From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 28 20:52:50 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0EAE106567D for ; Thu, 28 May 2009 20:52:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gesbbb@yahoo.com) Received: from smtp104.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com (smtp104.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com [76.13.13.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 716BA8FC19 for ; Thu, 28 May 2009 20:52:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gesbbb@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 93484 invoked from network); 28 May 2009 20:52:49 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References:Reply-To:Organization:X-Mailer:Face:X-Face:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=tJ1mGsqJRgVJ7I8Q22iFmhlXEUqWrqlsF6aTFDRUxuHKRy0/HelTW+czo+ZxaROC6lBSaIlJEgHGQIAXS+/GR03VaLAGtgtzT2pCEfdp/Gwdxd4Ii7rwPUpZrvqBpZP5ddgD12xDBZbto+vwjwnnvwA13hC7yNTxDsovdMGpa9A= ; Received: from c-76-23-177-172.hsd1.ny.comcast.net (gesbbb@76.23.177.172 with login) by smtp104.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with SMTP; 28 May 2009 13:52:49 -0700 PDT X-Yahoo-SMTP: yeAAMgKswBATCul4lSbCWspvTA-- X-YMail-OSG: K1IdZ3MVM1keBr5VLawZ.zbP1VISbGq9ysSRpxhVzTWc2j8T7cphg1fp21DyaaEYscFo6JKIMDW2iA97HlV_63OytPFAjuPIXa.h90AYX2vd5gyTrwVTLdzRXj4crQn2A7hyYJyXxFzYOG5RK7AYizaCJp35VSWBm2iE9LryADdjmU2qk5acLiSQY9xgWWfArGBLW.gK0tOpqmqU1i4EVP95cqBfojcF44Wft1A3Yc9.aDODYGclhUy9Pi_.Ed6W4KUbCLuY0qvFlhz0cL2p0YnvF81oKLXyRfI1zc5TV1wMnSKE1__8w_xWg6tKU4HfhSOmpLfC4CszUZO5kFjqrnVfps41ZT_i_oE- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 16:52:47 -0400 From: Jerry To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090528165247.665ae52c@scorpio> In-Reply-To: <20090528220640.77ebc490.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <23711563.post@talk.nabble.com> <20090525154816.3cee4b9a@scorpio> <20090526144939.d21275c2.freebsd@edvax.de> <20090527133706.1a6e4612@scorpio> <20090528083057.554dca76@scorpio> <20090528090941.1b39b676@scorpio> <20090528183141.107ff3e4.freebsd@edvax.de> <20090528170909.GA1841@phenom.cordula.ws> <20090528193719.97764c30.freebsd@edvax.de> <20090528220640.77ebc490.freebsd@edvax.de> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.1 (GTK+ 2.16.1; i386-portbld-freebsd6.4) Face: 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 X-Face: "\j?x](l|]4p?-1Bf@!wN<&p=$.}^k-HgL}cJKbQZ3r#Ar]\%U(#6}'?<3s7%(%(gxJxxcR nSNPNr*/^~StawWU9KDJ-CT0k$f#@t2^K&BS_f|?ZV/.7Q Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=PGP-SHA1; boundary="Sig_/EpPSUNOh4v8jUYvhIrAFbiY"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Subject: Re: Canon printer and TurboPrint X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 20:52:51 -0000 --Sig_/EpPSUNOh4v8jUYvhIrAFbiY Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, 28 May 2009 22:06:40 +0200 Polytropon wrote: >On Thu, 28 May 2009 21:43:32 +0200 (CEST), Wojciech Puchar > wrote: >> I don't agree it's bad idea of removing processing hardware from >> printer. It's good idea as such processing is a blink of eye for >> today computers. > >in general, I would agree, but some BASIC FUNCTIONALITY should >be brought by the printer itself, and if it's only ASCII printing, >so things like > > % ls /etc > /dev/ulpt0 > >would work. For simple things, it's completely okay. > > > >> The problem is that there is NO STANDARD for raw bitmap printers. >> If it would - then just adding this to ghostscript would be few >> hours of work. > >Exactly, THAT's the problem. If all manufacturers would agree to >have a certain standard about how printers can receive bitmapped >content, everything would be easy. But as I said, printer manu- >facturers don't intend to do so, because customers seem to like >the shiny discs they need to spend some time with before being >able to actually use their new printer. :-) Did you ever bother to consider that if the printer manufacturers actually formed a consensus on a printer language, some third world county or the EU would probably sue them. Nothing I have seen in 20 years equals the audacity of the EU. As long as no 'standard' no matter how arbitrary, stupid or counter-productive exists, they are in theory safe from the EU. Besides, nothing stifles development as tightly as being bound to an arbitrary 'standard'. --=20 Jerry gesbbb@yahoo.com You can't expect a boy to be vicious till he's been to a good school. H. H. 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