From owner-freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Fri May 24 00:58:27 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7EAC1591902 for ; Fri, 24 May 2019 00:58:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marklmi@yahoo.com) Received: from sonic303-3.consmr.mail.bf2.yahoo.com (sonic303-3.consmr.mail.bf2.yahoo.com [74.6.131.42]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7EB366C0D4 for ; Fri, 24 May 2019 00:58:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marklmi@yahoo.com) X-YMail-OSG: XyXMD_IVM1nJZP4h_zRwr2a0JhOnvR6F2nD8o1MSNw8SwnnZxvFqiOAYKkQu7uV IyS1Y.9E7d91CCnjdRIPc54VF2VTsx0btc2p4i4n8NDBhi1ZiZ2zswbGhBRC6gfH.Nb3v25LYAMp _Rj.zfdbpWR1NRKAew21_8HjODL_dtCBBEhD3KQcQ.ziYDYvL62RqSj9yBAovHVhAMX.VRT72AN1 UbzgfKcKJMbOnz2JuP3C1EMeJ91JQQhGuwA4iSyrl9SCzUT5wn9SD5i9NiL2jT_QTeACu8_lorC8 zhSVh0x_rgSkmOZ.V08M.huYV.xyF_qmLHOEYFyXpqGQSOul_sz9EiR9vWtQ5fmkl1bBcuj5Be1_ 4icGPGeEF9BtAZgToNZacud_SEFErOoGuQvxVf7I2gXr7_VnBYtFz_56bSUCLnLM88xBb_JEIggG 5GZeryONVL53elVkq05e2ylTMN8y_KRkfZQKlWDg.XzSVVOCmwojSkT3ROdIvFoc98_8o6kxm.C8 poQMqwQU.d3C90AMl4FZ3sJ3atUIREABtwY9Jt1EZNDq1Du8ZICzu2B_zI2Bn6lSL4OONKiEUZ4r L1C6HkHmyZMzPjydXwyVgBmJACklIXr3oRDIYcqi0i01s3vnbh96lY7Gs0u56j7jJNUBH5obez5n C.GjVnet5hJO2o.B7pJ56or8U2jTby7wDLQ_tXxSo8qmvUFjBZQCA6C_YK2OZ42eZMgFw0dbUX3Z GkvLa.LfChAR0T_WAZ7IjpxV0PFaUiN01zoFW44uOMxAWwUTjeip.O4JIkR3W8nbala7t8Ihuw5d 3koqXwDfrwJS7qIpSrSjlS15tL9XobrthenLQLUnLqO4.3ItNZhXXsqdpne_eyRmcZ.jINZjEHrq THXRlv22vome46.ssJpYM33iDJORyp6BcBGgo8o_WFKT5AnNTscl5yL66qSxZrPTQieu_iuB5Pnb U2SZwPyE5DhtwfYX6Mm8mqkdvdLYNE41vpbuFrtMMzUfxwwKdeYQelQoq3NAjdhXx4ZO5o1Eetqu 10E9VQriJSO73PxmTbPJtwvzaWzS0FbQmlVsPsAoc5Iz2iTz4oZ53RTEkGJSECux8GuKiyaCt5Vz quUKXHlvlYh.mgF6ejN4ZJ7OKEN.35Zs2ULkig6QI_95HVobmrPF5BOWCiKYw20fl9LBk2CGoQMU 6XLndn4FkbAG_Lr1WwMheQio3YuDgyimtAgaATRAT4qQ3JM6g0jgu_80zQV3g0zA- Received: from sonic.gate.mail.ne1.yahoo.com by sonic303.consmr.mail.bf2.yahoo.com with HTTP; Fri, 24 May 2019 00:58:18 +0000 Received: from c-76-115-7-162.hsd1.or.comcast.net (EHLO [192.168.1.103]) ([76.115.7.162]) by smtp413.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (Oath Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID 3d429db2b23fd2ddcd8ee8bc33c93734; Fri, 24 May 2019 00:58:15 +0000 (UTC) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 12.4 \(3445.104.11\)) Subject: Re: Mac G5 X11 performance From: Mark Millard In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 23 May 2019 17:58:13 -0700 Cc: Francis Little , freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: To: Jason Bacon X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.104.11) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 7EB366C0D4 X-Spamd-Bar: ++ X-Spamd-Result: default: False [2.90 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ptr:yahoo.com]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[yahoo.com]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: mta6.am0.yahoodns.net]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[yahoo.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[yahoo.com,reject]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[gmail.com]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[yahoo.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:26101, ipnet:74.6.128.0/21, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[yahoo.com.dwl.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[yahoo.com:s=s2048]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.90)[0.905,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; IP_SCORE(1.50)[ip: (4.76), ipnet: 74.6.128.0/21(1.56), asn: 26101(1.25), country: US(-0.06)]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.31)[0.310,0]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.70)[0.695,0]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[42.131.6.74.