From owner-freebsd-hackers Tue Sep 19 11:30:55 1995 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id LAA21618 for hackers-outgoing; Tue, 19 Sep 1995 11:30:55 -0700 Received: from sequent.kiae.su (sequent.kiae.su [144.206.136.6]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with SMTP id LAA21601 for ; Tue, 19 Sep 1995 11:30:45 -0700 Received: by sequent.kiae.su id AA16478 (5.65.kiae-2 ); Tue, 19 Sep 1995 22:26:02 +0400 Received: by sequent.KIAE.su (UUMAIL/2.0); Tue, 19 Sep 95 22:26:01 +0400 Received: (from ache@localhost) by ache.dialup.demos.ru (8.6.11/8.6.9) id WAA01067; Tue, 19 Sep 1995 22:20:38 +0400 To: Terry Lambert Cc: hackers@freebsd.org References: <199509191745.KAA10194@phaeton.artisoft.com> In-Reply-To: <199509191745.KAA10194@phaeton.artisoft.com>; from Terry Lambert at Tue, 19 Sep 1995 10:45:47 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: Organization: Olahm Ha-Yetzirah Date: Tue, 19 Sep 1995 22:20:38 +0400 (MSD) X-Mailer: Mail/@ [v2.40 FreeBSD] From: =?KOI8-R?Q?=E1=CE=C4=D2=C5=CA_=FE=C5=D2=CE=CF=D7?= (aka Andrey A. Chernov, Black Mage) X-Class: Fast Subject: Re: SYSCONS PROBLEM IDENTIFIED Lines: 38 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1551 Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk In message <199509191745.KAA10194@phaeton.artisoft.com> Terry Lambert writes: >> >That is, the clear sreen/area/character operations on a console should >> >take the color into account as if the attributes were at state 0 instead >> >of using the altered color table. >> >> I completely disagree: >> 1) It is longstanding SYSV console tradition clear all with attribute. >The SCO Color console, which I wrote the emulation for in the commercial >comm software products TERM and TinyTERM, does not do this. Check original Xenix or SCO console and you see it by yourself. >The curses package (apparently) doesn't expect this. I can not run elm >on a SunOS, Solaris, or Linux box without getting a reverse screen. >> 2) ncurses package takes advantage of this feature when >> filling screen with color instead of putting spaces. >I didn't say a color set would not cause this to happen. >Colors and attributes which map to colors should be treated seperately. Colors are attributes for true SCO console. F.e. inverse attribute emulates via colors which can have any value. Bold attribute emulates via colors too. BTW: It is special termcap capability for this case it names: "ut" it is special terminfo capability for this case, it names: "bce" -- Andrey A. Chernov : And I rest so composedly, /Now, in my bed, ache@astral.msk.su : That any beholder /Might fancy me dead - FidoNet: 2:5020/230.3 : Might start at beholding me, /Thinking me dead. RELCOM Team,FreeBSD Team : E.A.Poe From "For Annie" 1849