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Date:      Tue, 7 Jul 1998 15:19:45 -0700 (PDT)
From:      Mark Murray <markm>
To:        sjr@home.net (Stephen J. Roznowski)
Cc:        markm@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-bugs@FreeBSD.ORG, peter@netplex.com.au
Subject:   Re: bin/6539
Message-ID:  <199807072219.PAA12020@hub.freebsd.org>
In-Reply-To: <199807071826.OAA06100@istari.home.net> from "Stephen J. Roznowski" at "Jul 7, 98 02:26:16 pm"

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> I'm confused by this message. Last I heard, Peter Wemm (peter@netplex.com.au)
> was going to do something on this -- I made a (feeble) offer to try to help
> if I could.

Jordan has asked me to take charge of it.

> This message sounds like you don't want perl5 under the contrib tree. I
> would think that it belongs there like the rest of the contrib software....

You misread me :-).

We want the perl5 that is in the contrib/ tree to be as unmodified
as possible, only having those mods that are necessary. You submussion
was full of binaries, created files and so forth. The created files
should be created as a part of the build process, not stored in
the contrib/perl5/* area.

> Just for the record, Peter sent the following problems (with the tar file):
> 
> 	- it uses sdbm and dbm rather than the libc db

This is also true and relevant.

> 	- the contrib/perl5 sources appear to be fairly modified,
> 	  and have been configured at least.  The configure run
> 	  doesn't appear to match the per5 port's settings or patches.

Yup. This should not be done. All the build stuff should happen in
the /usr/obj area.

> 	- there doesn't seem to be any solution to adding perl
> 	  modules with MakeMaker..  We need a way to be able to build
> 	  and install modules, preferably being able to load them
> 	  from /usr/local as well as /usr/libdata to avoid duplication.

Agreed.

> 	- it would be nice to be able to link it with other things
> 	  in the base that want to use it, such as nvi..  - a
> 	  <bsd.perl5.mk> make include file would be really nice, it
> 	  could automate the building a good deal of the bundled
> 	  modules as well as be usable by the ports system for the
> 	  stack of CPAN modules there.

Yes.

> To which I added:
> 
> 	- you currently can't install man pages with ":"s in them
> 	  [PR misc/6612]

True.

> So, where do we go from here?

I'll be back home in South Africa at the end of July. I'll so some
serious hacking on it then. In the meanwhile, if you could address
some of these problems, I would be grateful.

M

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