From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Dec 13 00:12:54 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51BCC9D8A36 for ; Sun, 13 Dec 2015 00:12:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from schultz@ime.usp.br) Received: from iris.ime.usp.br (iris.ime.usp.br [143.107.45.5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FF391D7D for ; Sun, 13 Dec 2015 00:12:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from schultz@ime.usp.br) Received: from hpmini (unknown [187.65.219.230]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: schultz@iris.ime.usp.br) by iris.ime.usp.br (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 87F84290097C; Sat, 12 Dec 2015 22:12:48 -0200 (BRST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=ime.usp.br; s=mail; t=1449965572; bh=jPgGOtsVnjS4o9B+BrWZxPHefQtTJVMCDyGFdeheKgA=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:From; b=SBIYbLn3HTicAozEn5YpCouHN5pE/TpCPSZhw1FSdbgBSV0WvknLRpP8Ibr1o8nmY T4Nx51/FDCsSAKwJAqs4ZVuIOU0CIUQxKsrH0hdPNczEp3wHmzNi7G6/ifabq59opB dWffjpVIsVA0hSxo6oGHesnxP43L6nfp2oaoi48A= Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2015 22:14:35 -0200 From: =?utf-8?B?THXDrXM=?= Fernando Schultz Xavier da Silveira To: Michael Powell Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Cleaning obsolete files after make installworld Message-ID: <20151213001435.GA6169@hpmini> References: <20151205201107.GA19335@hpmini> <20151205204943.GA19890@hpmini> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on iris.ime.usp.br X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2015 00:12:54 -0000 Hello, > Check out the /usr/src/Makefile, particularly the # check-old and the # > delete-old sections. I've never found a need to use these, so I really am > uncertain how they would be used. But it seems as if they might come into > play after a make buildworld but prior to a make installworld. I could be > very wrong about that. But if you can track down how to actually use these > targets I think it may remedy the problem. I did use the delete-old functionality. The problem is the files persist even after that. The delete-old command does not seem to take into account software that was disabled in /etc/src.conf and needs to be removed. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Dec 13 05:17:43 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1828A41F80; Sun, 13 Dec 2015 05:17:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wam@hiwaay.net) Received: from fly.hiwaay.net (fly.hiwaay.net [216.180.54.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 83ED51483; Sun, 13 Dec 2015 05:17:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wam@hiwaay.net) Received: from kabini1.local (dynamic-216-186-213-32.knology.net [216.186.213.32] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by fly.hiwaay.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/fly) with ESMTP id tBD5HeKS018862 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Sat, 12 Dec 2015 23:17:41 -0600 Subject: Re: problems running OpenGL code To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org, freebsd questions list References: <566C3DAD.8090809@hiwaay.net> <20151212173509.fba928df.freebsd@edvax.de> <566C51CB.8040604@hiwaay.net> <566C536F.8080507@hiwaay.net> <566C5966.8020403@hiwaay.net> <566C75F3.1090801@b1t.name> <566C94A6.1090703@hiwaay.net> <566CA20C.4050307@b1t.name> From: "William A. Mahaffey III" Message-ID: <566CFF74.6000402@hiwaay.net> Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2015 23:23:10 -0553.75 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <566CA20C.4050307@b1t.name> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2015 05:17:43 -0000 On 12/12/15 16:45, Volodymyr Kostyrko wrote: > On 12.12.2015 23:40, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: >> xorg.conf was/is still using the VESA driver, do I need any changes >> there as well ? > > yep > >> Section "Files" >> ModulePath "/usr/local/lib/xorg/modules" >> FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/misc/" >> FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/" >> FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/OTF" >> FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/" >> FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/" >> FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/" >> EndSection > > This one is not needed mostly, you are specifying defaults. > >> Section "Module" >> Load "dbe" >> Load "dri" >> Load "dri2" >> Load "extmod" >> Load "record" >> Load "glx" >> EndSection > > Same here, server will try to load them anyway. > >> Section "InputDevice" >> Identifier "Mouse0" >> Driver "mouse" >> Option "Protocol" "auto" >> Option "Device" "/dev/sysmouse" >> Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5 6 7" >> EndSection >> >> Section "InputDevice" >> Identifier "Mouse0" >> Driver "vboxmouse" >> EndSection > > You have two definitions for mouse, make `Identifier` different or... > actually I don't know which one would be selected. > >> Section "Device" >> ### Available Driver options are:- >> ### Values: : integer, : float, : "True"/"False", >> ### : "String", : " Hz/kHz/MHz" >> ### [arg]: arg optional >> #Option "ShadowFB" # [] >> #Option "DefaultRefresh" # [] >> #Option "ModeSetClearScreen" # [] >> Identifier "Card0" >> Driver "vesa" >> VendorName "Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI]" >> BoardName "Kabini [Radeon HD 8280 / R3 Series]" >> BusID "PCI:0:1:0" >> EndSection >> >> Section "Device" >> ### Available Driver options are:- >> ### Values: : integer, : float, : "True"/"False", >> ### : "String", : " Hz/kHz/MHz" >> ### [arg]: arg optional >> Identifier "Card0" >> Driver "vboxvideo" >> VendorName "InnoTek Systemberatung GmbH" >> BoardName "VirtualBox Graphics Adapter" >> BusID "PCI:0:2:0" >> EndSection > > Same here, you are defining one `Identifier` twice. Found this online somewhere, pursuant to (trying to) get vbox running, still dicey .... Ditto the above twice-Identified Mouse0 .... > > And yes, here you need to specify your driver. Mine looks like: > > Section "Device" > Identifier "Integrated" > Driver "ati" > EndSection > > My config also has this: > > Section "ServerFlags" > Option "AIGLX" "True" > Option "BlankTime" "0" > Option "StandByTime" "0" > Option "SuspendTime" "0" > Option "OffTime" "10" > Option "AutoAddDevices" "False" > Option "AllowEmptyInput" "False" > Option "Log" "Sync" > Option "DRI2" "On" > EndSection > > Section "DRI" > Mode 0666 > EndSection > > Section "Extensions" > Option "Composite" "On" > Option "RENDER" "on" > Option "DAMAGE" "on" > EndSection > > I'm not saying you need to put all of that in your config, I haven't > tested whether all of that is still needed today. You know, time > passes by and you have no time to fix those thing since everything is > still working fine. For example I think whole `Extensions` section > became useless... > > PS: Thanks man, made me review my own config so I'll go testing now. :) No problema, happy to oblige. Let me know what you find ;-) .... I think I am supposed to be radeon, but not sure. Is your hardware AMD APU gfx ? -- William A. Mahaffey III ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war ever devised by man." -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Dec 13 06:25:21 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8E49A42451 for ; Sun, 13 Dec 2015 06:25:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tjg@tgustafson.com) Received: from mail-wm0-x232.google.com (mail-wm0-x232.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::232]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5F4681468 for ; Sun, 13 Dec 2015 06:25:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tjg@tgustafson.com) Received: by mail-wm0-x232.google.com with SMTP id p66so22521378wmp.1 for ; Sat, 12 Dec 2015 22:25:21 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=tgustafson-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=PUhkohTDR4k1KokK78PgYzFEpUGla71Te7w3oQQzOtg=; b=G/dEhSAedGaE6RUwKvdxfPG9nCGKxz2XkMhk5Q6wdt+PlgAiK3ULpkFHxHsc7ye0Cr lPbm5CaQQRfqD+UoLgqvSuoZyJL9Jf3x1Xg0LebINkRO9nRytvsqzmy9eD0+K2zP6xkL JyrvQ/mNEbwJ+/9emvqsIPKzPrlb6Ui8j7Dyf8N1MH7Yw57YxLeMjNt8GuHvZPiTrV22 KbWBdBDXHyl8pihBh7tGRGuaxXGJhWcNvdJIs/0dLlMWW24MTyq2l3B3nqczi8HTiXjy VCrlGc2ixFCeAjq6xtRqfVZDW9RxLy28tWLdk9itQAfbYHlvDc7NopwiXPSUk+qjvim2 iq9g== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=PUhkohTDR4k1KokK78PgYzFEpUGla71Te7w3oQQzOtg=; b=RltceCDUtu7IRshIaDI0G6H0eb8IeflTFWrmTukiZ0RT5b92qp0udTrWmTRr999OKR ZOJ93s3r7hJhh5ycQRdZVIqnki1W4CWVqQuszRc+HYw164SCNhE/jmOT1Wu47AFiykWp Yj2bLtx6ry7fEP+cnND9lZCPrAYXcWFMdIq6iT0QJ8aZKbmscp/ZTiJC6z1uO3UweCHL 6lmLy5GG6LY3RncwbJ5nTvtGkKEZGCCS9xsajytT7pLIwzCK3TNoPjTUqzKX3CmZ6Vo4 bUW/OEQkxdMTYxJIMUvZob2DFI5/x4q9X+8atpZPFhjrDN9rEWbobRi0dc6uA5mo1fbU PJqg== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmWq9QVkLwVLnffCsyFBQYLHsJHuBinbaMZU/KuRqX69etC1CgG5HMKYdVB6zf44zZdkc4Mr+4nIukml22kgENrbVczaA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.194.59.108 with SMTP id y12mr30040676wjq.33.1449987918163; Sat, 12 Dec 2015 22:25:18 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.28.238.154 with HTTP; Sat, 12 Dec 2015 22:25:18 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2015 22:25:18 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Can't Build FreeBSD 10.2 From: Tim Gustafson To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2015 06:25:21 -0000 I have a FreeBSD 10.0 box onto which I've downloaded a fresh copy of 10.2 into /usr/src via subversion, like this: rm -R /usr/src /usr/obj svn checkout http://svn.freebsd.org/base/releng/10.2 /usr/src I'm currently on revision 292152. Then I did: cd /usr/src make buildworld And I'm getting the following error: ========== -------------------------------------------------------------- >>> stage 1.1: legacy release compatibility shims -------------------------------------------------------------- cd /usr/src; MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX=/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp INSTALL="sh /usr/src/tools/install.sh" PATH=/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/legacy/usr/sbin:/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/legacy/usr/bin:/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/legacy/usr/games:/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/legacy/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin WORLDTMP=/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp VERSION="FreeBSD 10.2-RELEASE amd64 1002000" MAKEFLAGS="-m /usr/src/tools/build/mk -m /usr/src/share/mk" COMPILER_TYPE=clang make -f Makefile.inc1 DESTDIR= BOOTSTRAPPING=1002000 SSP_CFLAGS= -DWITHOUT_HTML -DWITHOUT_INFO -DNO_LINT -DWITHOUT_MAN -DNO_PIC -DNO_PROFILE -DNO_SHARED _BOOTSTRAP_MAKEINFO=yes -DNO_CPU_CFLAGS -DNO_WARNS -DNO_CTF -DEARLY_BUILD -DNO_TESTS legacy ===> tools/build (obj,includes,depend,all,install) /usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/src/tools/build created for /usr/src/tools/build set -e; cd /usr/src/tools/build; make buildincludes; make installincludes rm -f .depend mkdep -f .depend -a -I/usr/src/tools/build/../../contrib/libc-pwcache -I/usr/src/tools/build/../../lib/libc/include -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/legacy/usr/include -std=gnu99 /usr/src/tools/build/../../contrib/libc-pwcache/pwcache.c cc -O2 -pipe -I/usr/src/tools/build/../../contrib/libc-pwcache -I/usr/src/tools/build/../../lib/libc/include -std=gnu99 -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/legacy/usr/include -c /usr/src/tools/build/../../contrib/libc-pwcache/pwcache.c -o pwcache.o In file included from /usr/src/tools/build/../../contrib/libc-pwcache/pwcache.c:91: /usr/include/stdlib.h:54:9: error: unknown type name '___wchar_t'; did you mean '__wchar_t'? typedef ___wchar_t wchar_t; ^ /usr/include/x86/_types.h:145:14: note: '__wchar_t' declared here typedef int __wchar_t; ^ 1 error generated. *** Error code 1 Stop. make[3]: stopped in /usr/src/tools/build *** Error code 1 Stop. make[2]: stopped in /usr/src *** Error code 1 Stop. make[1]: stopped in /usr/src *** Error code 1 Stop. make: stopped in /usr/src ========== I tried building the RELENG-10.0 and RELENG-10.1 and am getting the same behavior on both. What am I doing wrong here? Is something hosed on my 10.0 system such that there's some library missing or something? It seems that freebsd-update is also not working. When I run: freebsd-update upgrade -r 10.2 it spends a bunch of time downloading stuff, but then it spits out the following line about a hundred times: /usr/sbin/freebsd-update: cannot open files/.gz: No such file or directory and then it starts prompting me to delete a whole bunch of stuff that I know it shouldn't be, like: The following file will be removed, as it no longer exists in FreeBSD 10.2-RELEASE: /boot/device.hints Does this look reasonable (y/n)? If I answer "no" to that question, freebsd-update immediately exits. Is my system totally broken or is there some way to save it? -- Tim Gustafson tjg@tgustafson.com From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Dec 13 06:51:09 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E18DA14816 for ; Sun, 13 Dec 2015 06:51:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brian@brianwhalen.net) Received: from mail-pf0-x230.google.com (mail-pf0-x230.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400e:c00::230]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 58C9B117E for ; Sun, 13 Dec 2015 06:51:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brian@brianwhalen.net) Received: by pfnn128 with SMTP id n128so88402601pfn.0 for ; Sat, 12 Dec 2015 22:51:08 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=brianwhalen-net.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=subject:to:references:from:message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=EyfwuAZUXTsuG9xYE0WG6sCFS/5YNo5IjmRXS51tADs=; b=vmkW96lwG4yU6qSjfVTDCSPIe2AdjmtsvLaKEEXztRZ6KmrygSP/jP2dvDEZ0TAMkK /mpOEUy3O40RELGUY87G2hcl7/QFJriXM4cMc6i3KFZi38N8RQPy4MxxC60U81+Dt3jB KAXa5e+ryrtG5gdP5AmsoS2VHUyFpXAzFL4El2Oc1KgK5MAM6u0o6bsfUJmOOs+JUU1d YP1zQ8ezQCT234FoeHgJFfXQoOhRGmqqO8bJORayzTWoL/3HsoYZFgN/Fm75hDdscFpl 89EqGjeOmucqHhuFG3HHaGUH3hNu5Dd7Vll9J0dshiVl1IUCo4SdWQI5a9SerTc9/KGS Zqhw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:to:references:from:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=EyfwuAZUXTsuG9xYE0WG6sCFS/5YNo5IjmRXS51tADs=; b=DLZIFR5+FQpYWfJW94h31etTlW8ubWUxmdnp5CvtAzZGMusiII+pD6SZuybx2WMYLO ippf+/eYyAFP8ZRkVMSZRVlI9dhwQ/SijrfLw+zs3dUOlN1pBnH9jAUM+EX8W5Ww2aFs 5xDJByy26yNJM4rgub2Lt3Czdm/EfslTBoJcGwJ18oHI0oavqOlBAlRCcarXHTu1WoDi l9XnpXsObfP8sWASX9oLg1jkifgdRDCkXDwyPHIPUlBhZtPGX1jbyBqE9eHUan3A2SlA ies4YKcsqsjas5yiBgO+sYLk+FrJb8fCR24/L870pg6AQDaLVrgABsqgjIPZ8wht6tGG Vy/g== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQlChkCAn3KQqeRtMYU50OwtmUhWKkSj+Nyu13dSW1jmRKXwMwd3XPiISyHwjcHYGzFi67rRRTte3CG9MZaIAkMLRj0iUw== X-Received: by 10.98.87.16 with SMTP id l16mr27005346pfb.80.1449989468386; Sat, 12 Dec 2015 22:51:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?IPv6:2606:6000:cd06:7f00:6d4e:8f8a:539a:107d? ([2606:6000:cd06:7f00:6d4e:8f8a:539a:107d]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id r20sm34616127pfa.93.2015.12.12.22.51.06 for (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 12 Dec 2015 22:51:06 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Can't Build FreeBSD 10.2 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: From: brian Message-ID: <566D1568.1010809@brianwhalen.net> Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2015 22:51:20 -0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2015 06:51:09 -0000 I havent seen this problem. Have you considered trying a freebsd-update without the upgrade, to get to the latest 10.0, and then upgrade from there? Brian On 12/12/2015 10:25 PM, Tim Gustafson wrote: > I have a FreeBSD 10.0 box onto which I've downloaded a fresh copy of > 10.2 into /usr/src via subversion, like this: > > rm -R /usr/src /usr/obj > svn checkout http://svn.freebsd.org/base/releng/10.2 /usr/src > > I'm currently on revision 292152. Then I did: > > cd /usr/src > make buildworld > > And I'm getting the following error: > > ========== > > -------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> stage 1.1: legacy release compatibility shims > -------------------------------------------------------------- > cd /usr/src; MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX=/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp INSTALL="sh > /usr/src/tools/install.sh" > PATH=/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/legacy/usr/sbin:/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/legacy/usr/bin:/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/legacy/usr/games:/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/legacy/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin > WORLDTMP=/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp VERSION="FreeBSD 10.2-RELEASE amd64 > 1002000" MAKEFLAGS="-m /usr/src/tools/build/mk -m /usr/src/share/mk" > COMPILER_TYPE=clang make -f Makefile.inc1 DESTDIR= > BOOTSTRAPPING=1002000 SSP_CFLAGS= -DWITHOUT_HTML -DWITHOUT_INFO > -DNO_LINT -DWITHOUT_MAN -DNO_PIC -DNO_PROFILE -DNO_SHARED > _BOOTSTRAP_MAKEINFO=yes -DNO_CPU_CFLAGS -DNO_WARNS -DNO_CTF > -DEARLY_BUILD -DNO_TESTS legacy > ===> tools/build (obj,includes,depend,all,install) > /usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/src/tools/build created for /usr/src/tools/build > set -e; cd /usr/src/tools/build; make buildincludes; make installincludes > rm -f .depend > mkdep -f .depend -a > -I/usr/src/tools/build/../../contrib/libc-pwcache > -I/usr/src/tools/build/../../lib/libc/include > -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/legacy/usr/include -std=gnu99 > /usr/src/tools/build/../../contrib/libc-pwcache/pwcache.c > cc -O2 -pipe -I/usr/src/tools/build/../../contrib/libc-pwcache > -I/usr/src/tools/build/../../lib/libc/include -std=gnu99 > -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/legacy/usr/include -c > /usr/src/tools/build/../../contrib/libc-pwcache/pwcache.c -o pwcache.o > In file included from > /usr/src/tools/build/../../contrib/libc-pwcache/pwcache.c:91: > /usr/include/stdlib.h:54:9: error: unknown type name '___wchar_t'; did > you mean '__wchar_t'? > typedef ___wchar_t wchar_t; > ^ > /usr/include/x86/_types.h:145:14: note: '__wchar_t' declared here > typedef int __wchar_t; > ^ > 1 error generated. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop. > make[3]: stopped in /usr/src/tools/build > *** Error code 1 > > Stop. > make[2]: stopped in /usr/src > *** Error code 1 > > Stop. > make[1]: stopped in /usr/src > *** Error code 1 > > Stop. > make: stopped in /usr/src > > ========== > > I tried building the RELENG-10.0 and RELENG-10.1 and am getting the > same behavior on both. What am I doing wrong here? Is something > hosed on my 10.0 system such that there's some library missing or > something? It seems that freebsd-update is also not working. When I > run: > > freebsd-update upgrade -r 10.2 > > it spends a bunch of time downloading stuff, but then it spits out the > following line about a hundred times: > > /usr/sbin/freebsd-update: cannot open files/.gz: No such file or directory > > and then it starts prompting me to delete a whole bunch of stuff that > I know it shouldn't be, like: > > The following file will be removed, as it no longer exists in > FreeBSD 10.2-RELEASE: /boot/device.hints > Does this look reasonable (y/n)? > > If I answer "no" to that question, freebsd-update immediately exits. > > Is my system totally broken or is there some way to save it? > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Dec 13 07:23:50 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AE9BA423C6 for ; Sun, 13 Dec 2015 07:23:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 07B8B10A9 for ; Sun, 13 Dec 2015 07:23:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-31-25.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.31.25]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 627493CEFA; Sun, 13 Dec 2015 08:23:46 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id tBD7Njij002090; Sun, 13 Dec 2015 08:23:45 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2015 08:23:45 +0100 From: Polytropon To: "William A. Mahaffey III" Cc: FreeBSD Questions !!!! Subject: Re: problems running OpenGL code Message-Id: <20151213082345.4c588242.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <566C51CB.8040604@hiwaay.net> References: <566C3DAD.8090809@hiwaay.net> <20151212173509.fba928df.freebsd@edvax.de> <566C51CB.8040604@hiwaay.net> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2015 07:23:50 -0000 On Sat, 12 Dec 2015 11:02:13 -0553.75, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: > On 12/12/15 10:41, Polytropon wrote: > > On Sat, 12 Dec 2015 09:36:23 -0553.75, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: > > [...] > > is being defined. For OpenGL, other things like direct > > rendering (DRI, DRM) might be needed. You can always > > check this with tools like glxinfo, xdriinfo, glxgears, > > or other programs that make use of OpenGL (for example, > > "xlock -mode fire" or "xlock -mode lament"). > > > > The top of "glxinfo" output should look like this: > > > > name of display: :0.0 > > display: :0 screen: 0 > > direct rendering: Yes > > server glx vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation > > server glx version string: 1.4 > > server glx extensions: > > [...] > > client glx vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation > > client glx version string: 1.4 > > client glx extensions: > > [...] > > GLX version: 1.4 > > Hmmmm: > > [root@kabini1, /etc, 10:56:18am] 767 % glxinfo > glxinfo: Command not found. It's additional software, if I remember correctly, found in "mesa-demos". % glxinfo and % glxgears provide some information - or will complain when 3D is not available. The "graphics reality test" requires "xlock" and "xlockmore", and then: % xlock -nolock -mode lament % xlock -nolock -mode fire % xlock -nolock -mode gears I usually understand those as an indicator of "3D works". :-) > > Of course your graphics hardware should be reflected accordingly. :-) > > > > For this to work, I had to put > > > > drm_load="YES" > > nvidia_load="YES" > > Hmmmm .... OK, just did that. Do have them installed: > > [root@kabini1, /etc, 10:56:29am] 769 % grep -i drm LIST.installed.txt > drm-kmod-9.280208 FreeBSD 9.3 Kernel DRM driver > libdrm-2.4.60,1 Userspace interface to kernel Direct > Rendering Module services > [root@kabini1, /etc, 10:57:09am] 770 % grep -i nvidia LIST.installed.txt > nvidia-driver-340-340.93 NVidia graphics card binary drivers for > hardware OpenGL rendering > [root@kabini1, /etc, 10:57:16am] 771 % > > I just 'kldload'-ed drm & nvidia, I'll try again momentarily .... And you _do_ have a nVidia chipset? Keep in mind the example I provided is from my home PC equipped with a "NVIDIA GeForce 7600 GS (G73)" (according to "pciconf -lv"). A different kind of graphics hardware of course requires a different driver. And it might be possible you have to force X to use the driver you want. In my xorg.conf, I have the following relevant section: Section "Device" Identifier "Card0" Driver "nvidia" VendorName "nVidia Corporation" BoardName "G73 [GeForce 7600 GS]" BusID "PCI:2:0:0" Screen 0 Option "NvAGP" "3" Option "UseEdid" "FALSE" Option "UseEdidDpi" "FALSE" Option "DPI" "96 x 96" EndSection There is other statically hardcoded stuff in my xorg.conf, but this example should illustrate how a specific driver can be forced when leaving X's autodetection magic aside. :-) > >> Am I hosed until 3D OpenGL works for AMD jaguars ? If so, how is > >> progress on that front ? These are fairly common APUs, widely used in > >> laptops, some low-end desktops & some tablets, it would be sweet to get > >> this going :-) .... > > As far as I know, this special kind of "graphics card" isn't that > > easy to use. It starts with the proper driver. Which one are you > > currently using? > > Uuuuuuuuuhhhh .... Not sure. VESA, I think, how do I check ? Check "pciconf -lv" to see what you _really_ have, then /var/log/Xorg.0.log to find out what X _thinks_ you have. In my case, the relevant lines look like this: (II) LoadModule: "nvidia" (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/nvidia_drv.so (II) Module nvidia: vendor="NVIDIA Corporation" compiled for 4.0.2, module version = 1.0.0 Module class: X.Org Video Driver Also make sure you have entries like (II) LoadModule: "glx" (II) LoadModule: "dri" (II) LoadModule: "dri2" in that log file. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Dec 13 07:26:24 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95733A425D6 for ; Sun, 13 Dec 2015 07:26:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5DF5C11BA for ; Sun, 13 Dec 2015 07:26:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-31-25.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.31.25]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4703C3CF51; Sun, 13 Dec 2015 08:26:22 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id tBD7QL6c002096; Sun, 13 Dec 2015 08:26:21 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2015 08:26:21 +0100 From: Polytropon To: nightrecon@hotmail.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: problems running OpenGL code Message-Id: <20151213082621.c5fecba9.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <566C3DAD.8090809@hiwaay.net> <20151212173509.fba928df.freebsd@edvax.de> <566C51CB.8040604@hiwaay.net> <566C536F.8080507@hiwaay.net> <566C5C67.9070704@hiwaay.net> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2015 07:26:24 -0000 On Sat, 12 Dec 2015 12:54:59 -0500, Michael Powell wrote: > William A. Mahaffey III wrote: > > [snip] > >> What I don't have any clue is the exact support for the specific chip you > >> are trying to use; it may not exist yet or may be a WIP. Maybe there is > >> some bleeding edge patch or code around somewhere you can try if nothing > >> currently in Release is working. > >> > >> -Mike > > > > I just looked at both links & the 2nd one appears to say my video is not > > supported. It didn't mention my exact hardware, but said: > > > > > > AMD > > > > Radeon HD 8000 > > > > Sea Islands > > > > Not supported > > > > My xorg.conf shows: > > > > > > Section "Device" > > ### Available Driver options are:- > > ### Values: : integer, : float, : "True"/"False", > > ### : "String", : " Hz/kHz/MHz" > > ### [arg]: arg optional > > #Option "ShadowFB" # [] > > #Option "DefaultRefresh" # [] > > #Option "ModeSetClearScreen" # [] > > Identifier "Card0" > > Driver "vesa" > > VendorName "Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI]" > > BoardName "Kabini [Radeon HD 8280 / R3 Series]" > > BusID "PCI:0:1:0" > > EndSection > > > > > > So I guess I am hosed. However .... I thought the VESA driver would at > > least provide basic (albeit brutally slow/choppy/etc) functionality, > > wrong there as well ? Thanks & TIA & have a good one :-). > > > > VESA should show you a screen, which should be perhaps useable for text-mode > CLI and maybe some basic graphics (slow, very slow, as in repaint entire > screen line by line for any update). I have an old laptop with an ancient > radeon chip which is so old support has actually been removed so that VESA > is the only way I can use it. It does work with GUI desktops, just slowly. > > VESA mode(s) will never give you any support for GL and there won't be any > way (to my limited knowledge) to run code that depends on GL libraries. How about software OpenGL rendering? If I remember correctly, Mesa is the name of the tool. With software rendering enabled, it will be slow, but possible. Test tools like "glxgears" will show terrible frame rates, but display will be possible... -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Dec 13 07:30:39 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FC4BA428D1 for ; Sun, 13 Dec 2015 07:30:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from h.skuhra@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wm0-x22a.google.com (mail-wm0-x22a.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::22a]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D07EC1310 for ; Sun, 13 Dec 2015 07:30:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from h.skuhra@gmail.com) Received: by wmnn186 with SMTP id n186so82698476wmn.0 for ; Sat, 12 Dec 2015 23:30:37 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=date:message-id:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:references:user-agent :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=d8Or5ozLz7Ej8Fdfy7RBlusLzcvLNQZ1RJ8gzTXwAQk=; b=GQyzz6eVkvwDDocVTmzwaIhM8ldvaBot4/69Xfm/pedbO7a74vTwKL05LOWCVnuZNr L3xtrnBMTWdzQ68jYllTD8cuJ4nuHEtRIoDa1MAEJ5c21GAu+V0RNf9x6StA1nQm2dui zZElM/WcU+u+dEn3cB9Rm31l1n7dRtMgeNR1a4ULaDHRJgjRLsFsD9GHHwPgT7OoGKT/ +PLCV84/J/OKuYvXlWTyERboLt/zPkYfkI1yjvtR/kNGoD1bfT02EaHc3txPKJJRkCYw /IpnvF12g42tXsMQC+AbI6D7L0G8BY9lNaGuHVJRQfIxR1SqE8VTuyMfCLxQykHaOAy9 obkQ== X-Received: by 10.28.173.133 with SMTP id w127mr5086883wme.61.1449991837392; Sat, 12 Dec 2015 23:30:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from oslo.ath.cx ([2a02:b18:581:10:e1a7:fd26:e473:d2d1]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id jm4sm24021478wjb.7.2015.12.12.23.30.36 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sat, 12 Dec 2015 23:30:36 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2015 08:30:35 +0100 Message-ID: <86egeqls9w.wl-h.skuhra@gmail.com> From: "Herbert J. Skuhra" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Cleaning obsolete files after make installworld In-Reply-To: <20151213001435.GA6169@hpmini> References: <20151205201107.GA19335@hpmini> <20151205204943.GA19890@hpmini> <20151213001435.GA6169@hpmini> User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.15.9 (Almost Unreal) SEMI-EPG/1.14.7 (Harue) FLIM/1.14.9 (=?ISO-8859-4?Q?Goj=F2?=) APEL/10.8 EasyPG/1.0.0 Emacs/25.0.50 (i386-pc-freebsd10.2) MULE/6.0 (HANACHIRUSATO) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI-EPG 1.14.7 - "Harue") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2015 07:30:39 -0000 On Sun, 13 Dec 2015 01:14:35 +0100, Lu=EDs Fernando Schultz Xavier da Silveira wrote: > = > Hello, > = > > Check out the /usr/src/Makefile, particularly the # check-old and t= he # = > > delete-old sections. I've never found a need to use these, so I rea= lly am = > > uncertain how they would be used. But it seems as if they might com= e into = > > play after a make buildworld but prior to a make installworld. I co= uld be = > > very wrong about that. But if you can track down how to actually us= e these = > > targets I think it may remedy the problem. > = > I did use the delete-old functionality. The problem is the files pers= ist > even after that. > = > The delete-old command does not seem to take into account software th= at > was disabled in /etc/src.conf and needs to be removed. It does but there are some options (e.g. WITHOUT_INETD) missing in /usr/src/tools/build/mk/OptionalObsoleteFiles.inc. I think for WITHOUT_INETD the following change is required: Index: tools/build/mk/OptionalObsoleteFiles.inc =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D --- tools/build/mk/OptionalObsoleteFiles.inc (revision 291770) +++ tools/build/mk/OptionalObsoleteFiles.inc (working copy) @@ -2200,6 +2200,13 @@ OLD_FILES+=3Drescue/ping6 .endif +.if ${MK_INETD} =3D=3D no +OLD_FILES+=3Detc/inetd.conf +OLD_FILES+=3Detc/rc.d/inetd +OLD_FILES+=3Dusr/sbin/inetd +OLD_FILES+=3Dusr/share/man/man8/inetd.8.gz +.endif + #.if ${MK_INFO} =3D=3D no # to be filled in #.endif -- Herbert From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Dec 13 07:34:28 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8CD1A42C1B for ; Sun, 13 Dec 2015 07:34:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 918DF1740 for ; Sun, 13 Dec 2015 07:34:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-31-25.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.31.25]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 575303CFA5; Sun, 13 Dec 2015 08:34:26 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id tBD7YPZR002121; Sun, 13 Dec 2015 08:34:25 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2015 08:34:25 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Volodymyr Kostyrko Cc: FreeBSD Questions !!!! Subject: Re: problems running OpenGL code Message-Id: <20151213083425.cd478df0.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <566C75F3.1090801@b1t.name> References: <566C3DAD.8090809@hiwaay.net> <20151212173509.fba928df.freebsd@edvax.de> <566C51CB.8040604@hiwaay.net> <566C536F.8080507@hiwaay.net> <566C5966.8020403@hiwaay.net> <566C75F3.1090801@b1t.name> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2015 07:34:28 -0000 On Sat, 12 Dec 2015 21:30:59 +0200, Volodymyr Kostyrko wrote: > On 12.12.2015 19:27, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: > > 41 1 0xffffffff81c91000 963a67 nvidia.ko > > Can you try disabling this kernel module and deinstalling nvidia-driver > package? It does THINGS to make rendering work like substituting > original GL libraries with nVidia ones. Correct. It only works with the nVidia cards or chips listed as being compatible. For the specific hardware in question, it will probably _not_ work. I have this problem here first hand. :-) A re-installation of the original GL libraries should then fix this problem. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Dec 13 09:50:16 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CA13A426C7; Sun, 13 Dec 2015 09:50:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from arcade@b1t.name) Received: from limbo.b1t.name (limbo.b1t.name [78.25.32.206]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCD6C1BBF; Sun, 13 Dec 2015 09:50:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from arcade@b1t.name) Received: from limbo.b1t.name (limbo.b1t.name [78.25.32.206]) by limbo.b1t.name (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E6AEC5F; Sun, 13 Dec 2015 11:50:10 +0200 (EET) Subject: Re: problems running OpenGL code To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org, freebsd questions list References: <566C3DAD.8090809@hiwaay.net> <20151212173509.fba928df.freebsd@edvax.de> <566C51CB.8040604@hiwaay.net> <566C536F.8080507@hiwaay.net> <566C5966.8020403@hiwaay.net> <566C75F3.1090801@b1t.name> <566C94A6.1090703@hiwaay.net> <566CA20C.4050307@b1t.name> <566CFF74.6000402@hiwaay.net> From: Volodymyr Kostyrko Message-ID: <566D3F4E.8030207@b1t.name> Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2015 11:50:06 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <566CFF74.6000402@hiwaay.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2015 09:50:16 -0000 On 13.12.2015 07:16, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: >> My config also has this: >> >> Section "ServerFlags" >> Option "AIGLX" "True" Default. Can be removed. >> Option "BlankTime" "0" >> Option "StandByTime" "0" >> Option "SuspendTime" "0" >> Option "OffTime" "10" Here I preconfigured screen saving. >> Option "AutoAddDevices" "False" >> Option "AllowEmptyInput" "False" That's from the times of HAL. If your Xorg is not built with HAL (it's not by default now) you can omit that. >> Option "Log" "Sync" That was debugging. You don't need it as on filesystems like ZFS this makes Xorg extra slow writing logs. >> Option "DRI2" "On" This is needed probably, it's not default. But I don't know whether you need it or not. :) >> EndSection >> >> Section "DRI" >> Mode 0666 >> EndSection >> >> Section "Extensions" >> Option "Composite" "On" >> Option "RENDER" "on" >> Option "DAMAGE" "on" >> EndSection This two section mean nothing right now, Extensions are enabled by default and DRI changed startup. >> I'm not saying you need to put all of that in your config, I haven't >> tested whether all of that is still needed today. You know, time >> passes by and you have no time to fix those thing since everything is >> still working fine. For example I think whole `Extensions` section >> became useless... >> >> PS: Thanks man, made me review my own config so I'll go testing now. :) > > > No problema, happy to oblige. Let me know what you find ;-) .... I think > I am supposed to be radeon, but not sure. Is your hardware AMD APU gfx ? `ati` is a wrapper around `radeon`, `r128` and `mach64`. Anyway the latter two are from previous epoch by now. And yes, I have AMD Radeon HD 7560D (part of AMD A8-5500 APU). -- Sphinx of black quartz judge my vow. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Dec 13 13:54:01 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D9ADA429C4 for ; Sun, 13 Dec 2015 13:54:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wam@hiwaay.net) Received: from fly.hiwaay.net (fly.hiwaay.net [216.180.54.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 368A315C3 for ; Sun, 13 Dec 2015 13:54:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wam@hiwaay.net) Received: from kabini1.local (dynamic-216-186-213-32.knology.net [216.186.213.32] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by fly.hiwaay.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/fly) with ESMTP id tBDDrwGa021669 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Sun, 13 Dec 2015 07:53:59 -0600 Subject: Re: problems running OpenGL code References: <566C3DAD.8090809@hiwaay.net> <20151212173509.fba928df.freebsd@edvax.de> <566C51CB.8040604@hiwaay.net> <566C536F.8080507@hiwaay.net> <566C5966.8020403@hiwaay.net> <566C75F3.1090801@b1t.name> <20151213083425.cd478df0.freebsd@edvax.de> Cc: FreeBSD Questions !!!! From: "William A. Mahaffey III" Message-ID: <566D7875.5000201@hiwaay.net> Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2015 07:59:27 -0553.75 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20151213083425.cd478df0.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2015 13:54:01 -0000 On 12/13/15 01:40, Polytropon wrote: > On Sat, 12 Dec 2015 21:30:59 +0200, Volodymyr Kostyrko wrote: >> On 12.12.2015 19:27, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: >>> 41 1 0xffffffff81c91000 963a67 nvidia.ko >> Can you try disabling this kernel module and deinstalling nvidia-driver >> package? It does THINGS to make rendering work like substituting >> original GL libraries with nVidia ones. > Correct. It only works with the nVidia cards or chips listed as > being compatible. For the specific hardware in question, it will > probably _not_ work. I have this problem here first hand. :-) > > A re-installation of the original GL libraries should then fix > this problem. I did follow the above recommendation & behavior changed a bit, but still nogo. When you say reinstall, is that pkg reinstall, or recompile ? I have used pkg almost exclusively here, notably including the libGL stuff .... Thanks & TIA & have a good one. -- William A. Mahaffey III ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war ever devised by man." -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Dec 13 14:09:55 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 869DDA4362E for ; Sun, 13 Dec 2015 14:09:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4EBCE1E60 for ; Sun, 13 Dec 2015 14:09:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-31-25.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.31.25]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A1DB12788F; Sun, 13 Dec 2015 15:04:39 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id tBDE4dJu003725; Sun, 13 Dec 2015 15:04:39 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2015 15:04:39 +0100 From: Polytropon To: "William A. Mahaffey III" Cc: FreeBSD Questions !!!! Subject: Re: problems running OpenGL code Message-Id: <20151213150439.22b16239.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <566D7875.5000201@hiwaay.net> References: <566C3DAD.8090809@hiwaay.net> <20151212173509.fba928df.freebsd@edvax.de> <566C51CB.8040604@hiwaay.net> <566C536F.8080507@hiwaay.net> <566C5966.8020403@hiwaay.net> <566C75F3.1090801@b1t.name> <20151213083425.cd478df0.freebsd@edvax.de> <566D7875.5000201@hiwaay.net> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2015 14:09:55 -0000 On Sun, 13 Dec 2015 07:59:27 -0553.75, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: > On 12/13/15 01:40, Polytropon wrote: > > On Sat, 12 Dec 2015 21:30:59 +0200, Volodymyr Kostyrko wrote: > >> On 12.12.2015 19:27, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: > >>> 41 1 0xffffffff81c91000 963a67 nvidia.ko > >> Can you try disabling this kernel module and deinstalling nvidia-driver > >> package? It does THINGS to make rendering work like substituting > >> original GL libraries with nVidia ones. > > Correct. It only works with the nVidia cards or chips listed as > > being compatible. For the specific hardware in question, it will > > probably _not_ work. I have this problem here first hand. :-) > > > > A re-installation of the original GL libraries should then fix > > this problem. > > > I did follow the above recommendation & behavior changed a bit, but > still nogo. When you say reinstall, is that pkg reinstall, or recompile > ? Doesn't matter - any of those will make sure that nVidia's GL libs (which usually only work with nVidia GPU + X driver) will be overwritten with the default ones supplied by typical X installations. > I have used pkg almost exclusively here, notably including the libGL > stuff .... That should be fine. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Dec 13 17:47:02 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20F8DA436A0 for ; Sun, 13 Dec 2015 17:47:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from schultz@ime.usp.br) Received: from iris.ime.usp.br (iris.ime.usp.br [143.107.45.5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D179A1459 for ; Sun, 13 Dec 2015 17:47:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from schultz@ime.usp.br) Received: from hpmini (unknown [187.65.219.230]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: schultz@iris.ime.usp.br) by iris.ime.usp.br (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 426BB2900CF1; Sun, 13 Dec 2015 15:46:52 -0200 (BRST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=ime.usp.br; s=mail; t=1450028818; bh=Qe1zjFwNE1RMXCiwVoxEPGZNJgVfHQscxN6QsSl+CUA=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:From; b=cEmWMDgm3QetiHmDKLqZafXAykBsrQQORY1DSk0wybhiOXlyvH7x4RhQT+tpOpD3g rRL7WvdiusbL2BxT1AQcTMv+t6vPdthCESssT/ECKHlOvSSpFJ0yNqMqSwZOJ/r7kF DwJVT7IZ0aTSbmqciuDzz6hNmiGpjnxU+selKufA= Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2015 15:48:39 -0200 From: =?utf-8?B?THXDrXM=?= Fernando Schultz Xavier da Silveira To: "Herbert J. Skuhra" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Cleaning obsolete files after make installworld Message-ID: <20151213174839.GA871@hpmini> References: <20151205201107.GA19335@hpmini> <20151205204943.GA19890@hpmini> <20151213001435.GA6169@hpmini> <86egeqls9w.wl-h.skuhra@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <86egeqls9w.wl-h.skuhra@gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on iris.ime.usp.br X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2015 17:47:02 -0000 Hi, Indeed, I missed the include directive in the last line of ObsoleteFiles.inc. There are a really large number of files that failed to be included there. Now I understand the situation better and will send a problem report. Thank you, Luís Fernando On Sun, Dec 13, 2015 at 08:30:35AM +0100, Herbert J. Skuhra wrote: > On Sun, 13 Dec 2015 01:14:35 +0100, > Luís Fernando Schultz Xavier da Silveira wrote: > > > > Hello, > > > > > Check out the /usr/src/Makefile, particularly the # check-old and the # > > > delete-old sections. I've never found a need to use these, so I really am > > > uncertain how they would be used. But it seems as if they might come into > > > play after a make buildworld but prior to a make installworld. I could be > > > very wrong about that. But if you can track down how to actually use these > > > targets I think it may remedy the problem. > > > > I did use the delete-old functionality. The problem is the files persist > > even after that. > > > > The delete-old command does not seem to take into account software that > > was disabled in /etc/src.conf and needs to be removed. > > It does but there are some options (e.g. WITHOUT_INETD) missing in > /usr/src/tools/build/mk/OptionalObsoleteFiles.inc. > > I think for WITHOUT_INETD the following change is required: > > Index: tools/build/mk/OptionalObsoleteFiles.inc > =================================================================== > --- tools/build/mk/OptionalObsoleteFiles.inc (revision 291770) > +++ tools/build/mk/OptionalObsoleteFiles.inc (working copy) > @@ -2200,6 +2200,13 @@ > OLD_FILES+=rescue/ping6 > .endif > > +.if ${MK_INETD} == no > +OLD_FILES+=etc/inetd.conf > +OLD_FILES+=etc/rc.d/inetd > +OLD_FILES+=usr/sbin/inetd > +OLD_FILES+=usr/share/man/man8/inetd.8.gz > +.endif > + > #.if ${MK_INFO} == no > # to be filled in > #.endif > > -- > Herbert > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Dec 13 18:39:35 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BA2AA43D7B for ; Sun, 13 Dec 2015 18:39:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd@brightstar.bomgardner.net) Received: from brightstar.bomgardner.net (brightstar.bomgardner.net [63.229.207.48]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CB171FA6 for ; Sun, 13 Dec 2015 18:39:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd@brightstar.bomgardner.net) Received: from brightstar.bomgardner.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by brightstar.bomgardner.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 405B622F for ; Sun, 13 Dec 2015 12:31:24 -0600 (CST) From: "Gene" To: "Freebsd Questions" Subject: freebsd-update editor choice Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2015 12:31:22 -0600 Message-Id: <20151213182848.M69104@brightstar.bomgardner.net> X-Mailer: OpenWebMail 2.53 X-OriginatingIP: 192.168.0.17 (fbsd) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2015 18:39:35 -0000 Hi - I'm using freebsd-update to update my 10.1 system to 10.2. When merging files, it insists on using the 'vi' editor. I really, really, REALLY, despise vi. Is there a way to get it to use another editor? Thanks, -- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Dec 13 18:42:35 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF690A42001 for ; Sun, 13 Dec 2015 18:42:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vsasjason@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wm0-x236.google.com (mail-wm0-x236.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::236]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 78CFB12B4 for ; Sun, 13 Dec 2015 18:42:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vsasjason@gmail.com) Received: by mail-wm0-x236.google.com with SMTP id n186so18251422wmn.0 for ; Sun, 13 Dec 2015 10:42:32 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=2bUOWa39r1hJQfVX4oGqbPWe+Omu59AtH9NjA8m3PX4=; b=q6BrKwpyxUZcBeEzxrtatOWqlvgBq11YC/Mr8vNw+QASdSYI5jV+lBViF0+5KP/rOV eesFUS55QYKzwZdE4c9H/wkZScKz7FuBY4DkPLIbg32GIYoXpi8w8eivh9WWAv2sOvOR cVlP8ekMEvUwq9vf07hltjidLwJ6yzC923FVimMO/+W5b96FHxdzcxCfo7jnDOP/0f9I N69F5eWG8CRIHPiIeEX9fa7EQ3mCCJ4JhiEu6EEfmWZk2DVmdEp4IJbOt8QtKIOfjl5S SMRmbZQFrzfv9azB4+/d2BUIPtO+kqntW2I16AHhC2rSAGNLR9XlJEWLRuiZK+0LWiMs JaoQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.194.236.228 with SMTP id ux4mr33438742wjc.56.1450032150997; Sun, 13 Dec 2015 10:42:30 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.194.55.2 with HTTP; Sun, 13 Dec 2015 10:42:30 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.194.55.2 with HTTP; Sun, 13 Dec 2015 10:42:30 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20151213182848.M69104@brightstar.bomgardner.net> References: <20151213182848.M69104@brightstar.bomgardner.net> Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2015 20:42:30 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: freebsd-update editor choice From: Anton Sayetsky To: Gene Cc: Freebsd Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2015 18:42:35 -0000 13 =D0=B4=D0=B5=D0=BA. 2015 =D0=B3. 20:39 =D0=BF=D0=BE=D0=BB=D1=8C=D0=B7=D0= =BE=D0=B2=D0=B0=D1=82=D0=B5=D0=BB=D1=8C "Gene" =D0=BD=D0=B0=D0=BF=D0=B8=D1=81=D0=B0=D0=BB: > > > Hi - > > I'm using freebsd-update to update my 10.1 system to 10.2. When merging files, > it insists on using the 'vi' editor. I really, really, REALLY, despise vi. Is > there a way to get it to use another editor? I hope that you don't want to use some editor for noobs, like ee. Solution to your problem is setting EDITOR environment variable. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Dec 13 19:02:25 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D823A42E9E for ; Sun, 13 Dec 2015 19:02:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lenzi.sergio@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qg0-x231.google.com (mail-qg0-x231.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c04::231]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0DFB41CAF for ; Sun, 13 Dec 2015 19:02:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lenzi.sergio@gmail.com) Received: by qgew101 with SMTP id w101so32195130qge.2 for ; Sun, 13 Dec 2015 11:02:24 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=subject:from:to:cc:in-reply-to:references :disposition-notification-to:content-type:date:message-id :mime-version; bh=uV2FNTlscxHUklXQOVWwG9uPC0re54A2MVf2Tv26RSA=; b=wIsCDCRDPDhzUBsPAHvUmULaexEh8FaWggaYuhsNWlYGwBMCn/ox59rI66ofeiaCot T++8MWqvj/MFF5kPVyF99ti2qJgQwtybF8KFnldAIjDi+m9yEIO9QhTBnjnXeA8yy16B hc6UERGOqCoBBMHfV3iBTkK1Nv9F5G7USiTq0fbji9FsLCAK0ToVSBxlB/hzeVsphZLE fdP9OK016+icNLM6+I0M8QgXz+p35Ckp9r8i5B/A6fMzRq7qgFKGx4uHyf9c5d4xQUs+ OvpJmmca+jo1tT6EaevE5MgHPXlqyxLtFjs8lO5GVy4um4qmDObTfFpPR48jMBbxb1my CXjg== X-Received: by 10.140.101.130 with SMTP id u2mr37316928qge.2.1450033344136; Sun, 13 Dec 2015 11:02:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.6.123] ([179.184.51.72]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id c67sm12365814qgd.29.2015.12.13.11.02.22 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 13 Dec 2015 11:02:23 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Migrating to FreeBSD from Debian From: Sergio de Almeida Lenzi To: Paul Stuffins Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <5667338D.8010100@ravexdata.com> References: <201512081624.42766.dr.klepp@gmx.at> <56670E3D.1050001@ravexdata.com> <201512081943.35997.dr.klepp@gmx.at> <5667338D.8010100@ravexdata.com> Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2015 17:02:35 -0200 Message-ID: <1450033355.5021.24.camel@lenzinote.lenzicasa> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.32.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2015 19:02:25 -0000 Em Ter, 2015-12-08 às 19:46 +0000, Paul Stuffins escreveu: > > > > I'm looking for a maildir capable GUI mailclient for FreeBSD. My > transition from Debian to FreeBSD is stuck in the middle for a year as > I still have to use Devuan+TDE for my office work, not at least > because of kmail. I know, KDE comes with a kind of kmail, but that > does not fit the bill (akonadi + nepomik ... *shudder*). > > > > Nik > Sorry, I can't help you there. I use Windows on the desktop and will > be > moving to FreeBSD on my servers. If any of you wants a FULL functional FreeBSD desktop and server, You can use My build. it is a 1810 packages based on Mate http://mate-desktop.org and is used for both server and desktop/notebooks... several companies and people uses it All you have to do is go or create a directory named /etc/pkg inside, put only ONE ONE file named=matedesktop.conf with the following information: ------------------------cut------------------------ DIST64: { url: http://dist64.k1.com.br/${ABI}, enabled: yes } -----------------------cut------------------------- this must be THE ONLY ONE FILE IN THE directory than.... the command: pkg install -y mate installs about 1GB of the desktop fully usable.... if you do not have the "pkg" command, you can fetch on from => do not forget to create a NON ROOT ACCOUNT with known password and directory within the group wheel, and webcamd with the command= pw useradd user -m -g wheel -G webcamd -h 0 Enable the desktop with the command: sysrc gnome_enable=YES edit the file: /usr/local/etc/gdm/custom.conf change the line 88 to===> #0=inactive Test if your X is working.... using xinit than.... Reboot, log into your new created user. customize the desktop... If you have any needs, I can build anoter packages on demand... remember: ROOT USERS (uid=0) DO NOT LOG INTO the graphical interface.. You can choose the language to use in the login screen, the keyboard and language is configure in the System -> preferences-> keyboard Some screenshots... => http://www.k1.com.br/screenshots/index.html After install, and working, you can always update it with the command: pkg upgrade -y using the ROOT ACCOUNT The repositories are binary updated every week. Enjoy... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Dec 13 19:16:49 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FF28A43791 for ; Sun, 13 Dec 2015 19:16:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from ms-10.1blu.de (ms-10.1blu.de [178.254.4.101]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0511D10EC for ; Sun, 13 Dec 2015 19:16:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from [80.187.97.68] (helo=localhost.unixarea.de) by ms-10.1blu.de with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1a8C8L-0002XG-SC; Sun, 13 Dec 2015 20:16:38 +0100 Received: from localhost.my.domain (c720-r285885-amd64 [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.unixarea.de (8.15.2/8.14.9) with ESMTPS id tBDJGaqc001710 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 13 Dec 2015 20:16:36 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: (from guru@localhost) by localhost.my.domain (8.15.2/8.14.9/Submit) id tBDJGXgQ001709; Sun, 13 Dec 2015 20:16:33 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) X-Authentication-Warning: localhost.my.domain: guru set sender to guru@unixarea.de using -f Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2015 20:16:33 +0100 From: Matthias Apitz To: Anton Sayetsky Cc: Gene , Freebsd Questions Subject: Re: freebsd-update editor choice Message-ID: <20151213191633.GB1588@c720-r285885-amd64> Reply-To: Matthias Apitz Mail-Followup-To: Matthias Apitz , Anton Sayetsky , Gene , Freebsd Questions References: <20151213182848.M69104@brightstar.bomgardner.