From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jan 21 18:33:48 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73F254DB6FA for ; Thu, 21 Jan 2021 18:33:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kh@panix.com) Received: from mailbackend.panix.com (mailbackend.panix.com [166.84.1.89]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4DM9yM2Cdcz4k45 for ; Thu, 21 Jan 2021 18:33:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kh@panix.com) Received: from rain.home (pool-173-48-64-3.bstnma.fios.verizon.net [173.48.64.3]) by mailbackend.panix.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4DM9yK00Hyz1M80 for ; Thu, 21 Jan 2021 13:33:44 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=panix.com; s=panix; t=1611254025; bh=hhBo2+ozt2dPN70NunfxLyz2De0bLkE4JvuuDNcKPHQ=; h=Subject:To:References:From:Date:In-Reply-To; b=bWNthWZydLZUx02+VMbaqFvTh12gU6BIkN6q6ZBa/cql4PG2lr/DXBoYN9A5URkbf FjGMIfQId+yjnfydccN4BE+bJiKb/Tol5P1hQkEDz1ElpCnZ/D9YfShKUjAyGZb/ev IPXfXiqbRtMf8JSbTHyUrNVk5cHNzYZPFdb2cqZM= Subject: Re: drm-kmod kills FreeBSD To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <24584.64455.966459.479993@jerusalem.litteratus.org> From: Kurt Hackenberg Message-ID: Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2021 13:33:43 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <24584.64455.966459.479993@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4DM9yM2Cdcz4k45 X-Spamd-Bar: --- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=panix.com header.s=panix header.b=bWNthWZy; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of kh@panix.com designates 166.84.1.89 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=kh@panix.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.20 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_GOOD(0.00)[166.84.1.89:from]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:166.84.0.0/16]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCVD_DKIM_ARC_DNSWL_MED(-0.50)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED(-0.20)[166.84.1.89:from]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[panix.com:+]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[173.48.64.3:received]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:2033, ipnet:166.84.0.0/16, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[panix.com:s=panix]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[panix.com]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; DWL_DNSWL_LOW(-1.00)[panix.com:dkim]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(1.00)[1.000]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2021 18:33:48 -0000 On 1/20/21 10:57 PM, Robert Huff wrote: > To do what they do, drm-kmods and gpu-firmware-kmod burrow _deep_ > into the kernel; everything needs to be _perfectly_ in sync or > ... They are part of the kernel, literally kernel modules. Distributing them as ports/packages was expedient, a quick hack. I think they should somehow be distributed as part of the kernel.