From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jul 30 0: 2:16 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from soup.thpoon.com (cr103675-a.bloor1.on.wave.home.com [24.114.152.71]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4486F37B92F for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2000 00:02:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from antipode@thpoon.com) Received: (qmail 21884 invoked from network); 30 Jul 2000 07:02:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO tea.thpoon.com) (mail@192.168.1.2) by cr103675-a.bloor1.on.wave.home.com with SMTP; 30 Jul 2000 07:02:05 -0000 Received: from antipode by tea.thpoon.com with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 13In6r-00023O-00 for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2000 03:02:05 -0400 To: FreeBSD-Stable Subject: ipfw core dumped on 4.1-S From: Arcady Genkin X-Face: 0=A/O5-+sE[Tf%X>rYr?Y5LD4,:^'jaJ!4jC&UR*ZrrK2>^`g22Qeb]!:d;}2YJ|Hq"LHdF OX`jWX|AT-WVFQ(TPhFVak)0nt$aEdlOq=1~D,:\z5QlVOrZ2(H,mKg=Xr|'VlHA="r Organization: thpoon.com Mail-Copies-To: never Date: 30 Jul 2000 03:02:05 -0400 Message-ID: <87hf98ksnm.fsf@tea.thpoon.com> Lines: 12 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0807 (Gnus v5.8.7) XEmacs/21.1 (Capitol Reef) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I upgraded 4.0 -> 4.1 today via make world. I just noticed a message that ipfw core dumped: Jul 30 02:06:42 soup /kernel: pid 21706 (ipfw), uid 0: exited on \ signal 11 (core dumped) Do I remember correctly that signal 11 is usually hardware-related? FWIW, I couldn't find the core file. Where would it get written? -- Arcady Genkin Thanks God I'm still an atheist! -- Luis Bunuel To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jul 30 0:16:56 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from soup.thpoon.com (cr103675-a.bloor1.on.wave.home.com [24.114.152.71]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 19CB937B92F for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2000 00:16:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from antipode@thpoon.com) Received: (qmail 21922 invoked from network); 30 Jul 2000 07:16:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO tea.thpoon.com) (mail@192.168.1.2) by cr103675-a.bloor1.on.wave.home.com with SMTP; 30 Jul 2000 07:16:44 -0000 Received: from antipode by tea.thpoon.com with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 13InL2-00023t-00 for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2000 03:16:44 -0400 To: FreeBSD-Stable Subject: ... And a core dump in security check output (was: ipfw core dumped on 4.1-S) References: <87hf98ksnm.fsf@tea.thpoon.com> From: Arcady Genkin X-Face: 0=A/O5-+sE[Tf%X>rYr?Y5LD4,:^'jaJ!4jC&UR*ZrrK2>^`g22Qeb]!:d;}2YJ|Hq"LHdF OX`jWX|AT-WVFQ(TPhFVak)0nt$aEdlOq=1~D,:\z5QlVOrZ2(H,mKg=Xr|'VlHA="r Organization: thpoon.com Mail-Copies-To: never Date: 30 Jul 2000 03:16:44 -0400 In-Reply-To: Arcady Genkin's message of "30 Jul 2000 03:02:05 -0400" Message-ID: <87d7jwkrz7.fsf@tea.thpoon.com> Lines: 24 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0807 (Gnus v5.8.7) XEmacs/21.1 (Capitol Reef) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Arcady Genkin writes: > I upgraded 4.0 -> 4.1 today via make world. > > I just noticed a message that ipfw core dumped: > > Jul 30 02:06:42 soup /kernel: pid 21706 (ipfw), uid 0: exited on \ > signal 11 (core dumped) > > Do I remember correctly that signal 11 is usually hardware-related? > FWIW, I couldn't find the core file. Where would it get written? Sorry to follow up to myself, but I just received email from cron with security check output, and have a coredump in there too: ,---- | checking for passwordless accounts: | Segmentation fault - core dumped `---- What's going on? -- Arcady Genkin Thanks God I'm still an atheist! -- Luis Bunuel To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jul 30 0:29: 0 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from maildrop.velocet.net (maildrop.velocet.net [216.126.74.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2CC337B9FF for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2000 00:28:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from willwong@anime.ca) Received: from magus (H45.C55.tor.velocet.net [204.138.55.45]) by maildrop.velocet.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 6FB1E78203 for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2000 03:28:49 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <001d01bff9f7$ce3ce980$0300a8c0@anime.ca> From: "William Wong" To: Subject: PPPoE Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 03:28:48 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi there, Does anyone know if there are plans to support PPPoE outta the box? (without recompiling the kernel) I'm not sure how many people are affected by this, but not being able to do a PPPoE install from the boot disks is a bugger. - Will To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jul 30 2: 3:40 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from hecky.it.northwestern.edu (hecky.acns.nwu.edu [129.105.16.51]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D263A37B584 for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2000 02:02:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from djkanter@northwestern.edu) Received: (from mailnull@localhost) by hecky.it.northwestern.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id EAA19678 for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2000 04:02:02 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain (coconut-9-028029.nuts.nwu.edu [165.124.28.29]) by hecky.acns.nwu.edu via smap (V2.0) id xma019648; Sun, 30 Jul 00 04:01:47 -0500 Received: (from david@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA01414 for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Sat, 29 Jul 2000 21:07:14 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from david) Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2000 21:07:14 -0500 From: "David J. Kanter" To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Perl modules after buildworld? Message-ID: <20000729210714.A1383@localhost.localdomain> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <4.3.2.20000729114028.00ac5a20@207.227.119.2> <4.3.2.20000729132057.00b3b280@207.227.119.2> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.4i In-Reply-To: ; from philippe@le-berre.com on Sat, Jul 29, 2000 at 05:57:16PM -0700 X-Organization: Northwestern University X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.1-STABLE Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, Jul 29, 2000 at 05:57:16PM -0700, Philippe Le Berre wrote: > Did I miss something > with Perl when doing make buildworld & make installworld? ---end quoted text--- Isn't there something in UPGRADING.TXT about recompiling Perl modules when going from 3 to 4? -- David Kanter djkanter@northwestern.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jul 30 3:26:38 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ducky.nz.freebsd.org (chilled.unixathome.org [203.79.82.27]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A31E37B5F6; Sun, 30 Jul 2000 03:26:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dan@langille.org) Received: from wocker (wocker.int.nz.freebsd.org [192.168.0.99]) by ducky.nz.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA75056; Sun, 30 Jul 2000 22:26:24 +1200 (NZST) From: "Dan Langille" Organization: langille.org To: andrew@ugh.net.au Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 22:26:23 +1200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: is fetch broken? Reply-To: dan@langille.org Cc: Mike Tancsa , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org, des@FreeBSD.org Message-ID: <3984AB8F.7352.32D1C242@localhost> References: <20000729174208.F59315@strontium.scientia.demon.co.uk> In-reply-to: X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 30 Jul 2000, at 11:10, andrew@ugh.net.au wrote: > Are you using an HTTP proxy? Have you tried the -b and/or -t options? I get > similar errors (and always have) if I don't use -b. I hate it when I have to retract something. A simple test worked with the 4.0-stable fetch under 4.1-stable, but more complex tasks fail: Receiving /usr/ports/x11/kdelibs2/Makefile.1fetch: www.freebsd.org: Inappropriate ioctl for device /home/dan/walkports/fetch-cvs-file.sh : Download failure -- Dan Langille [I'm looking for more work] The FreeBSD Diary - http://www.freebsddiary.org/ FreshPorts - http://freshports.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jul 30 6: 4:42 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp (waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp [210.226.20.160]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E4F337B5F6; Sun, 30 Jul 2000 06:04:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kuriyama@FreeBSD.org) Received: from waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp (8.11.0/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e6UD4hp34768; Sun, 30 Jul 2000 22:04:44 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from kuriyama@FreeBSD.org) Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 22:04:43 +0900 Message-ID: <7mya2jpy50.wl@waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp> From: Jun Kuriyama To: jkh@zippy.osd.bsdi.com Cc: stable@FreeBSD.org, committers@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: src code freeze is over for RELENG_4 In-Reply-To: In your message of "Fri, 28 Jul 2000 13:12:39 -0700" <9202.964815159@localhost> References: <20000728145630.A30667@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> <9202.964815159@localhost> User-Agent: Wanderlust/1.1.1 (Purple Rain) SEMI/1.13.7 (Awazu) FLIM/1.13.2 (Kasanui) MULE XEmacs/21.1 (patch 10) (Capitol Reef) (i386--freebsd) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.13.7 - "Awazu") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At Fri, 28 Jul 2000 13:12:39 -0700, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > Is it worth doing a (non-CD) 4.1.5 release the day after the patent expires? > > Why? It's not as if the RSA code is bundled with the system, and to > get it into such a state would probably take more than a day. :-) Does this mean snapshot on releng4.FreeBSD.org will have int'l version of RSA code (compiled librsa) after September? # current.jp.FreeBSD.org has snapshots which is build with # USA_RESIDENT=NO. So we (outside US) can install "RSA ready" system # via ftp... -- Jun Kuriyama // FreeBSD Project To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jul 30 6:26:34 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from lerami.lerctr.org (lerami.lerctr.org [207.158.72.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5633F37B5D4 for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2000 06:26:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ler@lerctr.org) Received: (from ler@localhost) by lerami.lerctr.org (8.10.1/8.10.1/20000715) id e6UDQSD01962 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Sun, 30 Jul 2000 08:26:28 -0500 (CDT) From: Larry Rosenman Message-Id: <200007301326.e6UDQSD01962@lerami.lerctr.org> Subject: OpenSSH V2.1 vs. V2.1.1p4 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 08:26:28 -0500 (CDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL79 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Greetings, I had posted to this list during the 4.1-RC phase about OpenSSH v2.1 vs. v2.1.1p4 and my UnixWare box. I finally got around to checking the config files, and with identical config files, both work just fine. Here are the diffs, and the .old file breaks, but the other one works. --- ssh_config.old Sun Jul 23 19:30:33 2000 +++ ssh_config Sun Jul 30 08:22:19 2000 @@ -1,8 +1,6 @@ # This is ssh client systemwide configuration file. This file provides # defaults for users, and the values can be changed in per-user configuration # files or on the command line. -# -# $FreeBSD: src/crypto/openssh/ssh_config,v 1.2.2.1 2000/06/09 07:10:21 kris Exp $ # Configuration data is parsed as follows: # 1. command line options @@ -14,20 +12,20 @@ # Site-wide defaults for various options - Host * - ForwardAgent yes - ForwardX11 yes +# Host * +# ForwardAgent yes +# ForwardX11 yes # RhostsAuthentication yes - RhostsRSAAuthentication yes - RSAAuthentication yes - PasswordAuthentication yes +# RhostsRSAAuthentication yes +# RSAAuthentication yes +# PasswordAuthentication yes # FallBackToRsh yes # UseRsh no # BatchMode no # CheckHostIP yes - StrictHostKeyChecking no - IdentityFile ~/.ssh/identity - Port 22 - Protocol 2,1 - Cipher blowfish - EscapeChar ~ +# StrictHostKeyChecking no +# IdentityFile ~/.ssh/identity +# Port 22 +# Protocol 2,1 +# Cipher blowfish +# EscapeChar ~ -- Larry Rosenman http://www.lerctr.org/~ler Phone: +1 972-414-9812 (voice) Internet: ler@lerctr.org US Mail: 1905 Steamboat Springs Drive, Garland, TX 75044-6749 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jul 30 7:35:39 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from merlin.prod.itd.earthlink.net (merlin.prod.itd.earthlink.net [207.217.120.156]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEC2E37B596 for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2000 07:35:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from philippe@le-berre.com) Received: from [209.178.165.61] (pool0316.cvx7-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net [209.178.165.61]) by merlin.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.9.3-EL_1_3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA08682; Sun, 30 Jul 2000 07:35:18 -0700 (PDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: philippe.le.berre/le-berre.com@212.129.1.43 (Unverified) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 07:35:15 -0700 To: Tom From: Philippe Le Berre Subject: Re: Perl modules after buildworld? Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 6:26 PM -0700 7/29/00, Tom wrote: >On Sat, 29 Jul 2000, Philippe Le Berre wrote: > >... >> DBD::Mysql <> >> oops. I have tried to delete & re-install the Mysql perl modules but >... > > If you get an error that a shared library can't be loaded, you should >verify if you have it. libmysqlclient.so.X is included with MySQL. If >you have it, you should see why the dynamic linker can't find it. >Probably because the path to the library is no longer looked at by >ldconfig during bootup (see /etc/rc.conf). A quick fix is: > > ldconfig -m That was it, thanks! -philippe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jul 30 10:17: 7 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from david.siemens.de (david.siemens.de [192.35.17.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFFDD37B524; Sun, 30 Jul 2000 10:16:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andre.albsmeier@mchp.siemens.de) X-Envelope-Sender-Is: andre.albsmeier@mchp.siemens.de (at relayer david.siemens.de) Received: from mail1.siemens.de (mail1.siemens.de [139.23.33.14]) by david.siemens.de (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id e6UHGsR07987; Sun, 30 Jul 2000 19:16:54 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from curry.mchp.siemens.de (curry.mchp.siemens.de [139.25.42.7]) by mail1.siemens.de (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id e6UHGr511862; Sun, 30 Jul 2000 19:16:54 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from localhost) by curry.mchp.siemens.de (8.10.2/8.10.2) id e6UHGra19315; Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 19:16:53 +0200 From: Andre Albsmeier To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Cc: phk@freebsd.org Subject: "fd" is usurping "fd"'s ... Message-ID: <20000730191653.A74599@curry.mchp.siemens.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.4i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG [CC'ed to phk since he commited the warning message to sys/kern/kern_conf.c so he probably knows about this :-) ] When playing around with 4.1-STABLE, I get these messages during boot: fdc0: at port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa0 fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0 fd1: <1200-KB 5.25" drive> on fdc0 drive 1 WARNING: "fd" is usurping "fd"'s cdevsw[] WARNING: "fd" is usurping "fd"'s bmaj There have been other people reporting the same on the mailinglists but nobody was able to explain them... Any hints? -Andre To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jul 30 11: 4: 2 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (critter.freebsd.dk [212.242.40.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37E3437B515 for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2000 11:03:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA00250; Sun, 30 Jul 2000 20:03:54 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) To: Andre Albsmeier Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: "fd" is usurping "fd"'s ... In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 30 Jul 2000 19:16:53 +0200." <20000730191653.A74599@curry.mchp.siemens.de> Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 20:03:54 +0200 Message-ID: <248.964980234@critter.freebsd.dk> From: Poul-Henning Kamp Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <20000730191653.A74599@curry.mchp.siemens.de>, Andre Albsmeier writes: >[CC'ed to phk since he commited the warning message to > sys/kern/kern_conf.c so he probably knows about this :-) ] > >When playing around with 4.1-STABLE, I get these >messages during boot: > >fdc0: at port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa0 >fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold >fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0 >fd1: <1200-KB 5.25" drive> on fdc0 drive 1 >WARNING: "fd" is usurping "fd"'s cdevsw[] >WARNING: "fd" is usurping "fd"'s bmaj > >There have been other people reporting the same on the >mailinglists but nobody was able to explain them... They are non-fatal warnings that the cdevsw registration happens twice in the fd driver. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 phk@FreeBSD.ORG | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD coreteam member | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jul 30 11:20:59 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.bezeqint.net (mail-a.bezeqint.net [192.115.106.23]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AB7737B6C6 for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2000 11:20:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nimrodm@bezeqint.net) Received: from bsd.net.il ([212.179.173.162]) by mail.bezeqint.net (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.2000.03.23.18.03.p10) with ESMTP id <0FYI004NBW85G4@mail.bezeqint.net> for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org; Sun, 30 Jul 2000 21:19:17 +0300 (IDT) Received: (from nimrodm@localhost) by bsd.net.il (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA00404 for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org; Sun, 30 Jul 2000 21:13:14 +0300 (IDT envelope-from nimrodm) Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 21:13:14 +0300 From: Nimrod Mesika Subject: ipfw: setsockopt(IP_FW_ADD): Invalid argument To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Reply-To: nimrodm@email.com Message-id: <20000730211314.A367@localhost.bsd.net.il> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-disposition: inline Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I cvsup'ed yesterday (29/7/2000) rebuilt world and kernel and now it seems like IPFW refuses to add new rules: #ipfw list 65535 allow ip from any to any ## Dynamic rules: 00000 0 0 (T 0, # 0) ty 0 ip, 0.0.0.0 0 <-> 0.0.0.0 0 #ipfw add 50 deny ip from any to any 00050 deny ip from any to any ipfw: setsockopt(IP_FW_ADD): Invalid argument #dmesg ... DUMMYNET initialized (000608) IP packet filtering initialized, divert enabled, rule-based forwarding enabled, default to accept, unlimited logging ... Anyone else experiencing the same problem? -- Nimrod. http://www.geocities.com/rodd_27 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jul 30 12:51:23 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from turtle.looksharp.net (cc360882-a.strhg1.mi.home.com [24.2.221.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E8F237B741; Sun, 30 Jul 2000 12:51:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bsdx@looksharp.net) Received: from localhost (bsdx@localhost) by turtle.looksharp.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA87963; Sun, 30 Jul 2000 15:51:03 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bsdx@looksharp.net) Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 15:51:03 -0400 (EDT) From: Adam To: nimrodm@email.com Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, billf@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ipfw: setsockopt(IP_FW_ADD): Invalid argument In-Reply-To: <20000730211314.A367@localhost.bsd.net.il> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Can you post your config file? I tried to mimic the parts from dmesg you pasted with kernel options in my kernel from approx 2am 29th EST but I dont get the error or the part about Dynamic rules. On Sun, 30 Jul 2000, Nimrod Mesika wrote: >I cvsup'ed yesterday (29/7/2000) rebuilt world and kernel and now it >seems like IPFW refuses to add new rules: > >#ipfw list >65535 allow ip from any to any >## Dynamic rules: >00000 0 0 (T 0, # 0) ty 0 ip, 0.0.0.0 0 <-> 0.0.0.0 0 > > >#ipfw add 50 deny ip from any to any >00050 deny ip from any to any >ipfw: setsockopt(IP_FW_ADD): Invalid argument > >#dmesg >... >DUMMYNET initialized (000608) >IP packet filtering initialized, divert enabled, rule-based >forwarding enabled, default to accept, unlimited logging >... > > >Anyone else experiencing the same problem? > >-- >Nimrod. >http://www.geocities.com/rodd_27 > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jul 30 13: 0:36 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.bezeqint.net (mail-a.bezeqint.net [192.115.106.23]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCCED37B73A for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2000 13:00:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nimrodm@bezeqint.net) Received: from bsd.net.il ([212.179.173.162]) by mail.bezeqint.net (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.2000.03.23.18.03.p10) with ESMTP id <0FYJ009LB0UEPL@mail.bezeqint.net> for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Sun, 30 Jul 2000 22:59:02 +0300 (IDT) Received: (from nimrodm@localhost) by bsd.net.il (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA02958 for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Sun, 30 Jul 2000 22:55:53 +0300 (IDT envelope-from nimrodm) Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 22:55:53 +0300 From: Nimrod Mesika Subject: Re: ipfw: setsockopt(IP_FW_ADD): Invalid argument In-reply-to: ; from bsdx@looksharp.net on Sun, Jul 30, 2000 at 03:51:03PM -0400 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: nimrodm@email.com Message-id: <20000730225553.A2934@localhost.bsd.net.il> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-disposition: inline Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i References: <20000730211314.A367@localhost.bsd.net.il> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Jul 30, 2000 at 03:51:03PM -0400, Adam wrote: > Can you post your config file? I tried to mimic the parts from > dmesg you pasted with kernel options in my kernel from approx 2am > 29th EST but I dont get the error or the part about Dynamic rules. Well, I can send you the whole file but what seems relevant is the following: options IPFIREWALL options IPFIREWALL_DEFAULT_TO_ACCEPT options IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE options IPFIREWALL_FORWARD options IPDIVERT options TCPDEBUG options SOFTUPDATES options DUMMYNET DEFAULT_TO_ACCEPT was added after the error was discovered (can't connect to the net as the default was deny all). I also tried compiling without IPFIREWALL_FORWARD (this was my latest addition just after I cvsup'ed). Same results. -- Nimrod. http://www.geocities.com/rodd_27 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jul 30 13: 3:20 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from 184.215.6.64.reflexcom.com (184.215.6.64.reflexcom.com [64.6.215.184]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C367637B768 for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2000 13:03:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cjc@184.215.6.64.reflexcom.com) Received: (from cjc@localhost) by 184.215.6.64.reflexcom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA25156; Sun, 30 Jul 2000 13:03:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cjc) Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 00:11:00 -0700 From: "Crist J. Clark" To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Telnet Problem Message-ID: <20000730001100.G7953@cjc-desktop.reflexcom.com> Reply-To: cjclark@alum.mit.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i Status: RO Lines: 30 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have been having some trouble with telnet on a specific machine since a make-world a week ago. I've traced the problem to something specifically to do with the "secure" version of telnet, which is the one that ends up getting installed. If I go up into the object tree to check the "regular" telnet out, [101:~] cd /usr/obj/usr/src/usr.bin/telnet [102:/usr/obj/usr/src/usr.bin/telnet] ./telnet nsmail Trying 1.2.3.4... Connected to nsmail.myorg.org Escape character is '^]'. login: But if I go to secure telnet, [103:/usr/obj/usr/src/usr.bin/telnet] cd ../../secure/usr.bin/telnet [104:/usr/obj/usr/src/secure/usr.bin/telnet] ./telnet nsmail nsmail: No address associated with hostname It seems like the host lookup is broken. Note that those commands really were run back-to-back. The fact that one works and that all other commands do not seem to have trouble with host lookups makes me think the problem is with the secure telnet. Any ideas what to do? I did rebuild the secure telnet, no joy. Didn't do a complete make-world, not without some hope it might help. -- Crist J. Clark cjclark@alum.mit.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jul 30 13:10:37 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from turtle.looksharp.net (cc360882-a.strhg1.mi.home.com [24.2.221.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98D0537B768 for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2000 13:10:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bsdx@looksharp.net) Received: from localhost (bsdx@localhost) by turtle.looksharp.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA88110 for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2000 16:10:37 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bsdx@looksharp.net) Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 16:10:37 -0400 (EDT) From: Adam To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: more Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, in 4.1-stable today with a build from the 29th I noticed that invoking less as more doesnt emulate the function of the b key as more would have. It just beeps whereas more would go back a page. I realize I could use pageup for this but it just suprised me and wanted to bring it up incase someone felt it was worth correcting. Thanks. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jul 30 13:12:39 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp1.xs4all.nl (smtp1.xs4all.nl [194.109.127.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F246B37B53E for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2000 13:12:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Info@lawnet.xs4all.nl) Received: from list1.xs4all.nl (list1.xs4all.nl [194.109.6.52]) by smtp1.xs4all.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA28880 for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2000 22:12:34 +0200 (CEST) Received: from gateway.lawnet.xs4all.nl (root@lawnet.xs4all.nl [194.109.54.179]) by list1.xs4all.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA12335 for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2000 22:12:33 +0200 (CEST) Received: from lawwnt01.lawnet.xs4all.nl (lawwnt01.lawnet.xs4all.nl [172.16.200.1]) by gateway.lawnet.xs4all.nl (8.9.2/8.9.2/[Lawnet]-1999010301) with ESMTP id WAA00449 for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2000 22:10:19 +0200 (CEST) Received: by lawwnt01.lawnet.xs4all.nl with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id <3XK3WLK3>; Sun, 30 Jul 2000 22:07:50 +0200 Message-ID: From: Info To: "'freebsd-stable@freebsd.org'" Subject: Don't want BIND and Ipfilter to compile when making world Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 22:07:46 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi All, I have a FreeBSD Stable 3.4 system running with Bind 8.2.2 and Ipfilter 3.3.16. I want to Cvsup this system, but I don't want to compile the "contrib stuff". What do I have to do to contol what is being build? Is it possible to say this program is build and that not? I just want the minimal nessesary to upgrade. Al the programs or servers run on a system I compile myself from a downloaded tar file. Many thanx in advance. Lars Wittebrood. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jul 30 13:18:22 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pawn.primelocation.net (pawn.primelocation.net [205.161.238.235]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AC2937B53B for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2000 13:18:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cdf.lists@fxp.org) Received: by pawn.primelocation.net (Postfix, from userid 1016) id 2A3FE9B1C; Sun, 30 Jul 2000 16:18:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pawn.primelocation.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CA56BA11; Sun, 30 Jul 2000 16:18:18 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 16:18:18 -0400 (EDT) From: "Chris D. Faulhaber" X-Sender: cdf.lists@pawn.primelocation.net To: Info Cc: "'freebsd-stable@freebsd.org'" Subject: Re: Don't want BIND and Ipfilter to compile when making world In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 30 Jul 2000, Info wrote: > Hi All, > > I have a FreeBSD Stable 3.4 system running with Bind 8.2.2 and Ipfilter > 3.3.16. I want to Cvsup this system, but I don't want to compile the > "contrib stuff". What do I have to do to contol what is being build? Is it > possible to say this program is build and that not? I just want the minimal > nessesary to upgrade. Al the programs or servers run on a system I compile > myself from a downloaded tar file. > See /etc/make.conf (3.x) or /etc/defaults/make.conf (4.x, 5.x). NO_BIND can be set to not build bind. There are no hooks (yet) to not build ipfilter, though patches are accepted :) ----- Chris D. Faulhaber - jedgar@fxp.org - jedgar@FreeBSD.org -------------------------------------------------------- FreeBSD: The Power To Serve - http://www.FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jul 30 13:25:20 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from piranha.amis.net (piranha.amis.net [212.18.32.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC34937B53B for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2000 13:25:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from blaz@amis.net) Received: from titanic.medinet.si (titanic.medinet.si [212.18.32.66]) by piranha.amis.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CFB55D1A; Sun, 30 Jul 2000 22:25:09 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 22:25:09 +0200 (CEST) From: Blaz Zupan X-Sender: blaz@titanic.medinet.si To: Adam Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: more In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Hi, in 4.1-stable today with a build from the 29th I > noticed that invoking less as more doesnt emulate the function of the b > key as more would have. It just beeps whereas more would go back a > page. I realize I could use pageup for this but it just suprised me and > wanted to bring it up incase someone felt it was worth > correcting. Thanks. It works just fine for me. Blaz Zupan, Medinet d.o.o, Linhartova 21, 2000 Maribor, Slovenia E-mail: blaz@amis.net, Tel: +386-2-320-6320, Fax: +386-2-320-6325 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jul 30 13:25:39 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mailhost01.reflexnet.net (mailhost01.reflexnet.net [64.6.192.82]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 782F937B53B for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2000 13:25:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cjc@184.215.6.64.reflexcom.com) Received: from 184.215.6.64.reflexcom.com ([64.6.215.184]) by mailhost01.reflexnet.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.197.19); Sun, 30 Jul 2000 13:24:07 -0700 Received: (from cjc@localhost) by 184.215.6.64.reflexcom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA25331; Sun, 30 Jul 2000 13:25:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cjc) Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 00:11:00 -0700 From: "Crist J. Clark" To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Telnet Problem Message-ID: <20000730001100.G7953@cjc-desktop.reflexcom.com> Reply-To: cjclark@alum.mit.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i Status: RO Lines: 30 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG [This mail was resent due to delivery problems. If you have received it twice, please ignore.] I have been having some trouble with telnet on a specific machine since a make-world a week ago. I've traced the problem to something specifically to do with the "secure" version of telnet, which is the one that ends up getting installed. If I go up into the object tree to check the "regular" telnet out, [101:~] cd /usr/obj/usr/src/usr.bin/telnet [102:/usr/obj/usr/src/usr.bin/telnet] ./telnet nsmail Trying 1.2.3.4... Connected to nsmail.myorg.org Escape character is '^]'. login: But if I go to secure telnet, [103:/usr/obj/usr/src/usr.bin/telnet] cd ../../secure/usr.bin/telnet [104:/usr/obj/usr/src/secure/usr.bin/telnet] ./telnet nsmail nsmail: No address associated with hostname It seems like the host lookup is broken. Note that those commands really were run back-to-back. The fact that one works and that all other commands do not seem to have trouble with host lookups makes me think the problem is with the secure telnet. Any ideas what to do? I did rebuild the secure telnet, no joy. Didn't do a complete make-world, not without some hope it might help. -- Crist J. Clark cjclark@alum.mit.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jul 30 13:35: 7 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from turtle.looksharp.net (cc360882-a.strhg1.mi.home.com [24.2.221.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9850737B8AB for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2000 13:34:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bsdx@looksharp.net) Received: from localhost (bsdx@localhost) by turtle.looksharp.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA88317; Sun, 30 Jul 2000 16:34:51 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bsdx@looksharp.net) Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 16:34:51 -0400 (EDT) From: Adam To: nimrodm@email.com Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ipfw: setsockopt(IP_FW_ADD): Invalid argument In-Reply-To: <20000730225553.A2934@localhost.bsd.net.il> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 30 Jul 2000, Nimrod Mesika wrote: >On Sun, Jul 30, 2000 at 03:51:03PM -0400, Adam wrote: >> Can you post your config file? I tried to mimic the parts from >> dmesg you pasted with kernel options in my kernel from approx 2am >> 29th EST but I dont get the error or the part about Dynamic rules. > >Well, I can send you the whole file but what seems relevant >is the following: > >options IPFIREWALL >options IPFIREWALL_DEFAULT_TO_ACCEPT >options IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE >options IPFIREWALL_FORWARD >options IPDIVERT >options TCPDEBUG >options SOFTUPDATES >options DUMMYNET > > >DEFAULT_TO_ACCEPT was added after the error was discovered (can't >connect to the net as the default was deny all). > >I also tried compiling without IPFIREWALL_FORWARD (this was my >latest addition just after I cvsup'ed). Same results. No idea, it works for me. I still dont know how you are getting the ## Dynamic rules: 00000 0 0 (T 0, # 0) ty 0 ip, 0.0.0.0 0 <-> 0.0.0.0 0 part either. Perhaps try cvsupping and building the kernel and the ipfw bin by hand? When I cvsupped just now, most of the changes were in src/sys so it probably wouldnt need a full buildworld if you wanted to update the rest manually. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jul 30 13:41:26 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from turtle.looksharp.net (cc360882-a.strhg1.mi.home.com [24.2.221.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B4AE37B74E for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2000 13:41:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bsdx@looksharp.net) Received: from localhost (bsdx@localhost) by turtle.looksharp.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA88353 for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2000 16:41:29 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bsdx@looksharp.net) Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 16:41:29 -0400 (EDT) From: Adam To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Nevermind Re: more In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 30 Jul 2000, Blaz Zupan wrote: >> Hi, in 4.1-stable today with a build from the 29th I >> noticed that invoking less as more doesnt emulate the function of the b >> key as more would have. It just beeps whereas more would go back a >> page. I realize I could use pageup for this but it just suprised me and >> wanted to bring it up incase someone felt it was worth >> correcting. Thanks. > >It works just fine for me. Bleh. Me too now. I have no explanation. *puts down crack pipe* To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jul 30 13:57:25 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mailhost01.reflexnet.net (mailhost01.reflexnet.net [64.6.192.82]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D9D837B5E2 for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2000 13:57:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cjc@184.215.6.64.reflexcom.com) Received: from 184.215.6.64.reflexcom.com ([64.6.215.184]) by mailhost01.reflexnet.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.197.19); Sun, 30 Jul 2000 13:56:21 -0700 Received: (from cjc@localhost) by 184.215.6.64.reflexcom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA25521; Sun, 30 Jul 2000 13:57:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cjc) Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 12:35:25 -0700 From: "Crist J. Clark" To: Arcady Genkin Cc: FreeBSD-Stable Subject: Re: ... And a core dump in security check output (was: ipfw core dumped on 4.1-S) Message-ID: <20000730123525.L7953@cjc-desktop.reflexcom.com> Reply-To: cjclark@alum.mit.edu References: <87hf98ksnm.fsf@tea.thpoon.com> <87d7jwkrz7.fsf@tea.thpoon.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <87d7jwkrz7.fsf@tea.thpoon.com>; from antipode@thpoon.com on Sun, Jul 30, 2000 at 03:16:44AM -0400 Status: RO Lines: 26 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG [This mail was resent due to delivery problems. If you have received it twice, please ignore. Sorry for any inconvenience.] On Sun, Jul 30, 2000 at 03:16:44AM -0400, Arcady Genkin wrote: > Arcady Genkin writes: > > > I upgraded 4.0 -> 4.1 today via make world. > > > > I just noticed a message that ipfw core dumped: > > > > Jul 30 02:06:42 soup /kernel: pid 21706 (ipfw), uid 0: exited on \ > > signal 11 (core dumped) > > > > Do I remember correctly that signal 11 is usually hardware-related? > > FWIW, I couldn't find the core file. Where would it get written? > > Sorry to follow up to myself, but I just received email from cron with > security check output, and have a coredump in there too: > > ,---- > | checking for passwordless accounts: > | Segmentation fault - core dumped > `---- > > What's going on? Kernel and userland out of sync? -- Crist J. Clark cjclark@alum.mit.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jul 30 13:57:48 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mailhost01.reflexnet.net (mailhost01.reflexnet.net [64.6.192.82]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53E5D37B54D for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2000 13:57:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cjc@184.215.6.64.reflexcom.com) Received: from 184.215.6.64.reflexcom.com ([64.6.215.184]) by mailhost01.reflexnet.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.197.19); Sun, 30 Jul 2000 13:56:32 -0700 Received: (from cjc@localhost) by 184.215.6.64.reflexcom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA25536; Sun, 30 Jul 2000 13:57:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cjc) Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 00:11:00 -0700 From: "Crist J. Clark" To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Telnet Problem Message-ID: <20000730001100.G7953@cjc-desktop.reflexcom.com> Reply-To: cjclark@alum.mit.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i Status: RO Lines: 30 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG [This mail was resent due to delivery problems. If you have received it twice, please ignore. Sorry for any inconvenience.] I have been having some trouble with telnet on a specific machine since a make-world a week ago. I've traced the problem to something specifically to do with the "secure" version of telnet, which is the one that ends up getting installed. If I go up into the object tree to check the "regular" telnet out, [101:~] cd /usr/obj/usr/src/usr.bin/telnet [102:/usr/obj/usr/src/usr.bin/telnet] ./telnet nsmail Trying 1.2.3.4... Connected to nsmail.myorg.org Escape character is '^]'. login: But if I go to secure telnet, [103:/usr/obj/usr/src/usr.bin/telnet] cd ../../secure/usr.bin/telnet [104:/usr/obj/usr/src/secure/usr.bin/telnet] ./telnet nsmail nsmail: No address associated with hostname It seems like the host lookup is broken. Note that those commands really were run back-to-back. The fact that one works and that all other commands do not seem to have trouble with host lookups makes me think the problem is with the secure telnet. Any ideas what to do? I did rebuild the secure telnet, no joy. Didn't do a complete make-world, not without some hope it might help. -- Crist J. Clark cjclark@alum.mit.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jul 30 15:16:19 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF87C37B7F1; Sun, 30 Jul 2000 15:16:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (kris@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id PAA09749; Sun, 30 Jul 2000 15:16:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: kris owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 15:16:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Kris Kennaway To: Mike Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SSH in 4.1 RELEASE for NonUS users In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.2.20000729172836.00b18c60@briz.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 29 Jul 2000, Mike wrote: > Jul 29 17:26:09 gateway sshd[1239]: ** RSAPrivateDecrypt: Unable to find an > RSAREF shared library (librsaref.so). Install the > /usr/ports/security/rsaref port or package and run this program again. See > the OpenSSL chapter in the FreeBSD Handbook, located at > http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/openssl.html, for more information. > Jul 29 17:26:09 gateway sshd[1239]: fatal: rsa_private_decrypt() failed From the above URL: 8.8.4. Binary Installations If your FreeBSD installation was a binary installation (e.g., installed from the Walnut Creek CDROM, or from a snapshot downloaded from ftp.FreeBSD.org) and you selected to install the crypto collection, then the sysinstall utility will automatically select the correct version to install during the installation process. If the international version was selected but could not be installed during sysinstall (e.g. you have not configured network access, and the version must be downloaded from a FTP site) then you can add the international RSA library after installation as a package. The librsaintl package contains the RSA code for International (non-USA) users. This is not legal for use in the USA, but international users should use this version because the RSA implementation is faster and more flexible. It is available from ftp.internat.FreeBSD.org and does not require RSAREF. --- In fact I think Jordan never wrote the code to select the international crypto distribution, but the second paragraph is correct. Kris -- In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. -- Charles Forsythe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jul 30 15:19:17 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F94337B7F5; Sun, 30 Jul 2000 15:19:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (kris@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id PAA10059; Sun, 30 Jul 2000 15:19:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: kris owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 15:19:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Kris Kennaway To: Arcady Genkin Cc: FreeBSD-Stable Subject: Re: ipfw core dumped on 4.1-S In-Reply-To: <87hf98ksnm.fsf@tea.thpoon.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 30 Jul 2000, Arcady Genkin wrote: > I upgraded 4.0 -> 4.1 today via make world. > > I just noticed a message that ipfw core dumped: This sometimes happens if your ipfw(8) binary is out of sync with the kernel it's running on. You did rebuild the kernel with the same sources (not e.g. after doing a cvsup in the middle), of course? Kris -- In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. -- Charles Forsythe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jul 30 15:21: 1 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1879037B7F5; Sun, 30 Jul 2000 15:20:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (kris@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id PAA10224; Sun, 30 Jul 2000 15:20:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: kris owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 15:20:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Kris Kennaway To: cjclark@alum.mit.edu Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Telnet Problem In-Reply-To: <20000730001100.G7953@cjc-desktop.reflexcom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 30 Jul 2000, Crist J. Clark wrote: > Any ideas what to do? I did rebuild the secure telnet, no joy. Didn't > do a complete make-world, not without some hope it might help. Are you sure you updatecd your secure and crypto sources? This was a bug in the old version of telnet which was brought to light by the KAME upgrade prior to 4.1-R, and which is now believed fixed. Kris -- In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. -- Charles Forsythe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jul 30 15:21:41 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 656AA37B5C7; Sun, 30 Jul 2000 15:21:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (kris@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id PAA10294; Sun, 30 Jul 2000 15:21:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: kris owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 15:21:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Kris Kennaway To: Jun Kuriyama Cc: jkh@zippy.osd.bsdi.com, stable@FreeBSD.org, committers@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: src code freeze is over for RELENG_4 In-Reply-To: <7mya2jpy50.wl@waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 30 Jul 2000, Jun Kuriyama wrote: > At Fri, 28 Jul 2000 13:12:39 -0700, > Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > > Is it worth doing a (non-CD) 4.1.5 release the day after the patent expires? > > > > Why? It's not as if the RSA code is bundled with the system, and to > > get it into such a state would probably take more than a day. :-) > > Does this mean snapshot on releng4.FreeBSD.org will have int'l version > of RSA code (compiled librsa) after September? Yes. Kris -- In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. -- Charles Forsythe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jul 30 15:23: 9 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mailhost01.reflexnet.net (mailhost01.reflexnet.net [64.6.192.82]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C81B337BA2A for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2000 15:23:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cjc@184.215.6.64.reflexcom.com) Received: from 184.215.6.64.reflexcom.com ([64.6.215.184]) by mailhost01.reflexnet.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.197.19); Sun, 30 Jul 2000 15:20:34 -0700 Received: (from cjc@localhost) by 184.215.6.64.reflexcom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA26080 for stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Sun, 30 Jul 2000 15:21:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cjc) Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 12:35:25 -0700 From: "Crist J. Clark" To: Arcady Genkin Cc: FreeBSD-Stable Subject: Re: ... And a core dump in security check output (was: ipfw core dumped on 4.1-S) Message-ID: <20000730123525.L7953@cjc-desktop.reflexcom.com> Reply-To: cjclark@alum.mit.edu References: <87hf98ksnm.fsf@tea.thpoon.com> <87d7jwkrz7.fsf@tea.thpoon.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <87d7jwkrz7.fsf@tea.thpoon.com>; from antipode@thpoon.com on Sun, Jul 30, 2000 at 03:16:44AM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG [This mail was resent due to delivery problems. If you have received it twice, please ignore.] On Sun, Jul 30, 2000 at 03:16:44AM -0400, Arcady Genkin wrote: > Arcady Genkin writes: > > > I upgraded 4.0 -> 4.1 today via make world. > > > > I just noticed a message that ipfw core dumped: > > > > Jul 30 02:06:42 soup /kernel: pid 21706 (ipfw), uid 0: exited on \ > > signal 11 (core dumped) > > > > Do I remember correctly that signal 11 is usually hardware-related? > > FWIW, I couldn't find the core file. Where would it get written? > > Sorry to follow up to myself, but I just received email from cron with > security check output, and have a coredump in there too: > > ,---- > | checking for passwordless accounts: > | Segmentation fault - core dumped > `---- > > What's going on? Kernel and userland out of sync? -- Crist J. Clark cjclark@alum.mit.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jul 30 15:23:28 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from zippy.osd.bsdi.com (zippy.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8972637BCFB; Sun, 30 Jul 2000 15:23:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.osd.bsdi.com) Received: from localhost (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.osd.bsdi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA45327; Sun, 30 Jul 2000 15:23:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.osd.bsdi.com) To: Kris Kennaway Cc: Mike , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: SSH in 4.1 RELEASE for NonUS users In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 30 Jul 2000 15:16:16 PDT." Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 15:23:08 -0700 Message-ID: <45324.964995788@localhost> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > In fact I think Jordan never wrote the code to select the international > crypto distribution, but the second paragraph is correct. Well, I did write it, it just didn't work. :-) Once I figured out that there was no easy way around the "interactive package problem" (which rsaref is), I nuked the code from sysinstall and left it as an add-on. - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jul 30 15:27: 8 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 233C437BEEF; Sun, 30 Jul 2000 15:27:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (kris@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id PAA10717; Sun, 30 Jul 2000 15:27:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: kris owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 15:27:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Kris Kennaway To: stephen@math.missouri.edu Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: slight error in make.conf re openssl In-Reply-To: <39825632.C9616CBB@math.missouri.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 28 Jul 2000 stephen@math.missouri.edu wrote: > In /etc/defaults/make.conf it says > > #NO_OPENSSH= true # do not build OpenSSH > #NO_OPENSSL= true # do not build OpenSSL (implies NO_OPENSSH) > > So I put in /etc/make.conf > NO_OPENSSL > and got a compile error. Adding > NO_OPENSSH > cleared up the problem. Fixed - thanks! Kris -- In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. -- Charles Forsythe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jul 30 15:29:52 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from soup.thpoon.com (cr103675-a.bloor1.on.wave.home.com [24.114.152.71]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1903837BBF5 for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2000 15:29:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from antipode@thpoon.com) Received: (qmail 514 invoked from network); 30 Jul 2000 22:29:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO tea.thpoon.com) (mail@192.168.1.2) by cr103675-a.bloor1.on.wave.home.com with SMTP; 30 Jul 2000 22:29:46 -0000 Received: from antipode by tea.thpoon.com with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 13J1ac-0000Sy-00; Sun, 30 Jul 2000 18:29:46 -0400 To: Kris Kennaway Cc: FreeBSD-Stable Subject: Re: ipfw core dumped on 4.1-S References: X-Face: 0=A/O5-+sE[Tf%X>rYr?Y5LD4,:^'jaJ!4jC&UR*ZrrK2>^`g22Qeb]!:d;}2YJ|Hq"LHdF OX`jWX|AT-WVFQ(TPhFVak)0nt$aEdlOq=1~D,:\z5QlVOrZ2(H,mKg=Xr|'VlHA="r Organization: thpoon.com From: Arcady Genkin Date: 30 Jul 2000 18:29:46 -0400 In-Reply-To: Kris Kennaway's message of "Sun, 30 Jul 2000 15:19:13 -0700 (PDT)" Message-ID: <87snsr5k11.fsf@tea.thpoon.com> Lines: 21 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0807 (Gnus v5.8.7) XEmacs/21.1 (Capitol Reef) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Kris Kennaway writes: > > I upgraded 4.0 -> 4.1 today via make world. > > > > I just noticed a message that ipfw core dumped: > > This sometimes happens if your ipfw(8) binary is out of sync with the > kernel it's running on. You did rebuild the kernel with the same sources > (not e.g. after doing a cvsup in the middle), of course? Yeah, I did everything as the doctor prescribed (make buildworld, make buildkernel, installkernel, installworld). ;^) However, I just recompiled everything in /sbin just in case, and recompiled my kernel. Before I isolated the command from /etc/security which caused the core dump; all works fine now. Thank you for your replies! -- Arcady Genkin Thanks God I'm still an atheist! -- Luis Bunuel To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jul 30 15:31:52 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4EAC37B8C2; Sun, 30 Jul 2000 15:31:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (kris@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id PAA11101; Sun, 30 Jul 2000 15:31:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: kris owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 15:31:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Kris Kennaway To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Cc: Mike , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: SSH in 4.1 RELEASE for NonUS users In-Reply-To: <45324.964995788@localhost> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 30 Jul 2000, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > In fact I think Jordan never wrote the code to select the international > > crypto distribution, but the second paragraph is correct. > > Well, I did write it, it just didn't work. :-) Once I figured out that > there was no easy way around the "interactive package problem" (which > rsaref is), I nuked the code from sysinstall and left it as an add-on. I'm talking about the code which would repoint the installer at an international site if doing a net-install and choosing crypto, and USA_RESIDENT selected as NO. Kris -- In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. -- Charles Forsythe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jul 30 15:36:22 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from zippy.osd.bsdi.com (zippy.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DD6D37B8E7; Sun, 30 Jul 2000 15:36:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.osd.bsdi.com) Received: from localhost (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.osd.bsdi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA45427; Sun, 30 Jul 2000 15:36:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.osd.bsdi.com) To: Kris Kennaway Cc: "Jordan K. Hubbard" , Mike , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: SSH in 4.1 RELEASE for NonUS users In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 30 Jul 2000 15:31:48 PDT." Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 15:36:05 -0700 Message-ID: <45424.964996565@localhost> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > I'm talking about the code which would repoint the installer at an > international site if doing a net-install and choosing crypto, and > USA_RESIDENT selected as NO. Ah, no. I believe that was your project. :-) - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jul 30 15:45:58 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6384C37B85E; Sun, 30 Jul 2000 15:45:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (kris@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id PAA11945; Sun, 30 Jul 2000 15:45:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: kris owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 15:45:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Kris Kennaway To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Cc: Mike , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: SSH in 4.1 RELEASE for NonUS users In-Reply-To: <45424.964996565@localhost> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 30 Jul 2000, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > I'm talking about the code which would repoint the installer at an > > international site if doing a net-install and choosing crypto, and > > USA_RESIDENT selected as NO. > > Ah, no. I believe that was your project. :-) Hey, I documented the feature..you mean that's not enough? :-) Kris -- In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. -- Charles Forsythe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jul 30 15:49:43 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.rdc1.ct.home.com (ha1.rdc1.ct.home.com [24.2.0.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75CED37B5FF for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2000 15:49:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tsikora@home.com) Received: from home.com ([24.2.168.186]) by mail.rdc1.ct.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with ESMTP id <20000730224934.ZOEK9101.mail.rdc1.ct.home.com@home.com> for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2000 15:49:34 -0700 Message-ID: <3984B1B4.FE00A377@home.com> Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 18:52:36 -0400 From: Ted Sikora Organization: Jtl Development Group X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 4.1-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en-US, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: PPPoE References: <001d01bff9f7$ce3ce980$0300a8c0@anime.ca> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------5D9A4CE94853DBE972D446E0" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------5D9A4CE94853DBE972D446E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit William Wong wrote: > > Hi there, > > Does anyone know if there are plans to support PPPoE outta the box? (without > recompiling the kernel) I'm not sure how many people are affected by this, > but not being able to do a PPPoE install from the boot disks is a bugger. > Here's a HOWTO for PPPoe -- Ted Sikora Jtl Development Group tsikora@powerusersbbs.com --------------5D9A4CE94853DBE972D446E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; name="freebsd_howto.txt" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="freebsd_howto.txt" FreeBSD PPPoE HOWTO FreeBSD Requirements for PPPoE Be sure that you have a version of userppp that supports PPPoE. Please note that userppp is included in FreeBSD. It is not add-on software. Recent FreeBSD releases should be fine. Any -CURRENT, -STABLE and -RELEASE versions of FreeBSD should be able to support PPPoE. FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT and 3.3-STABLE releases have been tested and found to work. Configuring FreeBSD Kernel for PPPoE In order to support PPPoE, three lines must be added at the end of the FreeBSD kernel file. Beginners with no idea how to compile a kernel, please read the following carefully. For more experienced users who know how to compile a kernel, just see step 3 below and add the three lines to your kernel. 1. First you must change to the kernel configuration directory: cd /usr/src/sys/i386/conf 2. In the kernel configuration directory, use your favorite text editor and edit the kernel file. For example, if you use emacs, you would type: vi KERNEL 3. Go to the end of the kernel file and add the following three lines: options NETGRAPH options NETGRAPH_PPPOE options NETGRAPH_SOCKET 4. After adding these three lines, save the modified kernel file. 5. Type this command to set the kernel configuration: config KERNEL 6. Now you must change to the kernel setup directory: cd ../../compile/KERNEL 7. In the kernel setup directory, type the following three commands: make depend make make install Your kernel is now ready for PPPoE! Configuring FreeBSD /etc/ppp/ppp.conf File To edit the /etc/ppp/ppp.conf file, just use your favorite text editor. Replace any existing file content with the lines below. Be sure the "set device PPPoE:---" line is correct for your network interface card. (We used ed1 for the NIC in this example.) Change the authname and authkey to your sympatico user id (b1xxxxxx) and your password. # /etc/ppp/ppp.conf default: set log Phase Chat LCP IPCP CCP tun command nat enable yes nat same_ports yes nat use_sockets yes set redial 15 28800 set reconnect 15 28800 pppoe: set device PPPoE:ed1: set mru 1492 set mtu 1492 set speed sync enable lqr set lqrperiod 5 set cd 5 set dial set login set timeout 0 set authname b1xxxxxx@sympatico.ca set authkey yourpassword set ifaddr 10.0.0.1/0 10.0.0.2/0 255.255.255.0 0.0.0.0 add default HISADDR enable dns # end of ppp configuration Configuring FreeBSD /etc/rc.conf File The /etc/rc.conf file should be set up as follows for the ethernet interface that goes to your DSL modem. (Again, this example uses ed1 for the NIC.) # /etc/rc.conf network_interfaces="auto" #Set network interfaces automatically ifconfig_ed1="inet 10.0.0.1 netmask 255.0.0.0 -arp up" ppp_enable="YES" #This enables PPP on startup (recommended) ppp_mode="background" ppp_profile="pppoe" #end of /etc/rc.conf Rebooting the System After you have compiled the kernel to support PPPoE and have edited the /etc/ppp/ppp.conf and /etc/rc.conf files with the right configuration, you can reboot your system. If you enabled ppp in the /etc/rc.conf as recommended, you should be connected and can now enjoy surfing the net on FreeBSD using PPPoE. Starting PPP Manually If you did not enable ppp to automatically connect on startup in the /etc/rc.conf file, you can use this command to connect to the Internet manually: ppp -background pppoe --------------5D9A4CE94853DBE972D446E0-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jul 30 15:49:50 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from fmailg1.svr.pol.co.uk (fmailg1.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.195.183]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7297937B608 for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2000 15:49:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jonathan@turnip.org.uk) Received: from [195.92.195.174] (helo=cmailg4.svr.pol.co.uk) by fmailg1.svr.pol.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #0) id 13Izdq-0004OO-00 for stable@freebsd.org; Sun, 30 Jul 2000 21:24:58 +0100 Received: from modem-137.ereinion.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.196.137] helo=mashed.turnip.org.uk) by cmailg4.svr.pol.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #0) id 13Izak-0007Rx-00; Sun, 30 Jul 2000 21:21:47 +0100 Received: from jonathan by mashed.turnip.org.uk with local (Exim 3.16 #1) id 13Izaq-00024W-00; Sun, 30 Jul 2000 21:21:52 +0100 Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 21:21:52 +0100 From: Jonathan Vaughan To: Info Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Don't want BIND and Ipfilter to compile when making world Message-ID: <20000730212152.A6915@mashed.turnip.org.uk> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.4i In-Reply-To: ; from Info@lawnet.xs4all.nl on Sun, Jul 30, 2000 at 10:07:46PM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Jul 30, 2000 at 10:07:46PM +0200, Info wrote: > I have a FreeBSD Stable 3.4 system running with Bind 8.2.2 and Ipfilter > 3.3.16. I want to Cvsup this system, but I don't want to compile the > "contrib stuff". What do I have to do to contol what is being build? Have a look at /etc/defaults/make.conf and copy the lines you want like NO_BIND= true to /etc/make.conf -- Jonathan Vaughan jonathan@turnip.org.uk PGP Key ID: 0x0AF58107 http://home.clara.net/turnip/pgp.txt | jon@pgpkey.turnip.org.uk | keyservers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jul 30 15:50:34 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from jade.chc-chimes.com (jade.chc-chimes.com [216.28.46.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD81937B608; Sun, 30 Jul 2000 15:50:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from billf@jade.chc-chimes.com) Received: by jade.chc-chimes.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 4EF3F1C65; Sun, 30 Jul 2000 18:50:31 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 18:50:31 -0400 From: Bill Fumerola To: Arcady Genkin Cc: Kris Kennaway , FreeBSD-Stable Subject: Re: ipfw core dumped on 4.1-S Message-ID: <20000730185031.V5021@jade.chc-chimes.com> References: <87snsr5k11.fsf@tea.thpoon.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <87snsr5k11.fsf@tea.thpoon.com>; from a.genkin@utoronto.ca on Sun, Jul 30, 2000 at 06:29:46PM -0400 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.3-STABLE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Jul 30, 2000 at 06:29:46PM -0400, Arcady Genkin wrote: > > This sometimes happens if your ipfw(8) binary is out of sync with the > > kernel it's running on. You did rebuild the kernel with the same sources > > (not e.g. after doing a cvsup in the middle), of course? > > Yeah, I did everything as the doctor prescribed (make buildworld, make > buildkernel, installkernel, installworld). ;^) > > However, I just recompiled everything in /sbin just in case, and > recompiled my kernel. Before I isolated the command from > /etc/security which caused the core dump; all works fine now. That means that you really didn't have a ipfw(8) that was in sync with your ipfw(4) in your kernel. here's what I'm 99% sure happened: make installworld KERNEL=FOO installs /FOO and not /kernel like everyone who has ever used FreeBSD expects it to. you booted your old /kernel, even though /FOO was right there ready to be used. you probably just recompiled the kernel in place (like we traditionally used to) and then did a make install which (as POLA would tell us) installs /kernel. -- Bill Fumerola - Network Architect, BOFH / Chimes, Inc. billf@chimesnet.com / billf@FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jul 30 16:33:53 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from genius.systems.pavilion.net (genesis.tao.org.uk [194.242.131.254]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FF2B37B7F1 for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2000 16:33:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from joe@pavilion.net) Received: by genius.systems.pavilion.net (Postfix, from userid 100) id 7BE049B03; Mon, 31 Jul 2000 00:34:06 +0100 (BST) Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 00:34:06 +0100 From: Josef Karthauser To: R Joseph Wright Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Color ls Message-ID: <20000731003406.C3467@pavilion.net> Mail-Followup-To: Josef Karthauser , R Joseph Wright , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org References: <20000718140646.B76011@lunatic.oneinsane.net> <20000718145920.B94689@wopr.caltech.edu> <20000719005555.W4668@strontium.scientia.demon.co.uk> <20000718170420.A97601@wopr.caltech.edu> <20000718175525.A10074@manatee.mammalia.org> <20000719150836.K630@pavilion.net> <20000719112158.A13347@manatee.mammalia.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20000719112158.A13347@manatee.mammalia.org>; from rjoseph@mammalia.org on Wed, Jul 19, 2000 at 11:21:58AM -0700 X-NCC-RegID: uk.pavilion Organisation: Pavilion Internet plc, Lees House, 21-23 Dyke Road, Brighton, England Phone: +44-845-333-5000 Fax: +44-845-333-5001 Mobile: +44-403-596893 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Jul 19, 2000 at 11:21:58AM -0700, R Joseph Wright wrote: > > > > Colours are always a personal preference. No answer is right for everyone. > > Read the manual page for ls and define your own colours in your environment. > > > Absolutely. That's why I said (hopefully in good humor) the *default* colors > are horrid. However, you can change the defaults all you want, but you still > will not get bright color like you get with gnuls. Read the ls man page - it shows how to redefine the colours used for different things. I'm sure that you can conjour a config that makes it behave like gnuls. Joe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jul 30 17:35: 9 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freemail.aecinfo.com (host-45.toronto.bricsnet.com [209.146.217.45]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF40637B84F for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2000 17:35:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mitayai@bricsnet.com) Received: from itdept (cr592943-a.bloor1.on.wave.home.com [24.43.32.78]) by freemail.aecinfo.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA19154; Sun, 30 Jul 2000 20:38:36 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mitayai@bricsnet.com) From: "Will Mitayai Keeso Rowe" To: "Ted Sikora" , Cc: "Chat@Gtabug. Org" Subject: RE: PPPoE Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 20:41:01 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <3984B1B4.FE00A377@home.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Ted, I believe that William was requesting a method to do a net install of FreeBSD with PPPoE. So, having been stuck at one point in this same situation (i live in Toronto, Canada, and the xDSL provided by Bell Sympatico uses PPPoE) i re-post the question: Is there any possibility of PPPoE being an **installation** option. If PPPoE is your only connection option to install FreeBSD, a post-install How-To won't really help much. :-( If it's a matter of demand, there's several thousand DSL subscribers in Canada who are stuck with PPPoE... i'm sure several would love to avoid having to buy the FreeBSD CD. I'd be willing to ask them all to submit their email addresses for a group request if it would grease the wheels. Heck, i'm sure some of them would even volunteer to help out! I know i would lend whatever resources i could. :-) Regards, Mit -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG [mailto:owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Ted Sikora Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2000 6:53 PM To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: PPPoE William Wong wrote: > > Hi there, > > Does anyone know if there are plans to support PPPoE outta the box? (without > recompiling the kernel) I'm not sure how many people are affected by this, > but not being able to do a PPPoE install from the boot disks is a bugger. > Here's a HOWTO for PPPoe -- Ted Sikora Jtl Development Group tsikora@powerusersbbs.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jul 30 17:52:27 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail1.rdc2.pa.home.com (mail1.rdc2.pa.home.com [24.12.106.240]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0DD637B8BA for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2000 17:52:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from garycor@home.com) Received: from home.com ([24.3.185.85]) by mail1.rdc2.pa.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with ESMTP id <20000731005222.FOJV16837.mail1.rdc2.pa.home.com@home.com>; Sun, 30 Jul 2000 17:52:22 -0700 Message-ID: <3984CE36.1DC646BF@home.com> Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 20:54:14 -0400 From: "Gary T. Corcoran" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Will Mitayai Keeso Rowe Cc: Ted Sikora , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, "Chat@Gtabug. Org" Subject: Re: PPPoE References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Will Mitayai Keeso Rowe wrote: > > Ted, > > I believe that William was requesting a method to do a net install of > FreeBSD with PPPoE. > > So, having been stuck at one point in this same situation (i live in > Toronto, Canada, and the xDSL provided by Bell Sympatico uses PPPoE) i > re-post the question: > > Is there any possibility of PPPoE being an **installation** option. If PPPoE > is your only connection option to install FreeBSD, a post-install How-To > won't really help much. :-( > > If it's a matter of demand, there's several thousand DSL subscribers in > Canada who are stuck with PPPoE... Just FYI, Bell Atlantic (I guess they're now called Verizon) is deploying the same junk. I mean, PPPoE is *so* wasteful, with THIRTY extra bytes of overhead per frame (10 bytes of LLC/SNAP header, 14 bytes of Ethernet header, plus 6 bytes of PPPoE header), compared to direct PPP over ATM. So our northern friends are not alone in this situation... Gary To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jul 30 18: 0:58 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from nakaji.tutrp.tut.ac.jp (nakaji.tutrp.tut.ac.jp [133.15.188.118]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D235A37B756 for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2000 18:00:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nakaji@tutrp.tut.ac.jp) Received: from nakaji.tutrp.tut.ac.jp (localhost.tutrp.tut.ac.jp [127.0.0.1]) by nakaji.tutrp.tut.ac.jp (8.9.3/3.7W) with ESMTP id KAA79685 for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2000 10:00:02 +0900 (JST) To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: buildworld fails References: <87lmynge25.fsf@nakaji.tutrp.tut.ac.jp> <87aef2hoxn.fsf@nakaji.tutrp.tut.ac.jp> MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by REMI 1.14.2 - =?ISO-8859-4?Q?=22Hokuhoku-=D2?= =?ISO-8859-4?Q?shima=22?=) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII From: NAKAJI Hiroyuki Date: 31 Jul 2000 10:00:01 +0900 In-Reply-To: <87aef2hoxn.fsf@nakaji.tutrp.tut.ac.jp> (NAKAJI Hiroyuki's message of "28 Jul 2000 06:19:27 +0200") Message-ID: <87n1izf71q.fsf@nakaji.tutrp.tut.ac.jp> Lines: 19 User-Agent: T-gnus/6.14.5 (based on Gnus v5.8.7) REMI/1.14.2 (=?ISO-8859-4?Q?Hokuhoku-=D2shima?=) FLIM/1.13.2 (Kasanui) APEL/10.2 Emacs/20.7 (i386--freebsd) MULE/4.0 (HANANOEN) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >>>>> In <87aef2hoxn.fsf@nakaji.tutrp.tut.ac.jp> >>>>> nakaji@tutrp.tut.ac.jp (NAKAJI Hiroyuki) wrote: Sean> Are you building with -DNOCLEANDIR? nakaji> Ah, yes. I deleted -DNOCLEANDIR from my buildworld script and am nakaji> rebuilding world. Thanks to Matsushita-san. My repository copy was broken, I don't know why, so that my cvsupped /usr/src tree is also corrupted. I recvsupped repository from cvsup4.jp.freebsd.org and recvsupped /usr/src from localhost (it takes about 2 days). Now I cannot see the error I had seen. -- NAKAJI Hiroyuki To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jul 30 18: 7:50 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dna.tsolab.org (dna.rockefeller.edu [129.85.40.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 025A937B8A4 for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2000 18:07:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dan@dna.tsolab.org) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dna.tsolab.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id e6V15CT21809; Sun, 30 Jul 2000 21:05:12 -0400 From: "Dan Ts'o" Message-Id: <200007310105.e6V15CT21809@dna.tsolab.org> Subject: Re: PPPoE To: garycor@home.com (Gary T. Corcoran) Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 21:05:09 -0400 (EDT) Cc: mitayai@bricsnet.com, tsikora@home.com, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, chat@gtabug.org In-Reply-To: <3984CE36.1DC646BF@home.com> from "Gary T. Corcoran" at Jul 30, 0 08:54:14 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Just FYI, Bell Atlantic (I guess they're now called Verizon) is deploying > the same junk. I mean, PPPoE is *so* wasteful, with THIRTY extra bytes > of overhead per frame (10 bytes of LLC/SNAP header, 14 bytes of Ethernet > header, plus 6 bytes of PPPoE header), compared to direct PPP over ATM. > So our northern friends are not alone in this situation... My own experience with PPPoE and HellAtlantic Infospeed is absolutely horrid. It is no coincidence that BA is ranked at the absolute bottom in the national ratings on www.dslreports.com. Stay away if at all possible -- you truly don't get what you don't pay for... We are switching away from BA as fast as we can. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jul 30 18:16:43 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rollcage.bl.echidna.id.au (rollcage.bl.echidna.id.au [203.6.241.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3637A37B620 for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2000 18:16:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from carl@rollcage.bl.echidna.id.au) Received: (from carl@localhost) by rollcage.bl.echidna.id.au (8.11.0/8.11.0) id e6V1GJc24804 for stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Mon, 31 Jul 2000 11:16:19 +1000 (EST) Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 11:16:19 +1000 (EST) Message-Id: <200007310116.e6V1GJc24804@rollcage.bl.echidna.id.au> From: carl@bl.echidna.id.au To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: I broke my /dev tree, can't fsck /dev/ad0s2a, help? Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I was upgrading 4.-RELEASE to a CVSup'd 4.1 that I sucked down on Friday last week, and I fillowed the instructions in the UPDATE file, but I think I made a mistake rebuilding the devices, as when I reboot I'm getting the error can't fsck /dev/ad0s2a From the shell, I can cd into /dev and see that all the ads0's are there except ad0s2a. My /etc/fstab has that as /, so it's kinda odd that I can boot it at all? When I try and MAKEDEV /dev/ad0s2a it complains that it's a read-only filesystem. Can anyone make a suggestion for how I can get it back up? thanks Carl To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jul 30 19: 4:57 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from fw.wintelcom.net (ns1.wintelcom.net [209.1.153.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCF8F37B638 for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2000 19:04:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bright@fw.wintelcom.net) Received: (from bright@localhost) by fw.wintelcom.net (8.10.0/8.10.0) id e6V24V127608; Sun, 30 Jul 2000 19:04:31 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 19:04:31 -0700 From: Alfred Perlstein To: carl@bl.echidna.id.au Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: I broke my /dev tree, can't fsck /dev/ad0s2a, help? Message-ID: <20000730190431.W21967@fw.wintelcom.net> References: <200007310116.e6V1GJc24804@rollcage.bl.echidna.id.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.4i In-Reply-To: <200007310116.e6V1GJc24804@rollcage.bl.echidna.id.au>; from carl@bl.echidna.id.au on Mon, Jul 31, 2000 at 11:16:19AM +1000 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG * carl@bl.echidna.id.au [000730 18:18] wrote: > > > I was upgrading 4.-RELEASE to a CVSup'd 4.1 that I sucked down > on Friday last week, and I fillowed the > instructions in the UPDATE file, but I think I made a mistake > rebuilding the devices, as when I reboot I'm getting the > error > > can't fsck /dev/ad0s2a > > >From the shell, I can cd into /dev and see that all the ads0's are > there except ad0s2a. My /etc/fstab has that as /, so it's kinda > odd that I can boot it at all? When I try and MAKEDEV /dev/ad0s2a > it complains that it's a read-only filesystem. > > Can anyone make a suggestion for how I can get it back up? Mount an mfs and create the device node there. :) -Alfred To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jul 30 19:40:45 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.rdc1.ct.home.com (ha1.rdc1.ct.home.com [24.2.0.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 621A837B5AA for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2000 19:40:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tsikora@home.com) Received: from home.com ([24.2.168.186]) by mail.rdc1.ct.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with ESMTP id <20000731024040.CUMX9101.mail.rdc1.ct.home.com@home.com> for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2000 19:40:40 -0700 Message-ID: <3984E7DD.4371BE24@home.com> Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 22:43:41 -0400 From: Ted Sikora Organization: Jtl Development Group X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.74 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en-US, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: PPPoE References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Will Mitayai Keeso Rowe wrote: > > Ted, > > I believe that William was requesting a method to do a net install of > FreeBSD with PPPoE. Yeah I know. I emailed him earlier. I posted the FAQ in case anyone was having trouble with PPPoe. It would be nice to have the option on the install floppies. All the DSL users are left in the cold. It's starting to become as popular as Cable. At least in my area. -- Ted Sikora Jtl Development Group tsikora@powerusersbbs.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jul 30 19:45:20 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from wysoft.tzo.com (c481444-a.bremtn1.wa.home.com [24.12.235.202]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10DC737B980 for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2000 19:45:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wysoft@wysoft.tzo.com) Received: from localhost (wysoft@localhost) by wysoft.tzo.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id e6V2e1L42658; Sun, 30 Jul 2000 19:40:01 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 19:40:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeff Wyman To: carl@bl.echidna.id.au Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: I broke my /dev tree, can't fsck /dev/ad0s2a, help? In-Reply-To: <200007310116.e6V1GJc24804@rollcage.bl.echidna.id.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > >From the shell, I can cd into /dev and see that all the ads0's are > there except ad0s2a. My /etc/fstab has that as /, so it's kinda > odd that I can boot it at all? When I try and MAKEDEV /dev/ad0s2a > it complains that it's a read-only filesystem. > > Can anyone make a suggestion for how I can get it back up? mount -f / To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jul 30 19:48:46 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.rdc1.ct.home.com (ha1.rdc1.ct.home.com [24.2.0.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BC4E37B98F for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2000 19:48:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tsikora@home.com) Received: from home.com ([24.2.168.186]) by mail.rdc1.ct.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with ESMTP id <20000731024839.CYLS9101.mail.rdc1.ct.home.com@home.com> for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2000 19:48:39 -0700 Message-ID: <3984E9BC.A27E0C8E@home.com> Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 22:51:40 -0400 From: Ted Sikora Organization: Jtl Development Group X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.74 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en-US, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: PPPoE References: <200007310105.e6V15CT21809@dna.tsolab.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Dan Ts'o wrote: > > > Just FYI, Bell Atlantic (I guess they're now called Verizon) is deploying > > the same junk. I mean, PPPoE is *so* wasteful, with THIRTY extra bytes > > of overhead per frame (10 bytes of LLC/SNAP header, 14 bytes of Ethernet > > header, plus 6 bytes of PPPoE header), compared to direct PPP over ATM. > > So our northern friends are not alone in this situation... > > My own experience with PPPoE and HellAtlantic Infospeed is > absolutely horrid. It is no coincidence that BA is ranked at the > absolute bottom in the national ratings on www.dslreports.com. Stay > away if at all possible -- you truly don't get what you don't pay for... > We are switching away from BA as fast as we can. > They have SNET/SBC in my area. According to them it uses DHCP not PPPoe.(Yet their faq says PPPoe?) I ordered it for the 14th out of curiosity. See how it stands up to cable. Anyone have experience with SNET DSL? I ordered it with NTPLEX.net as my ISP. You can chose your own ISP. -- Ted Sikora Jtl Development Group tsikora@powerusersbbs.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jul 30 20:17:47 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.rdc1.ct.home.com (ha1.rdc1.ct.home.com [24.2.0.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFAEE37B92A for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2000 20:17:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tsikora@home.com) Received: from home.com ([24.2.168.186]) by mail.rdc1.ct.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with ESMTP id <20000731031742.DJBF9101.mail.rdc1.ct.home.com@home.com> for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2000 20:17:42 -0700 Message-ID: <3984F08B.B5574BE4@home.com> Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 23:20:43 -0400 From: Ted Sikora Organization: Jtl Development Group X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.74 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en-US, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: PPPoE References: <200007310105.e6V15CT21809@dna.tsolab.org> <3984E9BC.A27E0C8E@home.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Ted Sikora wrote: > > Dan Ts'o wrote: > > > > > Just FYI, Bell Atlantic (I guess they're now called Verizon) is deploying > > > the same junk. I mean, PPPoE is *so* wasteful, with THIRTY extra bytes > > > of overhead per frame (10 bytes of LLC/SNAP header, 14 bytes of Ethernet > > > header, plus 6 bytes of PPPoE header), compared to direct PPP over ATM. > > > So our northern friends are not alone in this situation... > > > > My own experience with PPPoE and HellAtlantic Infospeed is > > absolutely horrid. It is no coincidence that BA is ranked at the > > absolute bottom in the national ratings on www.dslreports.com. Stay > > away if at all possible -- you truly don't get what you don't pay for... > > We are switching away from BA as fast as we can. > > > > They have SNET/SBC in my area. According to them it uses DHCP > not PPPoe.(Yet their faq says PPPoe?) I ordered it for the 14th > out of curiosity. See how it stands up to cable. Anyone have experience > with SNET DSL? I ordered it with NTPLEX.net as my ISP. You can chose > your own ISP. > I just checked dslreports.com not very encouraging. Not very many happy people. I guess I'll find out for myself. Recently my cable service reduced the bandwidth. Now upstreams average 16k and downstream 400k. There has to be something better. Several users on my node (all BSD/Linux users) have been enjoying our own little private network with speeds up to 900k both ways.(600k average) Now it's terrible. They now limited the internal network to 33k between users. Compared to before it's like putting us on dialups. -- Ted Sikora Jtl Development Group tsikora@powerusersbbs.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jul 30 22:13: 8 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from srcso.globis.ru (globis.ru [212.248.80.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 247BA37B8BF for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2000 22:12:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from igor@raduga.dyndns.org) Received: from raduga.dyndns.org (raduga.sochi.net [212.248.82.76]) by srcso.globis.ru (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA88042 for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2000 09:27:20 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from igor@raduga.dyndns.org) Received: (from igor@localhost) by raduga.dyndns.org (8.10.0/8.10.0) id e6V5CFs10675 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Mon, 31 Jul 2000 09:12:15 +0400 Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 09:12:15 +0400 From: Igor Roboul To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Test & MS Foxpro on Fbsd Message-ID: <20000731091215.A10642@linux.rainbow> Reply-To: igorr@crosswinds.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre4i X-Operating-System: Linux linux.rainbow 2.2.14-plus-SMP X-Best-Window-Manager: Window Maker (www.windowmaker.org) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, I have installed FreeBSD 4.0 two weeks ago (and CVSuped to 4.1) I have some questions about running FoxPro for SCO on FreeBSD. I can run it on Linux (with some problems on glibc system, for example it does not work on console but works in xterm) But I can't run it in FreeBSD (no /usr/lib/terminfo). After I had symlinked /usr/compat/linux/usr/lib/terminfo foxpro starts but exits with message "Too many open files :-( I don't REALLY need foxpro (but I think it will be very fine to port some legacy DOS apps to terminal/server environment :-) ) I'm new to FreeBSD, but I'm using Linux since 1995 -- Igor Roboul, Unix System Administrator & Programmer @ sanatorium "Raduga" http://www.brainbench.com/transcript.jsp?pid=304744 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jul 30 23: 1:26 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.flashcom.net (3ff83059.dsl.flashcom.net [63.248.48.89]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B5A837B80E for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2000 23:01:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cgaff@mail.flashcom.net) Received: (from cgaff@localhost) by mail.flashcom.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA08019 for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Mon, 31 Jul 2000 00:56:30 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from cgaff) Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 00:56:30 -0500 From: "Corey G." To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Upgrade procedures Message-ID: <20000731005630.A89962@flashcom.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.4i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I am just a little puzzled on the best method for upgrading FreeBSD. For this question I would be most concerned with the latest methods such as an upgrade from 4.0 to 4.1. Would I be correct in saying that burning a CD and using sysinstall would be the correct procedure? I remember seeing a warning somewhere that mentioned sysinstall must be upgraded first before using this method. I may have read it wrong but it sounded this way. If this is true I am unable to find the exact procedure for doing this. I believe it's upgraded when /usr/src is upgraded but I am not entirely sure. Would it be necessary to first cvsup src and rebuild world or should I just use sysinstall to do the upgrade and later upgrade /usr/src? I successfully upgraded using the following steps although they may be somewhat incorrect. 1. did a cvsup of src-all 2. did a make buildworld 3. did a make installworld 4. followed the procedures in the handbook for upgrading /etc and such 5. rebuilt the kernel and rebooted 6. used sysinstall to upgrade the rest of the system If using sysinstall does not upgrade sources will compiling a new kernel still grab the correct source during the compile? Does this look correct? The handbook does not describe this method in such detail. Thanks, -- Best Regards, Corey To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 31 0:35: 6 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from xocah.dhs.org (s210-181-113-213.thrunet.ne.kr [210.181.113.213]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7196237BB50 for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2000 00:35:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tsoi@xocah.dhs.org) Received: (from tsoi@localhost) by xocah.dhs.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA35588 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Mon, 31 Jul 2000 16:35:00 +0900 (KST) (envelope-from tsoi) Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 16:35:00 +0900 From: "H . S . YOON" To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Does anyone succeed on making world from 3.5S to 4.1S ? Message-ID: <20000731163500.A35564@xocah.dhs.org> Reply-To: "H . S . YOON" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.4i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Does anyone succeed on making world from 3.5S to 4.1S? -- no signature To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 31 0:47:16 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ns.itga.com.au (ns.itga.com.au [202.53.40.210]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D20F937BAB4 for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2000 00:47:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnb@itga.com.au) Received: from lightning.itga.com.au (lightning.itga.com.au [192.168.71.20]) by ns.itga.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA36091; Mon, 31 Jul 2000 17:47:01 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from gnb@itga.com.au) Received: from itga.com.au (lightning.itga.com.au [192.168.71.20]) by lightning.itga.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA14301; Mon, 31 Jul 2000 17:47:01 +1000 (EST) Message-Id: <200007310747.RAA14301@lightning.itga.com.au> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.1 12/23/97 From: Gregory Bond To: "H . S . YOON" Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Does anyone succeed on making world from 3.5S to 4.1S ? In-reply-to: Your message of Mon, 31 Jul 2000 16:35:00 +0900. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 17:47:01 +1000 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Does anyone succeed on making world from 3.5S to 4.1S? I went from 3.5S to 4.1-RC3 no problems using the recipe in UPDATING. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 31 0:57:26 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F18537B627 for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2000 00:57:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (kris@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id AAA73567 for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2000 00:56:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: kris owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 00:56:54 -0700 (PDT) From: Kris Kennaway To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: HEADS UP! OpenSSH FallBackToRsh default changed Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I've changed the default value of FallBackToRsh from 'yes' to 'no' in the ssh_config file - the meaning is pretty obvious: the SSH client won't try and connect via rsh if it can't connect via SSH. It's pretty silly default behaviour since most people who are running SSH probably aren't running rsh (or shouldn't be) and I don't expect it to bother anyone since you can just turn it back on if you're one of the few who likes it. Kris -- In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. -- Charles Forsythe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 31 1: 5:42 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.flashcom.net (3ff83059.dsl.flashcom.net [63.248.48.89]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9540137BA7F for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2000 01:05:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cgaff@mail.flashcom.net) Received: (from cgaff@localhost) by mail.flashcom.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id DAA40586 for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Mon, 31 Jul 2000 03:00:44 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from cgaff) Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 03:00:44 -0500 From: "Corey G." To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HEADS UP! Always use the 'make buildkernel' target to make yer kernels Message-ID: <20000731030044.A17511@flashcom.net> References: <4.3.2.20000709232757.00b1e6a0@207.227.119.2> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.4i In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.20000709232757.00b1e6a0@207.227.119.2>; from jeff-ml@mountin.net on Sun, Jul 09, 2000 at 11:32:24PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG How come these exact procedures are not included in /usr/src/UPDATING after upgrading to 4.1? For example, the only mention of "mergemaster" is when upgrading from 3.x to 4.0 stable. I do not see any mention of the exact procedures below in my newly created /usr/src/UPDATING file after a cvsup to 4.1. Thanks, Corey On Sun, Jul 09, 2000 at 11:32:24PM -0500, Jeffrey J. Mountin wrote: > At 08:49 PM 7/9/00 -0700, Kris Kennaway wrote: > >Subject basically says it all. "make buildkernel KERNEL=" and > >"make installkernel KERNEL=" (or set KERNEL in /etc/make.conf or > >the environment, where KERNEL is the name of the kernel to build (GENERIC, > >etc)) are what you should always be using to build your kernels, unless > >you know what you're doing. > > > >This will automagically use the correct build tools for the job, and will > >solve problems like the one a lot of people are seeing since the binutils > >upgrade. > > > >Summary of Officially Sanctioned Update Procedure: > > > >make buildworld > >make buildkernel > >make installkernel > >shutdown (drop into single-user mode) > >make installworld > >mergemaster > > cd /dev > sh MAKEDEV > > Or is this the reason for the NO_MAKEDEV in make.conf. > > >reboot > > > >Depart from the above procedure at your own risk. Thankyou :-) > > Oh goody! ;) > > > Jeff Mountin - jeff@mountin.net > Systems/Network Administrator > FreeBSD - the power to serve > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message ---end quoted text--- -- Best Regards, Corey To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 31 1:15: 3 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from omta01.mta.everyone.net (sitemail.everyone.net [216.200.145.35]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39DF537BAC2; Mon, 31 Jul 2000 01:14:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@perlguru.com) Received: from sitemail.everyone.net (reports [216.200.145.62]) by omta01.mta.everyone.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B97AE26D1; Mon, 31 Jul 2000 01:14:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by sitemail.everyone.net (Postfix, from userid 60001) id 554DC5BCC9; Mon, 31 Jul 2000 01:14:55 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 4.104 (Entity 4.117) Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 01:14:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Mike To: Kris Kennaway , "Jordan K. Hubbard" Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: SSH in 4.1 RELEASE for NonUS users Reply-To: mike@perlguru.com X-Originating-Ip: [203.164.3.165] Message-Id: <20000731081455.554DC5BCC9@sitemail.everyone.net> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >> > I'm talking about the code which would repoint the installer at an >> > international site if doing a net-install and choosing crypto, and >> > USA_RESIDENT selected as NO. >> >> Ah, no. I believe that was your project. :-) > >Hey, I documented the feature..you mean that's not enough? :-) So basically if you install FreeBSD 4.1 RELEASE from the binary installation (like the one mirrored in Australia), and you want crypto you have to be a US resident. Otherwise you have to install the RsaIntl package afterwards? Surely this can't be right... Mike _____________________________________________________________ Get your own perlguru.com free email ---> http://www.perlarchive.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 31 1:18:44 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBC4237BA7F; Mon, 31 Jul 2000 01:18:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (kris@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id BAA76701; Mon, 31 Jul 2000 01:18:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: kris owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 01:18:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Kris Kennaway To: Mike Cc: "Jordan K. Hubbard" , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: SSH in 4.1 RELEASE for NonUS users In-Reply-To: <20000731081455.554DC5BCC9@sitemail.everyone.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 31 Jul 2000, Mike wrote: > So basically if you install FreeBSD 4.1 RELEASE from the binary > installation (like the one mirrored in Australia), and you want crypto > you have to be a US resident. Otherwise you have to install the > RsaIntl package afterwards? No, you'll just get crypto with a half-neutered RSA implementation. If your mirror site mirrored crypto from one of the non-US sites then all would be good. Kris -- In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. -- Charles Forsythe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 31 1:21:31 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from alpha.pit.adelphia.net (alpha.pit.adelphia.net [24.48.44.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D74D37BAC2 for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2000 01:21:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nturki@adelphia.net) Received: from b3s8t6 (pa-indiana1b-27.pit.adelphia.net [24.50.155.27]) by alpha.pit.adelphia.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) with SMTP id EAA01038 for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2000 04:21:18 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <000d01bffac8$aab42880$1b9b3218@pit.adelphia.net> From: "Nader Turki" To: Subject: Stop in /usr/src/games. Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 04:23:54 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG hi guys, i just installed fresh install 4.0 and tried upgrading to 4.1-stable while i was doing make world i got this error: ===> games/ppt "/usr/src/games/ppt/Makefile", line 1: Need an operator "/usr/src/games/ppt/Makefile", line 4: Need an operator "/usr/src/games/ppt/Makefile", line 5: Need an operator "/usr/src/games/ppt/Makefile", line 6: Need an operator "/usr/src/games/ppt/Makefile", line 7: Need an operator make: fatal errors encountered -- cannot continue *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/games. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. hope someone can help me :) thanks, To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 31 2: 6:14 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from deborah.paradise.net.nz (deborah.paradise.net.nz [203.96.152.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A44737BB0B; Mon, 31 Jul 2000 02:05:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marki@paradise.net.nz) Received: from evileye (203-79-68-28.apx0.paradise.net.nz [203.79.68.28]) by deborah.paradise.net.nz (8.10.1/8.10.1) with SMTP id e6V95Zb07814; Mon, 31 Jul 2000 21:05:35 +1200 (NZST) Message-ID: <007701bfface$7d96b920$0101a8c0@rf.org> From: "Mark Ibell" To: "Kris Kennaway" , "Mike" Cc: "Jordan K. Hubbard" , References: Subject: Re: SSH in 4.1 RELEASE for NonUS users Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 21:05:28 +1200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Installing the US crypto distribution also seems to give DES passwords rather than MD5. Utilities like 'sha1' seem to be missing as well. The only real option (at least for international users) seems to be to do a 'make world' with USA_RESIDENT=NO. ----- Original Message ----- From: Kris Kennaway To: Mike Cc: Jordan K. Hubbard ; Sent: Monday, July 31, 2000 8:18 PM Subject: Re: SSH in 4.1 RELEASE for NonUS users > On Mon, 31 Jul 2000, Mike wrote: > > > So basically if you install FreeBSD 4.1 RELEASE from the binary > > installation (like the one mirrored in Australia), and you want crypto > > you have to be a US resident. Otherwise you have to install the > > RsaIntl package afterwards? > > No, you'll just get crypto with a half-neutered RSA implementation. If > your mirror site mirrored crypto from one of the non-US sites then all > would be good. > > Kris > > -- > In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. > -- Charles Forsythe > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 31 2:48:28 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gekko.i-clue.de (server.ms-agentur.de [62.153.134.194]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1FC537B8CC for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2000 02:48:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from so@server.i-clue.de) Received: from i-clue.de (automatix.i-clue.de [192.168.0.112]) by gekko.i-clue.de (8.9.3/8.9.3/SuSE Linux 8.9.3-0.1) with ESMTP id NAA12412; Mon, 31 Jul 2000 13:51:38 +0200 Message-ID: <39854B8C.5CE6C2EE@i-clue.de> Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 11:49:00 +0200 From: Christoph Sold Reply-To: so@server.i-clue.de Organization: i-clue interactive GmbH X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.74 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Corey G." Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Upgrade procedures References: <20000731005630.A89962@flashcom.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Corey G." wrote: > > I am just a little puzzled on the best method for upgrading FreeBSD. > For this question I would be most concerned with the latest methods such > as an upgrade from 4.0 to 4.1. > > Would I be correct in saying that burning a CD and using sysinstall > would be the correct procedure? I remember seeing a warning somewhere > that mentioned sysinstall must be upgraded first before using this > method. I may have read it wrong but it sounded this way. If this is > true I am unable to find the exact procedure for doing this. I believe > it's upgraded when /usr/src is upgraded but I am not entirely sure. > > Would it be necessary to first cvsup src and rebuild world or should I > just use sysinstall to do the upgrade and later upgrade /usr/src? > > I successfully upgraded using the following steps although they may be > somewhat incorrect. > > 1. did a cvsup of src-all > 2. did a make buildworld > 3. did a make installworld > 4. followed the procedures in the handbook for upgrading /etc and such > 5. rebuilt the kernel and rebooted > 6. used sysinstall to upgrade the rest of the system > > If using sysinstall does not upgrade sources will compiling a new kernel > still grab the correct source during the compile? > > Does this look correct? The handbook does not describe this method in > such detail? Read /usr/src/UPDATING completely. A reciepe is given there. Some steps are missing, thus: - CVSup - make buildworld - make isntallworld - make buildkernel GENERIC => single user - make installkernel GENERIC - chflags noschg kernel.GENERIC - copy old /kernel.GENERIC to /kernel.GENERIC.old - copy new GENERIC to /kernel.GENERIC - chflags schg kernel.GENERIC - mergemaster => reboot Pay attention to which kernel is installed where! HTH -Christoph Sold To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 31 2:51:38 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 543BF37BD6E; Mon, 31 Jul 2000 02:51:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (kris@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id CAA90289; Mon, 31 Jul 2000 02:51:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: kris owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 02:51:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Kris Kennaway To: Mark Ibell Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: SSH in 4.1 RELEASE for NonUS users In-Reply-To: <007701bfface$7d96b920$0101a8c0@rf.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 31 Jul 2000, Mark Ibell wrote: > Installing the US crypto distribution also seems to give DES passwords > rather than MD5. Yes. This is being worked on. > Utilities like 'sha1' seem to be missing as well. This doesn't exist :-) > The only real option (at least for international users) seems to be to do a > 'make world' with USA_RESIDENT=NO. Or read what I already said (or what is documented) and install the librsaintl port/package. Kris -- In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. -- Charles Forsythe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 31 2:51:55 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gekko.i-clue.de (server.ms-agentur.de [62.153.134.194]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BD1237BB47 for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2000 02:51:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from so@server.i-clue.de) Received: from i-clue.de (automatix.i-clue.de [192.168.0.112]) by gekko.i-clue.de (8.9.3/8.9.3/SuSE Linux 8.9.3-0.1) with ESMTP id NAA12447; Mon, 31 Jul 2000 13:55:09 +0200 Message-ID: <39854C60.1E10B224@i-clue.de> Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 11:52:32 +0200 From: Christoph Sold Reply-To: so@server.i-clue.de Organization: i-clue interactive GmbH X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.74 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Corey G." Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HEADS UP! Always use the 'make buildkernel' target to make yer kernels References: <4.3.2.20000709232757.00b1e6a0@207.227.119.2> <20000731030044.A17511@flashcom.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Corey G." wrote: > > How come these exact procedures are not included in /usr/src/UPDATING > after upgrading to 4.1? For example, the only mention of "mergemaster" > is when upgrading from 3.x to 4.0 stable. I do not see any mention of > the exact procedures below in my newly created /usr/src/UPDATING file > after a cvsup to 4.1. Read up in the archives. There was a heated discussion about two weeks ago. In short: someone warned, but the current users thought the warning in UDATING to be enough. Since too many people have been bitten by this, they erred. Just my .02 Euro -Christoph Sold To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 31 4:34:35 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from deborah.paradise.net.nz (deborah.paradise.net.nz [203.96.152.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 680BB37BA94; Mon, 31 Jul 2000 04:34:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marki@paradise.net.nz) Received: from evileye (203-79-95-40.apx0.paradise.net.nz [203.79.95.40]) by deborah.paradise.net.nz (8.10.1/8.10.1) with SMTP id e6VBYKb03547; Mon, 31 Jul 2000 23:34:20 +1200 (NZST) Message-ID: <000b01bffae3$413e8600$0101a8c0@rf.org> From: "Mark Ibell" To: "Kris Kennaway" Cc: References: Subject: Re: SSH in 4.1 RELEASE for NonUS users Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 23:34:13 +1200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG ----- Original Message ----- From: Kris Kennaway To: Mark Ibell Cc: Sent: Monday, July 31, 2000 9:51 PM Subject: Re: SSH in 4.1 RELEASE for NonUS users > On Mon, 31 Jul 2000, Mark Ibell wrote: > > > Installing the US crypto distribution also seems to give DES passwords > > rather than MD5. > > Yes. This is being worked on. > > > Utilities like 'sha1' seem to be missing as well. > > This doesn't exist :-) I must have seen it on OpenBSD then - sorry. > > > The only real option (at least for international users) seems to be to do a > > 'make world' with USA_RESIDENT=NO. > > Or read what I already said (or what is documented) and install the > librsaintl port/package. The only problem with that is that the package is apparently not available - I've checked both ftp.freebsd.org & ftp.internat.freebsd.org. Also, the port complains about OpenSSL or something not being installed, which it won't be if you don't install CRYPTO as per the export warning. Is the librsaintl port by any chance intended for use with distributions downloaded from ftp.internat.freebsd.org? Mark To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 31 4:39:15 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mailgw02.execpc.com (mailgw02.execpc.com [169.207.3.78]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D50437BCA5; Mon, 31 Jul 2000 04:39:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hamilton@pobox.com) Received: from woodstock.monkey.net (d47.as15.nwbl0.wi.voyager.net [169.207.134.175]) by mailgw02.execpc.com (8.9.1) id GAA26481; Mon, 31 Jul 2000 06:39:08 -0500 Received: from pobox.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by woodstock.monkey.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 238FE1D; Mon, 31 Jul 2000 06:40:06 -0500 (CDT) X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/16/1999 To: Kris Kennaway Cc: stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: HEADS UP! OpenSSH FallBackToRsh default changed In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 31 Jul 2000 00:56:54 PDT." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 06:40:06 -0500 From: Jon Hamilton Message-Id: <20000731114006.238FE1D@woodstock.monkey.net> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message , Kri s Kennaway wrote: } I've changed the default value of FallBackToRsh from 'yes' to 'no' in the } ssh_config file - the meaning is pretty obvious: the SSH client won't try } and connect via rsh if it can't connect via SSH. It's pretty silly default } behaviour since most people who are running SSH probably aren't running } rsh (or shouldn't be) and I don't expect it to bother anyone since you can } just turn it back on if you're one of the few who likes it. I suppose the people who run it that way that you would consider to be "legitimate" would be folks in a mixed shop who have a mix of ssh-enabled and non-ssh-enabled machines (to avoid argument, perhaps the latter are out of the control of the admin of the former). Remember that ssh is meant to be a drop-in replacement for rsh, so in the circumstance described above, this change may violate POLA. Besides, if the target machine is not running rshd, what is the harm in falling back to it if rsh doesn't work? This smells like a feel-good change that will actually inconvenience some folks, which doesn't really buy anything. -- Jon Hamilton hamilton@pobox.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 31 4:51:19 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from anarchy.io.com (anarchy.io.com [199.170.88.101]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C0C837BBFD for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2000 04:51:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from eighner@io.com) Received: from dumpster.io.com.io.com (aus-as3-053.io.com [208.2.106.53]) by anarchy.io.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id GAA20759; Mon, 31 Jul 2000 06:50:42 -0500 To: "H . S . YOON" Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Does anyone succeed on making world from 3.5S to 4.1S ? References: <20000731163500.A35564@xocah.dhs.org> From: Lars Eighner Date: 31 Jul 2000 06:57:12 -0500 In-Reply-To: "H . S . YOON"'s message of "Mon, 31 Jul 2000 16:35:00 +0900" Message-ID: <86wvi2bjhj.fsf@dumpster.io.com> Lines: 16 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.6.45/XEmacs 21.1 - "Capitol Reef" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In our last episode, <20000731163500.A35564@xocah.dhs.org>, the lovely and talented H S YOON HSY> Does anyone succeed on making world from 3.5S to 4.1S? -- no HSY> signature It cannot be done by following the instructions in UPDATING exactly to the letter. Evidently, those who succeed know some special interpretation of the instructions which, so far, none of them have been willing to share with the rest of us. -- Lars Eighner eighner@io.com http://www.io.com/~eighner/ Save the whales! Collect the whole set! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 31 5:34: 8 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gekko.i-clue.de (server.ms-agentur.de [62.153.134.194]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBD1937BAA8 for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2000 05:34:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from so@server.i-clue.de) Received: from i-clue.de (automatix.i-clue.de [192.168.0.112]) by gekko.i-clue.de (8.9.3/8.9.3/SuSE Linux 8.9.3-0.1) with ESMTP id QAA14296; Mon, 31 Jul 2000 16:37:04 +0200 Message-ID: <3985724F.56AEEA0A@i-clue.de> Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 14:34:23 +0200 From: Christoph Sold Reply-To: so@server.i-clue.de Organization: i-clue interactive GmbH X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.74 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Lars Eighner Cc: "H . S . YOON" , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Does anyone succeed on making world from 3.5S to 4.1S ? References: <20000731163500.A35564@xocah.dhs.org> <86wvi2bjhj.fsf@dumpster.io.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Lars Eighner wrote: > > In our last episode, <20000731163500.A35564@xocah.dhs.org>, > the lovely and talented H S YOON > > HSY> Does anyone succeed on making world from 3.5S to 4.1S? -- no > HSY> signature > > It cannot be done by following the instructions in UPDATING > exactly to the letter. Evidently, those who succeed know > some special interpretation of the instructions which, so > far, none of them have been willing to share with the rest > of us. If this is the case, go to 4.0R. from there to 4.1-S. That's just a suggestion I have not tried it. Between 4.0 and 4.1 the tool chain has changed, thus watch out, and read the Stable archives. (A lengthy thread "HEADS UP") HTH -Christoph Sold To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 31 5:46:40 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from castle.jp.freebsd.org (castle.jp.FreeBSD.org [210.226.20.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E56BE37BAED for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2000 05:46:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from matusita@jp.freebsd.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by castle.jp.freebsd.org (8.9.3+3.2W/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA99211 for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2000 21:46:34 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from matusita@jp.FreeBSD.org) X-Face: '*aj"d@ijeQ:/X}]oM5c5Uz{ZZZk90WPt>a^y4$cGQp8:!H\W=hSM;PuNiidkc]/%,;6VGu e+`&APmz|P;F~OL/QK%;P2vU>\j4X.8@i%j6[%DTs_3J,Fff0)*oHg$A.cDm&jc#pD24WK@{,"Ef!0 P\):.2}8jo-BiZ?X&t$V X-User-Agent: Mew/1.94.2 XEmacs/21.2 (Molpe) X-FaceAnim: (-O_O-)(O_O- )(_O- )(O- )(- -)( -O)( -O_)( -O_O)(-O_O-) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Multipart/Mixed; boundary="--Next_Part(Mon_Jul_31_21:46:28_2000_638)--" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Dispatcher: imput version 20000228(IM140) Lines: 68 From: Makoto MATSUSHITA To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Fw: FYI: Full 4.1-RELEASE distribution with RSA_RESIDENT=NO Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 21:46:31 +0900 Message-Id: <20000731214631B.matusita@jp.FreeBSD.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG ----Next_Part(Mon_Jul_31_21:46:28_2000_638)-- Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I've sent it before to current@freebsd.org, however, maybe it is suitable to send to _stable_@freebsd.org... sorry if you have seen before. I've also putted packages/security/librsaintl-1.1.tgz for everybody who is already installed 4.1-RELEASE and wanna install librsaINTL via packages. Actually, you can also install librsaintl via *ports*; however, checksum is broken for 4-stable (files/md5 is maybe for -current), so you should simply ignore them. But anyway, where is the *official* place for librsaintl-1.1 package? -- - Makoto `MAR' MATSUSHITA ----Next_Part(Mon_Jul_31_21:46:28_2000_638)-- Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In-Reply-To: <20000316134059M.matusita@jp.FreeBSD.org> References: <20000316134059M.matusita@jp.FreeBSD.org> X-Face: '*aj"d@ijeQ:/X}]oM5c5Uz{ZZZk90WPt>a^y4$cGQp8:!H\W=hSM;PuNiidkc]/%,;6VGu e+`&APmz|P;F~OL/QK%;P2vU>\j4X.8@i%j6[%DTs_3J,Fff0)*oHg$A.cDm&jc#pD24WK@{,"Ef!0 P\):.2}8jo-BiZ?X&t$V X-User-Agent: Mew/1.94.2 XEmacs/21.2 (Molpe) X-FaceAnim: (-O_O-)(O_O- )(_O- )(O- )(- -)( -O)( -O_)( -O_O)(-O_O-) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Dispatcher: imput version 20000228(IM140) Lines: 23 From: Makoto MATSUSHITA To: current@freebsd.org Subject: FYI: Full 4.1-RELEASE distribution with RSA_RESIDENT=NO Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 15:37:44 +0900 Message-Id: <20000730153744E.matusita@jp.FreeBSD.org> I've sent before that current.jp.FreeBSD.org provides 4.0-RELEASE distribution with international CVS repository (at that time). Now we are in the post 4.1-RELEASE age. It should be changed. *** If you are NOT an US resident, and try to use FreeBSD 4.1-RELEASE which was built with 'RSA_RESIDENT=NO' (librsaINTL are already included in crypto distribution), try: This release is build at current.jp.FreeBSD.org, not a mirror of the one at ftp.internat.FreeBSD.org. If something goes wrong, please email to me. P.S.: current.jp.FreeBSD.org serves daily FreeBSD snapshots with RSA_RESIDENT=NO, which is *not* available at current.freebsd.org. If you have also interested, check /pub/FreeBSD/snapshots/i386 directory. -- - Makoto `MAR' MATSUSHITA ----Next_Part(Mon_Jul_31_21:46:28_2000_638)---- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 31 7:46:45 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from germanium.xtalwind.net (germanium.xtalwind.net [205.160.242.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A46337B625 for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2000 07:46:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jack@germanium.xtalwind.net) Received: from localhost (localhost.xtalwind.net [127.0.0.1]) by germanium.xtalwind.net (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id e6VEkW709853; Mon, 31 Jul 2000 10:46:33 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 10:46:28 -0400 (EDT) From: jack To: "H . S . YOON" Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Does anyone succeed on making world from 3.5S to 4.1S ? In-Reply-To: <20000731163500.A35564@xocah.dhs.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Today H . S . YOON wrote: > Does anyone succeed on making world from 3.5S to 4.1S? A buildworld of 4.1-RELEASE on a 3.5-RELEASE box worked for me. I haven't installed it yet. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jack O'Neill Systems Administrator / Systems Analyst jack@germanium.xtalwind.net Crystal Wind Communications, Inc. Finger jack@germanium.xtalwind.net for my PGP key. PGP Key fingerprint = F6 C4 E6 D4 2F 15 A7 67 FD 09 E9 3C 5F CC EB CD enriched, vcard, HTML messages > /dev/null -------------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 31 8: 4:16 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from accord.grasslake.net (accord.grasslake.net [206.11.249.240]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FB4737B772 for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2000 08:04:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from swb@grasslake.net) Received: from marlowe (Marlowe.campbell-mithun.com [192.159.32.184]) by accord.grasslake.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA14274 for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2000 10:05:09 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from swb@grasslake.net) Message-ID: <001901bffb00$a8f42e90$b8209fc0@marlowe> From: "Shawn Barnhart" To: Subject: ipfw log facility? Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 10:04:43 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.3018.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.3018.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG What facility does ipfw log to when logging is enabled? I can't seem find that info in the handbook or the ipfw manpages. I'd like to log ipfw messages to a seperate file. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 31 8:17:20 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from peach.ocn.ne.jp (peach.ocn.ne.jp [210.145.254.87]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D40537BB97; Mon, 31 Jul 2000 08:17:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dcs@newsguy.com) Received: from newsguy.com (p47-dn02kiryunisiki.gunma.ocn.ne.jp [211.0.245.112]) by peach.ocn.ne.jp (8.9.1a/OCN/) with ESMTP id AAA12102; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 00:17:07 +0900 (JST) Message-ID: <3985987D.5A0D8646@newsguy.com> Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2000 00:17:17 +0900 From: "Daniel C. Sobral" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en,pt-BR,ja MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jon Hamilton Cc: Kris Kennaway , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HEADS UP! OpenSSH FallBackToRsh default changed References: <20000731114006.238FE1D@woodstock.monkey.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Jon Hamilton wrote: > > I suppose the people who run it that way that you would consider to be > "legitimate" would be folks in a mixed shop who have a mix of ssh-enabled > and non-ssh-enabled machines (to avoid argument, perhaps the latter are > out of the control of the admin of the former). Remember that ssh is > meant to be a drop-in replacement for rsh, so in the circumstance described > above, this change may violate POLA. Besides, if the target machine is > not running rshd, what is the harm in falling back to it if rsh doesn't work? > This smells like a feel-good change that will actually inconvenience some > folks, which doesn't really buy anything. We do have rsh, it's still there. Ssh is _SECURE_ shell. It having a default which is not secure is against POLA. At the very least, this change makes it more difficult for people to intercept an ssh tunnel. -- Daniel C. Sobral (8-DCS) dcs@newsguy.com dcs@freebsd.org capo@white.bunnies.bsdconspiracy.net Satan was once an angel, Gates started by writing a BASIC interpreter. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 31 8:18:11 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gw-nl1.origin-it.com (gw-nl1.origin-it.com [193.79.128.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1046F37B620 for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2000 08:18:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Helge.Oldach@de.origin-it.com) Received: from mail.de.origin-it.com (localhost.origin-it.com [127.0.0.1]) by gw-nl1.origin-it.com with ESMTP id RAA13640; Mon, 31 Jul 2000 17:17:49 +0200 (MEST) (envelope-from Helge.Oldach@de.origin-it.com) Received: from smtprelay-de1.origin-it.com(172.16.188.53) by gw-nl1.origin-it.com via mwrap (4.0a) id xma013636; Mon, 31 Jul 00 17:17:49 +0200 Received: from mailhub.de.origin-it.com ([130.143.166.88]) by mail.de.origin-it.com (8.9.3/8.8.5-1.2.2m-19990317) with ESMTP id RAA13021; Mon, 31 Jul 2000 17:17:48 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from galaxy.de.cp.philips.com (galaxy.de.cp.philips.com [130.143.166.29]) by mailhub.de.origin-it.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/hmo01feb00) with ESMTP id RAA36410; Mon, 31 Jul 2000 17:17:45 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from Helge.Oldach@de.origin-it.com) Received: (from hmo@localhost) by galaxy.de.cp.philips.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/hmo14aug98) id RAA26077; Mon, 31 Jul 2000 17:17:42 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <200007311517.RAA26077@galaxy.de.cp.philips.com> Subject: Re: Does anyone succeed on making world from 3.5S to 4.1S ? In-Reply-To: <20000731163500.A35564@xocah.dhs.org> from "H . S . YOON" at "Jul 31, 2000 4:35: 0 pm" To: tsoi@xocah.dhs.org Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 17:17:41 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org From: Helge Oldach X-Address: ORIGIN Deutschland GmbH, Billstrasse 80, D-20539 Hamburg, Germany X-Phone: +49 40 7886 464, Fax: +49 40 7886 235, Mobile: +49 172 4515513 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG H . S . YOON: >Does anyone succeed on making world from 3.5S to 4.1S? Yep. Smoothly and according to /usr/src/UPDATING - with one exception: I had to manually copy the freshly-built libc.so.4 into /usr/lib before a "make installworld" would work. There seems to be a minor dependency on the new 4.1's libc in one program - don't remember exactly which. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 31 8:20:38 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from snoopy.brwn.org (intgw1.brwn.org [196.28.127.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5231A37B620 for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2000 08:20:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from willem@snoopy.brwn.org) Received: by snoopy.brwn.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id A478A1D9B; Mon, 31 Jul 2000 17:20:16 +0200 (SAST) Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 17:20:16 +0200 From: Willem Brown To: Shawn Barnhart Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ipfw log facility? Message-ID: <20000731172016.C46693@snoopy.brwn.org> References: <001901bffb00$a8f42e90$b8209fc0@marlowe> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <001901bffb00$a8f42e90$b8209fc0@marlowe>; from swb@grasslake.net on Mon, Jul 31, 2000 at 10:04:43AM -0500 X-Public-Key: http://willem.brwn.org/pubkey.txt X-Chat-Server: http://chat.brwn.org/ Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, It looks like it is using the security and info facilities. That is, if I'm looking at the correct source code. /usr/src/sys/netinet/ip_fw.c Best Regards Willem Brown On Mon, Jul 31, 2000 at 10:04:43AM -0500, Shawn Barnhart wrote: > What facility does ipfw log to when logging is enabled? I can't seem > find that info in the handbook or the ipfw manpages. I'd like to log > ipfw messages to a seperate file. > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > -- /* =============================================================== */ /* Linux, FreeBSD, NetBSD, OpenBSD. The choice is yours. */ /* =============================================================== */ "But officer, I was only trying to gain enough speed so I could coast to the nearest gas station." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 31 8:28: 5 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from jade.chc-chimes.com (jade.chc-chimes.com [216.28.46.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9273C37BBFB; Mon, 31 Jul 2000 08:27:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from billf@jade.chc-chimes.com) Received: by jade.chc-chimes.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 896141C6E; Mon, 31 Jul 2000 11:27:53 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 11:27:53 -0400 From: Bill Fumerola To: Jon Hamilton Cc: Kris Kennaway , stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: HEADS UP! OpenSSH FallBackToRsh default changed Message-ID: <20000731112753.C5021@jade.chc-chimes.com> References: <20000731114006.238FE1D@woodstock.monkey.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <20000731114006.238FE1D@woodstock.monkey.net>; from hamilton@pobox.com on Mon, Jul 31, 2000 at 06:40:06AM -0500 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.3-STABLE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Jul 31, 2000 at 06:40:06AM -0500, Jon Hamilton wrote: > I suppose the people who run it that way that you would consider to be > "legitimate" would be folks in a mixed shop who have a mix of ssh-enabled > and non-ssh-enabled machines (to avoid argument, perhaps the latter are > out of the control of the admin of the former). Remember that ssh is > meant to be a drop-in replacement for rsh, so in the circumstance described > above, this change may violate POLA. Besides, if the target machine is > not running rshd, what is the harm in falling back to it if rsh doesn't work? > This smells like a feel-good change that will actually inconvenience some > folks, which doesn't really buy anything. When I type ssh I expect that when everything is said and done that I have a secure channel to the machine. -- Bill Fumerola - Network Architect, BOFH / Chimes, Inc. billf@chimesnet.com / billf@FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 31 8:36:52 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rerun.lucentctc.com (rerun.lucentctc.com [199.93.237.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1D5B37B620 for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2000 08:36:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mcambria@lucent.com) Received: by rerun.lucentctc.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Mon, 31 Jul 2000 11:36:11 -0400 Message-ID: <75ADD7496F0BD211ADC000104B8846CF012CEEA3@rerun.lucentctc.com> From: "Cambria, Mike" To: 'Helge Oldach' , tsoi@xocah.dhs.org Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: Does anyone succeed on making world from 3.5S to 4.1S ? Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 11:36:10 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG H . S . YOON: >Does anyone succeed on making world from 3.5S to 4.1S? Yep. Smoothly and according to /usr/src/UPDATING - with one exception: I had to manually copy the freshly-built libc.so.4 into /usr/lib before a "make installworld" would work. There seems to be a minor dependency on the new 4.1's libc in one program - don't remember exactly which. I agree. I just updated 2 machines last night. A Pentium from 3.5-Stable and a PIII from 3.4-Stable. I had the make installworld problem on both, but UPDATING expected the exact problem I had and suggested using ldconfig, then redoing installworld. The only other snag I hit (on both systems) was on the "make install" step for /usr/src/sys/modules. I hit a problem many others had on the -stable mailing list. I haven't seen an "official" answer on the list yet. What I did was just skipped this step until I was done with everything else. Then running 4.1-Stable in multiuser mode, I simply went into /usr/src/sys/modules, did make, then make install. MikeC Michael C. Cambria AVAYA Communication Formerly Lucent Technologies Enterprise Networks Group Voice: (978) 287 - 2807 300 Baker Avenue Fax: (978) 287 - 2810 Concord, Massachusetts 01742 Internet: mcambria@avaya.com H . S . YOON: >Does anyone succeed on making world from 3.5S to 4.1S? Yep. Smoothly and according to /usr/src/UPDATING - with one exception: I had to manually copy the freshly-built libc.so.4 into /usr/lib before a "make installworld" would work. There seems to be a minor dependency on the new 4.1's libc in one program - don't remember exactly which. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 31 8:41:39 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from earth.backplane.com (backplane-inc.SanFranciscosfd.cw.net [206.24.214.242]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4292737B625; Mon, 31 Jul 2000 08:41:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dillon@earth.backplane.com) Received: (from dillon@localhost) by earth.backplane.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA89271; Mon, 31 Jul 2000 08:41:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dillon) Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 08:41:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Matt Dillon Message-Id: <200007311541.IAA89271@earth.backplane.com> To: gallatin@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: NFS server running out of bufs & locking up References: <14721.48065.766815.376959@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I've only got weekends available but I will try to look into it. -Matt :I have an NFS server which I updated to RELENG_4 (as of Jul 13th) from :4.0-current (as of Jul 13th 1999). Since the upgrade, it has locked :up 3 times; it had been up for 180+ days prior to the upgrade. : :The machine serves a large (64GB) volume stripped across 4 ATA drives :with CCD mounted with soft updates. When it locks up, it is getting :beaten upon by a compute farm of 50+ Solaris boxes running NFS over :TCP (via 100Mb ethernet). : :When it locks, most procs are waiting in biofre, and the nfsd's are :wating on inode. I've been unable to get a dump, the most I have :is ps from ddb. (appended below). Its somewhat interesting that :3 of the nfsds are waiting on the same inode : :Stopped at siointr1+0xb1: jmp siointr1+0x1a0 :db> ps : pid proc addr uid ppid pgrp flag stat wmesg wchan cmd : 494 d28fb2a0 d292a000 0 120 120 002004 3 biofre c02aa6d8 amd : 493 d0ad9c20 d2869000 0 373 492 004006 3 biofre c02aa6d8 grep : 473 d0ad7380 d28df000 1597 320 473 004006 3 biofre c02aa6d8 netdump_server : 460 d28fbe00 d28fc000 1597 458 460 004086 3 ttyin c1729630 tcsh : 458 d0ad76c0 d28c8000 0 205 205 000084 3 select c02be9ec sshd1 : 394 d28fb440 d290f000 1 1 394 000104 3 biofre c02aa6d8 portmap : 373 d0ad6ea0 d28eb000 0 285 373 2004086 3 opause d28eb108 tcsh : 320 d0ad7040 d28e4000 1597 317 320 2004086 3 opause d28e4108 tcsh : 317 d0ad71e0 d28e9000 0 205 205 000084 3 select c02be9ec sshd1 : 285 d0ad7520 d28db000 1387 283 285 2004086 3 opause d28db108 tcsh : 283 d0ad7860 d28c4000 0 205 205 000084 3 select c02be9ec sshd1 : 260 d0ad7a00 d28bf000 1387 259 260 004106 3 biofre c02aa6d8 systat : 259 d0ad83c0 d2899000 1387 233 259 004186 3 select c02be9ec xterm : 233 d0ada440 d284e000 1387 230 233 004006 3 inode c16f8000 tcsh : 230 d0ad8220 d289d000 0 205 205 000004 3 biofre c02aa6d8 sshd1 : 223 d0ada5e0 d284b000 0 1 223 004006 3 biofre c02aa6d8 getty : 218 d0ad7ba0 d28bd000 0 1 218 000084 3 sbwait d0668acc zhm : 205 d0ad7d40 d28b1000 0 1 205 000084 3 select c02be9ec sshd1 : 147 d0ad8080 d28a1000 0 1 147 2000184 3 pause d28a1108 sendmail : 144 d0ad7ee0 d28a4000 0 1 144 000084 3 nanslp c02aa580 cron : 142 d0ad9a80 d286c000 0 1 142 000084 3 select c02be9ec inetd : 120 d0ad8be0 d2889000 0 1 120 000084 3 select c02be9ec amd : 115 d0ad8560 d2895000 0 1 110 000084 3 nfsidl c02c0d4c nfsiod : 114 d0ad8700 d2892000 0 1 110 000084 3 nfsidl c02c0d48 nfsiod : 113 d0ad88a0 d288f000 0 1 110 000084 3 nfsidl c02c0d44 nfsiod : 112 d0ad8a40 d288c000 0 1 110 000084 3 nfsidl c02c0d40 nfsiod : 108 d0ad8d80 d2886000 0 1 108 000084 3 select c02be9ec rpc.statd : 105 d0ad8f20 d2882000 0 100 100 000004 3 inode c16c3400 nfsd : 104 d0ad90c0 d287f000 0 100 100 000004 3 inode c16c3400 nfsd : 103 d0ad9260 d287c000 0 100 100 000004 3 inode c16c3400 nfsd : 102 d0ad9400 d2878000 0 100 100 000004 3 biofre c02aa6d8 nfsd : 100 d0ad95a0 d2875000 0 1 100 000084 3 accept d06663f6 nfsd : 98 d0ad9740 d2872000 0 1 98 000084 3 select c02be9ec mountd : 92 d0ad98e0 d286f000 0 1 92 000084 3 select c02be9ec ypbind : 87 d0ad9dc0 d2866000 0 1 87 000084 3 select c02be9ec ntpd : 80 d0ad9f60 d285c000 0 1 80 000084 3 select c02be9ec syslogd : 33 d0ada100 d2858000 0 1 33 2000084 3 pause d2858108 adjkerntz : 25 d0ada2a0 d2855000 0 1 25 000084 3 mfsidl d0ad3d00 mount_mfs : 5 d0ada780 d0ae7000 0 0 0 000204 3 biofre c02aa6d8 syncer : 4 d0ada920 d0ae5000 0 0 0 100204 3 psleep c02aa6a8 bufdaemon : 3 d0adaac0 d0ae3000 0 0 0 000204 3 psleep c02b5fa0 vmdaemon : 2 d0adac60 d0ae1000 0 0 0 100204 3 psleep c029c8b8 pagedaemon : 1 d0adae00 d0adf000 0 0 1 004284 3 wait d0adae00 init : 0 c02bdd80 c0322000 0 0 0 000204 3 sched c02bdd80 swapper : : :About 30 seconds before this lockup, I was looking at how much buf :space is available: : :#sysctl -a | grep buf :kern.ipc.maxsockbuf: 262144 :kern.ipc.sockbuf_waste_factor: 8 :kern.ipc.mbuf_wait: 32 :kern.ipc.nmbufs: 10240 :vfs.nfs.bufpackets: 0 :vfs.numdirtybuffers: 18 :vfs.hidirtybuffers: 796 :vfs.numfreebuffers: 3083 :vfs.lofreebuffers: 177 :vfs.hifreebuffers: 354 :vfs.runningbufspace: 32768 :vfs.maxbufspace: 50872320 :vfs.hibufspace: 50216960 :vfs.lobufspace: 50151424 :vfs.bufspace: 50151424 :vfs.maxmallocbufspace: 2510848 :vfs.bufmallocspace: 4096 :vfs.getnewbufcalls: 512584 :vfs.getnewbufrestarts: 0 :vfs.bufdefragcnt: 0 :vfs.buffreekvacnt: 0 :vfs.bufreusecnt: 3061 :vfs.reassignbufcalls: 426411 :vfs.reassignbufloops: 0 :vfs.reassignbufsortgood: 144583 :vfs.reassignbufsortbad: 4776 :vfs.reassignbufmethod: 1 :vfs.aio.max_buf_aio: 16 :vfs.aio.num_buf_aio: 0 :debug.bpf_bufsize: 4096 :debug.bpf_maxbufsize: 524288 :machdep.msgbuf: :machdep.msgbuf_clear: 0 : : :I have appended my config file & boot messages. : :Thanks for any help you can give, : :Drew : :------------------------------------------------------------------------------ :Andrew Gallatin, Sr Systems Programmer http://www.cs.duke.edu/~gallatin :Duke University Email: gallatin@cs.duke.edu :Department of Computer Science Phone: (919) 660-6590 : : :Copyright (c) 1992-2000 The FreeBSD Project. :Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 : The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. :FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE #0: Thu Jul 13 12:11:33 EDT 2000 : gallatin@grits.cs.duke.edu:/usr/src/sys/compile/NFSSERVER :Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz :Timecounter "TSC" frequency 451024727 Hz :CPU: Pentium II/Pentium II Xeon/Celeron (451.02-MHz 686-class CPU) : Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x652 Stepping = 2 : Features=0x183f9ff :real memory = 402640896 (393204K bytes) :avail memory = 388145152 (379048K bytes) :Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc030f000. :ccd0-3: Concatenated disk drivers :Pentium Pro MTRR support enabled :npx0: on motherboard :npx0: INT 16 interface :pcib0: on motherboard :pci0: on pcib0 :pcib1: at device 1.0 on pci0 :pci1: on pcib1 :isab0: at device 4.0 on pci0 :isa0: on isab0 :atapci0: port 0xd800-0xd80f at device 4.1 on pci0 :ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0 :pci0: at 4.2 :chip1: port 0xe800-0xe80f at device 4.3 on pci0 :atapci1: port 0xa800-0xa81f,0xb004-0xb007,0xb400-0xb407,0xb804-0xb807,0xd000-0xd007 irq 12 at device 9.0 on pci0 :ata2: at 0xd000 on atapci1 :ata3: at 0xb400 on atapci1 :fxp0: port 0xa400-0xa41f mem 0xe2000000-0xe20fffff,0xe3000000-0xe3000fff irq 10 at device 10.0 on pci0 :fxp0: Ethernet address 00:a0:c9:e7:95:bb :atapci2: port 0x8800-0x881f,0x9004-0x9007,0x9400-0x9407,0x9804-0x9807,0xa000-0xa007 irq 11 at device 12.0 on pci0 :ata4: at 0xa000 on atapci2 :ata5: at 0x9400 on atapci2 :fdc0: at port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa0 :fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold :fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0 :atkbdc0: at port 0x60,0x64 on isa0 :sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa0 :sio0: type 16550A, console :sio1 at port 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa0 :sio1: type 16550A :ppc0: at port 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on isa0 :ppc0: SMC-like chipset (ECP/EPP/PS2/NIBBLE) in COMPATIBLE mode :ppc0: FIFO with 16/16/9 bytes threshold :ppi0: on ppbus0 :lpt0: on ppbus0 :lpt0: Interrupt-driven port :plip0: on ppbus0 :ad0: 4892MB [10602/15/63] at ata0-master using UDMA33 :ad1: 16479MB [33483/16/63] at ata2-master using UDMA33 :ad2: 16479MB [33483/16/63] at ata3-master using UDMA33 :ad3: 16479MB [33483/16/63] at ata4-master using UDMA33 :ad4: 16479MB [33483/16/63] at ata5-master using UDMA33 :Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad0s1a :WARNING: / was not properly dismounted : : :## NFSSERVER :machine i386 :cpu I686_CPU :ident NFSSERVER :maxusers 128 : :#makeoptions DEBUG=-g #Build kernel with gdb(1) debug symbols : :options INET #InterNETworking :options FFS #Berkeley Fast Filesystem :options FFS_ROOT #FFS usable as root device [keep this!] :options SOFTUPDATES #Enable FFS soft updates support :options MFS #Memory Filesystem :options NFS #Network Filesystem :options MSDOSFS #MSDOS Filesystem :options CD9660 #ISO 9660 Filesystem :options CD9660_ROOT #CD-ROM usable as root, CD9660 required :options PROCFS #Process filesystem :options COMPAT_43 #Compatible with BSD 4.3 [KEEP THIS!] :options SCSI_DELAY=1500 #Delay (in ms) before probing SCSI :options UCONSOLE #Allow users to grab the console :options USERCONFIG #boot -c editor :options VISUAL_USERCONFIG #visual boot -c editor :options KTRACE #ktrace(1) support :options SYSVSHM #SYSV-style shared memory :options SYSVMSG #SYSV-style message queues :options SYSVSEM #SYSV-style semaphores :options P1003_1B #Posix P1003_1B real-time extensions :options _KPOSIX_PRIORITY_SCHEDULING :options ICMP_BANDLIM #Rate limit bad replies :options KBD_INSTALL_CDEV # install a CDEV entry in /dev : :# To make an SMP kernel, the next two are needed :#options SMP # Symmetric MultiProcessor Kernel :#options APIC_IO # Symmetric (APIC) I/O :# Optionally these may need tweaked, (defaults shown): :#options NCPU=2 # number of CPUs :#options NBUS=4 # number of busses :#options NAPIC=1 # number of IO APICs :#options NINTR=24 # number of INTs : :device isa :device pci : :# Floppy drives :device fdc0 at isa? port IO_FD1 irq 6 drq 2 :device fd0 at fdc0 drive 0 : :# ATA and ATAPI devices :device ata0 at isa? port IO_WD1 irq 14 :device ata1 at isa? port IO_WD2 irq 15 :device ata :device atadisk # ATA disk drives :device atapicd # ATAPI CDROM drives : : :# SCSI Controllers :#device ahb # EISA AHA1742 family :device ahc # AHA2940 and onboard AIC7xxx devices :#device amd # AMD 53C974 (Teckram DC-390(T)) :#device dpt # DPT Smartcache - See LINT for options! :#device isp # Qlogic family :#device ncr # NCR/Symbios Logic :device sym # NCR/Symbios Logic (newer chipsets) :options SYM_SETUP_LP_PROBE_MAP=0x40 : # Allow ncr to attach legacy NCR devices when : # both sym and ncr are configured : :#device adv0 at isa? :#device adw :#device bt0 at isa? :#device aha0 at isa? :#device aic0 at isa? : :# SCSI peripherals :device scbus # SCSI bus (required) :device da # Direct Access (disks) :device sa # Sequential Access (tape etc) :device cd # CD :device pass # Passthrough device (direct SCSI access) : :# atkbdc0 controls both the keyboard and the PS/2 mouse :device atkbdc0 at isa? port IO_KBD :device atkbd0 at atkbdc? irq 1 flags 0x1 :device psm0 at atkbdc? irq 12 : :device vga0 at isa? : :# splash screen/screen saver :pseudo-device splash : :# syscons is the default console driver, resembling an SCO console :device sc0 at isa? flags 0x100 : :# Floating point support - do not disable. :device npx0 at nexus? port IO_NPX irq 13 : :# Serial (COM) ports :device sio0 at isa? port IO_COM1 flags 0x10 irq 4 :device sio1 at isa? port IO_COM2 irq 3 : :# Parallel port :device ppc0 at isa? irq 7 :device ppbus # Parallel port bus (required) :device lpt # Printer :device plip # TCP/IP over parallel :device ppi # Parallel port interface device :device vpo # Requires scbus and da : : :# PCI Ethernet NICs. :device de # DEC/Intel DC21x4x (``Tulip'') :device fxp # Intel EtherExpress PRO/100B (82557, 82558) : :# Pseudo devices - the number indicates how many units to allocated. :pseudo-device loop # Network loopback :pseudo-device ether # Ethernet support :pseudo-device pty # Pseudo-ttys (telnet etc) : :# The `bpf' pseudo-device enables the Berkeley Packet Filter. :# Be aware of the administrative consequences of enabling this! :pseudo-device bpf #Berkeley packet filter : :pseudo-device ccd 4 #Concatenated disk driver : :# Size of the kernel message buffer. Should be N * pagesize. :options MSGBUF_SIZE=40960 : :# :# Enable the kernel debugger. :# :options DDB : :# :# Don't drop into DDB for a panic. Intended for unattended operation :# where you may want to drop to DDB from the console, but still want :# the machine to recover from a panic :# :options DDB_UNATTENDED : :# Options for serial drivers that support consoles (only for sio now): :options BREAK_TO_DEBUGGER #a BREAK on a comconsole goes to : #DDB, if available. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 31 8:42:56 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.bezeqint.net (mail-a.bezeqint.net [192.115.106.23]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5E2737BD8D for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2000 08:42:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nimrodm@bezeqint.net) Received: from bsd.net.il ([212.179.172.143]) by mail.bezeqint.net (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.2000.03.23.18.03.p10) with ESMTP id <0FYK0052ZJJH7E@mail.bezeqint.net> for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Mon, 31 Jul 2000 18:40:41 +0300 (IDT) Received: (from nimrodm@localhost) by bsd.net.il (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA01534 for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Mon, 31 Jul 2000 18:34:03 +0300 (IDT envelope-from nimrodm) Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 18:34:03 +0300 From: Nimrod Mesika Subject: Re: ipfw: setsockopt(IP_FW_ADD): Invalid argument In-reply-to: ; from bsdx@looksharp.net on Sun, Jul 30, 2000 at 04:34:51PM -0400 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: nimrodm@email.com Message-id: <20000731183403.A1413@localhost.bsd.net.il> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-disposition: inline Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i References: <20000730225553.A2934@localhost.bsd.net.il> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Jul 30, 2000 at 04:34:51PM -0400, Adam wrote: > On Sun, 30 Jul 2000, Nimrod Mesika wrote: > > No idea, it works for me. I still dont know how you are getting > the ## Dynamic rules: 00000 0 0 (T 0, # 0) ty 0 ip, 0.0.0.0 0 <-> > 0.0.0.0 0 > > part either. Perhaps try cvsupping and building the kernel and > the ipfw bin by hand? When I cvsupped just now, most of the > changes were in src/sys so it probably wouldnt need a full > buildworld if you wanted to update the rest manually. > Re-cvsupp'ed and remade world and kernel. Everything seems to be find now. Guess I was somehow out of sync. Thanks for your effort. -- Nimrod. http://www.geocities.com/rodd_27 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 31 8:47: 5 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from xocah.dhs.org (s210-181-113-213.thrunet.ne.kr [210.181.113.213]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8687C37B7D0 for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2000 08:46:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tsoi@xocah.dhs.org) Received: (from tsoi@localhost) by xocah.dhs.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA38470 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 00:46:44 +0900 (KST) (envelope-from tsoi) Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2000 00:46:44 +0900 From: "H . S . YOON" To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Does anyone succeed on making world from 3.5S to 4.1S ? Message-ID: <20000801004644.B38206@xocah.dhs.org> Reply-To: "H . S . YOON" References: <20000731163500.A35564@xocah.dhs.org> <86wvi2bjhj.fsf@dumpster.io.com> <20000801000915.A29102@xocah.dhs.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.4i In-Reply-To: <20000801000915.A29102@xocah.dhs.org>; from tsoi@xocah.dhs.org on Tue, Aug 01, 2000 at 12:09:15AM +0900 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Yeah, you're right. /usr/src/UPDATING's instructions do not work on me. I'd like to follow the next steps derived from '/usr/src/UPDATING'. This is my scenario but it did not gave me a successful result. ( CVSuped to RELENG_4 and 'CFLAGS= -O -pipe', 'USA_RESIDENT=NO' in /etc/make.conf ) 1. cd /usr/src 2. make buildworld 3. make buildkernel KERNEL=MYKERNEL ; make installkernel KERNEL=MYKERNEL 4. cd /usr/src/sys/modules ; make install 5. cd /usr/src/sbin/mknod ; make install 6. cp /usr/src/etc/MAKEDEV /dev ; sh MAKEDEV all ; change wd -> ad 7. reboot ( to single user ) 8. cd /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/texinfo/install-info ; make install 9. cd /usr/src ; make installworld ( ld-elf.so warning? ldconfig -R /usr/obj/usr/src/lib/libc and repeat installworld ) 10. mergemaster 11. reboot Buildworld was successful with no error. But 'make installkernel' fail and 'make install in /usr/src/sys/modules' fail, too. Whe installkernel, " xocah# make installkernel KERNEL=XOCAH cd /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/XOCAH; MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX=/usr/obj COMPILER_PATH=/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/libexec:/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/bin LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/lib:/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/lib OBJFORMAT_PATH=/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/libexec PERL5LIB=/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/libdata/perl/5.00503 MACHINE=i386 KERNEL=XOCAH make install cd: can't cd to /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/XOCAH *** Error code 2 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. " When install module, " xocah# make install ===> accf_data install -c -o root -g wheel -m 555 accf_data.ko /modules install: accf_data.ko: No such file or directory *** Error code 71 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. " ( Maybe ko means Korean, for i'm live in Korea. ) And I don't know what I should do. Thus spake Lars Eighner (eighner@io.com) ::::: : In our last episode, <20000731163500.A35564@xocah.dhs.org>, : the lovely and talented H S YOON : : HSY> Does anyone succeed on making world from 3.5S to 4.1S? -- no : HSY> signature : : It cannot be done by following the instructions in UPDATING : exactly to the letter. Evidently, those who succeed know : some special interpretation of the instructions which, so : far, none of them have been willing to share with the rest : of us. : : : -- : Lars Eighner eighner@io.com http://www.io.com/~eighner/ : Save the whales! Collect the whole set! : : : : To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org : with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- no signature To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 31 9:12:26 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from earth.backplane.com (backplane-inc.SanFranciscosfd.cw.net [206.24.214.242]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2563737B541; Mon, 31 Jul 2000 09:12:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dillon@earth.backplane.com) Received: (from dillon@localhost) by earth.backplane.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA89481; Mon, 31 Jul 2000 09:12:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dillon) Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 09:12:19 -0700 (PDT) From: Matt Dillon Message-Id: <200007311612.JAA89481@earth.backplane.com> To: Bill Fumerola Cc: Jon Hamilton , Kris Kennaway , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HEADS UP! OpenSSH FallBackToRsh default changed References: <20000731114006.238FE1D@woodstock.monkey.net> <20000731112753.C5021@jade.chc-chimes.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'm total agreement, this is a great change. ssh has no business falling back to (attempt) an unsecure connection. -Matt To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 31 10:38:33 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from flux.ptc.spbu.ru (flux.ptc.spbu.ru [195.19.225.195]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93F2337B510 for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2000 10:38:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from uwe@snark.ptc.spbu.ru) Received: from snark.ptc.spbu.ru (snark.ptc.spbu.ru [195.19.225.131]) by flux.ptc.spbu.ru (8.9.3/8.9.3/cf-1.0.rbl) with ESMTP id VAA84577 for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2000 21:38:11 +0400 (MSD) Received: (from uwe@localhost) by snark.ptc.spbu.ru (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) id VAA14526 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Mon, 31 Jul 2000 21:38:10 +0400 (MSD) Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 21:38:10 +0400 From: "Valeriy E. Ushakov" To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: VCD Message-ID: <20000731213810.A14507@snark.ptc.spbu.ru> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.3i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Is there any reason why ATAPI CD driver patch to read VCD &c from http://people.freebsd.org/~luoqi/ is not in stable? I've applied it to my 4.1RC2 system without problems (couple of trivial mods were necessary). Now I can play VCD's with MTV. The only problem is that the sound comes out with regular quiet clicks (more frequent if I set sound quality in MTV higher). Mpeg video streams grabbed with vcdread.c (available from the same page) also have these clicks. OTOH, playing mp3's is ok, so I don't think this is a problem with the sound card driver (SB Live). Thanks. SY, Uwe -- uwe@ptc.spbu.ru | Zu Grunde kommen http://www.ptc.spbu.ru/~uwe/ | Ist zu Grunde gehen To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 31 10:49:27 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mailgw00.execpc.com (mailgw00.execpc.com [169.207.1.78]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE7B537BC48; Mon, 31 Jul 2000 10:49:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hamilton@pobox.com) Received: from woodstock.monkey.net (d154.as3.nwbl0.wi.voyager.net [169.207.95.92]) by mailgw00.execpc.com (8.9.1) id MAA27531; Mon, 31 Jul 2000 12:49:06 -0500 Received: from pobox.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by woodstock.monkey.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AC191D; Mon, 31 Jul 2000 12:50:05 -0500 (CDT) X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/16/1999 To: Bill Fumerola Cc: Kris Kennaway , stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: HEADS UP! OpenSSH FallBackToRsh default changed In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 31 Jul 2000 11:27:53 EDT." <20000731112753.C5021@jade.chc-chimes.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 12:50:05 -0500 From: Jon Hamilton Message-Id: <20000731175005.8AC191D@woodstock.monkey.net> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <20000731112753.C5021@jade.chc-chimes.com>, Bill Fumerola wrote: } When I type ssh I expect that when everything is said and done that I have } a secure channel to the machine. FallBackToRsh Specifies that if connecting via ssh fails due to a connection refused error (there is no sshd listen- ing on the remote host), rsh should automatically be used instead (after a suitable warning about the session being unencrypted). It does complain, but having said that: That feature is not really intended for users who type ``ssh'', it's meant for users who REPLACED RSH WITH SSH and who still need to interoperate with machines which don't have ssh running. The more I think about it, the more I feel that the change to the default is reasonable; enough time has probably passed since ssh came on the scene that such cases are probably in the minority by now. I guess I never really objected, but was rather pointing out who might be affected. Sorry for the needless traffic. -- Jon Hamilton hamilton@pobox.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 31 11:31: 5 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from europe.std.com (europe.std.com [199.172.62.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBCC437B86A for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2000 11:30:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lowell@world.std.com) Received: from world.std.com (lowell@world-f.std.com [199.172.62.5]) by europe.std.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA22971; Mon, 31 Jul 2000 14:30:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from lowell@localhost) by world.std.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA04976; Mon, 31 Jul 2000 14:30:33 -0400 (EDT) To: "H . S . YOON" , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Does anyone succeed on making world from 3.5S to 4.1S ? References: <20000731163500.A35564@xocah.dhs.org> <86wvi2bjhj.fsf@dumpster.io.com> <20000801000915.A29102@xocah.dhs.org> <20000801004644.B38206@xocah.dhs.org> From: Lowell Gilbert Date: 31 Jul 2000 14:30:33 -0400 In-Reply-To: "H . S . YOON"'s message of Tue, 1 Aug 2000 00:46:44 +0900 Message-ID: Lines: 23 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.5/Emacs 20.2 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "H . S . YOON" writes: > Buildworld was successful with no error. But 'make installkernel' fail and > 'make install in /usr/src/sys/modules' fail, too. > > Whe installkernel, > > " > xocah# make installkernel KERNEL=XOCAH > cd /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/XOCAH; MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX=/usr/obj COMPILER_PATH=/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/libexec:/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/bin LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/lib:/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/lib OBJFORMAT_PATH=/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/libexec PERL5LIB=/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/libdata/perl/5.00503 MACHINE=i386 KERNEL=XOCAH make install > cd: can't cd to /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/XOCAH > *** Error code 2 This looks remarkably like you forgot the "make buildkernel" step. You mentioned that step in your cookbook at the front of your message, but it's not described here; and since that's the part which should create the missing directory, I think that's the part you forgot. There were some bogosities in the cookbook (notably building the new devices in the /usr/src tree, where they won't help at all), but that's further along than you had gotten so far. Good luck. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 31 12: 2: 0 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from vinyl.sentex.ca (vinyl.sentex.ca [209.112.4.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E67237B86A for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2000 12:01:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from granite.sentex.net (granite-atm.sentex.ca [209.112.4.1]) by vinyl.sentex.ca (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA31317 for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2000 15:01:54 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from simoeon.sentex.net (simeon.sentex.ca [209.112.4.47]) by granite.sentex.net (8.8.8/8.6.9) with ESMTP id PAA07021 for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2000 15:01:54 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.0.20000731145336.04fc0460@marble.sentex.ca> X-Sender: mdtpop@marble.sentex.ca X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 14:57:49 -0400 To: stable@freebsd.org From: Mike Tancsa Subject: strange fetch problems with post 4.1R Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Can anyone else repeat this ? newmail% fetch http://www.microsoft.com/default.htm Receiving default.htm (15957 bytes): 100% 15957 bytes transferred in 0.3 seconds (46.87 kBps) newmail% fetch http://www.netscape.com/index.html Receiving index.html (4294967295 bytes): 0% 44914 bytes transferred in 1.1 seconds (38.51 kBps) fetch: index.html appears to be truncated: 44914/4294967295 bytes newmail% From an older RC1 box, (4.1-RC FreeBSD 4.1-RC #0: Fri Jul 14) all is fine. Works with microsoft and a few other locations, but gives this truncated error with other sites. So far, I have only seen it via http and not ftp. I started seeing for a few days. This is a direct connection, no proxies. ---Mike ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Mike Tancsa, tel +1 519 651 3400 Sentex Communications mike@sentex.net Cambridge, Ontario Canada www.sentex.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 31 12:14:12 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.over.ru (over.rinet.ru [195.54.192.99]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9790C37BE06 for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2000 12:14:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tarkhil@mail.over.ru) Received: (qmail 37711 invoked by uid 1001); 31 Jul 2000 19:13:49 -0000 Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 23:13:49 +0400 From: Alex Povolotsky To: "Valeriy E. Ushakov" Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: VCD Message-ID: <20000731231349.A37689@mail.over.ru> References: <20000731213810.A14507@snark.ptc.spbu.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <20000731213810.A14507@snark.ptc.spbu.ru>; from uwe@ptc.spbu.ru on Mon, Jul 31, 2000 at 09:38:10PM +0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Jul 31, 2000 at 09:38:10PM +0400, Valeriy E. Ushakov wrote: > Is there any reason why ATAPI CD driver patch to read VCD &c from > http://people.freebsd.org/~luoqi/ is not in stable? It is cursed. I've asked EXACTLY that questions about the time of 3.0-RELEASE. Alex. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 31 12:23:52 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from flux.ptc.spbu.ru (flux.ptc.spbu.ru [195.19.225.195]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBD4337BBFB for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2000 12:23:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from uwe@snark.ptc.spbu.ru) Received: from snark.ptc.spbu.ru (snark.ptc.spbu.ru [195.19.225.131]) by flux.ptc.spbu.ru (8.9.3/8.9.3/cf-1.0.rbl) with ESMTP id XAA87402 for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2000 23:23:33 +0400 (MSD) Received: (from uwe@localhost) by snark.ptc.spbu.ru (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) id XAA14719 for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Mon, 31 Jul 2000 23:23:32 +0400 (MSD) Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 23:23:32 +0400 From: "Valeriy E. Ushakov" To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: VCD Message-ID: <20000731232332.A14708@snark.ptc.spbu.ru> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20000731213810.A14507@snark.ptc.spbu.ru> <20000731231349.A37689@mail.over.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.3i In-Reply-To: <20000731231349.A37689@mail.over.ru>; from "Alex Povolotsky" on Mon, Jul 31, 2000 at 23:13:49 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Jul 31, 2000 at 23:13:49 +0400, Alex Povolotsky wrote: > > Is there any reason why ATAPI CD driver patch to read VCD &c from > > http://people.freebsd.org/~luoqi/ is not in stable? > > It is cursed. I've asked EXACTLY that questions about the time of > 3.0-RELEASE. Luoqi suggested this patch on hackers@ on 28 Jan 1999 and Soren Schmidt promised to to "take a close look at those :)". Just wonder, what level of magnification is he at by now. ;-) SY, Uwe -- uwe@ptc.spbu.ru | Zu Grunde kommen http://www.ptc.spbu.ru/~uwe/ | Ist zu Grunde gehen To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 31 12:23:52 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from resnet.uoregon.edu (resnet.uoregon.edu [128.223.122.47]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C57E637BBE4 for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2000 12:23:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by resnet.uoregon.edu (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id e6VJNkB86427; Mon, 31 Jul 2000 12:23:46 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 12:23:45 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White To: Chris BeHanna Cc: FreeBSD-Stable Subject: Re: Video card support In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 28 Jul 2000, Chris BeHanna wrote: > I don't remember if it was this list on which I saw this > discussion, or if it was hackers. Anyway, I looked at xfree86.org > today, and noticed that there is accelerated support for ATI Mach64 > and for NVIDIA TNT2 and GeForce256 boards, as well as many others. > > Is there some reason why this isn't "good enough," or do we > really need actual drivers for these boards to get at their > extra-nifty features (e.g., hardware backface culling, fog, bump maps, > etc.)? That acceleration usually refers to 2D acceleration -- rectangle drawing and so forth. XFree86 4.X adds support for DRI, a direct-to-hardware interface for accessing the 3D hardware on the card. Doug White | FreeBSD: The Power to Serve dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | www.FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 31 13: 4:22 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from avocet.prod.itd.earthlink.net (avocet.prod.itd.earthlink.net [207.217.121.50]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 250EC37BC8F for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2000 13:04:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jim@siteplus.net) Received: from veager.siteplus.net (user-38lc886.dialup.mindspring.com [209.86.33.6]) by avocet.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.9.3-EL_1_3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA18147 for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2000 13:04:09 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 16:04:13 +0000 (GMT) From: Jim Weeks To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Another shudown -p question Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG There was a thread on this subject a couple of weeks ago but did not address this issue. On my Compaq 1200XL, shutdown -p seems to work, except immediately after shutdown the HD spins back up. The only way to get it turned off at this point is to pull the battery. Does anyone have a suggestion on where to start looking for a solution? Thanks, -- Jim Weeks To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 31 13:11:26 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail6.svr.pol.co.uk (mail6.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.193.212]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF56C37BC8F for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2000 13:11:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rich@dynamite.org) Received: from [195.92.198.123] (helo=mail17.svr.pol.co.uk) by mail6.svr.pol.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #0) id 13JLu3-0005QS-00 for stable@freebsd.org; Mon, 31 Jul 2000 21:11:11 +0100 Received: from modem-196.ereinion.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.196.196] helo=bluescreen.kill-9.org.uk) by mail17.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.13 #0) id 13JLu3-0003Iq-00 for stable@freebsd.org; Mon, 31 Jul 2000 21:11:11 +0100 Received: from bluescreen (unverified [192.168.1.2]) by bluescreen.kill-9.org.uk (EMWAC SMTPRS 0.83) with SMTP id ; Mon, 31 Jul 2000 21:06:01 +0100 From: "Rich Wood" Organization: dynamite.org To: Mike Tancsa , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 21:06:01 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: strange fetch problems with post 4.1R Reply-To: rich@dynamite.org Message-ID: <3985EA39.880.347BBCD4@localhost> In-reply-to: <4.3.2.7.0.20000731145336.04fc0460@marble.sentex.ca> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 31 Jul 2000, at 14:57, Mike Tancsa wrote: > Can anyone else repeat this ? Yup. This is on a build of sources from approx 10:00 GMT 23-07-2000. [rich@kenny ~/scratch]uname -a FreeBSD kenny.kill-9.org.uk 4.1-RC FreeBSD 4.1-RC #3: Sun Jul 23 23:41:11 BST 20 00 root@kenny.kill-9.org.uk:/usr/src/sys/compile/KENNY i386 [rich@kenny ~/scratch]fetch http://www.microsoft.com/index.htm Receiving index.htm (9354 bytes): 100% 9354 bytes transferred in 1.5 seconds (6.19 kBps) [rich@kenny ~/scratch]fetch http://www.netscape.com/index.html Receiving index.html (4294967295 bytes): 0% 45021 bytes transferred in 29.9 seconds (1.47 kBps) fetch: index.html appears to be truncated: 45021/4294967295 bytes [rich@kenny ~/scratch] Rich -- rich@dynamite.org rich@FreeBSD.org.uk If that's what they call normal, I'd rather be insane To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 31 13:25:26 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from alpha.pit.adelphia.net (alpha.pit.adelphia.net [24.48.44.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3D7E37BC8F; Mon, 31 Jul 2000 13:25:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nturki@adelphia.net) Received: from b3s8t6 (pa-indiana1b-27.pit.adelphia.net [24.50.155.27]) by alpha.pit.adelphia.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) with SMTP id QAA25854; Mon, 31 Jul 2000 16:25:07 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <004601bffb2d$c853d2e0$1b9b3218@pit.adelphia.net> From: "Nader Turki" To: Cc: Subject: reboot Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 16:27:43 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG hi guys, i was doing upgrading a machine from 4.0-release to 4.0-stable anyway, while i was doing make world ... the machine went offline. i'm not sure why, it's either of the power, or maybe the owner rebooted the machine. i just called the isp and they said on the prompt it says boot: i guess and there's a msg that says no kernel and no nsf. can someone tell me how can i get the machine back online? thanks, To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 31 13:27:51 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from epsilon.lucida.qc.ca (epsilon.lucida.qc.ca [216.95.146.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0441337BD10 for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2000 13:27:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from matt@ARPA.MAIL.NET) Received: (qmail 16959 invoked by uid 1000); 31 Jul 2000 20:27:24 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 31 Jul 2000 20:27:24 -0000 Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 16:27:17 -0400 (EDT) From: Matt Heckaman X-Sender: matt@epsilon.lucida.qc.ca To: Rich Wood Cc: Mike Tancsa , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: strange fetch problems with post 4.1R In-Reply-To: <3985EA39.880.347BBCD4@localhost> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Rating: localhost 1.6.2 0/1000/N Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, 31 Jul 2000, Rich Wood wrote: ... : Yup. This is on a build of sources from approx 10:00 GMT 23-07-2000. Same here. Since I needed fetch to work with a certain URL that was not working I did a cvs co of RELENG_3's fetch, which fixed it. Though I would like to see what exactly is causing this problem. * Matt Heckaman - mailto:matt@lucida.qc.ca http://www.lucida.qc.ca/ * * GPG fingerprint - A9BC F3A8 278E 22F2 9BDA BFCF 74C3 2D31 C035 5390 * -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.2 (FreeBSD) Comment: http://www.lucida.qc.ca/pgp iD8DBQE5heEmdMMtMcA1U5ARApt+AJ9uUgbwmrC4Xgw2+6Iw/r58C716lwCfQJYg 5ZSHXcc7bBz2TAywLB76n/k= =AbFA -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 31 15: 5:45 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E213937BBB5; Mon, 31 Jul 2000 15:05:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (kris@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id PAA97749; Mon, 31 Jul 2000 15:05:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: kris owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 15:05:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Kris Kennaway To: Mark Ibell Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: SSH in 4.1 RELEASE for NonUS users In-Reply-To: <000b01bffae3$413e8600$0101a8c0@rf.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 31 Jul 2000, Mark Ibell wrote: > The only problem with that is that the package is apparently not available - > I've checked both ftp.freebsd.org & ftp.internat.freebsd.org. Also, the port > complains about OpenSSL or something not being installed, which it won't be > if you don't install CRYPTO as per the export warning. Is the librsaintl > port by any chance intended for use with distributions downloaded from > ftp.internat.freebsd.org? You have to install it over the top of the crypto dist - i.e. install crypto from sysinstall, which will give you everything else plus a half-neutered RSA implementation suitable for non-commercial US use. Then install the package which adds a real RSA implementation that can't be used in the US, and which will be used in preference to the other. I have no idea where the package lives, either..I never could find out from the internat boys where they installed it :-) Kris -- In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. -- Charles Forsythe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 31 15:16:42 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mailgw00.execpc.com (mailgw00.execpc.com [169.207.1.78]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A51C737BD40 for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2000 15:16:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hamilton@pobox.com) Received: from woodstock.monkey.net (d25.as15.nwbl1.wi.voyager.net [169.207.88.25]) by mailgw00.execpc.com (8.9.1) id RAA11715; Mon, 31 Jul 2000 17:16:23 -0500 Received: from pobox.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by woodstock.monkey.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15B7318C; Mon, 31 Jul 2000 17:17:21 -0500 (CDT) X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/16/1999 To: Jim Weeks Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Another shudown -p question In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 31 Jul 2000 16:04:13 -0000." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 17:17:21 -0500 From: Jon Hamilton Message-Id: <20000731221721.15B7318C@woodstock.monkey.net> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message , Jim We eks wrote: } There was a thread on this subject a couple of weeks ago but did not } address this issue. } } On my Compaq 1200XL, shutdown -p seems to work, except immediately after } shutdown the HD spins back up. The only way to get it turned off at this } point is to pull the battery. } } Does anyone have a suggestion on where to start looking for a solution? Works fine for me on my 1200xl; I have the following in my kernel config: device apm0 at nexus? flags 0x20 # Advanced Power Management and [542] hamilton@laptop hamilton$ grep -i apm /etc/rc.conf apm_enable="YES" (note, I do not run apmd). If that combination fails for you, feel free to contact me off-list and we can compare BIOS settings etc. I use shutdown -p all the time, and it has always worked for me on this machine, ranging from 4.0-STABLE to various iterations of -current, so I think it ought to be workable for you too. Right now, I'm running -stable from July 29 and it's fine there. If you have a working sound config for this machine, I'd love to trade for that, too :) BTW, even with this symptom, you shouldn't have to pull the battery. Hold down the power button for 3-4 seconds and the machine should power down, though I realize that's not ideal by a long shot. -- Jon Hamilton hamilton@pobox.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 31 16:59:38 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from flux.ptc.spbu.ru (flux.ptc.spbu.ru [195.19.225.195]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98E5337BD47 for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2000 16:59:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from uwe@snark.ptc.spbu.ru) Received: from snark.ptc.spbu.ru (snark.ptc.spbu.ru [195.19.225.131]) by flux.ptc.spbu.ru (8.9.3/8.9.3/cf-1.0.rbl) with ESMTP id DAA96900 for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 03:59:24 +0400 (MSD) Received: (from uwe@localhost) by snark.ptc.spbu.ru (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) id DAA15219 for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 03:59:23 +0400 (MSD) Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2000 03:59:23 +0400 From: "Valeriy E. Ushakov" To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: VCD Message-ID: <20000801035923.A15169@snark.ptc.spbu.ru> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20000731213810.A14507@snark.ptc.spbu.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.3i In-Reply-To: <20000731213810.A14507@snark.ptc.spbu.ru>; from "Valeriy E. Ushakov" on Mon, Jul 31, 2000 at 21:38:10 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Jul 31, 2000 at 21:38:10 +0400, Valeriy E. Ushakov wrote: > only problem is that the sound comes out with regular quiet clicks > (more frequent if I set sound quality in MTV higher). Mpeg video > streams grabbed with vcdread.c (available from the same page) also > have these clicks. *blush*, I've got MTV controls messed and had sound accidentally set to left-only. SY, Uwe who feels very humble... -- uwe@ptc.spbu.ru | Zu Grunde kommen http://www.ptc.spbu.ru/~uwe/ | Ist zu Grunde gehen To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 31 17: 4:39 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from harrier.prod.itd.earthlink.net (harrier.prod.itd.earthlink.net [207.217.121.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0888237BD69 for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2000 17:04:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jim@siteplus.net) Received: from veager.siteplus.net (user-38lc886.dialup.mindspring.com [209.86.33.6]) by harrier.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.9.3-EL_1_3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA10200 for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2000 17:04:14 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 20:04:18 +0000 (GMT) From: Jim Weeks To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Another shudown -p question In-Reply-To: <20000731221721.15B7318C@woodstock.monkey.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Jon Hamilton wrote: > Works fine for me on my 1200xl; I have the following in my kernel config: > device apm0 at nexus? flags 0x20 # Advanced Power Management > > and /etc/rc.conf > apm_enable="YES" > If you have a working sound config for this machine, I'd love to trade for > that, too :) > > BTW, even with this symptom, you shouldn't have to pull the battery. Hold > down the power button for 3-4 seconds and the machine should power down, though > I realize that's not ideal by a long shot. Thanks to Jon and Harold, I didn't know about holding the button down. I will use this for now and recompile the kernel later. Since I use this machine mainly to ssh my servers and check mail while out of town, I haven't even tried to get sound working. I'll bet Graham Wheeler has though. Graham, are you out there? -- Jim Weeks To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 31 17:27:14 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.pacex.net (dns1.pacex.net [209.189.111.246]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C0B1D37B723 for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2000 17:27:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from admin@pacex.net) Received: (qmail 8234 invoked by uid 1001); 29 Jul 2000 23:27:07 -0000 Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2000 16:27:07 -0700 From: net admin To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: make installworld fails to rm: /sys (not permited) Message-ID: <20000729162707.A8150@almazs.pacex.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi Folks; I am trying to make installworld and I get error: cd /; rm -f /sys; ln -s /usr/src/sys sys rm: /sys: Operation not permited Error ... I did: chflags -R noschg /sys and I still get the error also I am running at kern_securelevel=-1 to do the make installworld. Any help apprecited Dan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 31 20:24:20 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from cage.simianscience.com (cage.simianscience.com [64.7.134.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 720EC37BE20 for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2000 20:24:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from chimp (chimp [192.168.0.2]) by cage.simianscience.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA02917; Mon, 31 Jul 2000 23:12:33 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Message-Id: <4.2.2.20000731230638.033df598@mail.sentex.net> X-Sender: mdtancsa@mail.sentex.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 23:07:34 -0400 To: Matt Heckaman , Rich Wood From: Mike Tancsa Subject: Re: strange fetch problems with post 4.1R Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: References: <3985EA39.880.347BBCD4@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 04:27 PM 7/31/2000 -0400, Matt Heckaman wrote: >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >Hash: SHA1 > >On Mon, 31 Jul 2000, Rich Wood wrote: >... >: Yup. This is on a build of sources from approx 10:00 GMT 23-07-2000. > >Same here. Since I needed fetch to work with a certain URL that was not >working I did a cvs co of RELENG_3's fetch, which fixed it. Though I would >like to see what exactly is causing this problem. I sent a PR. I cc'd the maintainer of the code the previous thread on this topic as well. ---Mike -------------------------------------------------------------------- Mike Tancsa, tel +1 519 651 3400 Network Administration, mike@sentex.net Sentex Communications www.sentex.net Cambridge, Ontario Canada www.sentex.net/mike To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 31 21:52:11 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.over.ru (over.rinet.ru [195.54.192.99]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id EDAE937B53F for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2000 21:52:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tarkhil@mail.over.ru) Received: (qmail 43095 invoked by uid 1001); 1 Aug 2000 04:51:53 -0000 Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2000 08:51:53 +0400 From: Alex Povolotsky To: "Valeriy E. Ushakov" Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: VCD Message-ID: <20000801085152.B42768@mail.over.ru> References: <20000731213810.A14507@snark.ptc.spbu.ru> <20000731231349.A37689@mail.over.ru> <20000731232332.A14708@snark.ptc.spbu.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <20000731232332.A14708@snark.ptc.spbu.ru>; from uwe@ptc.spbu.ru on Mon, Jul 31, 2000 at 11:23:32PM +0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Jul 31, 2000 at 11:23:32PM +0400, Valeriy E. Ushakov wrote: > > > Is there any reason why ATAPI CD driver patch to read VCD &c from > > > http://people.freebsd.org/~luoqi/ is not in stable? > > It is cursed. I've asked EXACTLY that questions about the time of > > 3.0-RELEASE. > Luoqi suggested this patch on hackers@ on 28 Jan 1999 and Soren > Schmidt promised to to "take a close look at those :)". Just wonder, > what level of magnification is he at by now. He must be inside, enjoying some good film ;-) Alex. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 31 23:16:37 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from relay.uvd.chel.su (uvd.chel.su [195.54.2.174]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C262737BDA3 for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2000 23:16:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lw@pd.chel.ru) Received: from isergeya.uvd.chel.su (isergeya.uvd.chel.su [192.168.200.123]) by relay.uvd.chel.su (Postfix) with ESMTP id C44BC634E8 for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 12:16:07 +0600 (YEKST) Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2000 12:15:35 +0500 From: "Sergey A. Ivanov" X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.45) UNREG / CD5BF9353B3B7091 Reply-To: "Sergey A. Ivanov" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <11012672466.20000801121535@pd.chel.ru> To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: disk partition limits Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello freebsd-stable! Are there any limits for size/quantity of partitions at freebsd slice? Best regards, Sergey mailto:lw@pd.chel.ru ICQ UIN: 49432691 http://lw.narod.ru To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 31 23:25:52 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ns.itga.com.au (ns.itga.com.au [202.53.40.210]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A00D37BDC3 for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2000 23:25:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnb@itga.com.au) Received: from lightning.itga.com.au (lightning.itga.com.au [192.168.71.20]) by ns.itga.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA40316; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 16:25:29 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from gnb@itga.com.au) Received: from itga.com.au (lightning.itga.com.au [192.168.71.20]) by lightning.itga.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA12412; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 16:25:28 +1000 (EST) Message-Id: <200008010625.QAA12412@lightning.itga.com.au> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.1 12/23/97 From: Gregory Bond To: "Sergey A. Ivanov" Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: disk partition limits In-reply-to: Your message of Tue, 01 Aug 2000 12:15:35 +0500. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2000 16:25:28 +1000 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Are there any limits for size/quantity of partitions at freebsd > slice? 4 slices per disk, 8 partitions per slice (by convention, partition "c" covers the whole disk so usually only 7 usable partitions). AFAIK FreeBSD cannot use the so-called "extended partitions" (i.e. slices-within-slices). If this is too restrictive for your purposes, use vinum to chop up a large partition into lots of little ones. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Aug 1 0:23: 4 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from relay.uvd.chel.su (uvd.chel.su [195.54.2.174]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C31B37B994 for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 00:22:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lw@pd.chel.ru) Received: from isergeya.uvd.chel.su (isergeya.uvd.chel.su [192.168.200.123]) by relay.uvd.chel.su (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5417662D38; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 13:22:51 +0600 (YEKST) Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2000 13:22:19 +0500 From: "Sergey A. Ivanov" X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.45) UNREG / CD5BF9353B3B7091 Reply-To: "Sergey A. Ivanov" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <816676737.20000801132219@pd.chel.ru> To: Gregory Bond Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re[2]: disk partition limits In-reply-To: <200008010625.QAA12412@lightning.itga.com.au> References: <200008010625.QAA12412@lightning.itga.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello Gregory, Tuesday, August 01, 2000, 11:25:28 AM, you wrote: >> Are there any limits for size/quantity of partitions at freebsd >> slice? GB> 4 slices per disk, 8 partitions per slice (by convention, partition "c" covers GB> the whole disk so usually only 7 usable partitions). GB> AFAIK FreeBSD cannot use the so-called "extended partitions" (i.e. GB> slices-within-slices). GB> If this is too restrictive for your purposes, use vinum to chop up a large GB> partition into lots of little ones. I'm tried create new partition on slice with >5Gb free space and failed. Partition with 4096Mb was created successfully. Now i have 5 partitions on this slice and can't create new for rest 1+ Gb :( Slice (as i can remember) is more than 8Gb, HDD is IBM SCSI 18Gb. Best regards, Sergey mailto:lw@pd.chel.ru ICQ UIN: 49432691 http://lw.narod.ru To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Aug 1 1: 4:46 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from topperwein.dyndns.org (acs-24-154-5-187.zoominternet.net [24.154.5.187]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28ECD37BB56 for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 01:04:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rom@topperwein.dyndns.org) Received: (from root@localhost) by topperwein.dyndns.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA74592 for behanna@mail.zbzoom.net; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 04:05:23 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from rom) Received: from mail.zbzoom.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by topperwein.zbzoom.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA24356 for ; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 03:55:27 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from behanna@mail.zbzoom.net) Message-ID: <39813C6F.EB875EFE@mail.zbzoom.net> Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 03:55:27 -0400 From: Chris BeHanna Reply-To: behanna@zbzoom.net Organization: Western Pennsylvania Pizza Disposal Unit X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: General update methodology question References: <200007280416.OAA16196@lightning.itga.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Gregory Bond wrote: > > 4) As time progresses, cvs up from my local mirror, build and > > install. BUT, prior to doing that, tag my local copy > > (e.g., "WORKS_7-26-2000"). The idea here is that if someone > > does a hasty commit, and I suffer for it, I can easily get > > back to where I was. > > Except that (IIUC) next time you cvsup-d the repository, your local tag would > be deleted. I suppose I could tag -b "WORKS" the first time, cvs update -r "WORKS" to switch to my new branch, then tag the branch and merge out from my local repository's "mainline" whenever I resync it. Chris BeHanna behann@zbzoom.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Aug 1 1: 6:15 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from topperwein.dyndns.org (acs-24-154-5-187.zoominternet.net [24.154.5.187]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D051137B5C8 for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 01:06:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from behanna@topperwein.dyndns.org) Received: (from root@localhost) by topperwein.dyndns.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA74601; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 04:06:53 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from behanna) Received: from mail.zbzoom.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by topperwein.zbzoom.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA67501 for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2000 09:32:35 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from behanna@mail.zbzoom.net) Message-ID: <39857FF3.32663673@mail.zbzoom.net> Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 09:32:35 -0400 From: Chris BeHanna Reply-To: behanna@zbzoom.net Organization: Western Pennsylvania Pizza Disposal Unit X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: PPPoE References: <200007310105.e6V15CT21809@dna.tsolab.org> <3984E9BC.A27E0C8E@home.com> <3984F08B.B5574BE4@home.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Ted Sikora wrote: > Recently my cable service > reduced the bandwidth. Now upstreams average 16k and downstream 400k. > There has to be something better. Several users on my node (all > BSD/Linux users) have been enjoying our own little private network with > speeds up to 900k both ways.(600k average) Now it's terrible. They now > limited the internal network to 33k between users. Compared to before > it's like putting us on dialups. When you signed on, didn't you agree to pay per month for a given service level? If I understand you correctly, @home has now changed the terms of the agreement. We need competition for cable service in a big, big way. :-( I don't have the option for DSL where I live (yet), and my cable "ISP" (I have to put that in quotes, because they couldn't find their bungholes with both hands and a roadmap) guarantees 1500K down and 500K up for what I'm paying, BUT they block all the ports below 1024. :-( I can hack around that, given a friendly site outside their firewall who's willing to divert packets for me, but it's still a PITA. Regards, Chris BeHanna behanna@zbzoom.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Aug 1 1: 8:26 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from topperwein.dyndns.org (acs-24-154-5-187.zoominternet.net [24.154.5.187]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34E7137BFC6 for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 01:08:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from behanna@topperwein.dyndns.org) Received: (from root@localhost) by topperwein.dyndns.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA74621; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 04:09:00 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from behanna) Received: from mail.zbzoom.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by topperwein.zbzoom.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA03528 for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2000 18:45:52 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from behanna@mail.zbzoom.net) Message-ID: <3984B01F.B615AAF3@mail.zbzoom.net> Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 18:45:52 -0400 From: Chris BeHanna Reply-To: behanna@zbzoom.net Organization: Western Pennsylvania Pizza Disposal Unit X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: make world fails References: <20000729141447.C196@214.norrgarden.se> <39834258.996BBAD9@gorean.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Doug Barton wrote: > Signals 10 and 11 are almost always hardware. Not in my experience. Signal 11 is usually the result of attempting to dereference a NULL pointer. Signal 10 is usually the result of attempting to dereference a pointer that contains a garbage address. At least, that's been my experience. YMMV. Regards, Chris BeHanna behanna@zbzoom.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Aug 1 1:29: 7 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from deborah.paradise.net.nz (deborah.paradise.net.nz [203.96.152.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE3BF37BDAF for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 01:29:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marki@paradise.net.nz) Received: from evileye (203-79-68-65.apx0.paradise.net.nz [203.79.68.65]) by deborah.paradise.net.nz (8.10.1/8.10.1) with SMTP id e718SlX14223; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 20:28:47 +1200 (NZST) Message-ID: <002c01bffb92$80194540$0101a8c0@rf.org> From: "Mark Ibell" To: "net admin" , References: <20000729162707.A8150@almazs.pacex.net> Subject: Re: make installworld fails to rm: /sys (not permited) Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2000 20:28:40 +1200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG ----- Original Message ----- From: net admin To: Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2000 11:27 AM Subject: make installworld fails to rm: /sys (not permited) > Hi Folks; > I am trying to make installworld and I get error: > > cd /; rm -f /sys; ln -s /usr/src/sys sys > rm: /sys: Operation not permited > > Error ... > > I did: chflags -R noschg /sys > and I still get the error also I am running at kern_securelevel=-1 > to do the make installworld. Symbolic links do not have 'flags' so there is no reason why rm -f /sys (as root) should fail. Is /sys still is a symbolic link on your system? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Aug 1 1:35:40 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from topperwein.dyndns.org (acs-24-154-5-187.zoominternet.net [24.154.5.187]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C89A37B512 for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 01:35:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from behanna@mail.zbzoom.net) Received: from mail.zbzoom.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by topperwein.zbzoom.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA74690 for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 04:25:27 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from behanna@mail.zbzoom.net) Message-ID: <39868976.58130DE2@mail.zbzoom.net> Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2000 04:25:26 -0400 From: Chris BeHanna Reply-To: behanna@zbzoom.net Organization: Western Pennsylvania Pizza Disposal Unit X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: disk partition limits References: <200008010625.QAA12412@lightning.itga.com.au> <816676737.20000801132219@pd.chel.ru> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Sergey A. Ivanov" wrote: > Hello Gregory, > Tuesday, August 01, 2000, 11:25:28 AM, you wrote: > > >> Are there any limits for size/quantity of partitions at freebsd > >> slice? > > GB> 4 slices per disk, 8 partitions per slice (by convention, partition "c" covers > GB> the whole disk so usually only 7 usable partitions). > > GB> AFAIK FreeBSD cannot use the so-called "extended partitions" (i.e. > GB> slices-within-slices). As I wrote to Gregory, the "AFAIK" part isn't true. You *can* create and use partitions in the "extended partition". I have two of them mounted right now. :-) > I'm tried create new partition on slice with >5Gb free space and failed. > Partition with 4096Mb was created successfully. Now i have 5 > partitions on this slice and can't create new for rest 1+ Gb :( > Slice (as i can remember) is more than 8Gb, HDD is IBM SCSI 18Gb. I don't know why this didn't work for you. Right now, My /usr is 17.7GB, and /export is 16.7GB. There are 5GB free on the disk in an unused FAT partition, just in case I need to install "another" OS. -- Chris BeHanna Software Engineer (at yourfit.com) behanna@zbzoom.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Aug 1 1:42: 5 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from plamen.bgstore.com (bgstore.digsys.bg [193.68.22.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE27A37BDAF for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 01:41:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from plamendp@bgstore.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.bgstore.com [127.0.0.1]) by plamen.bgstore.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA06663 for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 11:39:58 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from plamendp@bgstore.com) Message-Id: <200008010839.LAA06663@plamen.bgstore.com> Subject: telnet connection refused from IP outside subnet Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org From: plamendp@bgstore.com Content-type: text/plain Mime-version: 1.0 X-Sender-ip: 4d23f171 Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2000 11:39 +0100 X-mailer: Netbula AnyEMail(TM) 4.67 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Given this example IPs: My Home PC: 193.68.31.27 /dynamic IP from ISP, dial-up/ My Server: 193.68.22.2 I can telnet /and pop3 server is ok, popper/ Now, with this: My Home PC: 212.50.35.2 /dynamic IP from another ISP, dial-up/ My Server: 193.68.22.2 I CAN NOT telnet /pop3 server connection refused as well/ Why that ? /etc/hosts.allow 's first line is ALL : ALL : allow I have root privileges on my server! Actualy, this is my server plugged in the first ISP's LAN. please give some help! ------------------- Plamen D. Petkov, ICQ# 2214327 plamendp@bgstore.com First Bulgarian Internet Store http://www.bgstore.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Aug 1 2:59: 7 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from plamen.bgstore.com (bgstore.digsys.bg [193.68.22.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEC6D37B6DF for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 02:58:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from plamendp@bgstore.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.bgstore.com [127.0.0.1]) by plamen.bgstore.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA07790 for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 12:56:53 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from plamendp@bgstore.com) Message-Id: <200008010956.MAA07790@plamen.bgstore.com> Subject: Re: telnet connection refused from IP outside subnet Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org From: plamendp@bgstore.com Content-type: text/plain Mime-version: 1.0 X-Sender-ip: 4d23f171 Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2000 12:56 +0100 X-mailer: Netbula AnyEMail(TM) 4.67 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > >In that case it should log failure using the auth service...Try creating >the file /var/log/auth.log and adding a line into /etc/syslog.conf: > Actualy, I don't have 'login failers'. I just can't connect! "Connection refused", not login failer! I do not get login prompt at all! I even do not get any message from telnet-client! Just 'connection refused'. Currently I use ssh to log-in. I did what you suggest in /etc/syslog.conf. ssh logins are logged now, etc. But nothing else! > >On your server use the host command. Type "host " where ... 'host' is ok in both directions (host and host gives the same name/IP). Can I assume resolving is ok ? If i could force things to be logged somehow :-) I can send my /etc/syslog.conf if it will be of help ? ------------------- Plamen D. Petkov, ICQ# 2214327 plamendp@bgstore.com First Bulgarian Internet Store http://www.bgstore.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Aug 1 3:51:59 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de (dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de [139.174.243.252]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6CB237B7FA for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 03:51:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from olli@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de) Received: (from olli@localhost) by dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA87702; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 12:51:53 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from olli) Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2000 12:51:53 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <200008011051.MAA87702@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de> From: Oliver Fromme To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: SSH in 4.1 RELEASE for NonUS users X-Newsgroups: list.freebsd-stable In-Reply-To: <8m3fsi$2sf5$1@atlantis.rz.tu-clausthal.de> Organization: Administration TU Clausthal MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: tin/1.4.1-19991201 ("Polish") (UNIX) (FreeBSD/3.4-19991219-STABLE (i386)) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In list.freebsd-stable Mark Ibell wrote: > The only real option (at least for international users) seems to be to do a > 'make world' with USA_RESIDENT=NO. Or install from one of the international servers that build the releases themselves with USA_RESIDENT=NO, including: current.jp.freebsd.org ftp7.de.freebsd.org On ftp7.de there's also a "barebone" ISO image of 4.1-R that has been built the same way. It contains just the base system, sources and XFree86, but no optional packages, so it is much smaller than the ISO on ftp.freebsd.org. There's also a Live Filesystem / "Fixit" CD ISO image. Regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme, Leibnizstr. 18/61, 38678 Clausthal, Germany (Info: finger userinfo:olli@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de) Addresses will change soon!! If in doubt: www.fromme.com "In jedem Stück Kohle wartet ein Diamant auf seine Geburt" (Terry Pratchett) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Aug 1 4: 4:48 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from flood.ping.uio.no (flood.ping.uio.no [129.240.78.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E50C37BE45 for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 04:04:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from des@flood.ping.uio.no) Received: (from des@localhost) by flood.ping.uio.no (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA26386; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 13:04:33 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from des@flood.ping.uio.no) To: dan@langille.org Cc: andrew@ugh.net.au, Mike Tancsa , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: is fetch broken? References: <20000729174208.F59315@strontium.scientia.demon.co.uk> <3984A96B.25614.32C9659A@localhost> From: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Date: 01 Aug 2000 13:04:32 +0200 In-Reply-To: "Dan Langille"'s message of "Sun, 30 Jul 2000 22:17:15 +1200" Message-ID: Lines: 16 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0802 (Gnus v5.8.2) Emacs/20.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Please provide revision numbers or checkout dates for working / non-working versions. If at all possible, rebuild libfetch with DEBUG defined (see instructions below) and mail me the output of failed transfers. # cd /usr/src/lib/libfetch && \ make cleandir && \ make obj && \ make depend && \ make -DDEBUG && \ make install DES -- Dag-Erling Smorgrav - des@flood.ping.uio.no To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Aug 1 4:27:42 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from epsilon.lucida.qc.ca (epsilon.lucida.qc.ca [216.95.146.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 42A1E37BEB4 for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 04:27:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from matt@ARPA.MAIL.NET) Received: (qmail 5244 invoked by uid 1000); 1 Aug 2000 11:27:36 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 1 Aug 2000 11:27:36 -0000 Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2000 07:27:34 -0400 (EDT) From: Matt Heckaman X-Sender: matt@epsilon.lucida.qc.ca To: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Cc: FreeBSD-STABLE Subject: Re: is fetch broken? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Rating: localhost 1.6.2 0/1000/N Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, 1 Aug 2000, Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote: : Please provide revision numbers or checkout dates for working / : non-working versions. Revision of usr.bin/fetch/fetch.c = 1.10.2.6 2000/07/06 Revision of lib/libfetch/fetch.c = 1.10.2.4 2000/07/21 : If at all possible, rebuild libfetch with DEBUG defined (see : instructions below) and mail me the output of failed transfers. Here's the output on my 4.1-STABLE machine: > fetch http://quote.yahoo.com/d\?f=snl1d1t1c1p2va2bapomwerr1dyj1\&s=DJI scheme: [http] user: [] password: [] host: [quote.yahoo.com] port: [0] document: [/d?f=snl1d1t1c1p2va2bapomwerr1dyj1&s=DJI] - ---> quote.yahoo.com:80 >>> GET /d?f=snl1d1t1c1p2va2bapomwerr1dyj1&s=DJI HTTP/1.1 >>> Host: quote.yahoo.com >>> User-Agent: fetch libfetch/2.0 >>> Connection: close >>> <<< HTTP/1.0 200 OK <<< Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2000 11:23:22 GMT <<< Cache-Control: private <<< Connection: close <<< Content-Type: application/octet-stream <<< offset: 0, length: -1, size: -1, clength: -1 Receiving d?f=snl1d1t1c1p2va2bapomwerr1dyj1&s=DJI (4294967295 bytes): 0% 116 bytes transferred in 0.0 seconds (70.72 kBps) fetch: d?f=snl1d1t1c1p2va2bapomwerr1dyj1&s=DJI appears to be truncated: 116/4294967295 bytes : DES : -- : Dag-Erling Smorgrav - des@flood.ping.uio.no I hope that helps :) * Matt Heckaman - mailto:matt@lucida.qc.ca http://www.lucida.qc.ca/ * * GPG fingerprint - A9BC F3A8 278E 22F2 9BDA BFCF 74C3 2D31 C035 5390 * -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.2 (FreeBSD) Comment: http://www.lucida.qc.ca/pgp iD8DBQE5hrQndMMtMcA1U5ARAtFeAKCfS7jbaJy0eJazMjG9yvUpf2psdACdEmTm dv5LUZmFdnLCb0vPKs0XzP0= =zVNW -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Aug 1 5: 4:30 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from xocah.dhs.org (s210-181-113-213.thrunet.ne.kr [210.181.113.213]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A4DD37B938 for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 05:04:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tsoi@xocah.dhs.org) Received: (from tsoi@localhost) by xocah.dhs.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA43910 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 21:04:29 +0900 (KST) (envelope-from tsoi) Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2000 21:04:29 +0900 From: "H . S . YOON" To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: succeed. -_-;; Message-ID: <20000801210429.A43796@xocah.dhs.org> Reply-To: "H . S . YOON" References: <75ADD7496F0BD211ADC000104B8846CF012CEEA3@rerun.lucentctc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.4i In-Reply-To: <75ADD7496F0BD211ADC000104B8846CF012CEEA3@rerun.lucentctc.com>; from mcambria@lucent.com on Mon, Jul 31, 2000 at 11:36:10AM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I succeeded! My step is like this.. 1. CVSuped to RELENG_4 && 'CFLAGS= -O -pipe' 'USA_RESIDENT=NO' in /etc/make.conf ( i'm not an American ) 2. cd /usr/src ; make buildworld 3. cd /usr/src/sys/i386/conf ; cp GENERIC MYKERNEL && configure MYKERNEL ; cd /usr/src ; make buildkernel KERNEL=MYKERNEL ; make installkernel KERNEL=MYKERNEL 4. cd /usr/src/sys/modules ; make install --> failed but i skipped this step 5. cd /usr/src/sbin/mknod ; make install ; make install 6. cp /usr/src/etc/MAKEDEV /dev ; sh MAKEDEV all ; ( MAKEDEV your own slice. see your own /etc/fstab ) ; change 'wd' to 'ad' in /etc/fstab 7. reboot to single user ( boot -s ) ; mount your partition with rw ( ex. /, /usr, /var, /home, etc. ) 8. cd /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/texinfo/install-info ; make install 9. cd /usr/src ; make installworld ( if happen any ld-elf.so warning, do 'ldconfig -R /usr/obj/usr/src/lib/libc' and 'make installworld' again. ) 10. mergemaster 11. reboot( to nomal booting ) This is the steps are described in /usr/src/UPDAING. -_-; Thanx for all who have given his hands to me. Best regards, Tsoi. Thus spake Cambria, Mike (mcambria@lucent.com) ::::: : I agree. I just updated 2 machines last night. A Pentium from 3.5-Stable : and a PIII from 3.4-Stable. I had the make installworld problem on both, : but UPDATING expected the exact problem I had and suggested using ldconfig, : then redoing installworld. : : The only other snag I hit (on both systems) was on the "make install" step : for /usr/src/sys/modules. I hit a problem many others had on the -stable : mailing list. I haven't seen an "official" answer on the list yet. What I : did was just skipped this step until I was done with everything else. Then : running 4.1-Stable in multiuser mode, I simply went into : /usr/src/sys/modules, did make, then make install. : : MikeC : : Michael C. Cambria AVAYA Communication : Formerly Lucent Technologies Enterprise : Networks Group : Voice: (978) 287 - 2807 300 Baker Avenue : Fax: (978) 287 - 2810 Concord, Massachusetts 01742 : Internet: mcambria@avaya.com -- no signature To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Aug 1 5:15:26 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from flood.ping.uio.no (flood.ping.uio.no [129.240.78.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EDD537B938 for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 05:15:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from des@flood.ping.uio.no) Received: (from des@localhost) by flood.ping.uio.no (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA26665; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 14:15:17 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from des@flood.ping.uio.no) To: Matt Heckaman Cc: FreeBSD-STABLE Subject: Re: is fetch broken? References: From: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Date: 01 Aug 2000 14:15:16 +0200 In-Reply-To: Matt Heckaman's message of "Tue, 1 Aug 2000 07:27:34 -0400 (EDT)" Message-ID: Lines: 10 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0802 (Gnus v5.8.2) Emacs/20.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Matt Heckaman writes: > I hope that helps :) Yes. The estimated size is wrong due to an incorrect typecast, so fetch(1) complains that it doesn't match the actual size. The received file is almost certainly complete and correct. DES -- Dag-Erling Smorgrav - des@flood.ping.uio.no To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Aug 1 5:17:49 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from epsilon.lucida.qc.ca (epsilon.lucida.qc.ca [216.95.146.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8316A37BB91 for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 05:17:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from matt@ARPA.MAIL.NET) Received: (qmail 5765 invoked by uid 1000); 1 Aug 2000 12:17:42 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 1 Aug 2000 12:17:42 -0000 Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2000 08:17:40 -0400 (EDT) From: Matt Heckaman X-Sender: matt@epsilon.lucida.qc.ca To: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Cc: FreeBSD-STABLE Subject: Re: is fetch broken? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Rating: localhost 1.6.2 0/1000/N Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, 1 Aug 2000, Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote: ... : Yes. The estimated size is wrong due to an incorrect typecast, so : fetch(1) complains that it doesn't match the actual size. The received : file is almost certainly complete and correct. *nods* It still breaks wmstock though, it never sees itself as getting the complete file and errors out, and keeps on trying making temporary files that it never knows are correct :) Thank you for the quick diagnoses though, it's appreciated. : DES : -- : Dag-Erling Smorgrav - des@flood.ping.uio.no * Matt Heckaman - mailto:matt@lucida.qc.ca http://www.lucida.qc.ca/ * * GPG fingerprint - A9BC F3A8 278E 22F2 9BDA BFCF 74C3 2D31 C035 5390 * -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.2 (FreeBSD) Comment: http://www.lucida.qc.ca/pgp iD8DBQE5hr/mdMMtMcA1U5ARAn6iAKDMHXgjKW88uHLHNILbj+KVOzDfTgCgkd8x WPgoFuZX9r5OAdrcn8ZSeV8= =Uprw -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Aug 1 5:58:50 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail01.phoenixdsl.com (mail01.phoenixdsl.com [216.178.151.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B5FD37B857 for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 05:58:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gary@infomatrix.net) Received: from LUCY ([24.22.146.75]) by mail01.phoenixdsl.com (InterMail vK.4.02.00.05.01 201-232-116-105-101 license da4da6e5fc829a7858725236bede8deb) with SMTP id <20000801125842.HLAP19182.mail01@LUCY> for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 07:58:42 -0500 From: "Gary" To: Subject: Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2000 08:04:30 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.3018.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG subscribe freebsd-stable To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Aug 1 6:32:12 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from vinyl.sentex.ca (vinyl.sentex.ca [209.112.4.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D43437BEF3 for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 06:32:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from granite.sentex.net (granite-atm.sentex.ca [209.112.4.1]) by vinyl.sentex.ca (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA71021; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 09:32:00 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from simoeon.sentex.net (simeon.sentex.ca [209.112.4.47]) by granite.sentex.net (8.8.8/8.6.9) with ESMTP id JAA26165; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 09:31:59 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.0.20000801092010.04782d70@marble.sentex.ca> X-Sender: mdtpop@marble.sentex.ca X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2000 09:27:49 -0400 To: Dag-Erling Smorgrav From: Mike Tancsa Subject: Re: is fetch broken? Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: References: <"Dan Langille"'s message of "Sun, 30 Jul 2000 22:17:15 +1200"> <20000729174208.F59315@strontium.scientia.demon.co.uk> <3984A96B.25614.32C9659A@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 01:04 PM 8/1/00 +0200, Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote: >Please provide revision numbers or checkout dates for working / >non-working versions. working $FreeBSD: src/usr.bin/fetch/http.c,v 1.31 2000/03/08 13:02:10 cracauer Exp $ From July 14th non working $FreeBSD: src/usr.bin/fetch/fetch.c,v 1.10.2.6 2000/07/26 07:56:16 des Exp $ July 28th >If at all possible, rebuild libfetch with DEBUG defined (see >instructions below) and mail me the output of failed transfers. newmail# fetch http://www.netscape.com/index.html scheme: [http] user: [] password: [] host: [www.netscape.com] port: [0] document: [/index.html] ---> www.netscape.com:80 >>> GET /index.html HTTP/1.1 >>> Host: www.netscape.com >>> User-Agent: fetch libfetch/2.0 >>> Connection: close >>> <<< HTTP/1.1 200 OK <<< Server: Netscape-Enterprise/4.1 <<< Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2000 13:28:19 GMT <<< Set-Cookie: UIDC=207.245.238.163:0965136499:466110;domain=.netscape.com;path=/;expires=31-Dec-2010 23:59:59 GMT <<< Content-type: text/html <<< Connection: close <<< offset: 0, length: -1, size: -1, clength: -1 Receiving index.html (4294967295 bytes): 0% 45088 bytes transferred in 0.8 seconds (53.11 kBps) fetch: index.html appears to be truncated: 45088/4294967295 bytes newmail# fetch http://www.sentex.net/index.html scheme: [http] user: [] password: [] host: [www.sentex.net] port: [0] document: [/index.html] ---> www.sentex.net:80 >>> GET /index.html HTTP/1.1 >>> Host: www.sentex.net >>> User-Agent: fetch libfetch/2.0 >>> Connection: close >>> <<< HTTP/1.1 200 OK <<< Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2000 13:28:30 GMT <<< Server: Apache/1.3.9 (Unix) <<< Connection: close <<< Transfer-Encoding: chunked <<< Content-Type: text/html <<< offset: 0, length: -1, size: -1, clength: -1 Receiving index.html (4294967295 bytes): 0%<<< cff _http_fillbuf(): new chunk: 3327 (3327) <<< 0 _http_fillbuf(): end of last chunk Receiving index.html (4294967295 bytes): 0% 3327 bytes transferred in 0.1 seconds (34.10 kBps) fetch: index.html appears to be truncated: 3327/4294967295 bytes newmail# and one that works for some reason newmail# fetch http://www.microsoft.com/default.htm scheme: [http] user: [] password: [] host: [www.microsoft.com] port: [0] document: [/default.htm] ---> www.microsoft.com:80 >>> GET /default.htm HTTP/1.1 >>> Host: www.microsoft.com >>> User-Agent: fetch libfetch/2.0 >>> Connection: close >>> <<< HTTP/1.1 200 OK <<< Server: Microsoft-IIS/5.0 <<< Connection: close <<< Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2000 13:28:50 GMT <<< Content-Type: text/html <<< Accept-Ranges: bytes <<< Last-Modified: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 18:09:33 GMT last modified: [2000-07-31 18:09:33] <<< ETag: "f4cbbb7a1afbbf1:87e" <<< Content-Length: 15957 content length: [15957] <<< offset: 0, length: -1, size: -1, clength: 15957 Receiving default.htm (15957 bytes): 100% 15957 bytes transferred in 0.3 seconds (48.24 kBps) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Mike Tancsa, tel +1 519 651 3400 Sentex Communications mike@sentex.net Cambridge, Ontario Canada www.sentex.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Aug 1 6:58:56 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ny-mx-02.painewebber.com (ny-mx-02.painewebber.com [161.15.35.123]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7CC637B83A for ; 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Tue, 1 Aug 2000 07:03:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ronald@klop.yi.org) Received: (qmail 79097 invoked from network); 1 Aug 2000 14:03:54 -0000 Received: from dlanor.evertsen.nl (10.0.0.3) by bak.evertsen.nl with SMTP; 1 Aug 2000 14:03:54 -0000 Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2000 16:03:48 +0200 (CEST) From: Ronald Klop To: Mike Tancsa Cc: Dag-Erling Smorgrav , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: is fetch broken? In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.0.20000801092010.04782d70@marble.sentex.ca> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 It appears to me that fetch doesn't handle answers well if there isn't a content-length given by the server. On Tue, 1 Aug 2000, Mike Tancsa wrote: > At 01:04 PM 8/1/00 +0200, Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote: > >Please provide revision numbers or checkout dates for working / > >non-working versions. > > working > $FreeBSD: src/usr.bin/fetch/http.c,v 1.31 2000/03/08 13:02:10 cracauer Exp $ > From July 14th > > non working > $FreeBSD: src/usr.bin/fetch/fetch.c,v 1.10.2.6 2000/07/26 07:56:16 des Exp $ > July 28th > > > >If at all possible, rebuild libfetch with DEBUG defined (see > >instructions below) and mail me the output of failed transfers. > > newmail# fetch http://www.netscape.com/index.html > scheme: [http] > user: [] > password: [] > host: [www.netscape.com] > port: [0] > document: [/index.html] > ---> www.netscape.com:80 > >>> GET /index.html HTTP/1.1 > >>> Host: www.netscape.com > >>> User-Agent: fetch libfetch/2.0 > >>> Connection: close > >>> > <<< HTTP/1.1 200 OK > <<< Server: Netscape-Enterprise/4.1 > <<< Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2000 13:28:19 GMT > <<< Set-Cookie: > UIDC=207.245.238.163:0965136499:466110;domain=.netscape.com;path=/;expires=31-Dec-2010 > 23:59:59 GMT > <<< Content-type: text/html > <<< Connection: close > <<< > offset: 0, length: -1, size: -1, clength: -1 > Receiving index.html (4294967295 bytes): 0% > 45088 bytes transferred in 0.8 seconds (53.11 kBps) > fetch: index.html appears to be truncated: 45088/4294967295 bytes > > newmail# fetch http://www.sentex.net/index.html > scheme: [http] > user: [] > password: [] > host: [www.sentex.net] > port: [0] > document: [/index.html] > ---> www.sentex.net:80 > >>> GET /index.html HTTP/1.1 > >>> Host: www.sentex.net > >>> User-Agent: fetch libfetch/2.0 > >>> Connection: close > >>> > <<< HTTP/1.1 200 OK > <<< Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2000 13:28:30 GMT > <<< Server: Apache/1.3.9 (Unix) > <<< Connection: close > <<< Transfer-Encoding: chunked > <<< Content-Type: text/html > <<< > offset: 0, length: -1, size: -1, clength: -1 > Receiving index.html (4294967295 bytes): 0%<<< cff > _http_fillbuf(): new chunk: 3327 (3327) > <<< 0 > _http_fillbuf(): end of last chunk > Receiving index.html (4294967295 bytes): 0% > 3327 bytes transferred in 0.1 seconds (34.10 kBps) > fetch: index.html appears to be truncated: 3327/4294967295 bytes > newmail# > > and one that works for some reason > > newmail# fetch http://www.microsoft.com/default.htm > scheme: [http] > user: [] > password: [] > host: [www.microsoft.com] > port: [0] > document: [/default.htm] > ---> www.microsoft.com:80 > >>> GET /default.htm HTTP/1.1 > >>> Host: www.microsoft.com > >>> User-Agent: fetch libfetch/2.0 > >>> Connection: close > >>> > <<< HTTP/1.1 200 OK > <<< Server: Microsoft-IIS/5.0 > <<< Connection: close > <<< Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2000 13:28:50 GMT > <<< Content-Type: text/html > <<< Accept-Ranges: bytes > <<< Last-Modified: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 18:09:33 GMT > last modified: [2000-07-31 18:09:33] > <<< ETag: "f4cbbb7a1afbbf1:87e" > <<< Content-Length: 15957 > content length: [15957] > <<< > offset: 0, length: -1, size: -1, clength: 15957 > Receiving default.htm (15957 bytes): 100% > 15957 bytes transferred in 0.3 seconds (48.24 kBps) > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Mike Tancsa, tel +1 519 651 3400 > Sentex Communications mike@sentex.net > Cambridge, Ontario Canada www.sentex.net > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > - -- Ronald Klop http://klop.yi.org/ http://www.FreeBSD.org/ http://klop.yi.org/~ronald/ PGP: http://klop.yi.org/~ronald/pgp.txt mailto:ronald@klop.yi.org?Subject=publicpgpkey -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGPfreeware 5.0i for non-commercial use Charset: noconv iQA/AwUBOYbYyRk9lWSXChWeEQIMmgCgh2kurrp7NM4UoRyMgKb/wP7IeU0AoL0K P3tvOSHAVPBIgJ9fyWtV+TA+ =bAOF -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Aug 1 7:10:38 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from web121.yahoomail.com (web121.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.129]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E112037B52C for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 07:10:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from holtor@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 2154 invoked by uid 60001); 1 Aug 2000 14:10:32 -0000 Message-ID: <20000801141032.2153.qmail@web121.yahoomail.com> Received: from [207.226.241.187] by web121.yahoomail.com; Tue, 01 Aug 2000 07:10:32 PDT Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2000 07:10:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Holtor Subject: sendmail 8.11.0 To: stable@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi all - I have been waiting for the base sendmail in freebsd, now 8.9.3 to be updated to the latest one which is 8.11.0. Anyone have any appox. dates for this? If its still a distant project, how would we recommend upgrading sendmail? That is downloading the source and compiling, but FreeBSD has mailwrapper and all those utilities which I think I would break? Any help would be appreciated. Holt __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Kick off your party with Yahoo! Invites. http://invites.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Aug 1 7:31:17 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pau-amma.whistle.com (pau-amma.whistle.com [207.76.205.64]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB9E137BF47 for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 07:31:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dhw@whistle.com) Received: (from dhw@localhost) by pau-amma.whistle.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) id e71ETQ819157; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 07:29:26 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2000 07:29:26 -0700 (PDT) From: David Wolfskill Message-Id: <200008011429.e71ETQ819157@pau-amma.whistle.com> To: holtor@yahoo.com, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: sendmail 8.11.0 In-Reply-To: <20000801141032.2153.qmail@web121.yahoomail.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2000 07:10:32 -0700 (PDT) >From: Holtor >Subject: sendmail 8.11.0 >To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG >Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG >Hi all - I have been waiting for the base sendmail in >freebsd, now 8.9.3 to be updated to the latest one >which is 8.11.0. Anyone have any appox. dates for >this? >If its still a distant project, how would we recommend >upgrading sendmail? That is downloading the source and >compiling, but FreeBSD has mailwrapper and all those >utilities which I think I would break? Any help would >be appreciated. sendmail 8.11.0 builds & installs on FreeBSD just fine. Sunday last, I upgraded the home laptop from 4.1-S that was about 4 days old to -STABLE as of that day. I had specified both "NO_MAILWRAPPER" and "NO_SENDMAIL" as true. It had been running a beta release of sendmail 8.11; I installed 8.11.0. Granted, as a laptop, it doesn't get the same kind of use that a lot of other sendmail installations get, but it works as expected. (It doesn't even seem to totaly freak that it's running on a DHCP client....) Cheers, david -- David Wolfskill dhw@whistle.com UNIX System Administrator voice: 650/577-7158 TIE: 8/499-7158 FAX: 650/372-5915 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Aug 1 7:39:15 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from fedde.littleton.co.us (fedde.littleton.co.us [216.17.174.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEEC237BF1D for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 07:39:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cfedde@fedde.littleton.co.us) Received: from fedde.littleton.co.us (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fedde.littleton.co.us (8.11.0/8.11.0.Beta3) with ESMTP id e71Ecud29174; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 08:38:56 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <200008011438.e71Ecud29174@fedde.littleton.co.us> To: Holtor Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: sendmail 8.11.0 In-Reply-To: <20000801141032.2153.qmail@web121.yahoomail.com> From: Chris Fedde Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2000 08:38:56 -0600 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 1 Aug 2000 07:10:32 -0700 (PDT) Holtor wrote: +------------------ | Hi all - I have been waiting for the base sendmail in | freebsd, now 8.9.3 to be updated to the latest one | which is 8.11.0. Anyone have any appox. dates for | this? | If its still a distant project, how would we recommend | upgrading sendmail? That is downloading the source and | compiling, but FreeBSD has mailwrapper and all those | utilities which I think I would break? Any help would | be appreciated. | | Holt +------------------ I just download sendmail, compile it, install it, and start it up. The existing /etc/rc.conf mechinism continues to work well. I find the whole mailwrapper thing bizarre in the extreem. It is similar to the whole /usr/local/etc/rc.d scheme where we are adding a layer of indirection when there is no need for one. chris -- Chris Fedde 303 773 9134 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Aug 1 7:48:31 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from web113.yahoomail.com (web113.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.84]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5174E37B84B for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 07:48:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from holtor@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 29325 invoked by uid 60001); 1 Aug 2000 14:48:17 -0000 Message-ID: <20000801144817.29324.qmail@web113.yahoomail.com> Received: from [207.226.241.187] by web113.yahoomail.com; Tue, 01 Aug 2000 07:48:17 PDT Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2000 07:48:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Holtor Subject: Recent crypto changes To: stable@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi again - I recently did a fresh install of freebsd 4.0 and upgraded it to the latest 4.1 right away. I started up the sshd thats built in (/usr/sbin/sshd) and it worked right from there. If memory serves me correctly I would normally have to install rsaref from ports wouldn't I? USA Resident is yes here.. Thanks for any input. Holt __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Kick off your party with Yahoo! Invites. http://invites.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Aug 1 7:53: 4 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp10.atl.mindspring.net (smtp10.atl.mindspring.net [207.69.200.246]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD8BB37B6C0 for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 07:53:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mvh@ix.netcom.com) Received: from netcom1.netcom.com (lai-ca4b-42.ix.netcom.com [209.110.245.42]) by smtp10.atl.mindspring.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA27896; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 10:52:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: by netcom1.netcom.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 1DFAEE6C15; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 07:52:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Mike Harding To: chris@fedde.littleton.co.us Cc: holtor@yahoo.com, stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: <200008011438.e71Ecud29174@fedde.littleton.co.us> (message from Chris Fedde on Tue, 01 Aug 2000 08:38:56 -0600) Subject: Re: sendmail 8.11.0 References: <200008011438.e71Ecud29174@fedde.littleton.co.us> Message-Id: <20000801145216.1DFAEE6C15@netcom1.netcom.com> Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2000 07:52:16 -0700 (PDT) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG As a sendmail user, you might find it bizarre. As a postfix user, I don't. Not everyone uses/likes sendmail. - Mike H. Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG From: Chris Fedde Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2000 08:38:56 -0600 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-RULES: lists On Tue, 1 Aug 2000 07:10:32 -0700 (PDT) Holtor wrote: +------------------ | Hi all - I have been waiting for the base sendmail in | freebsd, now 8.9.3 to be updated to the latest one | which is 8.11.0. Anyone have any appox. dates for | this? | If its still a distant project, how would we recommend | upgrading sendmail? That is downloading the source and | compiling, but FreeBSD has mailwrapper and all those | utilities which I think I would break? Any help would | be appreciated. | | Holt +------------------ I just download sendmail, compile it, install it, and start it up. The existing /etc/rc.conf mechinism continues to work well. I find the whole mailwrapper thing bizarre in the extreem. It is similar to the whole /usr/local/etc/rc.d scheme where we are adding a layer of indirection when there is no need for one. chris -- Chris Fedde 303 773 9134 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Aug 1 7:57:45 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from exchange.mistral.co.uk (gate.mistral.co.uk [195.184.225.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89A2037B856 for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 07:57:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hdm@mistral.co.uk) Received: from bizboz.mistral.co.uk ([195.184.225.25]) by exchange.mistral.co.uk with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2448.0) id PLBL6B5L; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 15:50:19 +0100 Received: by bizboz.mistral.co.uk (Postfix, from userid 1000) id A960B382; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 15:57:35 +0100 (BST) Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2000 15:57:35 +0100 From: Dominic Mitchell To: Chris Fedde Cc: Holtor , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: sendmail 8.11.0 Message-ID: <20000801155735.B97403@bizboz.mistral.co.uk> References: <20000801141032.2153.qmail@web121.yahoomail.com> <200008011438.e71Ecud29174@fedde.littleton.co.us> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <200008011438.e71Ecud29174@fedde.littleton.co.us>; from chris@fedde.littleton.co.us on Tue, Aug 01, 2000 at 08:38:56AM -0600 X-Warning: Incoming message from The Big Giant Head! X-OS: FreeBSD 4.1-RC i386 X-Uptime: 3:39PM up 11 days, 23:15, 8 users, load averages: 0.06, 0.24, 0.45 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Aug 01, 2000 at 08:38:56AM -0600, Chris Fedde wrote: > I find > the whole mailwrapper thing bizarre in the extreem. It is similar > to the whole /usr/local/etc/rc.d scheme where we are adding a > layer of indirection when there is no need for one. On the contrary - I find it a complete godsend. It makes replacing the standard sendmail with a port/package and absolute breeze. It's far nicer than having each port hack around in /usr/sbin for no good reason. -Dom To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Aug 1 8:12:58 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from xocah.dhs.org (s210-181-113-213.thrunet.ne.kr [210.181.113.213]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF46937B856 for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 08:12:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tsoi@xocah.dhs.org) Received: (from tsoi@localhost) by xocah.dhs.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA44926 for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 00:12:50 +0900 (KST) (envelope-from tsoi) Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 00:12:50 +0900 From: "H . S . YOON" To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: succeed. -_-;; Message-ID: <20000802001250.A44841@xocah.dhs.org> Reply-To: "H . S . YOON" References: <75ADD7496F0BD211ADC000104B8846CF012CEEA3@rerun.lucentctc.com> <20000801210429.A43796@xocah.dhs.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.4i In-Reply-To: <20000801210429.A43796@xocah.dhs.org>; from tsoi@xocah.dhs.org on Tue, Aug 01, 2000 at 09:04:29PM +0900 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Sorry, mistype.. just *one* 'make install' in my step 5. "5. cd /usr/src/sbin/mknod ; make install" Thus spake H . S . YOON (tsoi@xocah.dhs.org) ::::: : 5. cd /usr/src/sbin/mknod ; make install ; make install -- no signature To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Aug 1 8:37: 8 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp23.singnet.com.sg (smtp23.singnet.com.sg [165.21.101.203]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BCDE37B81A for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 08:36:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from twchan@singnet.com.sg) Received: from twchan.singnet.com.sg (58charlie322.singnet.com.sg [165.21.214.236]) by smtp23.singnet.com.sg (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA01547; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 23:36:51 +0800 (envelope-from twchan@singnet.com.sg) Message-Id: <4.3.1.2.20000801232908.00ae46f0@zaapth> X-Sender: twchan@zaapth (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.1 Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2000 23:34:53 +0800 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG From: Chan Tur Wei Subject: Re: succeed. -_-;; Cc: "H . S . YOON" In-Reply-To: <20000801210429.A43796@xocah.dhs.org> References: <75ADD7496F0BD211ADC000104B8846CF012CEEA3@rerun.lucentctc.com> <75ADD7496F0BD211ADC000104B8846CF012CEEA3@rerun.lucentctc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, Like you, I also initially skipped the following marked lines from /usr/src/UPDATING: make buildkernel KERNEL= make installkernel KERNEL= # Verify that the new kernel works, it will be installed as # /YOUR_KERNEL_HERE chflags noschg /kernel <--- chflags noschg /YOUR_KERNEL_HERE <--- mv /kernel /kernel.old <--- mv /YOUR_KERNEL_HERE /kernel <--- chflags schg /kernel <--- "make installkernel" simply copies the built kernel into /MYKERNEL, and so those marked lines above are needed to (a) zap the old kernel away (actually, just renamed as /kernel.old) and then (b) copy the new kernel in. If you didn't do those steps, you'll simply be running the OLD kernel which in most cases will be the GENERIC or worse yet, your old 3.x kernel. Hope this helps, -T.W.Chan- At 09:04 PM 8/1/00 +0900, H . S . YOON wrote: >I succeeded! > >My step is like this.. > >1. CVSuped to RELENG_4 && 'CFLAGS= -O -pipe' 'USA_RESIDENT=NO' >in /etc/make.conf ( i'm not an American ) > >2. cd /usr/src ; make buildworld > >3. cd /usr/src/sys/i386/conf ; cp GENERIC MYKERNEL && configure MYKERNEL ; > cd /usr/src ; make buildkernel KERNEL=MYKERNEL ; > make installkernel KERNEL=MYKERNEL > >4. cd /usr/src/sys/modules ; make install --> failed but i skipped this step > >5. cd /usr/src/sbin/mknod ; make install ; make install > >6. cp /usr/src/etc/MAKEDEV /dev ; sh MAKEDEV all ; ( MAKEDEV your own slice. see your own /etc/fstab ) ; change 'wd' to 'ad' in /etc/fstab > >7. reboot to single user ( boot -s ) ; > mount your partition with rw ( ex. /, /usr, /var, /home, etc. ) > >8. cd /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/texinfo/install-info ; make install > >9. cd /usr/src ; make installworld >( if happen any ld-elf.so warning, do 'ldconfig -R /usr/obj/usr/src/lib/libc' >and 'make installworld' again. ) > >10. mergemaster > >11. reboot( to nomal booting ) > > >This is the steps are described in /usr/src/UPDAING. -_-; >Thanx for all who have given his hands to me. > >Best regards, >Tsoi. > > >Thus spake Cambria, Mike (mcambria@lucent.com) ::::: > >: I agree. I just updated 2 machines last night. A Pentium from 3.5-Stable >: and a PIII from 3.4-Stable. I had the make installworld problem on both, >: but UPDATING expected the exact problem I had and suggested using ldconfig, >: then redoing installworld. >: >: The only other snag I hit (on both systems) was on the "make install" step >: for /usr/src/sys/modules. I hit a problem many others had on the -stable >: mailing list. I haven't seen an "official" answer on the list yet. What I >: did was just skipped this step until I was done with everything else. Then >: running 4.1-Stable in multiuser mode, I simply went into >: /usr/src/sys/modules, did make, then make install. >: >: MikeC >: >: Michael C. Cambria AVAYA Communication >: Formerly Lucent Technologies Enterprise >: Networks Group >: Voice: (978) 287 - 2807 300 Baker Avenue >: Fax: (978) 287 - 2810 Concord, Massachusetts 01742 >: Internet: mcambria@avaya.com > >-- >no signature > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Aug 1 8:37:11 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp.abac.com (smtp.abac.com [216.55.128.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77D8F37B891; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 08:37:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pens@abac.com) Received: from sprite (la-ppp-214.abac.net [216.55.131.114]) by smtp.abac.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) with SMTP id e71Fb0W79001; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 08:37:01 -0700 (PDT) From: "Kevin" To: Cc: Subject: pcm0: pci error Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2000 08:36:58 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG i have a sound blaster live value and when i compiled in 'device pcm' in the kernel i get this error message about a thousand times (or whenver i play sound) pcm0: pci error here is my dmesg, keep in mind that i can still actually play sound, but this message is very annoying. Copyright (c) 1992-2000 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 4.1-RELEASE #1: Mon Jul 31 08:52:37 PDT 2000 root@sprite.abac.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/SPRITE Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz Timecounter "TSC" frequency 551252232 Hz CPU: Pentium II/Pentium II Xeon/Celeron (551.25-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x665 Stepping = 5 Features=0x183f9ff real memory = 134217728 (131072K bytes) avail memory = 127148032 (124168K bytes) Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc0357000. Pentium Pro MTRR support enabled md0: Malloc disk npx0: on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface pcib0: on motherboard pci0: on pcib0 pcib1: at device 1.0 on pci0 pci1: on pcib1 isab0: at device 7.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 atapci0: port 0xf000-0xf00f at device 7.1 on pci0 ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0 ata1: at 0x170 irq 15 on atapci0 uhci0: port 0xe000-0xe01f irq 11 at device 7.2 on pci0 usb0: on uhci0 usb0: USB revision 1.0 uhub0: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhub0: port 1 power on failed, IOERROR uhub0: port 2 power on failed, IOERROR ums0: Microsoft Microsoft IntelliMouse\M-. Explorer, rev 1.10/1.03, addr 2, iclass 3/1 ums0: 5 buttons and Z dir. chip1: port 0x5000-0x500f at device 7.3 on pci0 ed0: port 0xe400-0xe41f irq 5 at device 11.0 on pci0 ed0: address 52:54:00:e2:26:3d, type NE2000 (16 bit) pcm0: port 0xe800-0xe81f irq 12 at device 13.0 on pci0 bktr0: mem 0xd7000000-0xd7000fff irq 10 at device 15.0 on pci0 bktr0: Hauppauge Model 61001 A2M Hauppauge WinCast/TV, Philips NTSC tuner. pci0: (vendor=0x109e, dev=0x0878) at 15.1 irq 10 pci0: at 17.0 irq 11 fdc0: at port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa0 fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0 atkbdc0: at port 0x60,0x64 on isa0 atkbd0: flags 0x1 irq 1 on atkbdc0 kbd0 at atkbd0 vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 sc0: at flags 0x100 on isa0 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300> sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa0 sio0: type 16550A sio1 at port 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa0 sio1: type 16550A sio2: configured irq 5 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0 sio3: configured irq 9 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0 ppc0: at port 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on isa0 ppc0: Generic chipset (NIBBLE-only) in COMPATIBLE mode ppi0: on ppbus0 lpt0: on ppbus0 lpt0: Interrupt-driven port ata0-master: DMA limitted to UDMA33, non-ATA66 compliant cable ad0: 19541MB [39703/16/63] at ata0-master using UDMA33 ad1: 6194MB [13424/15/63] at ata0-slave using UDMA33 acd0: DVD-ROM at ata1-master using PIO4 acd1: CD-R at ata1-slave using PIO4 Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad1s1a cd9660: RockRidge Extension pcm0: pci error pcm0: pci error pcm0: pci error pcm0: pci error pcm0: pci error pcm0: pci error pcm0: pci error To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Aug 1 8:43: 7 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from epsilon.lucida.qc.ca (epsilon.lucida.qc.ca [216.95.146.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B8DB837B8AA for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 08:42:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from matt@ARPA.MAIL.NET) Received: (qmail 7038 invoked by uid 1000); 1 Aug 2000 15:42:51 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 1 Aug 2000 15:42:51 -0000 Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2000 11:42:48 -0400 (EDT) From: Matt Heckaman X-Sender: matt@epsilon.lucida.qc.ca To: Chan Tur Wei Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, "H . S . YOON" Subject: Re: succeed. -_-;; In-Reply-To: <4.3.1.2.20000801232908.00ae46f0@zaapth> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Rating: localhost 1.6.2 0/1000/N Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, 1 Aug 2000, Chan Tur Wei wrote: ... : "make installkernel" simply copies the built kernel into /MYKERNEL, : and so those marked lines above are needed to (a) zap the old kernel : away (actually, just renamed as /kernel.old) and then (b) copy the new : kernel in. : : If you didn't do those steps, you'll simply be running the OLD kernel : which in most cases will be the GENERIC or worse yet, your old 3.x : kernel. Or... edit /boot/load.conf - - kernel="/kernel" + kernel="/MYKERNEL" I'm tempted to write a 'make replacekernel' target that does things like that automated, would definately help out :) : Hope this helps, : : -T.W.Chan- * Matt Heckaman - mailto:matt@lucida.qc.ca http://www.lucida.qc.ca/ * * GPG fingerprint - A9BC F3A8 278E 22F2 9BDA BFCF 74C3 2D31 C035 5390 * -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.2 (FreeBSD) Comment: http://www.lucida.qc.ca/pgp iD8DBQE5hu/6dMMtMcA1U5ARAp1SAJ0bHwJE2oLJAxTaarhY0otApJptSACgmKGs H3msDM2ucaKdaTwVKkPZswI= =d6vN -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Aug 1 9: 1:30 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from exchange.mistral.co.uk (gate.mistral.co.uk [195.184.225.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C154B37B575 for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 09:01:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hdm@mistral.co.uk) Received: from bizboz.mistral.co.uk ([195.184.225.25]) by exchange.mistral.co.uk with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2448.0) id PLBL6B6H; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 16:54:01 +0100 Received: by bizboz.mistral.co.uk (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 7E5DE383; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 17:01:17 +0100 (BST) Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2000 17:01:17 +0100 From: Dominic Mitchell To: Matt Heckaman Cc: Chan Tur Wei , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, "H . S . YOON" Subject: Re: succeed. -_-;; Message-ID: <20000801170117.A97854@bizboz.mistral.co.uk> References: <4.3.1.2.20000801232908.00ae46f0@zaapth> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: ; from matt@ARPA.MAIL.NET on Tue, Aug 01, 2000 at 11:42:48AM -0400 X-Warning: Incoming message from The Big Giant Head! X-OS: FreeBSD 4.1-RC i386 X-Uptime: 4:50PM up 12 days, 25 mins, 8 users, load averages: 0.27, 0.37, 0.40 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Aug 01, 2000 at 11:42:48AM -0400, Matt Heckaman wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Tue, 1 Aug 2000, Chan Tur Wei wrote: > ... > : "make installkernel" simply copies the built kernel into /MYKERNEL, > : and so those marked lines above are needed to (a) zap the old kernel > : away (actually, just renamed as /kernel.old) and then (b) copy the new > : kernel in. > : > : If you didn't do those steps, you'll simply be running the OLD kernel > : which in most cases will be the GENERIC or worse yet, your old 3.x > : kernel. > > Or... > > edit /boot/load.conf > > - - kernel="/kernel" > + kernel="/MYKERNEL" > > I'm tempted to write a 'make replacekernel' target that does things like > that automated, would definately help out :) It should just be a case of adding it to /boot/loader.conf as it will overwrite the default in /boot/defaults/loader.conf. This should probably be done as part of "installkernel". -Dom To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Aug 1 9: 9:12 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from hawk.gnome.co.uk (gnome.gw.cerbernet.net [193.243.224.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C73E37B767 for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 09:09:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jacs@gnome.co.uk) Received: from hawk.gnome.co.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hawk.gnome.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA19039; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 17:07:45 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from jacs@hawk.gnome.co.uk) Message-Id: <200008011607.RAA19039@hawk.gnome.co.uk> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: Dominic Mitchell Cc: Chan Tur Wei , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, "H . S . YOON" Subject: Re: succeed. -_-;; In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 01 Aug 2000 17:01:17 BST." <20000801170117.A97854@bizboz.mistral.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2000 17:07:45 +0100 From: Chris Stenton Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG or just add makeoptions KERNEL=kernel to your config file and the kernel will go to the standard place. Chris > On Tue, Aug 01, 2000 at 11:42:48AM -0400, Matt Heckaman wrote: > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > On Tue, 1 Aug 2000, Chan Tur Wei wrote: > > ... > > : "make installkernel" simply copies the built kernel into /MYKERNEL, > > : and so those marked lines above are needed to (a) zap the old kernel > > : away (actually, just renamed as /kernel.old) and then (b) copy the new > > : kernel in. > > : > > : If you didn't do those steps, you'll simply be running the OLD kernel > > : which in most cases will be the GENERIC or worse yet, your old 3.x > > : kernel. > > > > Or... > > > > edit /boot/load.conf > > > > - - kernel="/kernel" > > + kernel="/MYKERNEL" > > > > I'm tempted to write a 'make replacekernel' target that does things like > > that automated, would definately help out :) > > It should just be a case of adding it to /boot/loader.conf as it will > overwrite the default in /boot/defaults/loader.conf. > > This should probably be done as part of "installkernel". > > -Dom > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Aug 1 9:21:52 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from bmz096.ust.hk (bmz096.ust.hk [143.89.59.176]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1182137BAAE; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 09:21:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sold@quotepool.com) Received: from host10.4ua.com by bmz096.ust.hk with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.0.1460.8) id PQ5HL8JY; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 00:36:52 +0800 From: sold@quotepool.com Message-Id: <965146409.hosspp@hosspp.mail.dover.net> To: hosspp@dover.net Reply-To: sold@quotepool.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en Content-Type: text/html; Charset=us-ascii MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Do you feel only the wealthy are privy to certain secrets? hzall Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2000 09:21:21 -0700 (PDT) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG

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To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Aug 1 9:33:25 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.yourfit.com (28.wxfr1.xdsl.nauticom.net [209.195.150.61]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7BD037BF73 for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 09:33:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from behanna@zbzoom.net) Received: from armani.yourfit.com (armani.yourfit.com [192.168.1.120]) by mail.yourfit.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA10417; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 12:33:09 -0400 Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2000 12:33:09 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time) From: Chris BeHanna Reply-To: Chris BeHanna To: Holtor Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Recent crypto changes In-Reply-To: <20000801144817.29324.qmail@web113.yahoomail.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 1 Aug 2000, Holtor wrote: > Hi again - I recently did a fresh install of freebsd > 4.0 and upgraded it to the latest 4.1 right away. I > started > up the sshd thats built in (/usr/sbin/sshd) and it > worked > right from there. If memory serves me correctly I > would > normally have to install rsaref from ports wouldn't I? Not if you're using DSA... -- Chris BeHanna Software Engineer (at yourfit.com) behanna@zbzoom.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Aug 1 9:40:44 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from exchange.mistral.co.uk (gate.mistral.co.uk [195.184.225.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1747D37BD38 for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 09:40:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hdm@mistral.co.uk) Received: from bizboz.mistral.co.uk ([195.184.225.25]) by exchange.mistral.co.uk with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2448.0) id PLBL6B6T; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 17:33:12 +0100 Received: by bizboz.mistral.co.uk (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 91D4C382; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 17:40:29 +0100 (BST) Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2000 17:40:29 +0100 From: Dominic Mitchell To: Chris BeHanna Cc: Holtor , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Recent crypto changes Message-ID: <20000801174029.A98033@bizboz.mistral.co.uk> References: <20000801144817.29324.qmail@web113.yahoomail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: ; from behanna@zbzoom.net on Tue, Aug 01, 2000 at 12:33:09PM -0400 X-Warning: Incoming message from The Big Giant Head! X-OS: FreeBSD 4.1-RC i386 X-Uptime: 5:39PM up 12 days, 1:15, 8 users, load averages: 0.32, 0.23, 0.25 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Aug 01, 2000 at 12:33:09PM -0400, Chris BeHanna wrote: > On Tue, 1 Aug 2000, Holtor wrote: > > Hi again - I recently did a fresh install of freebsd 4.0 and > > upgraded it to the latest 4.1 right away. I started up the sshd > > thats built in (/usr/sbin/sshd) and it worked right from there. If > > memory serves me correctly I would normally have to install rsaref > > from ports wouldn't I? > > Not if you're using DSA... Does ssh-agent support DSA yet? I looked, but I couldn't quite get it to work... -Dom To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Aug 1 9:46:25 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ns.corridor.net (ns.corridor.net [63.90.208.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72CE037BF2F for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 09:46:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mark@corridor.net) Received: from bigdog (unverified [63.90.208.4]) by ns.corridor.net (Vircom SMTPRS 4.2.181) with SMTP id for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 11:33:05 -0500 Message-ID: <00be01bffbd7$b0c368c0$04d05a3f@corridor.net> Reply-To: "Mark Thornton" From: "Mark Thornton" To: Subject: Problem installing... Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2000 11:43:59 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I am trying to install the the stable version of the OS and I continue to get the message "can't CD to '4.0-STABLE'... on this server". It is obvious that I don't get it, and the docs don't cover how to install release vs. stable vs. current. I downloaded the floppies from the 4.0-STABLE version on releng4.freebsd.org, what else was I supposed to do? Where are the concise docs on this procedure? Mark Thornton San Marcos Internet, Inc. 512-393-5300 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Aug 1 9:53: 8 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from katroo.Sendmail.COM (katroo.Sendmail.COM [209.246.26.35]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4141237C18E for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 09:52:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from emechler@sendmail.com) Received: from sam.sendmail.com (root@sam.Sendmail.COM [10.210.109.78]) by katroo.Sendmail.COM (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA13692; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 09:52:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from emechler@localhost) by sam.sendmail.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) id JAA27348; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 09:52:14 -0700 Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2000 09:52:14 -0700 From: Erick Mechler To: behanna@zbzoom.net Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: make world fails Message-ID: <20000801095214.A27323@sendmail.com> References: <20000729141447.C196@214.norrgarden.se> <39834258.996BBAD9@gorean.org> <3984B01F.B615AAF3@mail.zbzoom.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.2i In-Reply-To: <3984B01F.B615AAF3@mail.zbzoom.net>; from Chris BeHanna on Sun, Jul 30, 2000 at 06:45:52PM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Check out http://www.bitwizard.nl/sig11/. It will help you determine what is acutally causing the error. Erick Mechler emechler@sendmail.com At Sun, Jul 30, 2000 at 06:45:52PM -0400, Chris BeHanna said this: :: Doug Barton wrote: :: :: > Signals 10 and 11 are almost always hardware. :: :: Not in my experience. Signal 11 is usually the result of attempting to :: dereference a NULL pointer. Signal 10 is usually the result of attempting to :: dereference a pointer that contains a garbage address. :: :: At least, that's been my experience. YMMV. :: :: Regards, :: Chris BeHanna :: behanna@zbzoom.net :: :: :: :: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org :: with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Aug 1 9:53:26 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.yourfit.com (28.wxfr1.xdsl.nauticom.net [209.195.150.61]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2D1637C19A for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 09:53:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from behanna@zbzoom.net) Received: from armani.yourfit.com (armani.yourfit.com [192.168.1.120]) by mail.yourfit.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA10704; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 12:52:53 -0400 Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2000 12:52:53 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time) From: Chris BeHanna Reply-To: Chris BeHanna To: plamendp@bgstore.com Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: telnet connection refused from IP outside subnet In-Reply-To: <200008010839.LAA06663@plamen.bgstore.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 1 Aug 2000 plamendp@bgstore.com wrote: > Given this example IPs: > > My Home PC: 193.68.31.27 /dynamic IP from ISP, dial-up/ > My Server: 193.68.22.2 > > I can telnet /and pop3 server is ok, popper/ > > Now, with this: > > My Home PC: 212.50.35.2 /dynamic IP from another ISP, dial-up/ > My Server: 193.68.22.2 > > I CAN NOT telnet /pop3 server connection refused as well/ > > Why that ? /etc/hosts.allow 's first line is > > ALL : ALL : allow > > I have root privileges on my server! Actualy, this is my server plugged in the first ISP's LAN. Do you have a firewall enabled on your server? If so, do you have a rule there that restricts access, allowing only 193.68.0.0/16? Finally, does your ISP block privileged ports? -- Chris BeHanna Software Engineer (at yourfit.com) behanna@zbzoom.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Aug 1 10: 6:22 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.yourfit.com (28.wxfr1.xdsl.nauticom.net [209.195.150.61]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91DC737BE98 for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 10:06:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from behanna@zbzoom.net) Received: from armani.yourfit.com (armani.yourfit.com [192.168.1.120]) by mail.yourfit.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA10896 for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 13:06:11 -0400 Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2000 13:06:11 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time) From: Chris BeHanna Reply-To: Chris BeHanna To: FreeBSD-Stable Subject: Re: Recent crypto changes In-Reply-To: <20000801174029.A98033@bizboz.mistral.co.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 1 Aug 2000, Dominic Mitchell wrote: > On Tue, Aug 01, 2000 at 12:33:09PM -0400, Chris BeHanna wrote: > > On Tue, 1 Aug 2000, Holtor wrote: > > > Hi again - I recently did a fresh install of freebsd 4.0 and > > > upgraded it to the latest 4.1 right away. I started up the sshd > > > thats built in (/usr/sbin/sshd) and it worked right from there. If > > > memory serves me correctly I would normally have to install rsaref > > > from ports wouldn't I? > > > > Not if you're using DSA... > > Does ssh-agent support DSA yet? I looked, but I couldn't quite get it > to work... I didn't use ssh-agent, but sshd and ssh-keygen certainly do, as does just plain old ssh. -- Chris BeHanna Software Engineer (at yourfit.com) behanna@zbzoom.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Aug 1 10:40:26 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.rdc1.ct.home.com (ha1.rdc1.ct.home.com [24.2.0.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6C3737C051 for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 10:40:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tsikora@powerusersbbs.com) Received: from powerusersbbs.com ([24.2.168.186]) by mail.rdc1.ct.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with ESMTP id <20000801174019.NSJG9101.mail.rdc1.ct.home.com@powerusersbbs.com> for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 10:40:19 -0700 Message-ID: <39870B37.7E6AABE@powerusersbbs.com> Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2000 13:39:03 -0400 From: Ted Sikora Organization: Jtl Development Group X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.74 [en] (X11; U; SunOS 5.8 i86pc) X-Accept-Language: en-US, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "stable@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: PPPoE References: <200007310105.e6V15CT21809@dna.tsolab.org> <3984E9BC.A27E0C8E@home.com> <3984F08B.B5574BE4@home.com> <39857FF3.32663673@mail.zbzoom.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Chris BeHanna wrote: > Ted Sikora wrote: > > > Recently my cable service > > reduced the bandwidth. Now upstreams average 16k and downstream 400k. > > There has to be something better. Several users on my node (all > > BSD/Linux users) have been enjoying our own little private network with > > speeds up to 900k both ways.(600k average) Now it's terrible. They now > > limited the internal network to 33k between users. Compared to before > > it's like putting us on dialups. > > When you signed on, didn't you agree to pay per month for a given > service level? If I understand you correctly, @home has now changed the terms > of the agreement. > > We need competition for cable service in a big, big way. :-( Big time. For instance I had a line problem. -.39 line strength. Anything below -.32 should not work. But mine(Lan City modem) kept working. They refused to send a linetech because it was still working. > > > I don't have the option for DSL where I live (yet), and my cable "ISP" (I > have to put that in quotes, because they couldn't find their bungholes with > both hands and a roadmap) guarantees 1500K down and 500K up for what I'm > paying, BUT they block all the ports below 1024. :-( That really sucks. That I couldn't live with. I guess I better count my blessings. > > > I can hack around that, given a friendly site outside their firewall who's > willing to divert packets for me, but it's still a PITA. > > Regards, > Chris BeHanna > behanna@zbzoom.net > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- Ted Sikora Jtl Development Group tsikora@powerusersbbs.com Linux the choice of a GNU generation............ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Aug 1 12:14:57 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp.nwlink.com (smtp.nwlink.com [209.20.130.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C953E37B922 for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 12:14:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jcwells@nwlink.com) Received: from utah (jcwells@utah.nwlink.com [209.20.130.41]) by smtp.nwlink.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) with SMTP id MAA16174; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 12:14:52 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2000 12:27:03 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jason C. Wells" X-Sender: jcwells@utah To: Mark Thornton Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Problem installing... In-Reply-To: <00be01bffbd7$b0c368c0$04d05a3f@corridor.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 1 Aug 2000, Mark Thornton wrote: > I am trying to install the the stable version of the OS and I continue to > get the message "can't CD to '4.0-STABLE'... on this server". > > It is obvious that I don't get it, and the docs don't cover how to install > release vs. stable vs. current. I downloaded the floppies from the The docs cover how to install a release. http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/install.html Stable and current are advanced topics. You don't install them in any way resembling the installation of a released version. http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/cutting-edge.html > 4.0-STABLE version on releng4.freebsd.org, what else was I supposed to do? > Where are the concise docs on this procedure? Somehow you found out about stable and current. Could you please tell me where you found out about them? It seems folks have been trying to _install_ stable and current as if they were releases. I am wondering if something on the website is misleading or if people are just guessing. Thank you, Jason C. Wells To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Aug 1 12:55:23 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mike.dhis.org (hiper1-d62.stk.cwnet.com [209.142.56.62]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6940437B609; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 12:55:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mmuir@es.co.nz) Received: from es.co.nz (ogre.lan [192.168.100.1]) by mike.dhis.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 709E9D7; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 12:55:16 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <39872B23.98810BAC@es.co.nz> Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2000 12:55:15 -0700 From: Mike Muir Reply-To: mmuir@es.co.nz X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.1-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kevin Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: pcm0: pci error References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Kevin wrote: > > i have a sound blaster live value and when i compiled in 'device pcm' in the > kernel i get this error message about a thousand times (or whenver i play > sound) > > pcm0: pci error > > here is my dmesg, keep in mind that i can still actually play sound, but > this message is very annoying. Many others -- including myself -- are experiencing the same problem.. Are you hearing the crackling also? I'm not aware of any fix for this though. -mike To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Aug 1 13: 4:16 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from fedde.littleton.co.us (fedde.littleton.co.us [216.17.174.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A16A337B609 for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 13:04:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cfedde@fedde.littleton.co.us) Received: from fedde.littleton.co.us (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fedde.littleton.co.us (8.11.0/8.11.0.Beta3) with ESMTP id e71K3wd41491; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 14:03:58 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <200008012003.e71K3wd41491@fedde.littleton.co.us> To: Dominic Mitchell Cc: Holtor , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: sendmail 8.11.0 In-Reply-To: <20000801155735.B97403@bizboz.mistral.co.uk> From: Chris Fedde Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2000 14:03:57 -0600 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 1 Aug 2000 15:57:35 +0100 Dominic Mitchell wrote: +------------------ | On Tue, Aug 01, 2000 at 08:38:56AM -0600, Chris Fedde wrote: | > I find | > the whole mailwrapper thing bizarre in the extreem. It is similar | > to the whole /usr/local/etc/rc.d scheme where we are adding a | > layer of indirection when there is no need for one. | | On the contrary - I find it a complete godsend. It makes replacing the | standard sendmail with a port/package and absolute breeze. It's far | nicer than having each port hack around in /usr/sbin for no good reason. | | -Dom +------------------ My point is that there is a perfectly good mechinism in existance to allow switching between MTA. The rc.conf mechinism works well and is consistant for all other components of the system. In this one case we add a layer of indirection below rc.conf. Why not simply use something like mta_enable="YES" mta=/usr/sbin/sendmail or mta_ena mta=/usr/sbin/qmail and the appropriate frag in /etc/rc to work with this I find the whole mailwrapper thing bizarre in the extreem ;-) chris -- Chris Fedde 303 773 9134 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Aug 1 13:10:39 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from horsey.gshapiro.net (horsey.gshapiro.net [209.220.147.178]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37DA437B862 for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 13:10:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gshapiro@gshapiro.net) Received: (from gshapiro@localhost) by horsey.gshapiro.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) id e71KAXp31549; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 13:10:33 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14727.11961.866040.450990@horsey.gshapiro.net> Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2000 13:10:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Gregory Neil Shapiro To: Holtor Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: sendmail 8.11.0 In-Reply-To: <20000801141032.2153.qmail@web121.yahoomail.com> References: <20000801141032.2153.qmail@web121.yahoomail.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.2 (beta35) "Nike" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG holtor> Hi all - I have been waiting for the base sendmail in holtor> freebsd, now 8.9.3 to be updated to the latest one holtor> which is 8.11.0. Anyone have any appox. dates for holtor> this? I'll be doing this as soon as I return from IETF. I didn't wanto to do my first commit to FreeBSD while I was away. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Aug 1 14: 3:18 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C48E37B809 for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 14:03:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA60811; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 15:03:12 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id PAA86077; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 15:02:55 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <200008012102.PAA86077@harmony.village.org> To: "Corey G." Subject: Re: HEADS UP! Always use the 'make buildkernel' target to make yer kernels Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 31 Jul 2000 03:00:44 CDT." <20000731030044.A17511@flashcom.net> References: <20000731030044.A17511@flashcom.net> <4.3.2.20000709232757.00b1e6a0@207.227.119.2> Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2000 15:02:55 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <20000731030044.A17511@flashcom.net> "Corey G." writes: : How come these exact procedures are not included in /usr/src/UPDATING : after upgrading to 4.1? For example, the only mention of "mergemaster" : is when upgrading from 3.x to 4.0 stable. I do not see any mention of : the exact procedures below in my newly created /usr/src/UPDATING file : after a cvsup to 4.1. Because I'm lazy and no body has sent me anything to put there. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Aug 1 14:16:32 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 758) id D45B337BDBC; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 14:16:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D21C02E8195; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 14:16:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@hub.freebsd.org) Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2000 14:16:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Kris Kennaway To: Christoph Sold Cc: "Corey G." , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HEADS UP! Always use the 'make buildkernel' target to make yer kernels In-Reply-To: <39854C60.1E10B224@i-clue.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 31 Jul 2000, Christoph Sold wrote: > Read up in the archives. There was a heated discussion about two weeks > ago. In short: someone warned, but the current users thought the > warning in UDATING to be enough. Since too many people have been > bitten by this, they erred. Submit something better instead of complaining :-P Kris -- In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. -- Charles Forsythe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Aug 1 14:27:39 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from xocah.dhs.org (s210-181-113-213.thrunet.ne.kr [210.181.113.213]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25F9C37BDD3 for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 14:27:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tsoi@xocah.dhs.org) Received: (from tsoi@localhost) by xocah.dhs.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id GAA46960; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 06:27:24 +0900 (KST) (envelope-from tsoi) Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 06:27:24 +0900 From: "H . S . YOON" To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Cc: Chan Tur Wei Subject: Re: succeed. -_-;; Message-ID: <20000802062724.A46893@xocah.dhs.org> Reply-To: "H . S . YOON" References: <75ADD7496F0BD211ADC000104B8846CF012CEEA3@rerun.lucentctc.com> <75ADD7496F0BD211ADC000104B8846CF012CEEA3@rerun.lucentctc.com> <20000801210429.A43796@xocah.dhs.org> <4.3.1.2.20000801232908.00ae46f0@zaapth> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.4i In-Reply-To: <4.3.1.2.20000801232908.00ae46f0@zaapth>; from twchan@singnet.com.sg on Tue, Aug 01, 2000 at 11:34:53PM +0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Sorry, i forgot that steps you mentioned to write here, but actually i did. Thanks for indication. Thus spake Chan Tur Wei (twchan@singnet.com.sg) ::::: : Hi, : : Like you, I also initially skipped the following marked lines from /usr/src/UPDATING: : : make buildkernel KERNEL= : make installkernel KERNEL= : # Verify that the new kernel works, it will be installed as : # /YOUR_KERNEL_HERE : chflags noschg /kernel <--- : chflags noschg /YOUR_KERNEL_HERE <--- : mv /kernel /kernel.old <--- : mv /YOUR_KERNEL_HERE /kernel <--- : chflags schg /kernel <--- : : "make installkernel" simply copies the built kernel into /MYKERNEL, and so those marked lines above are needed to (a) zap the old kernel away (actually, just renamed as /kernel.old) and then (b) copy the new kernel in. : : If you didn't do those steps, you'll simply be running the OLD kernel which in most cases will be the GENERIC or worse yet, your old 3.x kernel. : : : Hope this helps, : : -T.W.Chan- : : At 09:04 PM 8/1/00 +0900, H . S . YOON wrote: : >I succeeded! : > : >My step is like this.. : > : >1. CVSuped to RELENG_4 && 'CFLAGS= -O -pipe' 'USA_RESIDENT=NO' : >in /etc/make.conf ( i'm not an American ) : > : >2. cd /usr/src ; make buildworld : > : >3. cd /usr/src/sys/i386/conf ; cp GENERIC MYKERNEL && configure MYKERNEL ; : > cd /usr/src ; make buildkernel KERNEL=MYKERNEL ; : > make installkernel KERNEL=MYKERNEL : > : >4. cd /usr/src/sys/modules ; make install --> failed but i skipped this step : > : >5. cd /usr/src/sbin/mknod ; make install ; make install : > : >6. cp /usr/src/etc/MAKEDEV /dev ; sh MAKEDEV all ; ( MAKEDEV your own slice. see your own /etc/fstab ) ; change 'wd' to 'ad' in /etc/fstab : > : >7. reboot to single user ( boot -s ) ; : > mount your partition with rw ( ex. /, /usr, /var, /home, etc. ) : > : >8. cd /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/texinfo/install-info ; make install : > : >9. cd /usr/src ; make installworld : >( if happen any ld-elf.so warning, do 'ldconfig -R /usr/obj/usr/src/lib/libc' : >and 'make installworld' again. ) : > : >10. mergemaster : > : >11. reboot( to nomal booting ) : > : > : >This is the steps are described in /usr/src/UPDAING. -_-; : >Thanx for all who have given his hands to me. : > : >Best regards, : >Tsoi. : > : > : >Thus spake Cambria, Mike (mcambria@lucent.com) ::::: : > : >: I agree. I just updated 2 machines last night. A Pentium from 3.5-Stable : >: and a PIII from 3.4-Stable. I had the make installworld problem on both, : >: but UPDATING expected the exact problem I had and suggested using ldconfig, : >: then redoing installworld. : >: : >: The only other snag I hit (on both systems) was on the "make install" step : >: for /usr/src/sys/modules. I hit a problem many others had on the -stable : >: mailing list. I haven't seen an "official" answer on the list yet. What I : >: did was just skipped this step until I was done with everything else. Then : >: running 4.1-Stable in multiuser mode, I simply went into : >: /usr/src/sys/modules, did make, then make install. : >: : >: MikeC : >: : >: Michael C. Cambria AVAYA Communication : >: Formerly Lucent Technologies Enterprise : >: Networks Group : >: Voice: (978) 287 - 2807 300 Baker Avenue : >: Fax: (978) 287 - 2810 Concord, Massachusetts 01742 : >: Internet: mcambria@avaya.com : > : >-- : >no signature : > : > : >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org : >with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message : : : : To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org : with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- name is h. s. yoon icq uin is #29031196 o__ mailto:tsoi@xocah.dhs.org _,>/' http://xocah.dhs.org/~tsoi (_) \(_) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Aug 1 14:37:54 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from alpha.pit.adelphia.net (alpha.pit.adelphia.net [24.48.44.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25AF437BE43; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 14:37:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nturki@adelphia.net) Received: from b3s8t6 (pa-indiana1b-27.pit.adelphia.net [24.50.155.27]) by alpha.pit.adelphia.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) with SMTP id RAA24352; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 17:37:45 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <003001bffc01$1838b680$1b9b3218@pit.adelphia.net> From: "Nader Turki" To: Cc: Subject: ipv6 Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2000 17:40:21 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG hi there, I just installed FreeBSD 4.1-RELEASE. Well, I got this new thing that's called IPv6 older versions of FreeBSD never asked me that before. Anyway I said YES and hope that's not gonna casue me any trouble. 