From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 15 19:43:38 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F86F16A400 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 19:43:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from niivanov@gmx.net) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B750F13C458 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 19:43:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from niivanov@gmx.net) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 15 Mar 2007 19:43:36 -0000 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+y1e1A5wCygXKzgCJDx8iNQ2iQatgVsOwieLnDXH 0JRIX45MOTMtku From: "Nino Ivanov" To: References: <000001c766e0$2e7b04b0$5300000a@HAL9000> <14989d6e0703150428i30ad83dav554ec225f98312e7@mail.gmail.com> <20070315181241.GA86652@xor.obsecurity.org> Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 20:43:32 +0100 Message-ID: <000001c7673a$381ac0f0$5300000a@HAL9000> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <20070315181241.GA86652@xor.obsecurity.org> Thread-Index: AcdnLYg5PoB2REbdSf+Gg5C03Itn7AACpr+A X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Cc: kris@obsecurity.org Subject: AW: FreeBSD 2.2.9 / Installation problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 19:43:38 -0000 Dear Chistian, Dear Kris, I also think the RAM will not be the issue, as it is a text-only = install, and indeed, I am not planning to "get fancy". I completely don't need X. Midnight Commander is perfectly fine as a working environment. 4.11 = seemed OK. But I am having a different problem right now, which I am still = researching: It does not recognize the device from where to mount root correctly. I = mean the following: When I put FreeBSD into the Compaq for installation, the harddrive is ad4 or ad8. But in the system where I want to run it, the = HP Omnibook, it is ad0. Now, when I start it back in the HP Omnibook, it says that swap is not configured correctly on ad8s-something. Which is true, it should look = for it on ad0... I have only once been able till now to mount root. (And this = is my basis for assuming that even 4.11 CAN potentially run.) I said as = command ufs:/dev/ad0 when it asked me where to mount root from. This worked, however, e.g. ufs:/dev/ad0s1 did not work. I am thinking that I might = have made a mistake, and should have said ad0s1a. Yet, the principal new problem persists: FreeBSD does not realize that = it should now look at ad0 instead of ad4 or ad8. (However, in the booting process, it correctly "sees" ad0 as having 325 MB etc.) Is there a way = to solve this? If this really works I think I'll write a step-by-step guide... I really appreciate your help in this matter - thank you a lot! -----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht----- Von: Kris Kennaway [mailto:kris@obsecurity.org]=20 Gesendet: Donnerstag, 15. M=E4rz 2007 19:13 An: Christian Walther Cc: Nino Ivanov; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Betreff: Re: FreeBSD 2.2.9 / Installation problem On Thu, Mar 15, 2007 at 12:28:12PM +0100, Christian Walther wrote: > On 15/03/07, Nino Ivanov wrote: > >Dear Sir or Madam, > > > [...] > > > >The target machine is a HP Omnibook 600c laptop with 8MB RAM, a 486 = DX4 > >processor, 300 MB disk space. No CD drive. No network available. = External > >floppy drive without DMA. (I tried NetBSD, but because of the lack of = DMA > >it > >did not work properly.) The functioning of the floppy drive is = critical, > >being the machine's only practical means of communicating with the = outer > >world. Due to cost and time considerations, no upgrades are possible. = If=20 > >the > >target machine is not suitable for an installation of FreeBSD, please = let > >me > >know so I stop further attempts. >=20 > I guess you're without luck in this case. AFAIK FreeBSD needs at least > 64 MB RAM to work happily. I tried installing it on an P1/133MHz > Laptop with 16MB RAM, and it freezes after a few minutes. And it's > dead slow. Well it is only true of more modern versions that they do not function well on systems with e.g. 8MB. FreeBSD 2.x was happy with as little as 4MB. Kris