From owner-freebsd-chat Wed Dec 27 13:02:28 1995 Return-Path: owner-chat Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id NAA16591 for chat-outgoing; Wed, 27 Dec 1995 13:02:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from croute.com (ishm2.croute.com [199.97.106.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA16586 for ; Wed, 27 Dec 1995 13:02:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from bldg1.croute.com by croute.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA12572; Wed, 27 Dec 95 15:09:22 CST Received: from COMPUROUTE/SpoolDir by bldg1.croute.com (Mercury 1.13); Wed, 27 Dec 95 15:25:22 +600 Received: from SpoolDir by COMPUROUTE (Mercury 1.13); Wed, 27 Dec 95 15:24:58 +600 From: "Larry Dolinar" Organization: CompuRoute, Inc. To: Donald Burr Date: Wed, 27 Dec 1995 15:24:53 +600 CDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Will an additional 4 MB help? Cc: FreeBSD Chat Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.22 Message-Id: Sender: owner-chat@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I'll answer yours if you'll try to answer one of mine... | Well, looks like I got some Xmas money this year... not a lot, but still | some. And so I decided to apply it toward my lifelong quest: to make my | computer the mightiest it can be. | | My computer, FYI, is an 486DX2/66 with 8 MB of RAM... 1.0 GB FAST SCSI-2 | disk, plus a 150 MB IDE that I use as auxiliary filesystem space. Mine isn't much faster -- 486/80 PCI (Genoa allegedly). 8MB, NCR SCSI, Orchid 2MB SVGA, crud monitor. | | I've been doing a lot more stuff in X lately, and find that it's quite | slow, especially when I'm trying to do a lot of stuff. I guess, then, | what my question would be is: would an additional 4 MB of memory help? Any GUI will benefit from more real memory, but you probably know that already. As far as 12 v. 8: it won't be fantastic, but it should be noticeable. | My system has 4 72-pin SIMM slots, which right now contain 2 4MB SIMMs, | for a total of 8 MB. So if I continue adding 4 MB SIMMs, I can have a | max. of 16 MB of memory. If I want to go any higher, I'd have to sell | all my SIMMs and get bigger individual modules -- like getting 8 MB | modules instead of 4 MB's, or 16 MB modules (do they even have those | yet?). They have 32's, wholesale about $860 here in Dallas. Normally retail prices run around $125 for 4MB, $250 for 8, etc. Up and down, as you can expect. Mind you, these are non-parity... | If I were able to afford this, then I might as well break down | and upgrade everything, including the CPU (see below). So this probably | won't happen. 16 is probably the max. memory for me with this system. | | I don't have a lot of cash, nor do I make a lot of cash -- so I can't | just run out and get a new Pentium or whatnot. Well, if I was in that position, I'd want to be in Santa Barbara 8) No place better, and I was just there in October. | Although that's | eventually what I want to do, in which case I'd have to upgrade just | about everything else in my system, INCLUDING memory (I'd need 60ns or | faster memory?, and probably this newfangled EDO memory or whatnot that | I've been hearing about). Obviously, I'm not expecting to do this for a | LONG, LONG time. Based on ASUS motherboards: 70ns for 75, 90, and 120MHz (50 or 60Mhz external clock); 60ns for 100 and 133MHz (66MHz). EDO's damned expensive in my opinion. | | So, I should probably get a 4 MB SIMM stick now, it'll probably help some | (maybe even dramatically). Then I can always add another 4 MB later, and | when the big jackpot hits, go for the Pentium. Right? 8MB if you can swing it -- as far as I know 8MB (your current) is about minimum for any X implementation. | | Please help a confused soul out... and apologies if this is somewhat | off-topic. Don't know if that helped -- where did you come across "props" (I did get it out of incoming as you suggested), and do you know if any more of the OpenLook stuff (like filemgr and mailtool) is floating around, or is likely to be on a CD release like AccelX or Motif 2.0? best regards, larry