'cause i have no idea what ipv6 is. can someone tell me if it's gonna cause me any problem? 'cause i'm shipping my box to NY tomorrow morning. I have the following lines in /etc/rc.conf ipv6-enable="YES" usbd_enable="YES" I've never seen them and just wanted to make sure that they won't cause any trouble. Thanks, Nader To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Aug 1 15:14:17 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from wilsonandhorton.co.nz (fw2.wilsonandhorton.co.nz [203.99.66.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7F3B37BE52; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 15:14:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jonc@itouch.co.nz) Received: (from jonc@localhost) by wilsonandhorton.co.nz (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA23445; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 10:11:52 +1200 (NZST) (envelope-from jonc) Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 10:11:52 +1200 From: Jonathan Chen To: Nader Turki Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ipv6 Message-ID: <20000802101152.A23418@jonc.ntdns.wilsonandhorton.co.n> References: <003001bffc01$1838b680$1b9b3218@pit.adelphia.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <003001bffc01$1838b680$1b9b3218@pit.adelphia.net>; from nturki@adelphia.net on Tue, Aug 01, 2000 at 05:40:21PM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Aug 01, 2000 at 05:40:21PM -0400, Nader Turki wrote: [...] > ipv6-enable="YES" > usbd_enable="YES" > > I've never seen them and just wanted to make sure that they won't cause any > trouble. If you're not going to use it, the best thing to do is to disable it. -- Jonathan Chen ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Don't worry about avoiding temptation, as you grow older, it starts avoiding you. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Aug 1 15:28:47 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from bmah-freebsd-0.cisco.com (bmah-freebsd-0.cisco.com [171.70.84.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84D9C37BB32; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 15:28:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bmah@cisco.com) Received: (from bmah@localhost) by bmah-freebsd-0.cisco.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) id e71MPb416394; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 15:25:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bmah) Message-Id: <200008012225.e71MPb416394@bmah-freebsd-0.cisco.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.2 06/23/2000 with nmh-1.0.4 To: "Nader Turki" Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ipv6 In-Reply-To: <003001bffc01$1838b680$1b9b3218@pit.adelphia.net> References: <003001bffc01$1838b680$1b9b3218@pit.adelphia.net> Comments: In-reply-to "Nader Turki" message dated "Tue, 01 Aug 2000 17:40:21 -0400." From: bmah@cisco.com (Bruce A. Mah) Reply-To: bmah@cisco.com X-Face: g~c`.{#4q0"(V*b#g[i~rXgm*w;:nMfz%_RZLma)UgGN&=j`5vXoU^@n5v4:OO)c["!w)nD/!!~e4Sj7LiT'6*wZ83454H""lb{CC%T37O!!'S$S&D}sem7I[A 2V%N&+ X-Image-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/Images/bmah-cisco-small.gif X-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="==_Exmh_1117270125P"; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2000 15:25:37 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --==_Exmh_1117270125P Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii If memory serves me right, "Nader Turki" wrote: > I just installed FreeBSD 4.1-RELEASE. Well, I got this new thing that's > called IPv6 older versions of FreeBSD never asked me that before. Anyway I > said YES and hope that's not gonna casue me any trouble. 'cause i have no > idea what ipv6 is. can someone tell me if it's gonna cause me any problem? > 'cause i'm shipping my box to NY tomorrow morning. IPv6 is the next version of the Internet Protocol (otherwise known as IP, or IPv4). If you don't know what it is, you probably aren't going to be using it for anything, so I'd suggest turning off the applicable line in /etc/rc.conf. Is is going to cause you any problems if you leave it on? Probably not, but why have a feature turned on that you won't (in all likelihood) be needing? Especially since you're shipping it off to a remote location (presuming that New York is not where you are). > I have the following lines in /etc/rc.conf > > ipv6-enable="YES" > usbd_enable="YES" I wasn't sure if you were asking about this or not, but for more information on usbd, "man usbd". It's a part of the suppport for the Universal Serial Bus. Bruce. --==_Exmh_1117270125P Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGPfreeware 5.0i for non-commercial use MessageID: yg9ZxYiYuNlH/c9Z5V0mRxMdhj/PCW6Y iQA/AwUBOYdOYdjKMXFboFLDEQKTEQCgxej6nhAMPsuE9fdoTP6CvCazwSEAoPNS g6UDLimFsL3ohpIhR3naUAH8 =gVlK -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --==_Exmh_1117270125P-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Aug 1 19:26:16 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ducky.nz.freebsd.org (chilled.unixathome.org [203.79.82.27]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B61C337BF7C for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 19:26:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dan@langille.org) Received: from localhost (dan@localhost) by ducky.nz.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA96719 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 14:26:07 +1200 (NZST) Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 14:26:05 +1200 (NZST) From: Dan Langille X-Sender: dan@ducky.nz.freebsd.org To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: kernel config needs a blank line at EOF Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I just encountered a user who was getting an error when trying to compile a new kernel. This as during the config step. The error was: config: line 238: syntax error Line 238 was: device pcm # SB16 PCI which was the last line in the file. I then suggested then they add a CRLF to the end of the file (so that the last line was an empy line). config then ran successfully. Is this a known problem? If so, I'll add a note to the handbook so newbies don't get caught out like that. It caused this person (and no doubt others) much annoyance and trouble. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Aug 1 19:27: 1 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from adsl-151-197-206-43.bellatlantic.net (adsl-151-197-206-43.bellatlantic.net [151.197.206.43]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1260037BF50; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 19:26:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bleez@bellatlantic.net) Received: from localhost (root@localhost) by adsl-151-197-206-43.bellatlantic.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA04603; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 22:26:17 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bleez@bellatlantic.net) Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2000 22:26:16 -0400 (EDT) From: Bryan Liesner X-Sender: root@adsl-151-197-206-43.bellatlantic.net To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Cc: wpaul@freebsd.org Subject: if_dc.c commit Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Todays commit to sys/pci/if_dc.c produces this error: cc -c -O -pipe -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -fformat-extensions -ansi -nostdinc -I- -I. -I../.. -I../../../include -D_KERNEL -include opt_global.h -elf -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 ../../pci/if_dc.c ../../pci/if_dc.c: In function `dc_setcfg': ../../pci/if_dc.c:1224: `DC_WDOG_CTLWREN' undeclared (first use in this function) ../../pci/if_dc.c:1224: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once ../../pci/if_dc.c:1224: for each function it appears in.) *** Error code 1 ========================================================== = Bryan D. Liesner LeezSoft Communications, Inc. = = A subsidiary of LeezSoft Inc. = = bleez@bellatlantic.net Home of the Gipper = ========================================================== To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Aug 1 19:39:26 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.rz.uni-ulm.de (sirius-ether.rz.uni-ulm.de [134.60.1.36]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C42F837BF6A for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 19:39:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from siegbert.baude@gmx.de) Received: from gmx.de (lilith.wohnheim.uni-ulm.de [134.60.106.64]) by mail.rz.uni-ulm.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA28923; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 04:39:09 +0200 (MEST) Message-ID: <398789CD.2DADAB33@gmx.de> Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 04:39:09 +0200 From: Siegbert Baude X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 4.1-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: de, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Warner Losh Cc: "Corey G." , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Suggestion for change of /usr/src/UPDATING (was: Re: HEADS UP! Always use the 'make buildkernel' target to make yer kernels) References: <20000731030044.A17511@flashcom.net> <4.3.2.20000709232757.00b1e6a0@207.227.119.2> <200008012102.PAA86077@harmony.village.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello Warner, Warner Losh wrote: > > In message <20000731030044.A17511@flashcom.net> "Corey G." writes: > : How come these exact procedures are not included in /usr/src/UPDATING > : after upgrading to 4.1? For example, the only mention of "mergemaster" > : is when upgrading from 3.x to 4.0 stable. I do not see any mention of > : the exact procedures below in my newly created /usr/src/UPDATING file > : after a cvsup to 4.1. > > Because I'm lazy and no body has sent me anything to put there. So I try to jump in :-) What about the following in /usr/src/UPDATING : ---Begin Suggestion--- COMMON ITEMS: To build a kernel ----------------- cd /usr/src # If you have not already done so, please buildworld here # You will also want to update your kernel config file. # For IBM-PC compatible systems is "i386": cd /usr/src/sys//conf # Usually people tend to start with GENERIC from 4.0 and hack from there. cp GENERIC YOUR_KERNEL_HERE # Using your favourite editor: Throw out things of , # you don't need and merge in the appropriate lines from LINT. cd /usr/src make buildkernel KERNEL=YOUR_KERNEL_HERE make installkernel KERNEL=YOUR_KERNEL_HERE # Verify that the new kernel works, it will be installed as # /YOUR_KERNEL_HERE chflags noschg /kernel chflags noschg /YOUR_KERNEL_HERE mv /kernel /kernel.old mv /YOUR_KERNEL_HERE /kernel chflags schg /kernel # In order to make the new kernel work, you have to reboot. # Don't do this now, if you're in the middle of a buildworld/installworld # after upgrading your system via CVS. See below for CVS. reboot To rebuild disk /dev entries ---------------------------- [snip] Except when it doesn't work :-) To update your system via CVS (tracking the STABLE-branch) ---------------------------------------------------------- # Follow the instructions on http://www.freebsd.org/support.html#cvs # or in /usr/share/doc/handbook/synching.html # to download the newest files via CVS cd /usr/src make buildworld # Follow directions to build/install a kernel # from above, but DON'T REBOOT NOW shutdown now cd /usr/src make installworld mergemaster reboot ---End Suggestion And I think there is one line in "To update from 3.x to 4.0 stable", which isn't correct (don't know exactly, as I never did this). Watch the line marked with --> <-- : To update from 3.x to 4.0 stable -------------------------------- [3] cd /usr/src [2] make buildworld cd /usr/src/sys/modules make install cd /usr/src/sbin/mknod make install [1] --> reboot <-- cd /usr/src cd gnu/usr.bin/texinfo/install-info make install cd ../../../.. make installworld [5] mergemaster [4] reboot This line should be "shutdown now", isn't it? Any further suggestions to make life of Warner easier? Ciao Siegbert To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Aug 1 20:10: 7 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from straynet.com (voyager.straynet.com [208.185.24.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E2C8837BF6A for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 20:10:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from greg@straynet.com) Received: (qmail 64198 invoked by uid 1013); 2 Aug 2000 03:10:35 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 2 Aug 2000 03:10:35 -0000 Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2000 23:10:35 -0400 (EDT) From: Greg Prosser X-Sender: xyst@voyager.straynet.com Reply-To: Greg Prosser To: Bryan Liesner Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, wpaul@freebsd.org Subject: Re: if_dc.c commit In-Reply-To: Message-ID: X-Sysadmin-Nolife: True X-BOFH: Yes MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG on Tue, 1 Aug 2000, Bryan Liesner babbled .. ;; ;; Todays commit to sys/pci/if_dc.c produces this error: ;; ;; ;; ;; cc -c -O -pipe -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes ;; -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -fformat-extensions ;; -ansi -nostdinc -I- -I. -I../.. -I../../../include -D_KERNEL ;; -include opt_global.h -elf -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 ../../pci/if_dc.c ;; ../../pci/if_dc.c: In function `dc_setcfg': ;; ../../pci/if_dc.c:1224: `DC_WDOG_CTLWREN' undeclared ;; (first use in this function) ;; ../../pci/if_dc.c:1224: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once ;; ../../pci/if_dc.c:1224: for each function it appears in.) ;; *** Error code 1 *nods slowly* Just installed 4.1-REL, and just cvsup'd to -stable, I figured it was a kernel program on my part, I guess not. This error appears to be related to the 'dc' interface, from what I can tell .. (the other if_*.c files I see compiled have to do with corresponding ethernet cards .. I could be wrong, in fact I bet I am, considering it's compiled even if 'dc' is not in my config file. My make for the kernel dies on the following.. Could someone send me a personal message when this is resolved? ===> dc cc -O -pipe -D_KERNEL -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -fformat-extensions -ansi -DKLD_MODULE -nostdinc -I- -I. -I@ -I@/../include -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 -c /usr/src/sys/modules/dc/../../pci/if_dc.c /usr/src/sys/modules/dc/../../pci/if_dc.c: In function `dc_setcfg': /usr/src/sys/modules/dc/../../pci/if_dc.c:1224: `DC_WDOG_CTLWREN' undeclared (first use in this function) /usr/src/sys/modules/dc/../../pci/if_dc.c:1224: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once /usr/src/sys/modules/dc/../../pci/if_dc.c:1224: for each function it appears in.) *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/sys/modules/dc. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/sys/modules. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/sys/compile/AHSATAN. home# /gp -- .... .. . ... . . . . . g r e g @ s t r a y n e t . c o m .-----.----.-----.-----. senior administrator, straynet online | _ | _| -__| _ | head network administrator, wen dot net |___ |__| |_____|___ | staff consultant, micro web company |_____| |_____| icq: 10405504 / aol im: xysters To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Aug 1 20:32:50 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from sabre.velocet.net (sabre.velocet.net [198.96.118.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A37C37BF9B for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 20:32:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dgilbert@office.tor.velocet.net) Received: from office.tor.velocet.net (trooper.velocet.net [216.126.82.226]) by sabre.velocet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F9F8137F17 for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 23:32:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from dgilbert@localhost) by office.tor.velocet.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA90625; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 23:32:36 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from dgilbert) From: David Gilbert MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14727.38484.478097.382875@trooper.velocet.net> Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2000 23:32:36 -0400 (EDT) To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Vinum corruption? X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I got the following messages from a 4.0-RC machine today while playing with find on a vinum (RAID-5) partition with about 10 copies of the results of the "make release" tree: Aug 2 02:02:21 news /kernel: Data modified on freelist: word 0 of object 0xc2a01000 size 4096 previous type devbuf (0x0 != 0xdeadc0de) Aug 2 02:02:21 news /kernel: Data modified on freelist: word 0 of object 0xc2a01000 size 4096 previous type devbuf (0x0 != 0xdeadc0de) Aug 2 02:03:38 news /kernel: Data modified on freelist: word 9 of object 0xc315a000 size 8192 previous type devbuf (0x0 != 0xdeadc0de) Aug 2 02:03:38 news /kernel: Data modified on freelist: word 9 of object 0xc315a000 size 8192 previous type devbuf (0x0 != 0xdeadc0de) ... and that doesn't sound very good. Soft updates is on, in this case. One thing I've noticed is that I often have to "rebuildparity" on the system. I had a busy tar process running when I halted the system last ... and it's come up with a disk that fails vinum checkparity. Dave. -- ============================================================================ |David Gilbert, Velocet Communications. | Two things can only be | |Mail: dgilbert@velocet.net | equal if and only if they | |http://www.velocet.net/~dgilbert | are precisely opposite. | =========================================================GLO================ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Aug 1 20:33:26 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from atlas.bit.net.au (atlas.bit.net.au [203.18.94.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EE5737BFD4; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 20:33:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pdh@atlas.bit.net.au) Received: (from pdh@localhost) by atlas.bit.net.au (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) id NAA07259; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 13:32:50 +1000 Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 13:32:50 +1000 From: Phil Homewood To: Greg Prosser Cc: Bryan Liesner , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, wpaul@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: if_dc.c commit Message-ID: <20000802133250.A5115@atlas.bit.net.au> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: ; from greg@straynet.com on Tue, Aug 01, 2000 at 11:10:35PM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Greg Prosser wrote: > on Tue, 1 Aug 2000, Bryan Liesner babbled .. > ;; Todays commit to sys/pci/if_dc.c produces this error: > ;; ../../pci/if_dc.c:1224: `DC_WDOG_CTLWREN' undeclared > > *nods slowly* > > Just installed 4.1-REL, and just cvsup'd to -stable, I figured it was a > kernel program on my part, I guess not. FWIW, same breakage here, cvsupped a few minutes ago from cvsup3.au. Oddly, I do not have a "device dc" line in my kernel conf. -- Phil Homewood pdh@asiaonline.net Senior Technician +61 7 3620 1930 Asia Online (Brisbane) http://www.asiaonline.net/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Aug 1 20:57:51 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from wantadilla.lemis.com (wantadilla.lemis.com [192.109.197.80]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B0FC37B546 for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 20:57:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@wantadilla.lemis.com) Received: (from grog@localhost) by wantadilla.lemis.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA34890; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 13:27:33 +0930 (CST) (envelope-from grog) Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 13:27:33 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: David Gilbert Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Vinum corruption? Message-ID: <20000802132733.I36094@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <14727.38484.478097.382875@trooper.velocet.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.4i In-Reply-To: <14727.38484.478097.382875@trooper.velocet.net>; from dgilbert@velocet.ca on Tue, Aug 01, 2000 at 11:32:36PM -0400 Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B 7B C3 8C 61 CD 54 AF 13 24 52 F8 6D A4 95 EF Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG [Format recovered--see http://www.lemis.com/email/email-format.html] Please don't wrap log messages. On Tuesday, 1 August 2000 at 23:32:36 -0400, David Gilbert wrote: > I got the following messages from a 4.0-RC machine today while playing > with find on a vinum (RAID-5) partition with about 10 copies of the > results of the "make release" tree: > > Aug 2 02:02:21 news /kernel: Data modified on freelist: word 0 of object 0xc2a01000 size 4096 previous type devbuf (0x0 != 0xdeadc0de) > Aug 2 02:02:21 news /kernel: Data modified on freelist: word 0 of object 0xc2a01000 size 4096 previous type devbuf (0x0 != 0xdeadc0de) > Aug 2 02:03:38 news /kernel: Data modified on freelist: word 9 of object 0xc315a000 size 8192 previous type devbuf (0x0 != 0xdeadc0de) > Aug 2 02:03:38 news /kernel: Data modified on freelist: word 9 of object 0xc315a000 size 8192 previous type devbuf (0x0 != 0xdeadc0de) > > ... and that doesn't sound very good. No, indeed. > Soft updates is on, in this case. There's nothing in the message which shows where this problem is occurring. We'd really need a dump. > One thing I've noticed is that I often have to "rebuildparity" on > the system. I had a busy tar process running when I halted the > system last ... and it's come up with a disk that fails vinum > checkparity. Yes, there was a problem there. Upgrade to 4.1. Greg -- When replying to this message, please take care not to mutilate the original text. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/email.html Finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Aug 1 21:11: 6 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ducky.nz.freebsd.org (chilled.unixathome.org [203.79.82.27]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E5C437B546 for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 21:11:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dan@langille.org) Received: from wocker (wocker.int.nz.freebsd.org [192.168.0.99]) by nyx.rhein-main.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA93741; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 08:02:30 +1200 (NZST) From: "Dan Langille" Organization: langille.org To: Dag-Erling Smorgrav , andrew@ugh.net.au, Mike Tancsa Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 08:02:28 +1200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: is fetch broken? Reply-To: dan@langille.org Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Message-ID: <3987D594.17338.3F2ED357@localhost> References: "Dan Langille"'s message of "Sun, 30 Jul 2000 22:17:15 +1200" In-reply-to: X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 1 Aug 2000, at 13:04, Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote: > Please provide revision numbers or checkout dates for working / > non-working versions. My previous message was for non-working version. If I take the fetch binary from my 4.0-stable box and put it on my 4.1-stable box, it works. Here's what's on my 4.0-stable box: * $FreeBSD: src/lib/libfetch/fetch.c,v 1.10.2.4 2000/07/21 11:20:00 des Exp $ -- Dan Langille [I'm looking for more work] The FreeBSD Diary - http://www.freebsddiary.org/ FreshPorts - http://freshports.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Aug 1 21:11: 8 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 758) id 2E3E137BFDE; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 21:11:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BE122E8196; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 21:11:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@hub.freebsd.org) Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2000 21:11:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Kris Kennaway To: Phil Homewood Cc: Greg Prosser , Bryan Liesner , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, wpaul@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: if_dc.c commit In-Reply-To: <20000802133250.A5115@atlas.bit.net.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 2 Aug 2000, Phil Homewood wrote: > Greg Prosser wrote: > > on Tue, 1 Aug 2000, Bryan Liesner babbled .. > > ;; Todays commit to sys/pci/if_dc.c produces this error: > > ;; ../../pci/if_dc.c:1224: `DC_WDOG_CTLWREN' undeclared > > > > *nods slowly* > > > > Just installed 4.1-REL, and just cvsup'd to -stable, I figured it was a > > kernel program on my part, I guess not. > > FWIW, same breakage here, cvsupped a few minutes ago from cvsup3.au. > Oddly, I do not have a "device dc" line in my kernel conf. Modules are built regardless of the contents of your kernel config file..thats kind of the whole point in fact, so you can add support for a new device without having to recompile :-) Kris -- In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. -- Charles Forsythe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Aug 1 21:11:15 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ducky.nz.freebsd.org (chilled.unixathome.org [203.79.82.27]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D558A37C03E for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 21:11:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dan@langille.org) Received: from wocker (wocker.int.nz.freebsd.org [192.168.0.99]) by nyx.rhein-main.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA83689 for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2000 23:18:30 +1200 (NZST) From: "Dan Langille" Organization: langille.org To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 23:18:26 +1200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: NOBIND. How about NOIPF? Reply-To: dan@langille.org Message-ID: <39860942.5539.38281011@localhost> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I want to create a NOIPF option for make.conf similar in nature for NOBIND. Can someone point me as to where to look for the use of the NOBIND option? I tried this, then figured I should ask: [root@ducky:/usr/src] # grep NOBIND Makefile [root@ducky:/usr/src] # cheers -- Dan Langille [I'm looking for more work] The FreeBSD Diary - http://www.freebsddiary.org/ FreshPorts - http://freshports.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Aug 1 21:11:16 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ducky.nz.freebsd.org (chilled.unixathome.org [203.79.82.27]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A44F37B709 for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 21:11:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dan@langille.org) Received: from wocker (wocker.int.nz.freebsd.org [192.168.0.99]) by nyx.rhein-main.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA93583; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 07:34:48 +1200 (NZST) From: "Dan Langille" Organization: langille.org To: Dag-Erling Smorgrav , andrew@ugh.net.au, Mike Tancsa , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 07:34:46 +1200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: is fetch broken? Reply-To: dan@langille.org Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Message-ID: <3987CF16.25074.3F15787C@localhost> References: "Dan Langille"'s message of "Sun, 30 Jul 2000 22:17:15 +1200" In-reply-to: X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Thanks des, hope this helps. On 1 Aug 2000, at 13:04, Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote: > Please provide revision numbers or checkout dates for working / > non-working versions. * $FreeBSD: src/lib/libfetch/fetch.c,v 1.10.2.4 2000/07/21 11:20:00 des Exp $ > If at all possible, rebuild libfetch with DEBUG defined (see > instructions below) and mail me the output of failed transfers. > > # cd /usr/src/lib/libfetch && \ > make cleandir && \ > make obj && \ > make depend && \ > make -DDEBUG && \ > make install # fetch http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/ports/x11-wm/icewm- i18n/pkg/DESCR?rev=1.2 scheme: [http] user: [] password: [] host: [www.FreeBSD.org] port: [0] document: [/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/ports/x11-wm/icewm- i18n/pkg/DESCR?rev=1.2] ---> www.FreeBSD.org:80 >>> GET /cgi/cvsweb.cgi/ports/x11-wm/icewm- i18n/pkg/DESCR?rev=1.2 HTTP/1.1 >>> Host: www.FreeBSD.org >>> User-Agent: fetch libfetch/2.0 >>> Connection: close >>> <<< HTTP/1.0 200 OK <<< Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2000 19:34:11 GMT <<< Server: Apache/1.3.x (Unix) <<< Xonnection: close <<< Content-Type: text/plain <<< offset: 0, length: -1, size: -1, clength: -1 Receiving DESCR?rev=1.2 (4294967295 bytes): 0% 258 bytes transferred in 0.0 seconds (122.84 kBps) fetch: DESCR?rev=1.2 appears to be truncated: 258/4294967295 bytes -- Dan Langille [I'm looking for more work] The FreeBSD Diary - http://www.freebsddiary.org/ FreshPorts - http://freshports.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Aug 1 21:17:47 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mailhost01.reflexnet.net (mailhost01.reflexnet.net [64.6.192.82]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 973F837BFDE for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 21:17:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cjc@184.215.6.64.reflexcom.com) Received: from 184.215.6.64.reflexcom.com ([64.6.215.184]) by mailhost01.reflexnet.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.197.19); Tue, 1 Aug 2000 21:15:48 -0700 Received: (from cjc@localhost) by 184.215.6.64.reflexcom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA51061; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 21:16:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cjc) Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2000 21:16:46 -0700 From: "Crist J . Clark" To: Chris Fedde Cc: Dominic Mitchell , Holtor , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: sendmail 8.11.0 Message-ID: <20000801211646.A50818@184.215.6.64.reflexcom.com> Reply-To: cjclark@alum.mit.edu References: <20000801155735.B97403@bizboz.mistral.co.uk> <200008012003.e71K3wd41491@fedde.littleton.co.us> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <200008012003.e71K3wd41491@fedde.littleton.co.us>; from chris@fedde.littleton.co.us on Tue, Aug 01, 2000 at 02:03:57PM -0600 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Aug 01, 2000 at 02:03:57PM -0600, Chris Fedde wrote: > On Tue, 1 Aug 2000 15:57:35 +0100 Dominic Mitchell wrote: > +------------------ > | On Tue, Aug 01, 2000 at 08:38:56AM -0600, Chris Fedde wrote: > | > I find > | > the whole mailwrapper thing bizarre in the extreem. It is similar > | > to the whole /usr/local/etc/rc.d scheme where we are adding a > | > layer of indirection when there is no need for one. > | > | On the contrary - I find it a complete godsend. It makes replacing the > | standard sendmail with a port/package and absolute breeze. It's far > | nicer than having each port hack around in /usr/sbin for no good reason. > | > | -Dom > +------------------ > > My point is that there is a perfectly good mechinism in existance to allow > switching between MTA. The rc.conf mechinism works well and is consistant > for all other components of the system. In this one case we add a layer of > indirection below rc.conf. > Why not simply use something like > > mta_enable="YES" > mta=/usr/sbin/sendmail > or > mta_ena > mta=/usr/sbin/qmail > > and the appropriate frag in /etc/rc to work with this > I find the whole mailwrapper thing bizarre in the extreem ;-) But that will only affect the MTA listening for relays. It will not change what executable a program trying to send mail on the local machine will exec to send mail... Unless now everything that sends mail has to source rc.conf first. Yuck. -- Crist J. Clark cjclark@alum.mit.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Aug 1 22:29:42 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.yourfit.com (28.wxfr1.xdsl.nauticom.net [209.195.150.61]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8782E37BFE5 for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 22:29:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from behanna@zbzoom.net) Received: from armani.yourfit.com (armani.yourfit.com [192.168.1.120]) by mail.yourfit.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA17457 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 01:29:29 -0400 Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 01:29:29 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time) From: Chris BeHanna Reply-To: behanna@zbzoom.net To: FreeBSD-Stable Subject: RE: Upgrade info request (fwd) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I wrote the following in response to an off-list question from a new FreeBSD-er who wanted to know how to track STABLE. I thought it might be of more general use, so I'm forwarding it here. Apologies to those of you who already know this stuff. I wouldn't be the slightest bit heartbroken if someone stole from it and compiled it into more formal documentation. :-) Q: What is CVSup and how does it work? How do I run it? Background ---------- First of all "CVS" is a source code control system that allows files to be stored in versions. What it does is store a base revision, and then it stores the changes that are needed to alter the file to the next revision (and the next, and the next, and so on to the most recent, or "head" revision). CVS can operate both on local files and on files shared over a network. Like any decent source code control system, CVS allows certain revisions to be given symbolic names, or "tags". An entire source tree can be given the same tag, and whatever the head revision of each file was at the instant the tag was laid down is given the same tag. Thus, the tagged revisions make up a "snapshot" of the source tree at the instant the tree was tagged. Also, like any decent source code control system, CVS allows developers to branch off from the main line of development to develop different versions of a product more or less independently. Changes on the mainline and on the branches can be merged back and forth as needed (e.g., when someone fixes something critical on the 5.0 branch, they back-propagate the fix to the branches for previous versions). The current active branches are 4.0-STABLE (identified by the CVS tag RELENG_4) and 5.0-CURRENT (the mainline). In FreeBSD-land, snapshots form the releases (3.4-RELEASE, 3.5-RELEASE, and so on). To make a release, a given branch is given a tag, and the tagged branch becomes the release. For example, to make 4.0-RELEASE, the 4.0-STABLE branch was tagged with the label "RELENG_4_0_0_RELEASE". To make 4.1-RELEASE, the 4.0-STABLE branch was tagged branch with the label "RELENG_4_1_1_RELEASE". At that instant, 4.0-STABLE became 4.1-STABLE, with 4.1-RELEASE being the point of transition. To recap, a tag is a symbolic name for a version of a file, and several files can share the same tag, forming a snapshot in time of those files' revisions. Files can be active on branches, as well, so that changes in one branch don't break things in the other(s) (e.g., experimental stuff in 5.0-CURRENT doesn't break 4.0-STABLE because they're on separate branches). Here's a picture with a few representative events: ---X--------------X----------------------------> HEAD (5.0-CURRENT) \ \ \ ---X-------------------X---> RELENG_4 (4.1-STABLE) ^ \ ^ ^ ^ | \--------X-+----+----------------X RELENG_3 (3.5-RELEASE) | ^ | | ^ | | | | | | | | | | | | Snapshot that Version 3.x | | Snapshot that | became branch created | | became | 4.1-RELEASE. At | | 4.0-RELEASE | this moment, 4.0-STABLE | | | became 4.1-STABLE. | | | | | Snapshot | Version 4.x that became | branch created 3.5-RELEASE. | This was the Snapshot terminal release that became for the 3.x branch, 3.4-RELEASE which is now retired. Notice that development continues after a release. A release is supposed to represent a very stable point during development, during which extra care was taken to make sure that the operating system didn't have any experimental code in it, and that as much stuff as possible was working. The ongoing development in the STABLE branch represents bug fixes and well-tested enhancements and additions to the operating system. The ongoing development in the CURRENT branch represents bleeding edge development of new stuff that doesn't always work. Don't worry if this is confusing at first. It takes a little while to get used to the notion of a source code control system and the idea of different branches of development, and it takes a couple of hours of RTFM to master CVS. Fortunately, you don't have to master it to use CVSup; it's sufficient just to understand the concepts. CVS is implemented in the "cvs" command suite. Full documentation (and a FAQ) is located at http://www.loria.fr/~molli/cvs-index.html . CVSup ----- "CVSup" is a protocol that FreeBSD uses for batch distribution of changed files. The files are organized into packages. Whereas CVS can update individual files, CVSup can only update collections of files. Within each package, CVSup only updates the files that are out-of-date. CVSup's activity is controlled by two configuration files: a "supfile" that tells CVSup what packages to update (and to what revision tags to update them), and a "refuse" file to tell CVSup not to update certain files within packages. The CVSup protocol is implemented in the command "cvsup". I hope that's been a helpful introduction. For more details, you really need to refer to the handbook, in particular, Section 18: http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/cutting-edge.html . The specific instructions to get you started (including a template supfile) are there. Be sure to read the comments in the supfile! -- Chris BeHanna Software Engineer (at yourfit.com) behanna@zbzoom.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Aug 1 22:51:15 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 758) id 2E08437B720; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 22:51:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A9362E8197; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 22:51:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@hub.freebsd.org) Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2000 22:51:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Kris Kennaway To: Dan Langille Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: NOBIND. How about NOIPF? In-Reply-To: <39860942.5539.38281011@localhost> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 31 Jul 2000, Dan Langille wrote: > I want to create a NOIPF option for make.conf similar in nature for > NOBIND. Can someone point me as to where to look for the use of the > NOBIND option? I tried this, then figured I should ask: > > [root@ducky:/usr/src] # grep NOBIND Makefile grep -r NO_BIND /usr/src Kris -- In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. -- Charles Forsythe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 2 0:18:54 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from tsunami.reflectively.net (tsunami.reflectively.net [216.85.76.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C679A37B74C for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 00:18:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from raugustine@reflectively.net) Received: (qmail 55750 invoked from network); 2 Aug 2000 07:18:48 -0000 Received: from cc47835-b.chmbl1.ga.home.com (HELO vapor) (@24.5.106.158) by tsunami.reflectively.net with SMTP; 2 Aug 2000 07:18:48 -0000 Message-ID: <000901bffc51$dc8de320$0200000a@cm.420.net> From: "Robert Augustine" To: Subject: Two Small Questions. Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 03:18:26 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Disposition-Notification-To: "Robert Augustine" X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, I have two questions that I need to get a good answer on. I recently purchased a SIIG AP-40 UltraWide SCSI controller. It has the initio chipset and I was wondering if it is compatible with Freebsd, and if so what device do I have to enable in the kernel config? Also I want to know if I do a make world on a 4.0-STABLE system will it automatically be 4.1-STABLE if i do a CVSUP every day? Thanks. -Robert To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 2 0:38: 0 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from snafu.adept.org (adsl-63-201-63-44.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [63.201.63.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6515F37C0DB for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 00:37:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@adept.org) Received: from localhost (mike@localhost) by snafu.adept.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA15792; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 00:37:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@adept.org) Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 00:37:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Mike Hoskins To: Robert Augustine Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Two Small Questions. In-Reply-To: <000901bffc51$dc8de320$0200000a@cm.420.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 2 Aug 2000, Robert Augustine wrote: > I have two questions that I need to get a good answer on. I recently > purchased a SIIG AP-40 UltraWide SCSI controller. It has the initio chipset > and I was wondering if it is compatible with Freebsd, and if so what device > do I have to enable in the kernel config? I don't see anything in /usr/src/sys/i386/conf/LINT or http://people.freebsd.org/~msmith/RAID/index.html. You may try contacting some of the individuals mentioned on that page or post to freebsd-scsi. > Also I want to know if I do a make world on a 4.0-STABLE system will it > automatically be 4.1-STABLE if i do a CVSUP every day? Under 4.0-STABLE, if you cvsup using /usr/share/examples/cvsup/4.x-stable-supfile you will end up with 4.1-STABLE (or just 'stable'). -mrh To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 2 0:58:55 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from csmd2.cs.uni-magdeburg.de (csmd2.CS.Uni-Magdeburg.De [141.44.22.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5992D37B7F8 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 00:58:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jesse@mail.CS.Uni-Magdeburg.De) Received: from knecht.cs.uni-magdeburg.de (jesse@knecht [141.44.21.3]) by csmd2.cs.uni-magdeburg.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA11216 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 09:58:45 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from jesse@localhost) by knecht.cs.uni-magdeburg.de (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) id JAA08298; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 09:58:04 +0200 (MET DST) X-Authentication-Warning: knecht.cs.uni-magdeburg.de: jesse set sender to jesse@cs.uni-magdeburg.de using -f To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Suggestion for change of /usr/src/UPDATING (was: Re: HEADS UP! Always use the 'make buildkernel' target to make yer kernels) References: <20000731030044.A17511@flashcom.net> <4.3.2.20000709232757.00b1e6a0@207.227.119.2> <200008012102.PAA86077@harmony.village.org> <398789CD.2DADAB33@gmx.de> From: Roland Jesse In-Reply-To: Siegbert Baude's message of "Wed, 02 Aug 2000 04:39:09 +0200" Date: 02 Aug 2000 09:58:04 +0200 Message-ID: <0vd7jsf62b.fsf@cs.uni-magdeburg.de> Lines: 33 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0807 (Gnus v5.8.7) Emacs/20.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Siegbert Baude writes: > ---Begin Suggestion--- Not bad, but: > # Verify that the new kernel works, it will be installed as > # /YOUR_KERNEL_HERE > chflags noschg /kernel > chflags noschg /YOUR_KERNEL_HERE > mv /kernel /kernel.old > mv /YOUR_KERNEL_HERE /kernel > chflags schg /kernel I am not in favour of putting *that* in UPDATING. Either suggest an appropriate entry in /boot/loader.conf: # Make sure that the new kernel gets booted the next time # you reboot by putting the following line in # /boot/loader.conf: kernel="/YOUR_KERNEL_HERE" Or (and that's what I like more and do) in the section where one modifies her kernel config file: # Make sure that the kernel gets installed as /kernel and # therefore gets loaded at boot time. Put a "kernel" entry # in your kernel config file, like this: makeoptions KERNEL=kernel Just my 0.42 Euro-Cent. Roland To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 2 1:13: 6 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from snafu.adept.org (adsl-63-201-63-44.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [63.201.63.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B67C137B822 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 01:13:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@adept.org) Received: from localhost (mike@localhost) by snafu.adept.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA15996; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 01:12:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@adept.org) Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 01:12:23 -0700 (PDT) From: Mike Hoskins To: plamendp@bgstore.com Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: telnet connection refused from IP outside subnet In-Reply-To: <200008010956.MAA07790@plamen.bgstore.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 1 Aug 2000 plamendp@bgstore.com wrote: > Actualy, I don't have 'login failers'. I just can't > connect! "Connection refused", not login failer! I do not get login > prompt at all! Correct... However, per inetd(8), wrapped services log failed attempts using the auth syslog facility. > 'host' is ok in both directions (host and host gives the > same name/IP). Can I assume resolving is ok ? You did this from your server, not your home system, correct? Just checking, since inetd will obviouslly be using the DNS of your server to see if a given host is allowed. Do you have the same problem if you comment out the PARANOID line in /etc/hosts.allow? #ALL : PARANOID : RFC931 20 : deny What's a traceroute look like from the disallowed connection to the server, and from the server to your disallowed IP? > If i could force things to be logged somehow :-) I can send my > /etc/syslog.conf if it will be of help ? Hmm, I understand your pain... I just attempted to make sshd log failed attempts and... I must be overlooking something really simple, because it's not working. I looked at inetd(8) and sshd(8). I have the following in /etc/ssh/sshd_config by default: SyslogFacility AUTH LogLevel INFO So I created the following in /etc/syslog.conf (Yes, those are tabs): auth.* /var/log/auth.log In sshd_config I even tried bumping LogLevel up to VERBOSE. I touched /var/log/auth.log and it is writeable by syslogd. I then removed an allow rule for one of my boxes, ssh'd in, and got denied without anything being logged to auth.log. Sshd is standalone... So logging behavior relating to inetd shouldn't matter, but I noticed mention of daemon.* being used by inetd so tried logging those too... Still nothing. Hmm. -mrh To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 2 1:19:15 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from numeri.campus.luth.se (numeri.campus.luth.se [130.240.197.103]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97A5D37B822 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 01:19:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from k@numeri.campus.luth.se) Received: from numeri.campus.luth.se (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by numeri.campus.luth.se (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA20856; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 10:19:43 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from k@numeri.campus.luth.se) Message-Id: <200008020819.KAA20856@numeri.campus.luth.se> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: Roland Jesse Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Suggestion for change of /usr/src/UPDATING (was: Re: HEADS UP! Always use the 'make buildkernel' target to make yer kernels) In-Reply-To: Your message of "02 Aug 2000 09:58:04 +0200." <0vd7jsf62b.fsf@cs.uni-magdeburg.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 10:19:43 +0200 From: Johan Karlsson Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 02 Aug 2000 09:58:04 +0200, Roland Jesse wrote: > Siegbert Baude writes: > > > ---Begin Suggestion--- > > Not bad, but: > > > # Verify that the new kernel works, it will be installed as > > # /YOUR_KERNEL_HERE > > chflags noschg /kernel > > chflags noschg /YOUR_KERNEL_HERE > > mv /kernel /kernel.old > > mv /YOUR_KERNEL_HERE /kernel > > chflags schg /kernel > > I am not in favour of putting *that* in UPDATING. Either suggest an > appropriate entry in /boot/loader.conf: > > # Make sure that the new kernel gets booted the next time > # you reboot by putting the following line in > # /boot/loader.conf: > kernel="/YOUR_KERNEL_HERE" > > Or (and that's what I like more and do) in the section where one > modifies her kernel config file: > > # Make sure that the kernel gets installed as /kernel and > # therefore gets loaded at boot time. Put a "kernel" entry > # in your kernel config file, like this: > makeoptions KERNEL=kernel This has been taken care of in current but in a slightly different way. When using the build/installkernel targets the built / installed kernel is named 'kernel' Hence, when these changes are MFC:ed this part is not needed at all in UPDATING. I think it is better to MFC than adding this :-) /Johan K To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 2 1:42:50 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from exchange.mistral.co.uk (gate.mistral.co.uk [195.184.225.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C44B137B831 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 01:42:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hdm@mistral.co.uk) Received: from bizboz.mistral.co.uk ([195.184.225.25]) by exchange.mistral.co.uk with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2448.0) id PLBL6CAJ; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 09:35:18 +0100 Received: by bizboz.mistral.co.uk (Postfix, from userid 1000) id C2FA033E; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 09:42:30 +0100 (BST) Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 09:42:30 +0100 From: Dominic Mitchell To: cjclark@alum.mit.edu Cc: Chris Fedde , Holtor , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: sendmail 8.11.0 Message-ID: <20000802094230.A99818@bizboz.mistral.co.uk> References: <20000801155735.B97403@bizboz.mistral.co.uk> <200008012003.e71K3wd41491@fedde.littleton.co.us> <20000801211646.A50818@184.215.6.64.reflexcom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <20000801211646.A50818@184.215.6.64.reflexcom.com>; from cjclark@reflexnet.net on Tue, Aug 01, 2000 at 09:16:46PM -0700 X-Warning: Incoming message from The Big Giant Head! X-OS: FreeBSD 4.1-RC i386 X-Uptime: 9:40AM up 12 days, 17:16, 8 users, load averages: 0.65, 0.72, 0.88 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Aug 01, 2000 at 09:16:46PM -0700, Crist J . Clark wrote: > On Tue, Aug 01, 2000 at 02:03:57PM -0600, Chris Fedde wrote: > > My point is that there is a perfectly good mechinism in existance to allow > > switching between MTA. The rc.conf mechinism works well and is consistant > > for all other components of the system. In this one case we add a layer of > > indirection below rc.conf. > > Why not simply use something like > > > > mta_enable="YES" > > mta=/usr/sbin/sendmail > > or > > mta_ena > > mta=/usr/sbin/qmail > > > > and the appropriate frag in /etc/rc to work with this > > I find the whole mailwrapper thing bizarre in the extreem ;-) > > But that will only affect the MTA listening for relays. It will not > change what executable a program trying to send mail on the local > machine will exec to send mail... Unless now everything that sends > mail has to source rc.conf first. Yuck. Precisely. Like it or not, /usr/sbin/sendmail has become an interface to sending mail and is *not* exclusive to sendmail. -Dom (Paid up member of the Sendmail Must Die club) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 2 2:39:29 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from avdira.cc.duth.gr (avdira.cc.duth.gr [192.108.114.39]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1154C37B5BF for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 02:39:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kkonstan@avdira.cc.duth.gr) Received: (from kkonstan@localhost) by avdira.cc.duth.gr (8.10.1/8.10.1) id e729dNY03753 for stable@freebsd.org; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 12:39:23 +0300 (EEST) Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 12:39:23 +0300 From: Konstantinos Konstantinidis To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: ports/www/mozilla Makefile ports/www/mozilla/files md5 ports/www/mozilla/patches patch-ai ports/www/mozilla/pkg PLIST Message-ID: <20000802123923.A1079@avdira.cc.duth.gr> References: <20000801091824.E84140@shale.csir.co.za> <9132.965164662@localhost> <20000801180058.A57537@cokane.yi.org> <20000801234733.A2488@cokane.yi.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <20000801234733.A2488@cokane.yi.org>; from cokane@one.net on Tue, Aug 01, 2000 at 11:47:33PM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Aug 01, 2000 at 11:47:33PM -0400, Coleman Kane wrote: > Still, this is no excuse for changing the port without asking the > maintainer Obviously, something's amiss. I compiled it yesterday on my 4.1-STABLE at home, and it would fail with some really obscure messages. After a bit of looking around, I realized some files in /usr/X11R6/lib/mozilla or thereabouts where only readable by root - silly that, they seem to be related to the GUI, chmod go+rx fixed it. As it is, the port should only run by root. Not a major problem with the port then. For those of you that built mozilla M16, DO try /usr/ports/www/galeon. HTH, K. Konstantinidis To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 2 3:36:46 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from plamen.bgstore.com (bgstore.digsys.bg [193.68.22.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 374F637B570 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 03:36:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from plamendp@bgstore.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.bgstore.com [127.0.0.1]) by plamen.bgstore.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA09588 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 13:34:33 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from plamendp@bgstore.com) Message-Id: <200008021034.NAA09588@plamen.bgstore.com> Subject: making a RELEASE Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org From: plamendp@bgstore.com Content-type: text/plain Mime-version: 1.0 X-Sender-ip: 4d23f171 Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 13:34 +0100 X-mailer: Netbula AnyEMail(TM) 4.67 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, I cvsup-ed all src collections, including ports and doc (i.e. src-all, doc-all and ports-all). I went to /usr/src/release and tried to "make release". It asked me to provide CVSROOT variable. And oops.. I am confused ... :-) Wich path should I give to CVSROOT dir ? Any documentation regarding "make release" procedure ? 10x. p.s. please CC: plamendp@bgstore.com ------------------- Plamen D. Petkov, ICQ# 2214327 plamendp@bgstore.com First Bulgarian Internet Store http://www.bgstore.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 2 3:43:12 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from exchange.mistral.co.uk (gate.mistral.co.uk [195.184.225.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0213F37B818 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 03:43:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hdm@mistral.co.uk) Received: from bizboz.mistral.co.uk ([195.184.225.25]) by exchange.mistral.co.uk with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2448.0) id PLBL6CBK; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 11:35:39 +0100 Received: by bizboz.mistral.co.uk (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 7D6B8382; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 11:42:50 +0100 (BST) Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 11:42:50 +0100 From: Dominic Mitchell To: plamendp@bgstore.com Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: making a RELEASE Message-ID: <20000802114250.A417@bizboz.mistral.co.uk> References: <200008021034.NAA09588@plamen.bgstore.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <200008021034.NAA09588@plamen.bgstore.com>; from plamendp@bgstore.com on Wed, Aug 02, 2000 at 01:34:00PM +0100 X-Warning: Incoming message from The Big Giant Head! X-OS: FreeBSD 4.1-RC i386 X-Uptime: 11:41AM up 12 days, 19:17, 8 users, load averages: 0.44, 0.40, 0.39 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Aug 02, 2000 at 01:34:00PM +0100, plamendp@bgstore.com wrote: > Hi, > > I cvsup-ed all src collections, including ports and doc (i.e. src-all, > doc-all and ports-all). > > I went to /usr/src/release and tried to "make release". It asked me to > provide CVSROOT variable. And oops.. I am confused ... :-) > > Wich path should I give to CVSROOT dir ? You need to download the the cvs collections, not the "checked-out" collections for make release to work. > Any documentation regarding "make release" procedure ? % less /usr/src/release/Makefile :-) -Dom To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 2 4: 6: 1 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from csmd2.cs.uni-magdeburg.de (csmd2.CS.Uni-Magdeburg.De [141.44.22.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E867C37B663 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 04:05:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jesse@mail.CS.Uni-Magdeburg.De) Received: from knecht.cs.uni-magdeburg.de (jesse@knecht [141.44.21.3]) by csmd2.cs.uni-magdeburg.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA27744 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 13:05:55 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from jesse@localhost) by knecht.cs.uni-magdeburg.de (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) id NAA18320; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 13:05:14 +0200 (MET DST) X-Authentication-Warning: knecht.cs.uni-magdeburg.de: jesse set sender to jesse@cs.uni-magdeburg.de using -f To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Suggestion for change of /usr/src/UPDATING (was: Re: HEADS UP! Always use the 'make buildkernel' target to make yer kernels) References: <200008020819.KAA20856@numeri.campus.luth.se> From: Roland Jesse In-Reply-To: Johan Karlsson's message of "Wed, 02 Aug 2000 10:19:43 +0200" Date: 02 Aug 2000 13:05:14 +0200 Message-ID: <0vpunrexed.fsf@cs.uni-magdeburg.de> Lines: 14 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0807 (Gnus v5.8.7) Emacs/20.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Johan Karlsson writes: > This has been taken care of in current but in a slightly different way. > When using the build/installkernel targets the built / installed kernel > is named 'kernel' > Hence, when these changes are MFC:ed this part is not needed at all in > UPDATING. > > I think it is better to MFC than adding this :-) Good news. I would appreciate if that is going to be announced here and not silently done. Roland To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 2 4:18:22 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from flood.ping.uio.no (flood.ping.uio.no [129.240.78.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A12D37B505 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 04:18:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from des@flood.ping.uio.no) Received: (from des@localhost) by flood.ping.uio.no (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA31327; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 13:18:14 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from des@flood.ping.uio.no) To: Matt Heckaman Cc: FreeBSD-STABLE Subject: Re: is fetch broken? References: From: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Date: 02 Aug 2000 13:18:13 +0200 In-Reply-To: Matt Heckaman's message of "Tue, 1 Aug 2000 08:17:40 -0400 (EDT)" Message-ID: Lines: 31 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0802 (Gnus v5.8.2) Emacs/20.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Matt Heckaman writes: > *nods* It still breaks wmstock though, it never sees itself as getting the > complete file and errors out, and keeps on trying making temporary files > that it never knows are correct :) Thank you for the quick diagnoses > though, it's appreciated. Quick fix (I think): Index: http.c =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/lib/libfetch/http.c,v retrieving revision 1.34 diff -u -r1.34 http.c --- http.c 2000/07/25 11:45:38 1.34 +++ http.c 2000/08/02 11:17:09 @@ -770,8 +770,7 @@ struct url *url, *new; int chunked, need_auth, noredirect, proxy, verbose; int code, fd, i, n; - off_t offset; - size_t clength, length, size; + off_t offset, clength, length, size; time_t mtime; char *p; FILE *f; Now, the question is why gcc didn't warn me about this... DES -- Dag-Erling Smorgrav - des@flood.ping.uio.no To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 2 4:23:35 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.yourfit.com (28.wxfr1.xdsl.nauticom.net [209.195.150.61]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B67E737B557 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 04:23:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from behanna@zbzoom.net) Received: from tommy (chrisb@tommy.yourfit.com [192.168.1.10]) by mail.yourfit.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA19570; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 07:23:13 -0400 Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 07:23:13 -0400 (EDT) From: Chris BeHanna Reply-To: behanna@zbzoom.net To: Dominic Mitchell Cc: plamendp@bgstore.com, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: making a RELEASE In-Reply-To: <20000802114250.A417@bizboz.mistral.co.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 2 Aug 2000, Dominic Mitchell wrote: > On Wed, Aug 02, 2000 at 01:34:00PM +0100, plamendp@bgstore.com wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I cvsup-ed all src collections, including ports and doc (i.e. src-all, > > doc-all and ports-all). > > > > I went to /usr/src/release and tried to "make release". It asked me to > > provide CVSROOT variable. And oops.. I am confused ... :-) > > > > Wich path should I give to CVSROOT dir ? > > You need to download the the cvs collections, not the "checked-out" > collections for make release to work. > > > Any documentation regarding "make release" procedure ? > > % less /usr/src/release/Makefile SLOW DOWN! "make release" will make the iso images (right?) What he wants, I suspect, is to cd to /usr/src and follow the instructions in /usr/src/UPDATING. Regards, Chris BeHanna behanna@zbzoom.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 2 4:27: 0 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.ZSEA.zp.ua (ZSEA.zp.ua [212.8.40.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D9BB37B505 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 04:26:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from laa@laa.zp.ua) Received: (from laa@localhost) by mx1.ZSEA.zp.ua (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA65636; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 14:25:23 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from laa@laa.zp.ua) Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 14:25:22 +0300 From: Alexandr A Listopad To: Chris BeHanna Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: making a RELEASE Message-ID: <20000802142522.A65571@laa.zp.ua> References: <20000802114250.A417@bizboz.mistral.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: ; from behanna@zbzoom.net on Wed, Aug 02, 2000 at 07:23:13AM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Aug 02, 2000 at 07:23:13AM -0400, Chris BeHanna wrote: > SLOW DOWN! > > "make release" will make the iso images (right?) no, make release make only ftp,cd-version of install tree, no image > > What he wants, I suspect, is to cd to /usr/src and follow the > instructions in /usr/src/UPDATING. -- Laa To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 2 4:52:59 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pawn.primelocation.net (pawn.primelocation.net [205.161.238.235]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FCED37B557 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 04:52:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jedgar@fxp.org) Received: from earth (oca-c1s3-15.mfi.net [209.26.94.108]) by pawn.primelocation.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABE099B1C; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 07:52:56 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 07:52:55 -0400 (EDT) From: "Chris D. Faulhaber" X-Sender: jedgar@earth.causticlabs.com To: plamendp@bgstore.com Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: making a RELEASE In-Reply-To: <200008021034.NAA09588@plamen.bgstore.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 2 Aug 2000 plamendp@bgstore.com wrote: > Hi, > > I cvsup-ed all src collections, including ports and doc (i.e. src-all, doc-all and ports-all). > > I went to /usr/src/release and tried to "make release". It asked me to provide CVSROOT variable. And oops.. I am confused ... :-) > > Wich path should I give to CVSROOT dir ? > > Any documentation regarding "make release" procedure ? > http://www.FreeBSD.org/FAQ/hackers.html#CUSTREL ----- Chris D. Faulhaber - jedgar@fxp.org - jedgar@FreeBSD.org -------------------------------------------------------- FreeBSD: The Power To Serve - http://www.FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 2 5: 4: 8 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx.nkm.lt (mx.nkm.lt [193.219.211.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1284D37B5C1 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 05:04:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from midom@dammit.lt) Received: (qmail 19850 invoked by uid 1073); 2 Aug 2000 12:03:57 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 2 Aug 2000 12:03:57 -0000 Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 14:03:57 +0200 (CEST) From: Domas Mituzas X-Sender: midom@mx.nkm.lt To: plamendp@bgstore.com Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: making a RELEASE [should make buildworld made before?] In-Reply-To: <200008021034.NAA09588@plamen.bgstore.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, > I cvsup-ed all src collections, including ports and doc (i.e. src-all, doc-all and ports-all). You should fetch cvs collection. Btw, I missed to find, that "make buildworld" is mandatory before make release (It failed in several places, if I didn't build the world). Therefore, during make release world is recompiled at least two times. Is it a normal operation? With respect, Domas Mituzas dbit.lt, network systems engineer To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 2 5:18:27 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [209.152.133.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0469937B5C1 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 05:18:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id FAA08301; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 05:17:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 05:17:54 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: plamendp@bgstore.com, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: making a RELEASE Message-ID: <20000802051754.A8263@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@FreeBSD.ORG References: <200008021034.NAA09588@plamen.bgstore.com> <20000802114250.A417@bizboz.mistral.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <20000802114250.A417@bizboz.mistral.co.uk>; from hdm@mistral.co.uk on Wed, Aug 02, 2000 at 11:42:50AM +0100 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Aug 02, 2000 at 11:42:50AM +0100, Dominic Mitchell wrote: > > I cvsup-ed all src collections, including ports and doc (i.e. src-all, > > doc-all and ports-all). ... > > Wich path should I give to CVSROOT dir ? > > You need to download the the cvs collections, not the "checked-out" > collections for make release to work. You could also set CVSROOT to the anoncvs.freebsd.org service. This would be slower, but save you disk space. -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 2 5:20:21 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [209.152.133.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7173837B744 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 05:20:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id FAA08314; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 05:19:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 05:19:48 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: Domas Mituzas Cc: plamendp@bgstore.com, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: making a RELEASE [should make buildworld made before?] Message-ID: <20000802051948.B8263@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@freebsd.org References: <200008021034.NAA09588@plamen.bgstore.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: ; from midom@dammit.lt on Wed, Aug 02, 2000 at 02:03:57PM +0200 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Aug 02, 2000 at 02:03:57PM +0200, Domas Mituzas wrote: > Btw, I missed to find, that "make buildworld" is mandatory before make > release (It failed in several places, if I didn't build the > world). Therefore, during make release world is recompiled at least two > times. Is it a normal operation? Yes, this is normal. However, today's buildworld is more resilent having better build-tools, etc.. targets than when release/Makefile was first written. Maybe this need could be removed. But this hasn't happened yet. -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 2 5:34:54 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de (dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de [139.174.243.252]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DF5237B71E for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 05:34:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from olli@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de) Received: (from olli@localhost) by dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA36003; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 14:34:48 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from olli) Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 14:34:48 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <200008021234.OAA36003@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de> From: Oliver Fromme To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: kernel config needs a blank line at EOF X-Newsgroups: list.freebsd-stable In-Reply-To: <8m810t$2mub$1@atlantis.rz.tu-clausthal.de> Organization: Administration TU Clausthal MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: tin/1.4.1-19991201 ("Polish") (UNIX) (FreeBSD/3.4-19991219-STABLE (i386)) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In list.freebsd-stable Dan Langille wrote: > config: line 238: syntax error > [...] > which was the last line in the file. I then suggested then they add a > CRLF to the end of the file (so that the last line was an empy > line). config then ran successfully. Do you mean that the last line was not terminated by a newline character? In that case it was not a valid unix textfile, and you'll get undefined behaviour. This can't happen when you use a unix text editor such as vi, which always terminates the last line with a newline character. If you mean that there really needed to be an empty line after the last line (i.e. the last two characters in the file had to be newlines), then I cannot reproduce the problem here on a 4.1 box. Even the last line in GENERIC isn't empty, and it's working fine. (If it wasn't, I'd call this a bug in config.) Regards Oliver PS: By the way, the newline is not "CRLF". This is not DOS. ;-) -- Oliver Fromme, Leibnizstr. 18/61, 38678 Clausthal, Germany (Info: finger userinfo:olli@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de) Addresses will change soon!! If in doubt: www.fromme.com "In jedem Stück Kohle wartet ein Diamant auf seine Geburt" (Terry Pratchett) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 2 5:40:36 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de (dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de [139.174.243.252]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F25D637B7CF for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 05:40:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from olli@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de) Received: (from olli@localhost) by dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA36034; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 14:40:23 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from olli) Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 14:40:23 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <200008021240.OAA36034@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de> From: Oliver Fromme To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: making a RELEASE X-Newsgroups: list.freebsd-stable In-Reply-To: <8m90ml$7fl$1@atlantis.rz.tu-clausthal.de> Organization: Administration TU Clausthal MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: tin/1.4.1-19991201 ("Polish") (UNIX) (FreeBSD/3.4-19991219-STABLE (i386)) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In list.freebsd-stable Alexandr A Listopad wrote: > On Wed, Aug 02, 2000 at 07:23:13AM -0400, Chris BeHanna wrote: > > SLOW DOWN! > > > > "make release" will make the iso images (right?) > > no, make release make only ftp,cd-version of install tree, no image Well, it will make the CD-ROM trees, and you can simply use /usr/share/examples/worm/makecdfs.sh then to make the images. No problem at all. I've done it a thousand times. Regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme, Leibnizstr. 18/61, 38678 Clausthal, Germany (Info: finger userinfo:olli@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de) Addresses will change soon!! If in doubt: www.fromme.com "In jedem Stück Kohle wartet ein Diamant auf seine Geburt" (Terry Pratchett) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 2 5:42: 5 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from plamen.bgstore.com (bgstore.digsys.bg [193.68.22.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30D3237B7ED for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 05:41:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from plamendp@plamen.bgstore.com) Received: from localhost (plamendp@localhost) by plamen.bgstore.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA10788; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 15:38:53 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from plamendp@plamen.bgstore.com) Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 15:38:53 +0300 (EEST) From: Plamen Petkov To: Domas Mituzas Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: making a RELEASE [should make buildworld made before?] In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I did 'make buildworld' and 'make installwordl' before trying 'make release'. :-) However, now I realize that making a release is too hard for me :-( My idea was to cvsup all src-es, make the world and, if everything is fine, to make a (spare) install CD with kind of MY-FREEBSD-SNAP :-). Well, I'll keep trying ... I have enough disk space, resources and time to try :-) bye, ----------------------------------- Plamen D. Petkov (ICQ 2214327 [pdp]) plamendp@bgstore.com FBiS First Bulgarian Internet Store http://www.bgstore.com ----------------------------------- On Wed, 2 Aug 2000, Domas Mituzas wrote: > Btw, I missed to find, that "make buildworld" is mandatory before make > release (It failed in several places, if I didn't build the > world). Therefore, during make release world is recompiled at least two > times. Is it a normal operation? > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 2 5:42:28 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from priv-edtnes11-hme0.telusplanet.net (fepout3.telus.net [199.185.220.238]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3896737B7ED for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 05:42:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from q@crackbaby.org) Received: from ricepower ([209.53.59.203]) by priv-edtnes11-hme0.telusplanet.net (InterMail vM.4.01.02.11 201-229-116-111) with SMTP id <20000802124211.EMIL288.priv-edtnes11-hme0.telusplanet.net@ricepower> for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 06:42:11 -0600 Message-ID: <007001bffc7f$190d2040$cb3b35d1@bconnected.net> From: "Q Tuyen" To: Subject: make buildworld FAILED HELP!!!!!!!!! Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 05:42:06 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello keep getting this error when i tried to do make buildworld or make world I'd read teh /usr/src/UPDATING but can't seem to figure out what is the problems with this anyone can point me to the right direction on fixing this problems Im currently runing 4.0 R. Did a cvsup on the src and all the ports right b 4 i tried make buildworld. I check and clean out /usr/obj before i did make buildworld. So /usr/obj is clean. I goal is to upgrade to 4.0 STABLE and build a kernel after. I'd been at this make buildworld for bout the 10 times now. One problems after next. This really got me. I'd also tried to cd /usr/src/ make clean then make update cvsup again. And make build world I got the same error msg again Thx much /usr.bin/perl/perl -DSDBM -DDUFF pair.c cc -c -I/usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/perl -DVERSION=\"0.10\" -DXS_VERSION=\"0.10\" -DPIC -fpic -I/usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/perl -DSDBM -DDUFF hash.c Segmentation fault - core dumped *** Error code 139 Stop in /usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/perl/ext/SDBM_File/sdbm. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/perl/ext/SDBM_File. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/perl. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/gnu. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. ¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿ -=- Quang (Peter) Tuyen q@tuyen.org -=- Email: q@coreerror.com & q@innocenttime.com & q@bcculture.com -=- Fax No: 1+604+2518076 1+604+9740993 extension 1286 -=- Voicemail: 1+604+9740993 extension 1286 ‹{º¿º}› Patient dies.... but Love lives.......... ??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? 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If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately. ======================================================================= To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 2 5:42:52 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de (dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de [139.174.243.252]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84AB737B7E9 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 05:42:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from olli@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de) Received: (from olli@localhost) by dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA36056; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 14:42:46 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from olli) Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 14:42:46 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <200008021242.OAA36056@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de> From: Oliver Fromme To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: making a RELEASE [should make buildworld made before?] X-Newsgroups: list.freebsd-stable In-Reply-To: <8m92s4$8l2$1@atlantis.rz.tu-clausthal.de> Organization: Administration TU Clausthal MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: tin/1.4.1-19991201 ("Polish") (UNIX) (FreeBSD/3.4-19991219-STABLE (i386)) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In list.freebsd-stable Domas Mituzas wrote: > Btw, I missed to find, that "make buildworld" is mandatory before make > release (It failed in several places, if I didn't build the > world). Therefore, during make release world is recompiled at least two > times. Is it a normal operation? Yes. The second time, the world is built with the new world inside the chroot tree. This makes sure that you get reproducible results, no matter what OS version is running outside the chroot (as long as it can compile the sources at all). Regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme, Leibnizstr. 18/61, 38678 Clausthal, Germany (Info: finger userinfo:olli@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de) Addresses will change soon!! If in doubt: www.fromme.com "In jedem Stück Kohle wartet ein Diamant auf seine Geburt" (Terry Pratchett) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 2 5:44:40 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [209.152.133.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4B6737B7E9; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 05:44:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id FAA30841; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 05:44:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 05:44:10 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: Sean Kelly Cc: questions@freebsd.org, stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD Console Message-ID: <20000802054410.C8263@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@freebsd.org References: <20000728100018.A12519@edgemaster.zombie.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <20000728100018.A12519@edgemaster.zombie.org>; from smkelly@zombie.org on Fri, Jul 28, 2000 at 10:00:18AM -0500 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, Jul 28, 2000 at 10:00:18AM -0500, Sean Kelly wrote: > and productive, but I have one problem. We have many HP/UX machines, and > I am constantly connecting to them. I can't find a terminal type on > HP/UX that matches the FreeBSD console exactly. 'ansi' appears to be close, Run ``screen'' (pkg_add -r screen) on the FreeBSD console. Then set your TERM=vt100 and connect to the HP-UX box. Make sure TERM=vt100 there. All should work fine. -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 2 5:56:34 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from plamen.bgstore.com (bgstore.digsys.bg [193.68.22.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6C5337B5C1 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 05:56:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from plamendp@plamen.bgstore.com) Received: from localhost (plamendp@localhost) by plamen.bgstore.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA10946 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 15:54:20 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from plamendp@plamen.bgstore.com) Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 15:54:20 +0300 (EEST) From: Plamen Petkov To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: making a RELEASE In-Reply-To: <200008021240.OAA36034@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG From all of this 'make a RELEASE' threath I realize the following: 1. I cvsup-ed all the sources 2. I made the world succesfully - i feel fine, i have a -STABLE FreeBSD, working just as expected, I am happy with my STABLE FreeBSD :-) etc.. 3. However I can not have it on a CD, just to have it on a safe place ? Just imagine: some big crash and I have to start again from my last FreeBSD Release (currently 4.0-R on a CDROM I purchased from www.cdrom.com) step by step toward 'current' -STABLE ... Well, well, FreeBSD Core & Developer Team :-) I know, things like that happens and ... well, friend, yes, 'start again'... but... any workaround ? ----------------------------------- Plamen D. Petkov (ICQ 2214327 [pdp]) plamendp@bgstore.com FBiS First Bulgarian Internet Store http://www.bgstore.com ----------------------------------- On Wed, 2 Aug 2000, Oliver Fromme wrote: > the images. No problem at all. I've done it a thousand > times. > > Regards > Oliver > > -- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 2 5:58:16 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from exchange.mistral.co.uk (gate.mistral.co.uk [195.184.225.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B746537B7ED; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 05:58:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hdm@mistral.co.uk) Received: from bizboz.mistral.co.uk ([195.184.225.25]) by exchange.mistral.co.uk with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2448.0) id PLBL6CD7; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 13:50:42 +0100 Received: by bizboz.mistral.co.uk (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 2120737C; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 13:58:01 +0100 (BST) Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 13:58:00 +0100 From: Dominic Mitchell To: David O'Brien Cc: Sean Kelly , questions@FreeBSD.ORG, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD Console Message-ID: <20000802135800.B1161@bizboz.mistral.co.uk> References: <20000728100018.A12519@edgemaster.zombie.org> <20000802054410.C8263@dragon.nuxi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <20000802054410.C8263@dragon.nuxi.com>; from obrien@FreeBSD.ORG on Wed, Aug 02, 2000 at 05:44:10AM -0700 X-Warning: Incoming message from The Big Giant Head! X-OS: FreeBSD 4.1-RC i386 X-Uptime: 1:44PM up 12 days, 21:20, 8 users, load averages: 0.22, 0.10, 0.17 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Aug 02, 2000 at 05:44:10AM -0700, David O'Brien wrote: > On Fri, Jul 28, 2000 at 10:00:18AM -0500, Sean Kelly wrote: > > and productive, but I have one problem. We have many HP/UX machines, and > > I am constantly connecting to them. I can't find a terminal type on > > HP/UX that matches the FreeBSD console exactly. 'ansi' appears to be close, > > Run ``screen'' (pkg_add -r screen) on the FreeBSD console. Then set your > TERM=vt100 and connect to the HP-UX box. Make sure TERM=vt100 there. > All should work fine. An alternative is to take a copy of the cons25 entries from /usr/share/misc/termcap and use captoinfo(1) on the HP-UX box to translate from termcap to terminfo. Then use tic(1) to compile them (you may need to be root at this point - or set TERMINFO to point somewhere you have write access to). After that, HPUX should recognise the FreeBSD console type, "cons25". A final alternative might be to recompile your kernel with pcvt instead of syscons. That'll give you a vt220 by default. But I'm not sure how well supported that is these days (probably fine; I just haven't heard of anyone using it in a while). -Dom To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 2 5:59:23 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from earth.isni.net (earth.isni.net [208.160.180.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F62C37B7ED for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 05:59:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from zombie@isni.net) Received: from planet.isni.net (planet.isni.net [208.160.180.236]) by earth.isni.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id e72Cx4x28484 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 08:59:04 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.0.20000802085726.00b1c4e0@mail.isni.net> X-Sender: zombie@mail.isni.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 08:59:02 -0400 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org From: Zombie Subject: BuildWorld Fails....Please Advise Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=====================_3221748==_.ALT" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --=====================_3221748==_.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed I have been trying to buildworld for about a week now. I was getting a file exists error during libperl compile but after makeing clean and deleting the /usr/obj I now get this ******************************************************** sh config_h.sh Extracting config.h (with variable substitutions) rm -f .depend mkdep -f .depend -a -I/usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5 -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/perl.c /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/gv.c /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/toke.c /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/perly.c /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/op.c /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/regcomp.c /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/dump.c /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/util.c /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/mg.c /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/byterun.c /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/hv.c /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/av.c /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/run.c /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/pp_hot.c /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/sv.c /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/pp.c /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/scope.c /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/pp_ctl.c /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/pp_sys.c /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/doop.c /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/doio.c /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/regexec.c /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/taint.c /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/deb.c /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/universal.c /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/globals.c /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/perlio.c cd /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl; make _EXTRADEPEND cc -O -pipe -I/usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5 -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include -c /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/perl.c -o perl.o cc -O -pipe -I/usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5 -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include -c /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/gv.c -o gv.o cc -O -pipe -I/usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5 -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include -c /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/toke.c -o toke.o *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. ******************************************************** Sorry if that was too much. Personally I am fairly new at this but I have had the help of my sys-admin and we can't find anything. If you need a full transcript of the buildworld I am able to supply. Can you please advise as to what can fix this. Thanks, Don --=====================_3221748==_.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable         I have been trying to buildworld for about a week now.  I was getting a file exists error during libperl compile but after makeing clean and deleting the /usr/obj I now get this

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sh config_h.sh
Extracting config.h (with variable substitutions)
rm -f .depend
mkdep -f .depend -a    -I/usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5 -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include  /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/perl.c /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/gv.c /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/toke.c /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/perly.c /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/op.c /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/regcomp.c /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/dump.c /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/util.c /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/mg.c /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/byterun.c /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/hv.c /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/av.c /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/run.c /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/pp_hot.c /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/sv.c /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/pp.c /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/scope.c /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/pp_ctl.c /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/pp_sys.c /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/doop.c /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/doio.c /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/regexec.c /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/taint.c /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/deb.c /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/universal.c /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/globals.c /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/perlio.c
cd /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl; make _EXTRADEPEND
cc -O -pipe -I/usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5 -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include -c /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/perl.c -o perl.o
cc -O -pipe -I/usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5 -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include -c /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/gv.c -o gv.o
cc -O -pipe -I/usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5 -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include -c /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/toke.c -o toke.o
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/src.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/src.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/src.
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Sorry if that was too much.  Personally I am fairly new at this but I have had the help of my sys-admin and we can't find anything.  If you need a full transcript of the buildworld I am able to supply.  Can you please advise as to what can fix this.

