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Date:      Sun, 15 Mar 1998 00:58:38 -0800
From:      John-Mark Gurney <gurney_j@efn.org>
To:        The Hermit Hacker <scrappy@hub.org>
Cc:        freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Why is it that...
Message-ID:  <19980315005838.32051@hydrogen.nike.efn.org>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.3.96.980315043940.280Q-100000@thelab.hub.org>; from The Hermit Hacker on Sun, Mar 15, 1998 at 04:41:59AM -0400
References:  <19980315001526.01926@hydrogen.nike.efn.org> <Pine.BSF.3.96.980315043940.280Q-100000@thelab.hub.org>

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The Hermit Hacker scribbled this message on Mar 15:
> On Sun, 15 Mar 1998, John-Mark Gurney wrote:
> 
> > The Hermit Hacker scribbled this message on Mar 15:
> > > 
> > > I finally picked up a SCSI CD to pull CD-DA tracks from my CDs to convert
> > > into mp3's, and am wondering why tosha reports that my mp3 should be
> > > ~1.8Meg, while the result of using mpeg_musicin to convert it to an mp3
> > > works out to be almost 5Meg?
> > > 
> > >  track   playing  start    end     raw size  mp3 size   # of
> > >  number   time    sector  sector   in bytes   44 kbps  frames
> > 						^^
> > >     1    5:41'25       0   25599   60211200   1877620   13067
> > > 
> > > Are the only tools for converting to mp3 that work under FreeBSD
> > > mpeg_musicin and l3enc?  Could there be enough of a difference between the
> > > two to have this sort of result?
> > 
> > because you provided a parameter that tells tosha to estimate the data
> > rate of the mp3 at 44kbps...  if you encode at 128kbps it will be about
> > 2.9 times larger than 1.87megs...  which is just over 5megs...
> 
> 	Oh, okay...then I guess the next question I have to ask is "what
> is thte difference"?  It might be a stupid question to some, but this is
> still all new to me :(

well, it just means that they run at a different bit rate...  of course
higher bit rate has higher quality...  but even the common 128kbps for
mp3 can muddle up the sound from cd's...  also, there is a min/max on
the bit rate for layer 3... 320 is max, 32 is min...

also, the one that builds out of the dist10 has a requirement (I think)
of the bit rate being a multiple of 16...

as for the difference...  just experiment with the different bit rates,
and choose the lowest that doesn't change the sound quality for you...

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