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Date:      Sun, 25 Jan 2009 18:27:02 -0800
From:      Garrett Cooper <yanefbsd@gmail.com>
To:        "M. Warner Losh" <imp@bsdimp.com>
Cc:        svn-src-head@freebsd.org, svn-src-all@freebsd.org, src-committers@freebsd.org, obrien@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: svn commit: r187332 - head/tools/regression/usr.bin/jot
Message-ID:  <7d6fde3d0901251827i7a4717eby5600efeff9be57c4@mail.gmail.com>
In-Reply-To: <7d6fde3d0901251822o41b128c0h5770ecbcf407e302@mail.gmail.com>
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On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 6:22 PM, Garrett Cooper <yanefbsd@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 4:35 PM, M. Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com> wrote:
>> In message: <20090125235322.GB25031@dragon.NUXI.org>
>>            "David O'Brien" <obrien@FreeBSD.org> writes:
>> : On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 07:12:38PM -0700, M. Warner Losh wrote:
>> : > I'm
>> : > glad JUNOS can build inside its own VM.  Kudos.  But given that the
>> : > world is much more than a tightly controlled development environment
>> : > at a well funded company, I think that we need to be more
>> : > accommodating.  Especially for the embedded world.
>> :
>> : A minor correctly - JUNOS builds on STOCK FreeBSD running in a VM.
>> : JUNOS does not host its own build.
>> :
>> : How is building FreeBSD under stock FreeBSD affected by how well
>> : funded an entity is?
>>
>> Setting up and managing dozens of VMs for engineers without privs can
>> be problematic.  We use an emulation environment at work and the vm
>> images are constantly getting corrupted.
>>
>> Warner
>
>    But that's because it's QEMU -- QEMU is crap compared to VMware
> for x86 emulation still... QEMU/ppc is even worse, but it's the only
> ppc emulator that's freely available out there.
> -Garrett

I take that back. There's PearPC and GXemul, but I'm pretty sure
they're not as good as the prep port of QEMU.
-Garrett



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