Thanks,
Don

--=====================_3221748==_.ALT-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 2 6: 5:26 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.mdanderson.org (mail.mdacc.tmc.edu [143.111.87.47]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D03337BA93 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 06:05:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fosburgh@flash.net) Received: from jefnt (jef-nt.mdacc.tmc.edu [143.111.64.202]) by mail.mdanderson.org (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with SMTP id IAA21337; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 08:02:07 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <024701bffc82$507eab90$ca406f8f@mdacc.tmc.edu> From: "Jonathan Fosburgh" To: , "Zombie" References: <4.3.2.7.0.20000802085726.00b1c4e0@mail.isni.net> Subject: Re: BuildWorld Fails....Please Advise Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 08:05:21 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I am having this problem, when I have time to do it again, I rm'd perl5 and am reCVSuping and then I will try again, I will try to post my results if it succeeds. Jonathan Fosburgh Open Systems Communications and Computer Services UT MD Anderson Cancer Center Houston, TX 77030 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Zombie" To: Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2000 7:59 AM Subject: BuildWorld Fails....Please Advise > I have been trying to buildworld for about a week now. I was > getting a file exists error during libperl compile but after makeing clean > and deleting the /usr/obj I now get this > > ******************************************************** > sh config_h.sh > Extracting config.h (with variable substitutions) > rm -f .depend > mkdep -f .depend -a -I/usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl > -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5 > -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include > /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/perl.c > /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/gv.c > /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/toke.c > /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/perly.c > /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/op.c > /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/regcomp.c > /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/dump.c > /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/util.c > /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/mg.c > /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/byterun.c > /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/hv.c > /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/av.c > /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/run.c > /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/pp_hot.c > /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/sv.c > /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/pp.c > /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/scope.c > /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/pp_ctl.c > /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/pp_sys.c > /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/doop.c > /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/doio.c > /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/regexec.c > /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/taint.c > /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/deb.c > /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/universal.c > /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/globals.c > /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/perlio.c > cd /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl; make _EXTRADEPEND > cc -O -pipe -I/usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl > -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5 > -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include -c > /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/perl.c -o perl.o > cc -O -pipe -I/usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl > -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5 > -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include -c > /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/gv.c -o gv.o > cc -O -pipe -I/usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl > -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5 > -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include -c > /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/toke.c -o toke.o > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src. > ******************************************************** > > > > Sorry if that was too much. Personally I am fairly new at this but I have > had the help of my sys-admin and we can't find anything. If you need a > full transcript of the buildworld I am able to supply. Can you please > advise as to what can fix this. > > Thanks, > Don > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 2 6:16:46 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from castle.jp.freebsd.org (castle.jp.FreeBSD.org [210.226.20.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1303537B5C1 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 06:16:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from matusita@jp.freebsd.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by castle.jp.freebsd.org (8.9.3+3.2W/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA29297 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 22:16:40 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from matusita@jp.FreeBSD.org) In-Reply-To: <20000802051948.B8263@dragon.nuxi.com> References: <20000802051948.B8263@dragon.nuxi.com> X-Face: '*aj"d@ijeQ:/X}]oM5c5Uz{ZZZk90WPt>a^y4$cGQp8:!H\W=hSM;PuNiidkc]/%,;6VGu e+`&APmz|P;F~OL/QK%;P2vU>\j4X.8@i%j6[%DTs_3J,Fff0)*oHg$A.cDm&jc#pD24WK@{,"Ef!0 P\):.2}8jo-BiZ?X&t$V X-User-Agent: Mew/1.94.2 XEmacs/21.2 (Molpe) X-FaceAnim: (-O_O-)(O_O- )(_O- )(O- )(- -)( -O)( -O_)( -O_O)(-O_O-) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Dispatcher: imput version 20000228(IM140) Lines: 40 From: Makoto MATSUSHITA To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: making a RELEASE [should make buildworld made before?] Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 22:16:35 +0900 Message-Id: <20000802221635Y.matusita@jp.FreeBSD.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG obrien> However, today's buildworld is more resilent having better obrien> build-tools, etc.. targets than when release/Makefile was obrien> first written. Maybe this need could be removed. But this obrien> hasn't happened yet. If I understand the facts of src/release/Makefile correctly, - First 'make installworld' under /usr/src is for "creating a chroot environment for further release engineering." Maybe it can be supercedesed by copying existing environment or just extracting 'bin' distribution. But there is no tool for this. - Second 'make buildworld' inside a chroot environment is the actual build procedure. Obviously, it cannot remove :-) - Second 'make installworld' inside a chroot environment is for "creating an environment for further _actual_ release procedures." Even though we have much much better procedures for build-tools, _actual_ release procedures (release.[1-9], doc.?, cdrom.?, and ftp.? target in src/release/Makefile) does not consider about that. If these procedures requires newer version of toolchain, it should be a release-breaker. As a result, 1) we can remove first 'make buildworld/installworld' - if there is an another way to build a chroot environment (e.g., copy distributions, use existing environment), or - if we have a tool to create a chroot environment from existing environment (maybe it also helps jail(8) users). 2) we can remove second 'make installworld' - if all tools used in actual release procedure depend on the ones which are build by previous 'make buildworld'. Maybe 1) is easy, 2) is a little bit difficult to do... -- - Makoto `MAR' MATSUSHITA To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 2 6:21:37 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.gmx.net (pop.gmx.net [194.221.183.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 94ADA37BB60 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 06:21:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Gerhard.Sittig@gmx.net) Received: (qmail 2657 invoked by uid 0); 2 Aug 2000 13:21:28 -0000 Received: from pc19f5d45.dip.t-dialin.net (HELO speedy.gsinet) (193.159.93.69) by mail.gmx.net with SMTP; 2 Aug 2000 13:21:28 -0000 Received: (from sittig@localhost) by speedy.gsinet (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA07893 for stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 06:48:20 +0200 Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 06:48:19 +0200 From: Gerhard Sittig To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: sendmail 8.11.0 Message-ID: <20000802064819.W24476@speedy.gsinet> Mail-Followup-To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20000801155735.B97403@bizboz.mistral.co.uk> <200008012003.e71K3wd41491@fedde.littleton.co.us> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <200008012003.e71K3wd41491@fedde.littleton.co.us>; from chris@fedde.littleton.co.us on Tue, Aug 01, 2000 at 02:03:57PM -0600 Organization: System Defenestrators Inc. Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Aug 01, 2000 at 14:03 -0600, Chris Fedde wrote: > On Tue, 1 Aug 2000 15:57:35 +0100 Dominic Mitchell wrote: > > > On the contrary - I find it a complete godsend. It makes > > replacing the standard sendmail with a port/package and > > absolute breeze. It's far nicer than having each port hack > > around in /usr/sbin for no good reason. > > My point is that there is a perfectly good mechinism in > existance to allow switching between MTA. The rc.conf > mechinism works well and is consistant for all other components > of the system. In this one case we add a layer of indirection > below rc.conf. MUAs don't know about rc.conf. :) > Why not simply use something like > > mta_enable="YES" > mta=/usr/sbin/sendmail > or > mta_ena > mta=/usr/sbin/qmail > > and the appropriate frag in /etc/rc to work with this That's just starting the SMTP daemon. What about sending local / remote mail using the usual "/usr/sbin/sendmail -oi -t" command line? What has been said before: Try to use something different from sendmail and suddenly you will see what mailwrapper is good for! Or try to use a different sendmail from what comes with the base system (like from ports or "self produced and bottled") while still updating your base. I would even dare to say NO_MAILWRAPPER(sp?) shouldn't be there and there should be /etc/mail/mailer.conf only instead of NO_SENDMAIL, but that's for traditional reasons I guess. Installing your mailer _anywhere_ and using mailer.conf as the only resource to tell which one to use would be the easiest and most flexible solution IMO for _everybody_ -- or did I miss something? Where is this mechanism still not enough? I can't think of a situation. virtually yours 82D1 9B9C 01DC 4FB4 D7B4 61BE 3F49 4F77 72DE DA76 Gerhard Sittig true | mail -s "get gpg key" Gerhard.Sittig@gmx.net -- If you don't understand or are scared by any of the above ask your parents or an adult to help you. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 2 6:40:19 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from csmd2.cs.uni-magdeburg.de (csmd2.CS.Uni-Magdeburg.De [141.44.22.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D657837B9AA for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 06:40:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jesse@mail.CS.Uni-Magdeburg.De) Received: from knecht.cs.uni-magdeburg.de (jesse@knecht [141.44.21.3]) by csmd2.cs.uni-magdeburg.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA29915 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 15:40:09 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from jesse@localhost) by knecht.cs.uni-magdeburg.de (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) id PAA19296; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 15:39:28 +0200 (MET DST) X-Authentication-Warning: knecht.cs.uni-magdeburg.de: jesse set sender to jesse@cs.uni-magdeburg.de using -f To: FreeBSD-stable Subject: Change in honoring /sys/conf/files with (new) buildkernel target? From: Roland Jesse Date: 02 Aug 2000 15:39:28 +0200 Message-ID: <0vk8dzeq9b.fsf@cs.uni-magdeburg.de> Lines: 33 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0807 (Gnus v5.8.7) Emacs/20.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG As -multimedia doesn't seem to be the best place for this, I will retry here. After switching from the historically way of building my kernel to buildkernel, my sound support is gone. As I have a card with an Aureal chip, I always uncomment the aureal.c line in /sys/conf/files after updating /usr/src using cvsup. The card is recognized. 'cat /dev/sndstat' says: --- snip --- FreeBSD Audio Driver (newpcm) Jul 31 2000 17:48:27 Installed devices: pcm0: at memory 0xde800000 irq 10 (1p/0r channels duplex) --- snip --- The point is: --- snip --- % mpg123 whatever.mp3 High Performance MPEG 1.0/2.0/2.5 Audio Player for Layer 1, 2 and 3. Version 0.59r (1999/Jun/15). Written and copyrights by Michael Hipp. Uses code from various people. See 'README' for more! THIS SOFTWARE COMES WITH ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY! USE AT YOUR OWN RISK! Can't open /dev/dsp! --- snip --- The usual 'cd /dev; sh MAKEDEV all; sh MAKEDEV snd0' is done. Any hints are welcome and appreciated. Roland To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 2 6:46:23 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de (dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de [139.174.243.252]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD5BA37B957 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 06:46:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from olli@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de) Received: (from olli@localhost) by dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA37121; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 15:46:07 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from olli) Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 15:46:07 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <200008021346.PAA37121@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de> From: Oliver Fromme To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: making a RELEASE X-Newsgroups: list.freebsd-stable In-Reply-To: <8m95uf$af4$1@atlantis.rz.tu-clausthal.de> Organization: Administration TU Clausthal MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: tin/1.4.1-19991201 ("Polish") (UNIX) (FreeBSD/3.4-19991219-STABLE (i386)) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In list.freebsd-stable Plamen Petkov wrote: > From all of this 'make a RELEASE' threath I realize the following: > > 1. I cvsup-ed all the sources If you intend to "make release", then that's not enough. You need the full CVS repository, not just a checked-out source tree. On the other hand, you could hack the release Makefile to just copy /usr/src instead of checking it out from the repository (obviously, this only works if yout /usr/src is exactly the same version as the release that you're going to make, but this is usually the case). I've done that before. It also speeds up the "make release" quite a bit. > 3. However I can not have it on a CD, just to have it on a safe place ? > > Just imagine: some big crash and I have to start again from my last > FreeBSD Release (currently 4.0-R on a CDROM I purchased from > www.cdrom.com) step by step toward 'current' -STABLE ... It is just one step. Install from your 4.0-R CD (soon to be 4.1-R, I guess), then CVSup -stable, make world, done. Apart from that: You do have a backup, don't you? So in case of a serious crash, you can just restore from your backup. That's what backups are good for. ;-) Regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme, Leibnizstr. 18/61, 38678 Clausthal, Germany (Info: finger userinfo:olli@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de) Addresses will change soon!! If in doubt: www.fromme.com "In jedem Stück Kohle wartet ein Diamant auf seine Geburt" (Terry Pratchett) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 2 6:54:49 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from team7.cba.ualr.edu (team7.cba.ualr.edu [144.167.120.24]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8ED7837B6CB for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 06:54:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from joe@team7.cba.ualr.edu) Received: (from joe@localhost) by team7.cba.ualr.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA01923; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 08:54:40 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from joe) Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 08:54:40 -0500 From: Joe To: Robert Augustine Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Two Small Questions. Message-ID: <20000802085440.A1846@team7.cba.ualr.edu> References: <000901bffc51$dc8de320$0200000a@cm.420.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <000901bffc51$dc8de320$0200000a@cm.420.net>; from raugustine@reflectively.net on Wed, Aug 02, 2000 at 03:18:26AM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Aug 02, 2000 at 03:18:26AM -0400, Robert Augustine wrote: > Hello, > I have two questions that I need to get a good answer on. I recently > purchased a SIIG AP-40 UltraWide SCSI controller. It has the initio chipset > and I was wondering if it is compatible with Freebsd, and if so what device > do I have to enable in the kernel config? Take a look at http://innominate.org/~tgr/projects/FreeBSD/iha/ HTH -Joe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 2 6:59:40 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rhymer.cogsci.ed.ac.uk (rhymer.cogsci.ed.ac.uk [129.215.144.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C744137B7B0 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 06:59:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from richard@cogsci.ed.ac.uk) Received: (from richard@localhost) by rhymer.cogsci.ed.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA24637; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 14:59:27 +0100 (BST) Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 14:59:27 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: <200008021359.OAA24637@rhymer.cogsci.ed.ac.uk> From: Richard Tobin Subject: Is VIA DMA reliable now? To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Organization: just say no Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG A few months ago there were a lot of messages about disk corruption when using DMA with some (?) VIA ATA chipsets. Is this fixed in 4.1? -- Richard To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 2 7:36:26 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from sb.net (sb.net [209.241.234.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82E3E37B68A for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 07:36:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from thiago@ecommerceland.com) Received: from halfton (ageis.sb.net [207.115.235.226]) by sb.net (8.9.3/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA56682 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 07:36:05 -0700 (PDT) From: "Thiago Modelli" To: Subject: Mylex problem Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 07:28:27 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hey guys, I've been using freebsd for a while now but i'm having problems with Raid card. I got a AcceleRAID 250 runing under FreeBSD 4.1. I called mylex and them told me to make my drives "Hot Swap in real time" i have to install the GAM program. But they don't provide it. Do your guys know any replacement to it ? Thank you Thiago Modelli ================================================== Thiago Modelli - Systems Administrator P: (805) 964-3313 Ex. 101 Fax: (805) 964-6968 thiago@ecommerceland.com -- www.eCommerceland.com eCommerceland, Inc - building online businesses Creators of Warp 9® ICS ================================================== To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 2 7:41:56 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from csmd2.cs.uni-magdeburg.de (csmd2.CS.Uni-Magdeburg.De [141.44.22.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1A1737B68A for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 07:41:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jesse@mail.CS.Uni-Magdeburg.De) Received: from knecht.cs.uni-magdeburg.de (jesse@knecht [141.44.21.3]) by csmd2.cs.uni-magdeburg.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA00767 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 16:41:42 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from jesse@localhost) by knecht.cs.uni-magdeburg.de (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) id QAA19558; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 16:41:01 +0200 (MET DST) X-Authentication-Warning: knecht.cs.uni-magdeburg.de: jesse set sender to jesse@cs.uni-magdeburg.de using -f To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Change in honoring /sys/conf/files with (new) buildkernel target? References: <0vk8dzeq9b.fsf@cs.uni-magdeburg.de> From: Roland Jesse In-Reply-To: Roland Jesse's message of "02 Aug 2000 15:39:28 +0200" Date: 02 Aug 2000 16:41:01 +0200 Message-ID: <0v8zufybcy.fsf@cs.uni-magdeburg.de> Lines: 11 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0807 (Gnus v5.8.7) Emacs/20.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I wrote: > As I have a card with an Aureal chip, I always uncomment the aureal.c > line in /sys/conf/files after updating /usr/src using cvsup. The problem can be solved using the Areal driver from . Thanks to Mike Murphree who pointed that out. Roland To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 2 8:37: 2 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from alpha.root-servers.ch (alpha.root-servers.ch [195.49.62.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D862737B8E0 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 08:36:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gabriel_ambuehl@buz.ch) Received: (qmail 11385 invoked from network); 2 Aug 2000 15:36:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO 10.2.2.100) (62.2.98.229) by ns1.root-servers.ch with SMTP; 2 Aug 2000 15:36:50 -0000 Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 17:38:06 +0200 From: Gabriel Ambuehl X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.45 Beta/6) Personal Organization: BUZ Internet Services X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <109111045585.20000802173806@buz.ch> To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: make buildkernel broken? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, cc -c -O -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -fformat-extensions -ansi -nostdinc -I- -I. -I/usr/src/sys -I/usr/src/sys/../include -D_KERNEL -include opt_global.h -elf -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 /usr/src/sys/netinet/tcp_output.c cc -c -O -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -fformat-extensions -ansi -nostdinc -I- -I. -I/usr/src/sys -I/usr/src/sys/../include -D_KERNEL -include opt_global.h -elf -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 /usr/src/sys/netinet/tcp_subr.c cc -c -O -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -fformat-extensions -ansi -nostdinc -I- -I. -I/usr/src/sys -I/usr/src/sys/../include -D_KERNEL -include opt_global.h -elf -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 /usr/src/sys/netinet/tcp_timer.c cc -c -O -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -fformat-extensions -ansi -nostdinc -I- -I. -I/usr/src/sys -I/usr/src/sys/../include -D_KERNEL -include opt_global.h -elf -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 /usr/src/sys/netinet/tcp_usrreq.c cc -c -O -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -fformat-extensions -ansi -nostdinc -I- -I. -I/usr/src/sys -I/usr/src/sys/../include -D_KERNEL -include opt_global.h -elf -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 /usr/src/sys/netinet/udp_usrreq.c cc -c -O -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -fformat-extensions -ansi -nostdinc -I- -I. -I/usr/src/sys -I/usr/src/sys/../include -D_KERNEL -include opt_global.h -elf -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 /usr/src/sys/nfs/nfs_bio.c cc -c -O -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -fformat-extensions -ansi -nostdinc -I- -I. -I/usr/src/sys -I/usr/src/sys/../include -D_KERNEL -include opt_global.h -elf -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 /usr/src/sys/nfs/nfs_node.c cc -c -O -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -fformat-extensions -ansi -nostdinc -I- -I. -I/usr/src/sys -I/usr/src/sys/../include -D_KERNEL -include opt_global.h -elf -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 /usr/src/sys/nfs/nfs_nqlease.c cc -c -O -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -fformat-extensions -ansi -nostdinc -I- -I. -I/usr/src/sys -I/usr/src/sys/../include -D_KERNEL -include opt_global.h -elf -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 /usr/src/sys/nfs/nfs_serv.c cc -c -O -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -fformat-extensions -ansi -nostdinc -I- -I. -I/usr/src/sys -I/usr/src/sys/../include -D_KERNEL -include opt_global.h -elf -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 /usr/src/sys/nfs/nfs_socket.c cc -c -O -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -fformat-extensions -ansi -nostdinc -I- -I. -I/usr/src/sys -I/usr/src/sys/../include -D_KERNEL -include opt_global.h -elf -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 /usr/src/sys/nfs/nfs_srvcache.c cc -c -O -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -fformat-extensions -ansi -nostdinc -I- -I. -I/usr/src/sys -I/usr/src/sys/../include -D_KERNEL -include opt_global.h -elf -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 /usr/src/sys/nfs/nfs_subs.c cc -c -O -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -fformat-extensions -ansi -nostdinc -I- -I. -I/usr/src/sys -I/usr/src/sys/../include -D_KERNEL -include opt_global.h -elf -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 /usr/src/sys/nfs/nfs_syscalls.c cc -c -O -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -fformat-extensions -ansi -nostdinc -I- -I. -I/usr/src/sys -I/usr/src/sys/../include -D_KERNEL -include opt_global.h -elf -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 /usr/src/sys/nfs/nfs_vfsops.c cc -c -O -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -fformat-extensions -ansi -nostdinc -I- -I. -I/usr/src/sys -I/usr/src/sys/../include -D_KERNEL -include opt_global.h -elf -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 /usr/src/sys/nfs/nfs_vnops.c cc -c -O -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -fformat-extensions -ansi -nostdinc -I- -I. -I/usr/src/sys -I/usr/src/sys/../include -D_KERNEL -include opt_global.h -elf -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 /usr/src/sys/pci/if_dc.c /usr/src/sys/pci/if_dc.c: In function `dc_setcfg': /usr/src/sys/pci/if_dc.c:1224: `DC_WDOG_CTLWREN' undeclared (first use in this function) /usr/src/sys/pci/if_dc.c:1224: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once /usr/src/sys/pci/if_dc.c:1224: for each function it appears in.) *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/ffnonwpboxes. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. Cvsup started at 15:06 GMT didn't help as well. UT_NAMESIZE and MAXLOGNAME are patched to be 31 and 32 chars long but this never caused any problems so far. The config file was changed to include options EXT2FS but reinstalling the backup of it I did before this change didn't change anything. Best regards, Gabriel To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 2 8:47:52 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from kci.kciLink.com (kci.kciLink.com [204.117.82.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8711437BB2A for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 08:47:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from khera@kciLink.com) Received: from onceler.kcilink.com (onceler.kciLink.com [204.117.82.2]) by kci.kciLink.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BB93E8D6 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 11:47:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from khera@localhost) by onceler.kcilink.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA27582; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 11:47:47 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from khera@kci.kcilink.com) From: Vivek Khera MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14728.17059.253631.68029@onceler.kcilink.com> Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 11:47:47 -0400 (EDT) To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: sendmail 8.11.0 In-Reply-To: <200008012003.e71K3wd41491@fedde.littleton.co.us> References: <20000801155735.B97403@bizboz.mistral.co.uk> <200008012003.e71K3wd41491@fedde.littleton.co.us> X-Mailer: VM 6.72 under 21.1 (patch 10) "Capitol Reef" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >>>>> "CF" == Chris Fedde writes: CF> Why not simply use something like CF> mta_enable="YES" CF> mta=/usr/sbin/sendmail CF> or CF> mta_ena CF> mta=/usr/sbin/qmail SO what happens when your MUA invokes /usr/sbin/sendmail directly to send a message and you're running qmail? You *have* to replace the /usr/sbin/sendmail file with something appropriate for your MTA of choice. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 2 9: 8:57 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freeway.dcfinc.com (cx74889-a.phnx3.az.home.com [24.1.193.157]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63B0C37B70C for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 09:08:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chad@freeway.dcfinc.com) Received: (from chad@localhost) by freeway.dcfinc.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA17692; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 09:08:52 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from chad) From: "Chad R. Larson" Message-Id: <200008021608.JAA17692@freeway.dcfinc.com> Subject: Re: Upgrade info request (fwd) In-Reply-To: from Chris BeHanna at "Aug 2, 0 01:29:29 am" To: behanna@zbzoom.net Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 09:08:52 -0700 (MST) Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: chad@DCFinc.com Organization: DCF, Inc. X-O/S: FreeBSD 2.2.8-STABLE X-Unexpected: The Spanish Inquisition X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL40 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG As I recall, Chris BeHanna wrote: > First of all "CVS" is a source code control system that allows files > to be stored in versions. What it does is store a base revision, and > then it stores the changes that are needed to alter the file to the > next revision (and the next, and the next, and so on to the most > recent, or "head" revision). Minor nit. While SCCS keeps a base and then deltas to it, RCS and CVS keep the most current version and the changes that created it. The idea is that the most frequent checkout is for the latest version, so that should be the easiest to do. SCCS can take a while to run when checking out, say, version 1.975.54. -crl -- Chad R. Larson (CRL15) 602-953-1392 Brother, can you paradigm? chad@dcfinc.com chad@larsons.org larson1@home.net DCF, Inc. - 14623 North 49th Place, Scottsdale, Arizona 85254-2207 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 2 9:10:53 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from caffeine.gerp.org (caffeine.gerp.org [216.80.26.45]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5C67437BCA2 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 09:10:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kdulzo@caffeine.gerp.org) Received: (qmail 1323 invoked by uid 100); 2 Aug 2000 15:58:19 -0000 Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 10:58:19 -0500 From: "Kevin M. Dulzo" To: Vivek Khera Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: sendmail 8.11.0 Message-ID: <20000802105819.A8231@caffeine.gerp.org> Reply-To: kdulzo@gerp.org References: <20000801155735.B97403@bizboz.mistral.co.uk> <200008012003.e71K3wd41491@fedde.littleton.co.us> <14728.17059.253631.68029@onceler.kcilink.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <14728.17059.253631.68029@onceler.kcilink.com>; from khera@kciLink.com on Wed, Aug 02, 2000 at 11:47:47AM -0400 X-Operating-System: OpenBSD caffeine 2.7 CAFFEINE Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Aug 02, 2000 at 11:47:47AM -0400, Vivek Khera wrote: > > You *have* to replace the /usr/sbin/sendmail file with something > appropriate for your MTA of choice. > > No you don't. /usr/sbin/sendmail is now mailwrapper. I have been running qmail with mailiwrapper quite successfully for almost as long as it existed in stable. If you don't want the sendmail bits lying around add NO_SENDMAIL=YES to make.conf. Wether or not the sendmail bits exist on your installation you edit /etc/mail/mailer.conf. e.g. sendmail /var/qmail/bin/sendmail send-mail /var/qmail/bin/sendmail mailq /var/qmail/bin/qmail-qstat newaliases /usr/bin/false I don't like the sendmail bits around, but I like the mailwrapper. You can have 6 different MTAs around and flip them around for the entire system with these tuneable knobs. -- :Kevin M. Dulzo:ccna.ccda:freebsd:everything_else: --eyes betray a soul and bear its thinking --beyond words they say so many things to me To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 2 9:32:30 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gateway.mindmaker.com (gateway.mindmaker.com [209.66.98.130]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B531E37C138 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 09:32:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bbeck@mindmaker.com) Received: (from root@localhost) by gateway.mindmaker.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) id JAA03111 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 09:32:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.int.mindmaker.com(192.168.10.10) by gateway.mindmaker.com via smap (V2.0) id xma003105; Wed, 2 Aug 00 09:31:50 -0700 Received: from mindmaker.com (bbeck.int.mindmaker.com [192.168.10.31]) by mail.int.mindmaker.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA78205; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 09:32:57 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <39884D19.397705B3@mindmaker.com> Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 09:32:25 -0700 From: Bernhard Beck Organization: Mindmaker, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Internal compiler error during make buildworld? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, I'm trying to go from 4.0-RELEASE to 4-STABLE (RELENG_4). cvsup went fine, however I'm getting an internal compiler error while compiling openssl: make buildworld ... [after quite some time of happily compiling] ... cc -fpic -DPIC -O -pipe -DTERMIOS -DANSI_SOURCE -DNO_IDEA -I/usr/src/secure/lib/libcrypto/../../../crypto/openssl/crypto -I/usr/obj/usr/src/secure/lib/libcrypto -DL_ENDIAN -DDEVRANDOM=\"/dev/urandom\" -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include -c /usr/src/secure/lib/libcrypto/../../../crypto/openssl/crypto/evp/e_xcbc_d.c -o e_xcbc_d.So cc -fpic -DPIC -O -pipe -DTERMIOS -DANSI_SOURCE -DNO_IDEA -I/usr/src/secure/lib/libcrypto/../../../crypto/openssl/crypto -I/usr/obj/usr/src/secure/lib/libcrypto -DL_ENDIAN -DDEVRANDOM=\"/dev/urandom\" -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include -c /usr/src/secure/lib/libcrypto/../../../crypto/openssl/crypto/evp/encode.c -o encode.So cc -fpic -DPIC -O -pipe -DTERMIOS -DANSI_SOURCE -DNO_IDEA -I/usr/src/secure/lib/libcrypto/../../../crypto/openssl/crypto -I/usr/obj/usr/src/secure/lib/libcrypto -DL_ENDIAN -DDEVRANDOM=\"/dev/urandom\" -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include -c /usr/src/secure/lib/libcrypto/../../../crypto/openssl/crypto/evp/evp_enc.c -o evp_enc.So cc -fpic -DPIC -O -pipe -DTERMIOS -DANSI_SOURCE -DNO_IDEA -I/usr/src/secure/lib/libcrypto/../../../crypto/openssl/crypto -I/usr/obj/usr/src/secure/lib/libcrypto -DL_ENDIAN -DDEVRANDOM=\"/dev/urandom\" -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include -c /usr/src/secure/lib/libcrypto/../../../crypto/openssl/crypto/evp/evp_err.c -o evp_err.So cc -fpic -DPIC -O -pipe -DTERMIOS -DANSI_SOURCE -DNO_IDEA -I/usr/src/secure/lib/libcrypto/../../../crypto/openssl/crypto -I/usr/obj/usr/src/secure/lib/libcrypto -DL_ENDIAN -DDEVRANDOM=\"/dev/urandom\" -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include -c /usr/src/secure/lib/libcrypto/../../../crypto/openssl/crypto/evp/evp_key.c -o evp_key.So cc -fpic -DPIC -O -pipe -DTERMIOS -DANSI_SOURCE -DNO_IDEA -I/usr/src/secure/lib/libcrypto/../../../crypto/openssl/crypto -I/usr/obj/usr/src/secure/lib/libcrypto -DL_ENDIAN -DDEVRANDOM=\"/dev/urandom\" -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include -c /usr/src/secure/lib/libcrypto/../../../crypto/openssl/crypto/evp/evp_lib.c -o evp_lib.So cc -fpic -DPIC -O -pipe -DTERMIOS -DANSI_SOURCE -DNO_IDEA -I/usr/src/secure/lib/libcrypto/../../../crypto/openssl/crypto -I/usr/obj/usr/src/secure/lib/libcrypto -DL_ENDIAN -DDEVRANDOM=\"/dev/urandom\" -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include -c /usr/src/secure/lib/libcrypto/../../../crypto/openssl/crypto/evp/evp_pbe.c -o evp_pbe.So cc -fpic -DPIC -O -pipe -DTERMIOS -DANSI_SOURCE -DNO_IDEA -I/usr/src/secure/lib/libcrypto/../../../crypto/openssl/crypto -I/usr/obj/usr/src/secure/lib/libcrypto -DL_ENDIAN -DDEVRANDOM=\"/dev/urandom\" -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include -c /usr/src/secure/lib/libcrypto/../../../crypto/openssl/crypto/evp/evp_pkey.c -o evp_pkey.So cc: Internal compiler error: program cpp got fatal signal 9 *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/secure/lib/libcrypto. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/secure/lib. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. Any ideas what may go wrong here? Did I miss something? Thanks, Bernhard To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 2 9:44:42 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from kci.kciLink.com (kci.kciLink.com [204.117.82.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9EAC37B971 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 09:44:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from khera@kciLink.com) Received: from onceler.kcilink.com (onceler.kciLink.com [204.117.82.2]) by kci.kciLink.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38646E8D6; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 12:44:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from khera@localhost) by onceler.kcilink.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA39593; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 12:44:33 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from khera@kci.kcilink.com) From: Vivek Khera MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14728.20464.974269.675647@onceler.kcilink.com> Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 12:44:32 -0400 (EDT) To: kdulzo@gerp.org Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: sendmail 8.11.0 In-Reply-To: <20000802105819.A8231@caffeine.gerp.org> References: <20000801155735.B97403@bizboz.mistral.co.uk> <200008012003.e71K3wd41491@fedde.littleton.co.us> <14728.17059.253631.68029@onceler.kcilink.com> <20000802105819.A8231@caffeine.gerp.org> X-Mailer: VM 6.72 under 21.1 (patch 10) "Capitol Reef" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >>>>> "KMD" == Kevin M Dulzo writes: KMD> On Wed, Aug 02, 2000 at 11:47:47AM -0400, Vivek Khera wrote: >> >> You *have* to replace the /usr/sbin/sendmail file with something >> appropriate for your MTA of choice. >> >> KMD> No you don't. /usr/sbin/sendmail is now mailwrapper. You must have missed the whole discussion. The person to whom I responded said that /usr/sbin/sendmail should be just that: sendmail not some wrapper. My point is that you have to replace /usr/sbin/sendmail with something if you're not running sendmail or some other app will run it for you. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 2 10: 9:31 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gateway.jumpweb.com (mgooderum1.dsl.uswest.net [209.180.19.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C701E37BBAB for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 10:09:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mark@JUMPWEB.COM) Received: from purgatory.jumpweb.com (purgatory [172.15.1.5]) by gateway.jumpweb.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA69406; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 12:09:04 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from mark@JUMPWEB.COM) Received: by purgatory.jumpweb.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 12:09:04 -0500 Message-ID: <251BF6012D6B4A49A4109B1C3289A7B5BB25@purgatory.jumpweb.com> From: "Gooderum, Mark" To: "'chad@DCFinc.com'" Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: Upgrade info request (fwd) Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 12:08:57 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01BFFCA4.5BE45533" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01BFFCA4.5BE45533 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Acutally to be exact RCS (and thus CVS) does keep negative deltas relative to the head of the main brach. However, branches are forward deltas from the branch point, which means reconstructing the head of a branch forces you to delta from the head of the mainline back down the tree to the branch point and then out the branch. This is one of the criticism's of RCS. -- Mark ------_=_NextPart_001_01BFFCA4.5BE45533 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: Upgrade info request (fwd)

Acutally to be exact RCS (and thus CVS) does keep = negative deltas relative to the head of the main brach.  However, = branches are forward deltas from the branch point, which means = reconstructing the head of a branch forces you to delta from the head = of the mainline back down the tree to the branch point and then out the = branch.  This is one of the criticism's of RCS.

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Mark

------_=_NextPart_001_01BFFCA4.5BE45533-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 2 10:38:16 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF75737C162 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 10:38:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA64935; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 11:38:03 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id LAA92698; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 11:37:44 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <200008021737.LAA92698@harmony.village.org> To: Siegbert Baude Subject: Re: Suggestion for change of /usr/src/UPDATING (was: Re: HEADS UP! Always use the 'make buildkernel' target to make yer kernels) Cc: "Corey G." , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 02 Aug 2000 04:39:09 +0200." <398789CD.2DADAB33@gmx.de> References: <398789CD.2DADAB33@gmx.de> <20000731030044.A17511@flashcom.net> <4.3.2.20000709232757.00b1e6a0@207.227.119.2> <200008012102.PAA86077@harmony.village.org> Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 11:37:44 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <398789CD.2DADAB33@gmx.de> Siegbert Baude writes: : And I think there is one line in "To update from 3.x to 4.0 stable", : which isn't correct (don't know exactly, as I never did this). Watch the : line marked with --> <-- : : : To update from 3.x to 4.0 stable : -------------------------------- : [3] : cd /usr/src : [2] : make buildworld : : cd /usr/src/sys/modules : make install : cd /usr/src/sbin/mknod : make install : [1] : --> reboot <-- : : cd /usr/src : cd gnu/usr.bin/texinfo/install-info : make install : cd ../../../.. : make installworld [5] : mergemaster [4] : reboot : : : : : This line should be "shutdown now", isn't it? Any further suggestions to : make life of Warner easier? No. It should be "reboot" since that's the simplest thing. "shutdown now" doesn't cause the machine to reboot, but merely causes the processor to halt. It is the same thing as "halt," unless you have users on the machine, in which case they will get a nice message before the machine dies.... I'll take a look the rest of what you sent. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 2 10:42:56 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 824EF37BD94 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 10:42:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA64971; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 11:42:47 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id LAA92757; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 11:42:28 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <200008021742.LAA92757@harmony.village.org> To: Roland Jesse Subject: Re: Suggestion for change of /usr/src/UPDATING (was: Re: HEADS UP! Always use the 'make buildkernel' target to make yer kernels) Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "02 Aug 2000 09:58:04 +0200." <0vd7jsf62b.fsf@cs.uni-magdeburg.de> References: <0vd7jsf62b.fsf@cs.uni-magdeburg.de> <20000731030044.A17511@flashcom.net> <4.3.2.20000709232757.00b1e6a0@207.227.119.2> <200008012102.PAA86077@harmony.village.org> <398789CD.2DADAB33@gmx.de> Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 11:42:28 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <0vd7jsf62b.fsf@cs.uni-magdeburg.de> Roland Jesse writes: : I am not in favour of putting *that* in UPDATING. Either suggest an : appropriate entry in /boot/loader.conf: Actually, make installkernel was fixed so that you don't need to do this. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 2 10:44: 7 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF44E37BCA2 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 10:44:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA64976; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 11:43:57 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id LAA92777; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 11:43:34 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <200008021743.LAA92777@harmony.village.org> To: Mike Hoskins Subject: Re: telnet connection refused from IP outside subnet Cc: plamendp@bgstore.com, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 02 Aug 2000 01:12:23 PDT." References: Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 11:43:34 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message Mike Hoskins writes: : You did this from your server, not your home system, correct? Just : checking, since inetd will obviouslly be using the DNS of your server to : see if a given host is allowed. Do you have the same problem if you : comment out the PARANOID line in /etc/hosts.allow? : : #ALL : PARANOID : RFC931 20 : deny : : What's a traceroute look like from the disallowed connection to the : server, and from the server to your disallowed IP? Yes. This PARANOID option is really quite silly since RFC 931 is useless outside of your own administrative domain and off dubious value inside it. Best to leave it commented out. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 2 10:47:46 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from earth.isni.net (earth.isni.net [208.160.180.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA12237BEEB for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 10:47:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from zombie@isni.net) Received: from planet.isni.net (planet.isni.net [208.160.180.236]) by earth.isni.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id e72Hlcx17948 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 13:47:38 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.0.20000802133510.00b098c0@mail.isni.net> X-Sender: zombie@mail.isni.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 13:47:35 -0400 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org From: Zombie Subject: Re: BuildWorld Fails....Please Advise In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.0.20000802085726.00b1c4e0@mail.isni.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=====================_20536778==_.ALT" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --=====================_20536778==_.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed A correction.....The error is still mkdir: build: File exists This is while compiling libperl. When I looked at the file that I redirected the buildworld to it didn't show. As a note I am running an stock install of freebsd 4.0 Release. I cvsup'd several times (once before each buildworld) At 08:59 AM 8/2/00 -0400, you wrote: > I have been trying to buildworld for about a week now. I was > getting a file exists error during libperl compile but after makeing > clean and deleting the /usr/obj I now get this > >******************************************************** > >cc -O -pipe -I/usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl >-I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5 >-I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include -c >/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/gv.c -o gv.o >cc -O -pipe -I/usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl >-I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5 >-I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include -c >/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/toke.c -o toke.o >*** Error code 1 > >Stop in /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl. >*** Error code 1 > >Stop in /usr/src. >*** Error code 1 > >Stop in /usr/src. >*** Error code 1 > >Stop in /usr/src. >******************************************************** > > > >Sorry if that was too much. Personally I am fairly new at this but I have >had the help of my sys-admin and we can't find anything. If you need a >full transcript of the buildworld I am able to supply. Can you please >advise as to what can fix this. > >Thanks, >Don --=====================_20536778==_.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" A correction.....The error is still
mkdir: build: File exists       
This is while compiling libperl.
When I looked at the file that I redirected the buildworld to it didn't show. 
As a note I am running an stock install of freebsd 4.0 Release.  I cvsup'd several times (once before each buildworld)

At 08:59 AM 8/2/00 -0400, you wrote:
        I have been trying to buildworld for about a week now.  I was getting a file exists error during libperl compile but after makeing clean and deleting the /usr/obj I now get this

********************************************************

cc -O -pipe -I/usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5 -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include -c /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/gv.c -o gv.o
cc -O -pipe -I/usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5 -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include -c /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/toke.c -o toke.o
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/src.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/src.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/src.
********************************************************



Sorry if that was too much.  Personally I am fairly new at this but I have had the help of my sys-admin and we can't find anything.  If you need a full transcript of the buildworld I am able to supply.  Can you please advise as to what can fix this.

Thanks,
Don
--=====================_20536778==_.ALT-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 2 10:49:20 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from melete.ch.intel.com (melete.ch.intel.com [143.182.246.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DD7737BD48 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 10:49:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jreynold@sedona.ch.intel.com) Received: from sedona.intel.com (sedona.ch.intel.com [143.182.218.21]) by melete.ch.intel.com (8.9.1a+p1/8.9.1/d: relay.m4,v 1.30 2000/06/08 18:25:35 dmccart Exp $) with ESMTP id RAA27213 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 17:48:51 GMT Received: from hip186.ch.intel.com (hip186.ch.intel.com [143.182.225.68]) by sedona.intel.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1/d: sendmail.cf,v 1.10 2000/02/10 21:38:16 steved Exp $) with ESMTP id KAA05742 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 10:49:13 -0700 (MST) X-Envelope-To: X-Envelope-From: jreynold@sedona.ch.intel.com Received: (from jreynold@localhost) by hip186.ch.intel.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1/d: client.m4,v 1.3 1998/09/29 16:36:11 sedayao Exp sedayao $) id NAA09944; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 13:49:13 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: hip186.ch.intel.com: jreynold set sender to jreynold@sedona.ch.intel.com using -f From: John Reynolds~ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14728.24344.850392.212516@hip186.ch.intel.com> Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 10:49:12 -0700 (MST) To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Suggestion for change of /usr/src/UPDATING (was: Re: HEADS UP! Always use the 'make buildkernel' target to make yer kernels) In-Reply-To: <200008021742.LAA92757@harmony.village.org> References: <0vd7jsf62b.fsf@cs.uni-magdeburg.de> <20000731030044.A17511@flashcom.net> <4.3.2.20000709232757.00b1e6a0@207.227.119.2> <200008012102.PAA86077@harmony.village.org> <398789CD.2DADAB33@gmx.de> <200008021742.LAA92757@harmony.village.org> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under Emacs 20.6.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG [ On Wednesday, August 2, Warner Losh wrote: ] > : I am not in favour of putting *that* in UPDATING. Either suggest an > : appropriate entry in /boot/loader.conf: > > Actually, make installkernel was fixed so that you don't need to do > this. > It was? Did I miss a "HEADS UP" somewhere along the line? I knew that this was the behavior in -current and it was going to be "MFC"ed ``at some point'' but when did it occur? Seems like this would screw people like me who edited their /boot/loader.conf file unless we change it back to look for /kernel. Thanks for the notice ... I'll make sure to look at stuff and edit /boot/loader.conf appropriately before I type "reboot" the next time :) -Jr -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= | John Reynolds WCCG, CCE, Higher Levels of Abstraction | | Intel Corporation MS: CH6-210 Phone: 480-554-9092 pgr: 602-868-6512 | | jreynold@sedona.ch.intel.com http://www-aec.ch.intel.com/~jreynold/ | =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 2 10:55:21 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail3.megatrends.com (mail3.megatrends.com [155.229.80.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BCD337C049 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 10:55:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vineshc@ami.com) Received: by atl_es1.megatrends.com with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1461.28) id <3N6ZB4DB>; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 14:00:47 -0400 Message-ID: <4A78850EF802D211BB3900805FFE55550BA86C@atl_es1.megatrends.com> From: Vinesh Christopher To: 'Zombie' , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: RE: BuildWorld Fails....Please Advise Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 14:00:44 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1461.28) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This happened for me also. It is due to the date/time of the system set incorrectly.=20 Check you system date/time and correct it. > -----Original Message----- > From: Zombie [SMTP:zombie@isni.net] > Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2000 1:48 PM > To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: BuildWorld Fails....Please Advise >=20 > A correction.....The error is still > mkdir: build: File exists=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 > This is while compiling libperl. > When I looked at the file that I redirected the buildworld to it = didn't > show.=A0=20 > As a note I am running an stock install of freebsd 4.0 Release.=A0 I = cvsup'd > several times (once before each buildworld) >=20 > At 08:59 AM 8/2/00 -0400, you wrote: >=20 >=20 > =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0I have been trying to buildworld for about a = week now.=A0 I > was getting a file exists error during libperl compile but after = makeing > clean and deleting the /usr/obj I now get this > =09 > ******************************************************** > =09 > cc -O -pipe -I/usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl > -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5 > -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include -c > /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/gv.c -o = gv.o > cc -O -pipe -I/usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl > -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5 > -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include -c > /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/toke.c -o > toke.o > *** Error code 1 > =09 > Stop in /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl. > *** Error code 1 > =09 > Stop in /usr/src. > *** Error code 1 > =09 > Stop in /usr/src. > *** Error code 1 > =09 > Stop in /usr/src. > ******************************************************** > =09 > =09 > =09 > Sorry if that was too much.=A0 Personally I am fairly new at this = but > I have had the help of my sys-admin and we can't find anything.=A0 If = you > need a full transcript of the buildworld I am able to supply.=A0 Can = you > please advise as to what can fix this. > =09 > Thanks, > Don > =09 >=20 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 2 10:59:24 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from fw1.riteaid.com (fw1.riteaid.com [204.28.140.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B43F737BB62 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 10:59:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from j_dot_kasper@usa.net) Received: by fw1.riteaid.com; id NAA16947; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 13:58:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from unknown(10.1.3.133) by fw1.riteaid.com via smap (4.1) id xma016894; Wed, 2 Aug 00 13:58:52 -0400 Received: from halcyon.net ([172.16.32.145]) by mail.corp.riteaid.com (8.7.3 Version 1.1 Build 562/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA00328 for ; Wed, 02 Aug 2000 13:54:46 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time) Received: (qmail 2553 invoked by uid 1001); 2 Aug 2000 18:55:47 -0000 Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 13:55:47 -0500 From: Jason Kasper To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Irda support Message-ID: <20000802135547.A2521@judea.rss.riteaid.com> Reply-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.4i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I realize this may be slightly off-topic, but for the life of me, I can't find any reference anywhere (google/altavista/deja.com/freebsd.org/etc.) that would indicate that anybody is even looking at irda support for freebsd. Are there any plans to support irda in the freebsd kernel in the upcoming time-frame? Far be it from me to encourage holy wars, but it gets tiring hearing the linux-user crowd chortling over their kernel's ability to do irda when mine can't. Thanks in advance.... -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Jason Kasper (vanRijn) Systems Engineer bash$ :(){ :|:&};: VORFA To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 2 11: 2:34 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from vinyl.sentex.ca (vinyl.sentex.ca [209.112.4.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8AFF37B83E for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 11:02:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from granite.sentex.net (granite-atm.sentex.ca [209.112.4.1]) by vinyl.sentex.ca (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA43700; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 14:02:29 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from simoeon.sentex.net (simeon.sentex.ca [209.112.4.47]) by granite.sentex.net (8.8.8/8.6.9) with ESMTP id OAA27120; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 14:02:28 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.0.20000802135530.00de2f00@marble.sentex.ca> X-Sender: mdtpop@marble.sentex.ca X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 13:58:10 -0400 To: Gabriel Ambuehl , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG From: Mike Tancsa Subject: Re: make buildkernel broken? (fixed) In-Reply-To: <109111045585.20000802173806@buz.ch> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 05:38 PM 8/2/00 +0200, Gabriel Ambuehl wrote: >/usr/src/sys/pci/if_dc.c:1224: `DC_WDOG_CTLWREN' undeclared (first use in >this function) >/usr/src/sys/pci/if_dc.c:1224: (Each undeclared identifier is reported >only once >/usr/src/sys/pci/if_dc.c:1224: for each function it appears in.) >*** Error code 1 >Cvsup started at 15:06 GMT didn't help as well. UT_NAMESIZE >and MAXLOGNAME are patched to be 31 and 32 chars long but this never >caused any problems so far. The config file was changed to include >options EXT2FS >but reinstalling the backup of it I did before this change didn't change >anything. The fix has been committed by wpaul 2000/08/02 09:32:15 PDT I was able to build without issue after the correction. ---Mike ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Mike Tancsa, tel +1 519 651 3400 Sentex Communications mike@sentex.net Cambridge, Ontario Canada www.sentex.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 2 11: 3:18 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from twirl.bitdance.com (twirl.bitdance.com [208.210.83.50]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82CD037B75A for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 11:03:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bitz@twirl.bitdance.com) Received: from localhost (bitz@localhost) by twirl.bitdance.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA27366; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 14:02:47 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bitz@twirl.bitdance.com) Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 14:02:47 -0400 (EDT) From: "R. David Murray" To: Warner Losh Cc: Siegbert Baude , "Corey G." , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Suggestion for change of /usr/src/UPDATING (was: Re: HEADS UP! Always use the 'make buildkernel' target to make yer kernels) In-Reply-To: <200008021737.LAA92698@harmony.village.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 2 Aug 2000, Warner Losh wrote: > : [1] > : --> reboot <-- > : [...] > : This line should be "shutdown now", isn't it? Any further suggestions to > : make life of Warner easier? > > No. It should be "reboot" since that's the simplest thing. "shutdown > now" doesn't cause the machine to reboot, but merely causes the > processor to halt. It is the same thing as "halt," unless you have > users on the machine, in which case they will get a nice message > before the machine dies.... Um, not in my experience. Shutdown now shuts you down to single user mode without rebooting, it does *not* do a halt. I thought the 'reboot' was so that you were sure the new kernel *would* boot before you did the installworld. Even if the modules changed you can back out of the installkernel relatively easily, but it's a lot harder to back out of the installworld. --RDM To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 2 11: 3:22 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from nbf-27.umd.edu (nbf-27.umd.edu [128.8.38.27]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94C5137B845 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 11:03:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bfoz@glue.umd.edu) Received: from glue.umd.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nbf-27.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA05359; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 14:02:28 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bfoz@glue.umd.edu) Message-ID: <39886234.4348BF34@glue.umd.edu> Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 14:02:28 -0400 From: Brandon Fosdick X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gabriel Ambuehl Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: make buildkernel broken? References: <109111045585.20000802173806@buz.ch> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Gabriel Ambuehl wrote: > > Hello, > cc -c -O -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -fformat-extensions -ansi -nostdinc -I- -I. -I/usr/src/sys -I/usr/src/sys/../include -D_KERNEL -include opt_global.h -elf -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 /usr/src/sys/netinet/tcp_output.c > cc -c -O -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -fformat-extensions -ansi -nostdinc -I- -I. -I/usr/src/sys -I/usr/src/sys/../include -D_KERNEL -include opt_global.h -elf -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 /usr/src/sys/netinet/tcp_subr.c > cc -c -O -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -fformat-extensions -ansi -nostdinc -I- -I. -I/usr/src/sys -I/usr/src/sys/../include -D_KERNEL -include opt_global.h -elf -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 /usr/src/sys/netinet/tcp_timer.c > cc -c -O -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -fformat-extensions -ansi -nostdinc -I- -I. -I/usr/src/sys -I/usr/src/sys/../include -D_KERNEL -include opt_global.h -elf -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 /usr/src/sys/netinet/tcp_usrreq.c > cc -c -O -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -fformat-extensions -ansi -nostdinc -I- -I. -I/usr/src/sys -I/usr/src/sys/../include -D_KERNEL -include opt_global.h -elf -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 /usr/src/sys/netinet/udp_usrreq.c > cc -c -O -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -fformat-extensions -ansi -nostdinc -I- -I. -I/usr/src/sys -I/usr/src/sys/../include -D_KERNEL -include opt_global.h -elf -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 /usr/src/sys/nfs/nfs_bio.c > cc -c -O -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -fformat-extensions -ansi -nostdinc -I- -I. -I/usr/src/sys -I/usr/src/sys/../include -D_KERNEL -include opt_global.h -elf -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 /usr/src/sys/nfs/nfs_node.c > cc -c -O -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -fformat-extensions -ansi -nostdinc -I- -I. -I/usr/src/sys -I/usr/src/sys/../include -D_KERNEL -include opt_global.h -elf -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 /usr/src/sys/nfs/nfs_nqlease.c > cc -c -O -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -fformat-extensions -ansi -nostdinc -I- -I. -I/usr/src/sys -I/usr/src/sys/../include -D_KERNEL -include opt_global.h -elf -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 /usr/src/sys/nfs/nfs_serv.c > cc -c -O -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -fformat-extensions -ansi -nostdinc -I- -I. -I/usr/src/sys -I/usr/src/sys/../include -D_KERNEL -include opt_global.h -elf -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 /usr/src/sys/nfs/nfs_socket.c > cc -c -O -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -fformat-extensions -ansi -nostdinc -I- -I. -I/usr/src/sys -I/usr/src/sys/../include -D_KERNEL -include opt_global.h -elf -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 /usr/src/sys/nfs/nfs_srvcache.c > cc -c -O -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -fformat-extensions -ansi -nostdinc -I- -I. -I/usr/src/sys -I/usr/src/sys/../include -D_KERNEL -include opt_global.h -elf -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 /usr/src/sys/nfs/nfs_subs.c > cc -c -O -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -fformat-extensions -ansi -nostdinc -I- -I. -I/usr/src/sys -I/usr/src/sys/../include -D_KERNEL -include opt_global.h -elf -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 /usr/src/sys/nfs/nfs_syscalls.c > cc -c -O -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -fformat-extensions -ansi -nostdinc -I- -I. -I/usr/src/sys -I/usr/src/sys/../include -D_KERNEL -include opt_global.h -elf -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 /usr/src/sys/nfs/nfs_vfsops.c > cc -c -O -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -fformat-extensions -ansi -nostdinc -I- -I. -I/usr/src/sys -I/usr/src/sys/../include -D_KERNEL -include opt_global.h -elf -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 /usr/src/sys/nfs/nfs_vnops.c > cc -c -O -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -fformat-extensions -ansi -nostdinc -I- -I. -I/usr/src/sys -I/usr/src/sys/../include -D_KERNEL -include opt_global.h -elf -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 /usr/src/sys/pci/if_dc.c > /usr/src/sys/pci/if_dc.c: In function `dc_setcfg': > /usr/src/sys/pci/if_dc.c:1224: `DC_WDOG_CTLWREN' undeclared (first use in this function) > /usr/src/sys/pci/if_dc.c:1224: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once > /usr/src/sys/pci/if_dc.c:1224: for each function it appears in.) > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/ffnonwpboxes. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src. > > Cvsup started at 15:06 GMT didn't help as well. UT_NAMESIZE > and MAXLOGNAME are patched to be 31 and 32 chars long but this never > caused any problems so far. The config file was changed to include > options EXT2FS > but reinstalling the backup of it I did before this change didn't change > anything. > > Best regards, > Gabriel Fresh cvsup, same exact problem. -Brandon To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 2 11: 6:10 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from nbf-27.umd.edu (nbf-27.umd.edu [128.8.38.27]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D85037BE80; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 11:06:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bfoz@glue.umd.edu) Received: from glue.umd.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nbf-27.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA05366; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 14:05:32 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bfoz@glue.umd.edu) Message-ID: <398862EC.D2548FFF@glue.umd.edu> Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 14:05:32 -0400 From: Brandon Fosdick X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bryan Liesner Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, wpaul@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: if_dc.c commit References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Bryan Liesner wrote: > > Todays commit to sys/pci/if_dc.c produces this error: > > cc -c -O -pipe -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes > -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -fformat-extensions > -ansi -nostdinc -I- -I. -I../.. -I../../../include -D_KERNEL > -include opt_global.h -elf -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 ../../pci/if_dc.c > ../../pci/if_dc.c: In function `dc_setcfg': > ../../pci/if_dc.c:1224: `DC_WDOG_CTLWREN' undeclared > (first use in this function) > ../../pci/if_dc.c:1224: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once > ../../pci/if_dc.c:1224: for each function it appears in.) > *** Error code 1 Same problem, fresh cvsup. -Brandon To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 2 11:11:59 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 893E137BE80 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 11:11:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA65133; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 12:11:43 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id MAA93107; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 12:11:24 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <200008021811.MAA93107@harmony.village.org> To: "R. David Murray" Subject: Re: Suggestion for change of /usr/src/UPDATING (was: Re: HEADS UP! Always use the 'make buildkernel' target to make yer kernels) Cc: Siegbert Baude , "Corey G." , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 02 Aug 2000 14:02:47 EDT." References: Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 12:11:23 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message "R. David Murray" writes: : On Wed, 2 Aug 2000, Warner Losh wrote: : > : [1] : > : --> reboot <-- : > : : [...] : > : This line should be "shutdown now", isn't it? Any further suggestions to : > : make life of Warner easier? : > : > No. It should be "reboot" since that's the simplest thing. "shutdown : > now" doesn't cause the machine to reboot, but merely causes the : > processor to halt. It is the same thing as "halt," unless you have : > users on the machine, in which case they will get a nice message : > before the machine dies.... : : Um, not in my experience. Shutdown now shuts you down to single : user mode without rebooting, it does *not* do a halt. No. shutdown now takes you all the way down to "hit any key to reboot" *AND* you want to reboot. : I thought the 'reboot' was so that you were sure the new kernel : *would* boot before you did the installworld. Even if the modules : changed you can back out of the installkernel relatively easily, : but it's a lot harder to back out of the installworld. Yes. You want the new kernel before you reboot. And the new kernel makefiles install the modules. The reboot is to run the new kernel so that the binaries build will run. I'm not 100% sure if this is still required or not, given some of marcel's recent cross building changes. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 2 11:13:25 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from vinyl.sentex.ca (vinyl.sentex.ca [209.112.4.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B892037C14B for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 11:13:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from granite.sentex.net (granite-atm.sentex.ca [209.112.4.1]) by vinyl.sentex.ca (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA46249; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 14:13:19 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from simoeon.sentex.net (simeon.sentex.ca [209.112.4.47]) by granite.sentex.net (8.8.8/8.6.9) with ESMTP id OAA01201; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 14:13:19 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.0.20000802140706.043abc00@marble.sentex.ca> X-Sender: mdtpop@marble.sentex.ca X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 14:09:01 -0400 To: Brandon Fosdick From: Mike Tancsa Subject: Re: if_dc.c commit Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <398862EC.D2548FFF@glue.umd.edu> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 02:05 PM 8/2/00 -0400, Brandon Fosdick wrote: > > ../../pci/if_dc.c:1224: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once > > ../../pci/if_dc.c:1224: for each function it appears in.) > > *** Error code 1 > >Same problem, fresh cvsup. What version do you have of if_dcreg.h ? It should be * $FreeBSD: src/sys/pci/if_dcreg.h,v 1.4.2.4 2000/08/02 16:32:13 wpaul Exp $ With this version I was able to build without the above error. ---Mike ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Mike Tancsa, tel +1 519 651 3400 Sentex Communications mike@sentex.net Cambridge, Ontario Canada www.sentex.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 2 11:24:23 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.rdc1.il.home.com (ha1.rdc1.il.home.com [24.2.1.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5323337B83E for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 11:24:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from stephen@math.missouri.edu) Received: from math.missouri.edu ([24.12.197.197]) by mail.rdc1.il.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with ESMTP id <20000802182412.OWNW21928.mail.rdc1.il.home.com@math.missouri.edu>; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 11:24:12 -0700 Message-ID: <3988674B.15BD7120@math.missouri.edu> Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 13:24:11 -0500 From: Stephen Montgomery-Smith X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.74 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Warner Losh Cc: "R. David Murray" , Siegbert Baude , "Corey G." , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Suggestion for change of /usr/src/UPDATING (was: Re: HEADS UP! Always use the 'make buildkernel' target to make yer kernels) References: <200008021811.MAA93107@harmony.village.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Warner Losh wrote: > : > : Um, not in my experience. Shutdown now shuts you down to single > : user mode without rebooting, it does *not* do a halt. > > No. shutdown now takes you all the way down to "hit any key to > reboot" *AND* you want to reboot. > I thought that was shutdown -h now I find that when I do shutdown now, it just gets me into single user mode. -- Stephen Montgomery-Smith stephen@math.missouri.edu http://www.math.missouri.edu/~stephen To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 2 11:24:30 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.sunesi.net (ns1.sunesi.net [196.15.192.194]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42D1837B995 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 11:24:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nbm@sunesi.net) Received: from nbm by ns1.sunesi.net with local (Exim 3.03 #1) id 13K3Ap-000949-00; Wed, 02 Aug 2000 20:23:23 +0200 Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 20:23:23 +0200 From: Neil Blakey-Milner To: Warner Losh Cc: "R. David Murray" , Siegbert Baude , "Corey G." , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Suggestion for change of /usr/src/UPDATING (was: Re: HEADS UP! Always use the 'make buildkernel' target to make yer kernels) Message-ID: <20000802202322.A34761@mithrandr.moria.org> References: <200008021811.MAA93107@harmony.village.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <200008021811.MAA93107@harmony.village.org>; from imp@village.org on Wed, Aug 02, 2000 at 12:11:23PM -0600 Organization: Sunesi Clinical Systems X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.3-RELEASE i386 X-URL: http://rucus.ru.ac.za/~nbm/ Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed 2000-08-02 (12:11), Warner Losh wrote: > No. shutdown now takes you all the way down to "hit any key to > reboot" *AND* you want to reboot. 'shutdown now' puts you (or at least me on my machines) into single user mode. 'shutdown -h now' halts you, and 'shutdown -r now' reboots you. > Yes. You want the new kernel before you reboot. And the new > kernel makefiles install the modules. The reboot is to run the new > kernel so that the binaries build will run. I'm not 100% sure if this > is still required or not, given some of marcel's recent cross building > changes. Marcel's changes mean that you the tools you use to install the world are ones that you can run with the old kernel. However, once they're installed, you may not be able to run the new binaries with the old kernel. In all, you "should" boot the kernel, and you "might" get away with not doing it, but "you're on your own" if you mess up. Neil -- Neil Blakey-Milner Sunesi Clinical Systems nbm@mithrandr.moria.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 2 11:24:23 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from manatee.mammalia.org (manatee.mammalia.org [216.231.50.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C07A37C080 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 11:24:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rjoseph@mammalia.org) Received: by manatee.mammalia.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 9412411CD70; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 11:24:15 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 11:24:15 -0700 From: R Joseph Wright To: Warner Losh Cc: freebsd-stable Subject: Re: Suggestion for change of /usr/src/UPDATING (was: Re: HEADS UP! Always use the 'make buildkernel' target to make yer kernels) Message-ID: <20000802112415.A753@mammalia.org> References: <200008021811.MAA93107@harmony.village.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.4i In-Reply-To: <200008021811.MAA93107@harmony.village.org>; from imp@village.org on Wed, Aug 02, 2000 at 12:11:23PM -0600 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG And Warner Losh spoke: > In message "R. David Murray" writes: > : On Wed, 2 Aug 2000, Warner Losh wrote: > : > : [1] > : > : --> reboot <-- > : > : > : [...] > : > : This line should be "shutdown now", isn't it? Any further suggestions to > : > : make life of Warner easier? > : > > : > No. It should be "reboot" since that's the simplest thing. "shutdown > : > now" doesn't cause the machine to reboot, but merely causes the > : > processor to halt. It is the same thing as "halt," unless you have > : > users on the machine, in which case they will get a nice message > : > before the machine dies.... > : > : Um, not in my experience. Shutdown now shuts you down to single > : user mode without rebooting, it does *not* do a halt. > > No. shutdown now takes you all the way down to "hit any key to > reboot" *AND* you want to reboot. That's wrong. 'shutdown now' takes you to single user mode. 'shutdown -r now' will make it reboot. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 2 11:26:28 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F0BC37BD96 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 11:26:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA65293; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 12:26:20 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id MAA93445; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 12:26:00 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <200008021826.MAA93445@harmony.village.org> To: R Joseph Wright Subject: Re: Suggestion for change of /usr/src/UPDATING (was: Re: HEADS UP! Always use the 'make buildkernel' target to make yer kernels) Cc: freebsd-stable In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 02 Aug 2000 11:24:15 PDT." <20000802112415.A753@mammalia.org> References: <20000802112415.A753@mammalia.org> <200008021811.MAA93107@harmony.village.org> Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 12:26:00 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <20000802112415.A753@mammalia.org> R Joseph Wright writes: : That's wrong. 'shutdown now' takes you to single user mode. 'shutdown -r now' : will make it reboot. That's changed since the last time I did shutdown then :-). Of course, that was 5 years ago or so... In any event, reboot is right here because you want the new kernel. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 2 11:28:45 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from turtle.looksharp.net (cc360882-a.strhg1.mi.home.com [24.2.221.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06C0037C350 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 11:28:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bandix@looksharp.net) Received: from localhost (bandix@localhost) by turtle.looksharp.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA21060; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 14:28:07 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bandix@looksharp.net) Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 14:28:06 -0400 (EDT) From: "Brandon D. Valentine" To: Warner Losh Cc: "R. David Murray" , Siegbert Baude , "Corey G." , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Suggestion for change of /usr/src/UPDATING (was: Re: HEADS UP! Always use the 'make buildkernel' target to make yer kernels) In-Reply-To: <200008021811.MAA93107@harmony.village.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 2 Aug 2000, Warner Losh wrote: >No. shutdown now takes you all the way down to "hit any key to >reboot" *AND* you want to reboot. Umm, try it Warner. Type "shutdown now" at a root prompt and you will get: Enter name of shell or hit return for /bin/sh: The way you get "hit any key to reboot" is "shutdown -h now", the semantical equivalent of "halt". This is all of course moot since the reboot command does indeed belong in updating for other reasons. Brandon D. Valentine -- bandix at looksharp.net | bandix at structbio.vanderbilt.edu "Truth suffers from too much analysis." -- Ancient Fremen Saying To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 2 11:40:44 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from nbf-27.umd.edu (nbf-27.umd.edu [128.8.38.27]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2D7437B75A for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 11:40:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bfoz@glue.umd.edu) Received: from glue.umd.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nbf-27.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA05471; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 14:40:02 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bfoz@glue.umd.edu) Message-ID: <39886B02.C96390F9@glue.umd.edu> Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 14:40:02 -0400 From: Brandon Fosdick X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mike Tancsa Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: if_dc.c commit References: <4.3.2.7.0.20000802140706.043abc00@marble.sentex.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Mike Tancsa wrote: > > At 02:05 PM 8/2/00 -0400, Brandon Fosdick wrote: > > > ../../pci/if_dc.c:1224: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once > > > ../../pci/if_dc.c:1224: for each function it appears in.) > > > *** Error code 1 > > > >Same problem, fresh cvsup. > > What version do you have of if_dcreg.h ? It should be > > * $FreeBSD: src/sys/pci/if_dcreg.h,v 1.4.2.4 2000/08/02 16:32:13 wpaul Exp $ > > With this version I was able to build without the above error. Fresher cvsup, now it works. :) Thanks -Brandon To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 2 11:49: 1 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pike.osd.bsdi.com (pike.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.28.222]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59F3137B825 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 11:48:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhb@pike.osd.bsdi.com) Received: (from jhb@localhost) by pike.osd.bsdi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA74841; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 11:48:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhb) From: John Baldwin Message-Id: <200008021848.LAA74841@pike.osd.bsdi.com> Subject: Re: making a RELEASE In-Reply-To: from Plamen Petkov at "Aug 2, 2000 03:54:20 pm" To: Plamen Petkov Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 11:48:22 -0700 (PDT) Cc: stable@FreeBSD.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL68 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Plamen Petkov wrote: > > >From all of this 'make a RELEASE' threath I realize the following: > > 1. I cvsup-ed all the sources > > 2. I made the world succesfully - i feel fine, i have a -STABLE FreeBSD, > working just as expected, I am happy with my STABLE FreeBSD :-) etc.. > > 3. However I can not have it on a CD, just to have it on a safe place ? > > Just imagine: some big crash and I have to start again from my last > FreeBSD Release (currently 4.0-R on a CDROM I purchased from > www.cdrom.com) step by step toward 'current' -STABLE ... One thing to note is that there are daily snapshots available for FTP installs from releng4.freebsd.org. > Well, well, FreeBSD Core & Developer Team :-) I know, things like that > happens and ... well, friend, yes, 'start again'... but... any workaround > ? You can build your own releases if you want to, but be forewarned that it can easily take several hours, and require a good chunk of disk space. You will need to cvsup the actual CVS repo, not just the checked-out source. Also, read the comments at the top of the release Makefile. -- John Baldwin -- http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ PGP Key: http://www.cslab.vt.edu/~jobaldwi/pgpkey.asc "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 2 11:56: 6 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ns.yogotech.com (ns.yogotech.com [206.127.123.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7A6237B919 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 11:56:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nate@yogotech.com) Received: from nomad.yogotech.com (nomad.yogotech.com [206.127.123.131]) by ns.yogotech.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA08011; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 12:55:40 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from nate@nomad.yogotech.com) Received: (from nate@localhost) by nomad.yogotech.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA23200; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 12:55:14 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from nate) Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 12:55:14 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <200008021855.MAA23200@nomad.yogotech.com> From: Nate Williams MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Warner Losh Cc: "R. David Murray" , Siegbert Baude , "Corey G." , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Suggestion for change of /usr/src/UPDATING (was: Re: HEADS UP! Always use the 'make buildkernel' target to make yer kernels) In-Reply-To: <200008021811.MAA93107@harmony.village.org> References: <200008021811.MAA93107@harmony.village.org> X-Mailer: VM 6.34 under 19.16 "Lille" XEmacs Lucid Reply-To: nate@yogotech.com (Nate Williams) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > : > : [1] > : > : --> reboot <-- > : > : > : [...] > : > : This line should be "shutdown now", isn't it? Any further suggestions to > : > : make life of Warner easier? > : > > : > No. It should be "reboot" since that's the simplest thing. "shutdown > : > now" doesn't cause the machine to reboot, but merely causes the > : > processor to halt. It is the same thing as "halt," unless you have > : > users on the machine, in which case they will get a nice message > : > before the machine dies.... > : > : Um, not in my experience. Shutdown now shuts you down to single > : user mode without rebooting, it does *not* do a halt. > > No. shutdown now takes you all the way down to "hit any key to > reboot" *AND* you want to reboot. Warner, I think you are confused. 'shutdown now' takes you to single user mode. 'halt' will take you to the above prompt. Nate To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 2 11:57:29 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ns.yogotech.com (ns.yogotech.com [206.127.123.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED05337B654 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 11:57:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nate@yogotech.com) Received: from nomad.yogotech.com (nomad.yogotech.com [206.127.123.131]) by ns.yogotech.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA08017; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 12:56:46 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from nate@nomad.yogotech.com) Received: (from nate@localhost) by nomad.yogotech.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA23214; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 12:56:16 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from nate) Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 12:56:16 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <200008021856.MAA23214@nomad.yogotech.com> From: Nate Williams MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Warner Losh Cc: R Joseph Wright , freebsd-stable Subject: Re: Suggestion for change of /usr/src/UPDATING (was: Re: HEADS UP! Always use the 'make buildkernel' target to make yer kernels) In-Reply-To: <200008021826.MAA93445@harmony.village.org> References: <20000802112415.A753@mammalia.org> <200008021811.MAA93107@harmony.village.org> <200008021826.MAA93445@harmony.village.org> X-Mailer: VM 6.34 under 19.16 "Lille" XEmacs Lucid Reply-To: nate@yogotech.com (Nate Williams) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > : That's wrong. 'shutdown now' takes you to single user mode. 'shutdown -r now' > : will make it reboot. > > That's changed since the last time I did shutdown then :-). Of > course, that was 5 years ago or so... It's been that way since 4.3BSD, at least. Not sure which OS you were using at the time, since it's been the same since 386BSD days. :) Nate To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 2 12: 0:56 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pike.osd.bsdi.com (pike.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.28.222]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 410EA37B6C5 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 12:00:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhb@pike.osd.bsdi.com) Received: (from jhb@localhost) by pike.osd.bsdi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA75232; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 12:00:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhb) From: John Baldwin Message-Id: <200008021900.MAA75232@pike.osd.bsdi.com> Subject: Re: making a RELEASE [should make buildworld made before?] In-Reply-To: <20000802221635Y.matusita@jp.FreeBSD.org> from Makoto MATSUSHITA at "Aug 2, 2000 10:16:35 pm" To: Makoto MATSUSHITA Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 12:00:13 -0700 (PDT) Cc: stable@FreeBSD.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL68 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Makoto MATSUSHITA wrote: > > obrien> However, today's buildworld is more resilent having better > obrien> build-tools, etc.. targets than when release/Makefile was > obrien> first written. Maybe this need could be removed. But this > obrien> hasn't happened yet. > > If I understand the facts of src/release/Makefile correctly, > > - First 'make installworld' under /usr/src is for "creating a chroot > environment for further release engineering." Maybe it can be > supercedesed by copying existing environment or just extracting > 'bin' distribution. But there is no tool for this. Yes, and just doing a make installworld is the easiest way to do this. > - Second 'make buildworld' inside a chroot environment is the actual > build procedure. Obviously, it cannot remove :-) > > - Second 'make installworld' inside a chroot environment is for > "creating an environment for further _actual_ release procedures." > Even though we have much much better procedures for build-tools, > _actual_ release procedures (release.[1-9], doc.?, cdrom.?, and > ftp.? target in src/release/Makefile) does not consider about > that. If these procedures requires newer version of toolchain, it > should be a release-breaker. Well, it is similar to the reason we have build-tools, etc. in the world. We want to make sure that we have tools that match the release Makefile we are using. Also, it is a good test, since we need to make sure that the sources can do an actual installworld before we ship them out to people. :) -- John Baldwin -- http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ PGP Key: http://www.cslab.vt.edu/~jobaldwi/pgpkey.asc "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 2 12: 9:24 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freebie.ilsmart.com (freebie.ilsmart.com [206.175.69.253]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6BFE37B6C5 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 12:09:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bgoering@ilsmart.com) Received: from svr03.ilsmart.com (ilsinet.go-ils.com [206.175.69.228]) by freebie.ilsmart.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id e72J97717138; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 14:09:07 -0500 (CDT) Received: from NT2NOTES.ilsmart.com ([209.154.176.3]) by svr03.ilsmart.com (Lotus Domino Release 5.0.2c (Intl)) with ESMTP id 2000080214093377:47509 ; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 14:09:33 -0500 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, Jason Kasper Subject: Re: Irda support X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.4 June 8, 2000 Message-ID: From: bgoering@ilsmart.com Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 14:10:23 -0500 X-MIMETrack: S/MIME Sign by Notes Client on Bill Goering/ILS(Release 5.0.4 |June 8, 2000) at 08/02/2000 02:08:26 PM, Serialize by Notes Client on Bill Goering/ILS(Release 5.0.4 |June 8, 2000) at 08/02/2000 02:08:26 PM, Serialize complete at 08/02/2000 02:08:26 PM, S/MIME Sign failed at 08/02/2000 02:08:26 PM: The cryptographic key was not found, Serialize by Router on NT2NOTES/ILS(Release 5.0.2c (Intl)|2 February 2000) at 08/02/2000 02:10:26 PM, Serialize complete at 08/02/2000 02:10:26 PM, Itemize by SMTP Server on ILSINET/ILS(Release 5.0.2c (Intl)|2 February 2000) at 08/02/2000 02:09:33 PM, Serialize by Router on ILSINET/ILS(Release 5.0.2c (Intl)|2 February 2000) at 08/02/2000 02:09:37 PM, Serialize complete at 08/02/2000 02:09:37 PM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hmmm, show this to your linux buddies http://www.rewls.nu/takeittux.jpg Jason Kasper Sent by: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG 08/02/2000 01:55 PM Please respond to freebsd-stable To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG cc: Subject: Irda support I realize this may be slightly off-topic, but for the life of me, I can't find any reference anywhere (google/altavista/deja.com/freebsd.org/etc.) that would indicate that anybody is even looking at irda support for freebsd. Are there any plans to support irda in the freebsd kernel in the upcoming time-frame? Far be it from me to encourage holy wars, but it gets tiring hearing the linux-user crowd chortling over their kernel's ability to do irda when mine can't. Thanks in advance.... -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Jason Kasper (vanRijn) Systems Engineer bash$ :(){ :|:&};: VORFA To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 2 12:18:12 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E56ED37B995 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 12:18:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA65572; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 13:18:05 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id NAA93904; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 13:17:44 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <200008021917.NAA93904@harmony.village.org> To: nate@yogotech.com (Nate Williams) Subject: Re: Suggestion for change of /usr/src/UPDATING (was: Re: HEADS UP! Always use the 'make buildkernel' target to make yer kernels) Cc: "R. David Murray" , Siegbert Baude , "Corey G." , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 02 Aug 2000 12:55:14 MDT." <200008021855.MAA23200@nomad.yogotech.com> References: <200008021855.MAA23200@nomad.yogotech.com> <200008021811.MAA93107@harmony.village.org> Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 13:17:44 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <200008021855.MAA23200@nomad.yogotech.com> Nate Williams writes: : Warner, I think you are confused. 'shutdown now' takes you to single : user mode. 'halt' will take you to the above prompt. I was confused between shutdown now and shutdown -h now. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 2 12:19: 3 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4337B37B6C5 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 12:18:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA65583; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 13:18:53 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id NAA93924; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 13:18:33 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <200008021918.NAA93924@harmony.village.org> To: nate@yogotech.com (Nate Williams) Subject: Re: Suggestion for change of /usr/src/UPDATING (was: Re: HEADS UP! Always use the 'make buildkernel' target to make yer kernels) Cc: R Joseph Wright , freebsd-stable In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 02 Aug 2000 12:56:16 MDT." <200008021856.MAA23214@nomad.yogotech.com> References: <200008021856.MAA23214@nomad.yogotech.com> <20000802112415.A753@mammalia.org> <200008021811.MAA93107@harmony.village.org> <200008021826.MAA93445@harmony.village.org> Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 13:18:33 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <200008021856.MAA23214@nomad.yogotech.com> Nate Williams writes: : > : That's wrong. 'shutdown now' takes you to single user mode. 'shutdown -r now' : > : will make it reboot. : > : > That's changed since the last time I did shutdown then :-). Of : > course, that was 5 years ago or so... : : It's been that way since 4.3BSD, at least. Not sure which OS you were : using at the time, since it's been the same since 386BSD days. :) SunOS (well, Solbourne's OS/MP), I think. Of course, I might have always typed -h and just spaced it. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 2 12:33: 1 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.gmx.net (pop.gmx.net [194.221.183.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 20E6237B7EC for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 12:32:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Gerhard.Sittig@gmx.net) Received: (qmail 15530 invoked by uid 0); 2 Aug 2000 19:32:52 -0000 Received: from p3e9d514f.dip.t-dialin.net (HELO speedy.gsinet) (62.157.81.79) by mail.gmx.net with SMTP; 2 Aug 2000 19:32:52 -0000 Received: (from sittig@localhost) by speedy.gsinet (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA08947 for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 19:15:10 +0200 Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 19:15:10 +0200 From: Gerhard Sittig To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ipv6 Message-ID: <20000802191510.Y24476@speedy.gsinet> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <003001bffc01$1838b680$1b9b3218@pit.adelphia.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <003001bffc01$1838b680$1b9b3218@pit.adelphia.net>; from nturki@adelphia.net on Tue, Aug 01, 2000 at 05:40:21PM -0400 Organization: System Defenestrators Inc. Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Aug 01, 2000 at 17:40 -0400, Nader Turki wrote: > > I just installed FreeBSD 4.1-RELEASE. Well, I got this new > thing that's called IPv6 older versions of FreeBSD never asked > me that before. Anyway I said YES and hope that's not gonna > casue me any trouble. 'cause i have no idea what ipv6 is. If you're curious about it try something like "man -k ipv6". If you don't know what _that_ means try "man man". And get used to make use of the locally available info, it will serve you faster than waiting for others to hold your hands. (You should already know about this when using FreeBSD for a longer time. virtually yours 82D1 9B9C 01DC 4FB4 D7B4 61BE 3F49 4F77 72DE DA76 Gerhard Sittig true | mail -s "get gpg key" Gerhard.Sittig@gmx.net -- If you don't understand or are scared by any of the above ask your parents or an adult to help you. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 2 12:50:21 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from palrel3.hp.com (palrel3.hp.com [156.153.255.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 619BB37C1B6 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 12:50:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marcel@cup.hp.com) Received: from adlmail.cup.hp.com (adlmail.cup.hp.com [15.0.100.30]) by palrel3.hp.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 617A7668; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 12:50:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cup.hp.com (gauss.cup.hp.com [15.28.97.152]) by adlmail.cup.hp.com (8.9.3 (PHNE_18546)/8.9.3 SMKit7.02) with ESMTP id MAA17214; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 12:50:06 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <39887B6E.6F8FDC82@cup.hp.com> Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 12:50:06 -0700 From: Marcel Moolenaar Organization: Hewlett-Packard X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Neil Blakey-Milner Cc: Warner Losh , "R. David Murray" , Siegbert Baude , "Corey G." , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Suggestion for change of /usr/src/UPDATING (was: Re: HEADS UP! Always use the 'make buildkernel' target to make yer kernels) References: <200008021811.MAA93107@harmony.village.org> <20000802202322.A34761@mithrandr.moria.