45 +0200
From:      Ed Schouten <ed@80386.nl>
To:        Robert Watson <rwatson@FreeBSD.org>
Cc:        cvs-src@FreeBSD.org, src-committers@FreeBSD.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: cvs commit: src/etc/etc.amd64 ttys src/etc/etc.arm ttys src/etc/etc.i386 ttys src/etc/etc.ia64 ttys src/etc/etc.mips ttys src/etc/etc.powerpc ttys src/etc/etc.sparc64 ttys
Message-ID:  <20080823222745.GL99951@hoeg.nl>
In-Reply-To: <alpine.BSF.1.10.0808232312310.49942@fledge.watson.org>
References:  <200808231436.m7NEasMo005071@repoman.freebsd.org> <alpine.BSF.1.10.0808232024440.49942@fledge.watson.org> <20080823215322.GJ99951@hoeg.nl> <alpine.BSF.1.10.0808232312310.49942@fledge.watson.org>

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* Robert Watson <rwatson@FreeBSD.org> wrote:
> So users using slightly old versions of screen, etc, shouldn't appear in =
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> finger(1), w(1), or receive messages from biff(1), talk(1), write(1),=20
> wall(1), shutdown(8), and dump(8), all of which (I believe) rely on=20
> utmp(5) to determine who is logged in and where?  I'm sure that quite a=
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> few of these are of diminishing significance in the current world order=
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> (certainly biff is), but I'm not convinced that we should exclude users=
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> on historic tty devices from receiving advance notice of system shutdowns=
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> or dump events.

Right now we're actually digging up the entire dynamic vs static linkage
discussion again. If people run a dynamically linked version of screen,
xterm, etc, they are not affected (except libc.so.6 of course).

The amount of people that run a statically linked login service already
ripped off their seal of warranty in my opinion, but I'd rather not make
a bikeshed out of this.

The current /etc/ttys already seemed like an improvement when compared
to the old one, where we spent 2 out of 3 entries on commonly unused PTY
names. What kind of ratio do you propose?

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 Ed Schouten <ed@80386.nl>
 WWW: http://80386.nl/

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