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 11.0-CURRENT r285885 (amd64) User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-Con-Id: 51246 X-Con-U: 0-guru X-Originating-IP: 80.187.97.68 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2015 19:16:49 -0000 El día Sunday, December 13, 2015 a las 08:42:30PM +0200, Anton Sayetsky escribió: > 13 дек. 2015 г. 20:39 пользователь "Gene" > написал: > > > > > > Hi - > > > > I'm using freebsd-update to update my 10.1 system to 10.2. When merging > files, > > it insists on using the 'vi' editor. I really, really, REALLY, despise > vi. Is > > there a way to get it to use another editor? > I hope that you don't want to use some editor for noobs, like ee. Solution > to your problem is setting EDITOR environment variable. What about 'ed'? Or even better: //IEBUPDTE EXEC PGM=IEBUPDTE,PARM=NEW //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=A //SYSUT2 DD DISP=(NEW,CATLG),DSN=KC03H11.NEW22.PDS, // SPACE=(CYL,(5,5,5),RLSE), // RECFM=FB,LRECL=80,BLKSIZE=0 //SYSIN DD * Hello World /* // (I was used to it in the 80' of the last century) matthias -- Matthias Apitz, ✉ guru@unixarea.de, 🌐 http://www.unixarea.de/ ☎ +49-176-38902045 From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Dec 13 19:22:31 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7684A43D63 for ; Sun, 13 Dec 2015 19:22:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vsasjason@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wm0-x236.google.com (mail-wm0-x236.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::236]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 566201551 for ; Sun, 13 Dec 2015 19:22:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vsasjason@gmail.com) Received: by mail-wm0-x236.google.com with SMTP id p66so35521673wmp.1 for ; Sun, 13 Dec 2015 11:22:31 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=xCKcRBpmMeZEcq+XU3+uLtbhK8d79PyBWtVTE3LsGp4=; b=Q1fd7UR28yDWs9TwNWrXMBsECzrstX0CGAD76W3Lj0WhRsxKHtL+lPp5gZSRde65F9 Qvl/RhUR9YgY0+oKw4JNFtlyjjJRY1kaNMvw93J0jSYU8WHU0NAKInZwtID5forPDFMH 41Kws7MYATcvR2isJgNV2/K01lS8tGI8ZbUpNmTcu5/z5gGDlJRDl1voac7XgkhW/gM7 XFpKKrxqyGlJl+JQCYKJfdjryllFzWESGC4ykfRVBApJfoc8Er+4v8iwZ79+NSqfAG6t XRi0IfU+70cZLte4+cW66VdQzuE6JJxI58dYZI+C0BXgQvZLAL9eJ0tkA+mJJzrH9jTu +XGg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.195.13.137 with SMTP id ey9mr37523006wjd.81.1450034549948; Sun, 13 Dec 2015 11:22:29 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.194.55.2 with HTTP; Sun, 13 Dec 2015 11:22:29 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.194.55.2 with HTTP; Sun, 13 Dec 2015 11:22:29 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20151213191633.GB1588@c720-r285885-amd64> References: <20151213182848.M69104@brightstar.bomgardner.net> <20151213191633.GB1588@c720-r285885-amd64> Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2015 21:22:29 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: freebsd-update editor choice From: Anton Sayetsky To: Gene , Matthias Apitz , Freebsd Questions Cc: Gene Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2015 19:22:31 -0000 13 =D0=B4=D0=B5=D0=BA. 2015 =D0=B3. 21:16 =D0=BF=D0=BE=D0=BB=D1=8C=D0=B7=D0= =BE=D0=B2=D0=B0=D1=82=D0=B5=D0=BB=D1=8C "Matthias Apitz" =D0=BD=D0=B0=D0=BF=D0=B8=D1=81=D0=B0=D0=BB: > > El d=C3=ADa Sunday, December 13, 2015 a las 08:42:30PM +0200, Anton Sayet= sky escribi=C3=B3: > > > 13 =D0=B4=D0=B5=D0=BA. 2015 =D0=B3. 20:39 =D0=BF=D0=BE=D0=BB=D1=8C=D0= =B7=D0=BE=D0=B2=D0=B0=D1=82=D0=B5=D0=BB=D1=8C "Gene" < fbsd@brightstar.bomgardner.net> > > =D0=BD=D0=B0=D0=BF=D0=B8=D1=81=D0=B0=D0=BB: > > > > > > > > > Hi - > > > > > > I'm using freebsd-update to update my 10.1 system to 10.2. When merging > > files, > > > it insists on using the 'vi' editor. I really, really, REALLY, despis= e > > vi. Is > > > there a way to get it to use another editor? > > I hope that you don't want to use some editor for noobs, like ee. Solution > > to your problem is setting EDITOR environment variable. > > What about 'ed'? Or even better: > > //IEBUPDTE EXEC PGM=3DIEBUPDTE,PARM=3DNEW > //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=3DA > //SYSUT2 DD DISP=3D(NEW,CATLG),DSN=3DKC03H11.NEW22.PDS, > // SPACE=3D(CYL,(5,5,5),RLSE), > // RECFM=3DFB,LRECL=3D80,BLKSIZE=3D0 > //SYSIN DD * > Hello World > /* > // > > (I was used to it in the 80' of the last century) Personally I prefer vim. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Dec 13 22:30:20 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 060A7A42C03 for ; Sun, 13 Dec 2015 22:30:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lenzi.sergio@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qk0-x232.google.com (mail-qk0-x232.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c09::232]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BB85A12DE for ; Sun, 13 Dec 2015 22:30:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lenzi.sergio@gmail.com) Received: by qkfb125 with SMTP id b125so111287266qkf.2 for ; Sun, 13 Dec 2015 14:30:18 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=subject:from:to:cc:in-reply-to:references :disposition-notification-to:content-type:date:message-id :mime-version; bh=aQIy15Xj3FZ/9Tv+Q3b4t445+LUSryBYX+QiOgaiXvI=; b=m53orS2Q+wXT73RFXqF8Ve94v2dvFkdq0+WcTgx0OLMCpAtjq9aj3I6sgykvb7o9/0 a+Hpr0F9HJYjbpjx83aMvwMjWfEpPQ9v8L0ZmjSIY0Tng5uTjpeS56inAdcu8AgrVQCY PoE0zbS1vBoHG9X4uQJtjy/nNss6gMglvPp0cYkpGzdo7wevblW2sII2H7WmIlCRNScy rXSWBzamJMzEsVM7EL39j2zQUIhrw8542a2QEV3heeQW62eHs6yjsCxYYH1pV+i46Qkf 5mJoD5rbID/BM+CV5/kaXN3BQjkF/mEA/FbdFFlzGju4T+JcNtfHApmsGsPAEnSZaueB QT3g== X-Received: by 10.55.72.18 with SMTP id v18mr37998567qka.34.1450045818800; Sun, 13 Dec 2015 14:30:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.6.123] ([179.184.51.72]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id c190sm12697785qkb.27.2015.12.13.14.30.17 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 13 Dec 2015 14:30:17 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: New UEFI MoBo, Slow Boots in "Legacy" From: Sergio de Almeida Lenzi To: Jason Van Patten Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <566B175E.5070406@lateapex.net> References: <566B175E.5070406@lateapex.net> Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2015 20:30:31 -0200 Message-ID: <1450045831.66253.1.camel@lenzinote.lenzicasa> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.32.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2015 22:30:20 -0000 Personally I NEVER ever buy a gigabyte product, as it is tailored for windows and nothing more... The same with Dell, Samsung, Acer... I prefer Lenovo, Asus From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Dec 14 00:19:47 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2648CA14CD9 for ; Mon, 14 Dec 2015 00:19:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd@brightstar.bomgardner.net) Received: from brightstar.bomgardner.net (brightstar.bomgardner.net [63.229.207.48]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0575D122E for ; Mon, 14 Dec 2015 00:19:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd@brightstar.bomgardner.net) Received: from brightstar.bomgardner.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by brightstar.bomgardner.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAEE3BE; Sun, 13 Dec 2015 18:19:44 -0600 (CST) From: "Gene" To: Anton Sayetsky Cc: Freebsd Questions Subject: Re: freebsd-update editor choice Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2015 18:19:44 -0600 Message-Id: <20151214001912.M44704@brightstar.bomgardner.net> In-Reply-To: References: <20151213182848.M69104@brightstar.bomgardner.net> X-Mailer: OpenWebMail 2.53 X-OriginatingIP: 192.168.0.17 (fbsd) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2015 00:19:47 -0000 On Sun, 13 Dec 2015 20:42:30 +0200, Anton Sayetsky wrote > 13 дек. 2015 г. 20:39 пользователь "Gene" написал: > > > > > > Hi - > > > > I'm using freebsd-update to update my 10.1 system to 10.2. When merging files, > > it insists on using the 'vi' editor. I really, really, REALLY, despise vi. Is > > there a way to get it to use another editor? > I hope that you don't want to use some editor for noobs, like ee. Solution to your problem is setting EDITOR environment variable. -- Could have sworn I did that... oops! Thanks By the way - back in the day (70's - 80's) I got really good with Wordstar. So today I kind of like Joe. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Dec 14 01:04:17 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21A41A0449A for ; Mon, 14 Dec 2015 01:04:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wm0-x230.google.com (mail-wm0-x230.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::230]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B32481C26 for ; Mon, 14 Dec 2015 01:04:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: by wmpp66 with SMTP id p66so40906375wmp.1 for ; Sun, 13 Dec 2015 17:04:14 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=lXtNaImGSUqLSI7d8z/1ix6ezJumml4Fj3ohWtPGX5M=; b=Gw7B6ZurwGWAzzjt/K+bVjnPQx0/BxghyKvI3GGmWNyDNncGDad5Gmjl/5NiMIYQTW 4jRXBR2IM98n9PGwXnXkukQevC2haEs5JLzd7bWRI4LR7uPCqu3yDojGoCCeNhrQiNyh zkonAO5IfsVEjCbiZLCGVYJn/YVq3xyk89R2/JB4gavFn+wuECFLB+oH597eD3YSihzR c1uep/sA0aOEALf28xGCD7B7jcTyoabPGiz4+FP1ljyoxr/zrYTgkF3IGB2+BJKwVIAG sJ7aQpic0joNhUGivgUvr0OTnK/G7sxw3xhHXM/u8Mz4QoOJJ6t3lgIclurK3fYLRpc9 HkKw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.194.240.67 with SMTP id vy3mr34566206wjc.168.1450055054419; Sun, 13 Dec 2015 17:04:14 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.194.192.33 with HTTP; Sun, 13 Dec 2015 17:04:14 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <20151213182848.M69104@brightstar.bomgardner.net> Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2015 19:04:14 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: freebsd-update editor choice From: Adam Vande More To: Anton Sayetsky Cc: Gene , Freebsd Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2015 01:04:17 -0000 On Sun, Dec 13, 2015 at 12:42 PM, Anton Sayetsky wrote: > 13 =D0=B4=D0=B5=D0=BA. 2015 =D0=B3. 20:39 =D0=BF=D0=BE=D0=BB=D1=8C=D0=B7= =D0=BE=D0=B2=D0=B0=D1=82=D0=B5=D0=BB=D1=8C "Gene" > =D0=BD=D0=B0=D0=BF=D0=B8=D1=81=D0=B0=D0=BB: > > > > > > Hi - > > > > I'm using freebsd-update to update my 10.1 system to 10.2. When merging > files, > > it insists on using the 'vi' editor. I really, really, REALLY, despise > vi. Is > > there a way to get it to use another editor? > I hope that you don't want to use some editor for noobs, like ee. Solutio= n > to your problem is setting EDITOR environment variable. > ee is a perfectly fine editor and there no reason to shame people for choosing it. --=20 Adam From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Dec 14 01:27:23 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3336A41C16 for ; Mon, 14 Dec 2015 01:27:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from luzar722@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pf0-x241.google.com (mail-pf0-x241.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400e:c00::241]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8B372124F for ; Mon, 14 Dec 2015 01:27:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from luzar722@gmail.com) Received: by pfbu66 with SMTP id u66so6095741pfb.2 for ; Sun, 13 Dec 2015 17:27:23 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=dCd23j6LEJkxTVqLMgwYQnwGsNjbFZU14IvevHzQk2U=; b=Eq10LKHDWeNvwqobr+oVBna1DCFBAbGwWGlg8/xcKUmuQ1ImgIbxY5TZ83mXfgZSeA UIOIKJ1/zvnq2uHUw8FfSXGrbttVbBAQxzOzxR9oLvWa+WOlhBS4Y5EB3YFGfiaLOhHf V/uEZQTNnB0kDpALBX6KFsvPkdSo0ir60V9Q48TDKlBlE7OdWv8xz0j4Bn7Fz3Y6GhTk +ShFg3+Z/aAPuGrDc5Za1gXepyg1bB1AFZYlpvdcq7BJ7AWB06Nb94uNx1rLz+kxNlBY vnJCRPVOpkgsJhNjIHav6hpWhDzdYKtcecUQ2Hb6mVxa6ApCk2mTMtjSgFZgFpNoodEA Sbhw== X-Received: by 10.98.15.67 with SMTP id x64mr32714013pfi.67.1450056443250; Sun, 13 Dec 2015 17:27:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.111.129] ([120.29.76.26]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id q70sm38321054pfa.12.2015.12.13.17.27.21 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 13 Dec 2015 17:27:22 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <566E1AF7.4040809@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2015 09:27:19 +0800 From: Ernie Luzar User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Matthias Apitz , Anton Sayetsky , Gene , Freebsd Questions Subject: Re: freebsd-update editor choice References: <20151213182848.M69104@brightstar.bomgardner.net> <20151213191633.GB1588@c720-r285885-amd64> In-Reply-To: <20151213191633.GB1588@c720-r285885-amd64> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2015 01:27:23 -0000 Matthias Apitz wrote: > El día Sunday, December 13, 2015 a las 08:42:30PM +0200, Anton Sayetsky escribió: > >> 13 дек. 2015 г. 20:39 пользователь "Gene" >> написал: >>> >>> Hi - >>> >>> I'm using freebsd-update to update my 10.1 system to 10.2. When merging >> files, >>> it insists on using the 'vi' editor. I really, really, REALLY, despise >> vi. Is >>> there a way to get it to use another editor? >> I hope that you don't want to use some editor for noobs, like ee. Solution >> to your problem is setting EDITOR environment variable. > > What about 'ed'? Or even better: > > //IEBUPDTE EXEC PGM=IEBUPDTE,PARM=NEW > //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=A > //SYSUT2 DD DISP=(NEW,CATLG),DSN=KC03H11.NEW22.PDS, > // SPACE=(CYL,(5,5,5),RLSE), > // RECFM=FB,LRECL=80,BLKSIZE=0 > //SYSIN DD * > Hello World > /* > // > > (I was used to it in the 80' of the last century) > > matthias > That is IBM MVS JCL and not runnable on Freebsd. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Dec 14 02:44:10 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D31FA43092 for ; Mon, 14 Dec 2015 02:44:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gregory.orange@calorieking.com) Received: from pandora.au.calorieking.net (mail.au.calorieking.net [115.70.179.114]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C1AE710CB for ; Mon, 14 Dec 2015 02:44:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gregory.orange@calorieking.com) Received: from pandora.au.calorieking.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pandora.au.calorieking.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFA9EF7 for ; Mon, 14 Dec 2015 10:43:47 +0800 (WST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at calorieking.com Received: from pandora.au.calorieking.net ([127.0.0.1]) by pandora.au.calorieking.net (mail.au.calorieking.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id GjucM9tnD88a for ; Mon, 14 Dec 2015 10:43:47 +0800 (WST) Received: from [192.168.2.118] (freia.ne1.au.calorieking.net [192.168.2.118]) by pandora.au.calorieking.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 6313EDE for ; Mon, 14 Dec 2015 10:43:47 +0800 (WST) Subject: Redundant router/firewall configuration (WAS: CARP demotion counter) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20151210182821.GM13477@mordor.lan> From: Gregory Orange Message-ID: <566E2CE3.3050706@calorieking.com> Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2015 10:43:47 +0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20151210182821.GM13477@mordor.lan> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2015 02:44:10 -0000 Hi Julien et al, On 11/12/15 02:28, Julien Cigar wrote: > I'm busy to setup a redundant router/firewall with two Soekris 6501, PF, > CARP and PFSync. I plan to embark on building a system like this soon. Can you share documentation, guides or other information that you are using to build this? Thanks, Greg. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Dec 14 03:24:52 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E768BA43085 for ; Mon, 14 Dec 2015 03:24:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gregory.orange@calorieking.com) Received: from pandora.au.calorieking.net (mail.au.calorieking.net [115.70.179.114]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8E7361D82 for ; Mon, 14 Dec 2015 03:24:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gregory.orange@calorieking.com) Received: from pandora.au.calorieking.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pandora.au.calorieking.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF86BF7 for ; Mon, 14 Dec 2015 11:24:43 +0800 (WST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at calorieking.com Received: from pandora.au.calorieking.net ([127.0.0.1]) by pandora.au.calorieking.net (mail.au.calorieking.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Wt93gvvJMFhU for ; Mon, 14 Dec 2015 11:24:43 +0800 (WST) Received: from [192.168.2.118] (freia.ne1.au.calorieking.net [192.168.2.118]) by pandora.au.calorieking.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 594D5DE for ; Mon, 14 Dec 2015 11:24:43 +0800 (WST) Subject: Re: Upgrade from 8.4 to 10.2 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: From: Gregory Orange Message-ID: <566E367B.70604@calorieking.com> Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2015 11:24:43 +0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2015 03:24:53 -0000 On 12/12/15 19:50, Peter Harrison via freebsd-questions wrote: > I have a server I want to upgrade from 8.4-R to 10.2 using a binary upgrade. > What's the preferred way of doing that? Ie. Should I jump to 9 first? And > can I safely do it remotely or do I need to be on front of the console? FWIW I successfully upgraded over a dozen FreeBSD 8.4 amd64 machines straight to 10.1 earlier this year, bypassing 9.x all together. One of the machines had bad enough problems to require a reinstall, but it was very old hardware and I didn't have physical access to it so I never got to the root cause. In the end we chucked it and got a new machine anyway. I don't want to negate the advice of going to 9 first - I'm just sharing my experience. HTH, Greg. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Dec 14 09:08:27 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EC8DA43659 for ; Mon, 14 Dec 2015 09:08:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jack@jarasoft.net) Received: from orac.jarasoft.net (orac.jarasoft.net [37.34.58.13]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "jarasoft.net", Issuer "COMODO RSA Domain Validation Secure Server CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 58A0E1B4A for ; Mon, 14 Dec 2015 09:08:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jack@jarasoft.net) Received: from orac.jarasoft.net (orac.jarasoft.net [37.34.58.13]) by orac.jarasoft.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 025E4115A17 for ; Mon, 14 Dec 2015 10:05:59 +0100 (CET) Received: from [10.10.10.20] (raats.xs4all.nl [82.95.230.43]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DES-CBC3-SHA (112/168 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by orac.jarasoft.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 661CB115998 for ; Mon, 14 Dec 2015 10:05:58 +0100 (CET) User-Agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/14.5.9.151119 Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2015 10:04:29 +0100 Subject: Updating a program From: Jack Raats To: Message-ID: Thread-Topic: Updating a program Mime-version: 1.0 X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP on orac.jarasoft.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2015 09:08:27 -0000 Hi, I have the following problem. I=B9ve installed dovecot using pkg install dovecot. After installing I used svn to update the /usr/src and /usr/ports. Portmaster =ADa does not update dovecot which I installed using pkg. How can I update dovecot? (I=B9m mentioning dovecot but in fact there are more programs I have to update) Thanks Greetings Jack Raats From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Dec 14 09:45:24 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8E2AA43532 for ; Mon, 14 Dec 2015 09:45:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from denis@incomproekt.ru) Received: from gw.incomproekt.ru (gw.incomproekt.ru [80.92.1.62]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 51AED1322 for ; Mon, 14 Dec 2015 09:45:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from denis@incomproekt.ru) Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([10.0.0.25]) by gw.incomproekt.ru (8.14.5/8.14.4) with ESMTP id tBE9SqZW033072; Mon, 14 Dec 2015 12:28:52 +0300 (MSK) (envelope-from denis@incomproekt.ru) Reply-To: denis@incomproekt.ru Subject: Re: Updating a program References: To: Jack Raats , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Makovkin Denis Message-ID: <566E8BC1.2060301@incomproekt.ru> Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2015 12:28:33 +0300 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2015 09:45:24 -0000 14.12.2015 12:04, Jack Raats пишет: > Hi, > > I have the following problem. I¹ve installed dovecot using pkg install > dovecot. > After installing I used svn to update the /usr/src and /usr/ports. > Portmaster ­a does not update dovecot which I installed using pkg. > How can I update dovecot? Why don't you try standart way of updating port's tree? I mean portsnap fetch update or portsnap fetch extract to start from scratch > (I¹m mentioning dovecot but in fact there are more programs I have to > update) > > Thanks > Greetings > Jack Raats > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > ----------------------------------------------------- Desine fata deum flecti sperare precando... 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Respectfully, Dumitru Sirbu From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Dec 14 12:14:20 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3C05A43FD1 for ; Mon, 14 Dec 2015 12:14:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from g8kbvdave@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-wm0-x232.google.com (mail-wm0-x232.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::232]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A77AC1FF6 for ; Mon, 14 Dec 2015 12:14:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from g8kbvdave@googlemail.com) Received: by wmpp66 with SMTP id p66so58085456wmp.1 for ; Mon, 14 Dec 2015 04:14:18 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=20120113; h=from:to:date:mime-version:subject:message-id:priority:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-description; bh=/z3MgvxTPf5U372Yd9MjrTzWkLHi+O9pCB9NkIZPA6Q=; b=Ib+4OqCiafrZmYrWQhOQfayDxa19YC18KPvFYqJx+tI4KJzYrKu2jNtVcC+RldPcHR WEdj2lH5NmsFYQ7r+XHDsRp5wlxmmGaqWWh/bkHY+Xxo4dA5/iaWG+D2GrGKVVcdmpA/ pP6AX67F60659mbDyZ39qq6KBjg0f8izqNDPPf1pbJy04+B0mpaoUEajVYAn6Os8222u 5poxi3rzHmfeJ06bt4/fTbaIV9RMNSEsVap+vwPZAzuUPNQamAeQdr1EqZfJeIiYKaap PMwfox+HwEaiSDL/gLbZovxKMCh19bBFiMQQJpnOPcDpB5deBI4XMREruxAVFU83gMgs cptw== X-Received: by 10.28.183.198 with SMTP id h189mr22766552wmf.44.1450095257907; Mon, 14 Dec 2015 04:14:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.16.61] ([217.41.35.220]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id dl8sm29523247wjb.29.2015.12.14.04.14.16 for (version=TLS1 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 14 Dec 2015 04:14:17 -0800 (PST) From: "Dave B" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2015 12:14:16 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: FreeBSD IRC channel access? Message-ID: <566EB298.860.C89ACC@g8kbvdave.googlemail.com> Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.62) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2015 12:14:20 -0000 Hi. I'm still looking for help to get a simple ovpn system up and running, the suggestions here a few weeks back were helpful (but I still can't join the dot's) so was wondering about asking on the FreeBSD IRC channel. However, it seems these days that a username and password is needed, that I don't yet have... I've had great help from others on that (and other) channels in the past, but the F'BSD chat channel is locked down now. So, where do I go to register a username and password for that via Freenode. Regards to All. Dave B. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Dec 14 12:29:24 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAE7DA41B7D for ; Mon, 14 Dec 2015 12:29:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from robert@indylix.nl) Received: from mail.indylix.nl (mail.indylix.nl [31.220.44.23]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7447717DF for ; Mon, 14 Dec 2015 12:29:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from robert@indylix.nl) Subject: Re: FreeBSD IRC channel access? DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=indylix.nl; s=o26EqTc7; t=1450095781; bh=r1E1V+D6ubC18PzVXUrAqGWX/D0+Mpz3HrsHnRHn8tU=; h=Subject:To:References:From:Date:In-Reply-To; b=c6pTBPH8C8lLON2M0eN9FHdf1MEFNFuGJL5NPJQmszBuWgaPQ5a/cSsAuZjmqUv3P Ixhg5uZpIX0UkxCHnxEZT1JRRwm6baOFQrboxp6a0ZzRTIYB1lK42fEBv2qsSHKe8Y kxmM6fsvb2XNTEytrVDWkBS8Ny5z6DYjFf6wHEupPbQkV6jen0hoc6YvXwgdPLt478 VPPNiM1L3S0+IkgP755YtITFKyYJJa62ECwjGiRbMRbodhfmTlv7Ogdj/jVq3P43Ri moeEZu3vlyrD3/kUs3nelueeFipBZBwdVNJinrHxf74DI2vxUZ7OAvTA2RqRhyCWH8 2cO//wfzBX8nw== To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <566EB298.860.C89ACC@g8kbvdave.googlemail.com> From: Robert Sevat Message-ID: <566EB4A5.6090205@indylix.nl> Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2015 13:23:01 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <566EB298.860.C89ACC@g8kbvdave.googlemail.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="afbiJNqT3InvFMkOnPnoGSNUu3OaaI7Jp" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2015 12:29:24 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --afbiJNqT3InvFMkOnPnoGSNUu3OaaI7Jp Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey Dave, You do not need a password to join #freebsd on freenode. You do however need to be identified with NickServ to be able to join the channel, otherwise you get the following error message: "[23:21:35] * #freebsd: Cannot join channel (+r) - you need to be identified with services" So register your nick name: "/msg nickserv register $password $e-mail" And then identify your self: "/msg nickserv identify $password" You should now be able to join #freebsd. If you can't figure out how to register a user name, join #freenode, they will be able to assist you with this. Good luck. Kind Regards, Robert Sevat On 12/14/2015 01:14 PM, Dave B via freebsd-questions wrote: > Hi. > > I'm still looking for help to get a simple ovpn system up and running, = the=20 > suggestions here a few weeks back were helpful (but I still can't join = the dot's)=20 > so was wondering about asking on the FreeBSD IRC channel. > > However, it seems these days that a username and password is needed, th= at I=20 > don't yet have... > > I've had great help from others on that (and other) channels in the pas= t, but the=20 > F'BSD chat channel is locked down now. > > So, where do I go to register a username and password for that via Free= node. > > Regards to All. > > Dave B. > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd= =2Eorg" --afbiJNqT3InvFMkOnPnoGSNUu3OaaI7Jp Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJWbrSlAAoJEOBNTiYXv1P0dokP/1rRzsNndmK6BWIc71DpiTTj sCkTC0EIHFC9ye2UtEusYNJY9L43CzSaNlj/UTts7nbdiPVD29Kshc5iFlMdy/fq bVzT7LoKkDErry+iCAq3wbbDs5pm05bz5ZygvrYFJQPZ1n+t/i78SYutkC5cPPZ/ VFquHKv/rw4aKyA+6n822M5Vs2DeMCV4JOHplJucSTEN79lXRs6yV5iCi9cI1Gbf lEhB1FuETOPvjaBRZV+iQlXlqh/z114tyaLVpeH4IwMppJIHyj/s2Hd4/NV4Fmza cwgZJzAuL1l8nEyjx8auys5hoSnFF1frksQ/lTy38YE8rR95fKQwIq8nhAhCFZYF jWDAz/8Y+bYQAF7EbbPN3Fdgi6Zn1ymicw4SgHP1uYLeQqKUFXDxUEubD1BX+p1/ tEIzOSIIJigShJzp+nYDRLS6ovUxoempsUf/mGa6D/NHahPXiopTWgHNJHWdQVh+ CXDrppikpGUt/hifDuAT2uE25P9LSLBZzDYd0b5u3n281YD8bEvoM1SsvLmpjba4 2cCxWgIbi+ZOjKtJDd2aTz+MuOp4MkvXh2UyiRp2Ug3l688WgcIhQMYeNsijvC9m BtMg9MfaqUGnQ5kVnmI1yi7PRYuRvCUAUFn5APoXy4viPqwWH9ujeMb08Rmnld6R q6bWSe1RZZK/FHULIXqw =hsmY -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --afbiJNqT3InvFMkOnPnoGSNUu3OaaI7Jp-- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Dec 14 12:45:24 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23017A42BDF for ; Mon, 14 Dec 2015 12:45:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sergeig.public@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vk0-x235.google.com (mail-vk0-x235.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400c:c05::235]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DAECB1779 for ; Mon, 14 Dec 2015 12:45:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sergeig.public@gmail.com) Received: by vkha189 with SMTP id a189so152413191vkh.2 for ; Mon, 14 Dec 2015 04:45:22 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=e2Y9ZCPEIRNvdAT6XQ3tTFOycsE3QmwyxkK1D/3vcXA=; b=eOQIbrf+zTxPfKVwXGzOJblFO08LDNZBZk23UsUSw8Tir0NutenG7gQ40qCW0QuZqY 4xuVYbcdSbMYdkP4jkn8IhdKub90/z60PS2QsjVG0nXjZ/YKNBtfsdGImecdCvd+HTC4 HoGr88too6cBiK3OKlgZbnmxNehWwABOUp3IKVupTAOQ0yQEEUh6IF1lVOdfRmlcIi0+ O8wnpyL6yC7kO82sQTNh0e0oRK7Q5Ma5S2fLZkQODT3mO1tpb4UMQFZ406c5bYyf2gvC gZ2JJLqCYXf723xYt11nvzSWQMVjGZYAIMzCDAOheT5Bll9mAN5+IfouDrgx0sCNSk2E rt3g== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.31.2.82 with SMTP id 79mr5626882vkc.22.1450097122733; Mon, 14 Dec 2015 04:45:22 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.31.174.213 with HTTP; Mon, 14 Dec 2015 04:45:22 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2015 04:45:22 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: pkg search -x stopped working From: Sergei G To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2015 12:45:24 -0000 One of my jails stopped returning any search results for command: pkg search -x any_name_like_vim_emacs I then run the same command from other jail and it lists available options. Is there a way to reset pkg repository of remotely available packages, without affecting actually installed packages? Thanks From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Dec 14 12:48:17 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A560A42ED9 for ; Mon, 14 Dec 2015 12:48:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@sohara.org) Received: from uk1mail2513.mymailbank.co.uk (UK1MAIL2513-PERMANET.IE.mymailbank.co.uk [217.69.47.44]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 054B718E7 for ; Mon, 14 Dec 2015 12:48:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@sohara.org) Received: from smtp.lan.sohara.org (UnknownHost [88.151.27.41]) by uk1mail2513-d.mymailbank.co.uk with SMTP; Mon, 14 Dec 2015 12:47:50 +0000 Received: from [192.168.63.1] (helo=steve.lan.sohara.org) by smtp.lan.sohara.org with smtp (Exim 4.85 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1a8SXc-0005FL-7G; Mon, 14 Dec 2015 12:47:48 +0000 Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2015 12:47:43 +0000 From: Steve O'Hara-Smith To: Jack Raats Cc: Subject: Re: Updating a program Message-Id: <20151214124743.8acdaa664ccc92a636b8aca9@sohara.org> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.4.3 (GTK+ 2.24.28; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.1) X-Clacks-Overhead: "GNU Terry Pratchett" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2015 12:48:17 -0000 On Mon, 14 Dec 2015 10:04:29 +0100 Jack Raats wrote: > Hi, > > I have the following problem. I¹ve installed dovecot using pkg install > dovecot. > After installing I used svn to update the /usr/src and /usr/ports. > Portmaster ­a does not update dovecot which I installed using pkg. > How can I update dovecot? > (I¹m mentioning dovecot but in fact there are more programs I have to > update) pkg update is the command you want. -- Steve O'Hara-Smith From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Dec 14 12:58:36 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2928BA4370C for ; Mon, 14 Dec 2015 12:58:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from denis@incomproekt.ru) Received: from gw.incomproekt.ru (gw.incomproekt.ru [80.92.1.62]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B0E181E8E for ; Mon, 14 Dec 2015 12:58:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from denis@incomproekt.ru) Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([10.0.0.25]) by gw.incomproekt.ru (8.14.5/8.14.4) with ESMTP id tBECwUh6047391 for ; Mon, 14 Dec 2015 15:58:30 +0300 (MSK) (envelope-from denis@incomproekt.ru) Reply-To: denis@incomproekt.ru Subject: Re: pkg search -x stopped working References: To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Makovkin Denis Message-ID: <566EBCE3.4090501@incomproekt.ru> Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2015 15:58:11 +0300 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2015 12:58:36 -0000 14.12.2015 15:45, Sergei G : > One of my jails stopped returning any search results for command: > > pkg search -x any_name_like_vim_emacs > > I then run the same command from other jail and it lists available options. > > Is there a way to reset pkg repository of remotely available packages, > without affecting actually installed packages? try pkg update -f > > > Thanks > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- , "" (4852) 32-90-94, 30-36-47() ----------------------------------------------------- Desine fata deum flecti sperare precando... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Dec 14 13:21:23 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD485A44740 for ; Mon, 14 Dec 2015 13:21:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@bertram-scharpf.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [212.227.17.13]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3489D1370 for ; Mon, 14 Dec 2015 13:21:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@bertram-scharpf.de) Received: from becker.bs.l ([85.180.4.102]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue103) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MMHDp-1a9sEv06bF-00853s for ; Mon, 14 Dec 2015 14:21:20 +0100 Received: from bsch by becker.bs.l with local (Exim 4.86 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1a8T43-000HKY-9l for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 14 Dec 2015 14:21:19 +0100 Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2015 14:21:19 +0100 From: Bertram Scharpf To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Updating a program Message-ID: <20151214132119.GA66324@becker.bs.l> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <566E8BC1.2060301@incomproekt.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In-Reply-To: <566E8BC1.2060301@incomproekt.ru> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.24 (2015-08-30) Sender: Bertram Scharpf X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:Vi+kgp13y70Y0Ao2mQko3LP552976NOfZ0/+5Gbtd8jDVaru57a YFLhXs8NoEhIuCJHFjEXYJSXbkaNmLgifa81NUENymzN4ooUvkdKwt/UV0WFND4hhsHOX8p BFdp8zFjkV2pKqdSlVeUQqJPSUTUmJ0eBnwol3du2YCVJSV0q3JoOqu8yFamhmNMgKtuONm oP9mTirM+XtZ866jmBxFA== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:+dmXe8vj4GA=:qiPL70MOYO/7k60EViNX2Z 2Ba6ZyBj/MJXqrpihEWaWrGlSpJNRa+NPDERfI3LbcwFgblDtvY4CcUZUvNFNoURLD95Q3OC5 5BS0qZKIZfEYEjzoiSxW7022F9SHLVTwMQWogXJCl+ifetJ98FolzFISpa+O60CmoHbpzXS4t QvVnLrD499deUKN1tm8GBVh62A3jOW+iEByb/a5IhxVwVi91f3KhNHRAJuFnhE0P598D7Mp/E 1IYJnsT260IXGKAPpsbRD4Sb8ZiZq/YeJ0I6YOLt+2OLuNiKHt5UY7opHV5tpSQXQAxp4UKgN YkhTNkF3pOE43uExxOw+hWynJ5tYAEWbfmqmj0fe0+z5jZqQRVzweMAclqyvYEKPTt2viYMtk 5Gmf+Fa64Ki9Fyd/6MUX/3yYE5VyRhnWsMZRPA53LoZGC4c1FetNrKUHFxaScnD9RWYCvc6uQ wqshB8u8nCxfeyKv2W/gA23iQ41zKobRHu+hmPfGUwt3TF+fN9jpnc+wC4AoN3QqjmCbuPSZ5 Hngrv5RvCaSb6WixKbCyKVmVCzh0A2PGV+/id3YuhayrYhL49+knXtYcbj503oZholH7rfefN W+LBpHcxFWBh0iRSfLEn9KK8SExXjxEwVDfxSavOCRrYTFwVtCTsyanRhNaFrkhk+sbO42CD7 h8lHM9oNxbNWqfyavkya7kte7nKYKunFqzEeo2S2Anvl4ollPTSp3wftuN79Hr76U8JU= X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2015 13:21:23 -0000 Hi, On Monday, 14. Dec 2015, 12:28:33 +0300, Makovkin Denis wrote: > 14.12.2015 12:04, Jack Raats =D0=BF=D0=B8=D1=88=D0=B5=D1=82: > > I have the following problem. I=C2=B9ve installed dovecot using pkg ins= tall > > dovecot. > > After installing I used svn to update the /usr/src and /usr/ports. > > Portmaster =C2=ADa does not update dovecot which I installed using pkg. > > How can I update dovecot? > Why don't you try standart way of updating port's tree? I mean >=20 > portsnap fetch update > or > portsnap fetch extract > to start from scratch I do not use Portsnap either. I'm using Git to update the ports tree and I have a good reason to do so. I wrote some tweaks and I removed the so-called "reformed orthography" =66rom the German translations. After fetching the updates I merge these changes in before I update the ports. Portsnap cannot do that. Bertram --=20 Bertram Scharpf Stuttgart, Deutschland/Germany http://www.bertram-scharpf.de From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Dec 14 13:56:56 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAA14A43B0B for ; Mon, 14 Dec 2015 13:56:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: from cosmo.uchicago.edu (cosmo.uchicago.edu [128.135.70.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACA531CB2 for ; Mon, 14 Dec 2015 13:56:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: by cosmo.uchicago.edu (Postfix, from userid 48) id 8355ACB8CA3; Mon, 14 Dec 2015 07:29:38 -0600 (CST) Received: from 76.193.16.129 (SquirrelMail authenticated user valeri) by cosmo.uchicago.edu with HTTP; Mon, 14 Dec 2015 07:29:38 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <53929.76.193.16.129.1450099778.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2015 07:29:38 -0600 (CST) Subject: Re: pkg search -x stopped working From: "Valeri Galtsev" To: "Sergei G" Cc: "FreeBSD Questions" Reply-To: galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.8-5.el5.centos.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2015 13:56:56 -0000 On Mon, December 14, 2015 6:45 am, Sergei G wrote: > One of my jails stopped returning any search results for command: > > pkg search -x any_name_like_vim_emacs > > I then run the same command from other jail and it lists available > options. > > Is there a way to reset pkg repository of remotely available packages, > without affecting actually installed packages? > First thing I would check that the file /usr/local/etc/pkg/repos/FreeBSD.conf exists and has something like FreeBSD: { url: "pkg+http://pkg.FreeBSD.org/${ABI}/latest", mirror_type: "srv", signature_type: "fingerprints", fingerprints: "/usr/share/keys/pkg", enabled: yes } in it. Valeri ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Valeri Galtsev Sr System Administrator Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics University of Chicago Phone: 773-702-4247 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Dec 14 15:27:59 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AE9FA4464D for ; Mon, 14 Dec 2015 15:27:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "wonkity.com", Issuer "wonkity.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0A94C10C9 for ; Mon, 14 Dec 2015 15:27:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id tBEFRvr2011270 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 14 Dec 2015 08:27:57 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) with ESMTP id tBEFRv3k011267; Mon, 14 Dec 2015 08:27:57 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2015 08:27:57 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: Jack Raats cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Updating a program In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (BSF 67 2015-01-07) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Mon, 14 Dec 2015 08:27:57 -0700 (MST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2015 15:27:59 -0000 On Mon, 14 Dec 2015, Jack Raats wrote: > I have the following problem. Ive installed dovecot using pkg install > dovecot. > After installing I used svn to update the /usr/src and /usr/ports. > Portmaster a does not update dovecot which I installed using pkg. Does it need to be updated? Remember, after installation it does not matter whether it was installed from a port or a package, it's all the same. If the package was the latest version, portmaster will not update it. Possibly the package been locked to prevent changes. > How can I update dovecot? > (Im mentioning dovecot but in fact there are more programs I have to > update) Mixing pre-built packages with building from ports can be complicated, and it is usually easier to stick with one method. 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[63.231.131.191]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id p5sm6603180igj.10.2015.12.14.07.27.06 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 14 Dec 2015 07:27:06 -0800 (PST) References: From: Brandon J. Wandersee To: Jack Raats Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Updating a program In-reply-to: Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2015 09:27:05 -0600 Message-ID: <86vb81xd86.fsf@WorkBox.Home> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2015 18:09:13 -0000 Jack Raats writes: > Portmaster ­a does not update dovecot which I installed using pkg. Sorry to ask the obvious, but does portmaster state that there are updates available for these ports? If the version you've installed from the package repository is the same or newer than that in the ports tree, then of course running `portmaster -a` won't do anything. If portmaster says updates are available but they're not building, then there should be accompanying error messages. -- ================================================================= :: Brandon Wandersee :: :: brandon.wandersee@gmail.com :: ================================================================== 'A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools.' - Douglas Adams ================================================================== From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Dec 14 19:47:57 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F0D8A43FF8 for ; Mon, 14 Dec 2015 19:47:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd@brightstar.bomgardner.net) Received: from brightstar.bomgardner.net (brightstar.bomgardner.net [63.229.207.48]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 626731F84 for ; Mon, 14 Dec 2015 19:47:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd@brightstar.bomgardner.net) Received: from brightstar.bomgardner.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by brightstar.bomgardner.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF34F187 for ; Mon, 14 Dec 2015 13:47:51 -0600 (CST) From: "Gene" To: "Freebsd Questions" Subject: freebsd-update, ZFS, and ver 8.2 Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2015 13:47:50 -0600 Message-Id: <20151214194012.M53329@brightstar.bomgardner.net> X-Mailer: OpenWebMail 2.53 X-OriginatingIP: 192.168.0.17 (fbsd) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2015 19:47:57 -0000 Hi - I'm going to update my AMD64 system: 8.2 -> 9.0 -> 10.2 My concern is that the boot resides on a zfs volume. Thus my question: Will freebsd-update correctly handle the ZFS boot volume? If not, is there any info around on handling this situation? Thanks for all your help, Gene -- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Dec 14 20:57:50 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C36AA449BF for ; Mon, 14 Dec 2015 20:57:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bryana@darth-vader.org) Received: from jedi.darth-vader.org (jedi.darth-vader.org [63.228.3.105]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "darth-vader.org", Issuer "CA Cert Signing Authority" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 205A118EA for ; Mon, 14 Dec 2015 20:57:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bryana@darth-vader.org) Received: by jedi.darth-vader.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 9CD4B8A5C28; Mon, 14 Dec 2015 14:49:49 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2015 14:49:49 -0600 From: Bryan Albright To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Upgrade question? Message-ID: <20151214204949.GA27984@darth-vader.org> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline X-Priority: 3 (Normal) User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.24 (2015-08-30) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2015 20:57:50 -0000 Hi folks! When upgrading from 8.4 to 9.3,in preparation to go from 9.3 to 10.2, does it make sense to do a full port upgrade, after checking /usr/ports/UPDATING (of course?) Something like a % portupgrade -a Between the update to 9.3 and the update to 10.2? Or can I "get away with" a update from 8.4 to 9.3, then update 9.3 to 10.2, then doa portupgrade -a? (and I'm open to a "better" method of upgrading ports - I've just been using a script to do the portupgrade since 2.2) Thanks! Bryan -- Bryan Albright The difference between the impossible and the possible lies in a person's determination... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Dec 14 21:46:57 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C543DA4483F for ; Mon, 14 Dec 2015 21:46:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dweimer@dweimer.net) Received: from webmail.dweimer.net (24-240-198-187.static.stls.mo.charter.com [24.240.198.187]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9A54D1D66 for ; Mon, 14 Dec 2015 21:46:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dweimer@dweimer.net) Received: from webmail.dweimer.local (localhost [192.168.5.2]) by webmail.dweimer.net (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id tBELknDe008424 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 14 Dec 2015 15:46:49 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dweimer@dweimer.net) Received: (from www@localhost) by webmail.dweimer.local (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id tBELknHc008423; Mon, 14 Dec 2015 15:46:49 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dweimer@dweimer.net) X-Authentication-Warning: webmail.dweimer.local: www set sender to dweimer@dweimer.net using -f To: FreeBSD Questions Subject: slightly off topic CUPS question X-PHP-Script: www.dweimer.net/webmail/index.php for 71.86.41.122, 192.168.5.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2015 15:46:49 -0600 From: dweimer Organization: dweimer.net Reply-To: dweimer@dweimer.net Mail-Reply-To: dweimer@dweimer.net Message-ID: <7c354cc21aa0e39e0137a6997717c8d1@dweimer.net> X-Sender: dweimer@dweimer.net User-Agent: Roundcube Webmail/1.1.3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2015 21:46:57 -0000 I know its a CUPS issue, but as I am trying to set up a FreeBSD server to host printers with CUPS, I was hoping someone here might be able to help me. I need to disable the server from searching for other network print servers and printers. We have a bunch of network devices that send alerts every time they get hit by an SNMP query, attempting to add a printer or modify one triggers 230+ emails. Not to mention being slow as its on a large subnet, however the majority of the printers it will be hosting are not on the local subnet. All the searching I have tried setting BrowseRemoteProtocols none in /usr/local/etc/cups/cups_browsed.conf Browsing Off BrowseLocalProtocols none in /usr/local/etc/cups/cupsd.conf No luck it still does it -- Thanks, Dean E. Weimer http://www.dweimer.net/ From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Dec 14 22:14:25 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09427A43778 for ; Mon, 14 Dec 2015 22:14:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from mail-in2.apple.com (mail-out2.apple.com [17.151.62.25]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E345E1234 for ; Mon, 14 Dec 2015 22:14:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from relay5.apple.com (relay5.apple.com [17.128.113.88]) by mail-in2.apple.com (Apple Secure Mail Relay) with SMTP id 1D.16.22498.6BB3F665; Mon, 14 Dec 2015 13:59:18 -0800 (PST) X-AuditID: 11973e11-f79a96d0000057e2-87-566f3bb64147 Received: from [17.149.230.112] (Unknown_Domain [17.149.230.112]) (using TLS with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by relay5.apple.com (Apple SCV relay) with SMTP id C3.0E.07593.6BB3F665; Mon, 14 Dec 2015 13:59:18 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Upgrade question? Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 9.2 \(3112\)) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Charles Swiger X-Priority: 3 (Normal) In-Reply-To: <20151214204949.GA27984@darth-vader.org> Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2015 13:59:17 -0800 Cc: FreeBSD - Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <64EF16E4-3992-40A1-B9E9-1238DEE0F6F3@mac.com> References: <20151214204949.GA27984@darth-vader.org> To: Bryan Albright X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3112) X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFtrJLMWRmVeSWpSXmKPExsUi2FAYobvNOj/M4P4KGYsn3Q/ZLV5+3cTi wOTxaEOVx4xP81kCmKK4bFJSczLLUov07RK4Mq6cXspWsJSr4ur9e+wNjE0cXYycHBICJhJP bvxjg7DFJC7cWw9kc3EICexllFiyYAGQwwFW9GejB0R8OpNE9+u9YA3CAnISh1YtZgexeQX0 JE6s2s0KYjMLaEnc+PeSCaSXTUBNYsJEHpj5E9b9YgaxOQVMJV4uncoIYrMIqErcm3iTGaJV V6LpxltGCFteYvvbOcwQ460kru/bDBYXAjrnTMNZMFtEQFti7owDjBDzZSX2bVgAdr+EwFdW iWe9W9kmMArPQnLeLCTnzUKyYwEj8ypGodzEzBzdzDwjvcSCgpxUveT83E2MoLCebie4g/H4 KqtDjAIcjEo8vAuY88OEWBPLiitzDzFKc7AoifN+MwMKCaQnlqRmp6YWpBbFF5XmpBYfYmTi 4JRqYLTSuGRWeHrmgtDwcxPi1NhYrToKeWPWP0/59TBsRpGI+KHWpUUzt7DaLqzhP7ko/Xbp XsHCGWp2Vzpsft7Tcqs/fu7DrIpa34PipwzZzhge6ZxyKUOMJ3PXORERy7BLEoLdtbn7VvX/ +Pm4zuL6kkiTs9OXO7UInJZerFeX6aJkZtu1rU5JV4mlOCPRUIu5qDgRAAEUWPBMAgAA X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFlrDLMWRmVeSWpSXmKPExsUiOPVZge426/wwg2/XJCyedD9kt3j5dROL A5PHow1VHjM+zWcJYIrisklJzcksSy3St0vgyrhyeilbwVKuiqv377E3MDZxdDFycEgImEj8 2ejRxcgJZIpJXLi3nq2LkYtDSGA6k0T3671sIAlhATmJQ6sWs4PYvAJ6EidW7WYFsZkFtCRu /HvJBDKHTUBNYsJEHpg5E9b9YgaxOQVMJV4uncoIYrMIqErcm3iTGaJVV6LpxltGCFteYvvb OcwQ460kru/bDBYXAjrtTMNZMFtEQFti7owDjBDzZSX2bVjANoFRYBaSi2YhuWgWkrELGJlX MQoUpeYkVprqJRYU5KTqJefnbmIEhWFDYcQOxv/LrA4xCnAwKvHw/mDNDxNiTSwrrsw9xCjB wawkwltsARTiTUmsrEotyo8vKs1JLT7EKM3BoiTOq2IElBJITyxJzU5NLUgtgskycXBKNTC6 Ldqtdlw5oktN3nvjvHizct7drDwzwqVOdvb28Lq4atUsldyb/T8648S9ROPL8t3NO9lXclvN /LGPzXu1jp/3WrEWFa7AjfysDzT7s79ufvt9s/iswL8P4lnPJaXeNmwX1HqdOufCPEONl8YJ XvVpvBtWRe9tfxbg6H7oW/26YpGnSXZ/hZRYijMSDbWYi4oTAQXpx84/AgAA X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2015 22:14:25 -0000 On Dec 14, 2015, at 12:49 PM, Bryan Albright wrote: > Hi folks! > > When upgrading from 8.4 to 9.3,in preparation to go from 9.3 to 10.2, > does it make sense to do a full port upgrade, after checking > /usr/ports/UPDATING (of course?) > > Something like a > % portupgrade -a > > Between the update to 9.3 and the update to 10.2? Or can I "get away > with" a update from 8.4 to 9.3, then update 9.3 to 10.2, then doa > portupgrade -a? Are you stopping at 9.3 for a while, or are you moving to 10.2 immediately? If you're going to run 9.3 for a while, it's reasonable to recompile the list of ports for that version. Otherwise, leave it be until after you've updated to 10.2. > (and I'm open to a "better" method of upgrading ports - I've just been > using a script to do the portupgrade since 2.2) You might find it cleaner to keep a list of ports you had installed, (ie, a backup), do a clean install of 10.2, and then reinstall only the ports which you know you want. Restore the ports config and anything else under /usr/local/etc which you want to keep around. Some of the older ports you had might not be needed anymore-- ie, build time deps, stuff which has been integrated or modernized from the base FreeBSD, etc. Regards, -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Dec 14 22:34:46 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6311A444CC for ; Mon, 14 Dec 2015 22:34:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bryana@darth-vader.org) Received: from jedi.darth-vader.org (jedi.darth-vader.org [63.228.3.105]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "darth-vader.org", Issuer "CA Cert Signing Authority" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A874A1F3E for ; Mon, 14 Dec 2015 22:34:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bryana@darth-vader.org) Received: by jedi.darth-vader.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 169118A5C28; Mon, 14 Dec 2015 16:34:42 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2015 16:34:42 -0600 From: Bryan Albright To: Charles Swiger Cc: FreeBSD - Subject: Re: Upgrade question? Message-ID: <20151214223442.GA62362@darth-vader.org> Mail-Followup-To: Charles Swiger , FreeBSD - References: <20151214204949.GA27984@darth-vader.org> <64EF16E4-3992-40A1-B9E9-1238DEE0F6F3@mac.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <64EF16E4-3992-40A1-B9E9-1238DEE0F6F3@mac.com> X-Priority: 3 (Normal) User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.24 (2015-08-30) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2015 22:34:46 -0000 Thanks Charles! I am planning on staying at 9.3 for as short of a possible time as I can. Doing a buildworld/buildkernel/mergemaster ... but wasn't sure if I should do/have to do a port update between 8.4 to 10.2 -- I've gone from single major releasesfor years now... this is the first time I've done 2 major releases in a single "session" and was looking for advice it it would be better to upgrade ports at the 9.x step before I did the OS updgrade to 10.2 I'm honestly okay with either... Thanks! Bryan On 12/14/15 at 01:59PM, Charles Swiger wrote: > On Dec 14, 2015, at 12:49 PM, Bryan Albright wrote: > > Hi folks! > > > > When upgrading from 8.4 to 9.3,in preparation to go from 9.3 to 10.2, > > does it make sense to do a full port upgrade, after checking > > /usr/ports/UPDATING (of course?) > > > > Something like a > > % portupgrade -a > > > > Between the update to 9.3 and the update to 10.2? Or can I "get away > > with" a update from 8.4 to 9.3, then update 9.3 to 10.2, then doa > > portupgrade -a? > > Are you stopping at 9.3 for a while, or are you moving to 10.2 immediately? > > If you're going to run 9.3 for a while, it's reasonable to recompile the > list of ports for that version. Otherwise, jave it be until after > you've updated to 10.2. > > > (and I'm open to a "better" method of upgrading ports - I've just been > > using a script to do the portupgrade since 2.2) > > You might find it cleaner to keep a list of ports you had installed, > (ie, a backup), do a clean install of 10.2, and then reinstall only > the ports which you know you want. Restore the ports config and > anything else under /usr/local/etc which you want to keep around. > > Some of the older ports you had might not be needed anymore-- ie, > build time deps, stuff which has been integrated or modernized from > the base FreeBSD, etc. > > Regards, > -- > -Chuck -- Bryan Albright The difference between the impossible and the possible lies in a person's determination... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Dec 14 22:38:38 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7101A44741 for ; Mon, 14 Dec 2015 22:38:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vsasjason@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wm0-x236.google.com (mail-wm0-x236.