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Date:      Wed, 05 Aug 1998 20:33:41 -0400 (EDT)
From:      Vince Vielhaber <vev@michvhf.com>
To:        Wes Peters <wes@softweyr.com>
Cc:        freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Install *actually* friendly
Message-ID:  <XFMail.980805203341.vev@michvhf.com>
In-Reply-To: <199808052151.PAA01734@obie.softweyr.com>

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On 05-Aug-98 Wes Peters wrote:
>> On Tue, 4 Aug 1998, Vince Vielhaber wrote:
>> > PC's are being shipped that way!  The particular machine that happened
>> > to
>> > me on was an Intel, not a machine built by Joe Blow's 'Puter Parts.  I'd
> 
> What EVER made you think a computer made by Intel is better than one 
> made by "Joe Blow's Computer Parts"?

Temporary insanity, but one would still expect a system from a manufacturer
to be done correctly whoever they are.

>> > already installed FreeBSD on a number of systems and it's my preferred 
>> > Unix so I was a bit more persistant than the typical user.  Right now
>> > that
>> > machine has the hard disk and CD on wdc0 and FreeBSD *still* doesn't
>> > even
>> > see wdc1 (even tho there's nothing on it).  The controllers are built
>> > onto
>> > the motherboard.
> 
> You don't understand: if you don't have a "master" device plugged into
> that "IDE2" connector on your motherboard, YOU DON"T HAVE A SECOND IDE
> CONTROLLER!  The "controller" on IDE is ON THE DRIVE, that's what
> "Integrated Drive Electronics" means.

If the BIOS, dos, windoze, linux, OS/2, etc.  can detect and use a device 
on the slave with no "master" your statement is slightly amiss.  AND QUIT
SHOUTING! 

Vince.
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