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Neil Blakey-Milner wrote: > > Marcel's changes mean that you the tools you use to install the world > are ones that you can run with the old kernel. However, once they're > installed, you may not be able to run the new binaries with the old > kernel. In all, you "should" boot the kernel, and you "might" get away > with not doing it, but "you're on your own" if you mess up. This is correct. The change allows us to have a single 'upgrade' target that builds the world, builds the kernel, installs the kernel, installs the world, perform various other upgrades and finally end with a reboot (not necessarily in this exact order, although ending with a reboot seems kind of mandatory :-) The advantage of the change is also that it allows installworld to be run with -j > 1. We now simply never run what we install and thus avoid race conditions... -- Marcel Moolenaar mail: marcel@cup.hp.com / marcel@FreeBSD.org tel: (408) 447-4222 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 2 13: 0:47 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from drugs.dv.isc.org (wireless-132-208.ietf.marconi.com [147.73.132.208]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CD5C37C0B1 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 13:00:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marka@nominum.com) Received: from nominum.com (localhost.dv.isc.org [127.0.0.1]) by drugs.dv.isc.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA34661; Thu, 3 Aug 2000 06:00:49 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from marka@nominum.com) Message-Id: <200008022000.GAA34661@drugs.dv.isc.org> To: Warner Losh Cc: nate@yogotech.com (Nate Williams), R Joseph Wright , freebsd-stable From: Mark.Andrews@nominum.com Subject: Re: Suggestion for change of /usr/src/UPDATING (was: Re: HEADS UP! Always use the 'make buildkernel' target to make yer kernels) In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 02 Aug 2000 13:18:33 CST." <200008021918.NAA93924@harmony.village.org> Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2000 06:00:49 +1000 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > In message <200008021856.MAA23214@nomad.yogotech.com> Nate Williams writes: > : > : That's wrong. 'shutdown now' takes you to single user mode. 'shutdow > n -r now' > : > : will make it reboot. > : > > : > That's changed since the last time I did shutdown then :-). Of > : > course, that was 5 years ago or so... > : > : It's been that way since 4.3BSD, at least. Not sure which OS you were > : using at the time, since it's been the same since 386BSD days. :) > > SunOS (well, Solbourne's OS/MP), I think. Of course, I might have > always typed -h and just spaced it. SunOS had -h. Shutdown has behaved basically the same since I started working w/ BSD systems in 1983 (BSD 4.2). Mark > > Warner > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- Mark Andrews, Nominum Inc. 1 Seymour St., Dundas Valley, NSW 2117, Australia PHONE: +61 2 9871 4742 INTERNET: Mark.Andrews@nominum.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 2 13:39:44 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from snafu.adept.org (adsl-63-201-63-44.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [63.201.63.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA9D337C0FE for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 13:39:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@adept.org) Received: from localhost (mike@localhost) by snafu.adept.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA16512; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 13:38:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@adept.org) Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 13:38:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Mike Hoskins To: "[gill]" Cc: plamendp@bgstore.com, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: telnet connection refused from IP outside subnet In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 2 Aug 2000, [gill] wrote: > check ps -ax to make sure the daemon is up They are (syslogd and sshd). > run the daemon /usr/local/sbin/sshd -d and watch the debug info > run the client ssh -v for verbose I'll try this and play around a little more tonight. > are you running 4.0-RELEASE, 4.1-RELEASE, or -STABLE? Stable. Oh, and for anyone else who wonders (already received a few helpful emails ;), yes I did HUP the daemons after making configuration changes. Thanks. -mrh To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 2 14:54:36 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mta01-svc.ntlworld.com (mta01-svc.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.41]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0401537BD70 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 14:54:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mark@ukug.uk.freebsd.org) Received: from parish.my.domain ([62.253.85.14]) by mta01-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.02.27 201-229-119-110) with ESMTP id <20000802215420.FZXF26680.mta01-svc.ntlworld.com@parish.my.domain>; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 22:54:20 +0100 Received: (from mark@localhost) by parish.my.domain (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA01811; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 22:54:10 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mark) Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 22:54:10 +0100 From: Mark Ovens To: John Reynolds~ Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Suggestion for change of /usr/src/UPDATING (was: Re: HEADS UP! Always use the 'make buildkernel' target to make yer kernels) Message-ID: <20000802225410.D236@parish> References: <0vd7jsf62b.fsf@cs.uni-magdeburg.de> <20000731030044.A17511@flashcom.net> <200008012102.PAA86077@harmony.village.org> <398789CD.2DADAB33@gmx.de> <200008021742.LAA92757@harmony.village.org> <14728.24344.850392.212516@hip186.ch.intel.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <14728.24344.850392.212516@hip186.ch.intel.com>; from jreynold@sedona.ch.intel.com on Wed, Aug 02, 2000 at 10:49:12AM -0700 Organization: Total lack of Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Aug 02, 2000 at 10:49:12AM -0700, John Reynolds~ wrote: > > [ On Wednesday, August 2, Warner Losh wrote: ] > > : I am not in favour of putting *that* in UPDATING. Either suggest an > > : appropriate entry in /boot/loader.conf: > > > > Actually, make installkernel was fixed so that you don't need to do > > this. > > > > It was? Did I miss a "HEADS UP" somewhere along the line? I knew that this was > the behavior in -current and it was going to be "MFC"ed ``at some point'' but > when did it occur? > > Seems like this would screw people like me who edited their /boot/loader.conf > file unless we change it back to look for /kernel. > > Thanks for the notice ... I'll make sure to look at stuff and edit > /boot/loader.conf appropriately before I type "reboot" the next time :) > If you add makeoptions KERNEL=kernel #Build kernel "foo" and install "/foo" to your kernel config file it will install it as /kernel without this change; and back up your old one as /kernel.old. I would expect this line in the config file will be harmless (albeit redundant) when the change is MFC'd so you won't have to edit /boot/loader.conf. HTH > -Jr > > -- > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > | John Reynolds WCCG, CCE, Higher Levels of Abstraction | > | Intel Corporation MS: CH6-210 Phone: 480-554-9092 pgr: 602-868-6512 | > | jreynold@sedona.ch.intel.com http://www-aec.ch.intel.com/~jreynold/ | > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- If I buy a copy of WinDelete, and it doesn't delete Windows, am I entitled to my money back? ________________________________________________________________ 51.44°N FreeBSD - The Power To Serve http://www.freebsd.org 2.057°W My Webpage http://ukug.uk.freebsd.org/~mark mailto:marko@freebsd.org http://www.radan.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 2 15:10:57 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from boombox.zaphods.net (boombox.zaphods.net [194.97.106.203]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9ED7437B5F1 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 15:10:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from zaphodb@zaphods.net) Received: from localhost (zaphodb@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by boombox.zaphods.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA13874 for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2000 00:10:30 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from zaphodb@zaphods.net) Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2000 00:10:23 +0200 (CEST) From: Stefan Schmidt To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: 4.1-REL bootloader failure Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- hi there, i recently tried to install an 4.1-REL (2 Floppies) on an dual i386 SCSI HD 1/2 gig RAM over FTP and chose the expert mode or whatever it is called again in the Installation-Menu. However everything went just fine, but after a reboot the bootloader just couldn't find a kernel to boot. I repeated the procedure 2 more times thereafter but the result remained the same, is there something i should know about installing via FTP ? :-)) or perhaps something has changed on the installation disks ? oh fun facts: annoyed by that unexpected denial of service i chose to install OpenBSD instead and , believe it or not, just came to the point to check its dmesg just to realize that it doesnt support SMP yet :(( :)) yours kinda sincerely, Stefan Schmidt - -- Q: What's the difference between Bell Labs and the Boy Scouts of America? A: The Boy Scouts have adult supervision. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.0 (FreeBSD) Comment: Made with pgp4pine iD8DBQE5iJxVukA5Jvp3yMERARpTAJ4+Rp5zFU03b/jtgywfNFa3RWwOZwCffQ0q SXdhIpAlpvD38ZR+1BCGMzs= =YM1b -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 2 15:31:51 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from fnal.gov (heffalump.fnal.gov [131.225.9.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C66DB37C56F for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 15:31:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from zingelman@fnal.gov) Received: from nova.fnal.gov ([131.225.18.207]) by smtp.fnal.gov (PMDF V6.0-24 #44770) with ESMTP id <0FYO00JJ2RWSXU@smtp.fnal.gov> for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Wed, 02 Aug 2000 17:31:40 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (tez@localhost) by nova.fnal.gov (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA16858; Wed, 02 Aug 2000 17:31:38 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 17:31:38 -0500 (CDT) From: Tim Zingelman Subject: Re: telnet connection refused from IP outside subnet In-reply-to: <200008021743.LAA92777@harmony.village.org> X-Sender: tez@nova.fnal.gov To: Warner Losh Cc: Mike Hoskins , plamendp@bgstore.com, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Authentication-warning: nova.fnal.gov: tez owned process doing -bs Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > : comment out the PARANOID line in /etc/hosts.allow? > : #ALL : PARANOID : RFC931 20 : deny > Yes. This PARANOID option is really quite silly since RFC 931 is > useless outside of your own administrative domain and off dubious > value inside it. Best to leave it commented out. > Warner The RFC931 part may be silly, but the PARANOID part keeps out any ip address that does not reverse DNS to a name. We find that useful. - Tim To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 2 15:37:36 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from 2711.dynacom.net (2711.dynacom.net [206.107.213.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 838E637C939; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 15:37:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kstewart@urx.com) Received: from urx.com (dsl1-160.dynacom.net [206.159.132.160]) by 2711.dynacom.net (Build 101 8.9.3/NT-8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA00287; Wed, 02 Aug 2000 15:37:21 -0700 Message-ID: <3988A2A1.2E1A2B39@urx.com> Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 15:37:21 -0700 From: Kent Stewart Reply-To: kstewart@urx.com Organization: Dynacom X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.74 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mark Ovens Cc: John Reynolds~ , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Suggestion for change of /usr/src/UPDATING (was: Re: HEADS UP! Always use the 'make buildkernel' target to make yer kernels) References: <0vd7jsf62b.fsf@cs.uni-magdeburg.de> <20000731030044.A17511@flashcom.net> <200008012102.PAA86077@harmony.village.org> <398789CD.2DADAB33@gmx.de> <200008021742.LAA92757@harmony.village.org> <14728.24344.850392.212516@hip186.ch.intel.com> <20000802225410.D236@parish> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Mark Ovens wrote: > > On Wed, Aug 02, 2000 at 10:49:12AM -0700, John Reynolds~ wrote: > > > > [ On Wednesday, August 2, Warner Losh wrote: ] > > > : I am not in favour of putting *that* in UPDATING. Either suggest an > > > : appropriate entry in /boot/loader.conf: > > > > > > Actually, make installkernel was fixed so that you don't need to do > > > this. > > > > > > > It was? Did I miss a "HEADS UP" somewhere along the line? I knew that this was > > the behavior in -current and it was going to be "MFC"ed ``at some point'' but > > when did it occur? > > > > Seems like this would screw people like me who edited their /boot/loader.conf > > file unless we change it back to look for /kernel. > > > > Thanks for the notice ... I'll make sure to look at stuff and edit > > /boot/loader.conf appropriately before I type "reboot" the next time :) > > > > If you add > > makeoptions KERNEL=kernel #Build kernel "foo" and install "/foo" > > to your kernel config file it will install it as /kernel without this > change; and back up your old one as /kernel.old. I would expect this > line in the config file will be harmless (albeit redundant) when the > change is MFC'd so you won't have to edit /boot/loader.conf. I have to make a point here and that is I like the current arrangement. I would much rather have installkernel make a file called MYKERNEL than have it make all kernel's as "kernel". I think that as we follow Stable or Current, we need to create a GENERIC that goes along with them. When you don't have a clue, boot GENERIC. It may not solve anything but it is a data point. I don't like having all of my kernels called kernel because of this. I would much rather mv RUBY to kernel than mv kernel to kernel.GENERIC or GENERIC and re-installkernel for RUBY. I follow upgrades with my general setup and only at significant places do I create a GENERIC. I have a shell script that moves RUBY, for example, to kernel and I don't touch GENERIC. Kent > > HTH > > > -Jr > > > > -- > > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > > | John Reynolds WCCG, CCE, Higher Levels of Abstraction | > > | Intel Corporation MS: CH6-210 Phone: 480-554-9092 pgr: 602-868-6512 | > > | jreynold@sedona.ch.intel.com http://www-aec.ch.intel.com/~jreynold/ | > > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > -- > If I buy a copy of WinDelete, and it doesn't delete Windows, > am I entitled to my money back? > ________________________________________________________________ > 51.44°N FreeBSD - The Power To Serve http://www.freebsd.org > 2.057°W My Webpage http://ukug.uk.freebsd.org/~mark > mailto:marko@freebsd.org http://www.radan.com > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA mailto:kbstew99@hotmail.com http://kstewart.urx.com/kstewart/index.html FreeBSD News http://daily.daemonnews.org/ Bomber dropping fire retardant in front of Hanford Wild fire. http://kstewart.urx.com/kstewart/bomber.jpg To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 2 15:40:28 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6485537C346 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 15:40:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA66499; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 16:39:53 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id QAA95390; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 16:39:33 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <200008022239.QAA95390@harmony.village.org> To: Tim Zingelman Subject: Re: telnet connection refused from IP outside subnet Cc: Mike Hoskins , plamendp@bgstore.com, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 02 Aug 2000 17:31:38 CDT." References: Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 16:39:33 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message Tim Zingelman writes: : > : comment out the PARANOID line in /etc/hosts.allow? : > : #ALL : PARANOID : RFC931 20 : deny : The RFC931 part may be silly, but the PARANOID part keeps out any ip : address that does not reverse DNS to a name. We find that useful. Ah. You are right. I'd forgotten about that. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 2 16:30:30 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mass.osd.bsdi.com (mass.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.28.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8321A37B605 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 16:30:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msmith@mass.osd.bsdi.com) Received: from mass.osd.bsdi.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mass.osd.bsdi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA01493; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 16:40:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msmith@mass.osd.bsdi.com) Message-Id: <200008022340.QAA01493@mass.osd.bsdi.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: "Thiago Modelli" Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Mylex problem In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 02 Aug 2000 07:28:27 PDT." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 16:40:49 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > = > Hey guys, > = > I've been using freebsd for a while now but > i'm having problems with Raid card. I got a > AcceleRAID 250 runing under FreeBSD 4.1. I > called mylex and them told me to make my > drives "Hot Swap in real time" i have to install > the GAM program. But they don't provide it. This isn't strictly correct. If you have a managed enclosure, hot-swap and automatic rebuild is = managed entirely by the adapter. If you have a 'dumb' enclosure, use the mlxcontrol(8) utility to perform = a manual rebuild. -- = =2E.. every activity meets with opposition, everyone who acts has his rivals and unfortunately opponents also. But not because people want to be opponents, rather because the tasks and relationships force people to take different points of view. [Dr. Fritz Todt] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 2 17:14:59 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from evil.2y.net (ztown1-3-26.adsl.one.net [216.23.21.26]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7658437B9F7 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 17:14:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cokane@evil.2y.net) Received: (from cokane@localhost) by evil.2y.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA06604; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 20:22:25 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cokane) Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 20:22:25 -0400 From: Coleman Kane To: Richard Tobin Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Is VIA DMA reliable now? Message-ID: <20000802202225.B6550@cokane.yi.org> References: <200008021359.OAA24637@rhymer.cogsci.ed.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <200008021359.OAA24637@rhymer.cogsci.ed.ac.uk>; from richard@cogsci.ed.ac.uk on Wed, Aug 02, 2000 at 10:00:20AM -0400 X-Vim: vim:tw=70:ts=4:sw=4 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have been using it now and it seems the problems have been fixed. Richard Tobin had the audacity to say: > > A few months ago there were a lot of messages about disk corruption > when using DMA with some (?) VIA ATA chipsets. Is this fixed in 4.1? > > -- Richard > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > -- Coleman Kane President, UC Free O.S. Users Group - http://pohl.ececs.uc.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 2 17:16:13 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from evil.2y.net (ztown1-3-26.adsl.one.net [216.23.21.26]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0E2237B9F7 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 17:16:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cokane@evil.2y.net) Received: (from cokane@localhost) by evil.2y.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA06569; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 20:20:35 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cokane) Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 20:20:35 -0400 From: Coleman Kane To: Dominic Mitchell Cc: cjclark@alum.mit.edu, Chris Fedde , Holtor , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: sendmail 8.11.0 Message-ID: <20000802202035.A6550@cokane.yi.org> References: <20000801155735.B97403@bizboz.mistral.co.uk> <200008012003.e71K3wd41491@fedde.littleton.co.us> <20000801211646.A50818@184.215.6.64.reflexcom.com> <20000802094230.A99818@bizboz.mistral.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <20000802094230.A99818@bizboz.mistral.co.uk>; from hdm@mistral.co.uk on Wed, Aug 02, 2000 at 04:43:59AM -0400 X-Vim: vim:tw=70:ts=4:sw=4 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG For example, the qmail package also creates a sendmail binary. Dominic Mitchell had the audacity to say: > On Tue, Aug 01, 2000 at 09:16:46PM -0700, Crist J . Clark wrote: > > On Tue, Aug 01, 2000 at 02:03:57PM -0600, Chris Fedde wrote: > > > My point is that there is a perfectly good mechinism in existance to allow > > > switching between MTA. The rc.conf mechinism works well and is consistant > > > for all other components of the system. In this one case we add a layer of > > > indirection below rc.conf. > > > Why not simply use something like > > > > > > mta_enable="YES" > > > mta=/usr/sbin/sendmail > > > or > > > mta_ena > > > mta=/usr/sbin/qmail > > > > > > and the appropriate frag in /etc/rc to work with this > > > I find the whole mailwrapper thing bizarre in the extreem ;-) > > > > But that will only affect the MTA listening for relays. It will not > > change what executable a program trying to send mail on the local > > machine will exec to send mail... Unless now everything that sends > > mail has to source rc.conf first. Yuck. > > Precisely. Like it or not, /usr/sbin/sendmail has become an interface > to sending mail and is *not* exclusive to sendmail. > > -Dom (Paid up member of the Sendmail Must Die club) > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > -- Coleman Kane President, UC Free O.S. Users Group - http://pohl.ececs.uc.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 2 17:21:13 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from web6301.mail.yahoo.com (web6301.mail.yahoo.com [128.11.22.138]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0056C37BE02 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 17:21:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from milkypostman@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20000803002102.9327.qmail@web6301.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [136.182.2.222] by web6301.mail.yahoo.com; Wed, 02 Aug 2000 17:21:02 PDT Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 17:21:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Don Curtis Subject: GTK Port Installation To: stable@freebsd.org Cc: ports@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have been installling GTK on a variety of machines and I have run across a dependancy which was skipped on the port of gnomecc(gnome control panel). The libpixmap.so library is required for some themes which gtk uses but libpixmap.so is part of the gtk-engines port, which is not a dependancy. The lack of that library causes buttons/option boxes/check boxes to not change along with the theme. This has happened numerous times to me. This happened on 5.0-current-?????? (the cd archive from may i believe) 4.0-release, and 4.1-release. If i'm an idiot, wrong, or right. Let know if any of you can confirm this. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Kick off your party with Yahoo! Invites. http://invites.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 2 17:30: 4 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.hcvlny.cv.net (mx1.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.112.76]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F25937BC9B for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 17:30:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mvanberk@optonline.net) Received: from s1.optonline.net (s1.optonline.net [167.206.112.6]) by mx1.hcvlny.cv.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA13409 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 20:29:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from steinyv (d133-151.jcsnnj.optonline.net [24.189.133.151]) by s1.optonline.net (8.9.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA00180 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 20:29:58 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.20000802191609.009c9280@mail-hub.optonline.net> X-Sender: mvanberk@mail-hub.optonline.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 19:19:13 -0400 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org From: Bigwillie Subject: New Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I was encouraged to track the stable group. Im running cvsup right now on my box (that was pretty easy), so what is the general consensus on upgrading 4.1R to 4.1S. This is my first time. Thanks. _________________________________________ Steiny's Studio Pachyderm Productions http://steiny.hypermart.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 2 17:41:53 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from cfdnet.me.tuns.ca (CFDnet.me.TUNS.Ca [134.190.50.164]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EA1E37B57C for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 17:41:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bbmail@cfdnet.me.tuns.ca) Received: from localhost (bbmail@localhost) by cfdnet.me.tuns.ca (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA01745; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 21:41:17 -0300 (ADT) (envelope-from bbmail@cfdnet.me.tuns.ca) Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 21:41:16 -0300 (ADT) From: Bryan Bursey To: Bigwillie Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: New In-Reply-To: <4.2.0.58.20000802191609.009c9280@mail-hub.optonline.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Most of the folks on this list would (I hope) point you to the documentation that describes how to track -STABLE. You'll find this in the FreeBSD Handbook at http://www.FreeBSD.org/handbook. Be sure to follow the discussions on this list, and since you're just staring, review some of the more recently archived messages. Remember that people have a tendancy to help those that help themselves (as much as possible). Cheers, Bryan On Wed, 2 Aug 2000, Bigwillie wrote: > I was encouraged to track the stable group. Im running cvsup right now on > my box (that was pretty easy), so what is the general consensus on > upgrading 4.1R to 4.1S. This is my first time. Thanks. > > _________________________________________ > Steiny's Studio > Pachyderm Productions > http://steiny.hypermart.net > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 2 17:42: 5 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from adsl-151-197-202-137.bellatlantic.net (adsl-151-197-202-137.bellatlantic.net [151.197.202.137]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19DE437B6A3 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 17:41:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bleez@bellatlantic.net) Received: from localhost (root@localhost) by adsl-151-197-202-137.bellatlantic.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA00212; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 20:41:49 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bleez@bellatlantic.net) Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 20:41:48 -0400 (EDT) From: Bryan Liesner X-Sender: root@adsl-151-197-202-137.bellatlantic.net To: Mike Tancsa Cc: Brandon Fosdick , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: if_dc.c commit In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.0.20000802140706.043abc00@marble.sentex.ca> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 2 Aug 2000, Mike Tancsa wrote: >At 02:05 PM 8/2/00 -0400, Brandon Fosdick wrote: >> > ../../pci/if_dc.c:1224: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once >> > ../../pci/if_dc.c:1224: for each function it appears in.) >> > *** Error code 1 >> >>Same problem, fresh cvsup. > >What version do you have of if_dcreg.h ? It should be > > * $FreeBSD: src/sys/pci/if_dcreg.h,v 1.4.2.4 2000/08/02 16:32:13 wpaul Exp $ > >With this version I was able to build without the above error. Well, yesterday, 8/1/2000, if_dc.c was committed without if_dcreg.h, committed on 8/2/2000. They should have been committed together, and I'm sure it was just an oversight. ========================================================== = Bryan D. Liesner LeezSoft Communications, Inc. = = A subsidiary of LeezSoft Inc. = = bleez@bellatlantic.net Home of the Gipper = ========================================================== To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 2 17:57:47 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ns.cove.com (ns.cove.com [209.113.166.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A80D237B537 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 17:57:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tommyk@cove.com) Received: from myname.my.domain (capm373.cape.cove.com [209.113.167.73]) by ns.cove.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id VAA23535 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 21:03:40 -0400 (EDT) From: tommyk To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Does anyone succeed on making world from 3.5S to 4.1S ? Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 20:54:40 -0400 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.0.21] Content-Type: text/plain References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <00080221003503.68290@myname.my.domain> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 31 Jul 2000, Lowell Gilbert wrote: > "H . S . YOON" writes: > > > Buildworld was successful with no error. But 'make installkernel' fail and > > 'make install in /usr/src/sys/modules' fail, too. > > > > Whe installkernel, > > > > " > > xocah# make installkernel KERNEL=XOCAH > > cd /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/XOCAH; MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX=/usr/obj COMPILER_PATH=/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/libexec:/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/bin LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/lib:/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/lib OBJFORMAT_PATH=/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/libexec PERL5LIB=/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/libdata/perl/5.00503 MACHINE=i386 KERNEL=XOCAH make install > > cd: can't cd to /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/XOCAH > > *** Error code 2 > > This looks remarkably like you forgot the "make buildkernel" step. > You mentioned that step in your cookbook at the front of your message, > but it's not described here; and since that's the part which should > create the missing directory, I think that's the part you forgot. yeah, but the other one: # make install ===> accf_data install -c -o root -g wheel -m 555 accf_data.ko /modules install: accf_data.ko: No such file or directory *** Error code 71 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. which I also get in the modules "make install". Because I followed the instructions step by step, I never get past this. This is like my seventh try with my third cvsup... any thoughts on what that might be? it isn't forgetting "make buildkernel", or anything in updating, I've traced the steps over and over.. Is this error looking familiar to anyone? Can anybody point out what this error might mean ( aside from missing files... there are clearly missing files, but following updating isn't building them either... )? > > There were some bogosities in the cookbook (notably building the new > devices in the /usr/src tree, where they won't help at all), but > that's further along than you had gotten so far. > > Good luck. > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 2 17:59:40 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from starbug.ugh.net.au (starbug.ugh.net.au [203.31.238.37]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92A0B37B573 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 17:59:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andrew@ugh.net.au) Received: by starbug.ugh.net.au (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 28827A847; Thu, 3 Aug 2000 11:00:09 +1000 (EST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by starbug.ugh.net.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24D51544A; Thu, 3 Aug 2000 11:00:09 +1000 (EST) Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2000 11:00:09 +1000 (EST) From: andrew@ugh.net.au To: Tim Zingelman Cc: Warner Losh , Mike Hoskins , plamendp@bgstore.com, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: telnet connection refused from IP outside subnet In-Reply-To: Message-ID: X-WonK: *wibble* MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 2 Aug 2000, Tim Zingelman wrote: > The RFC931 part may be silly, but the PARANOID part keeps out any ip RFC931 isn't always silly. _You_ may not be able to trust the results but the site you complain to may be glad of the info if they know they can trust their ident server. Andrew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 2 18: 8:57 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from fnal.gov (heffalump.fnal.gov [131.225.9.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6B8B37B519 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 18:08:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from zingelman@fnal.gov) Received: from nova.fnal.gov ([131.225.18.207]) by smtp.fnal.gov (PMDF V6.0-24 #44770) with ESMTP id <0FYO00316Z6LMN@smtp.fnal.gov> for stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Wed, 02 Aug 2000 20:08:46 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (tez@localhost) by nova.fnal.gov (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id UAA17181; Wed, 02 Aug 2000 20:08:44 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 20:08:44 -0500 (CDT) From: Tim Zingelman Subject: Makefile.inc1 & kernel names In-reply-to: <3988A2A1.2E1A2B39@urx.com> X-Sender: tez@nova.fnal.gov To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: marcel@scc.nl Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Authentication-warning: nova.fnal.gov: tez owned process doing -bs Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG [I've cc'd the person who, if I'm seeing correctly, has most recently changed this part of Makefile.inc1 in -CURRENT. Since this keeps coming up here, and we need -CURRENT to DTRT so we can then get a MFC to make us happy here in -STABLE] > > > [ mv /kernel /kernel.old && mv /YOUR_KERNEL_HERE /kernel ] > > > > Actually, make installkernel was fixed so that you don't need to do > > > > this. [ONLY fixed in -CURRENT NOT in -STABLE] > > makeoptions KERNEL=kernel #Build kernel "foo" and install "/foo" > > to your kernel config file it will install it as /kernel without this > > change; and back up your old one as /kernel.old. I would expect this > I have to make a point here and that is I like the current > arrangement. I would much rather have installkernel make a file called > MYKERNEL than have it make all kernel's as "kernel".... Historically the generic kernel has been named /kernel.GENERIC, not /GENERIC. If you add 'makeoptions KERNEL=kernel.GENERIC' to the GENERIC config file, and 'makeoptions KERNEL=kernel' to your custom kernel config file, you get "close" to an answer... IMHO the 'right thing' to do is something like this: Allow KERNEL to specify a list of config files (so one can define KERNEL="MYCUSTOM GENERIC" for instance). Have the 'make buildkernel' target build the first one in the list with KERNEL=kernel, and all the others with KERNEL=kernel.NAME. (in my above example, MYCUSTOM would get built as kernel and GENERIC would get built as kernel.GENERIC. Have the 'make installkernel' target install the first one in the KERNEL list with KERNEL=kernel, and all the others with KERNEL=kernel.NAME. (again my example would install MYCUSTOM in /kernel and GENERIC in /kernel.GENERIC. It would be nice if in this whole process the modules only got built once, and the pre-existing /kernel got preserved as /kernel.old. Though I think that all works ok already. Here is a patch against Makefile.inc1 from -STABLE, but IT DOES NOT WORK!! Can someone explain to me what I'm doing wrong? make says: "/usr/src/Makefile.inc1", line 1: Malformed conditional (CUSTOM == ${INSTALLKERNEL}) That's a 'make buildkernel' with 'KERNEL=CUSTOM GENERIC' in /etc/make.conf Thanks, - Tim Index: Makefile.inc1 =================================================================== RCS file: /usr/cvs/src/Makefile.inc1,v retrieving revision 1.141.2.4 diff -c -r1.141.2.4 Makefile.inc1 *** Makefile.inc1 2000/06/17 03:43:06 1.141.2.4 --- Makefile.inc1 2000/08/03 01:00:06 *************** *** 330,337 **** # Which kernels to build and/or install is specified by setting # KERNEL. If not defined a GENERIC kernel is built/installed. # Only the existing (depending MACHINE) config files are used ! # for building kernels and only the first of these is designated ! # as the one being installed. # # Note that we have to use MACHINE instead of MACHINE_ARCH when # we're in kernel-land. Since only MACHINE_ARCH is (expected) to --- 330,339 ---- # Which kernels to build and/or install is specified by setting # KERNEL. If not defined a GENERIC kernel is built/installed. # Only the existing (depending MACHINE) config files are used ! # for building kernels. The first is installed as /kernel, the ! # remaining are installed as /kernel.NAME. So setting ! # KERNEL= CUSTOM GENERIC will result in your CUSTOM kernel installed ! # as /kernel and GENERIC installed as /kernel.GENERIC # # Note that we have to use MACHINE instead of MACHINE_ARCH when # we're in kernel-land. Since only MACHINE_ARCH is (expected) to *************** *** 361,367 **** .if exists(${KRNLCONFDIR}/${_kernel}) BUILDKERNELS+= ${_kernel} .if empty(INSTALLKERNEL) ! INSTALLKERNEL= ${_kernel} .endif .endif .endfor --- 363,369 ---- .if exists(${KRNLCONFDIR}/${_kernel}) BUILDKERNELS+= ${_kernel} .if empty(INSTALLKERNEL) ! INSTALLKERNEL= ${_kernel} .endif .endif .endfor *************** *** 377,383 **** @echo ">>> Rebuilding kernel(s)" @echo "--------------------------------------------------------------" .for _kernel in ${BUILDKERNELS} ! @echo "===> ${_kernel}" mkdir -p ${KRNLOBJDIR} cd ${KRNLCONFDIR}; \ PATH=${TMPPATH} \ --- 379,390 ---- @echo ">>> Rebuilding kernel(s)" @echo "--------------------------------------------------------------" .for _kernel in ${BUILDKERNELS} ! .if ${_kernel} == ${INSTALLKERNEL} ! KERNELNAME= kernel ! .else ! KERNELNAME= kernel.${_kernel} ! .endif ! @echo "===> ${KERNELNAME}" mkdir -p ${KRNLOBJDIR} cd ${KRNLCONFDIR}; \ PATH=${TMPPATH} \ *************** *** 385,405 **** cd ${KRNLOBJDIR}/${_kernel}; \ MAKESRCPATH=${KRNLSRCDIR}/dev/aic7xxx \ ${MAKE} -f ${KRNLSRCDIR}/dev/aic7xxx/Makefile; \ ! ${WMAKEENV} MACHINE=${MACHINE} KERNEL=${_kernel} \ ${MAKE} depend; \ ! ${WMAKEENV} MACHINE=${MACHINE} KERNEL=${_kernel} ${MAKE} all .endfor # # installkernel # ! # Install the kernel defined by INSTALLKERNEL # installkernel: cd ${KRNLOBJDIR}/${INSTALLKERNEL}; \ ! ${IMAKEENV} MACHINE=${MACHINE} KERNEL=${INSTALLKERNEL} \ ${MAKE} install ! # # update # --- 392,420 ---- cd ${KRNLOBJDIR}/${_kernel}; \ MAKESRCPATH=${KRNLSRCDIR}/dev/aic7xxx \ ${MAKE} -f ${KRNLSRCDIR}/dev/aic7xxx/Makefile; \ ! ${WMAKEENV} MACHINE=${MACHINE} KERNEL=${KERNELNAME} \ ${MAKE} depend; \ ! ${WMAKEENV} MACHINE=${MACHINE} KERNEL=${KERNELNAME} ${MAKE} all .endfor # # installkernel # ! # Install the kernel defined by INSTALLKERNEL as /kernel, ! # Install all others as kernel.NAME # installkernel: + .for _kernel in ${BUILDKERNELS} + .if ${_kernel} == ${INSTALLKERNEL} + KERNELNAME= kernel + .else + KERNELNAME= kernel.${_kernel} + .endif + @echo "===> ${KERNELNAME}" cd ${KRNLOBJDIR}/${INSTALLKERNEL}; \ ! ${IMAKEENV} MACHINE=${MACHINE} KERNEL=${KERNELNAME} \ ${MAKE} install ! .endfor # # update # To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 2 18:10:17 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.hcvlny.cv.net (mx1.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.112.76]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E7F837C151 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 18:10:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mvanberk@optonline.net) Received: from s1.optonline.net (s1.optonline.net [167.206.112.6]) by mx1.hcvlny.cv.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA08024 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 21:10:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from steinyv (d133-151.jcsnnj.optonline.net [24.189.133.151]) by s1.optonline.net (8.9.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA20231 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 21:10:05 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.20000802195236.009cbd20@mail-hub.optonline.net> X-Sender: mvanberk@mail-hub.optonline.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 19:54:19 -0400 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org From: Bigwillie Subject: Re: New In-Reply-To: References: <4.2.0.58.20000802191609.009c9280@mail-hub.optonline.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Well according to /usr/src/UPDATING I should be using the build kernel method. That is where Im at right now, hopefully all stages should go through smoothly. Ill report how things go. At 08:41 PM 8/2/00 , you wrote: >Most of the folks on this list would (I hope) point you to the >documentation that describes how to track -STABLE. You'll find this in >the FreeBSD Handbook at http://www.FreeBSD.org/handbook. > >Be sure to follow the discussions on this list, and since you're just >staring, review some of the more recently archived messages. > >Remember that people have a tendancy to help those that help themselves >(as much as possible). > >Cheers, >Bryan > >On Wed, 2 Aug 2000, Bigwillie wrote: > > > I was encouraged to track the stable group. Im running cvsup right now on > > my box (that was pretty easy), so what is the general consensus on > > upgrading 4.1R to 4.1S. This is my first time. Thanks. > > > > _________________________________________ > > Steiny's Studio > > Pachyderm Productions > > http://steiny.hypermart.net > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > _________________________________________ Steiny's Studio Pachyderm Productions http://steiny.hypermart.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 2 18:24:27 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from cain.gsoft.com.au (genesi.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.136.161]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD8B637B53E for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 18:24:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) Received: from cain.gsoft.com.au (doconnor@cain [203.38.152.97]) by cain.gsoft.com.au (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA22846 for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2000 10:54:15 +0930 (CST) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20000802135547.A2521@judea.rss.riteaid.com> Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2000 10:54:15 +0930 (CST) From: "Daniel O'Connor" To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Irda support Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 02-Aug-00 Jason Kasper wrote: > I realize this may be slightly off-topic, but for the life of me, I > can't find any reference anywhere > (google/altavista/deja.com/freebsd.org/etc.) that would indicate that > anybody is even looking at irda support for freebsd. Are there any > plans to support irda in the freebsd kernel in the upcoming time-frame? A guy called Benno Rice working on IrDA at the moment.. Last I talked to him he said he is going to get the code to a point where it can do an IrCOMM connection and then release the source code.. > Far be it from me to encourage holy wars, but it gets tiring hearing the > linux-user crowd chortling over their kernel's ability to do irda when > mine can't. There are plenty of things FreeBSD does better :) --- Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer for Genesis Software - http://www.gsoft.com.au "The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them to choose from." -- Andrew Tanenbaum To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 2 19:43:24 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from wodc7-1.corprelay.mail.uu.net (wodc7-1.corprelay.mail.uu.net [192.48.96.68]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0884137B5CC for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 19:43:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jamgill@UU.NET) Received: from gen2.ffx.ops.us.uu.net by wodc7mr1.ffx.ops.us.uu.net with ESMTP (peer crosschecked as: intcache02.uu.net [153.39.50.42]) id QQjaow20144 for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2000 02:42:58 GMT Received: from havana.corp.us.uu.net by gen2.ffx.ops.us.uu.net with ESMTP (peer crosschecked as: havana.corp.us.uu.net [153.39.118.149]) id QQjaow22525 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 22:42:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by havana.corp.us.uu.net with ESMTP (peer crosschecked as: jamgill@localhost) id QQjaow26793; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 22:42:54 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 22:42:54 -0400 (EDT) From: Gill X-Sender: jamgill@havana.corp.us.uu.net To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: closet homoeroticism in -STABLE?!? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG such an attention-getting subject, i should write for weekly world news. check out these two entries from /etc/master.passwd : gill:0BI5r7TYic5NI:1001:1001::0:0:gill:/home/gill:/bin/tcsh nill:$1$ZdxdtsZc$gayCmDvdyPyNknWKTOCQL.:1002:1002::0:0:nill:/home/nill:/bin/tcsh they have the same password, but second encrypted one is totally different. the uid 1001 was created yesterday immediately after the 4.1-RELEASE install. the uid 1002 was created after the following steps were taken. is there some change in the hash used for passwords between 4.1-R and 4.1-S? I figured this out when I first couldn't get into my box at _all_ and on subsequent attempts couldn't su root and/or login via telnet/ssh. I have done this now three times with great precision: step 1) install 4.1-RELEASE via FTP with floppies imaged 7/30 -minimal install with: bin, basic crypto, manpages, base /usr/src, /usr/src/sys step 2) install cvsup-bin & screen from ports -CVSup client, GUI version Software version: REL_16_1 -Screen version 3.09.05 (FAU) 1-Sep-99 step 3) copy my 4x-STABLE supfile and Makefile into /root/cvs/ -http://www.freebsddiary.org/samples/makefile.for.build.world -http://www.topsecret.net/gill/INDIAN_4.0-STABLE-supfile note here: i've declined kerberos*, games, and take cvs-crypto step 4) make update, make build, make install, make kernel note here: i got the same problem as described in http://www.geocrawler.com/lists/3/x/152/50/4130003/ and i am currently starting again with make update as I noticed http://www.geocrawler.com/lists/3/x/152/25/4130959/ said it was fixed. any light shed on this is most appreciated! -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --gill | Tatu Ylonen, SSH 1.2.12 README: "Beware that the most effective | way for someone to decrypt your data may be with a rubber hose." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 2 19:59:15 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from zippy.osd.bsdi.com (zippy.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AB9937B593 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 19:59:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.osd.bsdi.com) Received: from localhost (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.osd.bsdi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA02972; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 19:59:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.osd.bsdi.com) To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: Jason Kasper Subject: Re: Irda support In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 02 Aug 2000 13:55:47 CDT." <20000802135547.A2521@judea.rss.riteaid.com> Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 19:59:09 -0700 Message-ID: <2969.965271549@localhost> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > I realize this may be slightly off-topic, but for the life of me, I > can't find any reference anywhere > (google/altavista/deja.com/freebsd.org/etc.) that would indicate that > anybody is even looking at irda support for freebsd. Are there any > plans to support irda in the freebsd kernel in the upcoming time-frame? There's really never been much interest in it, to be honest. If it's something that's interesting to you, I suggest doing a reference implementation and seeing if you can get anyone else fired up about it. I have to wonder what the linux-user crowd is so busy chortling about, myself. I've never had the slightest use for IRDA - maybe if they built laptops with IRDA ports on each side so that you could actually share data with the laptop next to you on the plane... - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 2 20:18:26 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from hermes.yerpso.net (209-164-208-189.telares.com [209.164.208.189]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BD5637B599 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 20:18:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hank@yerpso.net) Received: from W98 (W98.yerpso.net [192.168.1.6]) by hermes.yerpso.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id WAA00299; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 22:17:51 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from hank@yerpso.net) From: "Henry F. Marquardt" To: Cc: "Jason Kasper" Subject: RE: Irda support Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 22:18:12 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <2969.965271549@localhost> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I agree, this is a 'lost' technology, a solution in search of a problem. Even the palm crowd doesn't use it much that I've seen - I remember some of the early marketing hype there with people swapping IR business cards - I don't think I've ever seen anyone do that and I don't think I could figure out how in any reasonable amount of time with mine - it'd be quicker to scribble on a napkin. Same with my laptop, it was configured as com2 and as far as I was concerned just taking up IRQ space - I turned it off when I put FBSD on there. Doesn't mean you should play with it, but what are you going to *use* it for? Hank > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG > [mailto:owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Jordan K. Hubbard > Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2000 9:59 PM > To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG > Cc: Jason Kasper > Subject: Re: Irda support > > > > I realize this may be slightly off-topic, but for the life of me, I > > can't find any reference anywhere > > (google/altavista/deja.com/freebsd.org/etc.) that would indicate that > > anybody is even looking at irda support for freebsd. Are there any > > plans to support irda in the freebsd kernel in the upcoming time-frame? > > There's really never been much interest in it, to be honest. If it's > something that's interesting to you, I suggest doing a reference > implementation and seeing if you can get anyone else fired up about > it. I have to wonder what the linux-user crowd is so busy chortling > about, myself. I've never had the slightest use for IRDA - maybe > if they built laptops with IRDA ports on each side so that you could > actually share data with the laptop next to you on the plane... > > - Jordan > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 2 20:30: 9 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from zippy.osd.bsdi.com (zippy.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1883837B55D for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 20:30:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.osd.bsdi.com) Received: from localhost (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.osd.bsdi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA03121; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 20:29:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.osd.bsdi.com) To: Stefan Schmidt Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 4.1-REL bootloader failure In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 03 Aug 2000 00:10:23 +0200." Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 20:29:48 -0700 Message-ID: <3118.965273388@localhost> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > i recently tried to install an 4.1-REL (2 Floppies) on an dual i386 SCSI A dual i386 box? This would be the first time I'd heard of anything like that. Is it some homebrew horror? > HD 1/2 gig RAM over FTP and chose the expert mode or whatever it is called > again in the Installation-Menu. However everything went just fine, but Do you have multiple SCSI drives installed? Did you install to the first drive or to another drive? It's impossible to diagnose your problem without knowing more, and your hardware already sounds weird. - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 2 20:42:25 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from cain.gsoft.com.au (genesi.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.136.161]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0664437B5D9 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 20:42:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) Received: from cain.gsoft.com.au (doconnor@cain [203.38.152.97]) by cain.gsoft.com.au (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA26574; Thu, 3 Aug 2000 13:11:59 +0930 (CST) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2000 13:11:59 +0930 (CST) From: "Daniel O'Connor" To: "Henry F. Marquardt" Subject: RE: Irda support Cc: Jason Kasper , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 03-Aug-00 Henry F. Marquardt wrote: > I agree, this is a 'lost' technology, a solution in search of a problem. > Even the palm crowd doesn't use it much that I've seen - I remember some of > the early marketing hype there with people swapping IR business cards - I > don't think I've ever seen anyone do that and I don't think I could figure > out how in any reasonable amount of time with mine - it'd be quicker to > scribble on a napkin. Or give them a real business card.. Still, hotsync'ing via IR is neat :) Also, IR to a mobile is nice for making data calls.. --- Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer for Genesis Software - http://www.gsoft.com.au "The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them to choose from." -- Andrew Tanenbaum To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 2 20:43:57 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from accord.grasslake.net (accord.grasslake.net [206.11.249.240]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB88237B5D9 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 20:43:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from swb@grasslake.net) Received: from k6 (k6.grasslake.net [192.168.2.1]) by accord.grasslake.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id WAA19761 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 22:44:43 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from swb@grasslake.net) Message-ID: <016001bffcfd$26af6ea0$0102a8c0@k6> From: "Shawn Barnhart" To: Subject: rdump between two FreeBSD machines Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 22:44:39 -0500 Organization: Grasslake.Net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Is there any documentation on the correct syntax or other related magic to use when doing an rdump between two FreeBSD machines? The manpage for rdump is the same as for dump, but the details about rdumping are left out of it. I've dug on the web site, the handbook, the book, asked my wife to no avail. Can anyone loan me a clue as to what hidden BSD trick I'm missing? I've tried: dumphost# dump foo:/file/system /dev/nrsa0 ..but nothing seems to happen, and yes, I've got dumphost in foo's /etc/hosts.equiv. I have a feeling its got something to do with root on dumphost accessing foo and some security concern that keeps it from happening, but I can't figure it out. Even better, is there a recipe for doing it with ssh? Would love that. But I'd like to know how to do it the simple (if insecure) way, too. -- swb@grasslake.net Hard work often pays off after time, but laziness always pays off now. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 2 20:50: 7 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from jade.chc-chimes.com (jade.chc-chimes.com [216.28.46.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 756CB37B5D9 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 20:50:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from billf@jade.chc-chimes.com) Received: by jade.chc-chimes.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 6B1B01C65; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 23:49:57 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 23:49:57 -0400 From: Bill Fumerola To: Gill Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: closet homoeroticism in -STABLE?!? Message-ID: <20000802234957.F58109@jade.chc-chimes.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: ; from jamgill@UU.NET on Wed, Aug 02, 2000 at 10:42:54PM -0400 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.3-STABLE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Aug 02, 2000 at 10:42:54PM -0400, Gill wrote: > > such an attention-getting subject, i should write for weekly world news. You're a moron and I didn't even read the e-mail past this line. How's that for an attention-getting subject. -- Bill Fumerola - Network Architect, BOFH / Chimes, Inc. billf@chimesnet.com / billf@FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 2 20:52:36 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ns.itga.com.au (ns.itga.com.au [202.53.40.210]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5170037B5FD for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 20:52:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnb@itga.com.au) Received: from lightning.itga.com.au (lightning.itga.com.au [192.168.71.20]) by ns.itga.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA49783; Thu, 3 Aug 2000 13:52:08 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from gnb@itga.com.au) Received: from itga.com.au (lightning.itga.com.au [192.168.71.20]) by lightning.itga.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA15097; Thu, 3 Aug 2000 13:52:06 +1000 (EST) Message-Id: <200008030352.NAA15097@lightning.itga.com.au> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.1 12/23/97 From: Gregory Bond To: "Shawn Barnhart" Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: rdump between two FreeBSD machines In-reply-to: Your message of Wed, 02 Aug 2000 22:44:39 -0500. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2000 13:52:06 +1000 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > dumphost# dump foo:/file/system /dev/nrsa0 No it works the other way - rdump dumps local filesystems to remote tapes. You need foo# rdump /file/system dumphost:/dev/nrsa0 and foo must be in dumphost's ~root/.rhosts file. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 2 20:52:49 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from cain.gsoft.com.au (genesi.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.136.161]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6443C37B72D for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 20:52:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) Received: from cain.gsoft.com.au (doconnor@cain [203.38.152.97]) by cain.gsoft.com.au (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA26711; Thu, 3 Aug 2000 13:22:26 +0930 (CST) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <016001bffcfd$26af6ea0$0102a8c0@k6> Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2000 13:22:26 +0930 (CST) From: "Daniel O'Connor" To: Shawn Barnhart Subject: RE: rdump between two FreeBSD machines Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 03-Aug-00 Shawn Barnhart wrote: > Even better, is there a recipe for doing it with ssh? Would love that. > But I'd like to know how to do it the simple (if insecure) way, too. Try.. ssh -enone root@remote.host.to.dump "dump -0af - /" | dd of=/dev/nrsa0 bs=16k Or dump -0af - | ssh -enone root@remote.host.with.tape "dd of=/dev/nrsa0 bs=16k" --- Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer for Genesis Software - http://www.gsoft.com.au "The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them to choose from." -- Andrew Tanenbaum To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 2 21:29:45 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from accord.grasslake.net (accord.grasslake.net [206.11.249.240]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 980FD37B606 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 21:29:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from swb@grasslake.net) Received: from k6 (k6.grasslake.net [192.168.2.1]) by accord.grasslake.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id XAA19848; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 23:30:30 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from swb@grasslake.net) Message-ID: <01aa01bffd03$8c3d2590$0102a8c0@k6> From: "Shawn Barnhart" To: "Gregory Bond" Cc: References: <200008030352.NAA15097@lightning.itga.com.au> Subject: Re: rdump between two FreeBSD machines Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 23:30:26 -0500 Organization: Grasslake.Net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gregory Bond" To: "Shawn Barnhart" | > dumphost# dump foo:/file/system /dev/nrsa0 | | No it works the other way - rdump dumps local filesystems to remote tapes. | You need | foo# rdump /file/system dumphost:/dev/nrsa0 | and foo must be in dumphost's ~root/.rhosts file. Thanks, although that's less useful than I thought it might be. How might you know that the tape drive isn't being used locally? Why was it implemented that way? Does this date back from the days of starch-shirted PFYs doing the backup interactively? It seems like it'd be simpler to have dumphost grab the other host's filesystem remotely. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 2 21:35:26 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ns.itga.com.au (ns.itga.com.au [202.53.40.210]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 205D537B64B for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 21:35:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnb@itga.com.au) Received: from lightning.itga.com.au (lightning.itga.com.au [192.168.71.20]) by ns.itga.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA49943; Thu, 3 Aug 2000 14:35:19 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from gnb@itga.com.au) Received: from itga.com.au (lightning.itga.com.au [192.168.71.20]) by lightning.itga.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA16377; Thu, 3 Aug 2000 14:35:18 +1000 (EST) Message-Id: <200008030435.OAA16377@lightning.itga.com.au> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.1 12/23/97 From: Gregory Bond To: "Shawn Barnhart" Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: rdump between two FreeBSD machines In-reply-to: Your message of Wed, 02 Aug 2000 23:30:26 -0500. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2000 14:35:18 +1000 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Why was it implemented that way? Because dump needs to seek() all over the raw disk device, but only writes to the tape sequentially. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 2 21:37:44 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from wodc7-1.corprelay.mail.uu.net (wodc7-1.corprelay.mail.uu.net [192.48.96.68]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C72E37B691 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 21:37:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jamgill@UU.NET) Received: from csserve0.corp.us.uu.net by wodc7mr1.ffx.ops.us.uu.net with ESMTP (peer crosschecked as: csserve0.corp.us.uu.net [153.39.203.213]) id QQjape02748 for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2000 04:37:34 GMT Received: from localhost by csserve0.corp.us.uu.net with ESMTP (peer crosschecked as: jamgill@localhost) id QQjape27105 for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2000 00:37:34 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2000 00:37:34 -0400 (EDT) From: Gill X-Sender: jamgill@csserve0.corp.us.uu.net To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: out of the closet Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG i apologize. perhaps after three full installs with careful detailing of the steps and continually getting locked out of every account on the system i too had lost my sense of humor. fine, but read three lines down (into the crypted passwords cut from the /etc/master.passwd) and you would have picked up the wry and clever pun. Thank you to the helpful and quick replies, especially the one that picked up on my knuckleheadedness ... not setting USA_RESIDENT="YES". Thanks, John. again, my apologies if i have offended anyone. I will stay more on-topic in the future. --gill -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --gill | Tatu Ylonen, SSH 1.2.12 README: "Beware that the most effective | way for someone to decrypt your data may be with a rubber hose." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 2 21:52:58 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from evil.2y.net (ztown1-3-26.adsl.one.net [216.23.21.26]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 389EA37B565 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 21:52:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cokane@evil.2y.net) Received: (from cokane@localhost) by evil.2y.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA07506; Thu, 3 Aug 2000 01:01:00 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cokane) Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2000 01:01:00 -0400 From: Coleman Kane To: Tim Zingelman Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG, marcel@scc.nl Subject: Re: Makefile.inc1 & kernel names Message-ID: <20000803010100.A7407@cokane.yi.org> References: <3988A2A1.2E1A2B39@urx.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: ; from zingelman@fnal.gov on Wed, Aug 02, 2000 at 09:10:12PM -0400 X-Vim: vim:tw=70:ts=4:sw=4 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Don't forget to do something in the unlikely event that KERNEL=old Tim Zingelman had the audacity to say: > [I've cc'd the person who, if I'm seeing correctly, has most recently > changed this part of Makefile.inc1 in -CURRENT. Since this keeps > coming up here, and we need -CURRENT to DTRT so we can then get a > MFC to make us happy here in -STABLE] > > > > > [ mv /kernel /kernel.old && mv /YOUR_KERNEL_HERE /kernel ] > > > > > Actually, make installkernel was fixed so that you don't need to do > > > > > this. [ONLY fixed in -CURRENT NOT in -STABLE] > > > > makeoptions KERNEL=kernel #Build kernel "foo" and install "/foo" > > > to your kernel config file it will install it as /kernel without this > > > change; and back up your old one as /kernel.old. I would expect this > > > I have to make a point here and that is I like the current > > arrangement. I would much rather have installkernel make a file called > > MYKERNEL than have it make all kernel's as "kernel".... > > Historically the generic kernel has been named /kernel.GENERIC, not > /GENERIC. If you add 'makeoptions KERNEL=kernel.GENERIC' to the > GENERIC config file, and 'makeoptions KERNEL=kernel' to your custom > kernel config file, you get "close" to an answer... > > IMHO the 'right thing' to do is something like this: > > Allow KERNEL to specify a list of config files (so one can define > KERNEL="MYCUSTOM GENERIC" for instance). > > Have the 'make buildkernel' target build the first one in the list with > KERNEL=kernel, and all the others with KERNEL=kernel.NAME. (in my above > example, MYCUSTOM would get built as kernel and GENERIC would get built > as kernel.GENERIC. > > Have the 'make installkernel' target install the first one in the KERNEL > list with KERNEL=kernel, and all the others with KERNEL=kernel.NAME. > (again my example would install MYCUSTOM in /kernel and GENERIC in > /kernel.GENERIC. > > It would be nice if in this whole process the modules only got built once, > and the pre-existing /kernel got preserved as /kernel.old. Though I think > that all works ok already. > > Here is a patch against Makefile.inc1 from -STABLE, but IT DOES NOT WORK!! > Can someone explain to me what I'm doing wrong? make says: > > "/usr/src/Makefile.inc1", line 1: Malformed conditional (CUSTOM == ${INSTALLKERNEL}) > > That's a 'make buildkernel' with 'KERNEL=CUSTOM GENERIC' in /etc/make.conf > > Thanks, > > - Tim > > Index: Makefile.inc1 > =================================================================== > RCS file: /usr/cvs/src/Makefile.inc1,v > retrieving revision 1.141.2.4 > diff -c -r1.141.2.4 Makefile.inc1 > *** Makefile.inc1 2000/06/17 03:43:06 1.141.2.4 > --- Makefile.inc1 2000/08/03 01:00:06 > *************** > *** 330,337 **** > # Which kernels to build and/or install is specified by setting > # KERNEL. If not defined a GENERIC kernel is built/installed. > # Only the existing (depending MACHINE) config files are used > ! # for building kernels and only the first of these is designated > ! # as the one being installed. > # > # Note that we have to use MACHINE instead of MACHINE_ARCH when > # we're in kernel-land. Since only MACHINE_ARCH is (expected) to > --- 330,339 ---- > # Which kernels to build and/or install is specified by setting > # KERNEL. If not defined a GENERIC kernel is built/installed. > # Only the existing (depending MACHINE) config files are used > ! # for building kernels. The first is installed as /kernel, the > ! # remaining are installed as /kernel.NAME. So setting > ! # KERNEL= CUSTOM GENERIC will result in your CUSTOM kernel installed > ! # as /kernel and GENERIC installed as /kernel.GENERIC > # > # Note that we have to use MACHINE instead of MACHINE_ARCH when > # we're in kernel-land. Since only MACHINE_ARCH is (expected) to > *************** > *** 361,367 **** > .if exists(${KRNLCONFDIR}/${_kernel}) > BUILDKERNELS+= ${_kernel} > .if empty(INSTALLKERNEL) > ! INSTALLKERNEL= ${_kernel} > .endif > .endif > .endfor > --- 363,369 ---- > .if exists(${KRNLCONFDIR}/${_kernel}) > BUILDKERNELS+= ${_kernel} > .if empty(INSTALLKERNEL) > ! INSTALLKERNEL= ${_kernel} > .endif > .endif > .endfor > *************** > *** 377,383 **** > @echo ">>> Rebuilding kernel(s)" > @echo "--------------------------------------------------------------" > .for _kernel in ${BUILDKERNELS} > ! @echo "===> ${_kernel}" > mkdir -p ${KRNLOBJDIR} > cd ${KRNLCONFDIR}; \ > PATH=${TMPPATH} \ > --- 379,390 ---- > @echo ">>> Rebuilding kernel(s)" > @echo "--------------------------------------------------------------" > .for _kernel in ${BUILDKERNELS} > ! .if ${_kernel} == ${INSTALLKERNEL} > ! KERNELNAME= kernel > ! .else > ! KERNELNAME= kernel.${_kernel} > ! .endif > ! @echo "===> ${KERNELNAME}" > mkdir -p ${KRNLOBJDIR} > cd ${KRNLCONFDIR}; \ > PATH=${TMPPATH} \ > *************** > *** 385,405 **** > cd ${KRNLOBJDIR}/${_kernel}; \ > MAKESRCPATH=${KRNLSRCDIR}/dev/aic7xxx \ > ${MAKE} -f ${KRNLSRCDIR}/dev/aic7xxx/Makefile; \ > ! ${WMAKEENV} MACHINE=${MACHINE} KERNEL=${_kernel} \ > ${MAKE} depend; \ > ! ${WMAKEENV} MACHINE=${MACHINE} KERNEL=${_kernel} ${MAKE} all > .endfor > > # > # installkernel > # > ! # Install the kernel defined by INSTALLKERNEL > # > installkernel: > cd ${KRNLOBJDIR}/${INSTALLKERNEL}; \ > ! ${IMAKEENV} MACHINE=${MACHINE} KERNEL=${INSTALLKERNEL} \ > ${MAKE} install > ! > # > # update > # > --- 392,420 ---- > cd ${KRNLOBJDIR}/${_kernel}; \ > MAKESRCPATH=${KRNLSRCDIR}/dev/aic7xxx \ > ${MAKE} -f ${KRNLSRCDIR}/dev/aic7xxx/Makefile; \ > ! ${WMAKEENV} MACHINE=${MACHINE} KERNEL=${KERNELNAME} \ > ${MAKE} depend; \ > ! ${WMAKEENV} MACHINE=${MACHINE} KERNEL=${KERNELNAME} ${MAKE} all > .endfor > > # > # installkernel > # > ! # Install the kernel defined by INSTALLKERNEL as /kernel, > ! # Install all others as kernel.NAME > # > installkernel: > + .for _kernel in ${BUILDKERNELS} > + .if ${_kernel} == ${INSTALLKERNEL} > + KERNELNAME= kernel > + .else > + KERNELNAME= kernel.${_kernel} > + .endif > + @echo "===> ${KERNELNAME}" > cd ${KRNLOBJDIR}/${INSTALLKERNEL}; \ > ! ${IMAKEENV} MACHINE=${MACHINE} KERNEL=${KERNELNAME} \ > ${MAKE} install > ! .endfor > # > # update > # > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > -- Coleman Kane President, UC Free O.S. Users Group - http://pohl.ececs.uc.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 2 21:54:54 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0960F37B606 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 21:54:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA67888; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 22:54:31 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id WAA33895; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 22:54:09 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <200008030454.WAA33895@harmony.village.org> To: andrew@ugh.net.au Subject: Re: telnet connection refused from IP outside subnet Cc: Tim Zingelman , Mike Hoskins , plamendp@bgstore.com, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 03 Aug 2000 11:00:09 +1000." References: Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 22:54:09 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message andrew@ugh.net.au writes: : : : On Wed, 2 Aug 2000, Tim Zingelman wrote: : : > The RFC931 part may be silly, but the PARANOID part keeps out any ip : : RFC931 isn't always silly. _You_ may not be able to trust the results but : the site you complain to may be glad of the info if they know they can : trust their ident server. Assuming that the response wasn't forged, that an intruder didn't tamper with the authd on the remote site or that the logs on the local site weren't altered, then yes, I suppose that you might be able to get some utility out of it. :-) Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 2 22:23:57 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp.nwlink.com (smtp.nwlink.com [209.20.130.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78F4D37B58A for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 22:23:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jcwells@nwlink.com) Received: from utah (jcwells@utah.nwlink.com [209.20.130.41]) by smtp.nwlink.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) with SMTP id WAA20199; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 22:23:53 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 22:36:05 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jason C. Wells" X-Sender: jcwells@utah To: Gill Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: closet homoeroticism in -STABLE?!? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 2 Aug 2000, Gill wrote: > such an attention-getting subject, i should write for weekly world news. I concur. You are a moron. I did get a little bit deeper into your message, however. To answer your question. Add three users all with the same password. You will see that the shadow password is different for all three. (If memory serves) There is something in that whole crypto deal called salt. (If memory serves) The details are up to you. Perhaps when you wrote that you thought you were being clever. I doubt any list in BSD land would enjoy that humor. -stable stays pretty serious. Please refrain from such cleverness in the future. Thank you, Jason C. Wells To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 2 22:28:55 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp.nwlink.com (smtp.nwlink.com [209.20.130.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B431E37B58A for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 22:28:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jcwells@nwlink.com) Received: from utah (jcwells@utah.nwlink.com [209.20.130.41]) by smtp.nwlink.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) with SMTP id WAA21979; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 22:28:50 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 22:41:02 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jason C. Wells" X-Sender: jcwells@utah Reply-To: "Jason C. Wells" To: Bigwillie Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: New In-Reply-To: <4.2.0.58.20000802195236.009cbd20@mail-hub.optonline.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 2 Aug 2000, Bigwillie wrote: > Well according to /usr/src/UPDATING I should be using the build kernel > method. That is where Im at right now, hopefully all stages should go > through smoothly. Ill report how things go. That is good. But puhlease read in the handbook about making world and all that good stuff. UPDATING is a "up to the minute" (sic) document. You still need everything in the handbook. Notably, buildkernel does nat upgrade the entire system. From you message, I would guess you are missing some BIG steps. Thank you, Jason C. Wells To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 2 22:38:54 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mailgw01.execpc.com (mailgw01.execpc.com [169.207.2.78]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E2F037B58A for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 22:38:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hamilton@pobox.com) Received: from woodstock.monkey.net (d65.as14.nwbl0.wi.voyager.net [169.207.134.65]) by mailgw01.execpc.com (8.9.1) id AAA05676; Thu, 3 Aug 2000 00:38:43 -0500 Received: from pobox.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by woodstock.monkey.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 426E416F; Thu, 3 Aug 2000 00:39:41 -0500 (CDT) X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/16/1999 To: "Jason C. Wells" Cc: Gill , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: closet homoeroticism in -STABLE?!? In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 02 Aug 2000 22:36:05 PDT." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2000 00:39:41 -0500 From: Jon Hamilton Message-Id: <20000803053941.426E416F@woodstock.monkey.net> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message , "Jason C. Wells" w rote: } On Wed, 2 Aug 2000, Gill wrote: } } > such an attention-getting subject, i should write for weekly world news. } } I concur. You are a moron. I did get a little bit deeper into your } message, however. } } To answer your question. } } Add three users all with the same password. You will see that the shadow } password is different for all three. (If memory serves) There is something } in that whole crypto deal called salt. (If memory serves) The details are } up to you. I think what he was trying to express was that one password was a DES password, and the other was an MD5 one. -- Jon Hamilton hamilton@pobox.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 2 22:41:26 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mostgraveconcern.com (mostgraveconcern.com [216.82.145.240]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0793B37B6C8 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 22:41:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dan@mostgraveconcern.com) Received: from danco (danco.mostgraveconcern.com [10.20.155.2]) by mostgraveconcern.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id WAA46111; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 22:41:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dan@mostgraveconcern.com) Message-ID: <007f01bffd0d$7195ad20$029b140a@danco> Reply-To: "Dan O'Connor" From: "Dan O'Connor" To: "Gill" , Subject: Re: closet homoeroticism in -STABLE?!? Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 22:41:16 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >gill:0BI5r7TYic5NI:1001:1001::0:0:gill:/home/gill:/bin/tcsh >nill:$1$ZdxdtsZc$gayCmDvdyPyNknWKTOCQL.:1002:1002::0:0:nill:/home/nill:/bin /tcsh Since you seem to have gotten several flames over your subject line, I won't be hard on you (oops, pun intended) Look like the first password might be DES. The second one is definitely MD5 (note the $1$). Perhaps the DES stuff didn't get included when you did your upgrade. I'd start investigating there... --Dan -- Dan O'Connor On Matters of Most Grave Concern http://www.mostgraveconcern.com FreeBSD Cheat Sheets http://www.mostgraveconcern.com/freebsd/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 2 22:42:30 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from boombox.zaphods.net (boombox.zaphods.net [194.97.106.203]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB83337B6EA for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 22:42:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from zaphodb@zaphods.net) Received: from localhost (zaphodb@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by boombox.zaphods.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA19827; Thu, 3 Aug 2000 07:41:57 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from zaphodb@zaphods.net) Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2000 07:41:52 +0200 (CEST) From: Stefan Schmidt To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 4.1-REL bootloader failure In-Reply-To: <3118.965273388@localhost> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On Wed, 2 Aug 2000, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > i recently tried to install an 4.1-REL (2 Floppies) on an dual i386 SCSI > > A dual i386 box? This would be the first time I'd heard of anything > like that. Is it some homebrew horror? sorry, think i were a little distorted :) no its a nice: double Intel Pentium III ("GenuineIntel" 686-class, 512KB L2 cache) 451 MHz on an intel mainboard if i overlook that correctly. > > HD 1/2 gig RAM over FTP and chose the expert mode or whatever it is called > > again in the Installation-Menu. However everything went just fine, but > > Do you have multiple SCSI drives installed? Did you install to the first > drive or to another drive? It's impossible to diagnose your problem > without knowing more, and your hardware already sounds weird. no its the first and one and only scsi disk drive here we go: ncr0 at pci0 dev 11 function 0 "Symbios Logic 53c875" rev 0x26: ultra wide scsi, irq 11 sd0 at scsibus0 targ 0 lun 0: SCSI3 0/direct fixed sd0: 8748MB, 11474 cyl, 5 head, 312 sec, 512 bytes/sec, 17916240 sec total isa0 at pcib0 we habe two of those: fxp0 at pci0 dev 9 function 0 "Intel 82557" rev 0x08: irq 12, address 00:90:27:7 8:58:64 and real mem = 536444928 (523872K) ECC that is i think. no weird hardware, promise :) ciao, Stefan - -- Q: What's the difference between Bell Labs and the Boy Scouts of America? A: The Boy Scouts have adult supervision. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.0 (FreeBSD) Comment: Made with pgp4pine iD8DBQE5iQYlukA5Jvp3yMERAf7ZAJ9XTjEjM6gWiDf3K0Qt6iKI/cxffgCfYABg C5/rXZLfpuSp7d8ut8tNDxw= =q29W -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 2 23:13: 1 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from numeri.campus.luth.se (numeri.campus.luth.se [130.240.197.103]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAC7E37B715 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 23:12:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from k@numeri.campus.luth.se) Received: from numeri.campus.luth.se (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by numeri.campus.luth.se (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA52955; Thu, 3 Aug 2000 08:13:34 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from k@numeri.campus.luth.se) Message-Id: <200008030613.IAA52955@numeri.campus.luth.se> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: Tim Zingelman Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG, marcel@scc.nl Subject: Re: Makefile.inc1 & kernel names In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 02 Aug 2000 20:08:44 CDT." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2000 08:13:33 +0200 From: Johan Karlsson Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At Wed, 02 Aug 2000 20:08:44 CDT, Tim Zingelman wrote: > [I've cc'd the person who, if I'm seeing correctly, has most recently > changed this part of Makefile.inc1 in -CURRENT. Since this keeps > coming up here, and we need -CURRENT to DTRT so we can then get a > MFC to make us happy here in -STABLE] > > Have the 'make buildkernel' target build the first one in the list with > KERNEL=kernel, and all the others with KERNEL=kernel.NAME. (in my above > example, MYCUSTOM would get built as kernel and GENERIC would get built > as kernel.GENERIC. > > Have the 'make installkernel' target install the first one in the KERNEL > list with KERNEL=kernel, and all the others with KERNEL=kernel.NAME. > (again my example would install MYCUSTOM in /kernel and GENERIC in > /kernel.GENERIC. This has been discussed in -current or -arch see PR 17698 for a patch http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=17698 The outcome of the discussion was that multiple kernels are not supported today but a new kernel/module scheme has been proposed and it will hopefully make life easier in the regard. /Johan K To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 2 23:26:10 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from area51.slashnet.org (area51.slashnet.org [208.222.214.95]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6105837B70E for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 23:26:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from smkelly@zombie.org) Received: from edgemaster.zombie.org (cx497943-c.omhaw1.ne.home.com [24.7.36.238]) by area51.slashnet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1241A14D480 for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2000 02:26:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: by edgemaster.zombie.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 7A86C98AD; Thu, 3 Aug 2000 01:26:01 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2000 01:26:01 -0500 From: Sean Kelly To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Broken IPNAT? Message-ID: <20000803012601.A1983@edgemaster.zombie.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.4i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'm "using" IPNAT (not natd) to do IP mapping and port rediction, but it doesn't seem to be working. This same configuration used to work, but somewhere since I last tried to use it (somewhere back in 4.0-STABLE), it has quit working: FreeBSD edgemaster.zombie.org 4.1-STABLE FreeBSD 4.1-STABLE #0: Wed Aug 2 17:23:12 CDT 2000 root@edgemaster.zombie.org:/usr/src/sys/compile/EDGEMASTER i386 (31) root@edgemaster:~$ ipnat -l List of active MAP/Redirect filters: map xl0 192.68.0.0/16 -> 24.7.36.238/32 rdr xl0 24.7.36.238/32 port 51210 -> 192.168.0.2 port 51210 tcp rdr xl0 24.7.36.238/32 port 51201 -> 192.168.0.2 port 51201 udp rdr xl0 24.7.36.238/32 port 51200 -> 192.168.0.2 port 51200 udp rdr xl0 24.7.36.238/32 port 6970 -> 192.168.0.2 port 6970 udp rdr xl0 24.7.36.238/32 port 6972 -> 192.168.0.2 port 6972 udp rdr xl0 24.7.36.238/32 port 6974 -> 192.168.0.2 port 6974 udp (32) root@edgemaster:~$ ifconfig ep0 ep0: flags=8843 mtu 1500 inet 192.168.0.1 netmask 0xffff0000 broadcast 192.168.255.255 ether 00:10:5a:23:7f:41 media: 10baseT/UTP supported media: 10baseT/UTP (33) root@edgemaster:~$ ifconfig xl0 xl0: flags=8843 mtu 1500 inet 24.7.36.238 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 24.7.36.255 ether 00:10:5a:c6:b4:e4 media: 10baseT/UTP (10baseT/UTP ) supported media: 10baseT/UTP 10baseT/UTP 10baseT/UTP ep0 leads to my laptop which is 192.168.0.2. xl0 leads to the Internet. Either I"m stupidly missing something very important, or IPNAT is busted. The connection between the laptop and desktop works, because IPs are resolving and I can ping the desktop. Any and all help on this subect would be much appreciated. Thanks in advance -- Sean Kelly or PGP KeyID: 4AC781C7 http://www.sean-kelly.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 2 23:27:37 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from snafu.adept.org (adsl-63-201-63-44.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [63.201.63.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81B7D37B735 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 23:27:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@adept.org) Received: from localhost (mike@localhost) by snafu.adept.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA16822; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 23:27:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@adept.org) Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 23:27:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Mike Hoskins To: "Jason C. Wells" Cc: Gill , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: closet homoeroticism in -STABLE?!? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 2 Aug 2000, Jason C. Wells wrote: > Add three users all with the same password. You will see that the shadow > password is different for all three. (If memory serves) There is something > in that whole crypto deal called salt. (If memory serves) The details are > up to you. I didn't read his initial post, and if I had... I likely wouldn't waste the time that's going into this message on him, but... "The algorithm that crypt() uses is based on the Data Encryption Standard (DES)... The UNIX crypt() function takes the user's password as the encryption key and uses it to encrypt a 64-bit block of zeros. The resulting 64-bit black of cipher text is then encrypted again with the user's password; the process is repeated a total of 25 times. The finaly 64 bits are unpakced into a string of 11 printable characters that are stored in the /etc/passwd file. ...The DES salt is a 12-bit number, between 0 and 4095, which slightly changes the result of the DES function. Each of the 4096 different salts makes a password encrypt a different way. When you change your password, the /bin/passwd program selects a salt based on the time of day. The salt is converted into a two-character string and is stored in the /etc/passwd file along with the encrypted 'password'. In this manner, when you type your password at login time, the same salt is used again. UNIX stores the salt as the first two characters of the encrypted password." --"Practical UNIX & Internet Security" Simson Garfinkel and Gene Spafford O'Reilly & Associates, Inc. http://www.ora.com -mrh To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 2 23:30: 8 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from snafu.adept.org (adsl-63-201-63-44.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [63.201.63.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83FBB37B729 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 23:30:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@adept.org) Received: from localhost (mike@localhost) by snafu.adept.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA16835; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 23:29:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@adept.org) Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 23:29:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Mike Hoskins To: "Dan O'Connor" Cc: Gill , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: closet homoeroticism in -STABLE?!? In-Reply-To: <007f01bffd0d$7195ad20$029b140a@danco> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 2 Aug 2000, Dan O'Connor wrote: > Look like the first password might be DES. The second one is definitely MD5 > (note the $1$). Ahh, that's what he was asking. Yes, DES passwords won't have non alphanumeric characters in them (I. e. '$'). > Perhaps the DES stuff didn't get included when you did your upgrade. I'd > start investigating there... ls /usr/lib/*des* is a good way to check... -mrh To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 2 23:39:45 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.hcvlny.cv.net (mx1.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.112.76]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3925837B840 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 23:39:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mvanberk@optonline.net) Received: from s1.optonline.net (s1.optonline.net [167.206.112.6]) by mx1.hcvlny.cv.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA26654 for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2000 02:39:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from steinyv (d133-151.jcsnnj.optonline.net [24.189.133.151]) by s1.optonline.net (8.9.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA04647 for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2000 02:39:34 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.20000803023533.00a12da0@mail-hub.optonline.net> X-Sender: mvanberk@mail-hub.optonline.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2000 02:39:13 -0400 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org From: Bigwillie Subject: Re: New In-Reply-To: References: <4.2.0.58.20000802195236.009cbd20@mail-hub.optonline.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Well after 4 hours trying to upgrade, I believe I failed a step or two somewhere, I tried to make installkernel and I got an error stating that a folder didnt exist, (dont remember the correct error), so I just did a install world, updated /etc, /dev and /stand/sysinstall. Im trying it again, following instructions given by www.mostgraveconcern.com/freebsd . Ill see in the morning, Im tired. this thing takes forever on my machine...... Talk to you all soon. At 01:41 AM 8/3/00 , you wrote: >On Wed, 2 Aug 2000, Bigwillie wrote: > > > Well according to /usr/src/UPDATING I should be using the build kernel > > method. That is where Im at right now, hopefully all stages should go > > through smoothly. Ill report how things go. > >That is good. But puhlease read in the handbook about making world and all >that good stuff. UPDATING is a "up to the minute" (sic) document. You >still need everything in the handbook. > >Notably, buildkernel does nat upgrade the entire system. From you message, >I would guess you are missing some BIG steps. > >Thank you, >Jason C. Wells > _________________________________________ Steiny's Studio Pachyderm Productions http://steiny.hypermart.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 2 23:41:48 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.fastnet.co.jp (buta.fine.ad.jp [202.228.129.236]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A0FD37B73C for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 23:41:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kosaka@fastnet.co.jp) Received: from kosaka (fngw [202.228.129.253]) by mail.fastnet.co.jp (8.9.3/3.7W-99121009) with SMTP id PAA28626 for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2000 15:41:41 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from kosaka@fastnet.co.jp) Message-Id: <4.0.1-J.20000803153148.0243fe50@mail.fastnet.co.jp> X-Sender: kosaka@fastnet.co.jp X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0.1-J Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2000 15:41:13 +0900 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org From: Masahiko Kosaka Subject: mlxcontrol Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi all I'm using mylex AcceleRAID 150 and works fine. But I don't know how I will know the status of each HDD,such as "online","hot spare","NG" etc. I think `mlxcontrol status' can do this. but only show following... # mlxcontrol status mlxd0 mlxcontrol: couldn't get controller/drive for /dev/mlxd0 mlxd0: online # Any help would be appreciated. --- FastNet,Inc. Masahiko Kosaka tel:03-5701-8940 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 3 0: 4:59 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from starbug.ugh.net.au (starbug.ugh.net.au [203.31.238.37]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0339737B76B for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2000 00:04:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andrew@ugh.net.au) Received: by starbug.ugh.net.au (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 0FF24A847; Thu, 3 Aug 2000 17:05:26 +1000 (EST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by starbug.ugh.net.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C519544A; Thu, 3 Aug 2000 17:05:26 +1000 (EST) Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2000 17:05:26 +1000 (EST) From: andrew@ugh.net.au To: Warner Losh Cc: Tim Zingelman , Mike Hoskins , plamendp@bgstore.com, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: telnet connection refused from IP outside subnet In-Reply-To: <200008030454.WAA33895@harmony.village.org> Message-ID: X-WonK: *wibble* MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 2 Aug 2000, Warner Losh wrote: > tamper with the authd on the remote site or that the logs on the local > site weren't altered, then yes, I suppose that you might be able to Thats why its up to the remote site to trust it...you are just passing it on to help them identify the individual ITRW. Hopefully they know if they have been exploited or not by then... Andrew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 3 0:13:19 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from alpha.pit.adelphia.net (alpha.pit.adelphia.net [24.48.44.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBAA837B526 for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2000 00:13:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nturki@adelphia.net) Received: from b3s8t6 (dark@pa-indiana1b-27.pit.adelphia.net [24.50.155.27]) by alpha.pit.adelphia.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) with SMTP id DAA09685 for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2000 03:13:05 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <001101bffd1a$a12692e0$1b9b3218@pit.adelphia.net> From: "Nader Turki" To: Subject: Upgrading from 4.1-R to 4.1-S Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2000 03:15:40 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi guys, I just installed fresh FreeBSD 4.1 and wanna upgrade to FreeBSD 4.1-STABLE. Anyway, I did that few times with 3.x and 4.0. I used to cvsup then just cd /usr/src; make world. then recompile my kernel: cd /usr/src/sys/i386/conf /usr/sbin/config MYKERNEL cd ../../compile/MYKERNEL make depend; make; make install And It worked for me all the time, I was checking thew handbook and saw something new which is: # cd /usr/src # make buildkernel KERNEL=MYKERNEL # make installkernel KERNEL=MYKERNEL Do I have to use that way or the old way will work just fine. Thanks, Nader P.S. someone told me that cvs-crypto is a part of src-all now, is that true? so i don't need to have cvs-crypto on my supfile anymore if i'm using scr-all ???? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 3 0:54:12 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from plamen.bgstore.com (bgstore.digsys.bg [193.68.22.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDB7337B816 for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2000 00:54:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from plamendp@plamen.bgstore.com) Received: from localhost (plamendp@localhost) by plamen.bgstore.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA17669; Thu, 3 Aug 2000 10:51:55 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from plamendp@plamen.bgstore.com) Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2000 10:51:55 +0300 (EEST) From: Plamen Petkov To: John Baldwin Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: making a RELEASE In-Reply-To: <200008021848.LAA74841@pike.osd.bsdi.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG What I did: 1. cvsup-ed all sources, just check out, not whole cvs repository 2. make buildworld && make installworld, testing, fine 3. hacking /usr/src/release/Makefile, where, instead of 'cvs'-ing srcs, I just 'cp' them in $CHROOTDIR/src 4. make release 5. about mm... 6 hours and everything is ok, done successfully 6. now i will make a CD(s) and will be happy :-) Well, this is a bit away from the 'standard' release/snap making procedure, but as i said in my prev messages - I do this for me only, to have MY snapshot on a bootable CD, just in case. The price is reasonable - a night of my life :-) ----------------------------------- Plamen D. Petkov (ICQ 2214327 [pdp]) plamendp@bgstore.com FBiS First Bulgarian Internet Store http://www.bgstore.com ----------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 3 0:59:41 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from luna.osd.bsdi.com (luna.geekhouse.net [64.81.6.50]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E10E437B7BD for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2000 00:59:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jim@luna.osd.bsdi.com) Received: by luna.osd.bsdi.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 43C4931A6; Thu, 3 Aug 2000 00:59:28 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2000 00:59:27 -0700 From: Jim Mock To: Nader Turki Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Upgrading from 4.1-R to 4.1-S Message-ID: <20000803005926.A12227@luna.osd.bsdi.com> Reply-To: jim@jmock.com References: <001101bffd1a$a12692e0$1b9b3218@pit.adelphia.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <001101bffd1a$a12692e0$1b9b3218@pit.adelphia.net>; from nturki@adelphia.net on Thu, Aug 03, 2000 at 03:15:40AM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 03 Aug 2000 at 03:15:40 -0400, Nader Turki wrote: > Hi guys, > I just installed fresh FreeBSD 4.1 and wanna upgrade to FreeBSD > 4.1-STABLE. Anyway, I did that few times with 3.x and 4.0. I used to > cvsup then just cd /usr/src; make world. > then recompile my kernel: > cd /usr/src/sys/i386/conf > /usr/sbin/config MYKERNEL > cd ../../compile/MYKERNEL > make depend; make; make install > > And It worked for me all the time, I was checking thew handbook and > saw something new which is: > # cd /usr/src > # make buildkernel KERNEL=MYKERNEL > # make installkernel KERNEL=MYKERNEL > > Do I have to use that way or the old way will work just fine. The new way is preferred. If you use the old way, chances are, it will work fine (it has here), but there are no promises. YMMV. If you cvsup the source, you should get the changes added to the tree tonight that install the kernel as /kernel instead of /MYKERNEL (see /usr/src/UPDATING for more info on the procedure if you don't get the latest changes). Otherwise, you can add the following line to your kernel config file to get it to install as /kernel: makeoptions KERNEL=kernel > P.S. someone told me that cvs-crypto is a part of src-all now, is > that true? Yes. > so i don't need to have cvs-crypto on my supfile anymore if i'm using > scr-all ???? Correct. - jim -- jim mock work: jim@osd.bsdi.com | jim@FreeBSD.org http://soupnazi.org/~jim/ BSDi Open Source Div | http://bsdi.