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::236]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8F7E6109A for ; Mon, 14 Dec 2015 22:38:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vsasjason@gmail.com) Received: by mail-wm0-x236.google.com with SMTP id n186so140127205wmn.1 for ; Mon, 14 Dec 2015 14:38:38 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=wPFNIcBDrqJ3jFH5VY7Rh0onYFwyXY9rnd1M9SYFPmY=; b=ZaC2HPZT2XkrQ7HUtKRrhj6iFi/IBYfBfLESefV0pfrsqqVvPbWFq9Wotol63fid5P 1paFj8EWLgWeFnbG9CXsNXalEO549b5/UKamxJaxda721LUlxJ0GGAgZYRDTx7nHgvbA J1BozMnggAI8LkJMSpEnzrVE+2qVz+mJ6advNEP3/adx1SDPMmG1uQDIvAzQAOoJbmFN H4Hc8mkPhHnVvpEJQKtSg4U8CLvHI6WeyBwSYzsUzErWl8xHDJhcL/AoTZwSSBgoGAsj z6XApPFtYU2RICP/C+Zk70a+3vcYVBRs7S6a8UPtp1F/wje/MW4Tb1Rp2t3EhjBeZWxg qx7w== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.28.226.86 with SMTP id z83mr657168wmg.77.1450132716930; Mon, 14 Dec 2015 14:38:36 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.194.101.97 with HTTP; Mon, 14 Dec 2015 14:38:36 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.194.101.97 with HTTP; Mon, 14 Dec 2015 14:38:36 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20151214223442.GA62362@darth-vader.org> References: <20151214204949.GA27984@darth-vader.org> <64EF16E4-3992-40A1-B9E9-1238DEE0F6F3@mac.com> <20151214223442.GA62362@darth-vader.org> Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2015 00:38:36 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Upgrade question? From: Anton Sayetsky To: FreeBSD Questions , Charles Swiger Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2015 22:38:39 -0000 15 =D0=B4=D0=B5=D0=BA. 2015 =D0=B3. 0:34 =D0=BF=D0=BE=D0=BB=D1=8C=D0=B7=D0= =BE=D0=B2=D0=B0=D1=82=D0=B5=D0=BB=D1=8C "Bryan Albright" =D0=BD=D0=B0=D0=BF=D0=B8=D1=81=D0=B0=D0=BB: > > Thanks Charles! > > I am planning on staying at 9.3 for as short of a possible time as I > can. > > Doing a buildworld/buildkernel/mergemaster ... but wasn't sure if > I should do/have to do a port update between 8.4 to 10.2 -- I've gone > from single major releasesfor years now... this is the first time I've > done 2 major releases in a single "session" and was looking for > advice it it would be better to upgrade ports at the 9.x step before I > did the OS updgrade to 10.2 > > I'm honestly okay with either... The choice is quite simple - rebuild ports on 9.3 if you need them working, or don't rebuild until fully upgraded otherwise. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Dec 15 03:43:00 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 200ECA435D8 for ; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 03:43:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Received: from feeder.usenet4all.se (1-1-1-38a.far.sth.bostream.se [82.182.32.53]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 86B381978 for ; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 03:42:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Received: from testbox.news4all.se (testbox.usenet4all.se [10.0.0.3]) by feeder.usenet4all.se (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id tBF3gl3d004685 for ; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 04:42:47 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" From: Bernt Hansson Subject: problen with pw useradd? Message-ID: <566F8C37.4080800@bananmonarki.se> Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2015 04:42:47 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2015 03:43:00 -0000 Hello list! I have a strange problem when trying to install dns/rbldnsd. Problem is that there is no user rbldns trying to pw useradd there is a user called rbldns. Well here it is; ===> Creating users and/or groups. Using existing group 'rbldns'. Creating user 'rbldns' with uid '153' pw: user 'rbldns' already exists. pkg-static: PRE-INSTALL script failed pkg-static: unknown user 'rbldns' .... pw useradd rbldns pw: user'rbldns' already exists. 9.3-RELEASE #0 r278921 amd64 From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Dec 15 08:04:37 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 603ABA47EF4 for ; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 08:04:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kraduk@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wm0-x234.google.com (mail-wm0-x234.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::234]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 003AF1E98 for ; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 08:04:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kraduk@gmail.com) Received: by mail-wm0-x234.google.com with SMTP id p66so97357980wmp.1 for ; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 00:04:36 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=rwlsOGKkhOf0Fpn87UjuEBf8oLqit9/tV8tMQgI06io=; b=zhl1eE/pCfxSdM+uTe1byesaq3pxtFaa1hYKgwbeGEziiJGm2Lrtsqh4ZBug7UO7gH mJTY7jgSAyyDKwjr/wEp/PlMrMaC5o0ac0/gOP8k5Q4WLkOE3SDK8swu4+X1kv0ejMHk 3o2d70ohc+qbstF9cho11v7LdsU76ssNFNWw3q8l3BIA8KAq7Idb82WNFzvC/mAA/8Wr AyTCPRT3NKnNyCoGIYNvqmTOHc3eAqLPbhRo77uNtzmSh9U3cjobMQO7oQNIE8NmpP1m cqVOjHovXfEcnTmdhFsIbSTzXatef0MkSfiV3ityGPewdndcFpCzRm4JmcSKZvCwJCtP 5nkQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.194.236.228 with SMTP id ux4mr43144885wjc.56.1450166675053; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 00:04:35 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.28.181.213 with HTTP; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 00:04:34 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <566F8C37.4080800@bananmonarki.se> References: <566F8C37.4080800@bananmonarki.se> Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2015 08:04:34 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: problen with pw useradd? From: krad To: Bernt Hansson Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2015 08:04:37 -0000 check for a user with the uid 153, rather then username rbldns. If you can change the uid of the existing user. On 15 December 2015 at 03:42, Bernt Hansson wrote: > Hello list! > > I have a strange problem when trying to install dns/rbldnsd. > > Problem is that there is no user rbldns trying to pw useradd there is a > user called rbldns. > > Well here it is; > > ===> Creating users and/or groups. > Using existing group 'rbldns'. > Creating user 'rbldns' with uid '153' > pw: user 'rbldns' already exists. > pkg-static: PRE-INSTALL script failed > pkg-static: unknown user 'rbldns' > .... > > pw useradd rbldns > pw: user'rbldns' already exists. > > 9.3-RELEASE #0 r278921 amd64 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Dec 15 08:10:19 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81FB2A43332 for ; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 08:10:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sergeig.public@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vk0-x22f.google.com (mail-vk0-x22f.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400c:c05::22f]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 42E63109D for ; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 08:10:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sergeig.public@gmail.com) Received: by mail-vk0-x22f.google.com with SMTP id j66so698231vkg.1 for ; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 00:10:19 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=Bi34ZI0o7L3jEAsMSEghArVxWErUSM/LfUZcKrAqVms=; b=f7+baiHKrohf/gR3RvKE3eWSBf58vQG/lGaSAmzafzCDo4E4PJf7J4GjEy/KbmZyrh 0L5tYcMzFcoorB5tZwFYLOjVpQUEf8fC0A97fEVlzhVxbfEPSolWn2DS25AyiH0PqbzW /KC16Q9hq0LFphcEFVwDWezv/hXo3rop7NjcACkF35cbnRQ/AKlwz70ZFfLKQti7NSk9 lQYJ648YJSSL5l/LYg2mekZ6FJH4B+tPV1XeDX0PL7RbJsX/NdB0U37qv81tpjSXtPAa H38SgTaAt0tlksyP63tSMJ5gETIW+3yz2J/GDdCU0y+Hom0Uv4sNFZ/HJcCXf9UKo6u7 k3Ng== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.31.47.88 with SMTP id v85mr28363261vkv.118.1450167018055; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 00:10:18 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.31.174.213 with HTTP; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 00:10:18 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <566EBCE3.4090501@incomproekt.ru> References: <566EBCE3.4090501@incomproekt.ru> Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2015 00:10:18 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: pkg search -x stopped working From: Sergei G To: denis@incomproekt.ru Cc: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2015 08:10:19 -0000 I have run command pkg update -f and observed a lot of messages: pkg: Skipping unknown key 'messages' The good news is that pkg search works again. What does the error message mean? Thanks On Mon, Dec 14, 2015 at 4:58 AM, Makovkin Denis wrote: > 14.12.2015 15:45, Sergei G =D0=BF=D0=B8=D1=88=D0=B5=D1=82: > >> One of my jails stopped returning any search results for command: >> >> pkg search -x any_name_like_vim_emacs >> >> I then run the same command from other jail and it lists available >> options. >> >> Is there a way to reset pkg repository of remotely available packages, >> without affecting actually installed packages? >> > try pkg update -f > >> >> >> Thanks >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to " >> freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> >> > -- > > =D0=A1 =D1=83=D0=B2=D0=B0=D0=B6=D0=B5=D0=BD=D0=B8=D0=B5=D0=BC, > =D0=9C=D0=B0=D0=BA=D0=BE=D0=B2=D0=BA=D0=B8=D0=BD =D0=94=D0=B5=D0=BD=D0=B8= =D1=81 > =D1=84=D0=B8=D1=80=D0=BC=D0=B0 "=D0=98=D0=BD=D0=BA=D0=BE=D0=BC=D0=BF=D1= =80=D0=BE=D0=B5=D0=BA=D1=82" > (4852) 32-90-94, 30-36-47(=D1=84=D0=B0=D0=BA=D1=81) > ----------------------------------------------------- > Desine fata deum flecti sperare precando... > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Dec 15 08:10:43 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36EC9A434B3 for ; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 08:10:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kraduk@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wm0-x231.google.com (mail-wm0-x231.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::231]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CAF04116E for ; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 08:10:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kraduk@gmail.com) Received: by mail-wm0-x231.google.com with SMTP id n186so13349359wmn.0 for ; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 00:10:42 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=6zWSrgHfGFk1t7qauuaj0NbShXqnV7EXR9YFm5Ewx3c=; b=swUSez8BruOQ/1a1kkNVFIOMLeoYXMG23yq8W9C0ATzi2leNL8i+Oq5aM41TUNIpN/ 5Np3ob3yyrIMkvloFuTeDUTUNg/aCBHwXpD/3NNaHDhW89Vo5xZzYsOTnx1FollY1RP6 kxMpH0v23k4uu3C1/8rK/+MToUKlsAZYfANPg4ONMoE7Hv8hK27KUL6k6ANy8cxWbyQL sBpxJ00rQaDJinejn7+puXtKPQpSVevxKkGpdmb+feOtMV6OoK91znINgoRMqJ7hO78f ShUCdyK2pYT6fBFdcrxSTS9v6D8mWrSOra8xnqdJFz8xc4B+A/X+Yypv1b1uQ/pj/9oH U4Pg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.194.236.228 with SMTP id ux4mr43182940wjc.56.1450167041012; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 00:10:41 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.28.181.213 with HTTP; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 00:10:40 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20151214194012.M53329@brightstar.bomgardner.net> References: <20151214194012.M53329@brightstar.bomgardner.net> Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2015 08:10:40 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: freebsd-update, ZFS, and ver 8.2 From: krad To: Gene Cc: Freebsd Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2015 08:10:43 -0000 I would use boot environments if you are zfs root so you can fail back easily. I would also use a src build as that will definitely work. eg beadmn create -e old_root new_root beadmn mount new_root /mnt export DESTDIR=/mnt cd /usr/src make -j 12 buildworld && make -j 12 buildkernel && make installworld && make installkernel && mergemaster && beadmn umount new_root && beadmn activate new_root later on init 6 On 14 December 2015 at 19:47, Gene wrote: > > Hi - > I'm going to update my AMD64 system: 8.2 -> 9.0 -> 10.2 > > My concern is that the boot resides on a zfs volume. Thus my question: > > Will freebsd-update correctly handle the ZFS boot volume? If not, is there > any > info around on handling this situation? > > Thanks for all your help, > Gene > > -- > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Dec 15 08:34:42 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6927BA44480 for ; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 08:34:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3cd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk", Issuer "infracaninophile.co.uk" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 005061FE6 for ; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 08:34:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from liminal.local (liminal.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3636:3bff:fed4:b0d6]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id tBF8YbYj092124 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 08:34:38 GMT (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk; dmarc=none header.from=FreeBSD.org DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.10.3 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk tBF8YbYj092124 Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk/tBF8YbYj092124; dkim=none; dkim-atps=neutral X-Authentication-Warning: lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk: Host liminal.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3636:3bff:fed4:b0d6] claimed to be liminal.local Subject: Re: Upgrade question? To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20151214204949.GA27984@darth-vader.org> <64EF16E4-3992-40A1-B9E9-1238DEE0F6F3@mac.com> <20151214223442.GA62362@darth-vader.org> From: Matthew Seaman Message-ID: <566FD09D.9010506@FreeBSD.org> Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2015 08:34:37 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.11; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20151214223442.GA62362@darth-vader.org> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="j3FUCVGD4Xos9O7pI4MuToPDCT9vSK4jd" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.98.7 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.7 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2015 08:34:42 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --j3FUCVGD4Xos9O7pI4MuToPDCT9vSK4jd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 14/12/2015 22:34, Bryan Albright wrote: > Doing a buildworld/buildkernel/mergemaster ... but wasn't sure if > I should do/have to do a port update between 8.4 to 10.2 -- I've gone > from single major releasesfor years now... this is the first time I've > done 2 major releases in a single "session" and was looking for > advice it it would be better to upgrade ports at the 9.x step before I > did the OS updgrade to 10.2 =20 >=20 > I'm honestly okay with either... You don't need to update your ports until you've upgraded all the way to 10.2. However, be careful about removing old shared libraries or most of your ports will stop working. You will have enough to be able to upgrade your system with just what is in the base system, but it can be a drag if your favourite editor stops working. Installing the compat8x and compat9x ports before you begin will help things keep running smoothly. Cheers, Matthew --j3FUCVGD4Xos9O7pI4MuToPDCT9vSK4jd Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2 iQJ8BAEBCgBmBQJWb9CdXxSAAAAAAC4AKGlzc3Vlci1mcHJAbm90YXRpb25zLm9w ZW5wZ3AuZmlmdGhob3JzZW1hbi5uZXQ2NTNBNjhCOTEzQTRFNkNGM0UxRTEzMjZC QjIzQUY1MThFMUE0MDEzAAoJELsjr1GOGkATRdIQAKrO39vnKa+qTi7NJ9RYAk+p /p+4KG4zrxrAPqU+KDP3RHlvWI9ToTLTuQTSfNIJ82KpFJn/7GqACy4BsuJKepTt 3mjI15wAuj/M2jRGDjdkDGVinCeIZcVbjSHYQQnnfGUpv0MUNQMlYw7V3CWc3BJL 5FXCwylDjhHhfsfrzl7sKsAxQWngZDDLmo4mt5MpxZiXxuMkSrm4dsrLQ0+lcNFD mnqapho1ZeyfWAff3IVv8+4O7fR3qO5YSHVJZCHQhM5JRBbEIUKo0umYdF3l8VI5 uvrxwJuuUMmnzorq4LFTDWjwrx5z6/dUVbfIdjCPUZJBE2BfwLS6JzIu+y363idA WJuiprGaGFFL2qftEPdm9gQ2m/q/aitkvnh+nQFsLj37QTiKIU0T9240QMUysRQn IJdbQeHMIOgRAmZL17YbeQCVt9oTULCEQGC3sg3KXx9lNP9x2U3HATjyogIbInCV YmT04zKQj5mMHoAfhbRUS3G/6mu2VkI09u9xCOq5eVBQxVNaWXqbFEqgaKzTIMtR gFNd8lW/DR9YJQTEJCodVuryJx+fIeYmx2E0ZwdQRWr+0M+lV4dc6OHtWP67flod c4MVWHC2Z6JwgY3Npa0U0ThYUMGZOCb0PBDcmI1nbKAE6SgI1iZa8KmlsZTurnso 8G2dky2h6DTftIBnWWAd =cR4G -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --j3FUCVGD4Xos9O7pI4MuToPDCT9vSK4jd-- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Dec 15 08:37:44 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB6F1A446AC for ; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 08:37:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3cd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk", Issuer "infracaninophile.co.uk" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4BE7B115D for ; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 08:37:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from liminal.local (liminal.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3636:3bff:fed4:b0d6]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id tBF8bej8092188 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 08:37:40 GMT (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk; dmarc=none header.from=FreeBSD.org DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.10.3 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk tBF8bej8092188 Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk/tBF8bej8092188; dkim=none; dkim-atps=neutral X-Authentication-Warning: lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk: Host liminal.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3636:3bff:fed4:b0d6] claimed to be liminal.local Subject: Re: pkg search -x stopped working To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <566EBCE3.4090501@incomproekt.ru> From: Matthew Seaman Message-ID: <566FD153.1070709@FreeBSD.org> Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2015 08:37:39 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.11; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="otFxVr0fhTxCSCT8rBT3hG44A9Bj5urbv" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.98.7 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.7 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2015 08:37:44 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --otFxVr0fhTxCSCT8rBT3hG44A9Bj5urbv Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 15/12/2015 08:10, Sergei G wrote: > I have run command pkg update -f and observed a lot of messages: >=20 > pkg: Skipping unknown key 'messages' >=20 > The good news is that pkg search works again. >=20 > What does the error message mean? That's entirely harmless and expected. There was a change in the package meta-data between pkg-1.5.x and pkg-1.6.x which results in all the warning messages you saw but only when installing pkg-1.6.x. As soon as pkg-1.6 is installed, it understands the new bits in the package metadata and stops complaining quite so much. Cheers, Matthew --otFxVr0fhTxCSCT8rBT3hG44A9Bj5urbv Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2 iQJ8BAEBCgBmBQJWb9FUXxSAAAAAAC4AKGlzc3Vlci1mcHJAbm90YXRpb25zLm9w ZW5wZ3AuZmlmdGhob3JzZW1hbi5uZXQ2NTNBNjhCOTEzQTRFNkNGM0UxRTEzMjZC QjIzQUY1MThFMUE0MDEzAAoJELsjr1GOGkATkc4P/j+a7OQP0YfxxkbrjzPEk/Py JSH/Z0BprHk1kWrSbbkl38qdkkwk/QmEokDMIUNZS4p6M2xwj7rJGmPYXsFKoAyq sP2MehfHbH99mgcFMV5Kh607Bdx8z0JvZf1N+slGLUMTqfEcZL70kTrF/U9jI+hy 8X3hq5JqY5LqqdpWK92WTxvTfcMmfqUJHvyDO9yoo3zhr/8tJ0aMabq4+WXA1Cm9 DQLb9UD6ZxR7CQQaUseKIOTr02ckAYIhJ+FPXJ1qKiLeScs4sJSJIQNIXLNn4TMZ w1wj+cgw86ZYzbU3l9w6mAQALCYvCrVlzhmsxkEAP3ctpmKHJ3qzXkybm/ohxEoA bomPNEzcyFvEVVX6w8eeQcCZEVnicMHltaQq4BXnMdBcRewfhXdDUunpYaLZf9EX 2Q/GdSObC3cbh6ldHhFiE/0i1TMhm86mEPRPBDCm7R0mRFmvYg+EhB1kChrR1zB6 DbdYwwFuz/wZQnk0h5LSAAB02HOIAyHkow4tZHoY2/JNak81xKy4rGybSqw5By1G Pbou4KwDOzCei+tn6UgXbFIJOGyUyRwm7TtklbPab0fnoCj+cQ3R+1Kyop4/hQgc KqTiA2OGECrQDJVOqsVjSYpEAjMQ6Mw5dNW2zxJG8Yt7tieUnUYIfZ7iW9w7/DTr VZEkkY9MI7bS30MTIPzZ =BwHD -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --otFxVr0fhTxCSCT8rBT3hG44A9Bj5urbv-- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Dec 15 08:42:05 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BC61A44964 for ; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 08:42:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3cd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk", Issuer "infracaninophile.co.uk" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0EDE51509 for ; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 08:42:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from liminal.local (liminal.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3636:3bff:fed4:b0d6]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id tBF8fuK4092270 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 08:41:56 GMT (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk; dmarc=none header.from=FreeBSD.org DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.10.3 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk tBF8fuK4092270 Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk/tBF8fuK4092270; dkim=none; dkim-atps=neutral X-Authentication-Warning: lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk: Host liminal.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3636:3bff:fed4:b0d6] claimed to be liminal.local Subject: Re: freebsd-update, ZFS, and ver 8.2 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20151214194012.M53329@brightstar.bomgardner.net> From: Matthew Seaman Message-ID: <566FD253.5090906@FreeBSD.org> Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2015 08:41:55 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.11; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="E7L1AO9BraasWB5T9fINuh5npXEeh06VH" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.98.7 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.7 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2015 08:42:05 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --E7L1AO9BraasWB5T9fINuh5npXEeh06VH Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 15/12/2015 08:10, krad wrote: > I would use boot environments if you are zfs root so you can fail back > easily. I would also use a src build as that will definitely work. >=20 > eg >=20 > beadmn create -e old_root new_root > beadmn mount new_root /mnt > export DESTDIR=3D/mnt > cd /usr/src > make -j 12 buildworld && > make -j 12 buildkernel && > make installworld && > make installkernel && > mergemaster && > beadmn umount new_root && > beadmn activate new_root >=20 > later on init 6 There's more to do to fully update ZFS after this. ZFS has a number of new features that are available in 10.x which you can use 'zpool upgrade' to enable. When you do that, it will tell you to update the boot blocks using 'gpart bootcode ....' It is vitally important you do that, or you can render your system unbootable. Cheers, Matthew --E7L1AO9BraasWB5T9fINuh5npXEeh06VH Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2 iQJ8BAEBCgBmBQJWb9JTXxSAAAAAAC4AKGlzc3Vlci1mcHJAbm90YXRpb25zLm9w ZW5wZ3AuZmlmdGhob3JzZW1hbi5uZXQ2NTNBNjhCOTEzQTRFNkNGM0UxRTEzMjZC QjIzQUY1MThFMUE0MDEzAAoJELsjr1GOGkATynMP/0jecHxT/7qek3KsCd22JJfO qhyBizQSTxWeS6xhoN4BdNUo+aWLjxCKZHoWnuQDJlTIscAMWu97Vg+GDw3Kb8D/ zC4U1uUaRQZ26qxthn0ERQu4WNzdQY6D1qSW6jr8pTznz6qZLJ4bKrH6wgRE88ld MEu8sP5KNFhQM4yBm1jJ6Dh9SwXxthwuLvvNcuWZKldutQ0QzPg6duSAtVIR/B8r 4bZaCkCaPgf3jgD4+EhE8kHLs6yswZL5q81qWzQlKsswAi9Y4prqwjkXBiH17RL3 fgWfB5AjhEkMFnKK7TEC/jVyIP6J0/EbCufcBX3NGgf5KIYLeGxGYuoUOinAGA9b jl2InizVQd0XrtA/8ZQeZhovxCf4as7x2Z4rETfOhgj/oZYV3aRQ0qUYn+fRevbX QX1LCy9uuau/Hv6VAZuuh3yn+POtYwLJeKQxMayn0ZPatbXnqLvC5eLdv0P7Nno2 /Dp2TylSQ4IrEpNTyCtujC8UnyqXmKbNBRp5zYjFnpG67pVCOfiDSTVm98hmLqmS O+KMdUXoLutfOZBNXEeDqgdrFYKOxQm+B5KgF1J5pVixlejcytwYFaaZAtFC3F1i FbxSIiRgrWr7PIa1OMJoDILJsRsDkIlyc6BLH5O0Yda69RDRWqvE28E3vTo5O9LR inc3+QlHkCPwWuA9fAHE =20hD -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --E7L1AO9BraasWB5T9fINuh5npXEeh06VH-- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Dec 15 09:51:55 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FACCA4348F for ; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 09:51:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EDEB418FC for ; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 09:51:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-31-25.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.31.25]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E6E462BA88; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 10:51:45 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id tBF9pj9S011998; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 10:51:46 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2015 10:51:45 +0100 From: Polytropon To: "Gene" Cc: "Freebsd Questions" Subject: Re: freebsd-update editor choice Message-Id: <20151215105145.75e5d9ec.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20151213182848.M69104@brightstar.bomgardner.net> References: <20151213182848.M69104@brightstar.bomgardner.net> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2015 09:51:55 -0000 On Sun, 13 Dec 2015 12:31:22 -0600, Gene wrote: > I'm using freebsd-update to update my 10.1 system to 10.2. When merging files, > it insists on using the 'vi' editor. I really, really, REALLY, despise vi. Is > there a way to get it to use another editor? The OS supplies two main screen editors: vi and ee. Why vi has been the choice here (while ee would probably have been better, especially for new users) - no idea. However, you can set $EDITOR like this: # setenv EDITOR /usr/local/bin/mcedit or which editor you prefer (emacs, the, ...). To make this setting permanent, add the line to the C shell's /etc/csh.cshrc global configuration file, or ~/.cshrc for the root user. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Dec 15 09:57:12 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF806A43957 for ; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 09:57:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A752B1BEC for ; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 09:57:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-31-25.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.31.25]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DBA6C279E6; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 10:57:10 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id tBF9vBTK012032; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 10:57:11 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2015 10:57:11 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Matthias Apitz Cc: Freebsd Questions Subject: Re: freebsd-update editor choice Message-Id: <20151215105711.1179df31.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20151213191633.GB1588@c720-r285885-amd64> References: <20151213182848.M69104@brightstar.bomgardner.net> <20151213191633.GB1588@c720-r285885-amd64> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2015 09:57:13 -0000 On Sun, 13 Dec 2015 20:16:33 +0100, Matthias Apitz wrote: > El día Sunday, December 13, 2015 a las 08:42:30PM +0200, Anton Sayetsky escribió: > > > 13 дек. 2015 г. 20:39 пользователь "Gene" > > написал: > > > > > > > > > Hi - > > > > > > I'm using freebsd-update to update my 10.1 system to 10.2. When merging > > files, > > > it insists on using the 'vi' editor. I really, really, REALLY, despise > > vi. Is > > > there a way to get it to use another editor? > > I hope that you don't want to use some editor for noobs, like ee. Solution > > to your problem is setting EDITOR environment variable. > > What about 'ed'? Keep in mind: "'ed' is the standard text editor", so standards must be good for something. :-) http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?EdIsTheStandardTextEditor > Or even better: > > //IEBUPDTE EXEC PGM=IEBUPDTE,PARM=NEW > //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=A > //SYSUT2 DD DISP=(NEW,CATLG),DSN=KC03H11.NEW22.PDS, > // SPACE=(CYL,(5,5,5),RLSE), > // RECFM=FB,LRECL=80,BLKSIZE=0 > //SYSIN DD * > Hello World > /* > // > > (I was used to it in the 80' of the last century) What, no JOB card? Is this a system for umemployed operators? Switch on your EC7920 terminal, log on (!) to your TSO account, and then start ISPD/PDS. Expect SYSABEND or FEIERABEND soon. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Dec 15 09:58:39 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA247A43B68 for ; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 09:58:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 93DD01E31 for ; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 09:58:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-31-25.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.31.25]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A2387279E6; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 10:58:37 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id tBF9wbeH012036; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 10:58:38 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2015 10:58:37 +0100 From: Polytropon To: "Gene" Cc: Freebsd Questions Subject: Re: freebsd-update editor choice Message-Id: <20151215105837.8ad4fb46.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20151214001912.M44704@brightstar.bomgardner.net> References: <20151213182848.M69104@brightstar.bomgardner.net> <20151214001912.M44704@brightstar.bomgardner.net> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2015 09:58:39 -0000 On Sun, 13 Dec 2015 18:19:44 -0600, Gene wrote: > Thanks By the way - back in the day (70's - 80's) I got really good > with Wordstar. So today I kind of like Joe. Not a bad choice - it's a powerful editor with a lot of features, and still easy to use for new users (cursor keys + ^HK). :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Dec 15 10:07:14 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE9EFA44242 for ; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 10:07:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Received: from feeder.usenet4all.se (1-1-1-38a.far.sth.bostream.se [82.182.32.53]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7747514EA for ; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 10:07:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Received: from testbox.news4all.se (testbox.usenet4all.se [10.0.0.3]) by feeder.usenet4all.se (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id tBFA78hd013553; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 11:07:08 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Subject: Re: problen with pw useradd? To: krad References: <566F8C37.4080800@bananmonarki.se> Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" From: Bernt Hansson Message-ID: <566FE64C.8080805@bananmonarki.se> Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2015 11:07:08 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2015 10:07:15 -0000 On 2015-12-15 09:04, krad wrote: > check for a user with the uid 153, rather then username rbldns. If you can > change the uid of the existing user. There is no other user with uid 153. /etc/master.passwd and /etc/passwd have the same line rbldns:*:153:153::0:0:rbldns pseudo user:/home/rbldns:/usr/sbin/nologin > On 15 December 2015 at 03:42, Bernt Hansson wrote: > >> Hello list! >> >> I have a strange problem when trying to install dns/rbldnsd. >> >> Problem is that there is no user rbldns trying to pw useradd there is a >> user called rbldns. >> >> Well here it is; >> >> ===> Creating users and/or groups. >> Using existing group 'rbldns'. >> Creating user 'rbldns' with uid '153' >> pw: user 'rbldns' already exists. >> pkg-static: PRE-INSTALL script failed >> pkg-static: unknown user 'rbldns' >> .... >> >> pw useradd rbldns >> pw: user'rbldns' already exists. >> >> 9.3-RELEASE #0 r278921 amd64 >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to " >> freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Dec 15 10:07:17 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD27DA4424B for ; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 10:07:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from mail-wm0-x236.google.com (mail-wm0-x236.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::236]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7D0BD1510 for ; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 10:07:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: by mail-wm0-x236.google.com with SMTP id n186so17721076wmn.0 for ; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 02:07:17 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=bris-ac-uk.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=date:from:message-id:to:subject:reply-to:in-reply-to; bh=HIG/493cEhjzZcoPsk32YalKC4KNW6eQnfGmOr5NSAE=; b=osrHHhfX9rLredhbBgtv5VfDPBXLPbLZJ0gpObJ/2zDMPQsdPbKQBmZV6kqEbgG2HP uBGP9ZdsXt4vI3pmwqHgLctvZ3NXa1hWiCMW0theyESkHWosS/OkmW26Kz7NtM1GxHbJ KIZ9AFhuR9o2Yq06JXa1GQEwGyyVTApl+riDfmJy4p+p+hoWshKFjsyxmaUZkLY41qWI LmdQgYIwRKA2qKt2/w1kFYsvp9hX4H1SzS68ahaGVP3ImPjjN4f/JClDt7VATGe9hhkx fRY6llZp8Mhq1gVkVZ9jZcb4PwP0VdqRgBDIpse6r8YuPbj5eOXsb6nyQpbwN+z4gltV Co7w== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:date:from:message-id:to:subject:reply-to :in-reply-to; bh=HIG/493cEhjzZcoPsk32YalKC4KNW6eQnfGmOr5NSAE=; b=DH2wPEwYbX9p0GJwXZhR6XyKt05wFJQoxrtkSVh9rJHAMcE4MQerJabhdGZXs0Ab/h aZ46US6a4ScuxZwOE9FIMf04wl0PJYFRvN/1/pP2VTQjfXM0vhapc35VQQP8a4KTCtPl ZqMON1Dq2WxIVPT+7Im4QPdueW1ncAhReCBcOVbEY7+V11zgLgHmDk9LzWYJmju5Y11f YY1i5/eGxUABR1PLM62EOw/g7Q17v+YMiqLw+hEkz22tn/fns11yeX3vHWwVgEjRKVF6 CsL/IQ7IiOZgMgMgIBOcsHKJXyEkUssfWWLuB85A80cVynAUL7ZLydTRgeOW92S8xkGh aFqg== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQnCOEO/6USRm3CJS+TeTdG58Bp3tK8NhKi6kHmrPTzppG2NAeYeS2/hO6IL8T6u369AJn/IbGEci8cliA/D88bK6Y0XuA== X-Received: by 10.194.23.33 with SMTP id j1mr42743633wjf.4.1450174035629; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 02:07:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from mech-as222.men.bris.ac.uk (mech-as222.men.bris.ac.uk. [137.222.170.4]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id k7sm2106606wmf.2.2015.12.15.02.07.14 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 15 Dec 2015 02:07:15 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2015 02:07:15 -0800 (PST) X-Google-Original-Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2015 10:07:14 GMT Received: from mech-as222.men.bris.ac.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mech-as222.men.bris.ac.uk (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id tBFA7Ef1011476; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 10:07:14 GMT (envelope-from mexas@mech-as222.men.bris.ac.uk) Received: (from mexas@localhost) by mech-as222.men.bris.ac.uk (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id tBFA7EPU011475; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 10:07:14 GMT (envelope-from mexas) From: Anton Shterenlikht Message-Id: <201512151007.tBFA7EPU011475@mech-as222.men.bris.ac.uk> To: bah@bananmonarki.se, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: problen with pw useradd? Reply-To: mexas@bris.ac.uk In-Reply-To: <566F8C37.4080800@bananmonarki.se> X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2015 10:07:18 -0000 >Hello list! > >I have a strange problem when trying to install dns/rbldnsd. > >Problem is that there is no user rbldns trying to pw useradd there is a >user called rbldns. > >Well here it is; > >===> Creating users and/or groups. >Using existing group 'rbldns'. >Creating user 'rbldns' with uid '153' >pw: user 'rbldns' already exists. >pkg-static: PRE-INSTALL script failed >pkg-static: unknown user 'rbldns' >.... > >pw useradd rbldns >pw: user'rbldns' already exists. > >9.3-RELEASE #0 r278921 amd64 Probably not related, but just in case: https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=205019 Anton From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Dec 15 10:13:43 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D3D5A448CC for ; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 10:13:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Received: from feeder.usenet4all.se (1-1-1-38a.far.sth.bostream.se [82.182.32.53]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A23841B73 for ; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 10:13:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Received: from testbox.news4all.se (testbox.usenet4all.se [10.0.0.3]) by feeder.usenet4all.se (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id tBFADdcU013725; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 11:13:39 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Subject: Re: problen with pw useradd? To: Vladimir Botka References: <566F8C37.4080800@bananmonarki.se> <20151215082721.2357ecdd@planb.netng.org> Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" From: Bernt Hansson Message-ID: <566FE7D3.2060203@bananmonarki.se> Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2015 11:13:39 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20151215082721.2357ecdd@planb.netng.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2015 10:13:43 -0000 On 2015-12-15 08:27, Vladimir Botka wrote: > On Tue, 15 Dec 2015 04:42:47 +0100 > Bernt Hansson wrote: >> Hello list! >> I have a strange problem when trying to install dns/rbldnsd. Problem >> is that there is no user rbldns ... > Hi Bernt, how does the passwd file look like? > grep rbldns /etc/passwd > There is no other user with uid 153. /etc/master.passwd and /etc/passwd have the same line rbldns:*:153:153::0:0:rbldns pseudo user:/home/rbldns:/usr/sbin/nologin From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Dec 15 10:17:55 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68520A44BAA for ; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 10:17:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 335EC1D66 for ; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 10:17:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-31-25.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.31.25]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 265B3276AF; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 11:17:53 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id tBFAHrHX012165; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 11:17:53 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2015 11:17:53 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Bryan Albright Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Upgrade question? Message-Id: <20151215111753.91d3c92f.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20151214204949.GA27984@darth-vader.org> References: <20151214204949.GA27984@darth-vader.org> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2015 10:17:55 -0000 On Mon, 14 Dec 2015 14:49:49 -0600, Bryan Albright wrote: > Hi folks! > > When upgrading from 8.4 to 9.3,in preparation to go from 9.3 to 10.2, > does it make sense to do a full port upgrade, after checking > /usr/ports/UPDATING (of course?) > > Something like a > % portupgrade -a > > Between the update to 9.3 and the update to 10.2? Or can I "get away > with" a update from 8.4 to 9.3, then update 9.3 to 10.2, then doa > portupgrade -a? It's recommended to upgrade installed ports, but not needed when you install the "compat" ports or packages, for example, compat9x-i386-9.3. on 10.2. But keep in mind that running software from a different major version often leads to problems, especially when you try to update them (and when conflicts with system-provided libraries arise). > (and I'm open to a "better" method of upgrading ports - I've just been > using a script to do the portupgrade since 2.2) See "man portmaster"'s EXAMPLES section. But it's also possible (and easy!) to make a list of your "top ports" (the things you intendedly want to use, with _not_ listing their dependencies), and feed that list to "pkg install". So your installed software will be up to date. Remember to make copies of your configuration files for later re-instantiation (/usr/local/etc and so on). -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Dec 15 12:28:41 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E9BAA44223 for ; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 12:28:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk) Received: from avasout08.plus.net (avasout08.plus.net [212.159.14.20]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "Bizanga Labs SMTP Client Certificate", Issuer "Bizanga Labs CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EF9101A19 for ; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 12:28:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk) Received: from curlew.milibyte.co.uk ([80.229.31.82]) by avasout08 with smtp id toQT1r0071mJoLY01oQUQB; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 12:24:29 +0000 X-CM-Score: 0.00 X-CNFS-Analysis: v=2.1 cv=LpJvsSpc c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=cd0K7rcWwnZFf6xQxRobyA==:117 a=cd0K7rcWwnZFf6xQxRobyA==:17 a=D7rCoLxHAAAA:8 a=0Bzu9jTXAAAA:8 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=wUQvQvOEmiQA:10 a=_F8EWh6XPZKH_YNXuvUA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 Received: from curlew.lan ([192.168.1.13] helo=milibyte.co.uk) by curlew.milibyte.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.86) (envelope-from ) id 1a8oeZ-0001CF-0G for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 12:24:27 +0000 From: Mike Clarke To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2015 12:24:24 +0000 Message-ID: <1722921.FWY8hBbdbQ@curlew.lan> User-Agent: KMail/4.14.3 (FreeBSD/10.2-RELEASE-p7; KDE/4.14.3; amd64; ; ) In-Reply-To: <566FD253.5090906@FreeBSD.org> References: <20151214194012.M53329@brightstar.bomgardner.net> <566FD253.5090906@FreeBSD.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 192.168.1.13 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on curlew.lan X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 Subject: Re: freebsd-update, ZFS, and ver 8.2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on curlew.milibyte.co.uk) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2015 12:28:41 -0000 On Tuesday 15 Dec 2015 08:41:55 Matthew Seaman wrote: > There's more to do to fully update ZFS after this. ZFS has a number of > new features that are available in 10.x which you can use 'zpool > upgrade' to enable. As I understand it, upgrading the zpool would prevent you from reverting to the earlier 8.2 or 9.0 boot environments. In which case I expect it would be safer to avoid the "zpool upgrade" step until you're happy with the 10.2 system. -- Mike Clarke From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Dec 15 12:40:01 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2015A44AB7 for ; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 12:40:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kraduk@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wm0-x230.google.com (mail-wm0-x230.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::230]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 83A0C1049; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 12:40:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kraduk@gmail.com) Received: by mail-wm0-x230.google.com with SMTP id p66so107969879wmp.1; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 04:40:01 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=7a/5nweEXRp3qa6+/ZCsH4hNbPVpd2MAseUSDPn93ZM=; b=DN5y5NktsYuMzpze32xCXEwHCX/6YJ1jRoCM9CtAxfkS+ag0PoovF04Fx32BoIn3rX +q8HsOqVZZ92dPuxS8+kLWwKNo2CL4ytd6y6MMlF5oeYDw3OoEDVz9K+uaKcVdRoatn9 xP2ctwwrgu7xnkd+SAKVz1jBxr/ilG0TfMDYzcZU6D5FXQFzzCYC2rQvNV/hu3OEbln4 p7GVAfRxyBWmQ1ucLGh7SG6mnaprst4hzEL/5gk6qlLcmnsxUgFJhZcC2iCnxEFosq3d mKTVxpE5EwW2TMRIGmK7b/rTsWRQIq/BHXSbXhMUL5vH87Wk5YNuIBvWj37QnEq2ev80 9QXg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.195.13.137 with SMTP id ey9mr50056883wjd.81.1450183200091; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 04:40:00 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.28.181.213 with HTTP; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 04:40:00 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <566FD253.5090906@FreeBSD.org> References: <20151214194012.M53329@brightstar.bomgardner.net> <566FD253.5090906@FreeBSD.org> Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2015 12:40:00 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: freebsd-update, ZFS, and ver 8.2 From: krad To: Matthew Seaman Cc: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2015 12:40:01 -0000 True I missed that part, however you only need to to the pool/dataset upgrade if you want to use all the new features eg lz4 compression. It will still work fine without upgrading the pools/datasets and you will still get all the benefits of the bug fixes and performance boosts done to the kernel code without doing any pool updates. I'm not aware of any feature flags that are needed to make boot environments work, but I may be wrong, but remember BE's were in solaris using pool versions from around version6, and certainly be v28 which is what was originally imported to freebsd before openzfs forked. On 15 December 2015 at 08:41, Matthew Seaman wrote: > On 15/12/2015 08:10, krad wrote: > > I would use boot environments if you are zfs root so you can fail back > > easily. I would also use a src build as that will definitely work. > > > > eg > > > > beadmn create -e old_root new_root > > beadmn mount new_root /mnt > > export DESTDIR=/mnt > > cd /usr/src > > make -j 12 buildworld && > > make -j 12 buildkernel && > > make installworld && > > make installkernel && > > mergemaster && > > beadmn umount new_root && > > beadmn activate new_root > > > > later on init 6 > > There's more to do to fully update ZFS after this. ZFS has a number of > new features that are available in 10.x which you can use 'zpool > upgrade' to enable. > > When you do that, it will tell you to update the boot blocks using > 'gpart bootcode ....' It is vitally important you do that, or you can > render your system unbootable. > > Cheers, > > Matthew > > > > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Dec 15 12:46:11 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4DA9A4794A for ; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 12:46:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@bertram-scharpf.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [212.227.17.13]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1D7BB157D for ; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 12:46:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@bertram-scharpf.de) Received: from becker.bs.l ([85.180.2.104]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue104) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MasKg-1Zu1xY33YQ-00KRfx for ; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 13:46:02 +0100 Received: from bsch by becker.bs.l with local (Exim 4.86 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1a8ozS-0001Dd-19 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 13:46:02 +0100 Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2015 13:46:01 +0100 From: Bertram Scharpf To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: freebsd-update editor choice Message-ID: <20151215124601.GA4020@becker.bs.l> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20151213182848.M69104@brightstar.bomgardner.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20151213182848.M69104@brightstar.bomgardner.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.24 (2015-08-30) Sender: Bertram Scharpf X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:7oOIup9rul1cFdxwvReH/Jl3q8OQ94ROrsXjJsmIktBqq6wR56R NyLlQ4hZ3/wjIWQSsoFJv+4pyZtUY7/+x35iZz9KAx/1cbHuTfuHXDd/nHn8jE1YCz7W+Yl hNJns1kBCCx3ZdoJSI+QR0fx6xEyFGPsradNrLkzrGr98YOJ2OMaRMv901DmqrrHa9hP/ZN JZQX28tbVVKH3bWCpe2/w== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:P/j0vumsGk4=:h8STUV+3FssQ7MSk4pY4RT S7mIHjL69OEInp/mcoYeqzsqv0k6XUaCY/hQ4SYasE34WynFPdMtZlsTu36hC00CNUHC9Ks54 HWq1c8B6/+gxGeamU1JSZveWuYWrat7J2glcG6SrfFLGSMcg8w/NJ4YOnIrBuUojequhUpZiZ tvHwuUzeTy/44t9oUzfGV4Nglj16d6EEvjLrRgoU8A+AvxL2IAFdO+gMFLzDS7c/fifMo4I2R XUxttHGSRTPxycXHFtoK8+OOChwbpvyAEeZyQ0KIswZcGiW6aNckKlmdD7h3HCRmyMBke3A5P m7Gg+xzAkqdCKQVtHKu6e839yEtuAwXU3EB0xyhqnzZGXRy48G+KerCZNO5qMPR3ZLlQX7qYO o+zyjVN6cZJhB2ib4/RKD69cnrH5ObvOwNv9vpGsgk70NqBY553O0VbQtDXRUAY1to7wRRmFf DcRhHJAlaxP800SDKz3CfAKREIEJ3WfNHm9jwOv8jEeoKYLVLESHyZvz/K2n/qw/SH7yc0ZzX /keXfKZnJMUcSuJekkJra9GSKn1niIbnjS/bcupP8hg1ihaa/ZWnBabtdJRB3zI7qpHDOPT+P zdTYQlssktHdJYE3XD0C+b2A2zmdzRxC2aT75vS9xH2k0Fwc9FQi+vN9qC9sNUxZtTNqbT4Va UAi56RLvujADz6m8zOjtgeEVnchBGl4OIl+ELGI0IP3X6y7ZpdRMRl7Qcji7r/cgKbAE= X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2015 12:46:11 -0000 Hi, On Sunday, 13. Dec 2015, 12:31:22 -0600, Gene wrote: > I'm using freebsd-update to update my 10.1 system to 10.2. When merging files, > it insists on using the 'vi' editor. I really, really, REALLY, despise vi. Is > there a way to get it to use another editor? The problem I fussed about many times and long times without any understanding up to this day is not how but _where_ to set the EDITOR environment variable. There is - /etc/login.conf - /etc/rc - /etc/profile (and /etc/zprofile) - /etc/csh.cshrc (or /etc/zshrc) - ~/.profile (and ~/.zprofile) - ~/.shrc, ~/.cshrc, (or ~/.zshrc) - probably some more I forgot here Some programs change their behaviour in dependence of the EDITOR variable. For example if you log into a host with the command $ ssh otherhost -t tmux most of the above files are left unregarded and the TMux option 'status-keys' may be set to an undesired value. Is there any documentation in which order and under which circumstances the above files are executed or come into respect? By the way: there was a time when I considered Vi/Vim a really, really, REALLY weird approach to editing. Then I managed to change my opinion and gave it a try. It was one of the best decisions in my life. Of course, this mail is written in Vim. Bertram -- Bertram Scharpf Stuttgart, Deutschland/Germany http://www.bertram-scharpf.de From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Dec 15 12:59:09 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A989BA436BB for ; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 12:59:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vsasjason@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wm0-x230.google.com (mail-wm0-x230.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::230]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 49F271FEE for ; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 12:59:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vsasjason@gmail.com) Received: by mail-wm0-x230.google.com with SMTP id p66so108771407wmp.1 for ; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 04:59:09 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=XM/zQMwQv18SvIeVCUbZ+5mqHH7vfMVM1AwRWJn6G6Y=; b=gc0rQm6ydnrY/gZF1wZcu38mNayzXjLMvZS/H9xzB0h7YCZawxZVu50033hjuyqzp7 ojd5BbD6/oIm8eFVqabZV274mgGDuIidX/JtpYu3XldzY2FN0Yi5XQq/ay9i+nBdLCQJ VBhnDRDVCA99niSoCYg25N0xDsCm89KtcFmRSWgpGjXC0u8jTbHxj87wMUryV0216MRB CE4U0x+BbM5Hdn5B5Db686KunmnuTOTjFhCucEngNfldrHEiRikYVPxFYigod3bjQc1i SwcOeNgqVGI0rvWRFErspFFCVWgkdE32Zvz68HOCWclocrTPCK6kzeljA+49NPObqSuh 44mg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.195.13.137 with SMTP id ey9mr50182668wjd.81.1450184347822; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 04:59:07 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.194.38.101 with HTTP; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 04:59:07 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.194.38.101 with HTTP; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 04:59:07 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20151215124601.GA4020@becker.bs.l> References: <20151213182848.M69104@brightstar.bomgardner.net> <20151215124601.GA4020@becker.bs.l> Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2015 14:59:07 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: freebsd-update editor choice From: Anton Sayetsky To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2015 12:59:09 -0000 15 =D0=B4=D0=B5=D0=BA. 2015 =D0=B3. 14:46 =D0=BF=D0=BE=D0=BB=D1=8C=D0=B7=D0= =BE=D0=B2=D0=B0=D1=82=D0=B5=D0=BB=D1=8C "Bertram Scharpf" < lists@bertram-scharpf.de> =D0=BD=D0=B0=D0=BF=D0=B8=D1=81=D0=B0=D0=BB: > > Hi, > > On Sunday, 13. Dec 2015, 12:31:22 -0600, Gene wrote: > > I'm using freebsd-update to update my 10.1 system to 10.2. When merging files, > > it insists on using the 'vi' editor. I really, really, REALLY, despise vi. Is > > there a way to get it to use another editor? > > The problem I fussed about many times and long times without > any understanding up to this day is not how but _where_ to > set the EDITOR environment variable. There is > > - /etc/login.conf This applies to all logins. > - /etc/rc You should never touch this file. > - /etc/profile (and /etc/zprofile) For bash-like and zsh shells, system wide. > - /etc/csh.cshrc (or /etc/zshrc) For [t]csh and zsh, system wide. > - ~/.profile (and ~/.zprofile) Bash-like and zsh, user-specific. > - ~/.shrc, ~/.cshrc, (or ~/.zshrc) For sh, [t]csh and zsh, user specific. *rc usually read when shell starts, *profile only when entering interactive session, AFAIK. Advanced shells will read all supported files, for example zsh can read shrc, bashrc and respective *profile. Also, can you show me the shell where this isn't documented in manpage? ;-) > - probably some more I forgot here > > Some programs change their behaviour in dependence of the > EDITOR variable. For example if you log into a host with the > command > > $ ssh otherhost -t tmux > > most of the above files are left unregarded and the TMux > option 'status-keys' may be set to an undesired value. > > Is there any documentation in which order and under which > circumstances the above files are executed or come into > respect? > > By the way: there was a time when I considered Vi/Vim a > really, really, REALLY weird approach to editing. Then I > managed to change my opinion and gave it a try. It was one > of the best decisions in my life. Of course, this mail is > written in Vim. > > Bertram > > > -- > Bertram Scharpf > Stuttgart, Deutschland/Germany > http://www.bertram-scharpf.de > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Dec 15 13:28:19 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36E06A44E37 for ; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 13:28:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-wm0-x236.google.com (mail-wm0-x236.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::236]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D7BEA1472 for ; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 13:28:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: by mail-wm0-x236.google.com with SMTP id n186so164954408wmn.1 for ; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 05:28:18 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=wD9spdboL9bLckTpv8k8YmUaQbOrI/VPWT0rWaiIiNE=; b=w5npGGQ1tSJq+HI3IRB1nlRGdZ+CcqWbg+ee/ZWuFeC63J8ZO6KNf2XMTzEw8gyDTh 5f7AegUblguw75nbzXOZpOjtDCPa9PMcm8vjq2QAxEon6DGk7XSJc8CR9883xOiWsZ2w 3UT/cy5hXCfQ48wobY5rdPFaloU+KHmMyvW1ZfvhHsVTkO0TM+YHEWSYFE6EbgyjIlNu PJ0LZBEJV+R4kCAhwsPuTPp3Pyyczd19/Gxod7y+cD+WgAGKuRPj76TwPbZzsLlU+Yge Co/9Pa40rcbOFDUAEsD2GCCPCpKwK2mlwGXCGemwvAyT/eCFalYJMLALtMnCIdna7hRW zfGA== X-Received: by 10.28.15.146 with SMTP id 140mr4516064wmp.79.1450186097362; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 05:28:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com ([94.0.150.31]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id u4sm1463073wjz.4.2015.12.15.05.28.15 for (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 15 Dec 2015 05:28:16 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2015 13:28:12 +0000 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Upgrade question? Message-ID: <20151215132812.19d2c880@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <20151214204949.GA27984@darth-vader.org> References: <20151214204949.GA27984@darth-vader.org> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.13.0 (GTK+ 2.24.29; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.2) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2015 13:28:19 -0000 On Mon, 14 Dec 2015 14:49:49 -0600 Bryan Albright wrote: > Hi folks! > > When upgrading from 8.4 to 9.3,in preparation to go from 9.3 to 10.2, > does it make sense to do a full port upgrade, after checking > /usr/ports/UPDATING (of course?) > > Something like a > % portupgrade -a > > Between the update to 9.3 and the update to 10.2? Or can I "get away > with" a update from 8.4 to 9.3, then update 9.3 to 10.2, then doa > portupgrade -a? When you cross a major boundary you should rebuild *all* install ports. It's not necessary, but I do usually do update ports before just to establish that they all build correctly. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Dec 15 13:28:34 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 820A3A45704 for ; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 13:28:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jcigar@ulb.ac.be) Received: from relay-b02.edpnet.be (relay-b02.edpnet.be [212.71.1.222]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "edpnet.email", Issuer "Go Daddy Secure Certificate Authority - G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3EFFC152F for ; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 13:28:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jcigar@ulb.ac.be) X-ASG-Debug-ID: 1450186100-0a7b8d5396ef9230001-jLrpzn Received: from mordor.lan (77.109.103.53.adsl.dyn.edpnet.net [77.109.103.53]) by relay-b02.edpnet.be with ESMTP id 1hX5CeoyGmSz3F0A (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 15 Dec 2015 14:28:22 +0100 (CET) X-Barracuda-Envelope-From: jcigar@ulb.ac.be X-Barracuda-Effective-Source-IP: 77.109.103.53.adsl.dyn.edpnet.net[77.109.103.53] X-Barracuda-Apparent-Source-IP: 77.109.103.53 Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2015 14:28:20 +0100 From: Julien Cigar To: Gregory Orange Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Redundant router/firewall configuration (WAS: CARP demotion counter) Message-ID: <20151215132820.GT13477@mordor.lan> X-ASG-Orig-Subj: Re: Redundant router/firewall configuration (WAS: CARP demotion counter) References: <20151210182821.GM13477@mordor.lan> <566E2CE3.3050706@calorieking.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="b6wpfJ0ubkUt1Toh" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <566E2CE3.3050706@calorieking.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.24 (2015-08-30) X-Barracuda-Connect: 77.109.103.53.adsl.dyn.edpnet.net[77.109.103.53] X-Barracuda-Start-Time: 1450186101 X-Barracuda-Encrypted: ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 X-Barracuda-URL: https://212.71.1.222:443/cgi-mod/mark.cgi X-Barracuda-Scan-Msg-Size: 995 X-Virus-Scanned: by bsmtpd at edpnet.be X-Barracuda-Malware-Scanned: by bsmtpd at edpnet.be X-Barracuda-BRTS-Status: 1 X-Barracuda-Spam-Score: 0.00 X-Barracuda-Spam-Status: No, SCORE=0.00 using global scores of TAG_LEVEL=1000.0 QUARANTINE_LEVEL=1000.0 KILL_LEVEL=9.0 tests= X-Barracuda-Spam-Report: Code version 3.2, rules version 3.2.3.25282 Rule breakdown below pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2015 13:28:34 -0000 --b6wpfJ0ubkUt1Toh Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Dec 14, 2015 at 10:43:47AM +0800, Gregory Orange wrote: > Hi Julien et al, Hello, >=20 > On 11/12/15 02:28, Julien Cigar wrote: > > I'm busy to setup a redundant router/firewall with two Soekris 6501, PF, > > CARP and PFSync. >=20 > I plan to embark on building a system like this soon. Can you share=20 > documentation, guides or other information that you are using to build th= is? >=20 I'll try to write a blog post as soon as I get a little time .. > Thanks, > Greg. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" --=20 Julien Cigar Belgian Biodiversity Platform (http://www.biodiversity.be) PGP fingerprint: EEF9 F697 4B68 D275 7B11 6A25 B2BB 3710 A204 23C0 No trees were killed in the creation of this message. However, many electrons were terribly inconvenienced. --b6wpfJ0ubkUt1Toh Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQIcBAABCgAGBQJWcBVxAAoJEAi2KiTKQR5pmFwP/1Qe91A9nvR42mQQOwR+KOE5 qQSC+0slDsr7dcco4LWd3ye+K3oZsWlwaHzr1QWYAHI6SfaoAME3F7rE1hvi+ou3 C66hC3zfwOk9upyg942xabIPlI6iehDSZOJkSh2rg2naLS7Vs68k+ODniZ2CdpYY ORP0wh5bdHUHyG2WKZukwhc/B9HqgJp0sD6n2ygZDbcNRCe8gNWO2b69vcXbkZvt 8zDhw0WQy/qDjcVuhI6XJo0qzrfl7jQYNIfVg9IoxenpJZfs4oQjRqpaEnuiDK/5 EjPy6Naj2MB8IcqDr4xsHwEWs/6MbOEOxYczYJhUTu26gVOzTXlVexjz/tiX+5wF N1F71/4KFN30EOOZElxau/PHpInUf0DdXCUxPhOxAw/ZwTscxGnogQkES9gVclHv 8t7G7pIXPKtwhuabH26v1aDlaja+5g4KMvLhHvpC5ZksDO0TffBphP/jB/Ay/f47 k+fcIVdP+KDHiYopFMKOsCHnyn1jdf0G5fi5Mzo0RTItrjqm3KywlakB6/3PEWXw OvQXzhE6f9Ap6Cuu71vFMcr88TPhUBczZ6hPRFduIvGubirlw26TnlZojtutNDyy VZPtvg4evR6NWlLl8DPtmcCnsextrYfAqa7HBeK2/pvVTtLLei91NyspK4+jaIWH hW0HdL16nvJwqtNzvPBi =Dcmk -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --b6wpfJ0ubkUt1Toh-- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Dec 15 13:48:49 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0DD8A488DA for ; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 13:48:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@freebsd.org) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3cd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk", Issuer "infracaninophile.co.uk" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5B66D12A2 for ; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 13:48:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@freebsd.org) Received: from ox-dell39.ox.adestra.com (no-reverse-dns.metronet-uk.com [85.199.232.226] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id tBFDmcAu056070 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO); Tue, 15 Dec 2015 13:48:39 GMT (envelope-from matthew@freebsd.org) Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk; dmarc=none header.from=freebsd.org DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.10.3 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk tBFDmcAu056070 Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk/tBFDmcAu056070; dkim=none; dkim-atps=neutral X-Authentication-Warning: lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk: Host no-reverse-dns.metronet-uk.com [85.199.232.226] (may be forged) claimed to be ox-dell39.ox.adestra.com Subject: Re: freebsd-update, ZFS, and ver 8.2 To: krad References: <20151214194012.M53329@brightstar.bomgardner.net> <566FD253.5090906@FreeBSD.org> Cc: FreeBSD Questions From: Matthew Seaman X-Enigmail-Draft-Status: N1110 Message-ID: <56701A36.4060904@freebsd.org> Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2015 13:48:38 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="5Sn4uIX8PvvhNe58itqcogNGNqkDOlOXA" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.98.7 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2015 13:48:49 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --5Sn4uIX8PvvhNe58itqcogNGNqkDOlOXA Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 12/15/15 12:40, krad wrote: > I'm not aware of any feature flags that are needed to make boot > environments work, but I may be wrong, but remember BE's were in solari= s > using pool versions from around version6, and certainly be v28 which is= > what was originally imported to freebsd before openzfs forked. There's nothing special required to make boot environments work -- they've been part of ZFS pretty much since before it was ported to FreeBSD. However, the gptzfsboot boot blocks will not allow you to boot up a ZFS pool of higher version than they were compiled for or containing various enabled features they don't know about. So it's necessary to rewrite them with an up to date copy using the updated samples in /boot/gptzfsboot if you update your zpool. This is independent of whether you're using boot environments or not. Oh, and being able to use lz4 compression is a very good reason why you'ld want to do that upgrade. lz4 is why new installs can default to turning compression on everywhere by default. It's fast enough, and it can work out it's not going to be able to compress some disk blocks quickly enough (and so just write those disk blocks uncompressed) that it is generally a win in almost all situations. Cheers, Matthew --5Sn4uIX8PvvhNe58itqcogNGNqkDOlOXA Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJWcBo2AAoJEABRPxDgqeTnxDAP/j3DnJio6aJEaFl1dR9W0iyK DukUnkTiiHJ8+iHm61JCY3/zczUAQEcJbz2R4DKv+X00B260karr0zHh86a3sduJ VaYXDDo4R8aZ7U/LBaZGkGuutcmEpkVwhOeIXkOX5hFTOeDKucIWa9myqH570FYT NY0sokd3k2tHLvsil8H7PnZI4FykNx76Q0oDsXct9lisE6u5S7nrlXMG8RMw2XnZ e7SQjQcwcPgE+cTfX1oRPnLtbTbMTO7pQ81CgT6+Sau4BP/xuUSyTvqgXQ2k4Q2l hD9tmFmPtb8QLELHi00AZbw9A7KCEgw16ZLVle86r/wdNXmTrqgxCd9D0C/h5t5f rGXGmqU6PDeDamlgcT5lDfgGP2lsBZ+ZhRpJgUIvzYPaUhc9JBMF02APUFwdEanB SCEuX7o8Us3VEAGBd0UMPOQrLJpDkMS0bjc0oPhbwteSDQRfEJVHs2a6fcUcGVr7 /sR9FCDZ3fqlKU7t7c1lsbAmhDXgRiD/iimIDDJy1x8ZRv5EbtlM8F9KrlrarQXG c1X9iHmqVXsKV4ysEw94YHHiMqJUaDA6aB3OUIhDbuaARxZhgPK17oqF0y3L4KDe w4QUsw1vh2e3IJAfhUTjFBe53FqHB3oj5YuHQKivjyny64+heoG91zw+s+dtOc5Y H+3Tnwyb3N5U3XPQ23YE =ZnLK -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --5Sn4uIX8PvvhNe58itqcogNGNqkDOlOXA-- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Dec 15 13:53:21 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94314A48BF0 for ; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 13:53:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@freebsd.org) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3cd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk", Issuer "infracaninophile.co.uk" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 25694162F for ; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 13:53:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@freebsd.org) Received: from ox-dell39.ox.adestra.com (no-reverse-dns.metronet-uk.com [85.199.232.226] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id tBFDrGIj068085 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 13:53:16 GMT (envelope-from matthew@freebsd.org) Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk; dmarc=none header.from=freebsd.org DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.10.3 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk tBFDrGIj068085 Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk/tBFDrGIj068085; dkim=none; dkim-atps=neutral X-Authentication-Warning: lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk: Host no-reverse-dns.metronet-uk.com [85.199.232.226] (may be forged) claimed to be ox-dell39.ox.adestra.com Subject: Re: freebsd-update, ZFS, and ver 8.2 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20151214194012.M53329@brightstar.bomgardner.net> <566FD253.5090906@FreeBSD.org> <1722921.FWY8hBbdbQ@curlew.lan> From: Matthew Seaman Message-ID: <56701B4A.3000403@freebsd.org> Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2015 13:53:14 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <1722921.FWY8hBbdbQ@curlew.lan> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="3UN8Ju6fhcAoBRalggnWFt3o2iroskJj2" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.98.7 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2015 13:53:21 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --3UN8Ju6fhcAoBRalggnWFt3o2iroskJj2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 12/15/15 12:24, Mike Clarke wrote: > On Tuesday 15 Dec 2015 08:41:55 Matthew Seaman wrote: >=20 >> There's more to do to fully update ZFS after this. ZFS has a number o= f >> new features that are available in 10.x which you can use 'zpool >> upgrade' to enable. >=20 > As I understand it, upgrading the zpool would prevent you from revertin= g to=20 > the earlier 8.2 or 9.0 boot environments. In which case I expect it wou= ld be=20 > safer to avoid the "zpool upgrade" step until you're happy with the 10.= 2=20 > system. That's certainly true. Rewriting the boot blocks won't prevent you from going back to 8.x but updating the zpool certainly will. So, yes, don't do this step until you're happy that 10.2 is working properly and there's no need to revert. 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Dec 2015, 14:59:07 +0200, Anton Sayetsky wrote: > 15 =D0=B4=D0=B5=D0=BA. 2015 =D0=B3. 14:46 =D0=BF=D0=BE=D0=BB=D1=8C=D0=B7= =D0=BE=D0=B2=D0=B0=D1=82=D0=B5=D0=BB=D1=8C "Bertram Scharpf" < > lists@bertram-scharpf.de> =D0=BD=D0=B0=D0=BF=D0=B8=D1=81=D0=B0=D0=BB: > > The problem I fussed about many times and long times without > > any understanding up to this day is not how but _where_ to > > set the EDITOR environment variable. There is > > > > - /etc/login.conf > This applies to all logins. Not the X login. I use Slim and Xfce4. When starting a command from the panel like "urxvt -e irb" (interactive Ruby)(*) or "urxvt -e tmux" the EDITOR variable still is empty. TMux tries to read the variable and will not set its option "status-keys" properly which is very annoying. My workaround is to source "/etc/profile" in " ~/.xinitrc". Nevertheless it is surprising behaviour. I log in and "login.conf" will not be read. Bertram *) I wrote my own interactive Ruby that can pipe results into an editor session. --=20 Bertram Scharpf Stuttgart, Deutschland/Germany http://www.bertram-scharpf.de From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Dec 15 14:58:15 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1827A448C9 for ; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 14:58:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wam@hiwaay.net) Received: from fly.hiwaay.net (fly.hiwaay.net [216.180.54.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B4EF51576 for ; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 14:58:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wam@hiwaay.net) Received: from kabini1.local (dynamic-216-186-213-32.knology.net [216.186.213.32] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by fly.hiwaay.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/fly) with ESMTP id tBFEw7Wp006983 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 08:58:08 -0600 Subject: Re: freebsd-update editor choice To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20151213182848.M69104@brightstar.bomgardner.net> <20151215124601.GA4020@becker.bs.l> From: "William A. Mahaffey III" Message-ID: <56702A7F.70404@hiwaay.net> Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2015 09:03:37 -0553.75 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20151215124601.GA4020@becker.bs.l> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2015 14:58:16 -0000 On 12/15/15 06:52, Bertram Scharpf wrote: > Hi, > > On Sunday, 13. Dec 2015, 12:31:22 -0600, Gene wrote: >> I'm using freebsd-update to update my 10.1 system to 10.2. When merging files, >> it insists on using the 'vi' editor. I really, really, REALLY, despise vi. Is >> there a way to get it to use another editor? > The problem I fussed about many times and long times without > any understanding up to this day is not how but _where_ to > set the EDITOR environment variable. There is > > - /etc/login.conf > - /etc/rc > - /etc/profile (and /etc/zprofile) > - /etc/csh.cshrc (or /etc/zshrc) > - ~/.profile (and ~/.zprofile) > - ~/.shrc, ~/.cshrc, (or ~/.zshrc) > - probably some more I forgot here > > Some programs change their behaviour in dependence of the > EDITOR variable. For example if you log into a host with the > command > > $ ssh otherhost -t tmux > > most of the above files are left unregarded and the TMux > option 'status-keys' may be set to an undesired value. > > Is there any documentation in which order and under which > circumstances the above files are executed or come into > respect? > > By the way: there was a time when I considered Vi/Vim a > really, really, REALLY weird approach to editing. Then I > managed to change my opinion and gave it a try. It was one > of the best decisions in my life. Of course, this mail is > written in Vim. > > Bertram Preach it *LOUD*, brother ;-) .... -- William A. Mahaffey III ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war ever devised by man." -- Gen. George S. 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[137.222.170.4]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id dc2sm2234846wjc.13.2015.12.15.09.06.05 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 15 Dec 2015 09:06:05 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2015 09:06:05 -0800 (PST) X-Google-Original-Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2015 17:06:04 GMT Received: from mech-as222.men.bris.ac.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mech-as222.men.bris.ac.uk (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id tBFH64R7000927 for ; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 17:06:04 GMT (envelope-from mexas@mech-as222.men.bris.ac.uk) Received: (from mexas@localhost) by mech-as222.men.bris.ac.uk (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id tBFH64t0000926 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 17:06:04 GMT (envelope-from mexas) From: Anton Shterenlikht Message-Id: <201512151706.tBFH64t0000926@mech-as222.men.bris.ac.uk> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Sun Fire X4200 M2 - help fix console login Reply-To: mexas@bris.ac.uk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2015 17:06:08 -0000 Hi I've been through lots of oracle docs, online help and mailing list archives. Still can't make it work. Just in case somebody is using Sun Fire X4200 M2, asking here. I can connect to ILOM via ethernet - no problem. I can start a console and see boot process going on, until the FreeBSD kernel starts to boot. The last line I see is: /boot/kernel/kernel text=0xfc8d88 data=0x1283b0+0x207880 syms=[0x8+0x145350| After that nothing is appering at the console. Eventually the boot process is complete and I can login to the server via ssh. I'm trying to get a console login, but can't. Does this BIOS config look right? * Configure Remote Access type and parameters * * *************************************************** * * Remote Access [Enabled] * * * * Serial port number [COM1] * * Base Address, IRQ [3F8h, 4] * * Serial Port Mode [09600 8,n,1] * * Flow Control [None] * * Redirection After BIOS POST [Always] * * Terminal Type [ANSI] * * VT-UTF8 Combo Key Support [Enabled] * * Sredir Memory Display Delay [No Delay] * I'm particulary uncertain about "Redirection After BIOS POST". The options are Disabled, Boot Loader and Always. The on-screen help says: Disable: Turns off the redirection after POST. Boot Loader: Redirection is active during POST and during Boot Loader. Always: Redirection is always active. (Some OSs may not work if set to Always). I'm not even clear about redirection of what to where? It seems if I set Disabled or Boot loader I don't even get to the FreeBSD kernel boot line. The console seems to freeze some time prior to that. The boot still proceeds ok, but no console login prompt is issued, only ssh login is possible. In /etc/ttys I have: ttyu0 "/usr/libexec/getty std.9600" vt100 onifconsole secure ttyu1 "/usr/libexec/getty std.9600" vt100 onifconsole secure ttyu2 "/usr/libexec/getty std.9600" vt100 onifconsole secure ttyu3 "/usr/libexec/getty std.9600" dialup on secure In dmesg: $ dmesg | grep uart uart0: <16550 or compatible> port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on acpi0 uart0: <16550 or compatible> port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on acpi0 $ dmesg | grep tty $ dmesg | grep cons sc0: at flags 0x100 on isa0 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300> Please advise Thanks Anton From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Dec 15 17:10:26 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F93BA48FFC for ; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 17:10:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from mail-wm0-x22e.google.com (mail-wm0-x22e.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::22e]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CBEE41AA6 for ; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 17:10:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: by mail-wm0-x22e.google.com with SMTP id n186so105006365wmn.0 for ; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 09:10:25 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=bris-ac-uk.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=date:from:message-id:to:subject:cc:reply-to:in-reply-to; bh=iUzqL1jdN2SSmVi9zvo/VMbIIZ8Amjd8voCv32ZawBo=; b=uzqydZSZQ+BkLoY8lSjY6xRgFMABYKG7qAWfR2Bufv1w0fs6qaWul5r+OwDIaE4jdv TObpK5DSQcD8DgF/RS1fd8U5RQq8e3jOah91arV1bBXza5S09VQLKww85yRAJhF1kmjX I1VakmxvpqkEFrByj708LCSWwketCtAr/bEs0qQKqeMkcXDN8zJO8/b7Z2zGi0xjwylq 72v1Y5phu/dc2jtFkyWmqu0JGRUBW39pKgehL0VTh79z47vRctI3brEVuMp/W6u9S+tL hCbgOcH7tLhMwfJAOaHo1dQ0yC92vxNdy9B2X0DiuqpAZeOYH9DYswpsJm+jmtVq2Kda zEtw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:date:from:message-id:to:subject:cc:reply-to :in-reply-to; bh=iUzqL1jdN2SSmVi9zvo/VMbIIZ8Amjd8voCv32ZawBo=; b=mByVDkcNo9KS7INDUlVsQKrIiWRfMD7S0JWvmFT71ElcFPc5X6splsmbbsSXpwxW8o IKcWN/m9StXiW91Ga58eBbCyYMU21BepmLt1iQvhjrKXsTPYRRs+9BTmhoi6eFwEqVJp AbXgzZspZgE0YsXtBlYANhw+fKmxpsZt2rzZnWUt/sYDb7QjH5y/MHAidhh97mFI7SR/ 0LnuG7Ybs8KV5V9VTCK6rN+xIAhNejREvbsRWbkM/vigw6pMQWYgFmYCuBxpMw0dTZuz PyM88wivF+uXVBYCXVbKUGAzO0wlGNeB83gDe/7/jelJ7Ay+U3XAHL3W1NQH+KejHT7e TroA== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmbUwgDTE95GMq1mJU36OhkyoZbzGizBP01NOos1LQH++PFrSktu3rw6VKHPTxdx9VBXuyts9iK8bzUFkfxJg1+gAu0+w== X-Received: by 10.28.187.4 with SMTP id l4mr6011689wmf.33.1450199424289; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 09:10:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from mech-as222.men.bris.ac.uk (mech-as222.men.bris.ac.uk. [137.222.170.4]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id u4sm2256987wjz.4.2015.12.15.09.10.23 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 15 Dec 2015 09:10:23 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2015 09:10:23 -0800 (PST) X-Google-Original-Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2015 17:10:22 GMT Received: from mech-as222.men.bris.ac.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mech-as222.men.bris.ac.uk (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id tBFHAMDH000950; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 17:10:22 GMT (envelope-from mexas@mech-as222.men.bris.ac.uk) Received: (from mexas@localhost) by mech-as222.men.bris.ac.uk (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id tBFHAMNd000949; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 17:10:22 GMT (envelope-from mexas) From: Anton Shterenlikht Message-Id: <201512151710.tBFHAMNd000949@mech-as222.men.bris.ac.uk> To: amvandemore@gmail.com, mexas@bris.ac.uk Subject: Re: help number disks via /boot/device.hints Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Reply-To: mexas@bris.ac.uk In-Reply-To: X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2015 17:10:26 -0000 >From amvandemore@gmail.com Fri Dec 4 14:27:24 2015 >On Fri, Dec 4, 2015 at 4:47 AM, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > >> I've a problem - when the fibre disks are connected >> at boot, the boot disk is not given da0 and I cannot boot. >> So what I do now is disconnect the fiber disk until boot >> is completed, and connect is manually afterwards. >> >> Then I get: >> >> da0 at mpt0 bus 0 scbus3 target 2 lun 0 >> da0: Fixed Direct Access SPC-3 SCSI device >> da0: Serial Number B399P790FBEG >> da0: 300.000MB/s transfers >> da0: Command Queueing enabled >> da0: 70006MB (143374000 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 8924C) >> >> da1 at isp0 bus 0 scbus2 target 0 lun 5 >> da1: Fixed Direct Access SPC-2 SCSI device >> da1: Serial Number P56350GX3RX04Z >> da1: 200.000MB/s transfers WWNN 0x500805f3000ec220 WWPN 0x500805f3000ec221 >> PortID 0x10000 >> da1: Command Queueing enabled >> da1: 140011MB (286744185 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 17849C) >> >> How can I set in /boot/device.hints that the MSA1000 >> disk is da1 and IBM is the boot disk da0? >> > >man 4 cam After some trial and error I figured out that this seems to work: hint.scbus.0.at="mpt0" hint.scbus.1.at="isp0" which gives: da1 at isp0 bus 0 scbus1 target 0 lun 5 da1: Fixed Direct Access SPC-2 SCSI device da1: Serial Number P56350GX3RX04Z da1: 200.000MB/s transfers WWNN 0x500805f3000ec220 WWPN 0x500805f3000ec221 PortID 0x10000 da1: Command Queueing enabled da1: 140011MB (286744185 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 17849C) da0 at mpt0 bus 0 scbus0 target 2 lun 0 da0: Fixed Direct Access SPC-3 SCSI device da0: Serial Number B399P790FBEG da0: 300.000MB/s transfers da0: Command Queueing enabled da0: 70006MB (143374000 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 8924C) and: # camcontrol devlist all at scbus0 target 2 lun 0 (pass0,da0) at scbus1 target 0 lun 0 (pass1) at scbus1 target 0 lun 5 (pass2,da1) at scbus2 target 0 lun 0 (pass3,cd0) But I see in dmesg: Ambiguous scbus configuration for mpt0 bus 1, cannot wire down. The kernel config entry for scbus0 should specify a controller bus. Scbus will be assigned dynamically. Have I got it wrong? Thanks Anton From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Dec 15 17:35:21 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7880CA4801F for ; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 17:35:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wm0-x235.google.com (mail-wm0-x235.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::235]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 180671BBA for ; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 17:35:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: by mail-wm0-x235.google.com with SMTP id l126so4316043wml.1 for ; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 09:35:21 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; 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[137.222.170.4]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id az6sm2385046wjc.25.2015.12.15.09.53.15 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 15 Dec 2015 09:53:15 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2015 09:53:15 -0800 (PST) X-Google-Original-Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2015 17:53:14 GMT Received: from mech-as222.men.bris.ac.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mech-as222.men.bris.ac.uk (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id tBFHrEOu000882; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 17:53:14 GMT (envelope-from mexas@mech-as222.men.bris.ac.uk) Received: (from mexas@localhost) by mech-as222.men.bris.ac.uk (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id tBFHrEdJ000881; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 17:53:14 GMT (envelope-from mexas) From: Anton Shterenlikht Message-Id: <201512151753.tBFHrEdJ000881@mech-as222.men.bris.ac.uk> To: amvandemore@gmail.com, mexas@bris.ac.uk Subject: Re: help number disks via /boot/device.hints Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Reply-To: mexas@bris.ac.uk In-Reply-To: X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2015 17:53:18 -0000 >From amvandemore@gmail.com Tue Dec 15 17:42:27 2015 >> >> and: >> >> # camcontrol devlist all >> at scbus0 target 2 lun 0 (pass0,da0) >> at scbus1 target 0 lun 0 (pass1) >> at scbus1 target 0 lun 5 (pass2,da1) >> at scbus2 target 0 lun 0 (pass3,cd0) >> >> But I see in dmesg: >> >> Ambiguous scbus configuration for mpt0 bus 1, cannot wire down. >> The kernel config entry for scbus0 should specify a controller bus. >> Scbus will be assigned dynamically. >> > >I think you also want to add at least: > >hint.scbus.0.bus="0" Thank you, that removed the above message/warning. Anton From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Dec 15 18:07:16 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC759A435DE for ; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 18:07:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vsasjason@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wm0-x235.google.com (mail-wm0-x235.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::235]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8B3641148 for ; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 18:07:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vsasjason@gmail.com) Received: by mail-wm0-x235.google.com with SMTP id l126so5917386wml.1 for ; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 10:07:16 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=Fb4xanHXinJmWw/ctV8vkiblSMdVoVP5X+jD+qQCghQ=; b=fGHjwrY1+IJrWgFQedBmgrnm9kNwowBKh0Zabg3Vln360n6kNmWBFiqAC/dWx6XOqp dB8JwW8SQcU9OSwPxAlXh3qb05niEmY1BZTmRnndioFxUiMknhenUIqEczXEiJ21NXK/ 5RWLHVbxwTuj9ySV4QkAOdJN/DbbHdeZY5eFDHlaKadGFn9nhm7zAaeFFpKfJLo4LxCD vasvsSnpwsFvlWy76/cyJAdYmZCfsEI9Jo/hL2phGIi/dYa1R8Fd47HEPEcfwFVHHKv6 g8p0cumbHVJYFzAcvozCU6NX7nICAPqFq74yjH8D4cV26ewqBpxBN4bhp5CHR8B/ki0C PXtw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.28.32.22 with SMTP id g22mr6190660wmg.43.1450202835098; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 10:07:15 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.194.76.207 with HTTP; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 10:07:15 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.194.76.207 with HTTP; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 10:07:15 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2015 20:07:15 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Looking for fully working Intel-based laptop From: Anton Sayetsky To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2015 18:07:17 -0000 Hello, I'm in search for subj for several years, but still have no success. Maybe anyone can help me on this list, so requirements are below: MANDATORY: 1. Ivy Bridge i5/i7 CPU (or newer, but only with nVidia card and ability to totally disable Intel graphics), AES-NI and VT available 2. 1920x1080+, 15.6"+ screen with good quality 3. 2+ SATA ports, at least one SATA3 4. 2+ RAM slots 5. Fully working ACPI S3, without black magic like unloading any kernel modules 6. Gigabit Ethernet Is it possible to find such laptop? And some optional requirements below: 1. IPS screen 2. Matte screen plating 3. Metal case 4. Working Fn keys From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Dec 15 19:46:04 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4BFAA48A1D for ; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 19:46:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6E556163C for ; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 19:46:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-31-25.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.31.25]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D04FA27847; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 20:46:00 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id tBFJk1X3014884; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 20:46:01 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2015 20:46:01 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Bertram Scharpf Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: freebsd-update editor choice Message-Id: <20151215204601.bd653269.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20151215124601.GA4020@becker.bs.l> References: <20151213182848.M69104@brightstar.bomgardner.net> <20151215124601.GA4020@becker.bs.l> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2015 19:46:04 -0000 On Tue, 15 Dec 2015 13:46:01 +0100, Bertram Scharpf wrote: > Hi, > > On Sunday, 13. Dec 2015, 12:31:22 -0600, Gene wrote: > > I'm using freebsd-update to update my 10.1 system to 10.2. When merging files, > > it insists on using the 'vi' editor. I really, really, REALLY, despise vi. Is > > there a way to get it to use another editor? > > The problem I fussed about many times and long times without > any understanding up to this day is not how but _where_ to > set the EDITOR environment variable. There is > > - /etc/login.conf This will set environment variables globally for all users who login, not depending on the shell. There is also a user-level file ~/.login_conf which overrides settings made in the global file for a specific user upon login. > - /etc/rc Don't touch this file! :-) > - /etc/profile (and /etc/zprofile) This applies for sh and zsh globally. > - /etc/csh.cshrc (or /etc/zshrc) This is for the C shell. > - ~/.profile (and ~/.zprofile) This is the user-specific file for sh and zsh. It will override any settings made in the global files. It will be read if the shell is a login shell. > - ~/.shrc, ~/.cshrc, (or ~/.zshrc) Similar for sh, csh and zsh, except .shrc and .zshrc will be applied to interactive shells (which aren't neccessarily login shells). > - probably some more I forgot here For bash: .bash_profile, -bash_login, and .bashrc. > Some programs change their behaviour in dependence of the > EDITOR variable. For example if you log into a host with the > command > > $ ssh otherhost -t tmux > > most of the above files are left unregarded and the TMux > option 'status-keys' may be set to an undesired value. This depends on how login shells and interactive shells are being configured and how they inherit environmental variables. > Is there any documentation in which order and under which > circumstances the above files are executed or come into > respect? Yes. Those informations can be found in the manual pages of the respective shells ("man sh", "man csh", "man zsh", and "man bash"). -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Dec 15 19:54:46 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9FF4A48139 for ; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 19:54:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 73E811164 for ; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 19:54:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-31-25.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.31.25]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D82D03CF3F; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 20:54:37 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id tBFJscc0014911; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 20:54:38 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2015 20:54:38 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Bertram Scharpf Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: freebsd-update editor choice Message-Id: <20151215205438.a66ed0c4.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20151215143443.GA20588@becker.bs.l> References: <20151213182848.M69104@brightstar.bomgardner.net> <20151215124601.GA4020@becker.bs.l> <20151215143443.GA20588@becker.bs.l> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2015 19:54:46 -0000 On Tue, 15 Dec 2015 15:34:43 +0100, Bertram Scharpf wrote: > Hi, > > On Tuesday, 15. Dec 2015, 14:59:07 +0200, Anton Sayetsky wrote: > > 15 дек. 2015 г. 14:46 пользователь "Bertram Scharpf" < > > lists@bertram-scharpf.de> написал: > > > The problem I fussed about many times and long times without > > > any understanding up to this day is not how but _where_ to > > > set the EDITOR environment variable. There is > > > > > > - /etc/login.conf > > This applies to all logins. > > Not the X login. That's correct - it will only apply to login shells. If you want to make sure all your settings work in X, you can use this "cascade" approach: In ~/.xsession #!/bin/csh source ~/.cshrc exec ~/.xinitrc This file will be read by the display manager. And then use ~/.xinitrc for your individual X setup. Now all the X terminals started inside X will correctly reflect your shell settings (global and local). Two advantages: You have your X setup only in _one_ file, and it will work no matter if you use "startx" or XDM or Slim or any other display manager (except maybe the one of Gnome which totally does _not_ what you think it does). > My workaround is to source "/etc/profile" in " ~/.xinitrc". > Nevertheless it is surprising behaviour. I log in and > "login.conf" will not be read. Interesting approach. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Dec 15 20:12:18 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F084AA48D6C for ; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 20:12:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wm0-x236.google.com (mail-wm0-x236.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::236]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 916ED1C2A for ; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 20:12:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: by mail-wm0-x236.google.com with SMTP id n186so111893199wmn.0 for ; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 12:12:17 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=GPEPu2S2FnD1TfRm/3DCO48sqt3kmmNIuzUcZ55XVxc=; b=Py9jMLBwF9iy+nSQ7FeMURrzFAUWcfJzSSi/qhfj4zJ9Vmg1WFbSYJEaIIZPOnJBzp lj0MAmWXMy7yGyf6PAqLYB9LCVA9WzY71PD97zOZebzhvyE3G6sGYvoKBW7OEmzlT7rP Ww9tpgwSW7fKEUL5Fkls+XirD+7W71eeQwkyn783HX6IRabu3hYNe0157Nc+kGxJxC8R ZQiZgRAmEy951PEXzN4iBYqX9l7VueU0l3wc56S2+XhYkdN1QrREyt7u0U8fR4Yv4ffg HMBf3jn8dPhFXULJ/Lz9RqqIgwEvrwV0p2G8tHjLxoxlpEO+kj0Rz4lSPxTaADYKDctE YaJw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.194.9.169 with SMTP id a9mr45753398wjb.60.1450210336057; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 12:12:16 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.194.192.33 with HTTP; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 12:12:15 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2015 14:12:15 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Looking for fully working Intel-based laptop From: Adam Vande More To: Anton Sayetsky Cc: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2015 20:12:18 -0000 On Tue, Dec 15, 2015 at 12:07 PM, Anton Sayetsky wrote: > Hello, > > I'm in search for subj for several years, but still have no success. Maybe > anyone can help me on this list, so requirements are below: > > MANDATORY: > 1. Ivy Bridge i5/i7 CPU (or newer, but only with nVidia card and ability to > totally disable Intel graphics), AES-NI and VT available > 2. 1920x1080+, 15.6"+ screen with good quality > 3. 2+ SATA ports, at least one SATA3 > 4. 2+ RAM slots > 5. Fully working ACPI S3, without black magic like unloading any kernel > modules > 6. Gigabit Ethernet > Dell Precision M6600 acpi complains about SD controller coming out of resume, and doesn't work after resume(it does before). Since I don't use it, it's not an issue for me. I'm also not sure about "totally disable Intel graphics". Obviously you can just not load the driver, but that will not eliminate power consumption. I have the nvidia card for this laptop as well, but it isn't physically installed so I cannot confirm it would work, although I expect that it would. -- Adam From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Dec 15 21:31:20 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50C48A48E81 for ; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 21:31:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vsasjason@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wm0-x235.google.com (mail-wm0-x235.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::235]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E27451F87 for ; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 21:31:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vsasjason@gmail.com) Received: by mail-wm0-x235.google.com with SMTP id l126so13148489wml.1 for ; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 13:31:19 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=Br8P/2YFyHvsX4ybnalmQOR9X3zqFeckISDQ1MOuShk=; b=jTWy2evBuJFoVjrW+p8WwjyWuwWoXlEYGYbZ5LrMf7fNZiSmHHIhsuKvUyj7Apq3ZH blR20/i/G02oRz75k0lXp6cQzthGH7T5qec4kisT4gZ99bG6MuV7+a53PqHpBPF/geM2 xU1NIF8cOBxRgJBLcZ+g8qL5AMk/1JWn3PAgsOe0fIzl4NsWCWVe/JkkWG34MUeN7T46 4qvlM7u7yvL9LyhC/b5w+/l1UL2zoXOid8U1+kUoW1Br6K8cQ+kYQV1KmlRxa+ixuen8 0tAY+ymZ929RB40AKutRrCMS7uA/1sjt62y+kFdQ+zSgl1OGqnd5Nxyck5pPe5R3OE0j 63UA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.195.13.137 with SMTP id ey9mr53220663wjd.81.1450215077391; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 13:31:17 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.194.76.207 with HTTP; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 13:31:17 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.194.76.207 with HTTP; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 13:31:17 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2015 23:31:17 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Looking for fully working Intel-based laptop From: Anton Sayetsky To: Adam Vande More Cc: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2015 21:31:20 -0000 > Dell Precision M6600 Thanks, I will take a look at this model. > acpi complains about SD controller coming out of resume, and doesn't work after resume(it does before). Since I don't use it, it's not an issue for me. I don't care about SD too, so this is not a problem. > I'm also not sure about "totally disable Intel graphics". Obviously you can just not load the driver, but that will not eliminate power consumption. I have the nvidia card for this laptop as well, but it isn't physically installed so I cannot confirm it would work, although I expect that it would. I'll try to explain. Correct me if I wrong. It's about so called nVidia Optimus. AFAIK, this works by doing rendering on Intel or nVidia card, but the display output on Intel unconditionally. Latest supported Intel graphics on FreeBSD is that comes with Ivy Bridge. So if I will buy Haswell-based laptop, I won't get fully functional video subsystem even if nVidia card is present. I'm also not sure if disabling screen output through Intel is physically possible. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Dec 15 22:17:00 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A7BEA48E6B for ; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 22:17:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kraduk@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wm0-x22b.google.com (mail-wm0-x22b.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::22b]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E00981F31 for ; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 22:16:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kraduk@gmail.com) Received: by mail-wm0-x22b.google.com with SMTP id n186so115938652wmn.0 for ; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 14:16:59 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=dDHUT5QW99+M2EjUx3cRWRwzxbDyr9UDBpFS0a0dmY0=; b=hKexZAKZ7JPfPJtn5rU/e2v0cEyorcxJbto+cMNQO1qC/4YDCOjQt0kt8OFiaaQLRp u+P7BQYwxa6xP6CFcjfFHHy+anKN/pN7uY8qJWM2sjkPnmNQ/kFK/Jyn5lQy8hXUOBx7 EZ8roGvnSn3QZWlSJGfH5C68q4BbZ3EDRjMWcpRdY5OQ1RIvnvd2ToixyjBrh1PKfMYl GeaFXytGk5Zi4bDTPmKcVavRbg4f3xRQCloAz8FMSwG7sQE4bRziq1kH7s/URxJf7jvC X84WyRMsGSVMH8DlAxKAC77W5AgV+9gRPzHRnwyCeyacdLFFWl6f4yvPjA6DZLaj2tbY Ps7Q== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.194.236.228 with SMTP id ux4mr47802380wjc.56.1450217818337; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 14:16:58 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.28.181.213 with HTTP; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 14:16:57 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.28.181.213 with HTTP; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 14:16:57 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <566FE7D3.2060203@bananmonarki.se> References: <566F8C37.4080800@bananmonarki.se> <20151215082721.2357ecdd@planb.netng.org> <566FE7D3.2060203@bananmonarki.se> Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2015 22:16:57 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: problen with pw useradd? From: krad To: Bernt Hansson Cc: Vladimir Botka , FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2015 22:17:00 -0000 Check the text files aren't out of sync with the binary dbs. Is do a vipw and save On 15 Dec 2015 10:13, "Bernt Hansson" wrote: > On 2015-12-15 08:27, Vladimir Botka wrote: > >> On Tue, 15 Dec 2015 04:42:47 +0100 >> Bernt Hansson wrote: >> >>> Hello list! >>> I have a strange problem when trying to install dns/rbldnsd. Problem >>> is that there is no user rbldns ... >>> >> Hi Bernt, how does the passwd file look like? >> grep rbldns /etc/passwd >> >> There is no other user with uid 153. > > /etc/master.passwd and /etc/passwd have the same line > > rbldns:*:153:153::0:0:rbldns pseudo user:/home/rbldns:/usr/sbin/nologin > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Dec 15 22:48:22 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 044A0A48291 for ; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 22:48:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@bertram-scharpf.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [212.227.17.24]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5AAE31E58 for ; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 22:48:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@bertram-scharpf.de) Received: from becker.bs.l ([85.180.12.175]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue104) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MhDBR-1ZnInr3HPN-00MNGO for ; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 23:48:18 +0100 Received: from bsch by becker.bs.l with local (Exim 4.86 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1a8yOH-000Bso-RM for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 23:48:17 +0100 Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2015 23:48:17 +0100 From: Bertram Scharpf To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: freebsd-update editor choice Message-ID: <20151215224817.GB31657@becker.bs.l> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20151213182848.M69104@brightstar.bomgardner.net> <20151215124601.GA4020@becker.bs.l> <20151215204601.bd653269.freebsd@edvax.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20151215204601.bd653269.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.24 (2015-08-30) Sender: Bertram Scharpf X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:JqV0021am/an5DnXN11WP2/qp+AI6CtJsk5QNTg864+pC0OMZdq jIdPUBO4wyuTHBYKgm1pNlUF+3OZAwH+lcIIVjQwryIDpfurye0/VlmjjvNFspZDisF/RPD ZyolLZROea31K2N5VgYL5fgiijgPQiCxr+SBhs0x7wl8EoIq3XOwegTi5fWMJHLIHA6WZ1+ 2RTvowXcFvsRFufLjqrZg== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:qqYrG+w/6wk=:tu0KkSB4rYasnYocak6Nqu 9qrnm0AOr1mP1kb30JqroJM0LNnZ8Hvtelz/XmB4s1VnJP32JYB0H8EV4p6BEet+cAzN8s8De LXz0fAtDOcIc0RvbOtCEv/1oXZbPEnBO2y0/vAqX+y6qhq041lB1IDhZEwLOPRxaqTkGtVcBh O+udBS1Io60j/1PLEYVQYJUQJ3622Fn9aL1C6OpAditE+J5GFss5eIXp1qA/iUuPmt73Xvg/h bN8RsVKoL6JRMb70bKFMAqadl/q8ws4FUW4swJrG2x1fqz3nD4Ao/JcRrorJn51FClG9M6rNG ckZWMLKGEu3+K8GDJrXwgQH2XnPphsvbNcRo/uY6cqFZnIVFAUb5WMeekvcmMcbfzqQF24BiW Hl5ka3vvjZUEvB/5SYOYYwuT9NUXMLPlHE3HCYMpLpeIpqFRsLSY7wYbO/Xm0yN9Zx8uNBpb7 f4lV488xi6Df4NI2IssSmUueRWbmYalk6FdleUWNObr9QpRQ0ljXzox4EIrA5uw5QiejpHEy1 Pg9ViLqB1oiI6nDcaGA7JqtWnnfO2ItbFbhmxGix6RZyIEbnBGTUnbO/tYhGayoFV6KquVS14 qv8/nwEQoyewXFsu3NZtRAzIZGcIMCnFkGZvxaCbIGqmqA35aLKqi9KOQF4gcaVajsawkGSV8 QReUPsEVetaHyY3CX7Mufy3rQqmZl3akg2lq2DHDRw4VjNXnTS20xvsZB8VZnY0KWrRU= X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2015 22:48:22 -0000 Hi, On Tuesday, 15. Dec 2015, 20:46:01 +0100, Polytropon wrote: > On Tue, 15 Dec 2015 13:46:01 +0100, Bertram Scharpf wrote: > > On Sunday, 13. Dec 2015, 12:31:22 -0600, Gene wrote: > > The problem I fussed about many times and long times without > > any understanding up to this day is not how but _where_ to > > set the EDITOR environment variable. There is > > > > - /etc/login.conf > > This will set environment variables globally for all users > who login, not depending on the shell. > > Some programs change their behaviour in dependence of the > > EDITOR variable. For example if you log into a host with the > > command > > > > $ ssh otherhost -t tmux > > > > most of the above files are left unregarded and the TMux > > option 'status-keys' may be set to an undesired value. > > This depends on how login shells and interactive shells are > being configured and how they inherit environmental variables. I tested it yet another time. When I give this command: $ ssh otherhost -t tmux new-session irb and the variable EDITOR is not mentioned in "login.conf", it will be empty. Ruby's ENV[ "EDITOR"] will be nil and TMux's option "status-keys" will be "emacs". Setting "EDITOR=vi" in login.conf/default/setenv solves the problem. But nowhere else. Bertram -- Bertram Scharpf Stuttgart, Deutschland/Germany http://www.bertram-scharpf.de From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Dec 15 22:52:33 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC194A485D3 for ; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 22:52:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chrisstankevitz@gmail.com) Received: from mail-io0-x22c.google.com (mail-io0-x22c.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c06::22c]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9350C1253 for ; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 22:52:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chrisstankevitz@gmail.com) Received: by mail-io0-x22c.google.com with SMTP id 186so37103754iow.0 for ; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 14:52:33 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=wicELDmzl1/lg7Jp/bn/HlJIrLnUYIHvKr3s5lfJ/X4=; b=bBO6U8r6YnupfQT9/VY3oyAP2QLvOqUYP8XLoiJyqwzlrrvsC0BQgJBifNrt18Thtw /Nroj6m0UUAoh8Y0t7i6AFCTRtYg24PZxFEB6+S2psix0eeUqNxcWY4NO/+yHZ8OWeev e776H3ygv/cPjKsLXNk2AnfwlB/S3nRlI0dabp8sxvYIvzsDQi5N6hSIBhyZiIsePNC9 Zm8PKemizibYR60Yr0FYqUJO4C7xhN647CugKslli2NqqjAKvaDRt1ofomLvV2mJi6hW Kd8bNLy1lYv9hFDrH3cun2ru/xpsVJNOPmG4DX7PNRKSFVDAGit8SDqa4qiY87nIe3kZ bbkA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.107.16.213 with SMTP id 82mr7810261ioq.119.1450219953045; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 14:52:33 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.79.119.152 with HTTP; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 14:52:33 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2015 14:52:33 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Migrating from ports to pkg From: Chris Stankevitz To: freebsd-questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2015 22:52:33 -0000 Hello, I have been using "make" to install ports and "portsnap/portmaster" to update my system. But I'm over it now. I'm running 10.1-RELEASE and have very few ports installed. Is the migration from make/portsnap/portmaster -> pkg as simple as: pkg delete portmaster rm -rf /usr/ports pkg update pkg upgrade ? Thank you, Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Dec 15 23:07:15 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A21B6A4905B for ; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 23:07:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wm0-x22b.google.com (mail-wm0-x22b.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::22b]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 40FF91E3A for ; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 23:07:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: by mail-wm0-x22b.google.com with SMTP id n186so117279012wmn.0 for ; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 15:07:15 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=6N4aPr6siYBb8AihngO/bH79QqDp8NVSnHvM2951uY8=; b=ZBkTNzhuQBYI7Fh76ylNolbjXDd+U0LUzGBpJXFqJk+nwhmqi7nHSWXE+OFWqR1ezb 9RDHzN2Yxq1NRB7tSP52xFul/FUXVxuMDZQ2WAtk6kRB5/NG13e1ETxFg7bIC2E4Gaog OVrrfIasa3HvgufInD4MVxPrSD6fJEYqWmqPTT7euKXsMjjBw0cMFc8XyLJrtYo6FpmP d36lIbaOp/RuXYCFU2Rp9j99QXWPUUXIjAwiQo4235hnkDn2x6eCMC3NYDmpz7IoTCpY ftz5vJMBvWckSIvU1CKkOwrTE/JZvpsqm6+kh6K7Ix+/rvoGo/qFrLGmbHMoZv9gRkdI WV0Q== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.28.158.15 with SMTP id h15mr7144128wme.67.1450220833799; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 15:07:13 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.194.192.33 with HTTP; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 15:07:13 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2015 17:07:13 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Looking for fully working Intel-based laptop From: Adam Vande More To: Anton Sayetsky Cc: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2015 23:07:15 -0000 On Tue, Dec 15, 2015 at 3:31 PM, Anton Sayetsky wrote: > > Dell Precision M6600 > Thanks, I will take a look at this model. > > > acpi complains about SD controller coming out of resume, and doesn't > work after resume(it does before). Since I don't use it, it's not an issue > for me. > I don't care about SD too, so this is not a problem. > > > I'm also not sure about "totally disable Intel graphics". Obviously > you can just not load the driver, but that will not eliminate power > consumption. I have the nvidia card for this laptop as well, but it isn't > physically installed so I cannot confirm it would work, although I expect > that it would. > I'll try to explain. Correct me if I wrong. > It's about so called nVidia Optimus. AFAIK, this works by doing rendering > on Intel or nVidia card, but the display output on Intel unconditionally. > I think it switches the output between them internally when stuff like 3D is active. > Latest supported Intel graphics on FreeBSD is that comes with Ivy Bridge. > So if I will buy Haswell-based laptop, I won't get fully functional video > subsystem even if nVidia card is present. I'm also not sure if disabling > screen output through Intel is physically possible. > This laptop is a Sandy Bridge and the low end Intel-only video performance is excellent for all tasks I perform, the most demanding of such would be playback of full HD video eg streaming 1920x1080 TrueColor. I no lag, no stuttering, no distortion. I suppose it's 3D isn't so good, but I don't use it. I believe it probable Haswell support will be in 11.0, but not guaranteed. For my needs, Haswell/Broadwell doesn't provide much value over Ivy Bridge and Sandy/Ivy Bridge models are still in a sweet spot for used pricing. All in all it's a nice laptop which has allowed me to get rid of several other systems. However it is big and heavy. It does not fit in standard laptop carriers eg a laptop backpack, and it has a hypersensitive touchpad. But there aren't many laptops capable of of 32GB RAM along with all its other power. -- Adam From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Dec 15 23:47:33 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62912A488FE for ; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 23:47:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ike@michaeleichorn.com) Received: from mx1.eichornenterprises.com (mx1.eichornenterprises.com [104.236.13.122]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mx1.eichornenterprises.com", Issuer "StartCom Class 1 Primary Intermediate Server CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0C63513A5 for ; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 23:47:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ike@michaeleichorn.com) Received: from mail.eichornenterprises.com (cpe-184-59-147-149.neo.res.rr.com [184.59.147.149]) by mx1.eichornenterprises.com (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id dc2119ae; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 18:47:25 -0500 (EST) Received: by mail.eichornenterprises.com (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTPSA id 3df74adf TLS version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 18:47:25 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <1450223247.7776.13.camel@michaeleichorn.com> Subject: Re: Looking for fully working Intel-based laptop From: "Michael B. Eichorn" To: Adam Vande More , Anton Sayetsky Cc: FreeBSD Questions Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2015 18:47:27 -0500 In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.18.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2015 23:47:33 -0000 On Tue, 2015-12-15 at 17:07 -0600, Adam Vande More wrote: > On Tue, Dec 15, 2015 at 3:31 PM, Anton Sayetsky > wrote: > > > > Dell Precision M6600 > > Thanks, I will take a look at this model. > > > > > acpi complains about SD controller coming out of resume, and > > > doesn't > > work after resume(it does before).  Since I don't use it, it's not > > an issue > > for me. > > I don't care about SD too, so this is not a problem. > > > > > I'm also not sure about "totally disable Intel > > > graphics".   Obviously > > you can just not load the driver, but that will not eliminate power > > consumption.  I have the nvidia card for this laptop as well, but > > it isn't > > physically installed so I cannot confirm it would work, although I > > expect > > that it would. > > I'll try to explain. Correct me if I wrong. > > It's about so called nVidia Optimus. AFAIK, this works by doing > > rendering > > on Intel or nVidia card, but the display output on Intel > > unconditionally. > > > I think it switches the output between them internally when stuff > like 3D > is active. > > > Latest supported Intel graphics on FreeBSD is that comes with Ivy > > Bridge. > > So if I will buy Haswell-based laptop, I won't get fully functional > > video > > subsystem even if nVidia card is present. I'm also not sure if > > disabling > > screen output through Intel is physically possible. > > > This laptop is a Sandy Bridge and the low end Intel-only video > performance > is excellent for all tasks I perform, the most demanding of such > would be > playback of full HD video eg streaming 1920x1080 TrueColor.  I no > lag, no > stuttering, no distortion.  I suppose it's 3D isn't so good, but I > don't > use it. > > I believe it probable Haswell support will be in 11.0, but not > guaranteed. > For my needs, Haswell/Broadwell doesn't provide much value over Ivy > Bridge > and Sandy/Ivy Bridge models are still in a sweet spot for used > pricing. I would quibble with this, the Iris Pro Graphics are a significant step up from the HD Graphics line. It means I have to use Linux (for now), but it is a rather nice GPU. > > All in all it's a nice laptop which has allowed me to get rid of > several > other systems.  However it is big and heavy.  It does not fit in > standard > laptop carriers eg a laptop backpack, and it has a hypersensitive > touchpad.  But there aren't many laptops capable of of 32GB RAM along > with > all its other power. > > > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Dec 15 23:48:40 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C47AA48A3D for ; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 23:48:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ike@michaeleichorn.com) Received: from mx1.eichornenterprises.com (mx1.eichornenterprises.com [104.236.13.122]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mx1.eichornenterprises.com", Issuer "StartCom Class 1 Primary Intermediate Server CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 29CD714DA for ; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 23:48:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ike@michaeleichorn.com) Received: from mail.eichornenterprises.com (cpe-184-59-147-149.neo.res.rr.com [184.59.147.149]) by mx1.eichornenterprises.com (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id 8bdb480b; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 18:48:36 -0500 (EST) Received: by mail.eichornenterprises.com (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTPSA id c5133900 TLS version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 18:48:35 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <1450223318.7776.15.camel@michaeleichorn.com> Subject: Re: Looking for fully working Intel-based laptop From: "Michael B. Eichorn" To: Adam Vande More , Anton Sayetsky Cc: FreeBSD Questions Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2015 18:48:38 -0500 In-Reply-To: <1450223247.7776.13.camel@michaeleichorn.com> References: <1450223247.7776.13.camel@michaeleichorn.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.18.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2015 23:48:40 -0000 On Tue, 2015-12-15 at 18:47 -0500, Michael B. Eichorn wrote: > On Tue, 2015-12-15 at 17:07 -0600, Adam Vande More wrote: > > On Tue, Dec 15, 2015 at 3:31 PM, Anton Sayetsky > m> > > wrote: > > > > > > Dell Precision M6600 > > > Thanks, I will take a look at this model. > > > > > > > acpi complains about SD controller coming out of resume, and > > > > doesn't > > > work after resume(it does before).  Since I don't use it, it's > > > not > > > an issue > > > for me. > > > I don't care about SD too, so this is not a problem. > > > > > > > I'm also not sure about "totally disable Intel > > > > graphics".   Obviously > > > you can just not load the driver, but that will not eliminate > > > power > > > consumption.  I have the nvidia card for this laptop as well, but > > > it isn't > > > physically installed so I cannot confirm it would work, although > > > I > > > expect > > > that it would. > > > I'll try to explain. Correct me if I wrong. > > > It's about so called nVidia Optimus. AFAIK, this works by doing > > > rendering > > > on Intel or nVidia card, but the display output on Intel > > > unconditionally. > > > > > I think it switches the output between them internally when stuff > > like 3D > > is active. > > > > > Latest supported Intel graphics on FreeBSD is that comes with Ivy > > > Bridge. > > > So if I will buy Haswell-based laptop, I won't get fully > > > functional > > > video > > > subsystem even if nVidia card is present. I'm also not sure if > > > disabling > > > screen output through Intel is physically possible. > > > > > This laptop is a Sandy Bridge and the low end Intel-only video > > performance > > is excellent for all tasks I perform, the most demanding of such > > would be > > playback of full HD video eg streaming 1920x1080 TrueColor.  I no > > lag, no > > stuttering, no distortion.  I suppose it's 3D isn't so good, but I > > don't > > use it. > > > > I believe it probable Haswell support will be in 11.0, but not > > guaranteed. > > For my needs, Haswell/Broadwell doesn't provide much value over Ivy > > Bridge > > and Sandy/Ivy Bridge models are still in a sweet spot for used > > pricing. > > I would quibble with this, the Iris Pro Graphics are a significant > step > up from the HD Graphics line. It means I have to use Linux (for now), > but it is a rather nice GPU. Doh. You said _my_ needs ignore me I am a bit slow today. > > > > > All in all it's a nice laptop which has allowed me to get rid of > > several > > other systems.  However it is big and heavy.  It does not fit in > > standard > > laptop carriers eg a laptop backpack, and it has a hypersensitive > > touchpad.  But there aren't many laptops capable of of 32GB RAM > > along > > with > > all its other power. > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freeb > sd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Dec 16 01:02:04 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96C6EA48982 for ; Wed, 16 Dec 2015 01:02:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from baho-utot@columbus.rr.com) Received: from cdptpa-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (cdptpa-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.166.231]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 620A2129C for ; Wed, 16 Dec 2015 01:02:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from baho-utot@columbus.rr.com) Received: from [75.187.32.8] ([75.187.32.8:45991] helo=raspberrypi.bildanet.com) by cdptpa-oedge01 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTP id 09/98-19951-8C7B0765; Wed, 16 Dec 2015 01:00:57 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.40] (helo=baho-utot.bildanet.com) by raspberrypi.bildanet.com with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1a90Se-0003xW-Hc for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 20:00:56 -0500 Subject: Re: Migrating from ports to pkg To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: From: Baho Utot Message-ID: <5670B7C8.5000603@columbus.rr.com> Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2015 20:00:56 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-RR-Connecting-IP: 107.14.168.118:25 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2015 01:02:04 -0000 On 12/15/15 17:52, Chris Stankevitz wrote: > Hello, > > I have been using "make" to install ports and "portsnap/portmaster" to > update my system. But I'm over it now. > > I'm running 10.1-RELEASE and have very few ports installed. > > Is the migration from make/portsnap/portmaster -> pkg as simple as: > > pkg delete portmaster > rm -rf /usr/ports > pkg update > pkg upgrade pkg upgrade -f This will "reinstall and upgrade all packages on the system. Been there done that > > ? > > Thank you, > > Chris > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Dec 16 03:37:18 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F1B8A4970F for ; Wed, 16 Dec 2015 03:37:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sergeig.public@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vk0-x22d.google.com (mail-vk0-x22d.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400c:c05::22d]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1E75B161D for ; Wed, 16 Dec 2015 03:37:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sergeig.public@gmail.com) Received: by mail-vk0-x22d.google.com with SMTP id a188so18954047vkc.0 for ; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 19:37:18 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=j4Dic+o8ldl+BE+CU/aVdvogF27tfbZPn2zWh98o/sw=; b=u3Pqs8u+NiZcnrxorUQDD2IJ1ugay0HVM0/w9Dv65Numc7CUEGwBFZtcBHEclWc1yy 1TG4TqRd1lNcXW2CL6nY39Tw655oT78ni3sKSer96XwG412pbTNRvra0WLW8IEpMi7/q bVReyNB91Bw2YfENhDLM0s2nAMAlgarW0Iks0fN3V8FTYkDcfxgyN/+uIR9qmtXnWKeB NAkoXZXpcifNalENPBKcNSzGlSEVz4mtP7T75DUgBI8969HB/InUUDNQchao+K6jYdRW qux9lxCLRtzgU9pPp8Z/l4NqRDN1sa6kEBHn+ObRRkUwQZqZ8hd9qY3qP0OuxZfaur0n hI0g== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.31.2.82 with SMTP id 79mr13112312vkc.22.1450237036712; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 19:37:16 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.31.174.213 with HTTP; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 19:37:16 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2015 19:37:16 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: which label to use in mount? From: Sergei G To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2015 03:37:18 -0000 I have executed the following commands: # gpart create -s GPT ada1 # gpart add -t freebsd-ufs -l sback -s 50G ada1 # newfs -nL back /dev/ada1p1 so, now I can mount it as either: # mount /dev/gpt/sback /mnt or # mount /dev/ufs/back /mnt Both seem to work. However, command df -H reports slightly different numbers: /dev/ufs/back 52G 4.1k 48G 0% /mnt dev/gpt/dback 48G 4.0K 45G 0% /mnt Which way is the correct way to mount? Thanks From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Dec 16 13:12:35 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89D7BA485A0 for ; Wed, 16 Dec 2015 13:12:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 50420199F for ; Wed, 16 Dec 2015 13:12:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1a99jd-00047t-Gb for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 16 Dec 2015 11:55:09 +0100 Received: from c-b410e655.030-194-6d6c6d4.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se ([85.230.16.180]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 16 Dec 2015 11:55:05 +0100 Received: from quite by c-b410e655.030-194-6d6c6d4.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 16 Dec 2015 11:55:05 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Daniel Subject: Setting prefered ipv6 source address Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2015 10:53:17 +0000 (UTC) Lines: 18 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: sea.gmane.org User-Agent: Loom/3.14 (http://gmane.org/) X-Loom-IP: 85.230.16.180 (Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/47.0.2526.80 Safari/537.36) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2015 13:12:35 -0000 Hello, I'm using a gif0 tunnel for my ipv6 connectivity (he). The setup in rc.conf works fine, with an additional aliased IP. I would like this IP (which I control the reverse dns for!) to be preferred as source addr, which I am able to do with: ifconfig gif0 inet6 $ipv6tunnelendpoint deprecated (This is apparently undocumented, and I found out how to do it by knowing about preferred_lft of iproute2 on Linux. s/deprecated/pltime 0/ also works). But how can I nicely squeeze this line into rc.conf, along with the tunnel setup? 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Best Regards=2C =20 Tito Parts. = From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Dec 16 13:18:48 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7177BA491DF for ; Wed, 16 Dec 2015 13:18:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from patrickhess@gmx.net) Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.17.22]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mout.gmx.net", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C4F5564572 for ; Wed, 16 Dec 2015 13:18:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from patrickhess@gmx.net) Received: from desk8.phess.net ([95.88.166.205]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx101) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MMXVC-1a8fLG3jEU-008GTa for ; Wed, 16 Dec 2015 14:18:44 +0100 From: Patrick Hess To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Updating a program Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2015 14:18:43 +0100 Message-ID: <3724175.N7ZSDP0Y2t@desk8.phess.net> User-Agent: KMail/4.14.3 (FreeBSD/10.1-RELEASE-p24; KDE/4.14.3; i386; ; ) In-Reply-To: <20151214124743.8acdaa664ccc92a636b8aca9@sohara.org> References: <20151214124743.8acdaa664ccc92a636b8aca9@sohara.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:2u8WSRVMFnRVUyOnv4YYMEIqsuzzeXY5H+t7BXGKW9V6hRlVqOZ QLmmgC8MHnXl32ErOaQrK/wupUKqAg/j9GfTIKFtFRxwkik4K7l7J7jXv5wHZRttIWZkYAz I9ISCAsbwKeL3mD1SPvIKOhxf6FIk4qUBeVPJp3Dfvwq7+rlAHVhuE62sbJuo0S+eEgz4wC 0bQCvd9634oCA/P6I7+EQ== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:2dteKwK33Is=:FZRInHQjQuq5VUhNtFPrvy oAgyh6Q/FCxPlmONtSK+p8txQU/7gbM+z1x0zLa1Wy+RTdQYdC2VeeK7wz9UgVFUTJ8EUB5io WIucmWvv+iwcsFhbBxYLcp6zRCY0RSdXv7kXczYfAoZgZnadahaYhACxXE9/74APXW4nk32Bz ndbvXuC3sOJuS7G1fnQpRRTa5PtqUfqvmcNlrGwk2KnkqZFZvD5ULbqAFXS+mgw9gSf2ioiyK H47guPqSDaiI9iuvAwNSWWMwoxiWo7/c9A9YRwE17LhivWRybmW3Zl8xjG7YztB6GTtWZZq+j 6XLEWBa+8LLRJf5OxSoISTCk3ifun0OF2YSd0REvA2Pdbh+N/mesE7K4fT/DQvnZnuT0H56fS Cq2OU0FTMU0NyOepiuYtmy8FHSg+yDQWycVwvKE7jJMwlVkg9o3SeseA+gR7ueShGSxv13GvS el2IsDGKWkZE40O0WI8q8jLdd6Zjn/gnCJNA1wF2yQNyQzwnXmRP4xWv2aq7FvnxvLLJr7YMu nJzcsuOegapCIgarW7elKJDpXlYpGjdd+XxtRXMjTSd5GdmYK7hvlgS1amjGpgDXGVmU4Qu9m IKtQG0J7wefBf72jc+5CO60A6nGT5QWx8C2xxIXhn6OYRs1OB9pPAk41yHWeHGqpxlYYRECh9 UuE7Q7pVzoS3atv/8uC2T+G8O72ZsBjW8XkL6L+5d31F1+a9ZttRhUSD4QmmzmGZ+aDTW+bx6 x9PzgGItPcUyayejtZNAd9trZhX/QNQ7nyJXAOqE6STojSSBtcuXIjA3Q7Wg2b8l8Xx4aUcvM lbMx3vn X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2015 13:18:48 -0000 Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: > pkg update is the command you want. Or, more likely, pkg upgrade. Patrick From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Dec 16 13:19:54 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75F8BA49353 for ; Wed, 16 Dec 2015 13:19:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Received: from feeder.usenet4all.se (1-1-1-38a.far.sth.bostream.se [82.182.32.53]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 926B964AD1 for ; Wed, 16 Dec 2015 13:19:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Received: from testbox.news4all.se (testbox.usenet4all.se [10.0.0.3]) by feeder.usenet4all.se (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id tBG7Rx8p043067; Wed, 16 Dec 2015 08:27:59 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Subject: Re: problen with pw useradd? To: kpneal@pobox.com, krad References: <566F8C37.4080800@bananmonarki.se> <20151215082721.2357ecdd@planb.netng.org> <566FE7D3.2060203@bananmonarki.se> <20151216025825.GA92798@neutralgood.org> Cc: Vladimir Botka , FreeBSD Questions From: Bernt Hansson Message-ID: <5671127F.5060502@bananmonarki.se> Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2015 08:27:59 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20151216025825.GA92798@neutralgood.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2015 13:19:54 -0000 On 2015-12-16 03:58, kpneal@pobox.com wrote: > On Tue, Dec 15, 2015 at 10:16:57PM +0000, krad wrote: >> Check the text files aren't out of sync with the binary dbs. Is do a vipw >> and save > Or you can use pwd_mkdb to be _sure_ you got it. From the man page: > > EXAMPLES > Regenerate the password database after manually editing or replacing the > password file: > > /usr/sbin/pwd_mkdb -p /etc/master.passwd Thank you! That did the trick. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Dec 16 13:22:45 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D8B2A49EA1 for ; Wed, 16 Dec 2015 13:22:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vsasjason@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wm0-x22c.google.com (mail-wm0-x22c.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::22c]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0238164E46 for ; Wed, 16 Dec 2015 13:22:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vsasjason@gmail.com) Received: by mail-wm0-x22c.google.com with SMTP id l126so38211016wml.0 for ; Wed, 16 Dec 2015 05:22:44 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=1RhonKYC8iwzAN3pNz+XdigDIEaFeoXda/LFrawSDYE=; b=PDp+wcPQbGEpSI86HmJc+FlVGX6+JjAkCXMkZP4M7zfWbheLExZ2kaMCZh7ccR2AVP 5vZR432DRCY7iHTW2lNcZXCUlobrYLxw4C7qv061lljFOn8lcugIpFaHxj65rY76Verk j3AIg+oaMLnVG25WfZXz4nOnv2QJBdr+YgZ8pQ4MUz+a76bz5uczStOry73l//KR+KfO t/dEq0xvvDefxgfnX6wmbGgVkMD3z3/pf7m1ZXDp0tF1DsvVCjIjylxgF6rZH14xAzoH hRv38gGVgTL0Y3qA8voKccF1gaJahiC85hGSoRUvwAJ3DgNxTuAjfQJU7F95jq2RBDKE uKyA== X-Received: by 10.28.32.22 with SMTP id g22mr10441067wmg.43.1450262918972; Wed, 16 Dec 2015 02:48:38 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.194.76.207 with HTTP; Wed, 16 Dec 2015 02:48:19 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: From: Anton Sayetsky Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2015 13:48:19 +0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Looking for fully working Intel-based laptop To: Adam Vande More Cc: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2015 13:22:45 -0000 16 =D0=B4=D0=B5=D0=BA. 2015 =D0=B3. 1:07 =D0=BF=D0=BE=D0=BB=D1=8C=D0=B7=D0= =BE=D0=B2=D0=B0=D1=82=D0=B5=D0=BB=D1=8C "Adam Vande More" =D0=BD=D0=B0=D0=BF=D0=B8=D1=81=D0=B0=D0=BB: > > On Tue, Dec 15, 2015 at 3:31 PM, Anton Sayetsky wrote: >> >> > Dell Precision M6600 >> Thanks, I will take a look at this model. >> >> > acpi complains about SD controller coming out of resume, and doesn't work after resume(it does before). Since I don't use it, it's not an issue for me. >> I don't care about SD too, so this is not a problem. >> >> > I'm also not sure about "totally disable Intel graphics". Obviously you can just not load the driver, but that will not eliminate power consumption. I have the nvidia card for this laptop as well, but it isn't physically installed so I cannot confirm it would work, although I expect that it would. >> I'll try to explain. Correct me if I wrong. >> It's about so called nVidia Optimus. AFAIK, this works by doing rendering on Intel or nVidia card, but the display output on Intel unconditionally. > > I think it switches the output between them internally when stuff like 3D is active. Wiki says no - output is never switches: >When a user launches an application, the graphics driver tries to determine whether the application would benefit from the discrete GPU. If so, the GPU is powered up from an idle state and is passed all rendering calls. Even in this case, though, the integrated graphics processor (IGP) is used to output the final image. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nvidia_Optimus So one can think "unfortunately, my Hasswell/Skylake IGP isn't supported yet, so I will use nVidia with binary driver". Then he tries and has no success because still required to load driver for IGP even if not uses it directly. >> Latest supported Intel graphics on FreeBSD is that comes with Ivy Bridge. So if I will buy Haswell-based laptop, I won't get fully functional video subsystem even if nVidia card is present. I'm also not sure if disabling screen output through Intel is physically possible. > > This laptop is a Sandy Bridge and the low end Intel-only video performance is excellent for all tasks I perform, the most demanding of such would be playback of full HD video eg streaming 1920x1080 TrueColor. I no lag, no stuttering, no distortion. I suppose it's 3D isn't so good, but I don't use it. > > I believe it probable Haswell support will be in 11.0, but not guaranteed. For my needs, Haswell/Broadwell doesn't provide much value over Ivy Bridge and Sandy/Ivy Bridge models are still in a sweet spot for used pricing. > > All in all it's a nice laptop which has allowed me to get rid of several other systems. However it is big and heavy. It does not fit in standard laptop carriers eg a laptop backpack, and it has a hypersensitive touchpad. But there aren't many laptops capable of of 32GB RAM along with all its other power. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Dec 16 13:36:23 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 980D1A499CB for ; Wed, 16 Dec 2015 13:36:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@sohara.org) Received: from uk1mail2513.mymailbank.co.uk (UK1MAIL2513-PERMANET.IE.mymailbank.co.uk [217.69.47.44]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F283119F3 for ; Wed, 16 Dec 2015 13:36:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@sohara.org) Received: from smtp.lan.sohara.org (UnknownHost [88.151.27.41]) by uk1mail2513-d.mymailbank.co.uk with SMTP; Wed, 16 Dec 2015 13:35:47 +0000 Received: from [192.168.63.1] (helo=steve.lan.sohara.org) by smtp.lan.sohara.org with smtp (Exim 4.85 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1a9CFF-0003K9-U5; Wed, 16 Dec 2015 13:35:54 +0000 Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2015 13:35:51 +0000 From: Steve O'Hara-Smith To: Patrick Hess Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Updating a program Message-Id: <20151216133551.73b68c21450993a31982aa78@sohara.org> In-Reply-To: <3724175.N7ZSDP0Y2t@desk8.phess.net> References: <20151214124743.8acdaa664ccc92a636b8aca9@sohara.org> <3724175.N7ZSDP0Y2t@desk8.phess.net> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.4.3 (GTK+ 2.24.28; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.1) X-Clacks-Overhead: "GNU Terry Pratchett" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2015 13:36:23 -0000 On Wed, 16 Dec 2015 14:18:43 +0100 Patrick Hess wrote: > Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: > > pkg update is the command you want. > > Or, more likely, pkg upgrade. Doh! Thank you. -- Steve O'Hara-Smith From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Dec 16 14:04:32 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 196A5A43D7A for ; Wed, 16 Dec 2015 14:04:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3cd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk", Issuer "infracaninophile.co.uk" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9C51610A9 for ; Wed, 16 Dec 2015 14:04:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from liminal.local (liminal.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3636:3bff:fed4:b0d6]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id tBG8NLnx076271 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 16 Dec 2015 08:23:21 GMT (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk; dmarc=none header.from=FreeBSD.org DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.10.3 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk tBG8NLnx076271 Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk/tBG8NLnx076271; dkim=none; dkim-atps=neutral X-Authentication-Warning: lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk: Host liminal.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3636:3bff:fed4:b0d6] claimed to be liminal.local Subject: Re: Migrating from ports to pkg To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <5670B7C8.5000603@columbus.rr.com> From: Matthew Seaman X-Enigmail-Draft-Status: N1110 Message-ID: <56711F73.1020606@FreeBSD.org> Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2015 08:23:15 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.11; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <5670B7C8.5000603@columbus.rr.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="oCQW2JDUKQRhHnnAmfftcJOgGPSqJSfmD" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.98.7 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.7 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2015 14:04:32 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --oCQW2JDUKQRhHnnAmfftcJOgGPSqJSfmD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 16/12/2015 01:00, Baho Utot wrote: >> I have been using "make" to install ports and "portsnap/portmaster" to= >> update my system. But I'm over it now. >> >> I'm running 10.1-RELEASE and have very few ports installed. >> >> Is the migration from make/portsnap/portmaster -> pkg as simple as: >> >> pkg delete portmaster >> rm -rf /usr/ports >> pkg update You don't need to run 'pkg update' as a separate step: it happens automatically as part of 'pkg upgrade' >> pkg upgrade >=20 > pkg upgrade -f >=20 > This will "reinstall and upgrade all packages on the system. Again, forcing all your packages to upgrade is not actually necessary -- you only really have to do that for major OS version upgrades. It can be useful though if you do it lie so: * Make a list of the ports you specifically want installed, omitting the packages that are only installed to fulfil dependencies. * Delete all installed ports -- ie. clean out /usr/local except for any important configuration bits under /usr/local/etc. * Install only the ports you wanted from the list, which will pull in all necessary dependencies automatically. What this does is get the 'automatic' flags set correctly on those packages that are only installed as dependencies. That way, in future as you add or delete ports or as the dependencies of ports change over time, you can use 'pkg autoremove' to delete stuff you have installed but no longer need. Again, this is an optional step -- your system will work fine either way. You've probably got a number of ports installed solely to provide build dependencies -- things like gmake or alternate versions of compilers. The above will fix that, but if you don't decide to follow that procedure, you might want to delete some of the things just used for port building. Having that stuff installed won't hurt you, but it's all additional maintenance which you can avoid by simply deleting those packages. What you will /have/ to do is look at any non-standard options settings you've been using with portmaster. You'll need to decide if you can live without the changes resulting from altered options or not. If you can't then you'll need to work out some alternate method of building packages with the options you want. I'm a big fan of poudriere for that, but there are other methods. Cheers, Matthew --oCQW2JDUKQRhHnnAmfftcJOgGPSqJSfmD Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2 iQJ8BAEBCgBmBQJWcR95XxSAAAAAAC4AKGlzc3Vlci1mcHJAbm90YXRpb25zLm9w ZW5wZ3AuZmlmdGhob3JzZW1hbi5uZXQ2NTNBNjhCOTEzQTRFNkNGM0UxRTEzMjZC QjIzQUY1MThFMUE0MDEzAAoJELsjr1GOGkAT7lsP/RPCabem6YdqbuUsJGtRJxZO dfshnM7zxdY8e8kij5XlLcNQTMurwaLnP6RhpavA2Qs0LeGz8JF5QXrN9xa5VoOc M0n4ErB1Nx6bzyXKlmUcqHbQVHPOGdUKKcZdZnJCGwGRXPLDiIDNxE5s0VParQjY T4yOQfSVSDGoi25xFEVPlh2NWnw4NwFTIxE9Hv3yuVDY0HLDYf+Wa+/k468WnuTV OWzkq2otCVado0D6+hN/2QRjuOHlYyBIzlnJpKIhfzId7Gze8xinwjrBLQZYqA29 x4b9EVkuKJXqyMzIyOiZpFxxm/dJoVwiatBFgN0RGTBZmsuHTnKG4rnQCnWGnVxd s70DRnG2NIRQxpPBqajNRRPZu3qHxySgA7sbh9+X/8sFiHGhErKKInM7ObF1PKu5 0jSVzKMKj694DJFconVKC85E/NsxeS7WmNH41KZv08QEUkjEg+KYVdXoYNrxq5rl C2D3Ja2WgN6+AJ6aAGzJ8a0QCONCJpk3kFdGtAg6LHtbAD+pypDaAGcs7HaxFgVt Pj0pmlXWUO57miyi27MzD4rNb2hxu67/BMJkNmi0n8JHpgbkr7yjtkX1puoAw7Jm tz9USvmJ2qgbLmH/LpVYXdtKFDmd+e45HB6l9Jgc7kBsOedy47lRUoFbr5Ih1iBL MUqcHjJqf+CpvPlVlsjt =i2yg -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --oCQW2JDUKQRhHnnAmfftcJOgGPSqJSfmD-- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Dec 16 14:10:11 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 974BDA4823B for ; Wed, 16 Dec 2015 14:10:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erichsfreebsdlist@alogt.com) Received: from alogt.com (alogt.com [69.36.191.58]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7B7F71774 for ; Wed, 16 Dec 2015 14:10:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erichsfreebsdlist@alogt.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=alogt.com; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:References: In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Subject:Cc:To:From:Date; bh=r14ul7EWLK1nFBs8sqbNuuZZ1KqQKW3YOVLY0pgVag4=; b=dQCtCIRT6Rsv5VKOivapv+YF6Q ZDWkQrb/TTwIGhDim3TNiWHXaU0ShCc9XnfBWAz1MXlw2VRwqt2UhfgIFqfBorgISQaSIlRjUP1Nk 2g4eEVk8Iq7yswgd0QKmoIb4PCsG1pU656cRqZSOaOnuawu22n2wIiz+8LErqgXTzaCI=; Received: from [114.121.161.253] (port=47283 helo=X220.alogt.com) by sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.86) (envelope-from ) id 1a94t0-000TpY-E9; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 22:44:27 -0700 Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2015 13:44:18 +0800 From: Erich Dollansky To: Sergei G Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: which label to use in mount? Message-ID: <20151216134418.696fa994@X220.alogt.com> In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - alogt.com X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net: authenticated_id: erichsfreebsdlist@alogt.com X-Authenticated-Sender: sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net: erichsfreebsdlist@alogt.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2015 14:10:11 -0000 Hi, On Tue, 15 Dec 2015 19:37:16 -0800 Sergei G wrote: > I have executed the following commands: > > # gpart create -s GPT ada1 > # gpart add -t freebsd-ufs -l sback -s 50G ada1 > # newfs -nL back /dev/ada1p1 > you allow the destruction of the GPT label by this. newfs /dev/label/sback should be the better option. > so, now I can mount it as either: > > # mount /dev/gpt/sback /mnt > or > # mount /dev/ufs/back /mnt This will work only until the disk became filled. > > Both seem to work. However, command > > df -H > > reports slightly different numbers: > > /dev/ufs/back 52G 4.1k 48G > 0% /mnt dev/gpt/dback 48G 4.0K > 45G 0% /mnt > > Which way is the correct way to mount? > Use only tyhe GPT label, but also for formatting. Erich From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Dec 16 14:20:05 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D38BEA4405B for ; Wed, 16 Dec 2015 14:20:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from idefix@fechner.net) Received: from anny.lostinspace.de (anny.lostinspace.de [IPv6:2a01:138:a006::2]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 98DFF1C2A for ; Wed, 16 Dec 2015 14:20:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from idefix@fechner.net) Received: from server.idefix.lan (aftr-88-217-181-54.dynamic.mnet-online.de [88.217.181.54]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: idefix@fechner.net) by anny.lostinspace.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id BB573101DA8 for ; Wed, 16 Dec 2015 15:20:01 +0100 (CET) DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.3.1 anny.lostinspace.de BB573101DA8 Authentication-Results: anny.lostinspace.de; dmarc=none header.from=fechner.net DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=fechner.net; s=default; t=1450275601; bh=CO7x9C2AQEkN2UOEuBgyZWbmVl4Szs5knQIePuWVRNI=; h=Subject:To:References:From:Date:In-Reply-To; b=e0dnicW6rXhywnkpy/NshPcGLxBw2IMFSksZQYbFCIQI0v6i0hNMwiplUhqqqF/00 kxbIlfWqGdpRNStxlTrUYOB6yXrrRD/+vsLYx6PPONj4iNTc64COYLxXyYYnCI775q XMB4j0pRXh6vyu1Mn8+1w3rn9Us+jsAfxd7Y/XjI= Received: from [192.168.0.151] (aftr-88-217-181-54.dynamic.mnet-online.de [88.217.181.54]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by server.idefix.lan (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 1452C4FE93 for ; Wed, 16 Dec 2015 15:20:00 +0100 (CET) Subject: Re: Migrating from ports to pkg To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: From: Matthias Fechner Message-ID: <5671730F.7040001@fechner.net> Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2015 15:19:59 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2015 14:20:05 -0000 Am 15.12.2015 um 23:52 schrieb Chris Stankevitz: > pkg delete portmaster > rm -rf /usr/ports > pkg update > pkg upgrade maybe you would like to execute as last command: pkg autoremove to get rid of all build dependencies. Gru Matthias -- "Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the universe is winning." -- Rich Cook From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Dec 16 14:27:31 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D105FA448FE for ; Wed, 16 Dec 2015 14:27:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vsasjason@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wm0-x235.google.com (mail-wm0-x235.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::235]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6E78A139A for ; Wed, 16 Dec 2015 14:27:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vsasjason@gmail.com) Received: by mail-wm0-x235.google.com with SMTP id p187so3623766wmp.1 for ; Wed, 16 Dec 2015 06:27:31 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=l71TkMdZyCA6n3zw6zJu62Knz5dLbZuQtfqZcEcc/yo=; b=wmN4knjH0keaeJuXlTODzIaM76gGa7oadSoYre6wRJjN/xZWTQYHVUlhLD9IMcZYYQ qaH64ltAxATsABzVpViT3sF8hooFQaQ4XcWaX1KmU481XdKthmmb31ejHolE/uYGscbb 5yNUEQKcy6hXZxbYsiwe2HOSXgQkj3XpZHfEjXenTo6UUz1zkl3dVpfk+i0SjJRnktKw CvskglPSshbqHHSMpB4ze8N9aTZQY0TTYfA3Lu3++4EOZcOtNHKxWQK3/aN7v/aWis7J 3g2MVEqDrDluT3zVOlkQ3yyUXa0aJ3utocRk5S2z15D523r774KPaF0efAlIXF7CC/5B J+7A== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.28.85.129 with SMTP id j123mr12921127wmb.77.1450276049962; Wed, 16 Dec 2015 06:27:29 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.194.76.207 with HTTP; Wed, 16 Dec 2015 06:27:29 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.194.76.207 with HTTP; Wed, 16 Dec 2015 06:27:29 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20151216134418.696fa994@X220.alogt.com> References: <20151216134418.696fa994@X220.alogt.com> Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2015 17:27:29 +0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: which label to use in mount? From: Anton Sayetsky To: Erich Dollansky Cc: FreeBSD Questions , Sergei G Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2015 14:27:31 -0000 16 =D0=B4=D0=B5=D0=BA. 2015 =D0=B3. 16:10 =D0=BF=D0=BE=D0=BB=D1=8C=D0=B7=D0= =BE=D0=B2=D0=B0=D1=82=D0=B5=D0=BB=D1=8C "Erich Dollansky" < erichsfreebsdlist@alogt.com> =D0=BD=D0=B0=D0=BF=D0=B8=D1=81=D0=B0=D0=BB: > > Hi, > > On Tue, 15 Dec 2015 19:37:16 -0800 > Sergei G wrote: > > > I have executed the following commands: > > > > # gpart create -s GPT ada1 > > # gpart add -t freebsd-ufs -l sback -s 50G ada1 > > # newfs -nL back /dev/ada1p1 > > > you allow the destruction of the GPT label by this. You're wrong. GPT label is stored in, obviously, GPT itself, and UFS label is stored in partition last sector. This labels are totally independent, and one can use them both at the same time, but it just doesn't make sense. > newfs /dev/label/sback > > should be the better option. > > > so, now I can mount it as either: > > > > # mount /dev/gpt/sback /mnt > > or > > # mount /dev/ufs/back /mnt > > This will work only until the disk became filled. > > > > Both seem to work. However, command > > > > df -H > > > > reports slightly different numbers: > > > > /dev/ufs/back 52G 4.1k 48G > > 0% /mnt dev/gpt/dback 48G 4.0K > > 45G 0% /mnt > > > > Which way is the correct way to mount? > > > Use only tyhe GPT label, but also for formatting. > > Erich > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Dec 16 14:37:38 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4354A479AD for ; Wed, 16 Dec 2015 14:37:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd@brightstar.bomgardner.net) Received: from brightstar.bomgardner.net (brightstar.bomgardner.net [63.229.207.48]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0D341B2C for ; Wed, 16 Dec 2015 14:37:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd@brightstar.bomgardner.net) Received: from brightstar.bomgardner.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by brightstar.bomgardner.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92C0C318; Wed, 16 Dec 2015 08:37:41 -0600 (CST) From: "Gene" To: krad Cc: Freebsd Questions Subject: Re: freebsd-update, ZFS, and ver 8.2 Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2015 08:37:40 -0600 Message-Id: <20151216143015.M83316@brightstar.bomgardner.net> In-Reply-To: References: <20151214194012.M53329@brightstar.bomgardner.net> X-Mailer: OpenWebMail 2.53 X-OriginatingIP: 192.168.0.17 (fbsd) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2015 14:37:39 -0000 On Tue, 15 Dec 2015 08:10:40 +0000, krad wrote > > I would use boot environments if you are zfs root so you can fail back easily. I would also use a src build as that will definitely work.>> eg>> beadmn create -e old_root new_root> beadmn mount new_root /mnt> export DESTDIR=/mnt> cd /usr/src> make -j 12 buildworld &&> make -j 12 buildkernel &&> make installworld && > make installkernel &&> mergemaster &&> beadmn umount new_root &&> beadmn activate new_root >> later on init 6Thanks - I get the idea of boot environments, however, the beadm package appears to be non-existant before 9.0 and this is an 8.2 system.I wonder if the 9.0 .tbz might work here? Also - I'm not sure what 'init 6' is.Thanks again. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Dec 16 14:39:54 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F615A47F43 for ; Wed, 16 Dec 2015 14:39:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wm0-x236.google.com (mail-wm0-x236.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::236]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1EBC81C7F for ; Wed, 16 Dec 2015 14:39:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: by mail-wm0-x236.google.com with SMTP id l126so42424521wml.1 for ; Wed, 16 Dec 2015 06:39:54 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=cCx+MGie6BY6/3q6LUdTWrE21h4Yg0Zttzo6dMf3G+Q=; b=DqEi6Z+8nFLz+FROI+VBoldH3dLkvlHF3tZ6BjalVnay8+BizyREPlfc7iTaGqBmF4 sWyQssMp32Cfy0gDMjgd4pVBVcKDodbNUzVLP7Krv5MpjjC4D9SzPKZkXb5uFgYgbTpD Waxzug8bdOH1UY5y76cG79UnSKUg0Y85FWRcaAQ4m8lVhcGPQK6buRcy5IFlxFM4YwE0 tdQ22vNuJsD7a2mRFZCcP2iHco9/sza2im6dN+qheqO1Ba8/onCfQgp84uFYSpuoj29o kCTeP/vnMKBoKl6SMMWkILGir/d4/pA1iU5YhDOPJ+OaI7Yqnt0Dz1b3RhFCPj841Rhe Kcfw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.28.15.132 with SMTP id 126mr6683431wmp.80.1450276792658; Wed, 16 Dec 2015 06:39:52 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.194.192.33 with HTTP; Wed, 16 Dec 2015 06:39:52 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2015 08:39:52 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: which label to use in mount? From: Adam Vande More To: Sergei G Cc: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2015 14:39:54 -0000 On Tue, Dec 15, 2015 at 9:37 PM, Sergei G wrote: > I have executed the following commands: > > # gpart create -s GPT ada1 > # gpart add -t freebsd-ufs -l sback -s 50G ada1 > # newfs -nL back /dev/ada1p1 > > so, now I can mount it as either: > > # mount /dev/gpt/sback /mnt > or > # mount /dev/ufs/back /mnt > > Both seem to work. However, command > > df -H > > reports slightly different numbers: > > /dev/ufs/back 52G 4.1k 48G 0% /mnt > dev/gpt/dback 48G 4.0K 45G 0% /mnt > > Which way is the correct way to mount? > It is an arbitrary choice to use either gpt or ufs labels. Use one or the other, not both for a particular filesystem. GPT are more ubiquitous since you can use them for swap etc. UFS labels also have their use cases. However your output is inconsistent so I have no idea what's going on. Likely you have misrepresented something. -- Adam From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Dec 16 14:54:24 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18105A48E18 for ; Wed, 16 Dec 2015 14:54:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wm0-x22a.google.com (mail-wm0-x22a.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::22a]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B61061CB4 for ; Wed, 16 Dec 2015 14:54:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: by mail-wm0-x22a.google.com with SMTP id p187so4720481wmp.1 for ; Wed, 16 Dec 2015 06:54:23 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=X4ok0adwyABAeu52WsPKqeY2C4L33UqeM8QnC3iLGbo=; b=gf9GUHYwFkTJoi2s+XHME9NrEhu3wujo0d2k6WTUP9ARiF7sgrYWE1MFKBZZd4Sd2h mCCJR1XMKjxFGrYxD7dexXK6cGUvEOPKmXD6A/8bv3uznfVR1npj9sxSj0o7kY2a+KSh LRIikbnOp3dxv/pBCmARcOtSUjRJuV8J35SHfiljb28pbjAdvJ2jZrya/5UhvSUd2FuG aQ1XKOxVafbAD3iLNlCFfk5m6rAnDteCxOZXbXXuUBnvxykMZYv/J9nXB0T+g8qZ4lld vkzXefsK0dLN6JtrmCgCAsNdxK7tjUKd2Xf2ko1UP1K7ich9/+7DsZKnKNOX7m7135Fs v7EQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.28.15.132 with SMTP id 126mr6760227wmp.80.1450277660593; Wed, 16 Dec 2015 06:54:20 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.194.192.33 with HTTP; Wed, 16 Dec 2015 06:54:20 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2015 08:54:20 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Looking for fully working Intel-based laptop From: Adam Vande More To: Anton Sayetsky Cc: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2015 14:54:24 -0000 On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 4:48 AM, Anton Sayetsky wrote: > > > > I think it switches the output between them internally when stuff like > 3D is active. > Wiki says no - output is never switches: > >When a user launches an application, the graphics driver tries to > determine whether the application would benefit from the discrete GPU. If > so, the GPU is powered up from an idle state and is passed all rendering > calls. Even in this case, though, the integrated graphics processor (IGP) > is used to output the final image. > https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nvidia_Optimus > So one can think "unfortunately, my Hasswell/Skylake IGP isn't supported > yet, so I will use nVidia with binary driver". Then he tries and has no > success because still required to load driver for IGP even if not uses it > directly. > The white paper agrees with the wiki so I know of no modern laptop which has truly discrete graphics. Older ones did and you were able to toggle back and forth via func key or bios. I thought AMD still made some mobile CPU/s w/o integrated graphics, but maybe not. -- Adam From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Dec 16 14:59:10 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D15DEA49200 for ; Wed, 16 Dec 2015 14:59:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kraduk@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wm0-x22a.google.com (mail-wm0-x22a.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::22a]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6BE451FDF for ; Wed, 16 Dec 2015 14:59:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kraduk@gmail.com) Received: by mail-wm0-x22a.google.com with SMTP id p187so4830513wmp.0 for ; Wed, 16 Dec 2015 06:59:10 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=NP/7Kz5xLtHp58+4uk16EOS3GCVIHddRQpR5/Stg5jk=; b=YLe7USo8ORWHpFPqm1TzJebtBNodCuqLD/TliNXr0yHbn+DYZkZsiIfJXhQLBWk3yl h8l8zGYC9cZ6h4nswDk4YiEVTF4/c+58tO2r4XjYSXscY4T9snpalFBu5p4rPO84F0Dn RXUCguUg2nxbMI+P6cIee179TLbpQrBN1pIx5AMXQENPs/xIrWIXzNQc7HF2+0DQSbwq J8k6Is+sxfRUx2lB5z1wojVVoCbKhIpkXxWYaB+0fDRd0eTFDcyeBEfndYFE9oSmb9bp j4s/4TyZyJrsfx7WZkoM9LVi4oDWISZo77OcF1tezLCvtjkNWv2lxv/00Y1GW0/vKemd W8Wg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.28.104.134 with SMTP id d128mr12294923wmc.30.1450277948103; Wed, 16 Dec 2015 06:59:08 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.28.181.213 with HTTP; Wed, 16 Dec 2015 06:59:07 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20151216143015.M83316@brightstar.bomgardner.net> References: <20151214194012.M53329@brightstar.bomgardner.net> <20151216143015.M83316@brightstar.bomgardner.net> Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2015 14:59:07 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: freebsd-update, ZFS, and ver 8.2 From: krad To: Gene Cc: Freebsd Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2015 14:59:10 -0000 init 6 is a reboot beadm is just shell so you can download it and it will run i theory. It might use a few switches and flags that aren't available though so your mileage may vary. What you can do though is snap and clone your existing rootfs and present it in a format where it will work for 9 when you can use it. eg zroot/ROOT/9 If you have cloning issues and rsync of the base os to the new mountpoint should work fine as well, but use the -H flag as there are a few hard links in the os. This can be a bit more messy though depending on your setup. On 16 December 2015 at 14:37, Gene wrote: > *On Tue, 15 Dec 2015 08:10:40 +0000, krad wrote* > > > I would use boot environments if you are zfs root so you can fail back > easily. I would also use a src build as that will definitely work. > > eg > > > beadmn create -e old_root new_root > beadmn mount new_root /mnt > export > DESTDIR=/mnt > cd /usr/src > make -j 12 buildworld && > make -j 12 > buildkernel && > make installworld && > make installkernel && > mergemaster > && > beadmn umount new_root && > beadmn activate new_root > > later on init > 6 Thanks - I get the idea of boot environments, however, the beadm package > appears to be non-existant before 9.0 and this is an 8.2 system. I wonder > if the 9.0 .tbz might work here? Also - I'm not sure what 'init 6' is. > Thanks again. > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Dec 16 15:00:50 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5829A49356 for ; Wed, 16 Dec 2015 15:00:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vsasjason@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wm0-x236.google.com (mail-wm0-x236.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::236]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7481C1165 for ; Wed, 16 Dec 2015 15:00:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vsasjason@gmail.com) Received: by mail-wm0-x236.google.com with SMTP id l126so42345840wml.0 for ; Wed, 16 Dec 2015 07:00:50 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=gM83RNPE4rMHStPnGfguuMAfM/ENYjWM1XCHX1zn24Q=; b=E7uf4I2GxfT7QHdspgIhPRGJG9EaIa1uQA9gygJrWJkUXYBiKs8+Pp6tbajeKSjWkM 5YLFY1t7tyssuwAp+8pkf43ZeN2W4IWCrMU47zzpwyBR2x+2N/lpNNAu73a1zIAL80Bq XZhpxkcl0Pus5i2aqu4lB5CpZMFLtZ4aFjtsLGonAtDWlgq0yhGxFyeAVYXY9wWGmdIS qYbzii87OQlz2nx8DMf1fmhJiSHzXs29Ks1sG3TVrRgUfB28/Ge1gvXweP+RWuub0m88 RIaqojQr31MD8hWmOR/uiUZcWgQraUFFPoHIiLzvpDIjSymc1MDuIizp7nFJ23X3ocWM SccQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.28.136.142 with SMTP id k136mr5625534wmd.43.1450278048990; Wed, 16 Dec 2015 07:00:48 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.194.76.207 with HTTP; Wed, 16 Dec 2015 07:00:48 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.194.76.207 with HTTP; Wed, 16 Dec 2015 07:00:48 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2015 18:00:48 +0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: which label to use in mount? From: Anton Sayetsky To: Adam Vande More Cc: FreeBSD Questions , Sergei G Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2015 15:00:51 -0000 16 =D0=B4=D0=B5=D0=BA. 2015 =D0=B3. 16:40 =D0=BF=D0=BE=D0=BB=D1=8C=D0=B7=D0= =BE=D0=B2=D0=B0=D1=82=D0=B5=D0=BB=D1=8C "Adam Vande More" =D0=BD=D0=B0=D0=BF=D0=B8=D1=81=D0=B0=D0=BB: > > On Tue, Dec 15, 2015 at 9:37 PM, Sergei G wrote: > > > I have executed the following commands: > > > > # gpart create -s GPT ada1 > > # gpart add -t freebsd-ufs -l sback -s 50G ada1 > > # newfs -nL back /dev/ada1p1 > > > > so, now I can mount it as either: > > > > # mount /dev/gpt/sback /mnt > > or > > # mount /dev/ufs/back /mnt > > > > Both seem to work. However, command > > > > df -H > > > > reports slightly different numbers: > > > > /dev/ufs/back 52G 4.1k 48G 0% /mnt > > dev/gpt/dback 48G 4.0K 45G 0% /mnt > > > > Which way is the correct way to mount? > > > > It is an arbitrary choice to use either gpt or ufs labels. Use one or th= e > other, not both for a particular filesystem. GPT are more ubiquitous since > you can use them for swap etc. UFS labels also have their use cases. It's no harm to use both at the same time, on the same partitions, isn't it? As I said before, these labels are stored in a different places. Some more detailed explanation: Labels are used when one wants to be independent of disk names and partitions numbers. GPT has native support for labels, thus independent of filesystem or partition types. GPT labels are also not consuming space on disk because that space already reserved. So if you'll make 200-sectors partition and label it - you'll get 200 sectors available. UFS labels stored in last sector of block device so consuming space. If you create partition of 200 sectors and format it to UFS with label - you will get 199 sectors available (internal UFS structures not counted). So let's imagine that one has a partition and wants to mount it by name regardless of disk number: 1. GPT scheme - use GPT labels 2. MBR scheme, partition is UFS-formatted - use UFS label 3. MBR scheme, partition is swap or FS that doesn't support labels - use glabel. > However your output is inconsistent so I have no idea what's going on. > Likely you have misrepresented something. Yep, I'm think so too. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Dec 16 15:50:09 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49409A49C40 for ; Wed, 16 Dec 2015 15:50:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from smarthost1.sentex.ca (smarthost1.sentex.ca [IPv6:2607:f3e0:0:1::12]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "smarthost.sentex.ca", Issuer "smarthost.sentex.ca" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 028A31156 for ; Wed, 16 Dec 2015 15:50:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from [IPv6:2607:f3e0:0:4:f025:8813:7603:7e4a] (saphire3.sentex.ca [IPv6:2607:f3e0:0:4:f025:8813:7603:7e4a]) by smarthost1.sentex.ca (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id tBGFo8SB046081 for ; Wed, 16 Dec 2015 10:50:08 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) To: freebsd-questions From: Mike Tancsa X-Enigmail-Draft-Status: N1110 Organization: Sentex Communications Subject: sftp, syslog level, chrooted users in a jail Message-ID: <5671882E.3040509@sentex.net> Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2015 10:50:06 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.75 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2015 15:50:09 -0000 I am trying to increase the verbosity of sftp's syslog, but am running into a problem because the users are chrooted and ssh is running in a jail. My setup -- simple qjail with defaults I have inside, the user test1sftp:*:1002:1002:User &:/home/test1:/bin/false and in /etc/ssh/sshd_config I have Match user * ChrootDirectory %h ForceCommand internal-sftp -l debug1 AllowTcpForwarding no PermitTunnel no X11Forwarding no /home/test1sftp # ls -l /home/test1sftp total 27 drwxr-xr-x 5 root wheel uarch 5 Dec 16 10:04 . drwxrwxr-x 2 root wheel uarch 4 Dec 16 10:37 dev drwxr-xr-x 3 test1sftp test1sftp uarch 6 Dec 16 10:37 uploadhere In the dev directory, if I make # ls -l /home/test1sftp/dev/ total 2 drwxrwxr-x 2 root wheel uarch 4 Dec 16 10:37 . drwxr-xr-x 5 root wheel uarch 5 Dec 16 10:04 .. srw-rw-rw- 2 root wheel uarch 0 Dec 16 10:05 log srw------- 2 root wheel uarch 0 Dec 16 10:05 logpriv ln /var/run/logpriv logpriv ln /var/run/log log I can get it to work. 10:44:58 sshd 10:44:58 sshd: Accepted publickey for test1sftp from xxxx port 30534 ssh2: RSA 51:2e:.... 10:44:58 sshd: User child is on pid 83522 10:44:58 sshd: Changed root directory to "/home/test1sftp" 10:44:58 sshd: Starting session: forced-command (config) 'internal-sftp -l verbose' for test1sftp from xxx port 30534 10:44:58 internal-sftp 10:44:58 internal-sftp: received client version 3 10:44:58 internal-sftp: realpath "." 10:45:00 /usr/sbin/cron: (root) CMD (/usr/libexec/atrun) 10:45:02 internal-sftp: realpath "/uploadhere" 10:45:02 internal-sftp: stat name "/uploadhere" 10:45:04 internal-sftp: opendir "/uploadhere/" 10:45:04 internal-sftp: closedir "/uploadhere/" 10:45:04 internal-sftp: lstat name "/uploadhere/valid-ip.c" 10:45:04 internal-sftp: lstat name "/uploadhere/valid-ip.c" 10:45:04 internal-sftp: remove name "/uploadhere/valid-ip.c" 10:45:09 internal-sftp: open "/uploadhere/valid-ip.c" flags WRITE,CREATE,TRUNCATE mode 0644 10:45:09 internal-sftp: close "/uploadhere/valid-ip.c" bytes read 0 written 615 10:45:10 internal-sftp: opendir "/uploadhere" 10:45:10 internal-sftp: closedir "/uploadhere" 10:45:11 internal-sftp 10:45:11 sshd: Received disconnect from xxxx: 11: disconnected by user I have a few hundred users. Apart from creating dev/log hard links for every home directory, is there a different way to go about this ? Are there any security issues I need to be aware of ? ---Mike -- ------------------- Mike Tancsa, tel +1 519 651 3400 Sentex Communications, mike@sentex.net Providing Internet services since 1994 www.sentex.net Cambridge, Ontario Canada http://www.tancsa.com/ From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Dec 16 16:19:20 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 947A3A491FF for ; Wed, 16 Dec 2015 16:19:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lnomine@sii.fr) Received: from sn-mailhub.sii.fr (sn-mailhub.sii.fr [85.233.202.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B92A1482 for ; Wed, 16 Dec 2015 16:19:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lnomine@sii.fr) Received: from zimbra.sii.fr ([10.0.100.76]) by sn-mailhub.sii.fr (Lotus Domino Release 8.5.2FP2) with ESMTP id 2015121617191760-926064 ; Wed, 16 Dec 2015 17:19:17 +0100 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by zimbra.sii.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 341202FEB42 for ; Wed, 16 Dec 2015 17:19:13 +0100 (CET) Received: from zimbra.sii.fr ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zimbra.sii.fr [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10032) with ESMTP id EofJ7Uw8_Cge for ; Wed, 16 Dec 2015 17:19:12 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by zimbra.sii.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC12D2FEB4D for ; Wed, 16 Dec 2015 17:19:12 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at zimbra.sii.fr Received: from zimbra.sii.fr ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zimbra.sii.fr [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id H4vzy4rHdYRx for ; Wed, 16 Dec 2015 17:19:12 +0100 (CET) Received: from zimbra.sii.fr (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by zimbra.sii.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id B591F2FEB42 for ; Wed, 16 Dec 2015 17:19:12 +0100 (CET) Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2015 17:19:12 +0100 (CET) From: Louis NOMINE To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Message-ID: <259014141.5852675.1450282752701.JavaMail.zimbra@toulouse.sii.fr> In-Reply-To: <1670418152.5783766.1450276354056.JavaMail.zimbra@toulouse.sii.fr> References: <1670418152.5783766.1450276354056.JavaMail.zimbra@toulouse.sii.fr> Subject: Fwd: Dynamic Kernel Linker compilation issues MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Originating-IP: [10.0.100.11] X-Mailer: Zimbra 8.6.0_GA_1182 (ZimbraWebClient - GC47 (Win)/8.6.0_GA_1182) Thread-Topic: Dynamic Kernel Linker compilation issues Thread-Index: LTlg+ELmtAajV7hkWD+XExL52CcPouFHZCum X-MIMETrack: Itemize by SMTP Server on MailHub/Paris/SII/FR(Release 8.5.2FP2|March 22, 2011) at 16/12/2015 17:19:17, Serialize by Router on MailHub/Paris/SII/FR(Release 8.5.2FP2|March 22, 2011) at 16/12/2015 17:19:20, Serialize complete at 16/12/2015 17:19:20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2015 16:19:20 -0000 Hi,=20 I'm currently working on a project where I need to create a PCI device driv= er that can work on freeBSD. In order to learn how o do so I'm using the do= ccuentation I've found on your website (https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.I= SO8859-1/books/arch-handbook/driverbasics-kld.html)=20 I have created both files (source code and the makefile). when I try to do = a make operation I get the following error :=20 make: "/usr/share/mk/bsd.kmod.mk" line 12: Unable to locate the kernel sour= ce tree. Set SYSDIR to override.=20 I'm using PCBSD 10 and I don't know how to solve my problem.=20 Do you know how to help me ?=20 Thanks in advance,=20 Regards,=20 Louis Nomin=C3=A9=20 From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Dec 16 16:32:11 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC20EA499E0 for ; Wed, 16 Dec 2015 16:32:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ike@michaeleichorn.com) Received: from mx1.eichornenterprises.com (mx1.eichornenterprises.com [104.236.13.122]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mx1.eichornenterprises.com", Issuer "StartCom Class 1 Primary Intermediate Server CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6C3C51D3E for ; Wed, 16 Dec 2015 16:32:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ike@michaeleichorn.com) Received: from mail.eichornenterprises.com (cpe-184-59-147-149.neo.res.rr.com [184.59.147.149]) by mx1.eichornenterprises.com (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id 9ffd57ed; Wed, 16 Dec 2015 11:32:00 -0500 (EST) Received: by mail.eichornenterprises.com (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTPSA id 5dd51967 TLS version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO; Wed, 16 Dec 2015 11:32:00 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <1450283519.2869.24.camel@michaeleichorn.com> Subject: Re: Fwd: Dynamic Kernel Linker compilation issues From: "Michael B. Eichorn" To: Louis NOMINE , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2015 11:31:59 -0500 In-Reply-To: <259014141.5852675.1450282752701.JavaMail.zimbra@toulouse.sii.fr> References: <1670418152.5783766.1450276354056.JavaMail.zimbra@toulouse.sii.fr> <259014141.5852675.1450282752701.JavaMail.zimbra@toulouse.sii.fr> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg="sha-256"; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; boundary="=-1LL4hF5RJStjF2MFq6zM" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.18.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2015 16:32:11 -0000 --=-1LL4hF5RJStjF2MFq6zM Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Writing drivers is a bit off-topic for this list. This list focuses on user questions. As you get more technical the lists freebsd-drivers and freebsd-hackers will be of greater use to you. As to this specific problem, make says it cannot find the kernel sources. Did you install them? They are often optional to install and would be located at /usr/src. Refer to the PCBSD documentation to get the version appropriate for your version of PCBSD. On Wed, 2015-12-16 at 17:19 +0100, Louis NOMINE wrote: > Hi,=20 >=20 > I'm currently working on a project where I need to create a PCI > device driver that can work on freeBSD. In order to learn how o do so > I'm using the doccuentation I've found on your website (https://www.f > reebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/arch-handbook/driverbasics- > kld.html)=20 >=20 > I have created both files (source code and the makefile). when I try > to do a make operation I get the following error :=20 >=20 > make: "/usr/share/mk/bsd.kmod.mk" line 12: Unable to locate the > kernel source tree. 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ESMTPS id 9DA491E05 for ; Wed, 16 Dec 2015 18:08:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-31-25.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.31.25]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D8DE92785B; Wed, 16 Dec 2015 19:07:52 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id tBGI7rOK021319; Wed, 16 Dec 2015 19:07:53 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2015 19:07:53 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Anton Sayetsky Cc: Sergei G , FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: which label to use in mount? Message-Id: <20151216190753.606cc1e2.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2015 18:08:01 -0000 On Wed, 16 Dec 2015 18:00:48 +0300, Anton Sayetsky wrote: > So let's imagine that one has a partition and wants to mount it by name > regardless of disk number: > 1. GPT scheme - use GPT labels > 2. MBR scheme, partition is UFS-formatted - use UFS label > 3. MBR scheme, partition is swap or FS that doesn't support labels - use > glabel. 4. MBR scheme, partition is UFS-formatted - optionally use UFSID. See Handbook, chapter 18.7. "Labeling Disk Devices": https://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/geom-glabel.html However, using GPT labels or at least UFS labels is much more convenient. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Dec 16 20:29:43 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71EC1A48A1D for ; Wed, 16 Dec 2015 20:29:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chrisstankevitz@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ig0-x231.google.com (mail-ig0-x231.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c05::231]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 566EB1869; Wed, 16 Dec 2015 20:29:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chrisstankevitz@gmail.com) Received: by mail-ig0-x231.google.com with SMTP id to18so65412192igc.0; Wed, 16 Dec 2015 12:29:43 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=kXNZuRWq4uKsW2yn1pF5ziCSMR1n8+BFECG0igO9WJ8=; b=L3UXVTZc4pi6WcHYwARNFX+LOzHnZC2+RSYn/8qz7POKhLw/OvfNzqFfGaZLxZG4qz CtbQXqcMe2zmSqo9l61CV/6zuuWtKDHbhkuYRVwf8k98jppqBdhleoUM2AQTMG98lAEH C0bk25Uv4dIDLVIYlXkdGnNi71Mhp7X721pixH/cwBdq4Yvnm0KNpxXsWPFIviAYoitY 1gcSGFjbvGyg1M4xGNnVd5PEXm+ouZzfxwhYw7iciPjtv+E8RFCBAuneMd+QZUhNmSaB aFti+YKElRot9S3HhL1bGOTxYQXy2RJo2T4mxqNzb30K8y2+hgk4gkHl0SdujCHo3doC jmIQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.50.7.10 with SMTP id f10mr12308628iga.18.1450297782687; Wed, 16 Dec 2015 12:29:42 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.79.119.152 with HTTP; Wed, 16 Dec 2015 12:29:42 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <56711F73.1020606@FreeBSD.org> References: <5670B7C8.5000603@columbus.rr.com> <56711F73.1020606@FreeBSD.org> Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2015 12:29:42 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Migrating from ports to pkg From: Chris Stankevitz To: Matthew Seaman Cc: freebsd-questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2015 20:29:43 -0000 On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 12:23 AM, Matthew Seaman wrote: > What you will /have/ to do is look at any non-standard options settings > you've been using with portmaster. You'll need to decide if you can > live without the changes resulting from altered options or not. If you > can't then you'll need to work out some alternate method of building > packages with the options you want. I'm a big fan of poudriere for > that, but there are other methods. Thank you. FYI "pkg autoremove" offered to remove my build dependencies even though I did not clean and reinstall everything... which I wasn't expecting. Where can I get an authoritative list of which compile options are enabled for the packages supplied at pkg+http://pkg.FreeBSD.org/${ABI}/latest? I hope that mail/postfix will offer DOVECOT2=on but I doubt it. I believe that leaves me with poudriere or just using standard DIY ports. Thanks again, Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Dec 16 20:47:04 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B42CFA49664 for ; Wed, 16 Dec 2015 20:47:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3cd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk", Issuer "infracaninophile.co.uk" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 45604172D for ; Wed, 16 Dec 2015 20:47:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from liminal.local (liminal.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3636:3bff:fed4:b0d6]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id tBGKkrkS098531 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO); Wed, 16 Dec 2015 20:46:53 GMT (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk; dmarc=none header.from=FreeBSD.org DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.10.3 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk tBGKkrkS098531 Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk/tBGKkrkS098531; dkim=none; dkim-atps=neutral X-Authentication-Warning: lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk: Host liminal.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3636:3bff:fed4:b0d6] claimed to be liminal.local Subject: Re: Migrating from ports to pkg To: Chris Stankevitz References: <5670B7C8.5000603@columbus.rr.com> <56711F73.1020606@FreeBSD.org> Cc: freebsd-questions From: Matthew Seaman Message-ID: <5671CDB0.1090608@FreeBSD.org> Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2015 20:46:40 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.11; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="UV1iFnBtueiM7eSHFfo9Acr6HcXeUfh9v" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.98.7 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.7 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00, URIBL_BLOCKED autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2015 20:47:04 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --UV1iFnBtueiM7eSHFfo9Acr6HcXeUfh9v Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 16/12/2015 20:29, Chris Stankevitz wrote: > Where can I get an authoritative list of which compile options are > enabled for the packages supplied at > pkg+http://pkg.FreeBSD.org/${ABI}/latest? I hope that mail/postfix > will offer DOVECOT2=3Don but I doubt it. I believe that leaves me with= > poudriere or just using standard DIY ports. freshports.org will show you what the available options are, and what are set by default. Unfortunately DOVECOT2 is not enabled in the mail/postfix port. Cheers Matthew --UV1iFnBtueiM7eSHFfo9Acr6HcXeUfh9v Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2 iQJ8BAEBCgBmBQJWcc25XxSAAAAAAC4AKGlzc3Vlci1mcHJAbm90YXRpb25zLm9w ZW5wZ3AuZmlmdGhob3JzZW1hbi5uZXQ2NTNBNjhCOTEzQTRFNkNGM0UxRTEzMjZC QjIzQUY1MThFMUE0MDEzAAoJELsjr1GOGkATol4P/RpVFv8b/ziZoIpjj1E9bTM3 pKYWbhRhLGG7DmCO2TAJcLi1rBEwUDp+HDuKvefM9K1Rjysn4lYVqND2XtT8vznF /bNmFPxElcq8bZLVzV1grdFjPb+j3HIoI4vq5dvz+Avuo3KffYAq+Q+WkPJ+5jRt XKt9p5J++JhSXe/ksBszJIa93VOSKNgH87kt766w7y8vBZNmMe8z5TIPwO+qHNL1 a2sF5Od+i2oW0ES/JWH2prDgXXXR3h1zxPG4LxIxHsgeZ4Jj7mUsHO1/WJbLJZ4Y wsrpct5B8oAg8LtplTm8TDN2aDZrgweFQi81w2zvje54gkRl0ZNNcKgfQDUGmOEh IewOMgDM54NwjYCdTt9cEFPU2pGHouFpRSTuq3cfapiy80i1261NTjMmI9YWKzXh dOSymuRJipcgCIRAu4nt6193tSdOU+RpKXdWwHrE4nB+Dpr3Cb85AjEi5cqXrSav N2kM4elj1G4JbgJNcF3GF6cH/vJGfIXiE2AfvQfYtkASXGs3ZK6SC4vU8mByXjfk SkAnnT8g8kUA3bM+KVnzXDsngXd9l+ZNrtRpk+D6SgcYtNViXZ5ZL1BuJJ0P/cGT CRlZZFOZOFw+lkX+vWs0PWPwOSW5uXCyL/SwyNEEWUg1A4bcsLV6F7/ghki7WuGO sWbxOKg+VIHiLyEjxzlN =/fJ5 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --UV1iFnBtueiM7eSHFfo9Acr6HcXeUfh9v-- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Dec 16 20:48:25 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88C93A497DE for ; Wed, 16 Dec 2015 20:48:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@sohara.org) Received: from uk1mail2513.mymailbank.co.uk (UK1MAIL2513-PERMANET.IE.mymailbank.co.uk [217.69.47.44]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A6BD194E for ; Wed, 16 Dec 2015 20:48:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@sohara.org) Received: from smtp.lan.sohara.org (UnknownHost [88.151.27.41]) by uk1mail2513-d.mymailbank.co.uk with SMTP; Wed, 16 Dec 2015 20:47:54 +0000 Received: from [192.168.63.1] (helo=steve.lan.sohara.org) by smtp.lan.sohara.org with smtp (Exim 4.85 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1a9IzR-0007rE-OU for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 16 Dec 2015 20:48:01 +0000 Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2015 20:47:58 +0000 From: Steve O'Hara-Smith To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Migrating from ports to pkg Message-Id: <20151216204758.527efa26316df1e337fb136b@sohara.org> In-Reply-To: References: <5670B7C8.5000603@columbus.rr.com> <56711F73.1020606@FreeBSD.org> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.4.3 (GTK+ 2.24.28; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.1) X-Clacks-Overhead: "GNU Terry Pratchett" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2015 20:48:25 -0000 On Wed, 16 Dec 2015 12:29:42 -0800 Chris Stankevitz wrote: > Where can I get an authoritative list of which compile options are > enabled for the packages supplied at > pkg+http://pkg.FreeBSD.org/${ABI}/latest? I hope that mail/postfix pkg search -Q options > will offer DOVECOT2=on but I doubt it. I believe that leaves me with You are correct it does not. > poudriere or just using standard DIY ports. When there are only a small number of ports with special options it's quite easy to just build the essential ports using make missing to get a list of packages to install before building each port. Just don't forget to pkg lock all the customised packages so they don't get replaced by standard ones during an upgrade. With poudriere you wind up building all the dependencies locally and so have far more locally built ports than you need. I find poudriere works best if you do all your own package building, otherwise clashes between local and remote built packages are hard to handle. -- Steve O'Hara-Smith From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Dec 16 20:58:13 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45DB1A49ECC for ; Wed, 16 Dec 2015 20:58:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bmcgover@cisco.com) Received: from rcdn-iport-3.cisco.com (rcdn-iport-3.cisco.com [173.37.86.74]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-SEED-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "rcdn-iport.cisco.com", Issuer "HydrantID SSL ICA G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E34AF1255 for ; Wed, 16 Dec 2015 20:58:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bmcgover@cisco.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=@cisco.com; l=1536; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1450299492; x=1451509092; h=from:to:subject:date:message-id: content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; bh=W3d0lvlxmTgCGE4BHYpjI0+91SfbxHVpRnnNsZhL680=; b=DvRvEreXJVcjAX/95zIyf0P34VbP9+o8rmMq6i2VQIpUEAWtcMyWD63S v10JuFAi8J4hIUnx2H4uPgCx8N2OJk9JCusdftcd61i3E3j55IOdis4kO ratFiudU6bV/u6z6k/X2e4sicpGcfYHvBP3wgextuKSUUNXp0s83tHbjl 4=; X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: =?us-ascii?q?A0BRAgAyz3FW/4kNJK1egzpSc71yAQ2BY?= =?us-ascii?q?4c8OBQBAQEBAQEBfwuEOzoxIAE+QicEG4gnnCOheAEBCAIBIIZWiT+EfgWWfAG?= =?us-ascii?q?NQJ0hAR8BAUKEBIR8gQgBAQE?= X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.20,438,1444694400"; d="scan'208";a="59645640" Received: from alln-core-4.cisco.com ([173.36.13.137]) by rcdn-iport-3.cisco.com with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA; 16 Dec 2015 20:58:11 +0000 Received: from XCH-RTP-004.cisco.com (xch-rtp-004.cisco.com [64.101.220.144]) by alln-core-4.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id tBGKwAC0027385 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Wed, 16 Dec 2015 20:58:11 GMT Received: from xch-rtp-005.cisco.com (64.101.220.145) by XCH-RTP-004.cisco.com (64.101.220.144) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.1104.5; Wed, 16 Dec 2015 15:58:10 -0500 Received: from xch-rtp-005.cisco.com ([64.101.220.145]) by XCH-RTP-005.cisco.com ([64.101.220.145]) with mapi id 15.00.1104.009; Wed, 16 Dec 2015 15:58:10 -0500 From: "Brian McGovern (bmcgover)" To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Standardizing digital, analog control points in the kernel? Thread-Topic: Standardizing digital, analog control points in the kernel? Thread-Index: AQHROER4ZNUKP3vhHEekUG/XZyb8Zg== Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2015 20:58:10 +0000 Message-ID: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-ms-exchange-transport-fromentityheader: Hosted x-originating-ip: [10.131.65.20] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2015 20:58:13 -0000 All, This is a question that I'm sure could span multiple lists and multiple p= erspectives; for example, there is probably significant input to be had fro= m -arm. However, I'm going to ask here to try to get the biggest collection= of feedback. I've been working with a number of I/O capable devices for awhile - Pis, = Beaglebones, for example, but also a lot of the USB Velleman boards, X-10, = Insteon, etc. I've been contemplating a project to consolidate the various control poin= ts, with a certain amount of metadata, at the userland level and provide a = standardized interface - most likely through a network socket via XML, some= form of HTTP, a combination, or something else entirely. The reason would = be to sufficiently abstract the various layers so that domain experts could= focus on specific areas - for example, device driver writers could focus o= n adding more devices which provide control points without needing to provi= de server or applications bits, UI writers and control applications can wor= ry about looking pretty and communicating through a language-independent in= terface, and so forth. The question I have is whether a.) Anyone is looking at doing something s= imilar, and b.) if anyone is looking at doing something similar inside the = kernel as a device driver, filesystem, or other variation (e.g. I'm thinkin= g of something like ucom, where the low-level hardware drivers plug in to i= t to provide a generic user interface on top)? -B = From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Dec 16 22:48:07 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E6D9A487D2 for ; Wed, 16 Dec 2015 22:48:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ike@michaeleichorn.com) Received: from mx1.eichornenterprises.com (mx1.eichornenterprises.com [104.236.13.122]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mx1.eichornenterprises.com", Issuer "StartCom Class 1 Primary Intermediate Server CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0E2031277 for ; Wed, 16 Dec 2015 22:48:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ike@michaeleichorn.com) Received: from mail.eichornenterprises.com (cpe-184-59-147-149.neo.res.rr.com [184.59.147.149]) by mx1.eichornenterprises.com (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id d19f25b4; Wed, 16 Dec 2015 17:48:02 -0500 (EST) Received: by mail.eichornenterprises.com (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTPSA id 7471a12a TLS version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO; Wed, 16 Dec 2015 17:48:02 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <1450306085.1103.45.camel@michaeleichorn.com> Subject: Re: Standardizing digital, analog control points in the kernel? From: "Michael B. Eichorn" To: "Brian McGovern (bmcgover)" , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2015 17:48:05 -0500 In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.18.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2015 22:48:07 -0000 On Wed, 2015-12-16 at 20:58 +0000, Brian McGovern (bmcgover) wrote: > All, >   This is a question that I'm sure could span multiple lists and > multiple perspectives; for example, there is probably significant > input to be had from -arm. However, I'm going to ask here to try to > get the biggest collection of feedback. > >   I've been working with a number of I/O capable devices for awhile - > Pis, Beaglebones, for example, but also a lot of the USB Velleman > boards, X-10, Insteon, etc. > >   I've been contemplating a project to consolidate the various > control points, with a certain amount of metadata, at the userland > level and provide a standardized interface - most likely through a > network socket via XML, some form of HTTP, a combination, or > something else entirely. The reason would be to sufficiently abstract > the various layers so that domain experts could focus on specific > areas - for example, device driver writers could focus on adding more > devices which provide control points without needing to provide > server or applications bits, UI writers and control applications can > worry about looking pretty and communicating through a language- > independent interface, and so forth. > >   The question I have is whether a.) Anyone is looking at doing > something similar, and b.) if anyone is looking at doing something > similar inside the kernel as a device driver, filesystem, or other > variation (e.g. I'm thinking of something like ucom, where the low- > level hardware drivers plug in to it to provide a generic user > interface on top)? > >      -B This is an interesting idea and I think that a unified method for handling I/O would be very useful. It sounds like you are mostly talking about maker, home automation, and internet-of-things type devices, but it might have applications for scientific data acquisition and industrial control as well. Also such a stack should support realtime computing. Interestingly it appears that RTLinux died in 2011 so this could be an advantage for FreeBSD in IoT and Maker devices. Realtime is, in my opinion as a mechanical engineer, essential for any system that might control an appliance/drone/robot, or for that matter data acquisition in general. That said, I do like the idea of separating the application logic and the gui out from the details of the individual devices being used. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Dec 17 01:02:50 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 678A0A491B4 for ; Thu, 17 Dec 2015 01:02:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chrisstankevitz@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ig0-x22d.google.com (mail-ig0-x22d.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c05::22d]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 39E021CE7 for ; Thu, 17 Dec 2015 01:02:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chrisstankevitz@gmail.com) Received: by mail-ig0-x22d.google.com with SMTP id ph11so169237795igc.1 for ; Wed, 16 Dec 2015 17:02:50 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=GBAE6cOImRVAN+f6SBXFuPTF7pfSAsIoEKbdbCKAZwk=; b=jDTfWlY3lGbp7WYQAIL+YftQLCZFR5NZb+aQSJLPKdmZGvhmnLbdSZdfCksSHCCh9m smShIm+ZFSWeVS1I3q1cOFutSrbl9FcjrdFUqxVP29vi1eVO/05312rOYph490msVUfW IRHBjN79D4YIQWlgKU8dTd8EIsPlN/aByhtJBn295BxlrWnIq2BGhg9JgaH4WfIWX7kv z/PtaGmjRuIBvQ9cMp8XOhORXVcgB+htONvaLckYhND3iQiYjd6nweYw+59jOb2BF/u/ rCKOjL3QnqCxMmekLKiNQd/UQUYzuxNrHm3vCA70vtPTzdrNQjrX7ZaPNmGLwLUXwvNi e1sw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.107.153.79 with SMTP id b76mr25452397ioe.71.1450314169725; Wed, 16 Dec 2015 17:02:49 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.79.119.152 with HTTP; Wed, 16 Dec 2015 17:02:49 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20151216204758.527efa26316df1e337fb136b@sohara.org> References: <5670B7C8.5000603@columbus.rr.com> <56711F73.1020606@FreeBSD.org> <20151216204758.527efa26316df1e337fb136b@sohara.org> Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2015 17:02:49 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Migrating from ports to pkg From: Chris Stankevitz To: "Steve O'Hara-Smith" Cc: freebsd-questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2015 01:02:50 -0000 On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 12:47 PM, Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: > When there are only a small number of ports with special options > it's quite easy to just build the essential ports using make missing to get > a list of packages to install before building each port. Just don't forget > to pkg lock all the customised packages so they don't get replaced by > standard ones during an upgrade. Got it, thank you, Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Dec 17 03:42:46 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C688A4A632 for ; Thu, 17 Dec 2015 03:42:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "wonkity.com", Issuer "wonkity.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4CCE41E0A for ; Thu, 17 Dec 2015 03:42:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id tBH3gjUq049044 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 16 Dec 2015 20:42:45 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) with ESMTP id tBH3gius049041; Wed, 16 Dec 2015 20:42:44 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2015 20:42:44 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: Anton Sayetsky cc: Adam Vande More , Sergei G , FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: which label to use in mount? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (BSF 67 2015-01-07) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Wed, 16 Dec 2015 20:42:45 -0700 (MST) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2015 03:42:46 -0000 On Wed, 16 Dec 2015, Anton Sayetsky wrote: > Labels are used when one wants to be independent of disk names and > partitions numbers. GPT has native support for labels, thus independent of > filesystem or partition types. GPT labels are also not consuming space on > disk because that space already reserved. So if you'll make 200-sectors > partition and label it - you'll get 200 sectors available. > UFS labels stored in last sector of block device so consuming space. This is true of generic labels, but I'm fairly sure that UFS label information is stored in filesystem metadata and takes no additional space. If a whole GPT partition is used for a single filesystem, either the GPT label or the UFS label should work identically. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Dec 17 07:59:45 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5316A4978C for ; Thu, 17 Dec 2015 07:59:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3cd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk", Issuer "infracaninophile.co.uk" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 75990125C for ; Thu, 17 Dec 2015 07:59:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from liminal.local (liminal.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3636:3bff:fed4:b0d6]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id tBH7xa0x012740 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 17 Dec 2015 07:59:36 GMT (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk; dmarc=none header.from=FreeBSD.org DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.10.3 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk tBH7xa0x012740 Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk/tBH7xa0x012740; dkim=none; dkim-atps=neutral X-Authentication-Warning: lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk: Host liminal.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3636:3bff:fed4:b0d6] claimed to be liminal.local Subject: Re: Migrating from ports to pkg To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <5670B7C8.5000603@columbus.rr.com> <56711F73.1020606@FreeBSD.org> <20151216204758.527efa26316df1e337fb136b@sohara.org> From: Matthew Seaman X-Enigmail-Draft-Status: N1110 Message-ID: <56726B61.9000909@FreeBSD.org> Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2015 07:59:29 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.11; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20151216204758.527efa26316df1e337fb136b@sohara.org> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="hmvAq3BVkukxcBtOXX5teceJQTcHw2wdX" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.98.7 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.7 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2015 07:59:45 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --hmvAq3BVkukxcBtOXX5teceJQTcHw2wdX Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 16/12/2015 20:47, Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: > With poudriere you wind up building all the dependencies locally > and so have far more locally built ports than you need. I find poudrier= e > works best if you do all your own package building, otherwise clashes > between local and remote built packages are hard to handle. I believe Bryan is looking at ways to seed a poudriere build from a different repository. It's something I've wanted for quite a while, but the systems where I'd like to use it have sufficient capacity that building a bunch of packages multiple times[*] isn't a really big deal. Cheers, Matthew [*] ccache helps a lot. --hmvAq3BVkukxcBtOXX5teceJQTcHw2wdX Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2 iQJ8BAEBCgBmBQJWcmtoXxSAAAAAAC4AKGlzc3Vlci1mcHJAbm90YXRpb25zLm9w ZW5wZ3AuZmlmdGhob3JzZW1hbi5uZXQ2NTNBNjhCOTEzQTRFNkNGM0UxRTEzMjZC QjIzQUY1MThFMUE0MDEzAAoJELsjr1GOGkAT3oYQAI/nOypPphqnEwF/nelVqJC7 vMmObE7Ub9QiRmh9wCi6yVPZJrPIk/0WbOwmg+yv4+zlQK2zschV4voBhdPKE+Kh E17B8ANAfPpOzj7alF2X3fS31eInTt880xNYd/bjoq3FbgLfLVSZiBhOt6R/XAnB 1cJ4y0SN1KWZRtZaZZMkSHLgCCWCGUjyK89/BTuzoXXef+hlFSmeW3i2aY2OqQmA /j4TzZa3G1OHvQFN3+j4tDtObAyjJsg/7WNXaU/5M+dkUuwUClAReCj9cswjxZZF yrNAN+eFFuJ3SG/NMkTPmctTI2zle9uZUJY9jf2dFKKANlGlP4AJJZc65kuj9dPw kJHiiHJgMhop3yzTKsmUbwLic15XjCw02WjfD0vvAm8ERtVFglkdTMstukEO3J4L puk6pKf1GUV4AUAVM5dxF/ENbVHUyI4lkhu6sVfH807XmC4BfQVI9s7QTiafKPTZ rdE1kcz/PabqUFN2g96nvtQBqSbpN8E1ignUuLz0Kza7z72Pqm+bYAYrTdEooM6u Cr+xm3gURhKoTQkDLNSWsYlu9nEUm+0gRjvBXkrRu9eGMsBr0jI3+susVp/HQrRD KLY0Whx7letBJn39JtJmfKyG099GdmgjRC5PdT5qWyM6ba4EQcIUJfX2Y8X9rDHB nd8m9gRP2vepdoPffeZP =WywR -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --hmvAq3BVkukxcBtOXX5teceJQTcHw2wdX-- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Dec 17 09:34:03 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90E02A4A160 for ; Thu, 17 Dec 2015 09:34:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@sohara.org) Received: from uk1mail2513.mymailbank.co.uk (UK1MAIL2513-PERMANET.IE.mymailbank.co.uk [217.69.47.44]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 132931107 for ; Thu, 17 Dec 2015 09:34:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@sohara.org) Received: from smtp.lan.sohara.org (UnknownHost [88.151.27.41]) by uk1mail2513-d.mymailbank.co.uk with SMTP; Thu, 17 Dec 2015 09:33:31 +0000 Received: from [192.168.63.1] (helo=steve.lan.sohara.org) by smtp.lan.sohara.org with smtp (Exim 4.85 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1a9UwQ-000ClS-O6 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 17 Dec 2015 09:33:42 +0000 Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2015 09:33:40 +0000 From: Steve O'Hara-Smith To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Migrating from ports to pkg Message-Id: <20151217093340.4de4f38c08dd40ca7bac7cee@sohara.org> In-Reply-To: <56726B61.9000909@FreeBSD.org> References: <5670B7C8.5000603@columbus.rr.com> <56711F73.1020606@FreeBSD.org> <20151216204758.527efa26316df1e337fb136b@sohara.org> <56726B61.9000909@FreeBSD.org> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.4.3 (GTK+ 2.24.28; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.1) X-Clacks-Overhead: "GNU Terry Pratchett" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2015 09:34:03 -0000 On Thu, 17 Dec 2015 07:59:29 +0000 Matthew Seaman wrote: > On 16/12/2015 20:47, Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: > > With poudriere you wind up building all the dependencies locally > > and so have far more locally built ports than you need. I find poudriere > > works best if you do all your own package building, otherwise clashes > > between local and remote built packages are hard to handle. > > I believe Bryan is looking at ways to seed a poudriere build from a > different repository. Essentially automating the manual process I described ? That would be very nice indeed. If it could automatically track the right ports tree that would be *wonderful*. > It's something I've wanted for quite a while, but > the systems where I'd like to use it have sufficient capacity that > building a bunch of packages multiple times[*] isn't a really big deal. I went fairly low power (both my workstation and NAS/services boxes are Atom based - next iteration will likely be ARM) some time ago which has made me sensitive to compile workload. Updates were quite frustrating until I discovered pkg lock :) -- Steve O'Hara-Smith From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Dec 17 10:24:37 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C35ADA4A6E4 for ; Thu, 17 Dec 2015 10:24:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk) Received: from avasout07.plus.net (avasout07.plus.net [84.93.230.235]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "Bizanga Labs SMTP Client Certificate", Issuer "Bizanga Labs CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5CEEB177D for ; Thu, 17 Dec 2015 10:24:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk) Received: from curlew.milibyte.co.uk ([80.229.31.82]) by avasout07 with smtp id uaKa1r00B1mJoLY01aKcB0; Thu, 17 Dec 2015 10:19:36 +0000 X-CM-Score: 0.00 X-CNFS-Analysis: v=2.1 cv=CZH1n+fl c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=cd0K7rcWwnZFf6xQxRobyA==:117 a=cd0K7rcWwnZFf6xQxRobyA==:17 a=D7rCoLxHAAAA:8 a=0Bzu9jTXAAAA:8 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=wUQvQvOEmiQA:10 a=n999FUABAAAA:8 a=NEAV23lmAAAA:8 a=PN8M5cWEP9hgVCwbM8YA:9 a=ttKzVss4MGASuY_x:21 a=AAHpkURp7K8_SeVp:21 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 Received: from curlew.lan ([192.168.1.13]) by curlew.milibyte.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.86) (envelope-from ) id 1a9Veo-00019J-7j for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 17 Dec 2015 10:19:34 +0000 Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2015 10:19:33 +0000 From: Mike Clarke To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20151217101933.3ca571b2@curlew.lan> In-Reply-To: <20151216204758.527efa26316df1e337fb136b@sohara.org> References: <5670B7C8.5000603@columbus.rr.com> <56711F73.1020606@FreeBSD.org> <20151216204758.527efa26316df1e337fb136b@sohara.org> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.13.0 (GTK+ 2.24.28; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.1) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 192.168.1.13 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on curlew.lan X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 Subject: Re: Migrating from ports to pkg Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on curlew.milibyte.co.uk) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2015 10:24:37 -0000 On Wed, 16 Dec 2015 20:47:58 +0000 Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: > When there are only a small number of ports with special options > it's quite easy to just build the essential ports using make missing to get > a list of packages to install before building each port. Just don't forget > to pkg lock all the customised packages so they don't get replaced by > standard ones during an upgrade. This normally works well for me but be aware that if your ports tree isn't in sync with the package repository you can run into dependency problems, I use the sync-ports script from https://gist.github.com/xzhavilla/61dedc55c33cb32c1546 though it needs a little hacking to work on 10.2. The ideal solution would be if there were an option within pkg to update /usr/ports to sync it with the version used for building the current repository or even to just supply the revision number of the ports tree. -- Mike Clarke From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Dec 17 12:04:11 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 336E7A48054 for ; Thu, 17 Dec 2015 12:04:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vsasjason@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wm0-x229.google.com (mail-wm0-x229.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::229]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C27FC10BB for ; Thu, 17 Dec 2015 12:04:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vsasjason@gmail.com) Received: by mail-wm0-x229.google.com with SMTP id l126so18373899wml.1 for ; Thu, 17 Dec 2015 04:04:10 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=e16EJgTDWgW9sFpGvCqq9LRpyYnKDsktqJFtL5nm7yA=; b=N0OfPwMu0kGARnXm2SvaFmriWzKkHKZrHAS66pW9kg5cfUZqD0LZYAwvUVWofpQad0 9N+2MlXdi4kqgMWynEUcmgw0nONrlznrEgFrgQoGQFx8g0Qrj15beC8cMsDz9u2a2Jl3 jk91nC8mZOT67NVa19tz3XSptKQOW55pC1cTyh+WqUrI/DnsKdIw7/LLrhBxzw1yzFnH TFXtb2L/wou0xdLBHWHcBt5Xa+Z0lQnOl/k38gPqRQwYwc/BrfjbRsFRXQT+WX15BG+O ykPVKZqAQVngw8RfzpgyD19FMcTOB7PmrQwZVVXs4vf78kXQKNjxBIPiqshm2c/KKVJZ SnZA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.28.85.129 with SMTP id j123mr3858782wmb.77.1450353849275; Thu, 17 Dec 2015 04:04:09 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.194.76.207 with HTTP; Thu, 17 Dec 2015 04:04:09 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.194.76.207 with HTTP; Thu, 17 Dec 2015 04:04:09 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2015 15:04:09 +0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: which label to use in mount? From: Anton Sayetsky To: Warren Block Cc: Adam Vande More , FreeBSD Questions , Sergei G Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2015 12:04:11 -0000 17 =D0=B4=D0=B5=D0=BA. 2015 =D0=B3. 5:42 =D0=BF=D0=BE=D0=BB=D1=8C=D0=B7=D0= =BE=D0=B2=D0=B0=D1=82=D0=B5=D0=BB=D1=8C "Warren Block" =D0=BD=D0=B0=D0=BF=D0=B8=D1=81=D0=B0=D0=BB: > > On Wed, 16 Dec 2015, Anton Sayetsky wrote: > >> Labels are used when one wants to be independent of disk names and >> partitions numbers. GPT has native support for labels, thus independent of >> filesystem or partition types. GPT labels are also not consuming space o= n >> disk because that space already reserved. So if you'll make 200-sectors >> partition and label it - you'll get 200 sectors available. >> UFS labels stored in last sector of block device so consuming space. > > > This is true of generic labels, but I'm fairly sure that UFS label information is stored in filesystem metadata and takes no additional space. Yep, my fault. Of course metadata. > If a whole GPT partition is used for a single filesystem, either the GPT label or the UFS label should work identically. Maybe TS mounted same partition twice. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Dec 17 13:59:10 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AA74A4ABF7 for ; Thu, 17 Dec 2015 13:59:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from merlyn@geeks.org) Received: from mail.geeks.org (jacobs.geeks.org [204.153.247.1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2229B1968 for ; Thu, 17 Dec 2015 13:59:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from merlyn@geeks.org) Received: from mail.geeks.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by after-clamsmtpd.geeks.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 956DD110234 for ; Thu, 17 Dec 2015 07:52:21 -0600 (CST) Received: by mail.geeks.org (Postfix, from userid 1003) id 701B2110228; Thu, 17 Dec 2015 07:52:21 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2015 07:52:21 -0600 From: Doug McIntyre To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Best way to start pkg daemons that don't come with their own rc script Message-ID: <20151217135221.GB1545@geeks.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.24 (2015-08-30) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2015 13:59:10 -0000 So, for the concrete example. FreeBSD10.2 I want to run ntp-devel So I install it out of pkg and it goes into /usr/local. But it doesn't supply a /usr/local/etc/rc.d/ntpd rc script. Presumably because /etc/rc.d/ntpd already exists for the system installed ntpd. What I tried was to move the ntpd rc out of /etc into /usr/local/etc and change the 'command' to /usr/local/sbin/${name} BUT, the rc.subr code pretty much overrides that to run /usr/sbin/${name} anyway. Since ntpd is part of the base system, I feel stymied. I did a hack to make it work. But what would be the "proper FreeBSD way" to have the rc script run the right binary here? From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Dec 17 14:03:49 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37B7EA4AFC1 for ; Thu, 17 Dec 2015 14:03:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vsasjason@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wm0-x22c.google.com (mail-wm0-x22c.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::22c]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CA8E41CAF for ; Thu, 17 Dec 2015 14:03:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vsasjason@gmail.com) Received: by mail-wm0-x22c.google.com with SMTP id l126so24905690wml.1 for ; Thu, 17 Dec 2015 06:03:48 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=fkpG54bvRi8Y9oV0EBxYpq2O2scEQNJqVMLW5H/H/p8=; b=ACvWmLgyRTW2yp+I0wchaawvKgHFpPQpzkUkY2bBnoJIvRKcv+ohFAGE3stISy90QN gjrrVOOYGu+xAL7hEOfQnbo9wxj/UDt0KYxQjzYitRN8QSR2Ov8rEkB2E7CqFNkfcY8F pBaGjKYKo7+5z4khjmuLDWWjs4XHqMN4sKC0nev6un9FeWRp7k2pdOQth47jpQBphSJp bwYw3Stu59fuXQMeY2xM7/zRDN+TIJ3kVvMg4fR9OvA22YfwaLKzE4gLvFk5f4xShSEJ HWNVMdnNra857jQ/CErie1wlBCDDrVhjeX4xrzRBnRQuI4N/BNU8+f9mmBLrM/mjhh1w f+1A== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.28.226.86 with SMTP id z83mr4542384wmg.77.1450361026156; Thu, 17 Dec 2015 06:03:46 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.194.76.207 with HTTP; Thu, 17 Dec 2015 06:03:45 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.194.76.207 with HTTP; Thu, 17 Dec 2015 06:03:45 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20151217135221.GB1545@geeks.org> References: <20151217135221.GB1545@geeks.org> Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2015 17:03:45 +0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Best way to start pkg daemons that don't come with their own rc script From: Anton Sayetsky To: Doug McIntyre Cc: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2015 14:03:49 -0000 17 =D0=B4=D0=B5=D0=BA. 2015 =D0=B3. 15:59 =D0=BF=D0=BE=D0=BB=D1=8C=D0=B7=D0= =BE=D0=B2=D0=B0=D1=82=D0=B5=D0=BB=D1=8C "Doug McIntyre" =D0=BD=D0=B0=D0=BF=D0=B8=D1=81=D0=B0=D0=BB: > > So, for the concrete example. > > FreeBSD10.2 > I want to run ntp-devel > > So I install it out of pkg and it goes into /usr/local. > > But it doesn't supply a /usr/local/etc/rc.d/ntpd rc script. > Presumably because /etc/rc.d/ntpd already exists for the system > installed ntpd. > > What I tried was to move the ntpd rc out of /etc into /usr/local/etc > and change the 'command' to /usr/local/sbin/${name} > > BUT, the rc.subr code pretty much overrides that to run /usr/sbin/${name} > anyway. > > Since ntpd is part of the base system, I feel stymied. > > I did a hack to make it work. > > But what would be the "proper FreeBSD way" to have the rc script run > the right binary here? If you need to run software that is installed from ports and exists in the base too, take a look at /etc/defaults/rc.conf. For example, you should only add ntpd_program=3D"/usr/local/sbin/ntpd" in rc.conf. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Dec 17 14:54:19 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A1FDA4A37B for ; Thu, 17 Dec 2015 14:54:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bmcgover@cisco.com) Received: from rcdn-iport-5.cisco.com (rcdn-iport-5.cisco.com [173.37.86.76]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-SEED-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "rcdn-iport.cisco.com", Issuer "HydrantID SSL ICA G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 28670143F for ; Thu, 17 Dec 2015 14:54:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bmcgover@cisco.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=@cisco.com; l=5225; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1450364059; x=1451573659; h=from:to:subject:date:message-id:references:in-reply-to: content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; bh=K7GwCDg9pkTCipwJjguQV651/08hFakmPcxUj1M/538=; b=mXtW6uO1kAtXm5qOqJTg+Hfo+7y7Ix1Tp8P+5zwxiCvjEOcEe/MbhKU6 mtQZdVZVZnC0dy7dCjV5IH/cPccS+hxzLDNwc24uB9DoAQlZFqBQXXPvZ Pdh34oGwNNoCFEPe+O66QKU8UaFbNZ9sHixRJ0TwLn/erzbaec4Cwop+M k=; X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: =?us-ascii?q?A0D9AQAXzHJW/5pdJa1egzpSbQa9awENg?= =?us-ascii?q?WKGDQKBNjgUAQEBAQEBAYEKhDQBAQEEOjEeAgEIEQQBAQEeEDIdCAIEARIIiCe?= =?us-ascii?q?9PwEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBARuGVoR+hD4EhH4Fh12PIAGNQJ0jASABAUKCE?= =?us-ascii?q?R2BVnKDdIEIAQEB?= X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.20,441,1444694400"; d="scan'208";a="56437053" Received: from rcdn-core-3.cisco.com ([173.37.93.154]) by rcdn-iport-5.cisco.com with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384; 17 Dec 2015 14:54:11 +0000 Received: from XCH-RTP-002.cisco.com (xch-rtp-002.cisco.com [64.101.220.142]) by rcdn-core-3.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id tBHEsBBO024028 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Thu, 17 Dec 2015 14:54:11 GMT Received: from xch-rtp-005.cisco.com (64.101.220.145) by XCH-RTP-002.cisco.com (64.101.220.142) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.1104.5; Thu, 17 Dec 2015 09:54:10 -0500 Received: from xch-rtp-005.cisco.com ([64.101.220.145]) by XCH-RTP-005.cisco.com ([64.101.220.145]) with mapi id 15.00.1104.009; Thu, 17 Dec 2015 09:54:10 -0500 From: "Brian McGovern (bmcgover)" To: "Michael B. Eichorn" , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: RE: Standardizing digital, analog control points in the kernel? Thread-Topic: Standardizing digital, analog control points in the kernel? Thread-Index: AQHROER4ZNUKP3vhHEekUG/XZyb8Zp7Oiu+AgACx0wA= Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2015 14:54:10 +0000 Message-ID: <7a59c80486f6471a84f5e87ac3485aa4@XCH-RTP-005.cisco.com> References: , <1450306085.1103.45.camel@michaeleichorn.com> In-Reply-To: <1450306085.1103.45.camel@michaeleichorn.