From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 12 10:43:53 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D01437B401; Tue, 12 Aug 2003 10:43:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lakemtao06.cox.net (lakemtao06.cox.net [68.1.17.115]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5111F43F93; Tue, 12 Aug 2003 10:43:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mezz7@cox.net) Received: from mezz.mezzweb.com ([68.103.37.247]) by lakemtao06.cox.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.05 201-253-122-122-105-20011231) with ESMTP id <20030812174351.WETS15657.lakemtao06.cox.net@mezz.mezzweb.com>; Tue, 12 Aug 2003 13:43:51 -0400 Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 12:42:54 -0500 To: Martin Klaffenboeck Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed References: <20030811224242.GA1867@martin.kleinerdrache.org> <1060678720.821.36.camel@sisko.webonaut.com> <20030812150200.GA1893@martin.kleinerdrache.org> From: Jeremy Messenger MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20030812150200.GA1893@martin.kleinerdrache.org> User-Agent: Opera7.11/Linux M2 build 406 cc: FreeBSD-gnome cc: ports@freebsd.org cc: Franz Klammer Subject: Re: I'm out of here... X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 17:43:53 -0000 On Tue, 12 Aug 2003 17:02:00 +0200, Martin Klaffenboeck wrote: > Am 2003.08.12 10:58 schrieb(en) Franz Klammer: >> Am Di, 2003-08-12 um 00.20 schrieb Jeremy Messenger: >> > On Tue, 12 Aug 2003 00:42:42 +0200, Martin Klaffenboeck >> > wrote: >> > >> > > Hello, >> > > >> > > (Please cc me, I'm not on the list anymore.) >> > > >> > > I was maintaining about 9 ports in the FreeBSD ports collection, >> and I >> > > was starting the gports project (http://gports.sourceforge.net). >> > > >> > > But now I have changed back to linux after using FreeBSD on my >> desktop >> > > for about two years. It was a great time here, the hardest thing >> to quit >> > > with FreeBSD is not the OS itselfe, the hard thing is to say good >> by to >> > > all my friends in the mailling lists and chatrooms, which are >> using >> > > FreeBSD. The community is quite good, and I don't know how long >> it will >> > > take to get new friends in the linux community. I hope there will >> come >> > > some nice guys like you. (Esspecially Joe and Franz, but the >> others >> > > too.) >> > >> > May I ask you what it makes you switch over to Linux? I am just >> curious.. >> > :-) >> > >> >> Bye Martin! Thanks for the nice words. :-) >> But i'm also interested why you are doing a so extreme >> switch-over to Linux only. > > Yes, I think there is no real rational reason, and I cannot say, I have > made this decision because of advantages or disadvantages from the one or > other OS. > > The main thing could be, that I also want to play on my computer some > computer games. I couln't get the nvidia-driver working on FreeBSD, > without any crashes. There are more games available on linux I found > out, and porting new games to FreeBSD was a thing I found really hard, > because this sources are often not very portable. Now I don't have to > port things. Yeah, I still have the problem with the Nvidia driver in 5.1-CURRENT too.. Before, in 4.x, 5.0-RELEASE and old 5.0-CURRENT, the Nvidia driver (both old and new driver) used to work and now not work anymore in the 5.1- CURRENT. I had to do the strange method (incorrect and non-standard) by compile it with Nvidia AGP GART driver and force X to load the FreeBSD AGP GART driver to make it doesn't crash anymore. It hurts the 50% of perforamce, but as long it's faster than 'nv' and has the more support for xv and etc. > On FreeBSD I couln't get rid of the linux emulation, (because only the > linuxflashplayer for galeon worked, and it needed a wrapper there). You > may say: Who cares about that! But it's just that I don't liked it. Me too, I can't get rid of Linux emulation because of Opera and few others (no game stuff).. It's much more stable than native one, but Opera recently released a new 7.20 beta for FreeBSD and I haven't tried it yet. > Then I started to test gentoo linux, a few weeks ago. The first thing I > saw was: The computer starts faster. My computer is a workstation, so > this is good. And the computer runs faster. Ok, this is wrong. But the > user can have the feeling that the computer runs faster (especial while > using the gnome frontend, I didn't test kde so far), and people told me, > this is because the linux scheduler is cheating. It runs the current > visible things first, so it looks like it is faster, but it isn't really. > > What I miss is, that gentoo doesn't support the gnome 2.3 deveoper branch > (see the marcuscom portstree), so I'm working in 2.2 here. But I found > out, that this is not really a big problem for me right now. But, there has Gnome 2.3 development if you visit to www.breakmygentoo.net .. One of my friend is in Gnome 2.3 ebuild team and no I don't use Linux, but I visit to Gentoo forum. ;-) > I could talk on and on, why I decided for gentoo, but I think most of > this things weren't in my mind when I was switching. What I think about > my self I could explain in german with the word 'Tapetenwechsel'. (For > people who don't speak german, my dictionary translates this as 'change > of scene'). > > What do you think, when you hear my telling you this? I think, you have gave us the good reasons and points. Thanks and good luck in the Linux world! Cheers, Mezz >> Anyway ... good luck with you new OS-way of living ;-) > > Thanks, I'm not as good as I was in using FreeBSD, but it makes fun to > practise and learn. > > Martin > >> Franz. >> >> > Cheers, >> > Mezz >> > >> > > Good bye people. >> > > >> > > I'll miss you somehow. >> > > >> > > Yours, >> > > Martin >> > > >> > > PS. Please take over the maintainership of my ports, some will go >> to >> > > gnome@, some to ports@. Martin Grimme told me, that it would be >> nice if >> > > someone could take over the gdeskcal port for FreeBSD. Write him >> an >> > > email (mailto:martin@pycage.de) to put you into his announcement >> list. >> -- >> WEBONAUT.com >> http://webonaut.com >> mailto:klammer@webonaut.com -- bsdforums.org 's moderator, mezz.