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 3 3: 2:17 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from www10.gmx.net (www.gmx.net [194.221.183.50]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9C6C137B90D for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2000 03:02:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jean.peindray@gmx.net) Received: (qmail 29191 invoked by uid 0); 3 Aug 2000 10:02:10 -0000 Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2000 12:02:10 +0200 (MEST) From: jean.peindray@gmx.net To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: i4b 0.90 and 4.1-RELEASE X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-Authenticated-Sender: #0000939926@gmx.net X-Authenticated-IP: [193.26.143.106] Message-ID: <29115.965296930@www10.gmx.net> X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 1.5 (Global Message Exchange) X-Flags: 0001 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi out there, I newly installed 4.1-RELEASE. As I run /usr/local/src/i4b/overinstall.sh, it stops while trying to patch /usr/src/sys/i386/conf/files.i386 I had a short look around and found out that files.i386 is located under /usr/src/sys/conf/ and not under /usr/src/sys/i386/conf/. I tried to 1) modify overinstall.sh 2) move files.i386 onto /usr/src/sys/i386/conf/, but on both cases while building a new kernel 'make depend' also fails (with something like "Don't know how to make i4b_usr_sti.c). I think that there already exists a patch for overinstall.sh (and overuninstall.sh) but I don't know where to get it. Can someone help me? Thanks in advance Jean -- Sent through GMX FreeMail - http://www.gmx.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 3 3: 2:25 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from alpha.pit.adelphia.net (alpha.pit.adelphia.net [24.48.44.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1158637B90D for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2000 03:02:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nturki@adelphia.net) Received: from b3s8t6 (pa-indiana1b-27.pit.adelphia.net [24.50.155.27]) by alpha.pit.adelphia.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) with SMTP id GAA19171; Thu, 3 Aug 2000 06:02:07 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <000501bffd32$3d7604c0$1b9b3218@pit.adelphia.net> From: "Nader Turki" To: Cc: References: <001101bffd1a$a12692e0$1b9b3218@pit.adelphia.net> <20000803005926.A12227@luna.osd.bsdi.com> Subject: Re: Upgrading from 4.1-R to 4.1-S Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2000 06:04:40 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG So the way it works is: - cvsup - cd /usr/src - make world - make buildkernel KERNEL=MYKERNEL - make installkernel KERNEL=MYKERNEL - reboot is that it? Thanks, Nader ----- Original Message ----- From: Jim Mock To: Nader Turki Cc: Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2000 3:59 AM Subject: Re: Upgrading from 4.1-R to 4.1-S > On Thu, 03 Aug 2000 at 03:15:40 -0400, Nader Turki wrote: > > Hi guys, > > I just installed fresh FreeBSD 4.1 and wanna upgrade to FreeBSD > > 4.1-STABLE. Anyway, I did that few times with 3.x and 4.0. I used to > > cvsup then just cd /usr/src; make world. > > then recompile my kernel: > > cd /usr/src/sys/i386/conf > > /usr/sbin/config MYKERNEL > > cd ../../compile/MYKERNEL > > make depend; make; make install > > > > And It worked for me all the time, I was checking thew handbook and > > saw something new which is: > > # cd /usr/src > > # make buildkernel KERNEL=MYKERNEL > > # make installkernel KERNEL=MYKERNEL > > > > Do I have to use that way or the old way will work just fine. > > The new way is preferred. If you use the old way, chances are, it will > work fine (it has here), but there are no promises. YMMV. > > If you cvsup the source, you should get the changes added to the tree > tonight that install the kernel as /kernel instead of /MYKERNEL (see > /usr/src/UPDATING for more info on the procedure if you don't get the > latest changes). Otherwise, you can add the following line to your > kernel config file to get it to install as /kernel: > > makeoptions KERNEL=kernel > > > P.S. someone told me that cvs-crypto is a part of src-all now, is > > that true? > > Yes. > > > so i don't need to have cvs-crypto on my supfile anymore if i'm using > > scr-all ???? > > Correct. > > - jim > > -- > jim mock work: jim@osd.bsdi.com | jim@FreeBSD.org > http://soupnazi.org/~jim/ BSDi Open Source Div | http://bsdi.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 3 4:46:11 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from continuity.e-boxen.com (continuity.e-boxen.com [207.153.61.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7743237B90D for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2000 04:46:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kkemp@nwcr.net) Received: (qmail 65540 invoked by uid 0); 3 Aug 2000 11:46:07 -0000 Received: from ip-64-38-158-141.dialup.seanet.com (HELO kemp) (fnwcr@64.38.158.141) by continuity.e-boxen.com with SMTP; 3 Aug 2000 11:46:07 -0000 From: "Keith Kemp" To: Subject: Vinum Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2000 04:46:17 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <000501bffd32$3d7604c0$1b9b3218@pit.adelphia.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I was wondering if there where any pages on how to setup vinum for RAID5 that are aimed at less experienced FBSD users? the man page appears to have anything it just assumes knowledge of a lot of things that I have delt with yet. Thanks, Keith Kemp To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 3 5:21:34 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dsl.telocity.com (dsl-2.sjc.telocity.net [216.227.56.99]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 748A237B705 for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2000 05:21:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bellefso@execpc.com) Received: from dsl-64-34-45-85.telocity.com ([64.34.45.85] helo=packfan) by dsl.telocity.com with smtp (Exim 3.13 #7) id 13KK16-0000Gs-00 for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Thu, 03 Aug 2000 05:22:28 -0700 From: "Brian" To: "Freebsd-Stable" Subject: Tekram DC390U3W Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2000 07:21:30 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, I have this card working using 4.1-STABLE. The only problem that I am seeing is the speed of the drive is being reported as 3.3 MB/sec. I know there were some problems with the DC390U2W that have been fixed, something to do with the NVRAM if I remember correctly. What I am wondering is if there is a fix that I can apply, or a workaround that will get the drive running at Ultra2 speeds. Thanks in advance, Brian To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 3 5:22:16 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de (dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de [139.174.243.252]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B639C37B663 for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2000 05:21:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from olli@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de) Received: (from olli@localhost) by dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA81518; Thu, 3 Aug 2000 14:21:24 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from olli) Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2000 14:21:24 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <200008031221.OAA81518@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de> From: Oliver Fromme To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: making a RELEASE X-Newsgroups: list.freebsd-stable In-Reply-To: <8mb956$1pja$1@atlantis.rz.tu-clausthal.de> Organization: Administration TU Clausthal MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: tin/1.4.1-19991201 ("Polish") (UNIX) (FreeBSD/3.4-19991219-STABLE (i386)) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In list.freebsd-stable Plamen Petkov wrote: > 3. hacking /usr/src/release/Makefile, where, instead of 'cvs'-ing srcs, I > just 'cp' them in $CHROOTDIR/src Using tar (or star from the ports) is probably better than cp. > Well, this is a bit away from the 'standard' release/snap making > procedure, but as i said in my prev messages - I do this for me only, to > have MY snapshot on a bootable CD, just in case. The price is reasonable - > a night of my life :-) And what is the advantage over simply making a backup of your disk? Regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme, Leibnizstr. 18/61, 38678 Clausthal, Germany (Info: finger userinfo:olli@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de) Addresses will change soon!! If in doubt: www.fromme.com "In jedem Stück Kohle wartet ein Diamant auf seine Geburt" (Terry Pratchett) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 3 5:26: 5 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de (dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de [139.174.243.252]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B4FC37B781 for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2000 05:25:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from olli@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de) Received: (from olli@localhost) by dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA81748; Thu, 3 Aug 2000 14:25:46 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from olli) Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2000 14:25:46 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <200008031225.OAA81748@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de> From: Oliver Fromme To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Irda support X-Newsgroups: list.freebsd-stable In-Reply-To: <8maps0$1fn3$1@atlantis.rz.tu-clausthal.de> Organization: Administration TU Clausthal MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: tin/1.4.1-19991201 ("Polish") (UNIX) (FreeBSD/3.4-19991219-STABLE (i386)) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In list.freebsd-stable Daniel O'Connor wrote: > Or give them a real business card.. > > Still, hotsync'ing via IR is neat :) If I'm not mistaken, the IR feature of the Palm (at least the Palm III) isn't even Irda, but some proprietary stuff. Regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme, Leibnizstr. 18/61, 38678 Clausthal, Germany (Info: finger userinfo:olli@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de) Addresses will change soon!! If in doubt: www.fromme.com "In jedem Stück Kohle wartet ein Diamant auf seine Geburt" (Terry Pratchett) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 3 5:31:29 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from bumper.jellybaby.net (bumper.jellybaby.net [194.159.247.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFBB437B663 for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2000 05:31:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from simond@bumper.jellybaby.net) Received: (from simond@localhost) by bumper.jellybaby.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) id NAA45710 for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Thu, 3 Aug 2000 13:31:15 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from simond) Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2000 13:31:15 +0100 From: simond@irrelevant.org To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Irda support Message-ID: <20000803133115.A39660@irrelevant.org> References: <8maps0$1fn3$1@atlantis.rz.tu-clausthal.de> <200008031225.OAA81748@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <200008031225.OAA81748@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de>; from olli@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de on Thu, Aug 03, 2000 at 02:25:46PM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Aug 03, 2000 at 02:25:46PM +0200, Oliver Fromme wrote: > In list.freebsd-stable Daniel O'Connor wrote: > > Or give them a real business card.. > > > > Still, hotsync'ing via IR is neat :) > > If I'm not mistaken, the IR feature of the Palm (at least > the Palm III) isn't even Irda, but some proprietary stuff. It can be both, OS3.3 and higher support transparent IrCOMM use and IR hotsync with PCs via IrCOMM -- Simon Dick simond@irrelevant.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 3 5:34:53 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from hiro.netizen.com.au (ivanova.netizen.com.au [203.30.75.107]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DC9637B634 for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2000 05:34:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from benno@netizen.com.au) Received: by hiro.netizen.com.au (Postfix, from userid 516) id 33F87215EC; Thu, 3 Aug 2000 22:34:42 +1000 (EST) Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2000 22:34:41 +1000 From: Benno Rice To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Irda support Message-ID: <20000803223441.H3777@netizen.com.au> References: <8maps0$1fn3$1@atlantis.rz.tu-clausthal.de> <200008031225.OAA81748@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <200008031225.OAA81748@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de>; from olli@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de on Thu, Aug 03, 2000 at 02:25:46PM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Aug 03, 2000 at 02:25:46PM +0200, Oliver Fromme wrote: > In list.freebsd-stable Daniel O'Connor wrote: > > Or give them a real business card.. > > > > Still, hotsync'ing via IR is neat :) > > If I'm not mistaken, the IR feature of the Palm (at least > the Palm III) isn't even Irda, but some proprietary stuff. The Palms actually have proper IrDA. The Nokia 7110 and 8810 have full IrDA support as well, as do some of the higher Ericsson's. The Nokia 6110 and 6150 have IR, but it's not IrDA. A lot of those phones aren't available in the US though, IIRC. -- Benno Rice "No, no. We're *sweet* and XNFP Aries Dark Subculture- *innocent* evil bastards." friendly Internet Geek benno@netizen.com.au "Defend your joy" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 3 6: 4:11 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from fw1.riteaid.com (fw1.riteaid.com [204.28.140.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98D8C37B958 for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2000 06:04:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from j_dot_kasper@www.usa.net) Received: by fw1.riteaid.com; id JAA02480; Thu, 3 Aug 2000 09:04:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from unknown(10.1.3.133) by fw1.riteaid.com via smap (4.1) id xma002422; Thu, 3 Aug 00 09:03:53 -0400 Received: from halcyon.net ([172.16.32.145]) by mail.corp.riteaid.com (8.7.3 Version 1.1 Build 562/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA00060 for ; Thu, 03 Aug 2000 08:59:46 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time) Received: (qmail 543 invoked by uid 1001); 3 Aug 2000 14:00:41 -0000 Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2000 09:00:40 -0500 From: Jason Kasper To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Irda support Message-ID: <20000803090040.A505@judea.rss.riteaid.com> Reply-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.4i In-Reply-To: ; from doconnor@gsoft.com.au on Thu, Aug 03, 2000 at 01:11:59PM +0930 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Absolutely hotsync'ing via IR is neat. I carry my Palm (like the card-carrying geek-member that I am) everywhere I go. But I'll be darned if I want to have to carry my hotsync cradle everywhere that I take my laptop. Bottom line, it is much more convenient to grab something off the net and install it via IR in 5 seconds than have to wait until I get home and then remember to do it before I leave the house.... Anyhoo, I've not gotten what I'm assuming is at least 2 previous messages in this thread, but it looks like IR is not on anybody's priority list for the FBSD kernel? * Daniel O'Connor [000803 13:46]: > > On 03-Aug-00 Henry F. Marquardt wrote: > > I agree, this is a 'lost' technology, a solution in search of a problem. > > Even the palm crowd doesn't use it much that I've seen - I remember some of > > the early marketing hype there with people swapping IR business cards - I > > don't think I've ever seen anyone do that and I don't think I could figure > > out how in any reasonable amount of time with mine - it'd be quicker to > > scribble on a napkin. > > Or give them a real business card.. > > Still, hotsync'ing via IR is neat :) > > Also, IR to a mobile is nice for making data calls.. > > --- > Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer > for Genesis Software - http://www.gsoft.com.au > "The nice thing about standards is that there > are so many of them to choose from." > -- Andrew Tanenbaum > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Jason Kasper (vanRijn) Systems Engineer bash$ :(){ :|:&};: VORFA To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 3 6:10:41 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from hiro.netizen.com.au (ivanova.netizen.com.au [203.30.75.107]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A62AC37B80A for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2000 06:10:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from benno@netizen.com.au) Received: by hiro.netizen.com.au (Postfix, from userid 516) id B1C41215EC; Thu, 3 Aug 2000 23:10:34 +1000 (EST) Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2000 23:10:34 +1000 From: Benno Rice To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Irda support Message-ID: <20000803231034.K3777@netizen.com.au> References: <20000803090040.A505@judea.rss.riteaid.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <20000803090040.A505@judea.rss.riteaid.com>; from j_dot_kasper@www.usa.net on Thu, Aug 03, 2000 at 09:00:40AM -0500 X-Message-Flag: Outlook: More exploits than sendmail? Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Aug 03, 2000 at 09:00:40AM -0500, Jason Kasper wrote: > Absolutely hotsync'ing via IR is neat. I carry my Palm (like the > card-carrying geek-member that I am) everywhere I go. But I'll be > darned if I want to have to carry my hotsync cradle everywhere that I > take my laptop. Bottom line, it is much more convenient to grab > something off the net and install it via IR in 5 seconds than have to > wait until I get home and then remember to do it before I leave the > house.... Anyhoo, I've not gotten what I'm assuming is at least 2 > previous messages in this thread, but it looks like IR is not on > anybody's priority list for the FBSD kernel? Well it's on mine, but I'm a way off yet. I hope to make some significant progress this weekend, which may or may not result in a vaguely functional IrLAP netgraph node. Then I need to write an IrLMP node, a TinyTP node and an IrCOMM node. Then you'll be able to HotSync, assuming your laptop's IR port shows up as a serial device. =) -- Benno Rice "No, no. We're *sweet* and XNFP Aries Dark Subculture- *innocent* evil bastards." friendly Internet Geek benno@netizen.com.au "Defend your joy" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 3 6:16:59 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.nxe.de (mail.nxe.de [212.42.225.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00AB337B926 for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2000 06:16:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nora@sappho-net.de) Received: by mail.nxe.de (8.10.2/nora-20000620) for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG (envelope-from nora) id e73DGow28499; Thu, 3 Aug 2000 15:16:50 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2000 15:16:50 +0200 From: Nora Etukudo To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: making a RELEASE Message-ID: <20000803151650.A27387@mail.nxe.de> References: <8mb956$1pja$1@atlantis.rz.tu-clausthal.de> <200008031221.OAA81518@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <200008031221.OAA81518@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de>; from olli@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de on Thu, Aug 03, 2000 at 02:21:24PM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Aug 03, 2000 at 02:21:24PM +0200, Oliver Fromme wrote: > > have MY snapshot on a bootable CD, just in case. The price is > > reasonable - a night of my life :-) > > And what is the advantage over simply making a backup > of your disk? If I have such a CD, I can it auto install on several machines, without further investigation. This is much less time consuming than a cloneing from a backup. Just my 0.02 euro. Liebe Grüße, Nora. -- nora@sappho-net.de http://www.sappho-net.de/ Lesbian Computer Networks, Finland http://www.sappho.net/ Web for Women (von Frauen, für Frauen) http://www.w4w.net/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 3 6:31:48 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail3.megatrends.com (mail3.megatrends.com [155.229.80.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46B5437B72E for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2000 06:31:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vineshc@ami.com) Received: by atl_es1.megatrends.com with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1461.28) id <3N6ZB43L>; Thu, 3 Aug 2000 09:37:22 -0400 Message-ID: <4A78850EF802D211BB3900805FFE55550BA86E@atl_es1.megatrends.com> From: Vinesh Christopher To: 'Gill' , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: RE: closet homoeroticism in -STABLE?!? Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2000 09:37:21 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1461.28) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I also ran into the same problem. I couldn't login to my box after upgrading from 4.0-S to 4.1-R > -----Original Message----- > From: Gill [SMTP:jamgill@UU.NET] > Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2000 10:43 PM > To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org > Subject: closet homoeroticism in -STABLE?!? > > > such an attention-getting subject, i should write for weekly world news. > > check out these two entries from /etc/master.passwd : > > gill:0BI5r7TYic5NI:1001:1001::0:0:gill:/home/gill:/bin/tcsh > nill:$1$ZdxdtsZc$gayCmDvdyPyNknWKTOCQL.:1002:1002::0:0:nill:/home/nill:/bi > n/tcsh > > they have the same password, but second encrypted one is totally > different. the uid 1001 was created yesterday immediately after the > 4.1-RELEASE install. the uid 1002 was created after the following steps > were taken. is there some change in the hash used for passwords between > 4.1-R and 4.1-S? > > I figured this out when I first couldn't get into my box at _all_ and on > subsequent attempts couldn't su root and/or login via telnet/ssh. > > I have done this now three times with great precision: > > step 1) install 4.1-RELEASE via FTP with floppies imaged 7/30 > -minimal install with: bin, basic crypto, manpages, base /usr/src, > /usr/src/sys > step 2) install cvsup-bin & screen from ports > -CVSup client, GUI version Software version: REL_16_1 > -Screen version 3.09.05 (FAU) 1-Sep-99 > step 3) copy my 4x-STABLE supfile and Makefile into /root/cvs/ > -http://www.freebsddiary.org/samples/makefile.for.build.world > -http://www.topsecret.net/gill/INDIAN_4.0-STABLE-supfile > note here: i've declined kerberos*, games, and take cvs-crypto > step 4) make update, make build, make install, make kernel > note here: i got the same problem as described in > http://www.geocrawler.com/lists/3/x/152/50/4130003/ > and i am currently starting again with make update as I noticed > http://www.geocrawler.com/lists/3/x/152/25/4130959/ said it was > fixed. > > any light shed on this is most appreciated! > > -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- > --gill | Tatu Ylonen, SSH 1.2.12 README: "Beware that the most effective > | way for someone to decrypt your data may be with a rubber hose." > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 3 6:32: 4 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from slarti.muc.de (slarti.muc.de [193.149.48.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 92B9537B9A1 for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2000 06:31:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rse@en1.engelschall.com) Received: (qmail 21002 invoked by uid 66); 3 Aug 2000 13:39:58 -0000 Received: from en by slarti with UUCP; Thu Aug 3 13:39:58 2000 -0000 Received: by en1.engelschall.com (Sendmail 8.9.3+3.2W) for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org id PAA75178; Thu, 3 Aug 2000 15:22:32 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2000 15:22:32 +0200 From: "Ralf S. Engelschall" To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: [PROCEDURE] Successful 3.5-S to 4.1-S upgrade Message-ID: <20000803152232.A74889@engelschall.com> Reply-To: rse@engelschall.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.4i Organization: Engelschall, Germany. X-Web-Homepage: http://www.engelschall.com/ X-PGP-Public-Key: https://www.engelschall.com/ho/rse/pgprse.asc X-PGP-Fingerprint: 00 C9 21 8E D1 AB 70 37 DD 67 A2 3A 0A 6F 8D A5 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This week we've moved all of our 3.5-STABLE boxes to 4.1-STABLE. As others already determined, the steps in /usr/src/UPDATING are not sufficient for a successful and smooth upgrade. While we upgraded machine after machine this week, we had to adjust and enhance our upgrade procedure many times. Now that all of our machines were successfully upgraded, I want to share our experiences with you by forwarding you our last version of the procedure. I'm sure some steps can be simplified or perhaps even left out, but I did not care very much about optimizations or speedups. For us it was just important that the upgrade worked correctly. And that's the case with the above steps. I hope this procedure can help you a little bit in upgrading your boxes, too. Yours, Ralf S. Engelschall rse@engelschall.com www.engelschall.com Upgrading from FreeBSD 3.5-STABLE to FreeBSD 4.1-STABLE Ralf S. Engelschall , August 2000 ======================================================= o boot the old FreeBSD 3.x in multi-user mode o provide a particular build environment $ vi /etc/make.conf NOPERL=true # else Perl would fail to build under 3.x initially NOPROFILE=true # to speed up building MAKE_RSAINTL=YES # for non-US USA_RESIDENT=NO # dito. CFLAGS=-O -pipe # standard optimization COPTFLAGS=-O -pipe # dito. COMPAT1X=yes # install compatibility libraries COMPAT20=yes # dito. COMPAT21=yes # dito. COMPAT22=yes # dito. COMPAT3X=yes # dito. o provide boot-strapping run-time environment $ mkdir -p /usr/obj/usr/src/lib/libc $ ldconfig -R /usr/obj/usr/src/lib/libc o build the world initially (still under FreeBSD 3.x run-time) $ cd /usr/obj $ chflags -R noschg * $ rm -rf * $ cd /usr/src $ make buildworld o build and install new GENERIC kernel+modules $ make buildkernel KERNEL=GENERIC $ make installkernel KERNEL=GENERIC $ chflags noschg /kernel.GENERIC /GENERIC $ mv /kernel.GENERIC /kernel.GENERIC.3 $ mv /GENERIC /kernel.GENERIC $ chflags schg /kernel.GENERIC o upgrade FOO kernel config from 3.x to 4.x $ vi /sys/i386/conf/FOO - remove "config kernel ...", "bio", "tty", "net", "conflicts" - remove unnecessary quotations - remove "pnp" device - remove "acd0" device - remove obsolete options (check output of "config FOO") - replace some "xxx0" with "xxx" (compare LINT for details) - replace "controller" & "disk" with "device" - replace "wdc0" with "ata0" plus more "ata*" from GENERIC - replace "bpfilter" with "bpf" - replace "isa?" with "atkbdc?" for "atkbd0" and "psm0" device o build and install new FOO kernel+modules $ make buildkernel KERNEL=FOO $ make installkernel KERNEL=FOO $ chflags noschg /kernel /FOO $ mv /kernel /kernel.3 $ mv /FOO /kernel $ chflags schg /kernel o upgrade devices $ cd /usr/src/sbin/mknod && make install $ cp /usr/src/etc/MAKEDEV* /dev $ cd /dev $ sh MAKEDEV all - make sure really all devices for disks exists: for N in the list of disks sh MAKEDEV N # eg ad0 for M in the list of slices sh MAKEDEV NsMa # eg ad0s1a - edit /etc/fstab and replace "wd0" with "ad0" o upgrade boot blocks and loader $ cd /sys/boot && make install o boot FreeBSD 4.x kernel (still with 3.x user-land) in single-user mode $ shutdown -r now > boot -s $ mount -a o install the world $ cd /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/texinfo/install-info $ make install $ ldconfig -R /usr/obj/usr/src/lib/libc $ cd /usr/src $ make installworld $ cd /usr/src/release/sysinstall && make all install o upgrade /etc $ cp -rp /etc /etc.old $ mergemaster -v -s o final adjustments for new FreeBSD 4.x user-land $ touch /var/log/security $ touch /var/log/cron $ rm /var/cron/log* o switch to new shipped OpenSSH [OPTIONAL!] $ ssh-keygen -f /etc/ssh/ssh_host_key $ ssh-keygen -d -f /etc/ssh/ssh_host_dsa_key $ vi /etc/rc.conf sshd_enable="YES" $ pkg_delete ssh-1.2.27 o boot FreeBSD 4.x kernel and user-land in multi-user mode $ shutdown -r now o rebuild some criticial programs to avoid spurious segfaults under the forthcoming final "buildworld/installworld" step $ vi /etc/make.conf #NOPERL=true $ cd /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl $ (cd libperl && make all install) $ (cd perl && make all install) $ make clean all install $ cd /usr/src/usr.bin/lex && make clean all install $ cd /usr/src/usr.bin/yacc && make clean all install $ cd /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/as && make clean all install $ cd /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc && make clean all install $ cd /usr/src/gnu/lib/libgcc && make clean all install o build and install the world finally from scratch (under FreeBSD 4.x run-time) $ cd /usr/obj $ chflags -R noschg * $ rm -rf * $ cd /usr/src $ make buildworld $ make installworld o rebuild the kernel with the final tools $ cd /sys/i386/conf $ config FOO $ cd /sys/compile/FOO $ make depend all $ make install o reboot to switch to the final FreeBSD 4.x system $ shutdown -r now To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 3 6:49:17 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ns2.equilibrate.net (ns2.equilibrate.net [193.173.72.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFD4C37B72E for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2000 06:49:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jascha@ns2.equilibrate.net) Received: (from jascha@localhost) by ns2.equilibrate.net (8.9.3/8.9.3/EQ_1.2_MD) id PAA01674 for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org; Thu, 3 Aug 2000 15:49:02 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2000 15:49:02 +0200 From: Jascha Hoogenraad To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: Adaptec 2940u2w + 4.1-stable from 2-8 Message-ID: <20000803154902.A470@equilibrate.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary=PNTmBPCT7hxwcZjr; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.5i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --PNTmBPCT7hxwcZjr Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear FreeBSD world, i have the following problem and i hope you know an answer for it: I run 4.1-stable (from 2-8 from ftp.nl.freebsd.org) i get this error: www.p0.s0: fatal write I/O error scsi0: fatal drive I/O error vinum: drive scsi0 is down vinum: mail.p0.s0 is crashed vinum: mail.p0 is faulty vinum: mail is down (da0:ahc0:0:0:0): Synchronize cache failed, status =3D=3D 0x5b, scsi status= =3D=3D 0x0 (da0:ahc0:0:0:0): Invalidating pack www.p0.s0: fatal write I/O error scsi0: fatal drive I/O error (da0:ahc0:0:0:0): Invalidating pack www.p0.s0: fatal write I/O error scsi0: fatal drive I/O error (da0:ahc0:0:0:0): Invalidating pack www.p0.s0: fatal write I/O error scsi0: fatal drive I/O error (da0:ahc0:0:0:0): Invalidating pack www.p0.s0: fatal write I/O error scsi0: fatal drive I/O error (da0:ahc0:0:0:0): Invalidating pack www.p0.s0: fatal write I/O error scsi0: fatal drive I/O error (da0:ahc0:0:0:0): Invalidating pack www.p0.s0: fatal write I/O error scsi0: fatal drive I/O error (da0:ahc0:0:0:0): Invalidating pack www.p0.s0: fatal write I/O error scsi0: fatal drive I/O error (da0:ahc0:0:0:0): Invalidating pack If anyone knows where this comes from and/or how to fix this i would be gra= tefull.. I'm a very faithfull FreeBSD user and have never had real big trou= bles with FreeBSD till 4.x, maybe it's just an hardware error, but the scsi= bios tests en checkit tests run without much problems.. my dmesg is: Copyright (c) 1992-2000 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 4.1-STABLE #0: Thu Aug 3 12:55:07 GMT 2000 root@www2.equilibrate.net:/www/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/WWW2 Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz CPU: Pentium III/Pentium III Xeon/Celeron (602.19-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin =3D "GenuineIntel" Id =3D 0x683 Stepping =3D 3 Features=3D0x383f9ff real memory =3D 536854528 (524272K bytes) config> q avail memory =3D 519086080 (506920K bytes) Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc031c000. Preloaded userconfig_script "/boot/kernel.conf" at 0xc031c09c. Pentium Pro MTRR support enabled md0: Malloc disk npx0: on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface pcib0: on motherboard pci0: on pcib0 pcib2: at device 1.0 on = pci0 pci1: on pcib2 pci1: at 0.0 irq 11 isab0: at device 4.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 atapci0: port 0xb800-0xb80f at device 4.1 on= pci0 ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0 ata1: at 0x170 irq 15 on atapci0 pci0: at 4.2 irq 12 ahc0: port 0xb000-0xb0ff mem 0xe1000000-= 0xe10 00fff irq 10 at device 11.0 on pci0 ahc0: aic7890/91 Wide Channel A, SCSI Id=3D7, 16/255 SCBs xl0: <3Com 3c905B-TX Fast Etherlink XL> port 0xa800-0xa87f mem 0xe0800000-0= xe080 007f irq 12 at device 13.0 on pci0 xl0: Ethernet address: 00:50:da:df:3c:05 miibus0: on xl0 xlphy0: <3Com internal media interface> on miibus0 xlphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto pcib1: on motherboard pci2: on pcib1 fdc0: at port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa0 fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0 atkbdc0: at port 0x60,0x64 on isa0 atkbd0: irq 1 on atkbdc0 vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 sc0: on isa0 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=3D0x200> sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa0 sio0: type 16550A sio1 at port 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa0 sio1: type 16550A ppc0: at port 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on isa0 ppc0: SMC-like chipset (ECP/EPP/PS2/NIBBLE) in COMPATIBLE mode ppc0: FIFO with 16/16/9 bytes threshold lpt0: on ppbus0 lpt0: Interrupt-driven port ad0: 12407MB [25209/16/63] at ata0-master using UDMA66 acd0: CDROM at ata1-master using PIO4 Waiting 15 seconds for SCSI devices to settle Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad0s1a da0 at ahc0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-3 device da0: 80.000MB/s transfers (40.000MHz, offset 31, 16bit), Tagged Queueing En= abled da0: 17522MB (35885168 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 2233C) vinum: loaded vinum: reading configuration from /dev/da0s1e Kind Regards, Jascha Hoogenraad --=20 Jascha Hoogenraad Equilibrate Networking - Voice: +31-70-3364900 - Fax: +31-70-3364901 --PNTmBPCT7hxwcZjr Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3ia iQCVAwUBOYl4TtiyeT6k//vtAQEaNAP/SVzXNgOuru9874hk5rmtM7HpPKHB+VI0 9yN7Wv1UsXtXKvo6Bkhc/PX37HG8Qc7ZA19jfTEQpxC+JryTNko4EncJqamjtR81 PcqgiYGVao4jaGQg0QM2gHEQkLXzFwfj+bPFO2c++ZLFQuBw/xAixM4bMpsvPINn aDdZCDthWd4= =ACqM -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --PNTmBPCT7hxwcZjr-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 3 7:11:12 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail3.megatrends.com (mail3.megatrends.com [155.229.80.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFE3037B94C for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2000 07:11:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vineshc@ami.com) Received: by atl_es1.megatrends.com with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1461.28) id <3N6ZB4P6>; Thu, 3 Aug 2000 10:16:33 -0400 Message-ID: <4A78850EF802D211BB3900805FFE55550BA86F@atl_es1.megatrends.com> From: Vinesh Christopher To: 'Keith Kemp' , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: Vinum Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2000 10:16:32 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1461.28) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Try these 1) Man pages of vinum(8) and vinum(4) 2) http://www.lemis.com/vinum > -----Original Message----- > From: Keith Kemp [SMTP:kkemp@nwcr.net] > Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2000 7:46 AM > To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: Vinum > > I was wondering if there where any pages on how to setup vinum for RAID5 > that are aimed at less experienced FBSD users? the man page appears to > have > anything it just assumes knowledge of a lot of things that I have delt > with > yet. > > Thanks, > > Keith Kemp > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 3 7:18:16 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from privatecube.privatelabs.com (privatecube.privatelabs.com [198.143.31.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 549F337B81B for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2000 07:18:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mi@virtual-estates.net) Received: from misha.privatelabs.com (misha.privatelabs.com [198.143.31.6]) by privatecube.privatelabs.com (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id JAA28256; Thu, 3 Aug 2000 09:16:50 -0400 Received: from virtual-estates.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by misha.privatelabs.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA37960; Thu, 3 Aug 2000 10:13:08 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mi@virtual-estates.net) Message-Id: <200008031413.KAA37960@misha.privatelabs.com> Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2000 10:13:07 -0400 (EDT) From: mi@aldan.algebra.com Subject: RE: Irda support To: "Henry F. Marquardt" Cc: stable@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 2 Aug, Henry F. Marquardt wrote: = I agree, this is a 'lost' technology, a solution in search of a = problem. Even the palm crowd doesn't use it much that I've seen - I = remember some of the early marketing hype there with people swapping = IR business cards - I don't think I've ever seen anyone do that and I = don't think I could figure out how in any reasonable amount of time = with mine - it'd be quicker to scribble on a napkin. Right -- and then you end up with dozens of those napkins piling up. Or not you -- your company's business people, who will then force YOU to support their Windoz machines, because Windoz does have support for the IR and the software that makes use of it... -mi (who sees his client's executives exchange data with their Palm Pilots over IR quite often and efficient) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 3 7:27: 8 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de (dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de [139.174.243.252]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AB4E37B955 for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2000 07:26:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from olli@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de) Received: (from olli@localhost) by dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA90444; Thu, 3 Aug 2000 16:26:53 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from olli) Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2000 16:26:53 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <200008031426.QAA90444@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de> From: Oliver Fromme To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: making a RELEASE X-Newsgroups: list.freebsd-stable In-Reply-To: <8mbrki$24ac$1@atlantis.rz.tu-clausthal.de> Organization: Administration TU Clausthal MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: tin/1.4.1-19991201 ("Polish") (UNIX) (FreeBSD/3.4-19991219-STABLE (i386)) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In list.freebsd-stable Nora Etukudo wrote: > On Thu, Aug 03, 2000 at 02:21:24PM +0200, Oliver Fromme wrote: > > > have MY snapshot on a bootable CD, just in case. The price is > > > reasonable - a night of my life :-) > > > > And what is the advantage over simply making a backup > > of your disk? > > If I have such a CD, I can it auto install on several machines, without > further investigation. This is much less time consuming than a cloneing > from a backup. Yes, I know that. But Plamen Petkov wrote that he just needed a crash recovery for a single box. In that case, making a full release and putting it on CD-R is a complete waste of time, IMO. You have to make regular backups anyway, except if you don't care about your data at all (and then you can just re-install from your latest release CD-ROM and start over from there). Regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme, Leibnizstr. 18/61, 38678 Clausthal, Germany (Info: finger userinfo:olli@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de) Addresses will change soon!! If in doubt: www.fromme.com "In jedem Stück Kohle wartet ein Diamant auf seine Geburt" (Terry Pratchett) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 3 7:42:54 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from plamen.bgstore.com (bgstore.digsys.bg [193.68.22.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2563437B60F for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2000 07:42:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from plamendp@plamen.bgstore.com) Received: from localhost (plamendp@localhost) by plamen.bgstore.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA02523; Thu, 3 Aug 2000 17:40:22 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from plamendp@plamen.bgstore.com) Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2000 17:40:22 +0300 (EEST) From: Plamen Petkov To: Nora Etukudo Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: making a RELEASE In-Reply-To: <20000803151650.A27387@mail.nxe.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG That's true, as well as I said " just in case " :-). I find CD a much safer media than a Hard Disk backup, except tapes. Also, I can give it to my friends to popularize my lovely FreeBSD. Actualy, if go further this way, sure, I can list at least 10 good reasons to have a CD with MY-stable-snapshot, i mean , instalable. Currently I have a server running 3.4R, pluged in my ISP's LAN. I will leave it with this 3.4R until I have a good, tested, and fine working installable CD with My-stable-snapshot. Then, I wll go and "Upgrade" my 3.4R server. Otherwise, I have to get this 3.4R machine at home, cvsup sources again, make installworld again etc. I hope you get the point ? ----------------------------------- Plamen D. Petkov (ICQ 2214327 [pdp]) plamendp@bgstore.com FBiS First Bulgarian Internet Store http://auction.bgstore.com http://www.bgstore.com ----------------------------------- On Thu, 3 Aug 2000, Nora Etukudo wrote: > On Thu, Aug 03, 2000 at 02:21:24PM +0200, Oliver Fromme wrote: > > > > have MY snapshot on a bootable CD, just in case. The price is > > > reasonable - a night of my life :-) > > > > And what is the advantage over simply making a backup > > of your disk? > > If I have such a CD, I can it auto install on several machines, without > further investigation. This is much less time consuming than a cloneing > from a backup. > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 3 7:45:45 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from plamen.bgstore.com (bgstore.digsys.bg [193.68.22.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BEA137B84C for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2000 07:45:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from plamendp@plamen.bgstore.com) Received: from localhost (plamendp@localhost) by plamen.bgstore.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA02552 for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2000 17:43:19 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from plamendp@plamen.bgstore.com) Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2000 17:43:19 +0300 (EEST) From: Plamen Petkov To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: making a RELEASE In-Reply-To: <200008031426.QAA90444@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I never said that, but, I do backups every week, as everybody do, right ? :-) Well, 10x for advises and opinions, folks! :-) ----------------------------------- Plamen D. Petkov (ICQ 2214327 [pdp]) plamendp@bgstore.com FBiS First Bulgarian Internet Store http://auction.bgstore.com http://www.bgstore.com ----------------------------------- On Thu, 3 Aug 2000, Oliver Fromme wrote: > But Plamen Petkov wrote that he just needed a crash recovery > for a single box. In that case, making a full release and > putting it on CD-R is a complete waste of time, IMO. > You have to make regular backups anyway, except if you don't > care about your data at all (and then you can just re-install > from your latest release CD-ROM and start over from there). > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 3 7:46:50 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from drugs.dv.isc.org (wireless-132-208.ietf.marconi.com [147.73.132.208]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0091437B9E9 for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2000 07:46:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marka@nominum.com) Received: from nominum.com (localhost.dv.isc.org [127.0.0.1]) by drugs.dv.isc.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA42052 for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2000 00:48:22 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from marka@nominum.com) Message-Id: <200008031448.AAA42052@drugs.dv.isc.org> To: stable@freebsd.org From: Mark.Andrews@nominum.com Subject: Re: Suggestion for change of /usr/src/UPDATING (was: Re: HEADS UP! Always use the 'make buildkernel' target to make yer kernels) In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 02 Aug 2000 22:54:10 +0100." <20000802225410.D236@parish> Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2000 00:48:22 +1000 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Personally, having ~20 years experience building and installing kernels. I would prefer kernels to be installed as kernel. where is replaced by the config file name. This allows multiple kernels to be installed in a standardised manner. Replacing /kernel (/unix, /vmunix etc.) should be a explicit manual step. Mark -- Mark Andrews, Nominum Inc. 1 Seymour St., Dundas Valley, NSW 2117, Australia PHONE: +61 2 9871 4742 INTERNET: Mark.Andrews@nominum.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 3 7:55: 4 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from server26.ilap.com (server26-main.ilap.com [216.223.128.41]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4804F37B8C6 for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2000 07:54:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from phorechuk@docucom.ca) Received: from horechup (server11.docucom.ca [216.223.156.11]) by server26.ilap.com (Pro-8.9.3/8.9.3/ILAP.COM Internet Light and Power Inc.) with SMTP id KAA00788 for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2000 10:54:54 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <042a01bffd5a$a29f5c20$73f8d7a5@docucom.ca> Reply-To: "Paul Horechuk" From: "Paul Horechuk" To: Subject: cvsup and thanks Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2000 10:53:50 -0400 Organization: DocuCom Imaging Solutions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I cvsup'ed @ 22:00 EST on 2 August (from 4.1RC #12). I then went to /usr/src and issued a make world. When I checked this morning, I noticed that the process completed in just under two hours, successfully. I just want to say, thanks and well done! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 3 8: 8:17 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from srcso.globis.ru (globis.ru [212.248.80.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AA8837B9A5 for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2000 08:08:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from igor@raduga.dyndns.org) Received: from raduga.dyndns.org (raduga.sochi.net [212.248.82.76]) by srcso.globis.ru (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA26836 for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2000 19:21:28 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from igor@raduga.dyndns.org) Received: (from igor@localhost) by raduga.dyndns.org (8.10.0/8.10.0) id e73F78E00681 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Thu, 3 Aug 2000 19:07:08 +0400 Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2000 19:07:08 +0400 From: Igor Roboul To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Realtek 8029 Message-ID: <20000803190708.A577@linux.rainbow> Reply-To: igorr@crosswinds.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre4i X-Operating-System: Linux linux.rainbow 2.2.14-plus-SMP X-Best-Window-Manager: Window Maker (www.windowmaker.org) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, I have just moved one Realtek 8029 based card from my Linux server into FBSD server. Now I don't know which driver I need enable :-( I have found in Handbook that it is supported (PCI NE2000), but I can't find which device I need :-((( FreeBSD demon.rainbow 4.1-STABLE FreeBSD 4.1-STABLE #0: Mon Jul 31 10:50:32 MSD I hope that somebody can can give fast help. Sorry for not so good English. PS. I'm new to FreeBSD. -- Igor Roboul, Unix System Administrator & Programmer @ sanatorium "Raduga" http://www.brainbench.com/transcript.jsp?pid=304744 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 3 8:13:33 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from vinyl.sentex.ca (vinyl.sentex.ca [209.112.4.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B01F37B9A5 for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2000 08:13:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from granite.sentex.net (granite-atm.sentex.ca [209.112.4.1]) by vinyl.sentex.ca (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA11919; Thu, 3 Aug 2000 11:13:29 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from simoeon.sentex.net (simeon.sentex.ca [209.112.4.47]) by granite.sentex.net (8.8.8/8.6.9) with ESMTP id LAA07940; Thu, 3 Aug 2000 11:13:28 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.0.20000803110549.030f5ca0@marble.sentex.ca> X-Sender: mdtpop@marble.sentex.ca X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2000 11:09:04 -0400 To: igorr@crosswinds.net, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG From: Mike Tancsa Subject: Re: Realtek 8029 In-Reply-To: <20000803190708.A577@linux.rainbow> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG You want to ask this question on the questions@freebsd.org list. The stable list has to do with issues specific to tracking the stable branch. As to your question, it should work with device ed1 in your config file ---Mike At 07:07 PM 8/3/00 +0400, Igor Roboul wrote: >Hello, > >I have just moved one Realtek 8029 based card from my Linux server into FBSD >server. Now I don't know which driver I need enable :-( >I have found in Handbook that it is supported (PCI NE2000), but I can't >find which device I need :-((( > >FreeBSD demon.rainbow 4.1-STABLE FreeBSD 4.1-STABLE #0: Mon Jul 31 >10:50:32 MSD > >I hope that somebody can can give fast help. > >Sorry for not so good English. > >PS. >I'm new to FreeBSD. > >-- >Igor Roboul, Unix System Administrator & Programmer @ sanatorium "Raduga" >http://www.brainbench.com/transcript.jsp?pid=304744 > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Mike Tancsa, tel +1 519 651 3400 Sentex Communications mike@sentex.net Cambridge, Ontario Canada www.sentex.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 3 8:13:42 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from EI-Tiger.ChipChat.ne.jp (EI-Tiger.ChipChat.ne.jp [211.5.237.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0EE437B9DD for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2000 08:13:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mrc@ChipChat.ne.jp) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by EI-Tiger.ChipChat.ne.jp (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA00521 for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2000 15:13:26 GMT (envelope-from mrc@ChipChat.ne.jp) To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Move passwd info from 3.5-S to 4.1-S X-Mailer: Mew version 1.93 on XEmacs 20.4 (Emerald) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20000803151326W.mrc@ChipChat.ne.jp> Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2000 15:13:26 GMT From: Marty Cawthon X-Dispatcher: imput version 980905(IM100) Lines: 27 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have FreeBSD 3.5-Stable running. Am preparing a new hard disk with FreeBSD 4.1-Stable to replace it. To move the user account information (passwords, User IDs, Initial Group ID) I plan to move these files: /etc/passwd /etc/master.passwd /etc/pwd.db /etc/spwd.db I will boot the 3.5 system, mount the 4.1 hard drive root at /mnt/oroot and "cp /etc/passwd /mnt/oroot/etc/passwd". With this I hope to avoid any peculiar "file locking" of these files once the 4.1 system is running. Two questions: 1) Are these (4) files sufficient or are other files needed? (I realize that /etc/group is also important) 2) Can these files simply be moved from a 3.5 system to a 4.1 system, or is there a change of file format? I read the online handbook, and the section regarding users did not describe this situation. Also perused the man pages. Marty Cawthon ChipChat To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 3 8:17:36 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pawn.primelocation.net (pawn.primelocation.net [205.161.238.235]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB41537B905 for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2000 08:17:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cdf.lists@fxp.org) Received: by pawn.primelocation.net (Postfix, from userid 1016) id 34E8B9B1C; Thu, 3 Aug 2000 11:17:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pawn.primelocation.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 296E0BA11; Thu, 3 Aug 2000 11:17:31 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2000 11:17:31 -0400 (EDT) From: "Chris D. Faulhaber" X-Sender: cdf.lists@pawn.primelocation.net To: igorr@crosswinds.net Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Realtek 8029 In-Reply-To: <20000803190708.A577@linux.rainbow> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 3 Aug 2000, Igor Roboul wrote: > Hello, > > I have just moved one Realtek 8029 based card from my Linux server into FBSD > server. Now I don't know which driver I need enable :-( > I have found in Handbook that it is supported (PCI NE2000), but I can't > find which device I need :-((( > > FreeBSD demon.rainbow 4.1-STABLE FreeBSD 4.1-STABLE #0: Mon Jul 31 10:50:32 MSD > > I hope that somebody can can give fast help. > /sys/i386/conf/GENERIC and /sys/i386/conf/LINT are your friends. Simply search for RealTek and you should find what you are looking for. ----- Chris D. Faulhaber - jedgar@fxp.org - jedgar@FreeBSD.org -------------------------------------------------------- FreeBSD: The Power To Serve - http://www.FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 3 8:23: 7 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from vinyl.sentex.ca (vinyl.sentex.ca [209.112.4.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1DDE37BA02 for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2000 08:23:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from granite.sentex.net (granite-atm.sentex.ca [209.112.4.1]) by vinyl.sentex.ca (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA13829; Thu, 3 Aug 2000 11:22:59 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from simoeon.sentex.net (simeon.sentex.ca [209.112.4.47]) by granite.sentex.net (8.8.8/8.6.9) with ESMTP id LAA11627; Thu, 3 Aug 2000 11:22:58 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.0.20000803111525.02caae50@marble.sentex.ca> X-Sender: mdtpop@marble.sentex.ca X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2000 11:18:35 -0400 To: Marty Cawthon , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG From: Mike Tancsa Subject: Re: Move passwd info from 3.5-S to 4.1-S In-Reply-To: <20000803151326W.mrc@ChipChat.ne.jp> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 03:13 PM 8/3/00 +0000, Marty Cawthon wrote: >I have FreeBSD 3.5-Stable running. >Am preparing a new hard disk with FreeBSD 4.1-Stable to replace it. > >To move the user account information (passwords, User IDs, Initial Group ID) >I plan to move these files: Just copy over /etc/groups and /etc/master.passwd, and on the new system, vipw and then save the file. (or pwd_mkdb) I will boot the 3.5 system, mount the 4.1 hard drive root at /mnt/oroot >and "cp /etc/passwd /mnt/oroot/etc/passwd". With this I hope to avoid >any peculiar "file locking" of these files once the 4.1 system is running. Also, make sure that the uids under 100 are sane and that any added on your 4.x machine are still there when you merge your files in. ---Mike ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Mike Tancsa, tel +1 519 651 3400 Sentex Communications mike@sentex.net Cambridge, Ontario Canada www.sentex.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 3 8:29:44 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from voyager.bxscience.edu (voyager.bxscience.edu [167.206.32.174]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 244E937BA48 for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2000 08:29:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chenkinj@voyager.bxscience.edu) Received: from voyager.bxscience.edu (localhost.bxscience.edu [127.0.0.1]) by voyager.bxscience.edu (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id e73FTKl95335; Thu, 3 Aug 2000 11:29:20 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200008031529.e73FTKl95335@voyager.bxscience.edu> To: Marty Cawthon , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Move passwd info from 3.5-S to 4.1-S In-reply-to: (Your message of Thu, 03 Aug 2000 15:13:26 GMT.) <20000803151326W.mrc@ChipChat.ne.jp> Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2000 11:29:19 -0400 From: Jared Chenkin Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <20000803151326W.mrc@ChipChat.ne.jp>, Marty Cawthon writes: >I will boot the 3.5 system, mount the 4.1 hard drive root at /mnt/oroot >and "cp /etc/passwd /mnt/oroot/etc/passwd". With this I hope to avoid I doubt that you want to do that.. # cp /mnt/orooot/etc/passwd /etc/passwd Unless you want the new password file on your 3.5 box :) >any peculiar "file locking" of these files once the 4.1 system is running. > >Two questions: > 1) Are these (4) files sufficient or are other files needed? > (I realize that /etc/group is also important) Yeah, the group file has some significant importance :) Depending on what your 3.5 server was doing you may want to compare /etc/inetd.conf and other such files, like your ppp config files if you use ppp, etc etc Plus any config files for ports that may have build and use on your old system. (check /usr/local/etc) I am assuming that /home is on a separate hd or at least a separate slice so that it can be mounted when you switch to the 4.1 hd. I am also assuming that these are in the same machine..? I don't think that was clear. > > 2) Can these files simply be moved from a 3.5 system to a 4.1 system, > or is there a change of file format? The password and group file haven't change formats. There may be new groups or different group names with the same gids that you may want to look into. Read the docs on updating with make world (after the actual make, it explains stuff about how to sync the appropriate system config files. This may or may not apply, but its worth checking out if you havent already.) > >I read the online handbook, and the section regarding users did not >describe this situation. Also perused the man pages. > >Marty Cawthon >ChipChat > > Good luck! Live Large, Jared Chenkin (AIM: DevNull24) Networked Systems Administrator Bronx Science Computing To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 3 8:30:53 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.yourfit.com (28.wxfr1.xdsl.nauticom.net [209.195.150.61]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42F2037B94D for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2000 08:30:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from behanna@zbzoom.net) Received: from armani.yourfit.com (armani.yourfit.com [192.168.1.120]) by mail.yourfit.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA01411; Thu, 3 Aug 2000 11:30:25 -0400 Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2000 11:30:25 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time) From: Chris BeHanna Reply-To: Chris BeHanna To: Nader Turki Cc: jim@jmock.com, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Upgrading from 4.1-R to 4.1-S In-Reply-To: <000501bffd32$3d7604c0$1b9b3218@pit.adelphia.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 3 Aug 2000, Nader Turki wrote: > So the way it works is: > - cvsup > - cd /usr/src shutdown now > - make world > - make buildkernel KERNEL=MYKERNEL > - make installkernel KERNEL=MYKERNEL > - reboot > > is that it? You should go to single-user mode if you're going to make world (see above). Regards, Chris BeHanna Software Engineer (at yourfit.com) behanna@zbzoom.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 3 8:33: 8 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.mdanderson.org (mail.mdacc.tmc.edu [143.111.87.47]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8728037B603 for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2000 08:32:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fosburgh@flash.net) Received: from jefnt (jef-nt.mdacc.tmc.edu [143.111.64.202]) by mail.mdanderson.org (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with SMTP id KAA08696; Thu, 3 Aug 2000 10:27:17 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <02f801bffd5f$c37a5d00$ca406f8f@mdacc.tmc.edu> From: "Jonathan Fosburgh" To: "Chris D. Faulhaber" , Cc: References: Subject: Re: Realtek 8029 Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2000 10:30:31 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG You should add device ed to your kernel config file. Jonathan Fosburgh Open Systems Communications and Computer Services UT MD Anderson Cancer Center Houston, TX 77030 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris D. Faulhaber" To: Cc: Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2000 10:17 AM Subject: Re: Realtek 8029 > On Thu, 3 Aug 2000, Igor Roboul wrote: > > > Hello, > > > > I have just moved one Realtek 8029 based card from my Linux server into FBSD > > server. Now I don't know which driver I need enable :-( > > I have found in Handbook that it is supported (PCI NE2000), but I can't > > find which device I need :-((( > > > > FreeBSD demon.rainbow 4.1-STABLE FreeBSD 4.1-STABLE #0: Mon Jul 31 10:50:32 MSD > > > > I hope that somebody can can give fast help. > > > > /sys/i386/conf/GENERIC and /sys/i386/conf/LINT are your friends. Simply > search for RealTek and you should find what you are looking for. > > ----- > Chris D. Faulhaber - jedgar@fxp.org - jedgar@FreeBSD.org > -------------------------------------------------------- > FreeBSD: The Power To Serve - http://www.FreeBSD.org > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 3 8:34:43 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from alpha.root-servers.ch (alpha.root-servers.ch [195.49.62.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 254EA37BA1D for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2000 08:34:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gabriel_ambuehl@buz.ch) Received: (qmail 22397 invoked from network); 3 Aug 2000 15:34:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO 10.2.2.100) (62.2.98.229) by ns1.root-servers.ch with SMTP; 3 Aug 2000 15:34:35 -0000 Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2000 17:35:58 +0200 From: Gabriel Ambuehl X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.45 Beta/6) Personal Organization: BUZ Internet Services X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <60197317687.20000803173558@buz.ch> To: Mark.Andrews@nominum.com Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re[2]: Suggestion for change of /usr/src/UPDATING (was: Re: HEADS UP! Always use the 'make buildkernel' target to make yer kernels) In-reply-To: <200008031448.AAA42052@drugs.dv.isc.org> References: <200008031448.AAA42052@drugs.dv.isc.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello Mark, Thursday, August 03, 2000, 4:48:22 PM, you wrote: > Personally, having ~20 years experience building and installing > kernels. I would prefer kernels to be installed as > kernel. where is replaced by the config file name. > This allows multiple kernels to be installed in a standardised > manner. > Replacing /kernel (/unix, /vmunix etc.) should be a explicit > manual step. If you use make builkernel / installkernel (the recommended procedure for updating. As I'm too lazy to have different scripts for almost the same job, I use it all the time ;-) to do the job, the kernel will end up as /. Best regards, Gabriel To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 3 8:35:52 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 953A437BCE6 for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2000 08:35:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA69971; Thu, 3 Aug 2000 09:35:41 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id JAA02986; Thu, 3 Aug 2000 09:35:37 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <200008031535.JAA02986@harmony.village.org> To: Benno Rice Subject: Re: Irda support Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 03 Aug 2000 23:10:34 +1000." <20000803231034.K3777@netizen.com.au> References: <20000803231034.K3777@netizen.com.au> <20000803090040.A505@judea.rss.riteaid.com> Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2000 09:35:37 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <20000803231034.K3777@netizen.com.au> Benno Rice writes: : Well it's on mine, but I'm a way off yet. I hope to make some significant : progress this weekend, which may or may not result in a vaguely functional : IrLAP netgraph node. Then I need to write an IrLMP node, a TinyTP node and : an IrCOMM node. Then you'll be able to HotSync, assuming your laptop's IR : port shows up as a serial device. =) Personally, I'd love to be able to use the IRda port since it is faster than the serial port on my WinCE machines. However, I have less than zero time for this. Buying an ethernet card fixed this problem (which really was a problem on how to get netbsd boot images to the wince machine, but I digress). Even if we have irda support in the kernel, hotsync takes an additional protocol layer, kinda like FTP but not really. It is the same as having IP but no ftpd I guess is what I'm trying to say. Microsoft doesn't document the hotsync protocol at all :-(. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 3 8:38:42 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from alpha.root-servers.ch (alpha.root-servers.ch [195.49.62.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E305037BB28 for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2000 08:38:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gabriel_ambuehl@buz.ch) Received: (qmail 22444 invoked from network); 3 Aug 2000 15:38:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO 10.2.2.100) (62.2.98.229) by ns1.root-servers.ch with SMTP; 3 Aug 2000 15:38:29 -0000 Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2000 17:39:49 +0200 From: Gabriel Ambuehl X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.45 Beta/6) Personal Organization: BUZ Internet Services X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <21197548249.20000803173949@buz.ch> To: Chris BeHanna Cc: Nader Turki , jim@jmock.com, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re[2]: Upgrading from 4.1-R to 4.1-S In-reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello Chris, Thursday, August 03, 2000, 5:30:25 PM, you wrote: > You should go to single-user mode if you're going to make world > (see above). I even do make installworld (from 4-S to 4-S, wouldn't risk it when changing a major release but 4.1 to 4-S shouldn't be a big difference at the moment) while running normal and never encountered any problems. So why should I switch to single user mode (which is pretty unsexy for production 24x7 servers anyway...)? Best regards, Gabriel To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 3 8:53:58 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.yourfit.com (28.wxfr1.xdsl.nauticom.net [209.195.150.61]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4656B37B538 for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2000 08:53:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from behanna@zbzoom.net) Received: from armani.yourfit.com (armani.yourfit.com [192.168.1.120]) by mail.yourfit.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA01727 for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2000 11:53:52 -0400 Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2000 11:53:52 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time) From: Chris BeHanna Reply-To: Chris BeHanna To: FreeBSD-Stable Subject: RE: closet homoeroticism in -STABLE?!? In-Reply-To: <4A78850EF802D211BB3900805FFE55550BA86E@atl_es1.megatrends.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 3 Aug 2000, Vinesh Christopher wrote: > I also ran into the same problem. I couldn't login to my box after upgrading > from 4.0-S to 4.1-R > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Gill [SMTP:jamgill@UU.NET] > > Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2000 10:43 PM > > To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org > > Subject: closet homoeroticism in -STABLE?!? > > > > > > such an attention-getting subject, i should write for weekly world news. > > check out these two entries from /etc/master.passwd : > > > > gill:0BI5r7TYic5NI:1001:1001::0:0:gill:/home/gill:/bin/tcsh > > nill:$1$ZdxdtsZc$gayCmDvdyPyNknWKTOCQL.:1002:1002::0:0:nill:/home/nill:/bi > > n/tcsh > > > > they have the same password, but second encrypted one is totally > > different. the uid 1001 was created yesterday immediately after the > > 4.1-RELEASE install. the uid 1002 was created after the following steps > > were taken. is there some change in the hash used for passwords between > > 4.1-R and 4.1-S? The installation gives you the option of using the traditional UNIX encryption or MD5. I gather you used the latter on your upgrade. Worst case, boot from floppy, get into the fixit shell, and fixit. -- Chris BeHanna Software Engineer (at yourfit.com) behanna@zbzoom.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 3 9: 4:17 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.yourfit.com (28.wxfr1.xdsl.nauticom.net [209.195.150.61]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFD6537B5F5 for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2000 09:04:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from behanna@zbzoom.net) Received: from armani.yourfit.com (armani.yourfit.com [192.168.1.120]) by mail.yourfit.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA01852; Thu, 3 Aug 2000 12:03:54 -0400 Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2000 12:03:54 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time) From: Chris BeHanna Reply-To: Chris BeHanna To: Gabriel Ambuehl Cc: Nader Turki , jim@jmock.com, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Re[2]: Upgrading from 4.1-R to 4.1-S In-Reply-To: <21197548249.20000803173949@buz.ch> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 3 Aug 2000, Gabriel Ambuehl wrote: > Hello Chris, > > Thursday, August 03, 2000, 5:30:25 PM, you wrote: > > > You should go to single-user mode if you're going to make world > > (see above). > > I even do make installworld (from 4-S to 4-S, wouldn't risk it > when changing a major release but 4.1 to 4-S shouldn't be a big > difference at the moment) while running normal and never encountered > any problems. So why should I switch to single user mode (which is > pretty unsexy for production 24x7 servers anyway...)? /usr/src/UPDATING recommends it because you're going to be changing executables and libraries out from under currently-running daemons. This could cause failures in spectacular fashion for any executables that dynamically load libraries that may have changed since the time the daemon was started. If you want to minimize the downtime, do "make buildworld" in multi-user mode instead, then drop to single-user mode and do "make installworld" and reboot. -- Chris BeHanna Software Engineer (at yourfit.com) behanna@zbzoom.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 3 9:19:14 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from alpha.root-servers.ch (alpha.root-servers.ch [195.49.62.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7CD8F37B51D for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2000 09:19:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gabriel_ambuehl@buz.ch) Received: (qmail 23071 invoked from network); 3 Aug 2000 16:19:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO 10.2.2.100) (62.2.98.229) by ns1.root-servers.ch with SMTP; 3 Aug 2000 16:19:01 -0000 Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2000 18:20:25 +0200 From: Gabriel Ambuehl X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.45 Beta/6) Personal Organization: BUZ Internet Services X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <52199984923.20000803182025@buz.ch> To: Chris BeHanna Cc: Nader Turki , jim@jmock.com, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re[4]: Upgrading from 4.1-R to 4.1-S In-reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello Chris, Thursday, August 03, 2000, 6:03:54 PM, you wrote: > /usr/src/UPDATING recommends it because you're going to be > changing executables and libraries out from under currently-running > daemons. This could cause failures in spectacular fashion for any > executables that dynamically load libraries that may have changed > since the time the daemon was started. One problem persists: How should I drop to singleuser mode on colocated servers? Pretty hard to do without driving to them. Perhaps some script could do the job, where would I have to place it in order to get them executed when single user mode is entered (one just shouldn't forget the exit at the end ;-)? Best regards, Gabriel To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 3 10: 3:12 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from jade.chc-chimes.com (jade.chc-chimes.com [216.28.46.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 462F137B5B5 for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2000 10:03:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from billf@jade.chc-chimes.com) Received: by jade.chc-chimes.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 926631C70; Thu, 3 Aug 2000 13:03:04 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2000 13:03:04 -0400 From: Bill Fumerola To: Gabriel Ambuehl Cc: Chris BeHanna , Nader Turki , jim@jmock.com, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Upgrading from 4.1-R to 4.1-S Message-ID: <20000803130304.M58109@jade.chc-chimes.com> References: <52199984923.20000803182025@buz.ch> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <52199984923.20000803182025@buz.ch>; from gabriel_ambuehl@buz.ch on Thu, Aug 03, 2000 at 06:20:25PM +0200 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.3-STABLE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Aug 03, 2000 at 06:20:25PM +0200, Gabriel Ambuehl wrote: > One problem persists: How should I drop to singleuser mode on > colocated servers? Pretty hard to do without driving to them. Serial consoles and OOB access make the world go 'round. What? You don't have OOB access? I bet the next time you drive out there you will set it up.. :-> -- Bill Fumerola - Network Architect, BOFH / Chimes, Inc. billf@chimesnet.com / billf@FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 3 10: 9:29 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from phb.avic.dk (phb.avic.dk [212.54.72.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8175637B566 for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2000 10:09:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jens@fallesen.dk) Received: from fallesen.dk (dilbert.avic.dk [212.54.72.26]) by phb.avic.dk (8.9.3/8.9.3/PHB/11[AntiSpam]) with ESMTP id TAA19326 for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2000 19:09:21 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <3989A741.E4814902@fallesen.dk> Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2000 19:09:21 +0200 From: Jens Fallesen Organization: AVIC X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: da, en MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Irda support References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Henry F. Marquardt" wrote: > > I agree, this is a 'lost' technology, a solution in search of a problem. > Even the palm crowd doesn't use it much that I've seen - I remember some of > the early marketing hype there with people swapping IR business cards - I > don't think I've ever seen anyone do that and I don't think I could figure > out how in any reasonable amount of time with mine - it'd be quicker to > scribble on a napkin. > > Same with my laptop, it was configured as com2 and as far as I was concerned > just taking up IRQ space - I turned it off when I put FBSD on there. > Doesn't mean you should play with it, but what are you going to *use* it > for? > > Hank > > > -----Original Message----- "Henry F. Marquardt" wrote: > I agree, this is a 'lost' technology, a solution in search of a problem. I certainly do not agree with you on that. > Doesn't mean you should play with it, but what are you going to *use* it > for? It is quite popular in great parts of Europe for linking up mobile phones for making data calls and other features. The fact that IrCOMM was taken out of Windows 2000 has upset quite a few people here. -- Jens Fallesen O- Hedegaardsvej 41 st th, 2300 Copenhagen S, Denmark Phone: (+45) 32 86 18 99 * Fax: (+45) 32 86 17 99 CCIE #5470 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 3 10:28:55 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from alpha.root-servers.ch (alpha.root-servers.ch [195.49.62.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 35D3F37B517 for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2000 10:28:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gabriel_ambuehl@buz.ch) Received: (qmail 24184 invoked from network); 3 Aug 2000 17:28:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO 10.2.2.100) (62.2.98.229) by ns1.root-servers.ch with SMTP; 3 Aug 2000 17:28:50 -0000 Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2000 19:30:15 +0200 From: Gabriel Ambuehl X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.45 Beta/6) Personal Organization: BUZ Internet Services X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <119204174126.20000803193015@buz.ch> To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re[2]: Upgrading from 4.1-R to 4.1-S In-reply-To: <20000803130304.M58109@jade.chc-chimes.com> References: <52199984923.20000803182025@buz.ch> <20000803130304.M58109@jade.chc-chimes.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello Bill, Thursday, August 03, 2000, 7:03:04 PM, you wrote: > On Thu, Aug 03, 2000 at 06:20:25PM +0200, Gabriel Ambuehl wrote: >> One problem persists: How should I drop to singleuser mode on >> colocated servers? Pretty hard to do without driving to them. > Serial consoles and OOB access make the world go 'round. Sorry, but what's OOB? I think it should be possible to cross connect each two boxes with null modem cables (dunno if there's another word for them in English) in order to get serial access, am I right? (will try it as soon as I can get hands on cables -> tomorrow ;-) If they weren't for Intel CPUs (we're an AMD shop since ever ;-), I'd get some of those new Intel mainboards which even feed the BIOS output to you... But OTOH, at the moment, it'd take approx. 45 min to get to the servers using public transport system, some minutes less but with the risk of traffic jams if by car or, perhaps the best solution if weather allows it, motorbike: Switzerland's small. Best regards, Gabriel To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 3 10:41:38 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from jade.chc-chimes.com (jade.chc-chimes.com [216.28.46.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D792037B566 for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2000 10:41:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from billf@jade.chc-chimes.com) Received: by jade.chc-chimes.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 0E7611C70; Thu, 3 Aug 2000 13:41:33 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2000 13:41:33 -0400 From: Bill Fumerola To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Upgrading from 4.1-R to 4.1-S Message-ID: <20000803134132.S58109@jade.chc-chimes.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.3-STABLE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Aug 03, 2000 at 07:29:35PM +0200, Gabriel Ambuehl wrote: > >> One problem persists: How should I drop to singleuser mode on > >> colocated servers? Pretty hard to do without driving to them. > > Serial consoles and OOB access make the world go 'round. > > Sorry, but what's OOB? I think it should be possible to cross connect > each two boxes with null modem cables (dunno if there's another word > for them in English) in order to get serial access, am I right? > (will try it as soon as I can get hands on cables -> tomorrow ;-) Out of band. Serial cables cross connects, modems, a NOC monkey at the terminal, remote consoles, etc. > But OTOH, at the moment, it'd take approx. 45 min to get to the servers > using public transport system, some minutes less but with the risk of > traffic jams if by car or, perhaps the best solution if weather allows > it, motorbike: Switzerland's small. Yep. In rush hour it takes me 45min of crappy traffic, no traffic I can make it in 15min. We use a cisco 2511 with lots of serial cables, but we have more then 2 machines. -- Bill Fumerola - Network Architect, BOFH / Chimes, Inc. billf@chimesnet.com / billf@FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 3 10:48: 1 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from alpha.root-servers.ch (alpha.root-servers.ch [195.49.62.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1EE5837B549 for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2000 10:47:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gabriel_ambuehl@buz.ch) Received: (qmail 24590 invoked from network); 3 Aug 2000 17:47:54 -0000 Received: from client98-229.hispeed.ch (HELO 10.2.2.100) (62.2.98.229) by ns1.root-servers.ch with SMTP; 3 Aug 2000 17:47:54 -0000 Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2000 19:49:18 +0200 From: Gabriel Ambuehl X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.45 Beta/6) Personal Organization: BUZ Internet Services X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <20205317490.20000803194918@buz.ch> To: Bill Fumerola Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re[2]: Upgrading from 4.1-R to 4.1-S In-reply-To: <20000803134046.R58109@jade.chc-chimes.com> References: <52199984923.20000803182025@buz.ch> <20000803130304.M58109@jade.chc-chimes.com> <104204134149.20000803192935@buz.ch> <20000803134046.R58109@jade.chc-chimes.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello Bill, > Out of band. Serial cables cross connects, modems, a NOC monkey at > the terminal, remote consoles, etc. Duuh. Better don't allow the NOC monkeys to even touch your racks... > Yep. In rush hour it takes me 45min of crappy traffic, no traffic I can > make it in 15min. We use a cisco 2511 with lots of serial cables, but > we have more then 2 machines. We've got several more. I meant that you could build pairs of two machines which are cross connected. It's more likely that the Cisco stuff fails than two FreeBSD servers in our experience... Best regards, Gabriel To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 3 10:57:31 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from moek.pir.net (moek.pir.net [209.192.237.190]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 373D537B549 for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2000 10:57:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pir@pir.net) Received: from pir by moek.pir.net with local (Exim) id 13KPFF-00000q-00 for stable@freebsd.org; Thu, 03 Aug 2000 13:57:25 -0400 Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2000 13:57:25 -0400 From: Peter Radcliffe To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Re[2]: Upgrading from 4.1-R to 4.1-S Message-ID: <20000803135725.H25776@pir.net> Reply-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Mail-Followup-To: stable@freebsd.org References: <52199984923.20000803182025@buz.ch> <20000803130304.M58109@jade.chc-chimes.com> <104204134149.20000803192935@buz.ch> <20000803134046.R58109@jade.chc-chimes.com> <20205317490.20000803194918@buz.ch> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <20205317490.20000803194918@buz.ch>; from gabriel_ambuehl@buz.ch on Thu, Aug 03, 2000 at 07:49:18PM +0200 X-fish: < X-Copy-On-Listmail: Please do NOT Cc: me on list mail. Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Gabriel Ambuehl probably said: > We've got several more. I meant that you could build pairs of two > machines which are cross connected. It's more likely that the Cisco > stuff fails than two FreeBSD servers in our experience... That isn't my experience. I've been using lots of 2511s for consoles, at various work places and at home, for about 5 years. Never had one fail. The only moving part in a 2511 is a fan. Lots and lots of moving parts in a PC. I know which one I trust more. P. -- pir pir@pir.net pir@net.tufts.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 3 11:17:48 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from alpha.root-servers.ch (alpha.root-servers.ch [195.49.62.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 57DDE37B549 for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2000 11:17:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gabriel_ambuehl@buz.ch) Received: (qmail 24980 invoked from network); 3 Aug 2000 18:17:39 -0000 Received: from client98-229.hispeed.ch (HELO 10.2.2.100) (62.2.98.229) by ns1.root-servers.ch with SMTP; 3 Aug 2000 18:17:39 -0000 Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2000 20:19:04 +0200 From: Gabriel Ambuehl X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.45 Beta/6) Personal Organization: BUZ Internet Services X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <63207103729.20000803201904@buz.ch> To: Peter Radcliffe Subject: Re[4]: Upgrading from 4.1-R to 4.1-S In-reply-To: <20000803135725.H25776@pir.net> References: <52199984923.20000803182025@buz.ch> <20000803130304.M58109@jade.chc-chimes.com> <104204134149.20000803192935@buz.ch> <20000803134046.R58109@jade.chc-chimes.com> <20205317490.20000803194918@buz.ch> <20000803135725.H25776@pir.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello Peter, Thursday, August 03, 2000, 7:57:25 PM, you wrote: > That isn't my experience. I've been using lots of 2511s for consoles, > at various work places and at home, for about 5 years. Never had one > fail. > The only moving part in a 2511 is a fan. Lots and lots of moving parts > in a PC. I know which one I trust more. I'm not speaking about crashes here but merely software bugs. One of our clients had massive problems because Cisco was too slow with their bugfixes (can't comment much more on that issue, wasn't my case). Since then, our routing whiz is avoiding Cisco. Best regards, Gabriel To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 3 11:21:29 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from alpha.root-servers.ch (alpha.root-servers.ch [195.49.62.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8126B37B69D for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2000 11:21:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gabriel_ambuehl@buz.ch) Received: (qmail 25026 invoked from network); 3 Aug 2000 18:21:19 -0000 Received: from client98-229.hispeed.ch (HELO 10.2.2.100) (62.2.98.229) by ns1.root-servers.ch with SMTP; 3 Aug 2000 18:21:19 -0000 Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2000 20:22:44 +0200 From: Gabriel Ambuehl X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.45 Beta/6) Personal Organization: BUZ Internet Services X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <147207323245.20000803202244@buz.ch> To: Willem Brown Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re[2]: Network load balancing hardware ... In-reply-To: <20000803201554.J55450@snoopy.brwn.org> References: <20000803201554.J55450@snoopy.brwn.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Have a look at Eddie, www.eddieware.org. OpenSource sponsored by Ericsson. > An Intelligent HTTP Gateway which provides site based > Load Balancing, > Reliability, > Scalability, and > Quality of Service. Eddie's feature list looks pretty impressive but what happens if the load balancing box itself crashes? Best regards, Gabriel To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 3 11:25:27 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from plamen.bgstore.com (bgstore.digsys.bg [193.68.22.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 143FB37B60A for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2000 11:25:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from plamendp@bgstore.com) Received: from bgstore.com (varna64.pip.digsys.bg [193.68.1.64]) by plamen.bgstore.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA03853; Thu, 3 Aug 2000 21:22:59 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from plamendp@bgstore.com) Message-ID: <3989BA1D.59ED6D80@bgstore.com> Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2000 21:29:49 +0300 From: Plamen Petkov X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 4.1-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gabriel Ambuehl , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: making a RELEASE References: <41194685122.20000803165206@buz.ch> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=x-user-defined Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Gabriel Ambuehl wrote: > > Unless the server is under high load, cvsupping and make world while > "at work" did never cause any problems here. You just have to make > sure that you cvsup to a level that you know of that it's working. > Bingo! That's the point: I have to know "that it's workin". And that's not enough; I NEED to know it's working fine, stable, etc... I.e., it mUST be tested! I can not afford to test on a machine working in the real world. Too risky for me, and frankly speaking, I am not such an expert as I wish to be :-)) Anyway, 10x for the advise, besides, it was the first option I thought of. 10x again :-) Regards, -- Plamen D. Petkov ICQ#2214327 plamendp@bgstore.com http://www.bgstore.com http://auction.bgstore.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 3 11:29:22 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from alpha.root-servers.ch (alpha.root-servers.ch [195.49.62.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id EF61437B674 for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2000 11:29:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gabriel_ambuehl@buz.ch) Received: (qmail 25101 invoked from network); 3 Aug 2000 18:29:12 -0000 Received: from client98-229.hispeed.ch (HELO 10.2.2.100) (62.2.98.229) by ns1.root-servers.ch with SMTP; 3 Aug 2000 18:29:12 -0000 Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2000 20:30:38 +0200 From: Gabriel Ambuehl X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.45 Beta/6) Personal Organization: BUZ Internet Services X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <158207797206.20000803203038@buz.ch> To: Plamen Petkov Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re[2]: making a RELEASE In-reply-To: <3989BA1D.59ED6D80@bgstore.com> References: <41194685122.20000803165206@buz.ch> <3989BA1D.59ED6D80@bgstore.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello Plamen, Thursday, August 03, 2000, 8:29:49 PM, you wrote: > Bingo! That's the point: I have to know "that it's workin". And that's > not enough; I NEED to know it's working fine, stable, etc... I.e., it > mUST be tested! Hmm I don't think there's much difference between a build of the same source done on different machines. > Anyway, 10x for the advise, besides, it was the first option I thought > of. 10x again :-) We do it all the time and never had problems. But we've got some 'safety belts' for ermegency cases. Best regards, Gabriel To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 3 11:53:12 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8225137B55A for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2000 11:53:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA70766; Thu, 3 Aug 2000 12:53:05 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id MAA04532; Thu, 3 Aug 2000 12:53:02 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <200008031853.MAA04532@harmony.village.org> To: Chris BeHanna Subject: Re: Re[2]: Upgrading from 4.1-R to 4.1-S Cc: Gabriel Ambuehl , Nader Turki , jim@jmock.com, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 03 Aug 2000 12:03:54 EDT." References: Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2000 12:53:01 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message Chris BeHanna writes: : If you want to minimize the downtime, do "make buildworld" in : multi-user mode instead, then drop to single-user mode and do "make : installworld" and reboot. This is the "safe" way of doing things. One can often get away with the make installworld in multiuser mode (In fact, I just did it last night). However, it is wisest to reboot after that so that things like sendmail isn't "cross threaded" with one version running for the daemons and another running for outgoing mail. One can often get away with it, but it isn't supported. Basically there are lots of potential problems that are eliminated by doing the installworld in single-user mode. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 3 11:59:52 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from web1304.mail.yahoo.com (web1304.mail.yahoo.com [128.11.23.154]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 612DD37B528 for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2000 11:59:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from barak_enat@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 19055 invoked by uid 60001); 3 Aug 2000 18:59:46 -0000 Message-ID: <20000803185946.19054.qmail@web1304.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [209.88.175.222] by web1304.mail.yahoo.com; Thu, 03 Aug 2000 11:59:46 PDT Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2000 11:59:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Barak Enat Subject: sysinstall and compaq smart raid disks (idad) To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG hi, don't know if this is helpfull, but i had to add the following two lines to /usr/src/release/sysinstall/devices.c and recompile sysinstall, so it will recognize the idad disks for fdisk/disklabel operations. { DEVICE_TYPE_DISK, "idad%d", "Compaq SMART RAID adapter", 29, 65538, 8, 16, 'b' }, { DEVICE_TYPE_DISK, "ridad%d", "Compaq SMART RAID adapter", 109, 65538, 8, 16, 'c' }, seems odd, as at some point i think i read that 4.1 installation supports the smart raid devices out of the box (i.e. both in kernel and sysinstall)... barak __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Kick off your party with Yahoo! Invites. http://invites.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 3 12:45:21 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.dcnv.com (mail.dcnv.com [216.33.117.136]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24EDD37B6AE for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2000 12:45:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from aedmonds@digitalconvergence.com) Received: from digitalconvergence.com (sledge [207.158.100.67]) by mail.dcnv.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA58148; Thu, 3 Aug 2000 14:43:09 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from aedmonds@digitalconvergence.com) Message-ID: <3989CBC4.2792D8A2@digitalconvergence.com> Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2000 14:45:08 -0500 From: Alan Edmonds X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Barak Enat Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: sysinstall and compaq smart raid disks (idad) References: <20000803185946.19054.qmail@web1304.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I've got Compaq DL360s with the Integrated Smart RAID adapters and support was added to 4.0-STABLE on June 2nd. I was able to use the June 2nd snapshot of 4.0-STABLE and it installed fine. Have you run the configuration utility and created the RAID volume? Barak Enat wrote: > > hi, > > don't know if this is helpfull, but i had to add the > following two lines to > /usr/src/release/sysinstall/devices.c and recompile > sysinstall, so it will recognize the idad disks for > fdisk/disklabel operations. > > { DEVICE_TYPE_DISK, "idad%d", > "Compaq SMART RAID adapter", 29, 65538, 8, 16, 'b' > }, > { DEVICE_TYPE_DISK, "ridad%d", > "Compaq SMART RAID adapter", 109, 65538, 8, 16, 'c' > }, > > seems odd, as at some point i think i read that 4.1 > installation supports the smart raid devices out of > the box (i.e. both in kernel and sysinstall)... > > barak > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Kick off your party with Yahoo! Invites. > http://invites.yahoo.com/ > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- Alan Edmonds Director of International Technology DigitalConvergence.:Com aedmonds@digitalconvergence.com Phone: +1-214-292-6040 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 3 12:59:49 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from snoopy.brwn.org (intgw1.brwn.org [196.28.127.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C697837B663 for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2000 12:59:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from willem@snoopy.brwn.org) Received: by snoopy.brwn.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id A146B1D9B; Thu, 3 Aug 2000 21:59:25 +0200 (SAST) Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2000 21:59:25 +0200 From: Willem Brown To: Gabriel Ambuehl Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Network load balancing hardware ... Message-ID: <20000803215925.L55450@snoopy.brwn.org> References: <20000803201554.J55450@snoopy.brwn.org> <147207323245.20000803202244@buz.ch> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <147207323245.20000803202244@buz.ch>; from gabriel_ambuehl@buz.ch on Thu, Aug 03, 2000 at 08:22:44PM +0200 X-Public-Key: http://willem.brwn.org/pubkey.txt X-Chat-Server: http://chat.brwn.org/ Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, On Thu, Aug 03, 2000 at 08:22:44PM +0200, Gabriel Ambuehl wrote: > > Have a look at Eddie, www.eddieware.org. OpenSource sponsored by Ericsson. > > An Intelligent HTTP Gateway which provides site based > > Load Balancing, > > Reliability, > > Scalability, and > > Quality of Service. > > > Eddie's feature list looks pretty impressive but what happens if the > load balancing box itself crashes? Good point. I've never used it myself so I don't know how you would set it up so you don't have a single point of failure for the whole site. Making an uneducated guess I recon you would still need some sort of backup for it in case it goes down. > > > Best regards, > Gabriel > > Best Regards Willem Brown -- /* =============================================================== */ /* Linux, FreeBSD, NetBSD, OpenBSD. The choice is yours. */ /* =============================================================== */ "We have the right to survive!" "Not be killing others." -- Deela and Kirk, "Wink of An Eye", stardate 5710.5 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 3 13: 4:39 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from alpha.root-servers.ch (alpha.root-servers.ch [195.49.62.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3E45337B53A for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2000 13:04:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gabriel_ambuehl@buz.ch) Received: (qmail 26907 invoked from network); 3 Aug 2000 20:04:32 -0000 Received: from client98-229.hispeed.ch (HELO ATHLON-550) (62.2.98.229) by ns1.root-servers.ch with SMTP; 3 Aug 2000 20:04:32 -0000 Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2000 22:05:53 +0200 From: Gabriel Ambuehl X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.45 Beta/6) Personal Organization: BUZ Internet Services X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <130213512514.20000803220553@buz.ch> To: Willem Brown Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re[2]: Network load balancing hardware ... In-reply-To: <20000803215925.L55450@snoopy.brwn.org> References: <20000803201554.J55450@snoopy.brwn.org> <147207323245.20000803202244@buz.ch> <20000803215925.L55450@snoopy.brwn.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello Willem, Thursday, August 03, 2000, 9:59:25 PM, you wrote: >> Eddie's feature list looks pretty impressive but what happens if the >> load balancing box itself crashes? > Good point. I've never used it myself so I don't know how you would set > it up so you don't have a single point of failure for the whole site. > Making an uneducated guess I recon you would still need some sort of backup > for it in case it goes down. I've got some ideas how one could handle it quite cheaply. If I ever get some time and four spare boxes (two for load balancing, two behind), I'll try it ;-) Best regards, Gabriel To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 3 13:16:21 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.29]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BC4C37B77A for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2000 13:16:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from robert42@swbell.net) Received: from Praetorian ([208.188.27.158]) by mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.2000.01.05.12.18.p9) with SMTP id <0FYQ00G58FQ8LH@mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net> for stable@FreeBSD.org; Thu, 3 Aug 2000 15:03:45 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2000 14:59:19 -0500 From: "Robert L. Bostic" Subject: Unable to get IP address of own host during CVSup To: stable@FreeBSD.org Reply-To: robert42@swbell.net Message-id: <00080315093501.01468@Praetorian> Organization: Praetorian MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.0.28] Content-type: text/plain Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I am attempting to cvsup over a dial-up connection. I get the following e= rror message: > Praetorian# cvsup stable-supfile=20 > Cannot get IP address of my own host -- is its hostname correct? I know I can't be the first to encounter this problem. How can I correct = this? Robert Bostic robert42@swbell.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 3 13:23: 6 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.29]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E264137B7B2 for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2000 13:23:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from robert42@swbell.net) Received: from Praetorian ([208.188.27.158]) by mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.2000.01.05.12.18.p9) with SMTP id <0FYQ00JDVG995P@mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net> for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Thu, 3 Aug 2000 15:15:10 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2000 15:19:38 -0500 From: "Robert L. Bostic" Subject: Unable to get IP address of own host during CVSup To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Reply-To: robert42@swbell.net Message-id: <00080315210102.01468@Praetorian> Organization: Praetorian MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.0.28] Content-type: text/plain Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I am attempting to cvsup over a dial-up connection. I get the following e= rror message: > Praetorian# cvsup stable-supfile=20 > Cannot get IP address of my own host -- is its hostname correct? I know I can't be the first to encounter this problem. How can I correct = this? Robert Bostic robert42@swbell.