From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Fri May 18 04:41:12 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 479DEEE989F for ; Fri, 18 May 2018 04:41:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sobomax@sippysoft.com) Received: from mail-oi0-f49.google.com (mail-oi0-f49.google.com [209.85.218.49]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D8EC78598A for ; Fri, 18 May 2018 04:41:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sobomax@sippysoft.com) Received: by mail-oi0-f49.google.com with SMTP id t27-v6so6016255oij.9 for ; Thu, 17 May 2018 21:41:11 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=yIo+lHzfUTtEqc/7TF8CwpwR3poTwh/NY53JIKeoPj8=; b=afKiaJOReIdokAkfiZ8Itl/iXIF5thottZkr5E6r+KFAKZLxEXP7SH3U44rzDWZd98 QAODLGGyMhlp8+QRqSDXQ4NsxGEd4kqEOA4/gfYPg2nSe3Rku+YIzl7/I8RLfN1CTaHv l+qsdbV8UzydJyhteuGJ2tSAzv6yTS1Y4dWagI2LCsoX3Ywe3JdHOC+Dx4u2hiSQl006 VjhVsCG/0sTX5oqa3v5nPWGyxLZ9gFd9gv7Z93XKOkdj13GWi2DzuGWaWcYvupgx/b7X uAww2/BMUPdvUiR9fVB/+bgNNO90pcb5XAiuohDpM5Vnd46g8xsk/Uq9d63p0ZxrI47F KZEw== X-Gm-Message-State: ALKqPwdtmoTnQnvklmfd8VxtKOyycyFCGAW5QNPG+S54fOLOL9LfJ8kV AVl0pkiiDTfjjfGN+oP1kbjveLzRcRlqMMqHHZiOWA== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AB8JxZq1sOmtAZo4OYX19P70e7CnezhRmBF5EUEn/bTv81sK/A4FWBQwLfm5OohnjB9dHxKkK/zePGV08iKKUPyOIXA= X-Received: by 2002:aca:cdd2:: with SMTP id d201-v6mr4983299oig.230.1526618004907; Thu, 17 May 2018 21:33:24 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <3cc77471-4200-1f45-e83d-2ae4d636f4fa@saltant.com> <732c3f40-1765-6883-dbec-f5c77db8e30c@saltant.com> <7b14a5c4-7320-8f5e-b8c3-f49809caf9e5@saltant.com> <20180518041501.GF37752@home.opsec.eu> In-Reply-To: <20180518041501.GF37752@home.opsec.eu> From: Maxim Sobolev Date: Thu, 17 May 2018 21:33:12 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Practice of "Sponsored by" in commit messages To: Kurt Jaeger Cc: "John W. O'Brien" , FreeBSD Ports Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.26 X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 May 2018 04:41:12 -0000 You guys are still trying to read and interpret labels on the t-shirts I think. "Sponsored by: XYZ" in the commit message only means that some undefined portion of the work has been in some form supported or encouraged by XYZ. It does not mean or imply all work, it does not mean any particular form of compensation or encouragement. In many cases it does not even indicate any monetary exchange between committer doing work and XYZ. There were no cases that I am aware of in the past 15 years when XYZ would have any grudge against FreeBSD or a particular committer about the form of that credit or lack of thereof . So the whole issue seems like perfect example of trying to make improvement to a well working system just for the sake of improvement. Never a good idea! -Max On Thu, May 17, 2018, 9:15 PM Kurt Jaeger wrote: > Hi! > > > The FreeBSD project could help by asking committers to qualify > > "Sponsored by" lines to indicate which participant(s) is(are) sponsored, > > in way that is equivalent to the way that the actual work itself is > > customarily attributed. > > This sounds reasonable, so I suggest that you submit a > patch to the ports handbook that describes it for maintainers > and committers. > > -- > pi@opsec.eu +49 171 3101372 2 years to go ! > >