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0] X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 May 2019 00:58:27 -0000 On 2019-May-23, at 17:10, Jason Bacon wrote: > Netsurf works fine, but unfortunately depends on a legacy libutf8proc, = which conflicts with the more modern utf8proc required by many other = ports (including subversion). >=20 > All firefox dependencies build ("make depends" runs clean), so we're = very close. >=20 > BTW, there are ~27,000 binary packages for ppc64, ~31,000 for amd64. = Not bad, and that number will jump when a few key ports like qt5-core = are fixed. I'm able to build devel/qt5-core based on: # svnlite diff /usr/ports/Mk/Uses/ Index: /usr/ports/Mk/Uses/qt-dist.mk =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D --- /usr/ports/Mk/Uses/qt-dist.mk (revision 501994) +++ /usr/ports/Mk/Uses/qt-dist.mk (working copy) @@ -251,7 +251,7 @@ .if ${_QT_VER:M5} post-patch: gcc-post-patch gcc-post-patch: - ${REINPLACE_CMD} 's|%%LOCALBASE%%|${LOCALBASE}|' \ + ${REINPLACE_CMD} 's|%%LOCALBASE%%|${LOCALBASE}|g' \ ${WRKSRC}/mkspecs/common/gcc-base.conf \ ${WRKSRC}/mkspecs/freebsd-g++/qmake.conf ${REINPLACE_CMD} 's|%%GCC_DEFAULT%%|${GCC_DEFAULT}|g' \ I noticed that my build logs had %%LOCALBASE%% text that had not been replaced, in particular the 2nd one on a particular line. That lead to noticing the missing "g". (I'm not a ports committer or maintainer.) I experiment with a system-clang-8 and base/binutils based powerpc64 environment, instead of gcc 4.2.1 based. So direct inference of others being able to do the same would not apply. But it seems likely to me. Side note: qt-dist.mk sometimes uses -e with ${REINPLACE_CMD} even when only one command is being fed to sed, a context in which the -e is optional. > On 2019-05-23 14:02, Francis Little wrote: >> I find WindowMaker fairly responsive. >>=20 >> I've not had a lot of luck with a web browser yet, Midori builds and = comes up but cannot load webpages for some reason. >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> On Thu, 23 May 2019, 19:25 Jason Bacon, > wrote: >>=20 >>=20 >> This is not a very important issue, but thought I'd bring in up in >> case >> there's a simple solution. >>=20 >> I have an iMac G5, used mainly for port testing, but I've found = that >> it's very close to being a usable desktop system (running SLiM = login >> manager and LXDE as other mainstream desktop environments don't >> currently build). All it would need is a few more key ports fixed >> (e.g. >> firefox or chromium, qt5-*) and improved X11 performance. >>=20 >> X11 performance is slow to the point where a dragged window won't >> even >> keep up with the mouse. >>=20 >> Chipset and Xorg info is below. >>=20 >> Loading radeonkms causes a complete system freeze. >>=20 >> I haven't found anything on the freebsd-ppc pages or elsewhere to >> help. >>=20 >> If anyone knows of any ways to improve the situation, I'd = appreciate >> hearing them. If they're not too hackish, I would add support to >> sysutils/desktop-installer so others with PowerPC Macs can = configure >> them with minimal effort. >>=20 >> vgapci0@pci0:0:16:0: class=3D0x030000 card=3D0x41501002 >> chip=3D0x41501002 >> rev=3D0x00 hdr=3D0x00 >> vendor =3D 'Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI]' >> device =3D 'RV350 [Radeon 9550/9600/X1050 Series]' >> class =3D display >> subclass =3D VGA >>=20 >> [ 66.665] >> X.Org X Server 1.18.4 >> . . . >>=20 >=20 =3D=3D=3D Mark Millard marklmi at yahoo.com ( dsl-only.net went away in early 2018-Mar)