From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 19 22:49:42 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A8F116A4CE for ; Fri, 19 Nov 2004 22:49:42 +0000 (GMT) Received: from canning.wemm.org (canning.wemm.org [192.203.228.65]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C56843D1F for ; Fri, 19 Nov 2004 22:49:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from peter@wemm.org) Received: from fw.wemm.org (canning.wemm.org [192.203.228.65]) by canning.wemm.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DEA12A8E3 for ; Fri, 19 Nov 2004 14:49:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from peter@wemm.org) Received: from overcee.wemm.org (overcee.wemm.org [10.0.0.3]) by fw.wemm.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8F3DE2B7 for ; Fri, 19 Nov 2004 14:49:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from peter@wemm.org) Received: from overcee.wemm.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by overcee.wemm.org (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id iAJMne3h025481; Fri, 19 Nov 2004 14:49:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from peter@wemm.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [[UNIX: localhost]]) by overcee.wemm.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id iAJMnV6E025480; Fri, 19 Nov 2004 14:49:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from peter@wemm.org) X-Authentication-Warning: overcee.wemm.org: peter set sender to peter@wemm.org using -f From: Peter Wemm To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2004 14:49:30 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.7 References: <20041119203821.GE4339@opteron.dglawrence.com> <20041119205422.GA1010@lobo.homeunix.org> <20041119205443.GF4339@opteron.dglawrence.com> In-Reply-To: <20041119205443.GF4339@opteron.dglawrence.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200411191449.31117.peter@wemm.org> Subject: Re: nForce 3 150 vs. VIA K8T800 X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2004 22:49:42 -0000 On Friday 19 November 2004 12:54 pm, David G. Lawrence wrote: > > On Fri, 19 Nov 2004, David G. Lawrence wrote: > > > So, given a choice between an AMD64 motherboard with nVidia > > > nForce 3 150 chipset or VIA K8T800 chipset, which one actually > > > works and what are the tradeoffs? > > > > well I had a Gigabyte G-K8NS with a socket 754 and nForce 3 250 > > chipset but switched to a ASUS A8V delux socket 939 with a chipset > > VIA K8T800 and the latter is better as well more things seem to > > work with less down sides. I think the latter is much better with > > the dual channel memory and runs faster. But then again this is > > only my recent experience with AMD64. > > I recall some folks were recently having stability problems with > one of the VIA chipsets - any idea which chipset that was? > > -DG We have lots of problems on all of the nForce3-150 chipset based boards that I've tried. I think most of the fault lies with the reference bios being lousy, but even if you hack around the bios, all sorts of strange things happen, especially with apic enabled. I really don't know who's at fault here. I would not rule out a freebsd bug or misunderstanding somewhere. I personally have had no problems with via chipset boards. Except for stupid reference bioses that have a MBR partition type whitelist and disable the usb keyboard for partition types that they don't recognize as being usb keyboard safe... It is really annoying.. In boot0 and boot1 [which are entirely int 10 bios based] the bios reports no keyboard events. -- Peter Wemm - peter@wemm.org; peter@FreeBSD.org; peter@yahoo-inc.com "All of this is for nothing if we don't go to the stars" - JMS/B5