From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Oct 24 19:32:24 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C29044527FD for ; Sat, 24 Oct 2020 19:32:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.133]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass Class 2 CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4CJWT31tCBz416P for ; Sat, 24 Oct 2020 19:32:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([94.222.10.141]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue011 [212.227.15.167]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 1M7am5-1kTPWg2Gar-007yk9; Sat, 24 Oct 2020 21:32:11 +0200 Date: Sat, 24 Oct 2020 21:32:11 +0200 From: Polytropon To: David Christensen Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What is the "better / best " method to multi-boot different OSes natively WITHOUT VirtualBox(es) ? Message-Id: <20201024213211.065fdb26.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <8bfbda9f-79b9-5e45-7c00-de32da3f14ed@holgerdanske.com> References: <20201024111010.5c867e8540a369b826d26703@sohara.org> <8bfbda9f-79b9-5e45-7c00-de32da3f14ed@holgerdanske.com> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:+gGEoIj8EZSGyt2uJZ8ZHty195tv2VgMbVjl4Zn+xQbduH1NZpQ Xr0zl6sKWdrk4va/A/5BABb8I59oxX9pBnY3suDGtA7zJMo+nBrcRQ1SdoW/tslRNX/Sstm PNVrV5Jg+6Hu2eBsGgfSIGRJwS4sXGKFwZnrfh5ntWNXwPWuFozBwOUgotywS0C2ddiuRha cQEJ0OmprxOy2frvkOD1A== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:+EVQOlWdZMw=:Z9B5aoydJPcIIGCIpO+xJ1 xpYMe2YcjL1PXuBzOM7lOZsu9Jto3Q/XDTl8kUKZnJhev2Ni02EBCj+kNzzzm/QKgNZEv1MLY 2mJxuMR/el2EmuFt6sFtddszS/+1WsC2ODhHiYpeXv3zfMbfSPdKGf0i8Vg0CeKTg9d5FqA+/ HKHoKOtefqLNIhknBd+fa86jS/TPhUaY+7qI4vZ3sntoXao4GBL47EA4fpnM4Q6XWNRXw7sFF HyXZXYz2BsJK1DTu4hXKdpWBydCqATqSqCU4Wgx0PflVbHPm1TJbruzSrhaZDpTqwGZIPbaDB EtfZXTqR4+eEFagUc2Rd+JPK31gBkTNmAG8hFM9Lp8K5vJMXB8QN/EJg3aYibFvEcLZsntZIt YlO0AKU+8u4/jCagfZQaLuG2gOd0IKHsFI5ual3QDFYh19DKomfzoPb0B4hQr X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4CJWT31tCBz416P X-Spamd-Bar: +++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of freebsd@edvax.de has no SPF policy when checking 212.227.126.133) smtp.mailfrom=freebsd@edvax.de X-Spamd-Result: default: False [3.37 / 15.00]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[freebsd@edvax.de]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; HAS_ORG_HEADER(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[94.222.10.141:received]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:8560, ipnet:212.227.0.0/16, country:DE]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; REPLYTO_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.76)[-0.761]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.38)[0.376]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[edvax.de]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.36)[0.358]; MID_CONTAINS_FROM(1.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[212.227.126.133:from]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[no SPF record]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[212.227.126.133:from]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.33 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 Oct 2020 19:32:24 -0000 On Sat, 24 Oct 2020 10:40:10 -0700, David Christensen wrote: > On 2020-10-24 03:10, Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: > > On Sat, 24 Oct 2020 02:51:25 -0700 > > TheBigBlue Guard wrote: > > > >> Yes ...everyone...What is the "better /best and least expensive " > > > > A [boot] swap drive bay is the most foolproof and reliable method that > > ensures no OS no matter how buggy or misguided can mess up another. > > > Boot drive swap bay -- minimum effort, maximum reliability, and maximum > expense. This is what I do. > > > Multi-boot -- maximum effort, minimum reliability, and minimum expense. Add safety to the list - a disk that is not in the machine cannot be messed up by a stupid installer program. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ...