From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 30 21:39:02 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E14016A46C for ; Tue, 30 Oct 2007 21:39:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jamesh@lanl.gov) Received: from mailwasher.lanl.gov (mailwasher.lanl.gov [204.121.3.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3394B13C465 for ; Tue, 30 Oct 2007 21:39:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jamesh@lanl.gov) Received: from mailrelay2.lanl.gov (mailrelay2.lanl.gov [128.165.4.103]) by mailwasher.lanl.gov (8.13.8/8.13.8/(ccn-5)) with ESMTP id l9ULcvJg019714; Tue, 30 Oct 2007 15:38:57 -0600 Received: from oppie-mail.lanl.gov (oppie-mail.lanl.gov [128.165.4.123]) by mailrelay2.lanl.gov (8.13.8/8.13.8/(ccn-5)) with ESMTP id l9ULct4x000437; Tue, 30 Oct 2007 15:38:55 -0600 Received: from [128.165.86.10] (secretariat.lanl.gov [128.165.86.10]) by oppie-mail.lanl.gov (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1ACC1F8003; Tue, 30 Oct 2007 15:38:49 -0600 (MDT) From: James To: Jeff D In-Reply-To: References: <4726EC3E.3000405@infracaninophile.co.uk> Organization: Los Alamos National Laboratories Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 15:39:06 -0600 Message-Id: <1193780346.83834.2.camel@secretariat.lanl.gov> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.10.3 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port X-CTN-5-MailScanner-Information: Please see http://network.lanl.gov/email/virus-scan.php X-CTN-5-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-CTN-5-MailScanner-From: jamesh@lanl.gov X-Spam-Status: No Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Newby Question: What to do when one port can't recognize another port? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: jamesh@lanl.gov List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 21:39:02 -0000 On Tue, 2007-10-30 at 06:42 -0700, Jeff D wrote: > Matthew, > > On 10/30/07, Matthew Seaman wrote: > > > > This is a known problem with the apache22 port. At the moment it only > > understands about Berkeley DB versions up to 4.4.x -- there's an open > > ticket in the PR system which requests support for versions up to 4.6.x: > > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=ports/116637 > > > > Until that gets fixed, use BDB 4.4.x instead. To make that the default > > version on your system add this to /etc/make.conf: > > > > WITH_BDB_VER= 44 > > > Thanks for pointing this out. > > I'd thought that the port system in Freebsd was assured to be internally > consistent with all other stuff in the system by a central team (QA?). I > didn't realize that each port was from a different person, and that the > process could get held up for weeks or months. > > I guess your advice is what I should do. I'm a little nervous about undoing > what's already been done, and think I might just start over with db44 to be > safe. > > Knowing this now, I guess I should also make a list of the programs and > versions I need, and check each & every one for problems before I start > again. If something popular like the Apache Web Server has long standing > unresolved issues like this, other programs may too. > > A friend is pushing me to use Ubunutu Linux instead, saying that stuff like > this doesn't happen with it, but I'm not so convinced. After being 'sold' > on the Freebsd ports, it's worth some more reading. > > Thanks. > > Regards, > > Jeff All OSes have their good and bad points. Sometimes, even the mighty ubuntu pushes out broken updates (such as the one a version or two back that broke a significant percentage's X-configuration). And ubuntu has a bug tracker for a reason, not just for kicks. Just like FreeBSD. If you want a smoother sailing way of going forwards, try installing the older version of apache that's available in ports. Its install is the one that's handbook documented. If you decide to go with ubuntu, I hope it goes well for you. They have a friendly community that can help most problems. James