Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2008 00:27:45 +0200 From: Ed Schouten <ed@80386.nl> To: Robert Watson <rwatson@FreeBSD.org> Cc: cvs-src@FreeBSD.org, src-committers@FreeBSD.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/etc/etc.amd64 ttys src/etc/etc.arm ttys src/etc/etc.i386 ttys src/etc/etc.ia64 ttys src/etc/etc.mips ttys src/etc/etc.powerpc ttys src/etc/etc.sparc64 ttys Message-ID: <20080823222745.GL99951@hoeg.nl> In-Reply-To: <alpine.BSF.1.10.0808232312310.49942@fledge.watson.org> References: <200808231436.m7NEasMo005071@repoman.freebsd.org> <alpine.BSF.1.10.0808232024440.49942@fledge.watson.org> <20080823215322.GJ99951@hoeg.nl> <alpine.BSF.1.10.0808232312310.49942@fledge.watson.org>
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--2ItTUDFNGRP62uHp Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable * Robert Watson <rwatson@FreeBSD.org> wrote: > So users using slightly old versions of screen, etc, shouldn't appear in = =20 > finger(1), w(1), or receive messages from biff(1), talk(1), write(1),=20 > wall(1), shutdown(8), and dump(8), all of which (I believe) rely on=20 > utmp(5) to determine who is logged in and where? I'm sure that quite a= =20 > few of these are of diminishing significance in the current world order= =20 > (certainly biff is), but I'm not convinced that we should exclude users= =20 > on historic tty devices from receiving advance notice of system shutdowns= =20 > or dump events. Right now we're actually digging up the entire dynamic vs static linkage discussion again. If people run a dynamically linked version of screen, xterm, etc, they are not affected (except libc.so.6 of course). The amount of people that run a statically linked login service already ripped off their seal of warranty in my opinion, but I'd rather not make a bikeshed out of this. The current /etc/ttys already seemed like an improvement when compared to the old one, where we spent 2 out of 3 entries on commonly unused PTY names. What kind of ratio do you propose? --=20 Ed Schouten <ed@80386.nl> WWW: http://80386.nl/ --2ItTUDFNGRP62uHp Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkiwjuEACgkQ52SDGA2eCwVMfQCfW/RW2AomV10eos/j9pq+sLLx OxIAn1PwQ5NfnTo2aFfAHv1TKNFpJ4bh =wIRu -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --2ItTUDFNGRP62uHp--
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