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Date:      Wed, 12 Jan 2005 11:46:13 -0800
From:      Julian Elischer <julian@elischer.org>
To:        Barry Bouwsma <freebsd-misuser@NOSPAM.dyndns.dk>
Cc:        FreeBSD Barnyard and Stable <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: update for 4.11  Security Officer-supported branches
Message-ID:  <41E57E85.5040102@elischer.org>
In-Reply-To: <200501121456.j0CEu3J2088923@Mail.NOSPAM.DynDNS.dK>
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Barry Bouwsma wrote:

>[thread hijacked from freebsd-security@ and landed in stable@ ]
>
>On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 11:16:34 -0800, Julian Elischer wrote:
>
>  
>
>>While a 4.12 will PROBABLY not happen, I do plan on continued MFCs of 
>>important
>>changes to RELENG_4 as I do not envision my custommers moving to 5.x 
>>until some
>>time in 2006 at the earliest. (Including fixes from dragonfly, and 
>>possibly some new drivers
>>and thing like USB fixes.
>>    
>>
>
>Thanks, Julian, and I'd like to contemplate getting a few of my MFC
>hacks that I'm running on 4.x, added to releng, if possible.
>
>One of these things I've found very handy is the `mount' option
>introduced in 5.x that allows one to specify with -F an alternate
>to /etc/fstab to be used.
>

we can probably MFC anything that doesn't break any existing ABI.

>
>This I use for conditional mounting of devices which may or may
>not be present, like external USB (to catch your interest, heh)
>drives with a complicated partition layout.  I test if a known
>drive is present at a certain device, and if so,
>`mount -F /etc/fstab-da0' or `-da1' and so on, as part of my boot.
>
>In order to adopt this change, I had to add to libc in 4.x as well
>as butcher the `mount' code.  Does such a change stand a chance of
>being added to 4.x, or are infrastructure changes required this way,
>like to libc, off-limits outside my own hive of personal hackery?
>  
>
libc is not usually a target in a legacy branch. Addign a new function to it
may be ok in some cases but probably best to not do it.

>
>(What's missing, as far as I know, that could be handy, is a
>comparable option to `umount' when one wants to quickly detach a
>drive with ten mounted filesystems.  I haven't looked at this idea)
>
>
>(freebsd-legacy@ , anyone, for those of us too stubborn to join the
>modern world, and get confused when the -stable list postings don't
>make clear what release is being discussed, or want a quiet place to
>mull over 2.2.x ?)
>

I was considerring this..
when 4.11 dies, we may make such a list.

>
>
>thanks
>barry bouwsma
>  
>



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