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-ms-exchange-transport-fromentityheader: Hosted x-originating-ip: [10.86.249.145] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2015 14:54:19 -0000 >________________________________________ >From: Michael B. Eichorn [ike@michaeleichorn.com] >Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2015 5:48 PM >To: Brian McGovern (bmcgover); freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >Subject: Re: Standardizing digital, analog control points in the kernel? > >On Wed, 2015-12-16 at 20:58 +0000, Brian McGovern (bmcgover) wrote: >> All, >> This is a question that I'm sure could span multiple lists and >> multiple perspectives; for example, there is probably significant >> input to be had from -arm. However, I'm going to ask here to try to >> get the biggest collection of feedback. >> >> I've been working with a number of I/O capable devices for awhile - >> Pis, Beaglebones, for example, but also a lot of the USB Velleman >> boards, X-10, Insteon, etc. >> >> I've been contemplating a project to consolidate the various >> control points, with a certain amount of metadata, at the userland >> level and provide a standardized interface - most likely through a >> network socket via XML, some form of HTTP, a combination, or >> something else entirely. The reason would be to sufficiently abstract >> the various layers so that domain experts could focus on specific >> areas - for example, device driver writers could focus on adding more >> devices which provide control points without needing to provide >> server or applications bits, UI writers and control applications can >> worry about looking pretty and communicating through a language- >> independent interface, and so forth. >> >> The question I have is whether a.) Anyone is looking at doing >> something similar, and b.) if anyone is looking at doing something >> similar inside the kernel as a device driver, filesystem, or other >> variation (e.g. I'm thinking of something like ucom, where the low- >> level hardware drivers plug in to it to provide a generic user >> interface on top)? >> >> -B > >This is an interesting idea and I think that a unified method for >handling I/O would be very useful. It sounds like you are mostly >talking about maker, home automation, and internet-of-things type devices,= but it might have applications for scientific data acquisition and industr= ial control as well. >Also such a stack should support realtime computing. Interestingly it >appears that RTLinux died in 2011 so this could be an advantage for >FreeBSD in IoT and Maker devices. Realtime is, in my opinion as a >mechanical engineer, essential for any system that might control an >appliance/drone/robot, or for that matter data acquisition in general. > >That said, I do like the idea of separating the application logic and >the gui out from the details of the individual devices being used. My commercial work experience in the space was commercial building automati= on via Andover Controls devices back in the late 80s/early 90s (Andover has= since been acquired by Schnider electric) which ran over BACnet. What I'm hoping to do as the primary goal of my work is to define a network= layer protocol for the data exchage. That way, if drivers and userland var= y on FreeBSD vs. Linux vs. fill-in-another-OS, it theoretically doesn't mat= ter - a Linux based UI should be able to control a protocol compliant Raspb= ian system, or a FreeBSD box. Similarly, if you want to use C, or C++, or P= ython, or Java, or fill-in-another-language to connect to the network and c= hat with a device, it doesn't matter. At the end of the day, users should b= e able to select best-in-class for the various layers, and plug it together= . In designing, I'm stuck at the point of having a fairly common layer pointi= ng at the network, and bolt-on "device drivers" for the various flavors of = I/O. For example, the Beaglebone ADC has a driver which operates via sysctl= (); the digital pins use GPIO. Vellemen USB boards, X-10, and Insteon inter= faces are basically USB serial streams, each with their own proprietary com= mand/response protocols. Hence, as a secondary goal, I'm curious to explore setting up a common fram= e work for the typical types of I/O one typically sees in this space - Digi= tal I/O, Analog I/O, potentially things like driver enforced tri-state. In terms of "Real Time", I dislike the term mostly because it becomes terri= bly abused to mean what the engineer wants it to mean. Using the definition= of "of or relating to a system in which input data is processed within mil= liseconds so that it is available virtually immediately as feedback, e.g., = in a missile guidance or airline booking system." (Google definition, shoul= d you want to trace my steps), its not impossible, but its well outside the= scope. Most operating systems have large, asynchronous components, and the= network will have all kinds of random variations on timing. Unless you man= aged everything on and off the wire, you may get that kind of response most= of the time, maybe even every time, but I doubt it'll be warrantied. Further, "correct" systems have to have other considerations - power on sta= tes, loss-of-control failsafes, and so on, most of which are either above o= r below the layer interfaces. -B= From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Dec 17 15:03:36 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBB16A4A944 for ; Thu, 17 Dec 2015 15:03:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mcdonnjd@pcam.org) Received: from na01-by2-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com (mail-by2on0130.outbound.protection.outlook.com [207.46.100.130]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mail.protection.outlook.com", Issuer "MSIT Machine Auth CA 2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 355E219B4 for ; Thu, 17 Dec 2015 15:03:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mcdonnjd@pcam.org) Received: from BLUPR07MB321.namprd07.prod.outlook.com (10.141.25.14) by BLUPR07MB322.namprd07.prod.outlook.com (10.141.25.19) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.1.361.13; Thu, 17 Dec 2015 15:03:25 +0000 Received: from BLUPR07MB321.namprd07.prod.outlook.com ([169.254.13.26]) by BLUPR07MB321.namprd07.prod.outlook.com ([169.254.13.26]) with mapi id 15.01.0361.006; Thu, 17 Dec 2015 15:03:25 +0000 From: John McDonnell To: FreeBSD Questions Subject: POS system trashing hard drives during install Thread-Topic: POS system trashing hard drives during install Thread-Index: AdE42/YAUl1Y0GLdSvaQohL1/K9PRA== Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2015 15:03:25 +0000 Message-ID: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: authentication-results: spf=none (sender IP is ) smtp.mailfrom=mcdonnjd@pcam.org; x-originating-ip: [68.234.51.1] x-microsoft-exchange-diagnostics: 1; BLUPR07MB322; 5:Yeg/N8gdwh8cmyLIjtLvt8s+EqduVQzJcOM2YfutXSxz/PKYJhFw5dgMyNvQQ0BG/pnojPI2yklbpvRNMDjTc1jK+8QFHgebcsx1DVKnP/R3xFicvGDw6D11FuxK09ZSjw8gQTjeT6BSrOm+nS0gIg==; 24:xy4VZolPm25B7ncChWShMdUEebO3PG/Gis8qhhFpzRn0Lvr/+v6draJXwOzlGHQege7JbEOLLAvHv5rfcBuWJCnbnupFzJ+7aUo6Io1b+4s=; 20:VQjnB83X+sStWOMtXRopWjZhdCWhP4Io2naMGAGEOEF2f7CmNIS4HRVYiKdFYYVn3z67GKwydqfjeA6BObdCX+AmfcEpi4HdAMwlkMmdrEO8ntOMySJAGVSTW8Bz4sB3PD936Ai3t+JrRO8dUGGK4/4HzdCHU9+67jqJV3dKN/I= x-microsoft-antispam: UriScan:;BCL:0;PCL:0;RULEID:;SRVR:BLUPR07MB322; x-microsoft-antispam-prvs: x-exchange-antispam-report-test: UriScan:(192713067249063); x-exchange-antispam-report-cfa-test: BCL:0; PCL:0; RULEID:(601004)(2401047)(520078)(5005006)(8121501046)(3002001)(10201501046); SRVR:BLUPR07MB322; BCL:0; PCL:0; RULEID:; SRVR:BLUPR07MB322; x-forefront-prvs: 07935ACF08 x-forefront-antispam-report: SFV:NSPM; SFS:(10019020)(6009001)(189002)(199003)(504964003)(19580405001)(5001960100002)(110136002)(54356999)(76576001)(33656002)(66066001)(1220700001)(1096002)(586003)(5008740100001)(10400500002)(101416001)(6116002)(107886002)(102836003)(74316001)(3846002)(19580395003)(92566002)(5004730100002)(40100003)(5002640100001)(86362001)(122556002)(50986999)(189998001)(229853001)(81156007)(5003600100002)(450100001)(106356001)(87936001)(99286002)(105586002)(2900100001)(97736004)(11100500001); DIR:OUT; SFP:1102; SCL:1; SRVR:BLUPR07MB322; H:BLUPR07MB321.namprd07.prod.outlook.com; FPR:; SPF:None; PTR:InfoNoRecords; MX:1; A:0; LANG:en; received-spf: None (protection.outlook.com: pcam.org does not designate permitted sender hosts) spamdiagnosticoutput: 1:23 spamdiagnosticmetadata: NSPM Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginatorOrg: pcam.org X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-originalarrivaltime: 17 Dec 2015 15:03:25.7658 (UTC) X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-fromentityheader: Hosted X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-id: 4d0a72ee-ba26-46d5-8bbe-6430f01b636a X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: BLUPR07MB322 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2015 15:03:37 -0000 I rescued a Point Of Sale system from recycling and had the bright idea to = put it out on one of my kitchen counters with the intention of creating a k= iosk of sorts to allow looking up recipes (I still need to search ports for= some type of cookbook software though there are plenty of recipes availabl= e online as well) as well as perhaps providing some music as well. The print on the bottom lists the model name as POS System and model number= as Frontier. The user manual I have says CobraPos 1370/1478, so not exactl= y sure which model it is, but I'm fairly certain it is only minor differenc= es between the two after looking through the manual. The systems originally= had 256 MB of RAM, a 40 GB hard drive, a 2 GHz Celeron processor, and a sl= im CD-ROM drive. (I'm not sure of the exact processor, but I have a couple = more of these here at work so I could look it up if needed if I have time, = or I can find out when I get home.) They originally ran Windows XP Professi= onal on a 40 GB PATA hard drive. There is apparently SATA available somewhe= re, but I've not tried locating the ports on the motherboard yet but I've g= ot that idea in the back of my head for something to possibly attempt in th= e future. It does not have any of the optional credit card readers or secon= dary displays, though it would be kind of cool to get the 2x20 VFD for a fu= n retro POS look, though the secondary smaller monitor that mounts in the s= ame position would be prettier and both are moot since I won't be using thi= s as an actual POS system, but perhaps if I decide to rescue one of the oth= er units here... I upgraded the RAM to 1 GB (all I have laying around are sticks of DDR in 5= 12 MB for the two sockets, but it will accept 1 GB sticks if I come across = any, though I think we already recycled all of our PCs running DDR, and I d= on't recall seeing any that had 1 GB sticks in them anyway) and wanted to p= ut FreeBSD on it instead of XP, so I dug out an 80 GB PATA hard drive for a= bit of extra space and so I could save the XP hard drive as a backup of a = running system. I'm going to try and dig through some of our old laptops th= at we haven't recycled yet and see if I can find at least a slim CDRW drive= though I'm really looking for a DVD drive with the correct connectors, tho= ugh I probably won't be using the drive at all after installation. I didn't= take the 40 pin IDE and power adapter off the drive to get a good look, bu= t the brief glance reminded me of the connector on an older (T40?) ThinkPad= , which we've already recycled of course. I believe the disk I had on hand is a FreeBSD 10 disk, though I'm going to = burn a 10.2 disk if I don't find one laying around already, though I don't = think the difference between 10 and 10.2 will make any difference. I might = even be better off going with an older version due to the installer default= s and then doing an update. Sorry for the long post so far, but here is whe= re I'm running into my problem. The installer boots up and runs through the= process perfectly fine. But upon rebooting after install, the system locks= up. It runs the memory check and displays the connected IDE devices (the h= ard drive and CD-ROM drive) and the keyboard is still semi-responsive, I ca= n hit Del or F9 and it will display "Entering BIOS" or "Loading Boot Device= List" but that is all that happens. It doesn't actually go into the BIOS o= r do anything and CTRL+ALT+DEL doesn't restart the system, I have to hard p= ower down. If I disconnect the hard drive at this point, the system boots f= ine. I pulled the hard drive out and connected it to my PC with an IDE to U= SB adapter and Windows won't initialize the drive and says there is an erro= r with it. (ie I can't even re-format it in Windows, I know UFS wouldn't be= available.) I thought well, maybe it was just bad timing and the drive jus= t died. So I grabbed another 80 GB drive I had, checked it in my Windows ma= chine and then put it into the POS. I had the same thing happen after the f= irst reboot. I plugged it back into my Windows PC and once again, it can't = do anything with the drive. So now I'm thinking maybe the system doesn't li= ke GPT formatting and was doing something funny with it. So I grabbed anoth= er 80 GB drive and put it in and went through the manual process of using g= part to use MBR partitioning instead of GPT. But once again, I rebooted the= system and it locked up the same way. I didn't plug this drive back into m= y Windows PC to see if it is trashed as well as it was 2 AM at this point a= nd I was calling it a night. I think I have one more working 80 GB drive at= home, but I'd really like some input on how to possibly get this working. = And my other 80 GB drives might be salvageable somehow, perhaps plug into a= system with onboard IDE connectors and try some low level utilities or som= ething, but I'm not sure I have a system at home with that kind of setup an= ymore. Perhaps I'll try and find a BIOS update, but with all the extras added onto= the motherboard internally, I'd be afraid of it not working afterwards unl= ess I can verify it's specific for this POS system. (It's one of the weirde= st layouts I've ever seen with the motherboard mounted behind the LCD monit= or and some daughterboards connected via I have no idea what as I didn't go= disconnecting any of them yet. One of them seems to have an additional VGA= port on it but not connected to anything but does have a header that the s= peakers are connected to. I accidentally knocked them out of their mount in= the case and have no idea if they are stereo or dual mono, but if stereo, = I probably now have the left on the right and the right on the left... Then= in the base of the system there's the power supply, hard drive, CD-ROM, an= additional board providing access to a CF card slot, front USB ports, mic = jack and power button and then another additional board in the back providi= ng the rear IO panel with its extra serial ports, LAN (which is a passthrou= gh type of connector as there is an Ethernet cable that plugs into a jack o= n the board to go back to the motherboard along with the quite large ribbon= cable that connects this board to the motherboard) some additional 12 volt= power ports, parallel port, a 12 volt USB port and 24 volt USB port.) (I n= eed to look into these powered USB ports which are apparently something of = a standard for POS systems to provide data and power to cash drawers and pr= inters and such without having to have extra power cords and such, it sort = of looks like a dual USB port stack with a normal USB port on the bottom an= d the port on top is closer in size and a similar shape of a cat5 port but = with a block in the middle with connectors like a larger USB port. I'm assu= ming the larger connectors for the higher voltage. The bottom USB port is s= tandard size as I did try plugging a USB drive into it while it was off jus= t to see if it fit. I'm thinking it might operate as a normal USB port and = all the higher voltage runs through the adjoining port. I'll have to look i= t up later.) A thought I had this morning after getting into work was to perhaps attempt= installing FreeBSD onto a hard drive on a machine here at work and then ta= king it home and try booting it there. Might be something weird the system = does when formatting that makes it screwy. I know the system itself works a= s it runs with the Windows XP hard drive I have as backup. I'm open to sugg= estions, though I've kind of run out of hard drives for too much testing un= less I can find some more, though I do have more 40 GB drives, which should= be more than enough space for this machine really. Sorry for the really long post, but I tend to ramble a bit and I also wante= d to make sure I included as much relevant information as I could think of.= If you have questions about the hardware, I can check it out when I get ho= me, or grab one of the other systems from work to look at here if I have so= me spare time. Hopefully since we've outsourced our e-mail, I can post to t= he mailing list from this address, but I'm still half expecting it to bounc= e since it is Office 365. Thank you in advance for any and all help you can provide with my problem a= nd for all the help you've already provided from me reading the mailing lis= t. --=20 John McDonnell mcdonnjd@pcam.org From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Dec 17 19:34:17 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7339DA4B4A6 for ; Thu, 17 Dec 2015 19:34:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jim@ohlste.in) Received: from mail-qk0-x232.google.com (mail-qk0-x232.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c09::232]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 381071EE2 for ; Thu, 17 Dec 2015 19:34:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jim@ohlste.in) Received: by mail-qk0-x232.google.com with SMTP id p187so102714450qkd.1 for ; Thu, 17 Dec 2015 11:34:17 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=ohlste-in.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=to:from:subject:message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=+eexXKgtiEo8T4XYK0XTPI43oyDQYBJymFauCkEV+pw=; b=D3aEJ3BNXXrYcsuGZivYg0RxcK5e9K+XZTjDZh7aVJUeb6rKrbOlKRlJhn5HQMJh8w 5wgNXssSFVhHaWvrTnXQWq3VA+9N2uU3vjIF74KZhz1ivJDJ6dIVAL2MiCbJ71EeTg+C 4elALuo1ruRUgbRKhymS/mAn9Xmy6BUxpVmTDXAVF1ZiP5Xxs7gz3y10qKcIC5mmwQjp RJo6CkbJHzLrDFJNdTnS0PmETOhYzkeMaD2wdDEKZBXwCE4tp3DrstDUg/oNDQG+dW+L ySjWbXinCWxZlAxbbkylFlY/Fb3Y24gVPBo+Oq1MuiXth81QnUupYOrfI5D0yHabsxKO 1WPw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:to:from:subject:message-id:date:user-agent :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=+eexXKgtiEo8T4XYK0XTPI43oyDQYBJymFauCkEV+pw=; b=RvCDWAmuDoz+BO+c/uVo8cr0T4o4MWlTlK+5tZWTnLrdFnXuOEP4Ololak7OUtnvVM SV+v6U/qHV/Ek25Ly60z7A09wXAlz5Nao4Onbq7MlQG5RX7oYiBqbaGuBjWEN4CKcO9h 7Jp4xnTC/oPTLIeH78UsmCZ2Dq5YzKNtYfOdWzPnYSCcHFWrrmiiIYkbtxqneCol8VhN +BV3o5wRcjhJvXO2OhCbeRUPDRC6kuThdDkg5AEWr+g1MDX21uCA+dKv1K5wtWEEqOXH LijZpW+tBkvI4ahN3JvCh/0ncN9XcZS1YkgiJSQP3FABDvCokxDKexX4zwtpUKnBHL9Z 77FA== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkiF+PRc92xQ+4t3BbSDU3PTcCGzbifFLqF95ZJ76rfZZ2xwyXbNKuZtZ0fvei0LD+J6RXVAebBJHBuP+MCmVz2Y8RCQQ== X-Received: by 10.55.71.76 with SMTP id u73mr71844898qka.6.1450380856026; Thu, 17 Dec 2015 11:34:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.11] (pool-96-249-243-37.nrflva.fios.verizon.net. [96.249.243.37]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id b7sm3836723qga.10.2015.12.17.11.34.15 for (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 17 Dec 2015 11:34:15 -0800 (PST) To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" From: Jim Ohlstein Subject: Spare drive becoming unavailable zpool Message-ID: <56730E36.1020508@ohlste.in> Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2015 14:34:14 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.11; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2015 19:34:17 -0000 Hello, I've recently set up a new system that will be used primarily as a file server. Install was 10.2-RELEASE with ZFS root. I upgraded to 11-CURRENT (r292334) to take advantage of the latest bhyve functionality. The machine has 12 SAS drives. I set up an 11 drive raidz-3 and set the last one as a spare. Twice I've seen the following after a reboot: # zpool status pool: zroot state: ONLINE scan: scrub repaired 0 in 0h18m with 0 errors on Tue Dec 15 23:42:25 2015 config: NAME STATE READ WRITE CKSUM zroot ONLINE 0 0 0 raidz3-0 ONLINE 0 0 0 gpt/disk0 ONLINE 0 0 0 gpt/disk1 ONLINE 0 0 0 gpt/disk2 ONLINE 0 0 0 gpt/disk3 ONLINE 0 0 0 gpt/disk4 ONLINE 0 0 0 gpt/disk5 ONLINE 0 0 0 gpt/disk6 ONLINE 0 0 0 gpt/disk7 ONLINE 0 0 0 gpt/disk8 ONLINE 0 0 0 gpt/disk9 ONLINE 0 0 0 gpt/disk10 ONLINE 0 0 0 spares 13907025268419731947 UNAVAIL was /dev/gpt/disk11 The spare has been changed to a long numeric string and is unavailable. I can remove it from the pool and re-add it as /dev/gpt/disk11 and things seem "normal" Once again it is available as a spare: # zpool status pool: zroot state: ONLINE scan: scrub repaired 0 in 0h18m with 0 errors on Tue Dec 15 23:42:25 2015 config: NAME STATE READ WRITE CKSUM zroot ONLINE 0 0 0 raidz3-0 ONLINE 0 0 0 gpt/disk0 ONLINE 0 0 0 gpt/disk1 ONLINE 0 0 0 gpt/disk2 ONLINE 0 0 0 gpt/disk3 ONLINE 0 0 0 gpt/disk4 ONLINE 0 0 0 gpt/disk5 ONLINE 0 0 0 gpt/disk6 ONLINE 0 0 0 gpt/disk7 ONLINE 0 0 0 gpt/disk8 ONLINE 0 0 0 gpt/disk9 ONLINE 0 0 0 gpt/disk10 ONLINE 0 0 0 spares gpt/disk11 AVAIL Nothing stands out in smartctl. I've never seen this behavior before. 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Thanks, Sonu From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Dec 18 02:13:59 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EC3DA4A1B5 for ; Fri, 18 Dec 2015 02:13:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from luzar722@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pf0-x22b.google.com (mail-pf0-x22b.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400e:c00::22b]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E9DC7149D for ; Fri, 18 Dec 2015 02:13:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from luzar722@gmail.com) Received: by mail-pf0-x22b.google.com with SMTP id 68so40439702pfc.1 for ; Thu, 17 Dec 2015 18:13:58 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=c9VPPiP/BQshKii0+9SR9lJLqvglcr8sZWLK6T7Nyzw=; b=r8uMY4Hf1BJvGTRbqN7B+0hY9JgtWcW2jOMfZw1ngfxqHhVpqciWDqTZughy1i52vh TUhIZXAAe9uyKHUOQXmwqgIwrcA2cGqtN9gTri9MaVDmJPA5XOgIN42w+QW2LTXAcSpv 5UBwkjGwdozbOs4uXkS22por8fHx+014FkOnvLUnS/Jg5cKVQkz66c8sQswR7V2yfJqy TL0r55iEPIHsAMhrUHwtS/LrHV0ScIKA3G01xrznwbXFXEDQSHkN3p2pAr4Cs7fGuxMk S4FgsLwS+8rIY1WrGKpSGWRmpGhxAdXJ0UioFlJzKQC0Ye4TeWKcwKZ+Mtez0jUuAfYD NJZQ== X-Received: by 10.98.87.4 with SMTP id l4mr1490363pfb.85.1450404838515; Thu, 17 Dec 2015 18:13:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.111.129] ([120.29.76.26]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id qy7sm18356387pab.37.2015.12.17.18.13.56 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 17 Dec 2015 18:13:57 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <56736BF9.3020803@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2015 10:14:17 +0800 From: Ernie Luzar User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: John McDonnell CC: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: POS system trashing hard drives during install References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2015 02:13:59 -0000 John McDonnell wrote: > I rescued a Point Of Sale system from recycling and had the bright idea to put it out on one of my kitchen counters with the intention of creating a kiosk of sorts to allow looking up recipes (I still need to search ports for some type of cookbook software though there are plenty of recipes available online as well) as well as perhaps providing some music as well. > > The print on the bottom lists the model name as POS System and model number as Frontier. The user manual I have says CobraPos 1370/1478, so not exactly sure which model it is, but I'm fairly certain it is only minor differences between the two after looking through the manual. The systems originally had 256 MB of RAM, a 40 GB hard drive, a 2 GHz Celeron processor, and a slim CD-ROM drive. (I'm not sure of the exact processor, but I have a couple more of these here at work so I could look it up if needed if I have time, or I can find out when I get home.) They originally ran Windows XP Professional on a 40 GB PATA hard drive. There is apparently SATA available somewhere, but I've not tried locating the ports on the motherboard yet but I've got that idea in the back of my head for something to possibly attempt in the future. It does not have any of the optional credit card readers or secondary displays, though it would be kind of cool to get the 2x20 VFD for a fun retro POS look, thoug > h the secondary smaller monitor that mounts in the same position would be prettier and both are moot since I won't be using this as an actual POS system, but perhaps if I decide to rescue one of the other units here... > > I upgraded the RAM to 1 GB (all I have laying around are sticks of DDR in 512 MB for the two sockets, but it will accept 1 GB sticks if I come across any, though I think we already recycled all of our PCs running DDR, and I don't recall seeing any that had 1 GB sticks in them anyway) and wanted to put FreeBSD on it instead of XP, so I dug out an 80 GB PATA hard drive for a bit of extra space and so I could save the XP hard drive as a backup of a running system. I'm going to try and dig through some of our old laptops that we haven't recycled yet and see if I can find at least a slim CDRW drive though I'm really looking for a DVD drive with the correct connectors, though I probably won't be using the drive at all after installation. I didn't take the 40 pin IDE and power adapter off the drive to get a good look, but the brief glance reminded me of the connector on an older (T40?) ThinkPad, which we've already recycled of course. > > I believe the disk I had on hand is a FreeBSD 10 disk, though I'm going to burn a 10.2 disk if I don't find one laying around already, though I don't think the difference between 10 and 10.2 will make any difference. I might even be better off going with an older version due to the installer defaults and then doing an update. Sorry for the long post so far, but here is where I'm running into my problem. The installer boots up and runs through the process perfectly fine. But upon rebooting after install, the system locks up. It runs the memory check and displays the connected IDE devices (the hard drive and CD-ROM drive) and the keyboard is still semi-responsive, I can hit Del or F9 and it will display "Entering BIOS" or "Loading Boot Device List" but that is all that happens. It doesn't actually go into the BIOS or do anything and CTRL+ALT+DEL doesn't restart the system, I have to hard power down. If I disconnect the hard drive at this point, the system boots fine. I pulle d the hard > drive out and connected it to my PC with an IDE to USB adapter and Windows won't initialize the drive and says there is an error with it. (ie I can't even re-format it in Windows, I know UFS wouldn't be available.) I thought well, maybe it was just bad timing and the drive just died. So I grabbed another 80 GB drive I had, checked it in my Windows machine and then put it into the POS. I had the same thing happen after the first reboot. I plugged it back into my Windows PC and once again, it can't do anything with the drive. So now I'm thinking maybe the system doesn't like GPT formatting and was doing something funny with it. So I grabbed another 80 GB drive and put it in and went through the manual process of using gpart to use MBR partitioning instead of GPT. But once again, I rebooted the system and it locked up the same way. I didn't plug this drive back into my Windows PC to see if it is trashed as well as it was 2 AM at this point and I was calling it a night. I thi nk I have o > ne more working 80 GB drive at home, but I'd really like some input on how to possibly get this working. And my other 80 GB drives might be salvageable somehow, perhaps plug into a system with onboard IDE connectors and try some low level utilities or something, but I'm not sure I have a system at home with that kind of setup anymore. > > Perhaps I'll try and find a BIOS update, but with all the extras added onto the motherboard internally, I'd be afraid of it not working afterwards unless I can verify it's specific for this POS system. (It's one of the weirdest layouts I've ever seen with the motherboard mounted behind the LCD monitor and some daughterboards connected via I have no idea what as I didn't go disconnecting any of them yet. One of them seems to have an additional VGA port on it but not connected to anything but does have a header that the speakers are connected to. I accidentally knocked them out of their mount in the case and have no idea if they are stereo or dual mono, but if stereo, I probably now have the left on the right and the right on the left... Then in the base of the system there's the power supply, hard drive, CD-ROM, an additional board providing access to a CF card slot, front USB ports, mic jack and power button and then another additional board in the back providing the rear IO panel wi > th its extra serial ports, LAN (which is a passthrough type of connector as there is an Ethernet cable that plugs into a jack on the board to go back to the motherboard along with the quite large ribbon cable that connects this board to the motherboard) some additional 12 volt power ports, parallel port, a 12 volt USB port and 24 volt USB port.) (I need to look into these powered USB ports which are apparently something of a standard for POS systems to provide data and power to cash drawers and printers and such without having to have extra power cords and such, it sort of looks like a dual USB port stack with a normal USB port on the bottom and the port on top is closer in size and a similar shape of a cat5 port but with a block in the middle with connectors like a larger USB port. I'm assuming the larger connectors for the higher voltage. The bottom USB port is standard size as I did try plugging a USB drive into it while it was off just to see if it fit. I'm thinking i t might ope > rate as a normal USB port and all the higher voltage runs through the adjoining port. I'll have to look it up later.) > > A thought I had this morning after getting into work was to perhaps attempt installing FreeBSD onto a hard drive on a machine here at work and then taking it home and try booting it there. Might be something weird the system does when formatting that makes it screwy. I know the system itself works as it runs with the Windows XP hard drive I have as backup. I'm open to suggestions, though I've kind of run out of hard drives for too much testing unless I can find some more, though I do have more 40 GB drives, which should be more than enough space for this machine really. > > Sorry for the really long post, but I tend to ramble a bit and I also wanted to make sure I included as much relevant information as I could think of. If you have questions about the hardware, I can check it out when I get home, or grab one of the other systems from work to look at here if I have some spare time. Hopefully since we've outsourced our e-mail, I can post to the mailing list from this address, but I'm still half expecting it to bounce since it is Office 365. > > Thank you in advance for any and all help you can provide with my problem and for all the help you've already provided from me reading the mailing list. > I would say your problem is with the hard drive and how its laid out. The POS pc being an older hardware system it uses the MBR (master boot record) formate. Freebsd 10.x releases do not use that format any more. Try doing a .iso cdrom install and this time do not take the hard drive default, instead select the MBR option. You can verify this as the cause by putting the 80gb H.D. you all ready installed 10.2 on into a newer pc that is running 10.0 or newer and it will boot ok. If I remember correctly the 7.x series defaulted to the MBR formate. There is one got ya, the HD you installed 10.x on is now formated with the new gpart boot formate. I do not know if the 10.x bsdinstaller MBR option will identify the HD has the gpart formate and issue the commands to delete that formate from the 80gb HD with 10.x installed on it You can run this little simple script called gpart.nuke to prepare the HD for MBR install method. #! /bin/sh echo "What disk do you want" echo "to wipe? For example - da1 :" read disk echo "OK, in 10 seconds I will destroy all data on $disk!" echo "Press CTRL+C to abort!" sleep 10 diskinfo ${disk} | while read disk sectorsize size sectors other do # Delete MBR and partition table. dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/${disk} bs=${sectorsize} count=1 # Delete GEOM metadata. dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/${disk} bs=${sectorsize} oseek=`expr $sectors - 2` count=2 done From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Dec 18 05:25:20 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C105A4A4E1 for ; Fri, 18 Dec 2015 05:25:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "wonkity.com", Issuer "wonkity.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0E766163D for ; Fri, 18 Dec 2015 05:25:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id tBI5PCMN050673 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 17 Dec 2015 22:25:12 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) with ESMTP id tBI5P9bK050670; Thu, 17 Dec 2015 22:25:12 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2015 22:25:09 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: John McDonnell cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: POS system trashing hard drives during install In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (BSF 67 2015-01-07) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Thu, 17 Dec 2015 22:25:12 -0700 (MST) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2015 05:25:20 -0000 On Thu, 17 Dec 2015, John McDonnell wrote: > The installer boots up and runs through the process perfectly fine. > But upon rebooting after install, the system locks up. It runs the > memory check and displays the connected IDE devices (the hard drive > and CD-ROM drive) and the keyboard is still semi-responsive, I can hit > Del or F9 and it will display "Entering BIOS" or "Loading Boot Device > List" but that is all that happens. It doesn't actually go into the > BIOS or do anything and CTRL+ALT+DEL doesn't restart the system, I > have to hard power down. If I disconnect the hard drive at this point, > the system boots fine. It took some looking to find this description of the problem in the post. Some systems do stupid things based on what they find on the hard disk. Lenovo and IBM before them did this, for example. Still do, in some cases. It is not just a GPT thing, they did stupid things with MBR partitions also. The idea that old systems can't boot from GPT is incorrect. GPT has the PMBR, a backwards-compatible MBR booting mechanism. Some systems require a system partition for the BIOS. Given that this is a custom system, there might be some kind of security information stored on the drive. If it were me, I would use gpart to look at the partitioning on the XP drive. It is likely MBR, but the number, type, and size of partitions could be a clue. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Dec 18 14:38:44 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C054FA4BA2B for ; Fri, 18 Dec 2015 14:38:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsduser@cloudzeeland.nl) Received: from ceto.cloudzeeland.nl (cloudzeeland.xs4all.nl [83.161.133.58]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "cloudzeeland.nl", Issuer "COMODO RSA Domain Validation Secure Server CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 85DE91EC0 for ; Fri, 18 Dec 2015 14:38:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsduser@cloudzeeland.nl) Received: from ceto.cloudzeeland.nl (ceto.cloudzeeland.nl [10.10.10.30]) by ceto.cloudzeeland.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBC8C47CAF65 for ; Fri, 18 Dec 2015 15:38:33 +0100 (CET) Received: from [10.10.10.33] (unknown [82.176.127.71]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by ceto.cloudzeeland.nl (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id B3D2C47CAF0E for ; Fri, 18 Dec 2015 15:38:33 +0100 (CET) To: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org" From: JosC Subject: Periodic output Message-ID: <56741A6B.2040008@cloudzeeland.nl> Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2015 15:38:35 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.4.0 X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP on ceto.cloudzeeland.nl MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2015 14:38:44 -0000 From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Dec 18 14:47:13 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64D39A4B0A7 for ; Fri, 18 Dec 2015 14:47:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jos@cloudzeeland.nl) Received: from ceto.cloudzeeland.nl (cloudzeeland.xs4all.nl [83.161.133.58]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "cloudzeeland.nl", Issuer "COMODO RSA Domain Validation Secure Server CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2B24E1575 for ; Fri, 18 Dec 2015 14:47:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jos@cloudzeeland.nl) Received: from ceto.cloudzeeland.nl (ceto.cloudzeeland.nl [10.10.10.30]) by ceto.cloudzeeland.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA14B47CAF65 for ; Fri, 18 Dec 2015 15:47:09 +0100 (CET) Received: from [10.10.10.33] (unknown [82.176.127.71]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by ceto.cloudzeeland.nl (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 988F247CAF0E for ; Fri, 18 Dec 2015 15:47:09 +0100 (CET) To: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org" From: Jos Chrispijn Subject: Periodic issue Message-ID: <56741C70.9030102@cloudzeeland.nl> Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2015 15:47:12 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP on ceto.cloudzeeland.nl X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2015 14:47:13 -0000 For some reason my periodic daily takes 2-3 hours to run. Don't have system issues or disk problems. Is this normal and how can I speed up things? Thanks, Jos Chrispijn From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Dec 18 15:03:04 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABFFAA4BB42 for ; Fri, 18 Dec 2015 15:03:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from trond@fagskolen.gjovik.no) Received: from smtp.fagskolen.gjovik.no (smtp.fagskolen.gjovik.no [IPv6:2001:700:1100:1:200:ff:fe00:b]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.fagskolen.gjovik.no", Issuer "Fagskolen i Gj??vik" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 476D61A39 for ; Fri, 18 Dec 2015 15:03:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from trond@fagskolen.gjovik.no) Received: from mail.fig.ol.no (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.fig.ol.no (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id tBIF2lBV069271 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 18 Dec 2015 16:02:47 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from trond@fagskolen.gjovik.no) Received: from localhost (trond@localhost) by mail.fig.ol.no (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) with ESMTP id tBIF2lit069268; Fri, 18 Dec 2015 16:02:47 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from trond@fagskolen.gjovik.no) X-Authentication-Warning: mail.fig.ol.no: trond owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2015 16:02:47 +0100 (CET) From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Trond_Endrest=F8l?= Sender: Trond.Endrestol@fagskolen.gjovik.no To: Jos Chrispijn cc: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org" Subject: Re: Periodic issue In-Reply-To: <56741C70.9030102@cloudzeeland.nl> Message-ID: References: <56741C70.9030102@cloudzeeland.nl> User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (BSF 67 2015-01-07) Organization: Fagskolen Innlandet OpenPGP: url=http://fig.ol.no/~trond/trond.key MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED, AWL autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on mail.fig.ol.no Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2015 15:03:04 -0000 On Fri, 18 Dec 2015 15:47+0100, Jos Chrispijn wrote: > For some reason my periodic daily takes 2-3 hours to run. > > Don't have system issues or disk problems. Is this normal and how can I speed > up things? More information is needed. I run BOINC on one of my computers, and I need to suspend the BOINC processes ahead of the periodic tasks, and let them resume their work afterwards. -- +-------------------------------+------------------------------------+ | Vennlig hilsen, | Best regards, | | Trond Endrestl, | Trond Endrestl, | | IT-ansvarlig, | System administrator, | | Fagskolen Innlandet, | Gjvik Technical College, Norway, | | tlf. mob. 952 62 567, | Cellular...: +47 952 62 567, | | sentralbord 61 14 54 00. | Switchboard: +47 61 14 54 00. | +-------------------------------+------------------------------------+ From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Dec 18 16:29:49 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2227A4C260 for ; Fri, 18 Dec 2015 16:29:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lobo1@abv.bg) Received: from smtp-out.abv.bg (smtp-out.abv.bg [194.153.145.80]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DD93144C for ; Fri, 18 Dec 2015 16:29:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lobo1@abv.bg) Received: from nm21.abv.bg (mail91.ni.bg [192.168.151.140]) by smtp-out.abv.bg (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47FDE56EF0E for ; Fri, 18 Dec 2015 18:23:17 +0200 (EET) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; s=smtp-out; d=abv.bg; c=simple; q=dns; b=cq0vdgrO/5DWlrm0PaUisn3yCqxYITsyWVUI8MhARNNuBjzbcSQ+kDR6oZvMxru7w alquNnsP+YWaUgdugpyrSpKCLFE3H/NFCZnoQcQ4z1/kp8lsgRBesUL4SgH+dTaAJoG pZmZ7tz+tfPm55TZXB/U5+MR2E41aS5rNDQ7zbc= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=abv.bg; s=smtp-out; t=1450455797; bh=d61e/+NVtwwWYsQOUCxfc2tK5vYJ/FbpLKbYFKpEINU=; h=Date:From:To:Message-ID:Subject:MIME-Version:Content-Type:DKIM; b=NVWTWq39fo3uHkKL3t1MBNyLZwIrwVNBkh+C3fwi2bs5vlE5WMvs7UH7HqlBC8hYm yxjPh5erS1AM9y5XprmMUX14x/3zZ5BevEA/0ulhi+VPnxTU3a5/RBdhuZQql9yzeZ fTFzFz44a1R3uLPCSzEn90QKKgpzOzZVRuxXk0OE= Received: from nm21.abv.bg (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nm21.abv.bg (Postfix) with ESMTP id 118EC120139 for ; Fri, 18 Dec 2015 18:23:17 +0200 (EET) Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2015 18:23:17 +0200 (EET) From: Georgi Manov To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <1171783145.1510695.1450455797069.JavaMail.apache@nm21.abv.bg> Subject: Kernel compile error MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AbvMail 3.0 X-Originating-IP: 31.24.216.150 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2015 16:29:49 -0000 Hello, I am very new to the BSD world(must say I've been loving it so far) and I am trying to compile my first kernel. After a long-long time of reading and configuring I hit on rocks and I can't go through. I already checked the forums, the mailing lists, the handbook and on google but I can't find anything about the issue I'm running into. So, I decided to put through question as advised in the handbook. In case you wonder why I've done this or that, and what's the purpose of this compile - it's entirely educational and experimental - all of the settings I've set I've checked with dmesg to make sure they exists(or don't exist). I'm not sure I'm allowed to attach files so, I've pasted the output here. I'm did a svnlite update . in /usr/src to make sure I'm using the latest version of the repo. Any help/guidance will be greatly appreciated. Here's my compilation error as a result of make buildkernel KERNCONF=KOPPARBERG /usr/src/sys/fs/devfs/devfs_vnops.c:67:26: error: static declaration of 'devfs_specops' follows non-static declaration static struct vop_vector devfs_specops; ^ /usr/src/sys/sys/vnode.h:824:26: note: previous definition is here extern struct vop_vector devfs_specops; ^ /usr/src/sys/fs/devfs/devfs_vnops.c:1767:26: error: static declaration of 'devfs_specops' follows non-static declaration static struct vop_vector devfs_specops = { ^ /usr/src/sys/sys/vnode.h:824:26: note: previous definition is here extern struct vop_vector devfs_specops; ^ 2 errors generated. *** Error code 1 Stop. make[2]: stopped in /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/KOPPARBERG *** Error code 1 Stop. make[1]: stopped in /usr/src *** Error code 1 Stop. make: stopped in /usr/src and here's my kernel config file(minus top comments): cpu HAMMER ident KOPPARBERG #makeoptions DEBUG=-g # Build kernel with gdb(1) debug symbols #makeoptions WITH_CTF=1 # Run ctfconvert(1) for DTrace support options SCHED_ULE # ULE scheduler options PREEMPTION # Enable kernel thread preemption options INET # InterNETworking options INET6 # IPv6 communications protocols options TCP_OFFLOAD # TCP offload options SCTP # Stream Control Transmission Protocol options FFS # Berkeley Fast Filesystem options SOFTUPDATES # Enable FFS soft updates support #options UFS_ACL # Support for access control lists #options UFS_DIRHASH # Improve performance on big directories #options UFS_GJOURNAL # Enable gjournal-based UFS journaling #options QUOTA # Enable disk quotas for UFS #options MD_ROOT # MD is a potential root device options NFSCL # New Network Filesystem Client options NFSD # New Network Filesystem Server options NFSLOCKD # Network Lock Manager options NFS_ROOT # NFS usable as /, requires NFSCL options MSDOSFS # MSDOS Filesystem #options CD9660 # ISO 9660 Filesystem options PROCFS # Process filesystem (requires PSEUDOFS) options PSEUDOFS # Pseudo-filesystem framework options GEOM_PART_GPT # GUID Partition Tables. #options GEOM_RAID # Soft RAID functionality. options GEOM_LABEL # Provides labelization #options COMPAT_FREEBSD32 # Compatible with i386 binaries #options COMPAT_FREEBSD4 # Compatible with FreeBSD4 #options COMPAT_FREEBSD5 # Compatible with FreeBSD5 #options COMPAT_FREEBSD6 # Compatible with FreeBSD6 #options COMPAT_FREEBSD7 # Compatible with FreeBSD7 #options SCSI_DELAY=5000 # Delay (in ms) before probing SCSI #options KTRACE # ktrace(1) support #options STACK # stack(9) support #options SYSVSHM # SYSV-style shared memory #options SYSVMSG # SYSV-style message queues #options SYSVSEM # SYSV-style semaphores options _KPOSIX_PRIORITY_SCHEDULING # POSIX P1003_1B real-time extensions options PRINTF_BUFR_SIZE=128 # Prevent printf output being interspersed. options KBD_INSTALL_CDEV # install a CDEV entry in /dev #options HWPMC_HOOKS # Necessary kernel hooks for hwpmc(4) options AUDIT # Security event auditing #options CAPABILITY_MODE # Capsicum capability mode #options CAPABILITIES # Capsicum capabilities options PROCDESC # Support for process descriptors options MAC # TrustedBSD MAC Framework #options KDTRACE_FRAME # Ensure frames are compiled in #options KDTRACE_HOOKS # Kernel DTrace hooks #options DDB_CTF # Kernel ELF linker loads CTF data options INCLUDE_CONFIG_FILE # Include this file in kernel options RACCT # Resource accounting framework options RACCT_DEFAULT_TO_DISABLED # Set kern.racct.enable=0 by default options RCTL # Resource limits # Debugging support. Always need this: #options KDB # Enable kernel debugger support. #options KDB_TRACE # Print a stack trace for a panic. # Make an SMP-capable kernel by default options SMP # Symmetric MultiProcessor Kernel # CPU frequency control device cpufreq # Bus support. device acpi options ACPI_DMAR device pci # Floppy drives #device fdc # ATA controllers device ahci # AHCI-compatible SATA controllers #device ata # Legacy ATA/SATA controllers #options ATA_STATIC_ID # Static device numbering #device mvs # Marvell 88SX50XX/88SX60XX/88SX70XX/SoC SATA #device siis # SiliconImage SiI3124/SiI3132/SiI3531 SATA # SCSI Controllers #device ahc # AHA2940 and onboard AIC7xxx devices #options AHC_REG_PRETTY_PRINT # Print register bitfields in debug # output. Adds ~128k to driver. #device ahd # AHA39320/29320 and onboard AIC79xx devices #options AHD_REG_PRETTY_PRINT # Print register bitfields in debug # output. Adds ~215k to driver. #device esp # AMD Am53C974 (Tekram DC-390(T)) #device hptiop # Highpoint RocketRaid 3xxx series #device isp # Qlogic family #device ispfw # Firmware for QLogic HBAs- normally a module #device mpt # LSI-Logic MPT-Fusion #device mps # LSI-Logic MPT-Fusion 2 #device mpr # LSI-Logic MPT-Fusion 3 #device ncr # NCR/Symbios Logic #device sym # NCR/Symbios Logic (newer chipsets + those of `ncr') #device trm # Tekram DC395U/UW/F DC315U adapters #device adv # Advansys SCSI adapters #device adw # Advansys wide SCSI adapters #device aic # Adaptec 15[012]x SCSI adapters, AIC-6[23]60. #device bt # Buslogic/Mylex MultiMaster SCSI adapters #device isci # Intel C600 SAS controller # ATA/SCSI peripherals #device scbus # SCSI bus (required for ATA/SCSI) #device ch # SCSI media changers device da # Direct Access (disks) #device sa # Sequential Access (tape etc) #device cd # CD #device pass # Passthrough device (direct ATA/SCSI access) #device ses # Enclosure Services (SES and SAF-TE) #device ctl # CAM Target Layer # RAID controllers interfaced to the SCSI subsystem #device amr # AMI MegaRAID #device arcmsr # Areca SATA II RAID #XXX it is not 64-bit clean, -scottl #device asr # DPT SmartRAID V, VI and Adaptec SCSI RAID #device ciss # Compaq Smart RAID 5* #device dpt # DPT Smartcache III, IV - See NOTES for options #device hptmv # Highpoint RocketRAID 182x #device hptnr # Highpoint DC7280, R750 #device hptrr # Highpoint RocketRAID 17xx, 22xx, 23xx, 25xx #device hpt27xx # Highpoint RocketRAID 27xx #device iir # Intel Integrated RAID #device ips # IBM (Adaptec) ServeRAID #device mly # Mylex AcceleRAID/eXtremeRAID #device twa # 3ware 9000 series PATA/SATA RAID #device tws # LSI 3ware 9750 SATA+SAS 6Gb/s RAID controller # RAID controllers #device aac # Adaptec FSA RAID #device aacp # SCSI passthrough for aac (requires CAM) #device aacraid # Adaptec by PMC RAID #device ida # Compaq Smart RAID #device mfi # LSI MegaRAID SAS #device mlx # Mylex DAC960 family #device mrsas # LSI/Avago MegaRAID SAS/SATA, 6Gb/s and 12Gb/s #XXX PCI ID conflicts with ahd(4) and mvs(4) #device pmspcv # PMC-Sierra SAS/SATA Controller driver #XXX pointer/int warnings #device pst # Promise Supertrak SX6000 #device twe # 3ware ATA RAID # NVM Express (NVMe) support #device nvme # base NVMe driver #device nvd # expose NVMe namespaces as disks, depends on nvme # atkbdc0 controls both the keyboard and the PS/2 mouse device atkbdc # AT keyboard controller device atkbd # AT keyboard #device psm # PS/2 mouse #device kbdmux # keyboard multiplexer device vga # VGA video card driver options VESA # Add support for VESA BIOS Extensions (VBE) #device splash # Splash screen and screen saver support # syscons is the default console driver, resembling an SCO console #device sc #options SC_PIXEL_MODE # add support for the raster text mode # vt is the new video console driver device vt device vt_vga# PCCARD (PCMCIA) support # PCMCIA and cardbus bridge support #device cbb # cardbus (yenta) bridge #device pccard # PC Card (16-bit) bus #device cardbus # CardBus (32-bit) bus # Serial (COM) ports #device uart # Generic UART driver # Parallel port #device ppc #device ppbus # Parallel port bus (required) #device lpt # Printer #device ppi # Parallel port interface device #device vpo # Requires scbus and da #device puc # Multi I/O cards and multi-channel UARTs # PCI Ethernet NICs. #device bxe # Broadcom NetXtreme II BCM5771X/BCM578XX 10GbE #device de # DEC/Intel DC21x4x (``Tulip'') #device em # Intel PRO/1000 Gigabit Ethernet Family #device igb # Intel PRO/1000 PCIE Server Gigabit Family #device ix # Intel PRO/10GbE PCIE PF Ethernet #device ixv # Intel PRO/10GbE PCIE VF Ethernet #device ixl # Intel XL710 40Gbe PCIE Ethernet #device ixlv # Intel XL710 40Gbe VF PCIE Ethernet #device le # AMD Am7900 LANCE and Am79C9xx PCnet #device ti # Alteon Networks Tigon I/II gigabit Ethernet #device txp # 3Com 3cR990 (``Typhoon'') #device vx # 3Com 3c590, 3c595 (``Vortex'') # PCI Ethernet NICs that use the common MII bus controller code. # NOTE: Be sure to keep the 'device miibus' line in order to use these NICs! device miibus # MII bus support #device ae # Attansic/Atheros L2 FastEthernet #device age # Attansic/Atheros L1 Gigabit Ethernet #device alc # Atheros AR8131/AR8132 Ethernet #device ale # Atheros AR8121/AR8113/AR8114 Ethernet #device bce # Broadcom BCM5706/BCM5708 Gigabit Ethernet #device bfe # Broadcom BCM440x 10/100 Ethernet #device bge # Broadcom BCM570xx Gigabit Ethernet #device cas # Sun Cassini/Cassini+ and NS DP83065 Saturn #device dc # DEC/Intel 21143 and various workalikes #device et # Agere ET1310 10/100/Gigabit Ethernet #device fxp # Intel EtherExpress PRO/100B (82557, 82558) #device gem # Sun GEM/Sun ERI/Apple GMAC #device hme # Sun HME (Happy Meal Ethernet) #device jme # JMicron JMC250 Gigabit/JMC260 Fast Ethernet #device lge # Level 1 LXT1001 gigabit Ethernet #device msk # Marvell/SysKonnect Yukon II Gigabit Ethernet #device nfe # nVidia nForce MCP on-board Ethernet #device nge # NatSemi DP83820 gigabit Ethernet #device nve # nVidia nForce MCP on-board Ethernet Networking #device pcn # AMD Am79C97x PCI 10/100 (precedence over 'le') device re # RealTek 8139C+/8169/8169S/8110S #device rl # RealTek 8129/8139 #device sf # Adaptec AIC-6915 (``Starfire'') #device sge # Silicon Integrated Systems SiS190/191 #device sis # Silicon Integrated Systems SiS 900/SiS 7016 #device sk # SysKonnect SK-984x & SK-982x gigabit Ethernet #device ste # Sundance ST201 (D-Link DFE-550TX) #device stge # Sundance/Tamarack TC9021 gigabit Ethernet #device tl # Texas Instruments ThunderLAN #device tx # SMC EtherPower II (83c170 ``EPIC'') #device vge # VIA VT612x gigabit Ethernet #device vr # VIA Rhine, Rhine II #device wb # Winbond W89C840F #device xl # 3Com 3c90x (``Boomerang'', ``Cyclone'') # ISA Ethernet NICs. pccard NICs included. #device cs # Crystal Semiconductor CS89x0 NIC # 'device ed' requires 'device miibus' #device ed # NE[12]000, SMC Ultra, 3c503, DS8390 cards #device ex # Intel EtherExpress Pro/10 and Pro/10+ #device ep # Etherlink III based cards #device fe # Fujitsu MB8696x based cards #device sn # SMC's 9000 series of Ethernet chips #device xe # Xircom pccard Ethernet # Wireless NIC cards #device wlan # 802.11 support #options IEEE80211_DEBUG # enable debug msgs #options IEEE80211_AMPDU_AGE # age frames in AMPDU reorder q's #options IEEE80211_SUPPORT_MESH # enable 802.11s draft support #device wlan_wep # 802.11 WEP support #device wlan_ccmp # 802.11 CCMP support #device wlan_tkip # 802.11 TKIP support #device wlan_amrr # AMRR transmit rate control algorithm #device an # Aironet 4500/4800 802.11 wireless NICs. #device ath # Atheros NICs #device ath_pci # Atheros pci/cardbus glue #device ath_hal # pci/cardbus chip support #options AH_SUPPORT_AR5416 # enable AR5416 tx/rx descriptors #options AH_AR5416_INTERRUPT_MITIGATION # AR5416 interrupt mitigation #options ATH_ENABLE_11N # Enable 802.11n support for AR5416 and later #device ath_rate_sample # SampleRate tx rate control for ath #device bwi # Broadcom BCM430x/BCM431x wireless NICs. #device bwn # Broadcom BCM43xx wireless NICs. #device ipw # Intel 2100 wireless NICs. #device iwi # Intel 2200BG/2225BG/2915ABG wireless NICs. #device iwn # Intel 4965/1000/5000/6000 wireless NICs. #device malo # Marvell Libertas wireless NICs. #device mwl # Marvell 88W8363 802.11n wireless NICs. #device ral # Ralink Technology RT2500 wireless NICs. #device wi # WaveLAN/Intersil/Symbol 802.11 wireless NICs. #device wpi # Intel 3945ABG wireless NICs. # Pseudo devices. device loop # Network loopback device random # Entropy device #device padlock_rng # VIA Padlock RNG #device rdrand_rng # Intel Bull Mountain RNG device ether # Ethernet support device vlan # 802.1Q VLAN support device tun # Packet tunnel. #device md # Memory "disks" device gif # IPv6 and IPv4 tunneling device faith # IPv6-to-IPv4 relaying (translation) device firmware # firmware assist module # The `bpf' device enables the Berkeley Packet Filter. # Be aware of the administrative consequences of enabling this! # Note that 'bpf' is required for DHCP. device bpf # Berkeley packet filter # USB support #options USB_DEBUG # enable debug msgs #device uhci # UHCI PCI->USB interface device ohci # OHCI PCI->USB interface device ehci # EHCI PCI->USB interface (USB 2.0) device xhci # XHCI PCI->USB interface (USB 3.0) device usb # USB Bus (required) device ukbd # Keyboard device umass # Disks/Mass storage - Requires scbus and da # Sound support device sound # Generic sound driver (required) #device snd_cmi # CMedia CMI8338/CMI8738 #device snd_csa # Crystal Semiconductor CS461x/428x #device snd_emu10kx # Creative SoundBlaster Live! and Audigy #device snd_es137x # Ensoniq AudioPCI ES137x device snd_hda # Intel High Definition Audio #device snd_ich # Intel, NVidia and other ICH AC'97 Audio #device snd_via8233 # VIA VT8233x Audio # MMC/SD #device mmc # MMC/SD bus #device mmcsd # MMC/SD memory card #device sdhci # Generic PCI SD Host Controller # VirtIO support #device virtio # Generic VirtIO bus (required) #device virtio_pci # VirtIO PCI device #device vtnet # VirtIO Ethernet device #device virtio_blk # VirtIO Block device #device virtio_scsi # VirtIO SCSI device #device virtio_balloon # VirtIO Memory Balloon device # HyperV drivers and enchancement support # NOTE: HYPERV depends on hyperv. They must be added or removed together. #options HYPERV # Hyper-V kernel infrastructure #device hyperv # HyperV drivers # Xen HVM Guest Optimizations # NOTE: XENHVM depends on xenpci. They must be added or removed together. #options XENHVM # Xen HVM kernel infrastructure #device xenpci # Xen HVM Hypervisor services driver # VMware support #device vmx # VMware VMXNET3 Ethernet # My custom options device amdtemp # AMD Temperature sensor #device aesni # AES-NI OpenCrypto module options MAXMEM=(23664*1024) # Max Memory 24GB options MAXCPU=8 # Set Max CPUs to the default for the current cpu(8) #options COMPAT_LINUX # Add linux compatibility enabled by default options LINPROCFS # Add linux procfs makeoptions DESTDIR=/tmp # Set testdir options GEOM_ELI # enable ELI options FUSE # enable FUSE by default options AUTOFS # Automounter filesystem options FDESCFS # File descriptor filesystem options TMPFS # Efficient memory filesystem options SHMALL=32768 # Set Maximum number of shared memory pages system wide. options SHMMAX=67108864 # Set Maximum size, in bytes, of a single System V shared memory region options PANIC_REBOOT_WAIT_TIME=-1 # If kernel panic occurs, wait until key pressed to restart... device vt_efifb #device agp # support several AGP chipsets --- Thank you in advance, Georgi Just because you're paranoid, don't mean they're not after you... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Dec 18 18:05:32 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CB79A4936E for ; Fri, 18 Dec 2015 18:05:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mcdonnjd@pcam.org) Received: from na01-bl2-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com (mail-bl2on0121.outbound.protection.outlook.com [65.55.169.121]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mail.protection.outlook.com", Issuer "MSIT Machine Auth CA 2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B97491A7C for ; Fri, 18 Dec 2015 18:05:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mcdonnjd@pcam.org) Received: from BLUPR07MB321.namprd07.prod.outlook.com (10.141.25.14) by BLUPR07MB321.namprd07.prod.outlook.com (10.141.25.14) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.1.361.13; Fri, 18 Dec 2015 18:05:22 +0000 Received: from BLUPR07MB321.namprd07.prod.outlook.com ([169.254.13.26]) by BLUPR07MB321.namprd07.prod.outlook.com ([169.254.13.26]) with mapi id 15.01.0361.006; Fri, 18 Dec 2015 18:05:22 +0000 From: John McDonnell To: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: POS system trashing hard drives during install Thread-Topic: POS system trashing hard drives during install Thread-Index: AdE42/YAUl1Y0GLdSvaQohL1/K9PRAAXdYSAAAD1z/AAIEGVrA== Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2015 18:05:22 +0000 Message-ID: References: , <56736BF9.3020803@gmail.com>, In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: authentication-results: spf=none (sender IP is ) smtp.mailfrom=mcdonnjd@pcam.org; x-originating-ip: [52.34.154.136] x-microsoft-exchange-diagnostics: 1; BLUPR07MB321; 5:UPZ6OaAohhTBPpQXUiLgxtqcXer6IK95mMbgR+ikcEw6VqJh24hFJ2agKA12RRVf0ADG+8ceWZYqAumgDym2JuRw5gYuJxuL/dXbki3ZtJop3qpNgK2dJ7RtcSS9nG92e+61bqQUPjp1al7mT2xhaA==; 24:WASCACV0ffhtldBe9XpLibZLEFUyUe3ArMUQOU/2NlfeiAPx5yNCMGZQQ3NXOtiMM8npAhVzE/+S5PyhR4hEmq15T7JR/8f9rLHp1+g+UAs=; 20:d8/4qpLgxfkyAp58BeQRuaRiLTbsYHL3fao77rMJsi+EnSTFOthfbVXMy47W2JXI5IDxmYZ3U4VOzXrh4fxW6W+D7m09//qWXu9hgSRljaitvn/HE9rPZtWyLeyifdo1uwOAHFBig6tK6JuNL31gwVEk4QnjFrx5/HPB57BE2gI= x-microsoft-antispam: UriScan:;BCL:0;PCL:0;RULEID:;SRVR:BLUPR07MB321; x-microsoft-antispam-prvs: x-exchange-antispam-report-test: UriScan:(192713067249063); x-exchange-antispam-report-cfa-test: BCL:0; PCL:0; RULEID:(601004)(2401047)(520078)(5005006)(8121501046)(3002001)(10201501046); SRVR:BLUPR07MB321; BCL:0; PCL:0; RULEID:; SRVR:BLUPR07MB321; x-forefront-prvs: 07943272E1 x-forefront-antispam-report: SFV:NSPM; SFS:(10019020)(22974007)(377454003)(199003)(189002)(52044002)(15975445007)(10400500002)(5008740100001)(586003)(19580395003)(19580405001)(15395725005)(1220700001)(1096002)(86362001)(122556002)(6116002)(450100001)(16236675004)(102836003)(3846002)(40100003)(101416001)(11100500001)(87936001)(106356001)(99286002)(110136002)(189998001)(5004730100002)(97736004)(66066001)(107886002)(92566002)(19617315012)(105586002)(2900100001)(15198665003)(81156007)(5001960100002)(2950100001)(54356999)(76176999)(5002640100001)(50986999); DIR:OUT; SFP:1102; SCL:1; SRVR:BLUPR07MB321; H:BLUPR07MB321.namprd07.prod.outlook.com; FPR:; SPF:None; PTR:InfoNoRecords; A:0; MX:1; LANG:en; received-spf: None (protection.outlook.com: pcam.org does not designate permitted sender hosts) spamdiagnosticoutput: 1:23 spamdiagnosticmetadata: NSPM MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginatorOrg: pcam.org X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-originalarrivaltime: 18 Dec 2015 18:05:22.4454 (UTC) X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-fromentityheader: Hosted X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-id: 4d0a72ee-ba26-46d5-8bbe-6430f01b636a X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: BLUPR07MB321 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2015 18:05:32 -0000 Just realized I replied directly instead of to the list. Sending this into = the list this time. -- John McDonnell mcdonnjd@pcam.org Sent from Outlook Mobile ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: "John McDonnell" > Date: Thu, Dec 17, 2015 at 6:41 PM -0800 Subject: Re: POS system trashing hard drives during install To: "luzar722@gmail.com" > From: Ernie Luzar Sent: Thursday, December 17, 9:14 PM Subject: Re: POS system trashing hard drives during install To: John McDonnell Cc: FreeBSD Questions I would say your problem is with the hard drive and how its laid out. The P= OS pc being an older hardware system it uses the MBR (master boot record) f= ormate. Freebsd 10.x releases do not use that format any more. Try doing a = .iso cdrom install and this time do not take the hard drive default, instea= d select the MBR option. You can verify this as the cause by putting the 80= gb H.D. you all ready installed 10.2 on into a newer pc that is running 10.= 0 or newer and it will boot ok. If I remember correctly the 7.x series defa= ulted to the MBR formate. There is one got ya, the HD you installed 10.x on= is now formated with the new gpart boot formate. I do not know if the 10.x= bsdinstaller MBR option will identify the HD has the gpart formate and iss= ue the commands to delete that formate from the 80gb HD with 10.x installed= on it You can run this little simple script called gpart.nuke to prepare t= he HD for MBR install method. #! /bin/sh echo "What disk do you want" echo = "to wipe? For example - da1 :" read disk echo "OK, in 10 seconds I will des= troy all data on $disk!" echo "Press CTRL+C to abort!" sleep 10 diskinfo ${= disk} | while read disk sectorsize size sectors other do # Delete MBR and p= artition table. dd if=3D/dev/zero of=3D/dev/${disk} bs=3D${sectorsize} coun= t=3D1 # Delete GEOM metadata. dd if=3D/dev/zero of=3D/dev/${disk} bs=3D${se= ctorsize} oseek=3D`expr $sectors - 2` count=3D2 done Sorry for not inline posting, but I don't think I can do that on this mobil= e app. As I mentioned, the last time I attempted to install FreeBSD on this machin= e, I did use MBR partitioning. And this was on a hard drive that I had veri= fied had MBR partitions on it. Though thinking back, I'm not sure I did a gpart destroy on the drive first= , so the installer may have created a GPT container on it before I started.= I've not had a chance to do anything with this today and won't be able to = get back to it until tomorrow at the earliest and maybe not until next week= . My Windows PC that I was hooking the failed hard drives up to in order to c= heck the drives should have been able to initialize and reformat the hard d= rive, but it wouldn't do that, but it may be an issue with the IDE to USB a= dapter I was using. (That machine does recognize GPT and actually has Windo= ws installed that way.) I'm thinking the easiest thing to do is going to be to put the drive in ano= ther PC and install there and then put that drive into my POS. But feel free to offer other suggestions as I won't be able to get to this = very soon. -- John McDonnell mcdonnjd@pcam.org Sent from Outlook Mobile From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Dec 18 18:32:49 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14250A4B80E for ; Fri, 18 Dec 2015 18:32:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jeremy.gransden@gmail.com) Received: from mail-io0-x230.google.com (mail-io0-x230.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c06::230]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E632A1CD9 for ; Fri, 18 Dec 2015 18:32:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jeremy.gransden@gmail.com) Received: by mail-io0-x230.google.com with SMTP id e126so98500054ioa.1 for ; Fri, 18 Dec 2015 10:32:48 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=RIwi+zMU9x5AJN18cIA0BPo1zqQapKP9RRBceg7xzy0=; b=CZwDV8CmaPLc29NDXzkMd89JTLsj2jDO/7SdnUSd6QULdlB3K+alB5RL7v9Cug3tZJ WWSdcUoE+WhHnhgkO37wVL22P4NqKVvuGsbrDrAWvMPE3eEPbVn435Xo1cDPtDEXtp7L DsCb485yM9iKBGi9/nRfaEWTYD7cvoecfk6NNXrmfsEDQQTyF2tR4ACk3RhlKaHDPvcE /lqWrJBNc3BPD+LfEk0P75axk9MQh+ldrZgs3i3rXS9xZkPHHtd4Mvznj6iCn4mmchjY C2rYG06nI0wcfuVrYpEQ8KBTMpn+tbK1+ARyDNOeGRpQ30yn00ea5gKKPdTMtwBP/cLD pxvQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.107.39.130 with SMTP id n124mr7162143ion.159.1450463568021; Fri, 18 Dec 2015 10:32:48 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.107.7.38 with HTTP; Fri, 18 Dec 2015 10:32:47 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2015 13:32:47 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Mirroring samba file server. From: Jeremy Gransden To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2015 18:32:49 -0000 I have a network with 8 remote sites. 7 of the 8 can use the main samba file server without much issue with latency. I have one location where the latency is really high. I was thinking of adding a 2nd samba server in that location and mirroring the 1st one. Has anyone done a setup similar to this? What should I use to sync the 2 servers? Both servers will be running FreeBSD 10.2 on ZFS. Would zfs send/receive work on live data or would rsync be better? thanks for your help, j From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Dec 18 18:57:26 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 674EAA4C7A9; Fri, 18 Dec 2015 18:57:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dweimer@dweimer.net) Received: from webmail.dweimer.net (24-240-198-187.static.stls.mo.charter.com [24.240.198.187]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1FBF31D12; Fri, 18 Dec 2015 18:57:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dweimer@dweimer.net) Received: from webmail.dweimer.local (localhost [192.168.5.2]) by webmail.dweimer.net (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id tBIIvHvH082482 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 18 Dec 2015 12:57:17 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dweimer@dweimer.net) Received: (from www@localhost) by webmail.dweimer.local (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id tBIIvHPW082481; Fri, 18 Dec 2015 12:57:17 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dweimer@dweimer.net) X-Authentication-Warning: webmail.dweimer.local: www set sender to dweimer@dweimer.net using -f To: Jeremy Gransden Subject: Re: Mirroring samba file server. X-PHP-Script: www.dweimer.net/webmail/index.php for 71.86.41.122, 192.168.5.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2015 12:57:17 -0600 From: dweimer Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Organization: dweimer.net Reply-To: dweimer@dweimer.net Mail-Reply-To: dweimer@dweimer.net In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <54e56a60ef4e4b51fbdc137f037a60c0@dweimer.net> X-Sender: dweimer@dweimer.net User-Agent: Roundcube Webmail/1.1.3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2015 18:57:26 -0000 On 2015-12-18 12:32 pm, Jeremy Gransden wrote: > I have a network with 8 remote sites. 7 of the 8 can use the main > samba file server without much issue with latency. I have one location > where the latency is really high. I was thinking of adding a 2nd samba > server in that location and mirroring the 1st one. Has anyone done a > setup similar to this? What should I use to sync the 2 servers? Both > servers will be running FreeBSD 10.2 on ZFS. Would zfs send/receive > work on live data or would rsync be better? > > > thanks for your help, > j You need to describe more about what you are trying to do, I don't believe neither ZFS send/receive or rsync will work if you want to be able to edit data on both and keep them in sync. However if the remote server is going to serve read only reference data for the site, and changes are only made to the parent they will work. However ZFS may require the receiving dataset to be dismounted in order to receive the changes, but I could be wrong. You may also want to look at /usr/ports/net/unison: cat /usr/ports/net/unison/pkg-descr Unison is a file-synchronization tool for Unix and Windows. It allows two replicas of a collection of files and directories to be stored on different hosts (or different disks on the same host), modified separately, and then brought up to date by propagating the changes in each replica to the other. Unison shares a number of features with tools such as configuration management packages (CVS, PRCS, etc.) distributed filesystems (Coda, etc.) uni-directional mirroring utilities (rsync, etc.) and other synchronizers (Intellisync, Reconcile, etc). -- Thanks, Dean E. Weimer http://www.dweimer.net/ From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Dec 18 21:29:54 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB4B8A4C321 for ; Fri, 18 Dec 2015 21:29:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from smarthost1.sentex.ca (smarthost1.sentex.ca [IPv6:2607:f3e0:0:1::12]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "smarthost.sentex.ca", Issuer "smarthost.sentex.ca" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id ABA341A84 for ; Fri, 18 Dec 2015 21:29:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from [IPv6:2607:f3e0:0:4:f025:8813:7603:7e4a] (saphire3.sentex.ca [IPv6:2607:f3e0:0:4:f025:8813:7603:7e4a]) by smarthost1.sentex.ca (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id tBILTsQw075066 for ; Fri, 18 Dec 2015 16:29:54 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Subject: Re: sftp, syslog level, chrooted users in a jail To: freebsd-questions References: <5671882E.3040509@sentex.net> From: Mike Tancsa Organization: Sentex Communications Message-ID: <56747ACB.40502@sentex.net> Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2015 16:29:47 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <5671882E.3040509@sentex.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.75 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2015 21:29:55 -0000 On 12/16/2015 10:50 AM, Mike Tancsa wrote: > > In the dev directory, if I make > # ls -l /home/test1sftp/dev/ > total 2 > drwxrwxr-x 2 root wheel uarch 4 Dec 16 10:37 . > drwxr-xr-x 5 root wheel uarch 5 Dec 16 10:04 .. > srw-rw-rw- 2 root wheel uarch 0 Dec 16 10:05 log > srw------- 2 root wheel uarch 0 Dec 16 10:05 logpriv > > > > ln /var/run/logpriv logpriv > ln /var/run/log log > > I can get it to work. OK, next problem. If syslogd stops and is restarted, the hardlinks to /var/run/log go away. I have to delete the links I created and recreate them. Symlinks dont work. Any other way around this ? ---Mike -- ------------------- Mike Tancsa, tel +1 519 651 3400 Sentex Communications, mike@sentex.net Providing Internet services since 1994 www.sentex.net Cambridge, Ontario Canada http://www.tancsa.com/ From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Dec 18 21:44:35 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91F34A4CC4C for ; Fri, 18 Dec 2015 21:44:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ben.lavery@hashbang0.com) Received: from sender163-mail.zoho.com (sender163-mail.zoho.com [74.201.84.163]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6C9F5150A for ; Fri, 18 Dec 2015 21:44:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ben.lavery@hashbang0.com) Received: from mail.zoho.com by mx.zohomail.com with SMTP id 145047505711215.573861680499135; 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Fri, 18 Dec 2015 13:57:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.200.7] ([120.29.76.2]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id c63sm19806337pfd.50.2015.12.18.13.57.01 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 18 Dec 2015 13:57:02 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <56748142.4030907@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2015 05:57:22 +0800 From: Ernie Luzar User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mike Tancsa CC: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: sftp, syslog level, chrooted users in a jail References: <5671882E.3040509@sentex.net> In-Reply-To: <5671882E.3040509@sentex.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2015 21:57:04 -0000 Mike Tancsa wrote: > I am trying to increase the verbosity of sftp's syslog, but am running > into a problem because the users are chrooted and ssh is running in a jail. > > My setup -- simple qjail with defaults > > I have inside, the user > > test1sftp:*:1002:1002:User &:/home/test1:/bin/false > > and in /etc/ssh/sshd_config I have > > Match user * > ChrootDirectory %h > ForceCommand internal-sftp -l debug1 > AllowTcpForwarding no > PermitTunnel no > X11Forwarding no > > /home/test1sftp > > # ls -l /home/test1sftp > total 27 > drwxr-xr-x 5 root wheel uarch 5 Dec 16 10:04 . > drwxrwxr-x 2 root wheel uarch 4 Dec 16 10:37 dev > drwxr-xr-x 3 test1sftp test1sftp uarch 6 Dec 16 10:37 uploadhere > > > In the dev directory, if I make > # ls -l /home/test1sftp/dev/ > total 2 > drwxrwxr-x 2 root wheel uarch 4 Dec 16 10:37 . > drwxr-xr-x 5 root wheel uarch 5 Dec 16 10:04 .. > srw-rw-rw- 2 root wheel uarch 0 Dec 16 10:05 log > srw------- 2 root wheel uarch 0 Dec 16 10:05 logpriv > > > > ln /var/run/logpriv logpriv > ln /var/run/log log > > I can get it to work. > > > 10:44:58 sshd > 10:44:58 sshd: Accepted publickey for test1sftp from xxxx port 30534 > ssh2: RSA 51:2e:.... > 10:44:58 sshd: User child is on pid 83522 > 10:44:58 sshd: Changed root directory to "/home/test1sftp" > 10:44:58 sshd: Starting session: forced-command (config) 'internal-sftp > -l verbose' for test1sftp from xxx port 30534 > 10:44:58 internal-sftp > 10:44:58 internal-sftp: received client version 3 > 10:44:58 internal-sftp: realpath "." > 10:45:00 /usr/sbin/cron: (root) CMD (/usr/libexec/atrun) > 10:45:02 internal-sftp: realpath "/uploadhere" > 10:45:02 internal-sftp: stat name "/uploadhere" > 10:45:04 internal-sftp: opendir "/uploadhere/" > 10:45:04 internal-sftp: closedir "/uploadhere/" > 10:45:04 internal-sftp: lstat name "/uploadhere/valid-ip.c" > 10:45:04 internal-sftp: lstat name "/uploadhere/valid-ip.c" > 10:45:04 internal-sftp: remove name "/uploadhere/valid-ip.c" > 10:45:09 internal-sftp: open "/uploadhere/valid-ip.c" flags > WRITE,CREATE,TRUNCATE mode 0644 > 10:45:09 internal-sftp: close "/uploadhere/valid-ip.c" bytes read 0 > written 615 > 10:45:10 internal-sftp: opendir "/uploadhere" > 10:45:10 internal-sftp: closedir "/uploadhere" > 10:45:11 internal-sftp > 10:45:11 sshd: Received disconnect from xxxx: 11: disconnected by user > > > I have a few hundred users. Apart from creating dev/log hard links for > every home directory, is there a different way to go about this ? > > Are there any security issues I need to be aware of ? > > ---Mike > Let me be sure I understand your setup correctly, ssh, sftp, and all the users are defined in the same jail. In the jail remove ChrootDirectory %h option from sshd_config. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Dec 18 22:12:26 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 643E9A4BD64 for ; Fri, 18 Dec 2015 22:12:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lobo1@abv.bg) Received: from smtp-out.abv.bg (smtp-out.abv.bg [194.153.145.80]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21CD417B2 for ; Fri, 18 Dec 2015 22:12:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lobo1@abv.bg) Received: from nm21.abv.bg (mail91.ni.bg [192.168.151.140]) by smtp-out.abv.bg (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CFD256EEFC; Sat, 19 Dec 2015 00:12:23 +0200 (EET) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; s=smtp-out; d=abv.bg; c=simple; q=dns; b=g+w1Bc3XUh0cIGUC4Zpw8tOh4sW+BrpzXnrRM6hwbrSr3EIt4ZN5VgUIK0oaZxC0r te0ScV4vfmzVZCINnacnWMQwPu1UYx1ftJj9ZRe/Y05scf3PUJlhTJdLs7W/GaseKZw XugbsQrPd7btQA9dzW3AYYdwYB2SULWT/1M72lg= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=abv.bg; s=smtp-out; t=1450476743; bh=rfD5RtcP8VPfsa7KZgF+7V+4T+Os7QrGUyioWJB+NyU=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References:Subject: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:DKIM; b=l5VEx+u10dyFlPEUqTMiN8rWeLubKgFJdm14om2fUK6r+lZJ94xtgUjdWqEopAJHI 0PT5o45A83MBYI6HePWxFCfLrncOqMzvc5RHjsgUufC9ndgu/ASCkp85w+uKLtbO9w PRcEk0Q9vqgut1Tf89/d1psvmFPHv9RO8J8lO9ys= Received: from nm21.abv.bg (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nm21.abv.bg (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80D981201CE; Sat, 19 Dec 2015 00:12:23 +0200 (EET) Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2015 00:12:23 +0200 (EET) From: Georgi Manov To: Ben Lavery Cc: "kpneal@pobox.com" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <434277691.1525422.1450476743512.JavaMail.apache@nm21.abv.bg> In-Reply-To: <151b70cefa8.b8cd96ae27686.3199154379942807395@hashbang0.com> References: <1171783145.1510695.1450455797069.JavaMail.apache@nm21.abv.bg> <20151218201307.GB87773@neutralgood.org> <151b70cefa8.b8cd96ae27686.3199154379942807395@hashbang0.com> Subject: Re: Kernel compile error MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: AbvMail 3.0 X-Originating-IP: 81.109.242.199 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2015 22:12:26 -0000 Thank you very much both for your answers. This is a huge, huge help! I actually thought I have broken the source tree or my compiler somehow. Apologies for the initial email, I just saw how it looked like, it's inexcusable, I'll be verifying my emails(of that kind) in future. > > On 18 Dec 2015, at 20:13, "kpneal@pobox.com" wrote: > > > > > Try compiling > > GENERIC first. Then remove one or two options and recompile. Repeat until > > satisfied. > > Having stumbled across “random”—everything seems random and hard when you first start—errors compiling my first kernel this was the approach I took. It was a long process on my laptop, but I got there in the end :) From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Dec 18 22:26:00 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCA35A4C542 for ; Fri, 18 Dec 2015 22:26:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from smarthost1.sentex.ca (smarthost1.sentex.ca [IPv6:2607:f3e0:0:1::12]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "smarthost.sentex.ca", Issuer "smarthost.sentex.ca" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AA7B11D5B for ; Fri, 18 Dec 2015 22:26:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from vinyl4.sentex.ca (vinyl4.sentex.ca [64.7.153.17]) by smarthost1.sentex.ca (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id tBIMQ0uq084969 (version=TLSv1 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Fri, 18 Dec 2015 17:26:00 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from [192.168.1.206] (cage.simianscience.com [64.7.134.1]) (authenticated bits=0) by vinyl4.sentex.ca (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPA id tBIMPwOm027189; Fri, 18 Dec 2015 17:25:58 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) From: mike tancsa To: Ernie Luzar CC: "freebsd-questions" Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2015 17:25:58 -0500 Message-ID: <151b73318f0.2765.e68d32c7521a042b3773fe36a0156dc7@sentex.net> In-Reply-To: <56748142.4030907@gmail.com> References: <5671882E.3040509@sentex.net> <56748142.4030907@gmail.com> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 AquaMail/1.5.9.14 (build: 22000040) Subject: Re: sftp, syslog level, chrooted users in a jail MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.75 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2015 22:26:01 -0000 Hi, thanks for the reply. Yes, all the users (a few hundred) are all in one jail. However the users must be chrooted into their own directories for security reasons. Hence, I cannot remove the chroot option and am left with the issue of logging On December 18, 2015 4:57:11 PM Ernie Luzar wrote: > Mike Tancsa wrote: >> I am trying to increase the verbosity of sftp's syslog, but am running >> into a problem because the users are chrooted and ssh is running in a jail. >> >> My setup -- simple qjail with defaults >> >> I have inside, the user >> >> test1sftp:*:1002:1002:User &:/home/test1:/bin/false >> >> and in /etc/ssh/sshd_config I have >> >> Match user * >> ChrootDirectory %h >> ForceCommand internal-sftp -l debug1 >> AllowTcpForwarding no >> PermitTunnel no >> X11Forwarding no >> >> /home/test1sftp >> >> # ls -l /home/test1sftp >> total 27 >> drwxr-xr-x 5 root wheel uarch 5 Dec 16 10:04 . >> drwxrwxr-x 2 root wheel uarch 4 Dec 16 10:37 dev >> drwxr-xr-x 3 test1sftp test1sftp uarch 6 Dec 16 10:37 uploadhere >> >> >> In the dev directory, if I make >> # ls -l /home/test1sftp/dev/ >> total 2 >> drwxrwxr-x 2 root wheel uarch 4 Dec 16 10:37 . >> drwxr-xr-x 5 root wheel uarch 5 Dec 16 10:04 .. >> srw-rw-rw- 2 root wheel uarch 0 Dec 16 10:05 log >> srw------- 2 root wheel uarch 0 Dec 16 10:05 logpriv >> >> >> >> ln /var/run/logpriv logpriv >> ln /var/run/log log >> >> I can get it to work. >> >> >> 10:44:58 sshd >> 10:44:58 sshd: Accepted publickey for test1sftp from xxxx port 30534 >> ssh2: RSA 51:2e:.... >> 10:44:58 sshd: User child is on pid 83522 >> 10:44:58 sshd: Changed root directory to "/home/test1sftp" >> 10:44:58 sshd: Starting session: forced-command (config) 'internal-sftp >> -l verbose' for test1sftp from xxx port 30534 >> 10:44:58 internal-sftp >> 10:44:58 internal-sftp: received client version 3 >> 10:44:58 internal-sftp: realpath "." >> 10:45:00 /usr/sbin/cron: (root) CMD (/usr/libexec/atrun) >> 10:45:02 internal-sftp: realpath "/uploadhere" >> 10:45:02 internal-sftp: stat name "/uploadhere" >> 10:45:04 internal-sftp: opendir "/uploadhere/" >> 10:45:04 internal-sftp: closedir "/uploadhere/" >> 10:45:04 internal-sftp: lstat name "/uploadhere/valid-ip.c" >> 10:45:04 internal-sftp: lstat name "/uploadhere/valid-ip.c" >> 10:45:04 internal-sftp: remove name "/uploadhere/valid-ip.c" >> 10:45:09 internal-sftp: open "/uploadhere/valid-ip.c" flags >> WRITE,CREATE,TRUNCATE mode 0644 >> 10:45:09 internal-sftp: close "/uploadhere/valid-ip.c" bytes read 0 >> written 615 >> 10:45:10 internal-sftp: opendir "/uploadhere" >> 10:45:10 internal-sftp: closedir "/uploadhere" >> 10:45:11 internal-sftp >> 10:45:11 sshd: Received disconnect from xxxx: 11: disconnected by user >> >> >> I have a few hundred users. Apart from creating dev/log hard links for >> every home directory, is there a different way to go about this ? >> >> Are there any security issues I need to be aware of ? >> >> ---Mike >> > > Let me be sure I understand your setup correctly, ssh, sftp, and all the > users are defined in the same jail. > > In the jail remove ChrootDirectory %h option from sshd_config. > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Dec 19 02:00:32 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE33BA4B099 for ; Sat, 19 Dec 2015 02:00:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brandon.wandersee@gmail.com) Received: from mail-io0-f178.google.com (mail-io0-f178.google.com [209.85.223.178]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C90B21E1D for ; Sat, 19 Dec 2015 02:00:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brandon.wandersee@gmail.com) Received: by mail-io0-f178.google.com with SMTP id 186so109215704iow.0 for ; Fri, 18 Dec 2015 18:00:32 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=references:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:date:message-id :mime-version:content-type; bh=B3QKL39PwJGl7kiBKcSt9wJEG3XdYe1uDUdLBhDMEw4=; b=OshKF2wfSKtcHiy/vYVLtmOq38jJ8DTYpBiA0R9eKp81mdK2ONRwCmN9yxVITF8SJc jP5ZK754BA7HOteGF8RcDGapvk6ydu1fHuHFd8cxQURHAM8mDoy+Vr+yv5hBP+eN9hxt yQ5WYsh0u3FBEvuhnKCBPdNbPs2Ft3aEJyrhl88IcYvOq3xCyX9c0ypFxYJxsB02/MP2 HeF3pZ/upwADReT0pntOotqhU0EWf47wkNgHfhQ7PKTnMmenBQWQFahkQB/riBWd2qvg sQM9caPNFA922neTbxMrqCJUshhi1h4ztlOASYCKO1SOFqSiUcXQq8B73NH5sxwkHW3A 0aSQ== X-Received: by 10.107.158.213 with SMTP id h204mr9717501ioe.129.1450490426290; Fri, 18 Dec 2015 18:00:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from WorkBox.Home.gmail.com (63-231-131-191.mpls.qwest.net. [63.231.131.191]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id c21sm7630750ioc.24.2015.12.18.18.00.24 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 18 Dec 2015 18:00:25 -0800 (PST) References: <1171783145.1510695.1450455797069.JavaMail.apache@nm21.abv.bg> <20151218201307.GB87773@neutralgood.org> From: Brandon J. Wandersee To: kpneal@pobox.com Cc: Georgi Manov , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Kernel compile error In-reply-to: <20151218201307.GB87773@neutralgood.org> Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2015 20:00:24 -0600 Message-ID: <86si2zurif.fsf@WorkBox.Home> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2015 02:00:33 -0000 kpneal@pobox.com writes: > Try compiling GENERIC first. Then remove one or two options and > recompile. Repeat until satisfied. While I second the spirit behind this, there are some shortcuts you can take. If you don't have a RAID controller on your machine, for example, you can just delete the lines for all the RAID drivers. It's when you get to more nebulous-yet-vital stuff like network and disk drivers that you'll want to be more careful. It's still not a bad idea to build the GENERIC kernel, then build your custom, uniquely named kernel afterward. This way you at least have a backup GENERIC kernel at the ready if something goes even more wrong than expected. ;) -- ================================================================= :: Brandon Wandersee :: :: brandon.wandersee@gmail.com :: ================================================================== 'A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools.' - Douglas Adams ================================================================== From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Dec 19 03:11:49 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32E0CA4BC7E for ; Sat, 19 Dec 2015 03:11:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from luzar722@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pf0-x22d.google.com (mail-pf0-x22d.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400e:c00::22d]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0B60A199C for ; 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Fri, 18 Dec 2015 19:11:47 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <5674CB09.3040000@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2015 11:12:09 +0800 From: Ernie Luzar User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: mike tancsa CC: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: sftp, syslog level, chrooted users in a jail References: <5671882E.3040509@sentex.net> <56748142.4030907@gmail.com> <151b73318f0.2765.e68d32c7521a042b3773fe36a0156dc7@sentex.net> In-Reply-To: <151b73318f0.2765.e68d32c7521a042b3773fe36a0156dc7@sentex.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2015 03:11:49 -0000 >> Mike Tancsa wrote: >>> I am trying to increase the verbosity of sftp's syslog, but am running >>> into a problem because the users are chrooted and ssh is running in a >>> jail. >>> >>> My setup -- simple qjail with defaults >>> >>> I have inside, the user >>> >>> test1sftp:*:1002:1002:User &:/home/test1:/bin/false >>> >>> and in /etc/ssh/sshd_config I have >>> >>> Match user * >>> ChrootDirectory %h >>> ForceCommand internal-sftp -l debug1 >>> AllowTcpForwarding no >>> PermitTunnel no >>> X11Forwarding no >>> >>> /home/test1sftp >>> >>> # ls -l /home/test1sftp >>> total 27 >>> drwxr-xr-x 5 root wheel uarch 5 Dec 16 10:04 . >>> drwxrwxr-x 2 root wheel uarch 4 Dec 16 10:37 dev >>> drwxr-xr-x 3 test1sftp test1sftp uarch 6 Dec 16 10:37 uploadhere >>> >>> >>> In the dev directory, if I make >>> # ls -l /home/test1sftp/dev/ >>> total 2 >>> drwxrwxr-x 2 root wheel uarch 4 Dec 16 10:37 . >>> drwxr-xr-x 5 root wheel uarch 5 Dec 16 10:04 .. >>> srw-rw-rw- 2 root wheel uarch 0 Dec 16 10:05 log >>> srw------- 2 root wheel uarch 0 Dec 16 10:05 logpriv >>> >>> >>> >>> ln /var/run/logpriv logpriv >>> ln /var/run/log log >>> >>> I can get it to work. >>> >>> >>> 10:44:58 sshd >>> 10:44:58 sshd: Accepted publickey for test1sftp from xxxx port 30534 >>> ssh2: RSA 51:2e:.... >>> 10:44:58 sshd: User child is on pid 83522 >>> 10:44:58 sshd: Changed root directory to "/home/test1sftp" >>> 10:44:58 sshd: Starting session: forced-command (config) 'internal-sftp >>> -l verbose' for test1sftp from xxx port 30534 >>> 10:44:58 internal-sftp >>> 10:44:58 internal-sftp: received client version 3 >>> 10:44:58 internal-sftp: realpath "." >>> 10:45:00 /usr/sbin/cron: (root) CMD (/usr/libexec/atrun) >>> 10:45:02 internal-sftp: realpath "/uploadhere" >>> 10:45:02 internal-sftp: stat name "/uploadhere" >>> 10:45:04 internal-sftp: opendir "/uploadhere/" >>> 10:45:04 internal-sftp: closedir "/uploadhere/" >>> 10:45:04 internal-sftp: lstat name "/uploadhere/valid-ip.c" >>> 10:45:04 internal-sftp: lstat name "/uploadhere/valid-ip.c" >>> 10:45:04 internal-sftp: remove name "/uploadhere/valid-ip.c" >>> 10:45:09 internal-sftp: open "/uploadhere/valid-ip.c" flags >>> WRITE,CREATE,TRUNCATE mode 0644 >>> 10:45:09 internal-sftp: close "/uploadhere/valid-ip.c" bytes read 0 >>> written 615 >>> 10:45:10 internal-sftp: opendir "/uploadhere" >>> 10:45:10 internal-sftp: closedir "/uploadhere" >>> 10:45:11 internal-sftp >>> 10:45:11 sshd: Received disconnect from xxxx: 11: disconnected by user >>> >>> >>> I have a few hundred users. Apart from creating dev/log hard links for >>> every home directory, is there a different way to go about this ? >>> >>> Are there any security issues I need to be aware of ? >>> >>> ---Mike >>> >> >> Let me be sure I understand your setup correctly, ssh, sftp, and all the >> users are defined in the same jail. >> >> In the jail remove ChrootDirectory %h option from sshd_config. >> mike tancsa wrote: > Hi, thanks for the reply. Yes, all the users (a few hundred) are all in > one jail. However the users must be chrooted into their own directories > for security reasons. Hence, I cannot remove the chroot option and am > left with the issue of logging > You state "all the users (a few hundred) are all in one jail". Do you mean to say the users are in the SAME jail as ssh and sftp? If that is the case then the ssh ChrootDirectory is inappropriate. It's intended for ssh running on the host and is the cause of your sftp log problems. Your host system is already protected by the ssh jail and the file permissions of the users sftp directories. Over kill is hurting you in this case. It won't hurt to test it out before rejecting it. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Dec 19 10:53:40 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E36BA4C8A0 for ; Sat, 19 Dec 2015 10:53:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from me@rvijay.me) Received: from mail1.rvijay.me (mail1.rvijay.me [IPv6:2a00:1dc0:2002:0:fc09:f829:babe:b00b]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3C54B18A3 for ; Sat, 19 Dec 2015 10:53:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from me@rvijay.me) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail1.rvijay.me (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93C965319 for ; Sat, 19 Dec 2015 16:23:36 +0530 (IST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=rvijay.me; h= content-type:content-type:mime-version:user-agent:date:date :message-id:subject:subject:from:from:to; s=20130919; t= 1450522413; x=1451386414; bh=1pMKczqhcPVrlyAEb3bGHtsh2wS52H8xPx7 sjxVhKTQ=; b=WILWHvqgU9x/E5KXgyPyE+b+nGh4a81MXJalYsDzavdXQ7Z/OsN 8sJn2DHaZ1yj1AX80XcuK1EZAHxGTHpgkdHwuETJxdmiyKZSYhjqpr+jw4cH47M5 eE10tNjFbqHmR2hZcce+eu04Imswuu+KMwOHMcqbUWLPRQJJzZjzGsW0= Received: from mail1.rvijay.me ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail1.rvijay.me [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with LMTP id i1VU7lNedQDj for ; Sat, 19 Dec 2015 16:23:33 +0530 (IST) Received: from [192.168.1.119] (unknown [49.207.190.93]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail1.rvijay.me (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 5DEA648B8 for ; Sat, 19 Dec 2015 16:23:32 +0530 (IST) To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org From: Vijay Rjah Subject: Need help with New Build -- Skylake Message-ID: <56753729.7010003@rvijay.me> Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2015 16:23:29 +0530 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.11; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2015 10:53:40 -0000 Hello, I'm planning to build a file server for my home. I'm planning on using the B150 Intel chipset (specifically this MoBo: http://www.msi.com/product/motherboard/B150M-PRO-VDH.html#hero-overview) This has Realtek RTL8111H Gigabit LAN controller, Does FreeBSD support this? (the man page for mentions support for 8111) This is going to be a headless setup, hence I'm not concerned with lack of x11 support. (I'm assuming console works) Does any one in the list have any experiences with this Chipset/Motherboard. -Thanks in advance Vijay From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Dec 19 13:10:40 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 739A9A4C349 for ; Sat, 19 Dec 2015 13:10:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sergeig.public@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pa0-x236.google.com (mail-pa0-x236.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400e:c03::236]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4B8FE126A for ; Sat, 19 Dec 2015 13:10:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sergeig.public@gmail.com) Received: by mail-pa0-x236.google.com with SMTP id q3so54438317pav.3 for ; Sat, 19 Dec 2015 05:10:40 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=subject:to:references:from:message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=HALA6lf8JqgIKL1AvGE6cJYbPh8V0ls+WioW0d7mxKo=; b=rUbYJeyWMIR8O1x0WBpnVLxKpkOUoDtmObNINRQsj57r+ybrpYSDtJ1yFEwpZ8MXtS Rb6UwXzkky0DQS9CiQVhukvwwOhLUbverT6+mYuak4o9eK10SLGFP4dKse0qG+P8VWHu q/vtNBwjbs+7JI1c5CVg9mCCzSvikUVLOSxldIlXSh7PP74KhFnStzt55q6r3yFgE3la k5B2PryB6tiewZYighih4T23kV8GqPkSTvOs4323SoGEorIP30y6Y3POuQo3i/hQHyzv fSbtNHAxCPdcoxcy51EP4nq5Pf708rP/Gg9tH4FzXV0z55kAOEdfmmSkS6aC/2gOk2EP srhw== X-Received: by 10.66.158.193 with SMTP id ww1mr12915964pab.21.1450530639862; Sat, 19 Dec 2015 05:10:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from SergeiMBP.local (c-24-16-122-177.hsd1.wa.comcast.net. [24.16.122.177]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id fl9sm28436058pab.33.2015.12.19.05.10.38 for (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 19 Dec 2015 05:10:39 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: which label to use in mount? To: FreeBSD Questions References: From: Sergei G Message-ID: <5675574E.3060501@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2015 05:10:38 -0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.11; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2015 13:10:40 -0000 Thank you for all the comments. I have decided to go with GPT mount. I rerun size checks and was not able to reproduce the difference reported previously with or without df -H option. So, it appears to be my bad. here is a short log: % sudo mount /dev/ufs/back /backup/ % df /backup/ Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Avail Capacity Mounted on /dev/ufs/back 50778204 2403432 44312516 5% /backup % du /backup/ 2403432 /backup/ % sudo umount /backup/ % sudo mount /dev/gpt/dback /backup % df /backup/ Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Avail Capacity Mounted on /dev/gpt/dback 50778204 2403432 44312516 5% /backup % du /backup/ 2403432 /backup/ On 12/15/15 7:37 PM, Sergei G wrote: > I have executed the following commands: > > # gpart create -s GPT ada1 > # gpart add -t freebsd-ufs -l sback -s 50G ada1 > # newfs -nL back /dev/ada1p1 > > so, now I can mount it as either: > > # mount /dev/gpt/sback /mnt > or > # mount /dev/ufs/back /mnt > > Both seem to work. However, command > > df -H > > reports slightly different numbers: > > /dev/ufs/back 52G 4.1k 48G 0% /mnt > dev/gpt/dback 48G 4.0K 45G 0% /mnt > > Which way is the correct way to mount? > > > Thanks From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Dec 19 13:29:37 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69C5CA4B06C for ; Sat, 19 Dec 2015 13:29:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sergeig.public@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pa0-x22e.google.com (mail-pa0-x22e.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400e:c03::22e]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 436B71CF8 for ; Sat, 19 Dec 2015 13:29:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sergeig.public@gmail.com) Received: by mail-pa0-x22e.google.com with SMTP id jx14so46104746pad.2 for ; Sat, 19 Dec 2015 05:29:37 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=to:from:subject:message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=2TCsNDodDGtd8dA+TF12BRODO+yOZigQprzdfyKhga8=; b=Z7PL3vI0CbYM8ktGN3wa2fScKhPIQ8/iGx8sEiz2542sLahK7ATcWKKjIB8lQWWNx9 ELrWQ/GaX0F592QHY8nRgMTPJPxMEcY5OqHooEDKkMK8XVjh7vMW8B5cpicoJnwHzwbx IeF22HZKfWVjIs3SnVbfNvyvY5eAP9E6w4onTkY+LUqMmDnpuWYmgc/jD6Hce6f1EAre hwajwMXGO0HHki51KIy7QIYqfhuJQFJQtml64PGwBGpSeUh03mr+fVIqTLeDZfvFx1n+ AuFLykKtSrq32S5Eiu6kCiWis+7TJFTSbBQ/EyNL/yAr8Wj5kdkcqHjlbH+gwP7Eg/oW Bg6Q== X-Received: by 10.66.190.66 with SMTP id go2mr13309476pac.114.1450531776580; Sat, 19 Dec 2015 05:29:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from SergeiMBP.local (c-24-16-122-177.hsd1.wa.comcast.net. [24.16.122.177]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id yl1sm28523406pac.35.2015.12.19.05.29.35 for (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 19 Dec 2015 05:29:36 -0800 (PST) To: FreeBSD Questions From: Sergei G Subject: How to setup a custom PHP package? Message-ID: <56755BBF.1090801@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2015 05:29:35 -0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.11; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2015 13:29:37 -0000 Hi, I have discovered that one PHP app I am running in a jail needs PHP built with --enable-mbstring option. It appears that 10.2 is not compiled with that option. So, I need to build a custom PHP package and load it into a jail. How do I do that? I have never setup a custom package repository. I hope I can build just the PHP and may be PHP-FPM and nothing else in my custom repo. I'd like the rest of the packages to be loaded from standard repositories as usual. Thank you From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Dec 19 15:00:40 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15895A48A92 for ; Sat, 19 Dec 2015 15:00:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ike@michaeleichorn.com) Received: from mx1.eichornenterprises.com (mx1.eichornenterprises.com [104.236.13.122]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mx1.eichornenterprises.com", Issuer "StartCom Class 1 Primary Intermediate Server CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BEC151EA4 for ; Sat, 19 Dec 2015 15:00:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ike@michaeleichorn.com) Received: from mail.eichornenterprises.com (cpe-184-59-147-149.neo.res.rr.com [184.59.147.149]) by mx1.eichornenterprises.com (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id d1a5d53d; Sat, 19 Dec 2015 10:00:29 -0500 (EST) Received: by mail.eichornenterprises.com (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTPSA id dda678ce TLS version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO; Sat, 19 Dec 2015 10:00:29 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <1450537234.1205.95.camel@michaeleichorn.com> Subject: Re: How to setup a custom PHP package? From: "Michael B. Eichorn" To: Sergei G , FreeBSD Questions Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2015 10:00:34 -0500 In-Reply-To: <56755BBF.1090801@gmail.com> References: <56755BBF.1090801@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.18.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2015 15:00:40 -0000 On Sat, 2015-12-19 at 05:29 -0800, Sergei G wrote: > Hi, > > I have discovered that one PHP app I am running in a jail needs PHP > built with --enable-mbstring option.  It appears that 10.2 is not > compiled with that option. > > So, I need to build a custom PHP package and load it into a jail. How > do > I do that?  I have never setup a custom package repository. > > I hope I can build just the PHP and may be PHP-FPM and nothing else > in > my custom repo.  I'd like the rest of the packages to be loaded from > standard repositories as usual. > > > Thank you Have you tried converters/php56-mbstring? The PHP package is just the basics but most of the options have been complied as extensions and can be installed as with packages. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Dec 19 16:17:09 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96C1FA4C7B9 for ; Sat, 19 Dec 2015 16:17:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5E92111AA for ; Sat, 19 Dec 2015 16:17:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1aAKBn-0002Hf-84 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 19 Dec 2015 17:16:59 +0100 Received: from 5e1bb859.mobile.pool.telekom.hu ([94.27.184.89]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 19 Dec 2015 17:16:59 +0100 Received: from leventelist by 5e1bb859.mobile.pool.telekom.hu with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 19 Dec 2015 17:16:59 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Lev Subject: mounting udf Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2015 17:16:51 +0100 Lines: 6 Message-ID: <20151219171651.12f1da2d@jive.levalinux.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 5e1bb859.mobile.pool.telekom.hu X-Newsreader: Claws Mail 3.12.0 (GTK+ 2.24.28; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.1) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2015 16:17:09 -0000 SSB0cnkgdG8gbW91bnQgYW4gVURGIERWRCwgYW5kIEkgZ2V0IHRoaXM6DQoNCm1vdW50X3VkZjog L2Rldi9jZDA6IEludmFsaWQgYXJndW1lbnQNCg0KSSBoYXZlIHRoaXMgaXMgaW4gbXkgbG9hZGVy LmNvbmY6DQoNCmF0YXBpY2FtX2xvYWQ9IllFUyINCmh3LmF0YS5hdGFwaV9kbWE9IjEiDQoNCldo YXQgZG8gSSBtaXNzPw0KDQpUaGFua3MsDQpMZXYNCg0KLS0gDQo3MyBkZSBIQTVPR0wNCk9wLjog TGV2ZW50ZQ0K From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Dec 19 16:56:06 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E4BDA4CE89 for ; Sat, 19 Dec 2015 16:56:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vsasjason@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wm0-x234.google.com (mail-wm0-x234.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::234]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F30A012EA for ; Sat, 19 Dec 2015 16:56:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vsasjason@gmail.com) Received: by mail-wm0-x234.google.com with SMTP id l126so21454832wml.0 for ; Sat, 19 Dec 2015 08:56:05 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=AEQGky9AdB2911FNPbzawqVDBaomVTV1MqM7OzWkwa0=; b=TQni9+E8dJI6bNj85k1yCTukHR8u+o1X36SOfZg2KO6k8oVYA9Pi2rItIVxhXKlywt GdclwAtcGuFc1pjpQmMZR3kTlg83kBF96VpyZKInue0QjWzoM18hPtIdOyrQGAVFnf3g 5trrjWXi/obBhwITBoHQ0xgIaTjFJ7Wrf6QhIK7GhJK7/BefOeHOr5KZu847DWDeC0eN 5f/9NMBnJKnBC1siIwp6f19HtlAF6vMOi8EHF33hLvGLtngxe24nW83xSPkBMeqqgCUQ sD+WVNMBigaIoXbVNGNYdtvbJXH1BOZS4ppaN9jD5crLO5VzrizRgXNqo2iRDTxj1csq YADA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.28.184.76 with SMTP id i73mr2685341wmf.43.1450544164334; Sat, 19 Dec 2015 08:56:04 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.194.76.207 with HTTP; Sat, 19 Dec 2015 08:56:04 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.194.76.207 with HTTP; Sat, 19 Dec 2015 08:56:04 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20151219171651.12f1da2d@jive.levalinux.org> References: <20151219171651.12f1da2d@jive.levalinux.org> Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2015 19:56:04 +0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: mounting udf From: Anton Sayetsky To: Lev Cc: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2015 16:56:06 -0000 19 =D0=B4=D0=B5=D0=BA. 2015 =D0=B3. 18:17 =D0=BF=D0=BE=D0=BB=D1=8C=D0=B7=D0= =BE=D0=B2=D0=B0=D1=82=D0=B5=D0=BB=D1=8C "Lev" =D0= =BD=D0=B0=D0=BF=D0=B8=D1=81=D0=B0=D0=BB: > > I try to mount an UDF DVD, and I get this: > > mount_udf: /dev/cd0: Invalid argument > > I have this is in my loader.conf: > > atapicam_load=3D"YES" > hw.ata.atapi_dma=3D"1" > > What do I miss? You missed to post UDF version. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Dec 19 18:10:20 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB7D6A4D99E for ; Sat, 19 Dec 2015 18:10:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 85D081F75 for ; Sat, 19 Dec 2015 18:10:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-31-25.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.31.25]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A8BD92788D; Sat, 19 Dec 2015 19:10:11 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id tBJIAAgO002053; Sat, 19 Dec 2015 19:10:10 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2015 19:10:10 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Lev Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mounting udf Message-Id: <20151219191010.21d4af06.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20151219171651.12f1da2d@jive.levalinux.org> References: <20151219171651.12f1da2d@jive.levalinux.org> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2015 18:10:20 -0000 On Sat, 19 Dec 2015 17:16:51 +0100, Lev wrote: > I try to mount an UDF DVD, and I get this: > > mount_udf: /dev/cd0: Invalid argument > > I have this is in my loader.conf: > > atapicam_load="YES" > hw.ata.atapi_dma="1" Which FreeBSD version are you using? ATAPICAM has been deprecated, CAM is the default now. In case you'd actually use ATAPI, try this: # mount_udf -r /dev/acd0 /mnt But note that /dev/cd0 would be the correct device on recent FreeBSD versions; there, # mount_udf -r /dev/cd0 /mnt should work. If not... maybe FUSE is the way to go? > What do I miss? FreeBSD version and complete mount command. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... 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Sat, 19 Dec 2015 20:32:24 +0100 (CET) Received: from chacha.levafreebsd.org (5E1BB859.mobile.pool.telekom.hu [94.27.184.89]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: levente@altanet.hu) by papyrus.altaweb.hu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 672CBA52C8; Sat, 19 Dec 2015 20:32:24 +0100 (CET) Received: from jive.levalinux.org (jive.levalinux.org [192.168.1.1]) by chacha.levafreebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3FCAEE9E9E0; Sat, 19 Dec 2015 20:40:40 +0100 (CET) Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2015 20:40:39 +0100 From: Lev To: Polytropon Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mounting udf Message-ID: <20151219204039.70b2b91b@jive.levalinux.org> In-Reply-To: <20151219191010.21d4af06.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <20151219171651.12f1da2d@jive.levalinux.org> <20151219191010.21d4af06.freebsd@edvax.de> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.12.0 (GTK+ 2.24.28; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.1) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2015 19:49:29 -0000 T24gU2F0LCAxOSBEZWMgMjAxNSAxOToxMDoxMCArMDEwMA0KUG9seXRyb3BvbiA8ZnJlZWJzZEBl ZHZheC5kZT4gd3JvdGU6DQoNCj4gT24gU2F0LCAxOSBEZWMgMjAxNSAxNzoxNjo1MSArMDEwMCwg TGV2IHdyb3RlOg0KPiA+IEkgdHJ5IHRvIG1vdW50IGFuIFVERiBEVkQsIGFuZCBJIGdldCB0aGlz Og0KPiA+IA0KPiA+IG1vdW50X3VkZjogL2Rldi9jZDA6IEludmFsaWQgYXJndW1lbnQNCj4gPiAN Cj4gPiBJIGhhdmUgdGhpcyBpcyBpbiBteSBsb2FkZXIuY29uZjoNCj4gPiANCj4gPiBhdGFwaWNh bV9sb2FkPSJZRVMiDQo+ID4gaHcuYXRhLmF0YXBpX2RtYT0iMSINCj4gDQo+IFdoaWNoIEZyZWVC U0QgdmVyc2lvbiBhcmUgeW91IHVzaW5nPyBBVEFQSUNBTSBoYXMgYmVlbg0KPiBkZXByZWNhdGVk LCBDQU0gaXMgdGhlIGRlZmF1bHQgbm93Lg0KPiANCj4gSW4gY2FzZSB5b3UnZCBhY3R1YWxseSB1 c2UgQVRBUEksIHRyeSB0aGlzOg0KPiANCj4gCSMgbW91bnRfdWRmIC1yIC9kZXYvYWNkMCAvbW50 DQo+IA0KPiBCdXQgbm90ZSB0aGF0IC9kZXYvY2QwIHdvdWxkIGJlIHRoZSBjb3JyZWN0IGRldmlj ZSBvbg0KPiByZWNlbnQgRnJlZUJTRCB2ZXJzaW9uczsgdGhlcmUsDQo+IA0KPiAJIyBtb3VudF91 ZGYgLXIgL2Rldi9jZDAgL21udA0KPiANCj4gc2hvdWxkIHdvcmsuIElmIG5vdC4uLiBtYXliZSBG VVNFIGlzIHRoZSB3YXkgdG8gZ28/DQo+IA0KPiANCj4gDQo+ID4gV2hhdCBkbyBJIG1pc3M/DQo+ IA0KPiBGcmVlQlNEIHZlcnNpb24gYW5kIGNvbXBsZXRlIG1vdW50IGNvbW1hbmQuIDotKQ0KIA0K SSBoYXZlDQoNCjEwLjItUkVMRUFTRS1wMg0KIA0KYW5kIEkgdXNlZCANCg0KbW91bnQgL2Rldi9j ZDAgL21udA0KDQpzYW1lIHJlc3VsdCB3aXRoDQoNCm1vdW50IC10IHVkZiAvZGV2L2NkMCAvbW50 DQoNCm9yDQoNCm1vdW50X3VkZiAvZGV2L2NkMCAvbW50DQoNCmNvbW1hbmQuDQoNCi1yIGRvZXNu J3QgY2hhbmdlIGFueXRoaW5nLiAobW91bnRfdWRmIGRvZXNuJ3QgcmVhbGx5IGhhdmUgdGhhdCBv cHRpb24uKQ0KDQpPay4gU28gc2hvdWxkIGl0IHdvcmsgb3V0IG9mIHRoZSBib3g/DQoNClRoYW5r cywNCkxldmVudGUNCg0KLS0gDQo3MyBkZSBIQTVPR0wNCk9wLjogTGV2ZW50ZQ0K From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Dec 19 20:03:25 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D0E4A4BCCF for ; Sat, 19 Dec 2015 20:03:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 25CEE17D4 for ; Sat, 19 Dec 2015 20:03:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-31-25.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.31.25]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CB249278C5; Sat, 19 Dec 2015 21:03:22 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id tBJK3MNC002781; Sat, 19 Dec 2015 21:03:22 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2015 21:03:21 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Lev Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mounting udf Message-Id: <20151219210321.c5438bdc.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20151219204039.70b2b91b@jive.levalinux.org> References: <20151219171651.12f1da2d@jive.levalinux.org> <20151219191010.21d4af06.freebsd@edvax.de> <20151219204039.70b2b91b@jive.levalinux.org> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2015 20:03:25 -0000 On Sat, 19 Dec 2015 20:40:39 +0100, Lev wrote: > I have > > 10.2-RELEASE-p2 > > and I used > > mount /dev/cd0 /mnt This command would raise the follow-up question of the corresponding line in /etc/fstab. :-) > same result with > > mount -t udf /dev/cd0 /mnt > > or > > mount_udf /dev/cd0 /mnt > > command. Those are "the same". > -r doesn't change anything. (mount_udf doesn't really have that option.) You're right, read-only seems to be the default anyway. But mount -r is still considered standard for read-only optical media. :-) > Ok. So should it work out of the box? It should. Here's an example of FreeBSD 8-STABLE: # file - < /dev/cd0 /dev/stdin: UDF filesystem data (version 1.5) 'IRON_SKY ' # mount_udf /dev/cd0 /mnt # mount -v | grep "udf" /dev/cd0 on /mnt (udf, local, read-only) # df -h /mnt Filesystem Size Used Avail Capacity Mounted on /dev/cd0 7.9G 7.9G 0B 100% /mnt # umount /mnt Are you sure, _really_ sure you have a UDF medium? See my first (quite stupid) command on how to verify. It should also work with ATAPI. On my home system, I still have the choice of using ATAPICAM (/dev/cd0) or ATAPI (/dev/acd0): # file - < /dev/acd0 /dev/stdin: UDF filesystem data (version 1.5) 'IRON_SKY ' # mount_udf /dev/acd0 /mnt # mount -v | grep "udf" /dev/acd0 on /mnt (udf, local, read-only) # df -h /mnt Filesystem Size Used Avail Capacity Mounted on /dev/acd0 7.9G 7.9G 0B 100% /mnt # umount /mnt However, on FreeBSD 10.2, ATAPI is no longer present. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Dec 19 23:10:24 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71244A4C92A for ; Sat, 19 Dec 2015 23:10:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from starikarp@yandex.com) Received: from forward13h.cmail.yandex.net (forward13h.cmail.yandex.net [IPv6:2a02:6b8:0:f35::9e]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "forwards.mail.yandex.net", Issuer "Yandex CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2C53B19A1 for ; Sat, 19 Dec 2015 23:10:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from starikarp@yandex.com) Received: from smtp3h.mail.yandex.net (smtp3h.mail.yandex.net [IPv6:2a02:6b8:0:f05::117]) by forward13h.cmail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id 3AAD520E2F for ; Sun, 20 Dec 2015 02:10:12 +0300 (MSK) Received: from smtp3h.mail.yandex.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp3h.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id 022C01B428B1 for ; Sun, 20 Dec 2015 02:10:11 +0300 (MSK) Received: by smtp3h.mail.yandex.net (nwsmtp/Yandex) with ESMTPSA id 11NDsldi2o-AAxu0qML; Sun, 20 Dec 2015 02:10:11 +0300 (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client certificate not present) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.com; s=mail; t=1450566611; bh=eIGynfZeAi9IiS0F6jR6uPiYzyiG8/EDpRHBIKvy+C4=; h=Message-ID:Subject:From:To:Date:Content-Type:X-Mailer: Mime-Version:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=qINFf+MZN4h26XV1yqoSeUSX30vBpswWaDv78mz24l8E4k7tJBR3sChImdarV6AZ+ B/OlkF+0h+jz4TxzdJ+wRkYCZ2WLCf5XKbq1J3yZUHp6EuAHTMCV6tauAeF1U/SfbF TfM710O0cEXdllftMJnmJxwDG2JJ6A24+9eAILU8= Authentication-Results: smtp3h.mail.yandex.net; dkim=pass header.i=@yandex.com X-Yandex-ForeignMX: US Message-ID: <1450566608.55659.2.camel@yandex.com> Subject: portsnap servers From: Stari Karp To: FreeBSD Questions Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2015 18:10:08 -0500 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.16.5 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2015 23:10:24 -0000 Hi! I cannot update anything yet from yesterday night: "portsnap fetch update Looking up portsnap.FreeBSD.org mirrors... 7 mirrors found. Fetching snapshot tag from your-org.portsnap.freebsd.org... done. Latest snapshot on server matches what we already have. No updates needed. Ports tree is already up to date." But I saw there is Firefox 4.3 (freshports.org). Thank you. Stari Karp