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 3 13:36:59 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from turtle.looksharp.net (cc360882-a.strhg1.mi.home.com [24.2.221.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38FA537B7D3 for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2000 13:36:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bandix@looksharp.net) Received: from localhost (bandix@localhost) by turtle.looksharp.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA33918; Thu, 3 Aug 2000 16:37:45 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bandix@looksharp.net) Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2000 16:37:45 -0400 (EDT) From: "Brandon D. Valentine" To: "Henry F. Marquardt" Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, Jason Kasper Subject: RE: Irda support In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 2 Aug 2000, Henry F. Marquardt wrote: >I agree, this is a 'lost' technology, a solution in search of a problem. >Even the palm crowd doesn't use it much that I've seen - I remember some of >the early marketing hype there with people swapping IR business cards - I >don't think I've ever seen anyone do that and I don't think I could figure >out how in any reasonable amount of time with mine - it'd be quicker to >scribble on a napkin. The only cool use I've seen for it yet is the ability to control a furby with your palmtop. It's really quite amusing to send someone into a room with a furby they don't know you're controlling. I wouldn't mind the ability to do this from my FreeBSD laptop. I can't find any serious use for IrDA though. Brandon D. Valentine -- bandix at looksharp.net | bandix at structbio.vanderbilt.edu "Truth suffers from too much analysis." -- Ancient Fremen Saying To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 3 14: 5:35 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from web4502.mail.yahoo.com (web4502.mail.yahoo.com [216.115.105.63]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 35B1D37B7CC for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2000 14:05:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from strbenjr@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20000803210513.11627.qmail@web4502.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [192.251.173.33] by web4502.mail.yahoo.com; Thu, 03 Aug 2000 14:05:13 PDT Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2000 14:05:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Ben Hacker Jr Subject: Router "ep2" issue To: list DC-FBSD , questions FBSD , Stable FBSD Cc: Ben Hacker Jr MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello all... I built a router about six months back and it has been working pretty good except that sometimes I will lose connectivity to the subnet on one of the ports (ep2). I lost connectivity again today and tried to figure out what was going wrong. I don't know how to tell if it is caused by hardware or my configuration. 10Mb 100Mb +---------------+ 10.44.17.062/27=|ep0 FreeBSD | 10.44.17.126/27=|ep1 Router xl0|=10.44.25.250/30 10.44.17.222/27=|ep2 | +---------------+ me@FBSD_Router1$ uname -a FreeBSD FBSD_Router1 3.4-STABLE FreeBSD 3.4-STABLE #2: Fri Mar 17 11 :42:33 EST 2000 me@FBSD_Router1:/usr/src/sys/compile/Router1-4 i386 me@FBSD_Router1$ network_interfaces="xl0 ep2 ep1 ep0 lo0" ifconfig_xl0="inet 10.44.25.250 netmask 255.255.255.252" ifconfig_ep2="inet 10.44.17.222 netmask 255.255.255.224" ifconfig_ep1="inet 10.44.17.126 netmask 255.255.255.224" ifconfig_ep0="inet 10.44.17.62 netmask 255.255.255.224" defaultrouter="10.44.25.249" After logging into the router from the ep1 subnet I tried to ping out to all the subnets. The results are listed below: me@FBSD_Router1$ ping 10.44.17.38 PING 10.44.17.38 (10.44.17.38): 56 data bytes VIA ep0 64 bytes from 10.44.17.38: icmp_seq=0 ttl=128 time=1.114 ms 64 bytes from 10.44.17.38: icmp_seq=1 ttl=128 time=0.645 ms 64 bytes from 10.44.17.38: icmp_seq=2 ttl=128 time=0.594 ms 64 bytes from 10.44.17.38: icmp_seq=3 ttl=128 time=0.596 ms 64 bytes from 10.44.17.38: icmp_seq=4 ttl=128 time=0.617 ms 64 bytes from 10.44.17.38: icmp_seq=5 ttl=128 time=0.611 ms 64 bytes from 10.44.17.38: icmp_seq=6 ttl=128 time=0.613 ms 64 bytes from 10.44.17.38: icmp_seq=7 ttl=128 time=0.608 ms me@FBSD_Router1$ ping 10.44.17.105 PING 10.44.17.105 (10.44.17.105): 56 data bytes VIA ep1 64 bytes from 10.44.17.105: icmp_seq=0 ttl=128 time=0.722 ms 64 bytes from 10.44.17.105: icmp_seq=1 ttl=128 time=0.600 ms 64 bytes from 10.44.17.105: icmp_seq=2 ttl=128 time=0.587 ms 64 bytes from 10.44.17.105: icmp_seq=3 ttl=128 time=0.610 ms 64 bytes from 10.44.17.105: icmp_seq=4 ttl=128 time=0.578 ms me@FBSD_Router1$ ping 10.44.17.200 VIA ep2 ping: sendto: No buffer space available ping: sendto: No buffer space available ping: sendto: No buffer space available ping: sendto: No buffer space available (Apparently this is the problem.) ping: sendto: No buffer space available ping: sendto: No buffer space available ping: sendto: No buffer space available me@FBSD_Router1$ ping 10.44.12.150 PING 10.44.12.150 (10.44.12.150): 56 data bytes VIA xl0 64 bytes from 10.44.12.150: icmp_seq=0 ttl=254 time=1.629 ms 64 bytes from 10.44.12.150: icmp_seq=1 ttl=254 time=1.754 ms 64 bytes from 10.44.12.150: icmp_seq=2 ttl=254 time=1.665 ms I had found in the past that if I down the adapter ep2 and brought it back up again the communications would resume so that is what the shellscript "updown2" does. me@FBSD_Router1$ su root -c updown2 Password: ep2: flags=8c02 mtu 1500 inet 10.44.17.222 netmask 0xffffffe0 broadcast 10.44.17.223 inet 10.54.17.222 netmask 0xffffffe0 broadcast 10.54.17.223 ether 00:a0:24:23:70:cc ep2: flags=8843 mtu 1500 inet 10.44.17.222 netmask 0xffffffe0 broadcast 10.44.17.223 inet 10.54.17.222 netmask 0xffffffe0 broadcast 10.54.17.223 ether 00:a0:24:23:70:cc Once I bring the adapter down and back up again it apparently functions fine (for a while at least. See below.) What should I do now?? Replace the adapter? Make some configuration change for that adapter in my Kernel? Update to v3.5? (The last time I cvsup'ed was prior to the router going online for real work.) Or... What other config file do you want to see? me@FBSD_Router1$ ping 10.44.17.200 PING 10.44.17.200 (10.44.17.200): 56 data bytes VIA ep2 64 bytes from 10.44.17.200: icmp_seq=0 ttl=128 time=0.641 ms 64 bytes from 10.44.17.200: icmp_seq=1 ttl=128 time=0.588 ms 64 bytes from 10.44.17.200: icmp_seq=2 ttl=128 time=0.568 ms 64 bytes from 10.44.17.200: icmp_seq=3 ttl=128 time=0.591 ms 64 bytes from 10.44.17.200: icmp_seq=4 ttl=128 time=0.575 ms 64 bytes from 10.44.17.200: icmp_seq=5 ttl=128 time=0.566 ms ^C --- 10.44.17.200 ping statistics --- 6 packets transmitted, 6 packets received, 0% packet loss round-trip min/avg/max/stddev = 0.566/0.588/0.641/0.025 ms me@FBSD_Router1$ ===== -=*=- -=*=- -=*=- -=*=- -=*=- -=*=- -=*=- -=*=- -=*=- Ben Hacker Jr Technical Specialist Computer Sciences Corporation (703) 289-3477 MC 291 bhacker1@csc.com 3170 Fairview Park Drive strben@altavista.com Falls Church, VA 22304 -=*=- -=*=- -=*=- -=*=- -=*=- -=*=- -=*=- -=*=- -=*=- __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Kick off your party with Yahoo! Invites. http://invites.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 3 14:14:20 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freebie.ilsmart.com (freebie.ilsmart.com [206.175.69.253]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABA7937B588 for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2000 14:14:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bgoering@ilsmart.com) Received: from svr03.ilsmart.com (ilsinet.go-ils.com [206.175.69.228]) by freebie.ilsmart.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id e73LCt740988; Thu, 3 Aug 2000 16:12:55 -0500 (CDT) Received: from NT2NOTES.ilsmart.com ([209.154.176.3]) by svr03.ilsmart.com (Lotus Domino Release 5.0.2c (Intl)) with ESMTP id 2000080316132096:48620 ; Thu, 3 Aug 2000 16:13:20 -0500 To: Barak Enat , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: sysinstall and compaq smart raid disks (idad) X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.4 June 8, 2000 Message-ID: From: bgoering@ilsmart.com Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2000 16:14:19 -0500 X-MIMETrack: S/MIME Sign by Notes Client on Bill Goering/ILS(Release 5.0.4 |June 8, 2000) at 08/03/2000 04:12:08 PM, Serialize by Notes Client on Bill Goering/ILS(Release 5.0.4 |June 8, 2000) at 08/03/2000 04:12:08 PM, Serialize complete at 08/03/2000 04:12:08 PM, S/MIME Sign failed at 08/03/2000 04:12:08 PM: The cryptographic key was not found, Serialize by Router on NT2NOTES/ILS(Release 5.0.2c (Intl)|2 February 2000) at 08/03/2000 04:14:22 PM, Serialize complete at 08/03/2000 04:14:22 PM, Itemize by SMTP Server on ILSINET/ILS(Release 5.0.2c (Intl)|2 February 2000) at 08/03/2000 04:13:21 PM, Serialize by Router on ILSINET/ILS(Release 5.0.2c (Intl)|2 February 2000) at 08/03/2000 04:13:21 PM, Serialize complete at 08/03/2000 04:13:21 PM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, I ran into a similar problem with install of 4.1 Release on a Compaq Smart Array 431. It seems there where patches to the ida driver to recognize controllers that probe as DEC/Compaq .... There was a fix for it sometime AFTER 4.1 release. I didn't try your method, but instead built floppies and did an ftp install from the 7/31/2000 stable snapshot. That worked just fine. Btw -- thanks to all the folks that responded to my query on this problem last week :) Bill Barak Enat Sent by: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG 08/03/2000 01:59 PM To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG cc: Subject: sysinstall and compaq smart raid disks (idad) hi, don't know if this is helpfull, but i had to add the following two lines to /usr/src/release/sysinstall/devices.c and recompile sysinstall, so it will recognize the idad disks for fdisk/disklabel operations. { DEVICE_TYPE_DISK, "idad%d", "Compaq SMART RAID adapter", 29, 65538, 8, 16, 'b' }, { DEVICE_TYPE_DISK, "ridad%d", "Compaq SMART RAID adapter", 109, 65538, 8, 16, 'c' }, seems odd, as at some point i think i read that 4.1 installation supports the smart raid devices out of the box (i.e. both in kernel and sysinstall)... barak __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Kick off your party with Yahoo! Invites. http://invites.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 3 14:26:35 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from alcanet.com.au (mail.alcanet.com.au [203.62.196.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0AA0D37B820 for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2000 14:26:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jeremyp@pc0640.alcatel.com.au) Received: by border.alcanet.com.au id <115835>; Fri, 4 Aug 2000 07:25:49 +1000 Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2000 05:41:04 +1000 From: Peter Jeremy Subject: Re: Cached versus non cached disk I/O In-reply-to: <396B8DC4.28CD9727@geodesic.com>; from pac@geodesic.com on Tue, Jul 11, 2000 at 04:12:36PM -0500 In-reply-to: ; from tom@uniserve.com on Tue, Jul 11, 2000 at 09:06:31PM -0700 To: Paul Coyne , Tom Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Message-Id: <00Aug4.072549est.115835@border.alcanet.com.au> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii References: <396B8DC4.28CD9727@geodesic.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG [catching up on some old mail] On Tue, Jul 11, 2000 at 04:12:36PM -0500, Paul Coyne wrote: >Is a mkdir cached? It depends... The following table lists the possible UFS mount modes, together with their caching behaviour, in descending order of FS integrity: mode data metadata softupdates async* async* sync sync sync `normal' async sync async async async Where sync means write-though caching and async means write-back caching. async* means that write-back caching is used, but the write ordering is controlled to ensure FS consistency on disk. mkdir(2) and symlink(2) entail metadata updates, so they are cached for both softupdates and async mounts. >Does a mkdir call from an NFS client wait for a positive response from >an NFS server prior to handling the next request? Again, this depends... By default, NFSv2 is fully synchronous - the client will wait until the server has committed the change to disk. NFSv3 allows some asynchronous operations, though I'm uncertain of the details. The defaults can be over-ridden by a sysctl. On Tue, Jul 11, 2000 at 09:06:31PM -0700, Tom wrote: > It >should be obvious that write-buffering metadata can cause problems, even >with softupdates, though softupdates is clearly better than async. Not quite. softupdates is actually more robust than a normal FS mount (and far more robust than async). The softupdates code controls the ordering of both data and metadata writes to ensure that the FS on disk is always internally consistent. With a normal mount, the metadata is mostly internally consistent, but is not necessarily consistent with the data. Peter To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 3 15:20:21 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail2.uniserve.com (mail2.uniserve.com [204.244.156.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8617D37B88B for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2000 15:20:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tom@uniserve.com) Received: from shell.uniserve.ca ([204.244.186.218]) by mail2.uniserve.com with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 13KTLS-00046k-00; Thu, 03 Aug 2000 15:20:06 -0700 Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2000 15:20:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom X-Sender: tom@shell.uniserve.ca To: Peter Jeremy Cc: Paul Coyne , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Cached versus non cached disk I/O In-Reply-To: <00Aug4.072549est.115835@border.alcanet.com.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 4 Aug 2000, Peter Jeremy wrote: > On Tue, Jul 11, 2000 at 09:06:31PM -0700, Tom wrote: > > It > >should be obvious that write-buffering metadata can cause problems, even > >with softupdates, though softupdates is clearly better than async. > > Not quite. softupdates is actually more robust than a normal FS > mount (and far more robust than async). The softupdates code > controls the ordering of both data and metadata writes to ensure > that the FS on disk is always internally consistent. With a > normal mount, the metadata is mostly internally consistent, but > is not necessarily consistent with the data. Not likely. I personally pushed softupdates over the edge before (see archives). In my case, the amount of unwritten metadata filled up all kernel space. The filesystem was recoverable, but fsck filled up lost+found several times (that should be considered a fsck bug that wasn't possible to expose without softupdates). It was rather messy. > Peter Tom Uniserve To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 3 15:40:22 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from Samizdat.uucom.com (samizdat.uucom.com [198.202.217.54]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FDE837B89A for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2000 15:40:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cshenton@uucom.com) Received: (from cshenton@localhost) by Samizdat.uucom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA22968; Thu, 3 Aug 2000 18:40:06 -0400 (EDT) To: Gabriel Ambuehl Cc: Willem Brown , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Re[2]: Network load balancing hardware ... References: <20000803201554.J55450@snoopy.brwn.org> <147207323245.20000803202244@buz.ch> From: Chris Shenton Date: 03 Aug 2000 18:40:06 -0400 In-Reply-To: Gabriel Ambuehl's message of "Thu, 3 Aug 2000 20:22:44 +0200" Message-ID: Lines: 9 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0807 (Gnus v5.8.7) Emacs/20.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 3 Aug 2000 20:22:44 +0200, Gabriel Ambuehl said: Gabriel> Eddie's feature list looks pretty impressive but what happens Gabriel> if the load balancing box itself crashes? Is anyone aware of a freely available VRRP implementation? I looked about 6 months ago and didn't see anything. Seems like it would be handy for balancers as well as firewalls. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 3 16:17:42 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from scientia.demon.co.uk (scientia.demon.co.uk [212.228.14.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAA7537B8BD for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2000 16:17:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ben@scientia.demon.co.uk) Received: from strontium.scientia.demon.co.uk ([192.168.91.36] ident=exim) by scientia.demon.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.15 #1) id 13KUEW-0000Gw-00; Fri, 04 Aug 2000 00:17:00 +0100 Received: (from ben) by strontium.scientia.demon.co.uk (Exim 3.15 #1) id 13KUET-0005br-00; Fri, 04 Aug 2000 00:16:57 +0100 Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2000 00:16:56 +0100 From: Ben Smithurst To: "Robert L. Bostic" Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Unable to get IP address of own host during CVSup Message-ID: <20000804001656.C3360@strontium.scientia.demon.co.uk> References: <00080315210102.01468@Praetorian> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <00080315210102.01468@Praetorian> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Robert L. Bostic wrote: > I am attempting to cvsup over a dial-up connection. I get the following error > message: >> Praetorian# cvsup stable-supfile >> Cannot get IP address of my own host -- is its hostname correct? > I know I can't be the first to encounter this problem. How can I correct this? Well, I don't know how the message could be made any clearer... You need an entry for your hostname (as reported by `hostname`) in /etc/hosts or in DNS, e.g. 127.0.0.1 my.hostname.example.com localhost or something. -- Ben Smithurst / ben@FreeBSD.org / PGP: 0x99392F7D FreeBSD Documentation Project / To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 3 16:29: 2 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from horizon.barak-online.net (horizon.barak.net.il [206.49.94.218]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C92E37B87C for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2000 16:28:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bk532@iname.com) Received: from localhost.local.net (pop09-1-ras1-p210.barak.net.il [212.150.107.210]) by horizon.barak-online.net (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id CAA19655; Fri, 4 Aug 2000 02:28:04 +0300 (IDT) Received: from iname.com (localhost.local.net [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.local.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA08327; Thu, 3 Aug 2000 22:37:13 +0300 (IDT) (envelope-from bk532@iname.com) Message-ID: <3989C9E5.1FC8210@iname.com> Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2000 22:37:09 +0300 From: Boris Karnaukh Organization: Private person X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.1-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en, ru MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Nader Turki Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: reboot References: <004601bffb2d$c853d2e0$1b9b3218@pit.adelphia.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Nader Turki wrote: > > hi guys, > i was doing upgrading a machine from 4.0-release to 4.0-stable > anyway, while i was doing make world ... the machine went offline. i'm not > sure why, it's either of the power, or maybe the owner rebooted the machine. > i just called the isp and they said on the prompt it says boot: i guess and > there's a msg that says no kernel and no nsf. can someone tell me how can i > get the machine back online? Prepare boot floppies (incl. fixit floppy), optionally take with you CD with FreeBSD and go to client... Maybe good fsck will help you, maybe you'll have to backup configuration files and reinstall OS. IMO you can face following problems on site: - damaged file system; - corrupted/absent kernel; - problem with boot loader. -- Boris Karnaukh (mailto:bk532@iname.com) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 3 16:38:13 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail12.svr.pol.co.uk (mail12.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.193.215]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B5A637B93F for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2000 16:38:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jonathan@turnip.org.uk) Received: from modem-140.erendis.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.198.140] helo=mashed.turnip.org.uk) by mail12.svr.pol.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #0) id 13KUYo-0005gh-00; Fri, 04 Aug 2000 00:37:58 +0100 Received: from jonathan by mashed.turnip.org.uk with local (Exim 3.16 #1) id 13KUYy-0000LT-00; Fri, 04 Aug 2000 00:38:08 +0100 Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2000 00:38:08 +0100 From: Jonathan Vaughan To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Unable to get IP address of own host during CVSup Message-ID: <20000804003808.A1307@mashed.turnip.org.uk> References: <00080315210102.01468@Praetorian> <20000804001656.C3360@strontium.scientia.demon.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.4i In-Reply-To: <20000804001656.C3360@strontium.scientia.demon.co.uk>; from ben@FreeBSD.org on Fri, Aug 04, 2000 at 12:16:56AM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, Aug 04, 2000 at 12:16:56AM +0100, Ben Smithurst wrote: > Robert L. Bostic wrote: > > > I am attempting to cvsup over a dial-up connection. I get the > > following error message: > >> Praetorian# cvsup stable-supfile Cannot get IP address of my own > >> host -- is its hostname correct? > > I know I can't be the first to encounter this problem. How can I > > correct this? > > Well, I don't know how the message could be made any clearer... You > need an entry for your hostname (as reported by `hostname`) in > /etc/hosts or in DNS, e.g. > > 127.0.0.1 my.hostname.example.com localhost > > or something. I thought the correct way was to have something like ifconfig_lo0_alias0="inet 10.0.0.1 netmask 0xffffffff" in /etc/rc.conf and a hosts file like 127.0.0.1 localhost.turnip.org.uk localhost 10.0.0.1 mashed.turnip.org.uk mashed -- Jonathan Vaughan jonathan@turnip.org.uk PGP Key ID: 0x0AF58107 http://home.clara.net/turnip/pgp.txt | jon@pgpkey.turnip.org.uk | keyservers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 3 16:49:24 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freeway.dcfinc.com (cx74889-a.phnx3.az.home.com [24.1.193.157]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9DBE37B58B for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2000 16:49:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chad@freeway.dcfinc.com) Received: (from chad@localhost) by freeway.dcfinc.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA22321; Thu, 3 Aug 2000 16:49:04 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from chad) From: "Chad R. Larson" Message-Id: <200008032349.QAA22321@freeway.dcfinc.com> Subject: Re: Irda support In-Reply-To: <200008031225.OAA81748@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de> from Oliver Fromme at "Aug 3, 0 02:25:46 pm" To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2000 16:49:03 -0700 (MST) Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: chad@DCFinc.com Organization: DCF, Inc. X-O/S: FreeBSD 2.2.8-STABLE X-Unexpected: The Spanish Inquisition X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL40 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG As I recall, Oliver Fromme wrote: > If I'm not mistaken, the IR feature of the Palm (at least > the Palm III) isn't even Irda, but some proprietary stuff. Later versions of PalmOS (3.3 and above, IIRC) changed to IrDA. So, you can print to those HP printers, use your Nokia cell phone as a modem, etc. -crl -- Chad R. Larson (CRL15) 602-953-1392 Brother, can you paradigm? chad@dcfinc.com chad@larsons.org larson1@home.net DCF, Inc. - 14623 North 49th Place, Scottsdale, Arizona 85254-2207 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 3 17:10: 8 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mass.osd.bsdi.com (adsl-63-202-177-42.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [63.202.177.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC45A37B632 for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2000 17:09:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msmith@mass.osd.bsdi.com) Received: from mass.osd.bsdi.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mass.osd.bsdi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA05366; Thu, 3 Aug 2000 17:20:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msmith@mass.osd.bsdi.com) Message-Id: <200008040020.RAA05366@mass.osd.bsdi.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: Masahiko Kosaka Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mlxcontrol In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 03 Aug 2000 15:41:13 +0900." <4.0.1-J.20000803153148.0243fe50@mail.fastnet.co.jp> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2000 17:20:55 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Hi all > > I'm using mylex AcceleRAID 150 and works fine. > But I don't know how I will know the status of > each HDD,such as "online","hot spare","NG" etc. > > I think `mlxcontrol status' can do this. > but only show following... > > # mlxcontrol status mlxd0 > mlxcontrol: couldn't get controller/drive for /dev/mlxd0 > mlxd0: online > # > > Any help would be appreciated. Check that you have created /dev/mlx0 as well as the nodes for /dev/mlxd0. -- ... every activity meets with opposition, everyone who acts has his rivals and unfortunately opponents also. But not because people want to be opponents, rather because the tasks and relationships force people to take different points of view. [Dr. Fritz Todt] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 3 17:46:12 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from hiro.netizen.com.au (ivanova.netizen.com.au [203.30.75.107]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F2B437B68F for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2000 17:46:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from benno@netizen.com.au) Received: by hiro.netizen.com.au (Postfix, from userid 516) id 3CB17215EC; Fri, 4 Aug 2000 10:46:08 +1000 (EST) Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2000 10:46:07 +1000 From: Benno Rice To: Warner Losh Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Irda support Message-ID: <20000804104607.A3266@netizen.com.au> References: <20000803231034.K3777@netizen.com.au> <20000803090040.A505@judea.rss.riteaid.com> <20000803231034.K3777@netizen.com.au> <200008031535.JAA02986@harmony.village.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <200008031535.JAA02986@harmony.village.org>; from imp@village.org on Thu, Aug 03, 2000 at 09:35:37AM -0600 X-Message-Flag: Outlook: More exploits than sendmail? Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Aug 03, 2000 at 09:35:37AM -0600, Warner Losh wrote: > In message <20000803231034.K3777@netizen.com.au> Benno Rice writes: > : Well it's on mine, but I'm a way off yet. I hope to make some significant > : progress this weekend, which may or may not result in a vaguely functional > : IrLAP netgraph node. Then I need to write an IrLMP node, a TinyTP node and > : an IrCOMM node. Then you'll be able to HotSync, assuming your laptop's IR > : port shows up as a serial device. =) > > Personally, I'd love to be able to use the IRda port since it is > faster than the serial port on my WinCE machines. However, I have > less than zero time for this. Buying an ethernet card fixed this > problem (which really was a problem on how to get netbsd boot images > to the wince machine, but I digress). Heh. =) > Even if we have irda support in the kernel, hotsync takes an > additional protocol layer, kinda like FTP but not really. It is the > same as having IP but no ftpd I guess is what I'm trying to say. > Microsoft doesn't document the hotsync protocol at all :-(. /usr/ports/palm has a lot of stuff that implements the HotSync protocol. My intention was for IrCOMM connections to show up as a tty-like device, which means that you just point one of those at /dev/ttyi0 or somesuch. =) -- Benno Rice "No, no. We're *sweet* and XNFP Aries Dark Subculture- *innocent* evil bastards." friendly Internet Geek benno@netizen.com.au "Defend your joy" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 3 18: 7:25 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp.mail.yahoo.com (smtp.mail.yahoo.com [128.11.68.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 90DA237B958 for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2000 18:07:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from barak_enat@yahoo.com) Received: from unknown (HELO barak) (209.88.175.222) by smtp.mail.yahoo.com with SMTP; 3 Aug 2000 21:03:14 -0000 X-Apparently-From: Message-ID: <0e3701bffd8e$7f8e5180$0600a8c0@barak> From: "Barak Enat" To: "Alan Edmonds" Cc: References: <20000803185946.19054.qmail@web1304.mail.yahoo.com> <3989CBC4.2792D8A2@digitalconvergence.com> Subject: Re: sysinstall and compaq smart raid disks (idad) Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2000 00:05:03 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG well, the complete story is: 1. i had 3.4 on the compaq which had the old ida driver (stealing the wd name). 2. i followed the UPDATING procedure to move to 4.1 - with no problem (just had to change the fstab to use the new idad device name). 3. later on i added couple of disks and used the ACU to create another logical drive (idad1) 4. i tried to use /stand/sysinstall to fdisk/disklabel it, but it did not recognize any of the idad devices, so i went ahead and fixed sysinstall. maybe the sysinstall under /stand is different from the one on the installation media??! have you used sysinstall on your system? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan Edmonds" To: "Barak Enat" Cc: Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2000 10:45 PM Subject: Re: sysinstall and compaq smart raid disks (idad) > I've got Compaq DL360s with the Integrated Smart > RAID adapters and support was added to 4.0-STABLE > on June 2nd. I was able to use the June 2nd > snapshot of 4.0-STABLE and it installed fine. > > Have you run the configuration utility and created > the RAID volume? > > > Barak Enat wrote: > > > > hi, > > > > don't know if this is helpfull, but i had to add the > > following two lines to > > /usr/src/release/sysinstall/devices.c and recompile > > sysinstall, so it will recognize the idad disks for > > fdisk/disklabel operations. > > > > { DEVICE_TYPE_DISK, "idad%d", > > "Compaq SMART RAID adapter", 29, 65538, 8, 16, 'b' > > }, > > { DEVICE_TYPE_DISK, "ridad%d", > > "Compaq SMART RAID adapter", 109, 65538, 8, 16, 'c' > > }, > > > > seems odd, as at some point i think i read that 4.1 > > installation supports the smart raid devices out of > > the box (i.e. both in kernel and sysinstall)... > > > > barak > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Kick off your party with Yahoo! Invites. > > http://invites.yahoo.com/ > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > -- > Alan Edmonds Director of International Technology > DigitalConvergence.:Com > aedmonds@digitalconvergence.com > Phone: +1-214-292-6040 > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 3 18:54:13 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from zork.sf-bay.org (zork.sf-bay.org [192.150.103.29]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2163337B9B0 for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2000 18:54:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from scott@zorch.sf-bay.org) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by zork.sf-bay.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with UUCP id SAA00193 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Thu, 3 Aug 2000 18:54:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from scott@zorch.sf-bay.org) Received: (from scott@localhost) by zorba.sf-bay.org (8.9.3/8.8.8) id JAA08767 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Fri, 4 Aug 2000 09:51:09 +0800 (HKT) (envelope-from scott) Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2000 09:51:09 +0800 (HKT) From: Scott Hazen Mueller Message-Id: <200008040151.JAA08767@zorba.sf-bay.org> To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Irda support Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG [I've been reading via the archive, let's see if I can post without subscribing to the actual list...] First - Benno, you might want to look at http://www.posi.net/freebsd/drivers/driver-info.phtml?ID=4 and see if Martin is doing anything with his IRDA driver project. Maybe it will save you some work, though offhand your two approaches sound different to me. Second - is it worth having? I think the answer to that is if the FreeBSD folks want tech types - those folks already running FreeBSD on servers - to be able to use F as a replacement for W, then support for things like IRDA are good to have. Third - thanks to all of the contributors for all of the great work. I've been running FreeBSD since around 1995, currently on two servers and a laptop, and it's great. Recent (4.x) work lets me use it as a nearly complete replacement for Win9x, what with the linux emulation, vmware port, ICA client port, Star Office and so on. \scott To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 3 18:59:34 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from hiro.netizen.com.au (ivanova.netizen.com.au [203.30.75.107]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 413FE37B9B5 for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2000 18:59:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from benno@netizen.com.au) Received: by hiro.netizen.com.au (Postfix, from userid 516) id C4DF7215EC; Fri, 4 Aug 2000 11:59:24 +1000 (EST) Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2000 11:59:24 +1000 From: Benno Rice To: Scott Hazen Mueller Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Irda support Message-ID: <20000804115924.C3266@netizen.com.au> References: <200008040151.JAA08767@zorba.sf-bay.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <200008040151.JAA08767@zorba.sf-bay.org>; from scott@zorch.sf-bay.org on Fri, Aug 04, 2000 at 09:51:09AM +0800 X-Message-Flag: Outlook: More exploits than sendmail? Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, Aug 04, 2000 at 09:51:09AM +0800, Scott Hazen Mueller wrote: > [I've been reading via the archive, let's see if I can post without > subscribing to the actual list...] > > First - Benno, you might want to look at > http://www.posi.net/freebsd/drivers/driver-info.phtml?ID=4 and see if Martin > is doing anything with his IRDA driver project. Maybe it will save you some > work, though offhand your two approaches sound different to me. I saw that a while back, although I haven't got in contact yet. (Mea culpa) > Second - is it worth having? I think the answer to that is if the FreeBSD > folks want tech types - those folks already running FreeBSD on servers - to be > able to use F as a replacement for W, then support for things like IRDA are > good to have. I think it's a nice thing to have. I'm writing it because I'd like to be able to communicate with my Palm, but I could also see possibilities in other areas. -- Benno Rice "No, no. We're *sweet* and XNFP Aries Dark Subculture- *innocent* evil bastards." friendly Internet Geek benno@netizen.com.au "Defend your joy" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 3 19:25:33 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7D1E37B938 for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2000 19:25:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA72103; Thu, 3 Aug 2000 20:25:23 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id UAA07041; Thu, 3 Aug 2000 20:25:18 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <200008040225.UAA07041@harmony.village.org> To: Benno Rice Subject: Re: Irda support Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 04 Aug 2000 10:46:07 +1000." <20000804104607.A3266@netizen.com.au> References: <20000804104607.A3266@netizen.com.au> <20000803231034.K3777@netizen.com.au> <20000803090040.A505@judea.rss.riteaid.com> <20000803231034.K3777@netizen.com.au> <200008031535.JAA02986@harmony.village.org> Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2000 20:25:18 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <20000804104607.A3266@netizen.com.au> Benno Rice writes: : /usr/ports/palm has a lot of stuff that implements the HotSync protocol. : My intention was for IrCOMM connections to show up as a tty-like device, : which means that you just point one of those at /dev/ttyi0 or somesuch. =) Ah. The HotSync protocol yes (that being the protocol for Palm). I misspoke and should have said the ActiveSync protocol from MS isn't documented. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 3 19:27:25 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from hiro.netizen.com.au (ivanova.netizen.com.au [203.30.75.107]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFF8A37B5CA for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2000 19:27:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from benno@netizen.com.au) Received: by hiro.netizen.com.au (Postfix, from userid 516) id ECEE3215EC; Fri, 4 Aug 2000 12:27:19 +1000 (EST) Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2000 12:27:19 +1000 From: Benno Rice To: Warner Losh Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Irda support Message-ID: <20000804122719.E3266@netizen.com.au> References: <20000804104607.A3266@netizen.com.au> <20000803231034.K3777@netizen.com.au> <20000803090040.A505@judea.rss.riteaid.com> <20000803231034.K3777@netizen.com.au> <200008031535.JAA02986@harmony.village.org> <20000804104607.A3266@netizen.com.au> <200008040225.UAA07041@harmony.village.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <200008040225.UAA07041@harmony.village.org>; from imp@village.org on Thu, Aug 03, 2000 at 08:25:18PM -0600 X-Message-Flag: Outlook: More exploits than sendmail? Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Aug 03, 2000 at 08:25:18PM -0600, Warner Losh wrote: > In message <20000804104607.A3266@netizen.com.au> Benno Rice writes: > : /usr/ports/palm has a lot of stuff that implements the HotSync protocol. > : My intention was for IrCOMM connections to show up as a tty-like device, > : which means that you just point one of those at /dev/ttyi0 or somesuch. =) > > Ah. The HotSync protocol yes (that being the protocol for Palm). I > misspoke and should have said the ActiveSync protocol from MS isn't > documented. Ah. Yes. Funny, that. =) -- Benno Rice "No, no. We're *sweet* and XNFP Aries Dark Subculture- *innocent* evil bastards." friendly Internet Geek benno@netizen.com.au "Defend your joy" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 3 19:31:13 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from narcissus.net (narcissus.net [209.73.230.146]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D039237B5CA for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2000 19:31:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ben@narcissus.net) Received: by narcissus.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 163741B5; Thu, 3 Aug 2000 22:19:32 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2000 22:19:31 -0400 From: Ben Rosengart To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: MD_NSECT Message-ID: <20000803221931.A598@narcissus.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, I am using an MD-based /tmp. This defaults to 20000 sectors, or 10 megs. According to LINT and to md(4), I can change this by compiling options MD_NSECT=300000 into my kernel for a 150-meg /tmp. But I have done so, and it seems to make no difference. I must be missing something. % uname -a FreeBSD narcissus.net 4.1-STABLE FreeBSD 4.1-STABLE #0: Thu Aug 3 16:58:39 EDT 2000 ben@narcissus.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/NARCISSUS i386 % grep -i md NARCISSUS options MD_NSECT=300000 pseudo-device md -- Ben "I didn't order any WOO-WOO... Maybe a YUBBA... But no WOO-WOO!" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 3 19:31:57 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.fastnet.co.jp (buta.fine.ad.jp [202.228.129.236]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE25137BA4D for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2000 19:31:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kosaka@fastnet.co.jp) Received: from kosaka (fngw [202.228.129.253]) by mail.fastnet.co.jp (8.9.3/3.7W-99121009) with SMTP id LAA01037; Fri, 4 Aug 2000 11:31:28 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from kosaka@fastnet.co.jp) Message-Id: <4.0.1-J.20000804110610.03451230@mail.fastnet.co.jp> X-Sender: kosaka@fastnet.co.jp X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0.1-J Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2000 11:31:07 +0900 To: Mike Smith , thomas@hentschel.net From: Masahiko Kosaka Subject: Re: mlxcontrol Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <200008040020.RAA05366@mass.osd.bsdi.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi Mike and Thomas, Thanks for your advice. I could get each drive status.(like following..) I think it is very cool! Thanks Mike. #mlxcontrol status -v mlxd0 mlxd0: critical [consistency check: 33827328/35831808, 5% complete] # mlxcontrol config mlx0 # Controller # # Physical devices connected: # disk0000 (online) # 'IBM ' 'DNES-309170Y ' 'SA30' 8748MB fast20 wide sync tag-enabled # disk0001 (write-only) # 'IBM ' 'DNES-309170Y ' 'SA30' 8748MB fast20 wide sync tag-enabled # disk0002 (dead) # 8748MB wide :snip: At 00/08/04 09:20, Mike Smith wrote: > > Hi all > > > > I'm using mylex AcceleRAID 150 and works fine. > > But I don't know how I will know the status of > > each HDD,such as "online","hot spare","NG" etc. > Check that you have created /dev/mlx0 as well as the nodes for /dev/mlxd0. > At 00/08/04 01:51, thomas@hentschel.net wrote: > cd /dev && ./MAKEDEV mlxd0 (or mlx0 ? -- sorry, forgot :) > --- FastNet,Inc. Masahiko Kosaka tel:03-5701-8940 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 3 20:42:38 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from odusv.oduurl.ru (relay.oduurl.ru [195.12.73.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 55D2537B62B; Thu, 3 Aug 2000 20:41:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from arap@oduurl.ru) Received: from oduurl.ru by odusv.oduurl.ru with ESMTP id JAA28662 (8.6.12); Fri, 4 Aug 2000 09:25:25 +0600 Message-ID: <398A3814.FF8C39F6@oduurl.ru> Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2000 09:27:16 +0600 From: Alexander Organization: ODU Urala X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ben Hacker Jr Cc: list DC-FBSD , questions FBSD , Stable FBSD , Ben Hacker Jr Subject: Re: Router "ep2" issue References: <20000803210513.11627.qmail@web4502.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Ben Hacker Jr wrote: > > Hello all... > > I built a router about six months back and it has been > > working pretty good except that sometimes I will lose > connectivity to the subnet on one of the ports (ep2). > > I lost connectivity again today and tried to figure > out what > was going wrong. I don't know how to tell if it is > caused > by hardware or my configuration. Same problem with "ep" drivers: - 4x3com579(EISA) in i486DX50 - 3.4-STABLE FreeBSD - cured "ifconfig down/up" I suppose a ethernet problems Problems disapear when I disconnect new station with unnamed network card > > 10Mb 100Mb > +---------------+ > 10.44.17.062/27=|ep0 FreeBSD | > 10.44.17.126/27=|ep1 Router > xl0|=10.44.25.250/30 > 10.44.17.222/27=|ep2 | > +---------------+ > me@FBSD_Router1$ uname -a > FreeBSD FBSD_Router1 3.4-STABLE FreeBSD 3.4-STABLE #2: > Fri Mar 17 11 > :42:33 EST 2000 > me@FBSD_Router1:/usr/src/sys/compile/Router1-4 i386 > me@FBSD_Router1$ > > network_interfaces="xl0 ep2 ep1 ep0 lo0" > ifconfig_xl0="inet 10.44.25.250 netmask > 255.255.255.252" > ifconfig_ep2="inet 10.44.17.222 netmask > 255.255.255.224" > ifconfig_ep1="inet 10.44.17.126 netmask > 255.255.255.224" > ifconfig_ep0="inet 10.44.17.62 netmask > 255.255.255.224" > defaultrouter="10.44.25.249" > > After logging into the router from the ep1 subnet I > tried to ping > out to all the subnets. The results are listed below: > > me@FBSD_Router1$ ping 10.44.17.38 > PING 10.44.17.38 (10.44.17.38): 56 data bytes > VIA ep0 > 64 bytes from 10.44.17.38: icmp_seq=0 ttl=128 > time=1.114 ms > 64 bytes from 10.44.17.38: icmp_seq=1 ttl=128 > time=0.645 ms > 64 bytes from 10.44.17.38: icmp_seq=2 ttl=128 > time=0.594 ms > 64 bytes from 10.44.17.38: icmp_seq=3 ttl=128 > time=0.596 ms > 64 bytes from 10.44.17.38: icmp_seq=4 ttl=128 > time=0.617 ms > 64 bytes from 10.44.17.38: icmp_seq=5 ttl=128 > time=0.611 ms > 64 bytes from 10.44.17.38: icmp_seq=6 ttl=128 > time=0.613 ms > 64 bytes from 10.44.17.38: icmp_seq=7 ttl=128 > time=0.608 ms > > me@FBSD_Router1$ ping 10.44.17.105 > PING 10.44.17.105 (10.44.17.105): 56 data bytes > VIA ep1 > 64 bytes from 10.44.17.105: icmp_seq=0 ttl=128 > time=0.722 ms > 64 bytes from 10.44.17.105: icmp_seq=1 ttl=128 > time=0.600 ms > 64 bytes from 10.44.17.105: icmp_seq=2 ttl=128 > time=0.587 ms > 64 bytes from 10.44.17.105: icmp_seq=3 ttl=128 > time=0.610 ms > 64 bytes from 10.44.17.105: icmp_seq=4 ttl=128 > time=0.578 ms > > me@FBSD_Router1$ ping 10.44.17.200 > VIA ep2 > ping: sendto: No buffer space available > ping: sendto: No buffer space available > ping: sendto: No buffer space available > ping: sendto: No buffer space available (Apparently > this is the problem.) > ping: sendto: No buffer space available > ping: sendto: No buffer space available > ping: sendto: No buffer space available > > me@FBSD_Router1$ ping 10.44.12.150 > PING 10.44.12.150 (10.44.12.150): 56 data bytes > VIA xl0 > 64 bytes from 10.44.12.150: icmp_seq=0 ttl=254 > time=1.629 ms > 64 bytes from 10.44.12.150: icmp_seq=1 ttl=254 > time=1.754 ms > 64 bytes from 10.44.12.150: icmp_seq=2 ttl=254 > time=1.665 ms > > I had found in the past that if I down the adapter ep2 > and brought > it back up again the communications would resume so > that is what > the shellscript "updown2" does. > > me@FBSD_Router1$ su root -c updown2 > Password: > ep2: flags=8c02 > mtu 1500 > inet 10.44.17.222 netmask 0xffffffe0 broadcast > 10.44.17.223 > inet 10.54.17.222 netmask 0xffffffe0 broadcast > 10.54.17.223 > ether 00:a0:24:23:70:cc > ep2: > flags=8843 mtu > 1500 > inet 10.44.17.222 netmask 0xffffffe0 broadcast > 10.44.17.223 > inet 10.54.17.222 netmask 0xffffffe0 broadcast > 10.54.17.223 > ether 00:a0:24:23:70:cc > > Once I bring the adapter down and back up again it > apparently > functions fine (for a while at least. See below.) > What should I > do now?? > Replace the adapter? > Make some configuration change for that adapter in my > Kernel? > Update to v3.5? (The last time I cvsup'ed was prior > to the > router going online for real work.) > Or... What other config file do you want to see? > > me@FBSD_Router1$ ping 10.44.17.200 > PING 10.44.17.200 (10.44.17.200): 56 data bytes > VIA ep2 > 64 bytes from 10.44.17.200: icmp_seq=0 ttl=128 > time=0.641 ms > 64 bytes from 10.44.17.200: icmp_seq=1 ttl=128 > time=0.588 ms > 64 bytes from 10.44.17.200: icmp_seq=2 ttl=128 > time=0.568 ms > 64 bytes from 10.44.17.200: icmp_seq=3 ttl=128 > time=0.591 ms > 64 bytes from 10.44.17.200: icmp_seq=4 ttl=128 > time=0.575 ms > 64 bytes from 10.44.17.200: icmp_seq=5 ttl=128 > time=0.566 ms > ^C > --- 10.44.17.200 ping statistics --- > 6 packets transmitted, 6 packets received, 0% packet > loss > round-trip min/avg/max/stddev = > 0.566/0.588/0.641/0.025 ms > me@FBSD_Router1$ > > ===== > -=*=- -=*=- -=*=- -=*=- -=*=- -=*=- -=*=- -=*=- -=*=- > Ben Hacker Jr Technical Specialist > Computer Sciences Corporation > (703) 289-3477 MC 291 > bhacker1@csc.com 3170 Fairview Park Drive > strben@altavista.com Falls Church, VA 22304 > -=*=- -=*=- -=*=- -=*=- -=*=- -=*=- -=*=- -=*=- -=*=- > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Kick off your party with Yahoo! Invites. > http://invites.yahoo.com/ > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 3 20:42:44 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from bsa-1-as01-7-a29.gd.uol.com.br (bsa-1-as01-7-a29.gd.uol.com.br [200.197.118.29]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08E0437B9A5 for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2000 20:42:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lioux@uol.com.br) Received: (qmail 3016 invoked by uid 1001); 3 Aug 2000 18:39:43 -0000 From: "Mario Sergio Fujikawa Ferreira" Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2000 15:39:21 -0300 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: mouse problems with XFree86-4 (4.0.1)? Message-ID: <20000803153921.A3011@Fedaykin.here> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.4i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I just updated my XFree from 4.0 to 4.0.1 in order to check PR ports/20360 concerning rxvt and I noticed a strange behavior. If I change to a text console (alt-f[1-9]) while using X; when I do get back, the mouse is unavailable though I can use it in my text ttyv[0-7]. I have to shutdown the X session and restart it to get the mouse back. Everything was fine till I "updated" my X from 4.0 to 4.0.1. That is the only change, last nights for that matter. I am running a 4.1 STABLE as of 01/08/2000 (last tuesday) with X 4.0.1, KDE 1.1.2 and moused with no mouse flags. My "mouse" is a Logitech TrackMan Marble FX. Anyone has seen this too? Regards, Mario Ferreira To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 3 20:58:52 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from user1.erieonline.com (user1.erieonline.com [63.164.22.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27A0137B8BC; Thu, 3 Aug 2000 20:58:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Smith@ian.org) Received: from localhost (iansmith@localhost) by user1.erieonline.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA17994; Thu, 3 Aug 2000 23:58:46 -0400 Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2000 23:58:45 -0400 (EDT) From: Smith@ian.org X-Sender: iansmith@user1.erieonline.com To: Stable FBSD Cc: questions FBSD Subject: Bridging and IPFilter in 4.x In-Reply-To: <398A3814.FF8C39F6@oduurl.ru> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Are there plans (or is there currently) to do OpenBSD style bridge0 interfaces to allow bridging to be integrated easier into diffrent utilities? Currently I use IPFilter but have no way to work with bridged packets. I won't want to switch to IPFW as it does not have all the filter and nat rules that I need. It would be nice if bridging and diverting were done via bridge# and divert# interfaces.. but I assume that is not something that is easy to fix? Not trying to flame, but should I consider using OpenBSD instead if my needs are IPFilter and bridging? Thanks! -- Smith@ian.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 3 21:33:58 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from alcanet.com.au (mail.alcanet.com.au [203.62.196.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 515FF37B631 for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2000 21:33:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jeremyp@gsmx07.alcatel.com.au) Received: by border.alcanet.com.au id <115201>; Fri, 4 Aug 2000 14:33:25 +1000 Content-return: prohibited Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2000 14:33:19 +1000 From: Peter Jeremy Subject: Re: Cached versus non cached disk I/O In-reply-to: ; from tom@uniserve.com on Thu, Aug 03, 2000 at 03:20:02PM -0700 To: Tom Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mail-followup-to: Tom , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Message-Id: <00Aug4.143325est.115201@border.alcanet.com.au> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.4i References: <00Aug4.072549est.115835@border.alcanet.com.au> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 2000-Aug-03 15:20:02 -0700, Tom wrote: >On Fri, 4 Aug 2000, Peter Jeremy wrote: >> Not quite. softupdates is actually more robust than a normal FS >> mount (and far more robust than async). > Not likely. I personally pushed softupdates over the edge before (see >archives). In my case, the amount of unwritten metadata filled up all >kernel space. The filesystem was recoverable, but fsck filled up >lost+found several times (that should be considered a fsck bug that wasn't >possible to expose without softupdates). It was rather messy. That definitely is (or was) a bug in softupdates - it's not supposed to behave that way. I presume you're referring to the postmark test you were running last December on 3.4-STABLE. Looking at the CVS logs, the core softupdates code would have been 1.34.2.3, which is now nearly a year old. Have you tried repeating your tests on a more version of softupdates (5-CURRENT or 4-STABLE)? It looks like Kirk doesn't MFC many of the changes he makes in -CURRENT, but there were are a lot of softupdates fixes in 4-STABLE compared to 3-STABLE. (From what I can see, there has only been one real bugfix in -CURRENT since 4-STABLE branched - that related to a panic if user quotas were exceeded). Peter To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 3 22:24:44 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mailhost01.reflexnet.net (mailhost01.reflexnet.net [64.6.192.82]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C74A837B7A0 for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2000 22:24:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cjc@184.215.6.64.reflexcom.com) Received: from 184.215.6.64.reflexcom.com ([64.6.215.184]) by mailhost01.reflexnet.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.197.19); Thu, 3 Aug 2000 22:23:38 -0700 Received: (from cjc@localhost) by 184.215.6.64.reflexcom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA66328; Thu, 3 Aug 2000 22:24:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cjc) Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2000 22:24:36 -0700 From: "Crist J . Clark" To: Jonathan Vaughan Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Unable to get IP address of own host during CVSup Message-ID: <20000803222436.B66052@184.215.6.64.reflexcom.com> Reply-To: cjclark@alum.mit.edu References: <00080315210102.01468@Praetorian> <20000804001656.C3360@strontium.scientia.demon.co.uk> <20000804003808.A1307@mashed.turnip.org.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <20000804003808.A1307@mashed.turnip.org.uk>; from jonathan@turnip.org.uk on Fri, Aug 04, 2000 at 12:38:08AM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, Aug 04, 2000 at 12:38:08AM +0100, Jonathan Vaughan wrote: > On Fri, Aug 04, 2000 at 12:16:56AM +0100, Ben Smithurst wrote: > > Robert L. Bostic wrote: > > > > > I am attempting to cvsup over a dial-up connection. I get the > > > following error message: > > >> Praetorian# cvsup stable-supfile Cannot get IP address of my own > > >> host -- is its hostname correct? > > > I know I can't be the first to encounter this problem. How can I > > > correct this? > > > > Well, I don't know how the message could be made any clearer... You > > need an entry for your hostname (as reported by `hostname`) in > > /etc/hosts or in DNS, e.g. > > > > 127.0.0.1 my.hostname.example.com localhost > > > > or something. > > I thought the correct way was to have something like > > ifconfig_lo0_alias0="inet 10.0.0.1 netmask 0xffffffff" This is not the correct way. This is a Bad Idea. Don't give the loopback any address but 127.0.0.1. > and a hosts file like > > 127.0.0.1 localhost.turnip.org.uk localhost > 10.0.0.1 mashed.turnip.org.uk mashed This is fine, but remember that 'hosts' has to appear in /etc/host.conf for the /etc/hosts file to be referenced. -- Crist J. Clark cjclark@alum.mit.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 3 22:51:22 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.gmx.net (pop.gmx.net [194.221.183.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 014B637B7A0 for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2000 22:51:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Gerhard.Sittig@gmx.net) Received: (qmail 16450 invoked by uid 0); 4 Aug 2000 05:51:17 -0000 Received: from pc19f5d26.dip.t-dialin.net (HELO speedy.gsinet) (193.159.93.38) by mail.gmx.net with SMTP; 4 Aug 2000 05:51:17 -0000 Received: (from sittig@localhost) by speedy.gsinet (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA11657 for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Thu, 3 Aug 2000 20:27:09 +0200 Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2000 20:27:09 +0200 From: Gerhard Sittig To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Upgrading from 4.1-R to 4.1-S Message-ID: <20000803202708.F9035@speedy.gsinet> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <001101bffd1a$a12692e0$1b9b3218@pit.adelphia.net> <20000803005926.A12227@luna.osd.bsdi.com> <000501bffd32$3d7604c0$1b9b3218@pit.adelphia.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <000501bffd32$3d7604c0$1b9b3218@pit.adelphia.net>; from nturki@adelphia.net on Thu, Aug 03, 2000 at 06:04:40AM -0400 Organization: System Defenestrators Inc. Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Aug 03, 2000 at 06:04 -0400, Nader Turki wrote: > So the way it works is: > - cvsup > - cd /usr/src > - make world > - make buildkernel KERNEL=MYKERNEL > - make installkernel KERNEL=MYKERNEL > - reboot > > is that it? Not quite (it may work, but I wouldn't do it this way). "make world" will include buildworld as well as installworld. So the later steps run with an old kernel and a new world. Minimize this window of inconsistency by rearrangement: update sources make buildworld make buildkernel make installkernel make installworld mergemaster(!) BTW the list archive is full with these threads. Especially since the "HEADS UP!" for the binutils upgrade and the therefor suggested buildkernel procedure. You can find a whole lot of proven rulesets for updating there. virtually yours 82D1 9B9C 01DC 4FB4 D7B4 61BE 3F49 4F77 72DE DA76 Gerhard Sittig true | mail -s "get gpg key" Gerhard.Sittig@gmx.net -- If you don't understand or are scared by any of the above ask your parents or an adult to help you. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 3 23:26:58 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from numeri.campus.luth.se (numeri.campus.luth.se [130.240.197.103]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FDBD37B85F for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2000 23:26:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from k@numeri.campus.luth.se) Received: from numeri.campus.luth.se (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by numeri.campus.luth.se (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA89893; Fri, 4 Aug 2000 08:27:33 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from k@numeri.campus.luth.se) Message-Id: <200008040627.IAA89893@numeri.campus.luth.se> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: "Mario Sergio Fujikawa Ferreira" Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: mouse problems with XFree86-4 (4.0.1)? In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 03 Aug 2000 15:39:21 -0300." <20000803153921.A3011@Fedaykin.here> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2000 08:27:33 +0200 From: Johan Karlsson Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At Thu, 03 Aug 2000 15:39:21 -0300, "Mario Sergio Fujikawa Ferreira" wrote: > I just updated my XFree from 4.0 to 4.0.1 in order > to check PR ports/20360 concerning rxvt and I noticed a > strange behavior. > If I change to a text console (alt-f[1-9]) while > using X; when I do get back, the mouse is unavailable though > I can use it in my text ttyv[0-7]. I have to shutdown the > X session and restart it to get the mouse back. > Everything was fine till I "updated" my X from > 4.0 to 4.0.1. That is the only change, last nights > for that matter. > I am running a 4.1 STABLE as of 01/08/2000 > (last tuesday) with X 4.0.1, KDE 1.1.2 and moused > with no mouse flags. My "mouse" is a Logitech > TrackMan Marble FX. > Anyone has seen this too? Yes and the solution was to change the mouse protocol in the XF86Config file from 'auto' to 'Mousesystems'. Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Mouse0" Driver "mouse" Option "Protocol" "Mousesystems" Option "Device" "/dev/mouse" EndSection This was disscused in -current a few day ago. /Johan K To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Aug 4 0:23: 7 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mass.osd.bsdi.com (adsl-63-202-177-42.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [63.202.177.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFCDB37B6F8 for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2000 00:22:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msmith@mass.osd.bsdi.com) Received: from mass.osd.bsdi.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mass.osd.bsdi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA00618 for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2000 00:34:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msmith@mass.osd.bsdi.com) Message-Id: <200008040734.AAA00618@mass.osd.bsdi.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Mylex adapters with 2.x firmware and "couldn't map register window" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2000 00:34:01 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I've had a lot of requests for something to be done about this, and I've finally gotten a few minutes to make it happen. The fix for this has been committed to -stable, and there's a kit for 4.1-RELEASE users wanting to install on these adapters at http://people.freebsd.org/~msmith/RAID/mylex/mlx2_patchkit.tar.gz Note that this has only been lightly tested; the changes don't affect other adapters, but I don't have one of these adapters to test with directly (all my v2.x adapters have memory windows). I have two success reports already though, and I'd like to hear a few more. -- ... every activity meets with opposition, everyone who acts has his rivals and unfortunately opponents also. But not because people want to be opponents, rather because the tasks and relationships force people to take different points of view. [Dr. Fritz Todt] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Aug 4 0:59:47 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AB1A37B8C5 for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2000 00:59:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA75814; Thu, 3 Aug 2000 23:59:30 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2000 23:59:30 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: "Henry F. Marquardt" Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, Jason Kasper Subject: Re: Irda support Message-ID: <20000803235930.A75765@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> References: <2969.965271549@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.4i In-Reply-To: ; from hank@yerpso.net on Wed, Aug 02, 2000 at 10:18:12PM -0500 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Aug 02, 2000 at 10:18:12PM -0500, Henry F. Marquardt wrote: > I agree, this is a 'lost' technology, a solution in search of a problem. > Even the palm crowd doesn't use it much that I've seen - I remember some of > the early marketing hype there with people swapping IR business cards - I > don't think I've ever seen anyone do that Do it all the time. > and I don't think I could figure > out how in any reasonable amount of time with mine - it'd be quicker to > scribble on a napkin. Being able to sync my Palm pilot with my Vaio using IR would be *very* nice. One less set of cables to have to carry around with me. > Same with my laptop, it was configured as com2 and as far as I was concerned > just taking up IRQ space - I turned it off when I put FBSD on there. > Doesn't mean you should play with it, but what are you going to *use* it > for? There are a bunch of mobile phones out here with built in modems. Point the phone at the computer and suddenly (in Windows) you've got a modem attached to COM2 (or whatever) -- again, without needing the additional cabling. This is a good thing. N -- Internet connection, $19.95 a month. Computer, $799.95. Modem, $149.95. Telephone line, $24.95 a month. Software, free. USENET transmission, hundreds if not thousands of dollars. Thinking before posting, priceless. Somethings in life you can't buy. For everything else, there's MasterCard. -- Graham Reed, in the Scary Devil Monastery To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Aug 4 1: 1: 3 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail6.svr.pol.co.uk (mail6.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.193.212]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 941C937B7A1 for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2000 01:00:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jonathan@turnip.org.uk) Received: from modem-6.elessar.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.185.6] helo=mashed.turnip.org.uk) by mail6.svr.pol.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #0) id 13KcPV-00020j-00; Fri, 04 Aug 2000 09:00:53 +0100 Received: from jonathan by mashed.turnip.org.uk with local (Exim 3.16 #1) id 13KcPg-00005x-00; Fri, 04 Aug 2000 09:01:04 +0100 Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2000 09:01:03 +0100 From: Jonathan Vaughan To: cjclark@alum.mit.edu Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Unable to get IP address of own host during CVSup Message-ID: <20000804090103.A333@mashed.turnip.org.uk> References: <00080315210102.01468@Praetorian> <20000804001656.C3360@strontium.scientia.demon.co.uk> <20000804003808.A1307@mashed.turnip.org.uk> <20000803222436.B66052@184.215.6.64.reflexcom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.4i In-Reply-To: <20000803222436.B66052@184.215.6.64.reflexcom.com>; from cjclark@reflexnet.net on Thu, Aug 03, 2000 at 10:24:36PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Aug 03, 2000 at 10:24:36PM -0700, Crist J . Clark wrote: > On Fri, Aug 04, 2000 at 12:38:08AM +0100, Jonathan Vaughan wrote: > > I thought the correct way was to have something like > > > > ifconfig_lo0_alias0="inet 10.0.0.1 netmask 0xffffffff" > > This is not the correct way. This is a Bad Idea. Don't give the > loopback any address but 127.0.0.1. That just being an alias for the loopbaak device. I also have ifconfig_lo0="inet 127.0.0.1". Trawling through the mailing list archives, this was advised as what should be done. in linux I would set up a dummy interface for the IP address. -- Jonathan Vaughan jonathan@turnip.org.uk PGP Key ID: 0x0AF58107 http://home.clara.net/turnip/pgp.txt | jon@pgpkey.turnip.org.uk | keyservers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Aug 4 3: 3:40 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from chg.ru (netserv1.chg.ru [193.233.46.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB86A37B8C5 for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2000 03:03:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andrew@netserv1.chg.ru) Received: from localhost (andrew@localhost) by chg.ru (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA49283; Fri, 4 Aug 2000 14:03:07 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from andrew@netserv1.chg.ru) Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2000 14:03:07 +0400 (MSD) From: "Andrew L. Neporada" To: jack Cc: "H . S . YOON" , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Does anyone succeed on making world from 3.5S to 4.1S ? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG -- Andrew. On Mon, 31 Jul 2000, jack wrote: > Today H . S . YOON wrote: > > > Does anyone succeed on making world from 3.5S to 4.1S? > > A buildworld of 4.1-RELEASE on a 3.5-RELEASE box worked for me. > I haven't installed it yet. Buildworld (sources approx. 4.1-RC2, system - 3.5-STABLE) worked for me too, but when I made installworld it fails with Signal 12 in the middle of process. Subsequent runs of make installworld cause immediate failure with message obout LC_CTIME!=... (sorry, don't remember details). I'm sure this is not a hardware issue because it happens on two different boxes (not overclocked) P.S. I know about src/UPDATING ;-). > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Jack O'Neill Systems Administrator / Systems Analyst > jack@germanium.xtalwind.net Crystal Wind Communications, Inc. > Finger jack@germanium.xtalwind.net for my PGP key. > PGP Key fingerprint = F6 C4 E6 D4 2F 15 A7 67 FD 09 E9 3C 5F CC EB CD > enriched, vcard, HTML messages > /dev/null > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Aug 4 3:11:13 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from cosa.uk-legal.net (cosa.uk-legal.net [212.240.216.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB1A637B550 for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2000 03:11:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andrew@cosa.uk-legal.net) Received: by cosa.uk-legal.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id AEA51112BA; Fri, 4 Aug 2000 11:09:35 +0100 (BST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cosa.uk-legal.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C32032; Fri, 4 Aug 2000 11:09:35 +0100 (BST) Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2000 11:09:35 +0100 (BST) From: Andrew Tulloch To: "Andrew L. Neporada" Cc: jack , "H . S . YOON" , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Does anyone succeed on making world from 3.5S to 4.1S ? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I had a similar experience with 3.4-s to 4.x-s, however, mine was simply cause by me not reading /usr/src/UPDATING, after reading that I had no problems... (although I actually recovered that machine without reinstalling after using /stand/sysinstall as my shell, when nothing else would load anymore, then following the instructions correctly got it all back) Andrew On Fri, 4 Aug 2000, Andrew L. Neporada wrote: > > > -- Andrew. > > On Mon, 31 Jul 2000, jack wrote: > > > Today H . S . YOON wrote: > > > > > Does anyone succeed on making world from 3.5S to 4.1S? > > > > A buildworld of 4.1-RELEASE on a 3.5-RELEASE box worked for me. > > I haven't installed it yet. > > Buildworld (sources approx. 4.1-RC2, system - 3.5-STABLE) worked for me > too, but when I made installworld it fails with Signal 12 in the middle of > process. Subsequent runs of make installworld cause immediate failure > with message obout LC_CTIME!=... (sorry, don't remember details). I'm sure > this is not a hardware issue because it happens on two different boxes > (not overclocked) > > P.S. I know about src/UPDATING ;-). > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Jack O'Neill Systems Administrator / Systems Analyst > > jack@germanium.xtalwind.net Crystal Wind Communications, Inc. > > Finger jack@germanium.xtalwind.net for my PGP key. > > PGP Key fingerprint = F6 C4 E6 D4 2F 15 A7 67 FD 09 E9 3C 5F CC EB CD > > enriched, vcard, HTML messages > /dev/null > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Aug 4 3:25:53 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from snoopy.brwn.org (intgw1.brwn.org [196.28.127.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75AA237BA38 for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2000 03:25:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from willem@snoopy.brwn.org) Received: by snoopy.brwn.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id CABAB1D9F; Fri, 4 Aug 2000 12:25:39 +0200 (SAST) Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2000 12:25:39 +0200 From: Willem Brown To: Chris Shenton Cc: Gabriel Ambuehl , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Re[2]: Network load balancing hardware ... Message-ID: <20000804122539.R55450@snoopy.brwn.org> References: <20000803201554.J55450@snoopy.brwn.org> <147207323245.20000803202244@buz.ch> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: ; from cshenton@uucom.com on Thu, Aug 03, 2000 at 06:40:06PM -0400 X-Public-Key: http://willem.brwn.org/pubkey.txt X-Chat-Server: http://chat.brwn.org/ Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, You just have to fall in love with open source software. :) I used freshmeat.net to look for VRRP and found this site. http://w3.arobas.net/~jetienne/vrrpd/index.html It seems to only run on Linux for the moment. It is a userspace app so maybe getting it to work on something else might not be too difficult. On Thu, Aug 03, 2000 at 06:40:06PM -0400, Chris Shenton wrote: > On Thu, 3 Aug 2000 20:22:44 +0200, Gabriel Ambuehl said: > > > Gabriel> Eddie's feature list looks pretty impressive but what happens > Gabriel> if the load balancing box itself crashes? > > Is anyone aware of a freely available VRRP implementation? I looked > about 6 months ago and didn't see anything. Seems like it would be > handy for balancers as well as firewalls. Best Regards Willem Brown -- /* =============================================================== */ /* Linux, FreeBSD, NetBSD, OpenBSD. The choice is yours. */ /* =============================================================== */ When the need arises, any tool or object closest to you becomes a hammer. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Aug 4 6:11:35 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from privatecube.privatelabs.com (privatecube.privatelabs.com [198.143.31.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59A2D37BAB9 for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2000 06:11:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mi@virtual-estates.net) Received: from misha.privatelabs.com (misha.privatelabs.com [198.143.31.6]) by privatecube.privatelabs.com (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id IAA10159; Fri, 4 Aug 2000 08:10:32 -0400 Received: from virtual-estates.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by misha.privatelabs.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA30725; Fri, 4 Aug 2000 09:06:39 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mi@virtual-estates.net) Message-Id: <200008041306.JAA30725@misha.privatelabs.com> Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2000 09:06:37 -0400 (EDT) From: mi@aldan.algebra.com Subject: Re: Router "ep2" issue To: Ben Hacker Jr Cc: stable@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20000803210513.11627.qmail@web4502.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 3 Aug, Ben Hacker Jr wrote: = Hello all... = = I built a router about six months back and it has been = = working pretty good except that sometimes I will lose = connectivity to the subnet on one of the ports (ep2). When I was getting this crap from the ep-driver (about daily) I put in a cron job to ``ifconfig ep2 down; sleep 1; ifconfig ep1''. Nobody appears to care enough for the driver to fix it :-( -mi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Aug 4 6:27:25 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.dcnv.com (mail.dcnv.com [216.33.117.136]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E4A337BB16 for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2000 06:27:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from aedmonds@digitalconvergence.com) Received: from digitalconvergence.com (sledge [207.158.100.67]) by mail.dcnv.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA92614; Fri, 4 Aug 2000 08:25:17 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from aedmonds@digitalconvergence.com) Message-ID: <398AC4B5.2A919E4B@digitalconvergence.com> Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2000 08:27:17 -0500 From: Alan Edmonds X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Barak Enat Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: sysinstall and compaq smart raid disks (idad) References: <20000803185946.19054.qmail@web1304.mail.yahoo.com> <3989CBC4.2792D8A2@digitalconvergence.com> <0e3701bffd8e$7f8e5180$0600a8c0@barak> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I used the sysinstall from the June 2nd snapshot. The DL360 can't boot the freebsd CD so I created the two floppy set to install with. I did use the sysinstall on the floppies. The dmesg identifies the device as: ida0: port 0x2000-0x20ff mem 0xc4000000-0xc4ffffff,0xc5000000-0xc5ffffff irq 3 at device 1.0 on pci0 ida0: drives=1 firm_rev=1.40 sysinstall detected this device just fine..... Barak Enat wrote: > > well, the complete story is: > 1. i had 3.4 on the compaq which had the old ida driver (stealing the wd > name). > 2. i followed the UPDATING procedure to move to 4.1 - with no problem (just > had to change the fstab to use the new idad device name). > 3. later on i added couple of disks and used the ACU to create another > logical drive (idad1) > 4. i tried to use /stand/sysinstall to fdisk/disklabel it, but it did not > recognize any of the idad devices, so i went ahead and fixed sysinstall. > maybe the sysinstall under /stand is different from the one on the > installation media??! > have you used sysinstall on your system? > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Alan Edmonds" > To: "Barak Enat" > Cc: > Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2000 10:45 PM > Subject: Re: sysinstall and compaq smart raid disks (idad) > > > I've got Compaq DL360s with the Integrated Smart > > RAID adapters and support was added to 4.0-STABLE > > on June 2nd. I was able to use the June 2nd > > snapshot of 4.0-STABLE and it installed fine. > > > > Have you run the configuration utility and created > > the RAID volume? > > > > > > Barak Enat wrote: > > > > > > hi, > > > > > > don't know if this is helpfull, but i had to add the > > > following two lines to > > > /usr/src/release/sysinstall/devices.c and recompile > > > sysinstall, so it will recognize the idad disks for > > > fdisk/disklabel operations. > > > > > > { DEVICE_TYPE_DISK, "idad%d", > > > "Compaq SMART RAID adapter", 29, 65538, 8, 16, 'b' > > > }, > > > { DEVICE_TYPE_DISK, "ridad%d", > > > "Compaq SMART RAID adapter", 109, 65538, 8, 16, 'c' > > > }, > > > > > > seems odd, as at some point i think i read that 4.1 > > > installation supports the smart raid devices out of > > > the box (i.e. both in kernel and sysinstall)... > > > > > > barak > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > Do You Yahoo!? > > > Kick off your party with Yahoo! Invites. > > > http://invites.yahoo.com/ > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > > > -- > > Alan Edmonds Director of International Technology > > DigitalConvergence.:Com > > aedmonds@digitalconvergence.com > > Phone: +1-214-292-6040 > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. > http://im.yahoo.com -- Alan Edmonds Director of International Technology DigitalConvergence.:Com aedmonds@digitalconvergence.com Phone: +1-214-292-6040 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Aug 4 7:27:50 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from earth.isni.net (earth.isni.net [208.160.180.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75E6337BB4E for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2000 07:27:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from zombie@isni.net) Received: from planet.isni.net (planet.isni.net [208.160.180.236]) by earth.isni.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id e74ERWx23058; Fri, 4 Aug 2000 10:27:32 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.0.20000804102421.00b193f0@mail.isni.net> X-Sender: zombie@mail.isni.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2000 10:26:54 -0400 To: Vinesh Christopher , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org From: Zombie Subject: RE: BuildWorld Fails....Please Advise In-Reply-To: <4A78850EF802D211BB3900805FFE55550BA86C@atl_es1.megatrends. com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I thank you for the advise. That fixed the problem. Seems it was somewhere around a million or so seconds off....figures. But again...Thank you Thanks, Don At 02:00 PM 8/2/00 -0400, Vinesh Christopher wrote: >This happened for me also. >It is due to the date/time of the system set incorrectly. >Check you system date/time and correct it. > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Zombie [SMTP:zombie@isni.net] > > Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2000 1:48 PM > > To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org > > Subject: Re: BuildWorld Fails....Please Advise > > > > A correction.....The error is still > > mkdir: build: File exists > > This is while compiling libperl. > > When I looked at the file that I redirected the buildworld to it didn't > > show. > > As a note I am running an stock install of freebsd 4.0 Release. I cvsup'd > > several times (once before each buildworld) > > > > At 08:59 AM 8/2/00 -0400, you wrote: > > > > > > I have been trying to buildworld for about a week now. I > > was getting a file exists error during libperl compile but after makeing > > clean and deleting the /usr/obj I now get this > > > > > > > > > Sorry if that was too much. Personally I am fairly new at this but > > I have had the help of my sys-admin and we can't find anything. If you > > need a full transcript of the buildworld I am able to supply. Can you > > please advise as to what can fix this. > > > > Thanks, > > Don > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Aug 4 8:12:50 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from topperwein.dyndns.org (acs-24-154-5-187.zoominternet.net [24.154.5.187]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7FE937BA40 for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2000 08:12:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from behanna@zbzoom.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by topperwein.zbzoom.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA95412 for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2000 07:24:23 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from behanna@zbzoom.net) Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2000 07:24:23 -0400 (EDT) From: Chris BeHanna Reply-To: behanna@zbzoom.net To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Non-PC Laughs Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG (Definitely not for the easily-offended!) http://www.zbzoom.net/~behanna/takeittux.jpg :-) -- Chris BeHanna Software Engineer (at yourfit.com) behanna@zbzoom.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Aug 4 8:12:58 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from topperwein.dyndns.org (acs-24-154-5-187.zoominternet.net [24.154.5.187]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7C2837BAEF; Fri, 4 Aug 2000 08:12:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from behanna@zbzoom.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by topperwein.zbzoom.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA95246; Fri, 4 Aug 2000 06:34:18 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from behanna@zbzoom.net) Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2000 06:34:18 -0400 (EDT) From: Chris BeHanna Reply-To: behanna@zbzoom.net To: Alexander Cc: Ben Hacker Jr , list DC-FBSD , questions FBSD , Stable FBSD , Ben Hacker Jr Subject: Re: Router "ep2" issue In-Reply-To: <398A3814.FF8C39F6@oduurl.ru> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 4 Aug 2000, Alexander wrote: > Ben Hacker Jr wrote: > > > > Hello all... > > > > I built a router about six months back and it has been > > > > working pretty good except that sometimes I will lose > > connectivity to the subnet on one of the ports (ep2). > > > > I lost connectivity again today and tried to figure > > out what > > was going wrong. I don't know how to tell if it is > > caused > > by hardware or my configuration. > > Same problem with "ep" drivers: > - 4x3com579(EISA) in i486DX50 > - 3.4-STABLE FreeBSD > - cured "ifconfig down/up" > I suppose a ethernet problems > Problems disapear when I disconnect new station with unnamed network > card Do these problems happen during thunderstorms, perchance? One of my coworkers recently turned me on to the fact that the ethernet standard requires that the NICs, and all components of the network, be properly grounded (no, not just to the box chassis) to be reliable. Of course, no one really does this, and most of the time you can get away without it, but sometimes you can't. Regards, Chris BeHanna behanna@zbzoom.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Aug 4 8:14:39 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.mdanderson.org (mail.mdacc.tmc.edu [143.111.87.47]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E668C37BA8C for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2000 08:14:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fosburgh@flash.net) Received: from jefnt (jef-nt.mdacc.tmc.edu [143.111.64.202]) by mail.mdanderson.org (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with SMTP id KAA23980; Fri, 4 Aug 2000 10:11:03 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <024e01bffe26$abf31470$ca406f8f@mdacc.tmc.edu> From: "Jonathan Fosburgh" To: "Vinesh Christopher" , , "Zombie" References: <4.3.2.7.0.20000804102421.00b193f0@mail.isni.net> Subject: Re: BuildWorld Fails....Please Advise Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2000 10:14:19 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG My fix to this was to rm rf contrib/perl, CVSup, and build again, and this time it worked. Jonathan Fosburgh Open Systems Communications and Computer Services UT MD Anderson Cancer Center Houston, TX 77030 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Zombie" To: "Vinesh Christopher" ; Sent: Friday, August 04, 2000 9:26 AM Subject: RE: BuildWorld Fails....Please Advise > I thank you for the advise. That fixed the problem. Seems it was somewhere > around a million or so seconds off....figures. But again...Thank you > > Thanks, > Don > > At 02:00 PM 8/2/00 -0400, Vinesh Christopher wrote: > >This happened for me also. > >It is due to the date/time of the system set incorrectly. > >Check you system date/time and correct it. > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Zombie [SMTP:zombie@isni.net] > > > Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2000 1:48 PM > > > To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org > > > Subject: Re: BuildWorld Fails....Please Advise > > > > > > A correction.....The error is still > > > mkdir: build: File exists > > > This is while compiling libperl. > > > When I looked at the file that I redirected the buildworld to it didn't > > > show. > > > As a note I am running an stock install of freebsd 4.0 Release. I cvsup'd > > > several times (once before each buildworld) > > > > > > At 08:59 AM 8/2/00 -0400, you wrote: > > > > > > > > > I have been trying to buildworld for about a week now. I > > > was getting a file exists error during libperl compile but after makeing > > > clean and deleting the /usr/obj I now get this > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sorry if that was too much. Personally I am fairly new at this but > > > I have had the help of my sys-admin and we can't find anything. If you > > > need a full transcript of the buildworld I am able to supply. Can you > > > please advise as to what can fix this. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Don > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Aug 4 8:39:16 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from privatecube.privatelabs.com (privatecube.privatelabs.com [198.143.31.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8EE037BA8C for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2000 08:39:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mi@virtual-estates.net) Received: from misha.privatelabs.com (misha.privatelabs.com [198.143.31.6]) by privatecube.privatelabs.com (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id KAA11941; Fri, 4 Aug 2000 10:38:07 -0400 Received: from virtual-estates.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by misha.privatelabs.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA73091; Fri, 4 Aug 2000 11:34:24 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mi@virtual-estates.net) Message-Id: <200008041534.LAA73091@misha.privatelabs.com> Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2000 11:34:23 -0400 (EDT) From: mi@aldan.algebra.com Subject: Re: Non-PC Laughs To: behanna@zbzoom.net Cc: stable@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 4 Aug, Chris BeHanna wrote: = (Definitely not for the easily-offended!) = = http://www.zbzoom.net/~behanna/takeittux.jpg = = :-) This is the second time this stupid picture is popping up on this list alone. Some other misguided yet BSD-liking fellow sent it to me personally about two weeks ago as well. I think, this shames the BSD camp and should be frowned upon and/or flamed to net.death. Cutely (if you find rape to be cute) offensive pictures are NOT why *BSD is better -- just like no amount of cute penguins should affect one's opinion of Linux. -mi (I guess, I'm easily offended, who would expect?..) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Aug 4 8:40:11 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail2.uniserve.com (mail2.uniserve.com [204.244.156.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF21737BB67 for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2000 08:40:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tom@uniserve.com) Received: from shell.uniserve.ca ([204.244.186.218]) by mail2.uniserve.com with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 13KjZM-000MZZ-00; Fri, 04 Aug 2000 08:39:32 -0700 Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2000 08:39:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom X-Sender: tom@shell.uniserve.ca To: cjclark@alum.mit.edu Cc: Jonathan Vaughan , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Unable to get IP address of own host during CVSup In-Reply-To: <20000803222436.B66052@184.215.6.64.reflexcom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 3 Aug 2000, Crist J . Clark wrote: > > I thought the correct way was to have something like > > > > ifconfig_lo0_alias0="inet 10.0.0.1 netmask 0xffffffff" > > This is not the correct way. This is a Bad Idea. Don't give the > loopback any address but 127.0.0.1. That is an alias address by the way. Assigning alias addresses to lo0 is perfectly ok thing to do. > > and a hosts file like > > > > 127.0.0.1 localhost.turnip.org.uk localhost > > 10.0.0.1 mashed.turnip.org.uk mashed > > This is fine, but remember that 'hosts' has to appear in /etc/host.conf > for the /etc/hosts file to be referenced. > -- > Crist J. Clark cjclark@alum.mit.com > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > Tom Uniserve To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Aug 4 8:43:38 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ptavv.es.net (ptavv.es.net [198.128.4.29]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8843D37BAEF; Fri, 4 Aug 2000 08:43:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from oberman@ptavv.es.net) Received: from ptavv.es.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ptavv.es.net (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id e74FgsU32161; Fri, 4 Aug 2000 08:42:54 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200008041542.e74FgsU32161@ptavv.es.net> To: behanna@zbzoom.net Cc: Alexander , Ben Hacker Jr , list DC-FBSD , questions FBSD , Stable FBSD , Ben Hacker Jr Subject: Re: Router "ep2" issue In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 04 Aug 2000 06:34:18 EDT." Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2000 08:42:54 -0700 From: "Kevin Oberman" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2000 06:34:18 -0400 (EDT) > From: Chris BeHanna > Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG > > On Fri, 4 Aug 2000, Alexander wrote: > > > Ben Hacker Jr wrote: > > > > > > Hello all... > > > > > > I built a router about six months back and it has been > > > > > > working pretty good except that sometimes I will lose > > > connectivity to the subnet on one of the ports (ep2). > > > > > > I lost connectivity again today and tried to figure > > > out what > > > was going wrong. I don't know how to tell if it is > > > caused > > > by hardware or my configuration. > > > > Same problem with "ep" drivers: > > - 4x3com579(EISA) in i486DX50 > > - 3.4-STABLE FreeBSD > > - cured "ifconfig down/up" > > I suppose a ethernet problems > > Problems disapear when I disconnect new station with unnamed network > > card > > Do these problems happen during thunderstorms, perchance? > > One of my coworkers recently turned me on to the fact that the > ethernet standard requires that the NICs, and all components of the > network, be properly grounded (no, not just to the box chassis) to be > reliable. Of course, no one really does this, and most of the time > you can get away without it, but sometimes you can't. Could provide a citation for this. I can't find this anywhere in my copy of 802.3. Of course, it's a rather thick document and I could have missed something, but grounding is something that Ethernet was deliberately designed to NOT require. The spec does call for medium grounding for 10Base5 and allows for it (but does not require it) for 10Base2, but that's about it. There is full electrical isolation and transformer coupling of most signals including DC-to-DC converters for power supplies just to make SURE that the external parts of the system (MAU and medium) are floating with respect to one another. (The medium grounding requirement for 10Base5 are safety related and result from the possibility that the terminating equipment on these rather long runs might be connected to different power systems.) The only references to 'earthing' I could find refer to chassis ground and all of the grounding requirements are in parts of the spec not relevant to twisted-pair networks. R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer Energy Sciences Network (ESnet) Ernest O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab) E-mail: oberman@es.net Phone: +1 510 486-8634 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Aug 4 8:47:53 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from moek.pir.net (moek.pir.net [209.192.237.190]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 298F437BB88 for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2000 08:47:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pir@pir.net) Received: from pir by moek.pir.net with local (Exim) id 13Kjgu-00077k-00 for stable@freebsd.org; Fri, 04 Aug 2000 11:47:20 -0400 Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2000 11:47:19 -0400 From: Peter Radcliffe To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Non-PC Laughs Message-ID: <20000804114719.A25218@pir.net> Reply-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Mail-Followup-To: stable@freebsd.org References: <200008041534.LAA73091@misha.privatelabs.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <200008041534.LAA73091@misha.privatelabs.com>; from mi@aldan.algebra.com on Fri, Aug 04, 2000 at 11:34:23AM -0400 X-fish: < X-Copy-On-Listmail: Please do NOT Cc: me on list mail. Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG mi@aldan.algebra.com probably said: > This is the second time this stupid picture is popping up on this list > alone. Some other misguided yet BSD-liking fellow sent it to me > personally about two weeks ago as well. I think, this shames the BSD > camp and should be frowned upon and/or flamed to net.death. Cutely (if On another front, it also breaks the copyright agreement Kirk McK. has on the image of the beastie. Not a good idea. P. -- pir pir@pir.net pir@net.tufts.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Aug 4 8:54:50 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pi.yip.org (yip.org [199.45.111.121]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8640137B850 for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2000 08:54:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from melange@yip.org) Received: from localhost (melange@localhost) by pi.yip.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA82390 for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2000 11:54:33 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from melange@yip.org) Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2000 11:54:33 -0400 (EDT) From: Bob K X-Sender: melange@localhost To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: OT: Re: Non-PC Laughs In-Reply-To: <200008041534.LAA73091@misha.privatelabs.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 4 Aug 2000 mi@aldan.algebra.com wrote: > On 4 Aug, Chris BeHanna wrote: > = (Definitely not for the easily-offended!) > = > = http://www.zbzoom.net/~behanna/takeittux.jpg > = > = :-) > > This is the second time this stupid picture is popping up on this list > alone. Some other misguided yet BSD-liking fellow sent it to me > personally about two weeks ago as well. I think, this shames the BSD > camp and should be frowned upon and/or flamed to net.death. Cutely (if > you find rape to be cute) offensive pictures are NOT why *BSD is better > -- just like no amount of cute penguins should affect one's opinion of > Linux. Personally, I found the picture to be amusing. However, I have a different problem: I follow this list in order to be able to track -STABLE effectively. The list has gone through some major jumps in terms of volume lately, and I generally have to deal with about 50-100 emails a day from other sources. I'm not unique in this situation, I'm sure. So I hate to be the one to ask this (especially since I'm neither the list-owner nor a developer), but can we please stay on-topic here? freebsd-chat exists for this sort of thing. -- Bob "I'm Canadian, and I can't photocopy my ass without the RCMP coming after me." - bigkahuna@scowling.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Aug 4 9:43: 2 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from hpmail.centrum.cz (mail.centrum.cz [194.213.208.72]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C65A37B9A1 for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2000 09:42:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from milan@centrum.cz) Received: by mail.centrum.cz id ; Fri, 4 Aug 2000 18:42:35 +0200 Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2000 18:42:35 +0200 From: To: X-Mailer: Centrum Mail 1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Subject: single user on remote server - possibe solution ? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: <20000804164238Z534543-20463+68@mail.centrum.cz> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG well, i read discussion about topic and i have question if is possible to do this: i have one big server, so can i add one small and cross-connect them with serial cables and then drive big server (in single mode) from small server (to which i'll be connected with ssh) ??? is it possible ? give me some points, please, i have never tried it. thank you milan@centrum.cz Objevujte Internet s http://www.centrum.cz Zalo¾te si svuj mail na http://mail.centrum.cz To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Aug 4 9:46: 4 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pawn.primelocation.net (pawn.primelocation.net [205.161.238.235]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B99037BA09 for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2000 09:46:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cdf.lists@fxp.org) Received: by pawn.primelocation.net (Postfix, from userid 1016) id 6DEBF9B1C; Fri, 4 Aug 2000 12:45:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pawn.primelocation.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FBF5BA11; Fri, 4 Aug 2000 12:45:58 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2000 12:45:58 -0400 (EDT) From: "Chris D. Faulhaber" X-Sender: cdf.lists@pawn.primelocation.net To: milan@centrum.cz Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: single user on remote server - possibe solution ? In-Reply-To: <20000804164238Z534543-20463+68@mail.centrum.cz> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 4 Aug 2000 milan@centrum.cz wrote: > well, > > i read discussion about topic and i have question > if is possible to do this: > > i have one big server, so can i add one small > and cross-connect them with serial cables > and then drive big server (in single mode) > from small server (to which i'll be connected > with ssh) ??? is it possible ? > > give me some points, please, i have never tried it. > http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/serialcomms.html http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/term.html ----- Chris D. Faulhaber - jedgar@fxp.org - jedgar@FreeBSD.org -------------------------------------------------------- FreeBSD: The Power To Serve - http://www.FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Aug 4 9:50:29 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.yourfit.com (28.wxfr1.xdsl.nauticom.net [209.195.150.61]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FB3D37BAFB; Fri, 4 Aug 2000 09:50:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from behanna@zbzoom.net) Received: from armani.yourfit.com (armani.yourfit.com [192.168.1.120]) by mail.yourfit.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA14463; Fri, 4 Aug 2000 12:50:15 -0400 Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2000 12:50:15 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time) From: Chris BeHanna Reply-To: Chris BeHanna To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Non-PC Laughs In-Reply-To: <20000804114719.A25218@pir.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 4 Aug 2000, Peter Radcliffe wrote: > mi@aldan.algebra.com probably said: > > This is the second time this stupid picture is popping up on this list > > alone. Some other misguided yet BSD-liking fellow sent it to me > > personally about two weeks ago as well. I think, this shames the BSD > > camp and should be frowned upon and/or flamed to net.death. Cutely (if > > On another front, it also breaks the copyright agreement Kirk McK. has > on the image of the beastie. Not a good idea. Well, no, it doesn't. Parody is protected speech. Whether or not it tickles your funnybone is another (personal) matter. -- Chris BeHanna Software Engineer (at yourfit.com) behanna@zbzoom.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Aug 4 9:50:29 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.yourfit.com (28.wxfr1.xdsl.nauticom.net [209.195.150.61]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FB3D37BAFB; Fri, 4 Aug 2000 09:50:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from behanna@zbzoom.net) Received: from armani.yourfit.com (armani.yourfit.com [192.168.1.120]) by mail.yourfit.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA14463; Fri, 4 Aug 2000 12:50:15 -0400 Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2000 12:50:15 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time) From: Chris BeHanna Reply-To: Chris BeHanna To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Non-PC Laughs In-Reply-To: <20000804114719.A25218@pir.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 4 Aug 2000, Peter Radcliffe wrote: > mi@aldan.algebra.com probably said: > > This is the second time this stupid picture is popping up on this list > > alone. Some other misguided yet BSD-liking fellow sent it to me > > personally about two weeks ago as well. I think, this shames the BSD > > camp and should be frowned upon and/or flamed to net.death. Cutely (if > > On another front, it also breaks the copyright agreement Kirk McK. has > on the image of the beastie. Not a good idea. Well, no, it doesn't. Parody is protected speech. Whether or not it tickles your funnybone is another (personal) matter. -- Chris BeHanna Software Engineer (at yourfit.com) behanna@zbzoom.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Aug 4 10:58:18 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pau-amma.whistle.com (pau-amma.whistle.com [207.76.205.64]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F4E937B5EB; Fri, 4 Aug 2000 10:58:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dhw@whistle.com) Received: (from dhw@localhost) by pau-amma.whistle.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA46023; Fri, 4 Aug 2000 10:58:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dhw) Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2000 10:58:14 -0700 (PDT) From: David Wolfskill Message-Id: <200008041758.KAA46023@pau-amma.whistle.com> To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: boot0 problem on FreeBSD 4.1-{RELEASE,STABLE} Cc: ambrisko@whistle.com, jhb@freebsd.org, julian@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Sorry I wasn't in a position to test this earlier, but the evidence at hand indicates that the 1024-byte boot0 (as of 4.1-R); boot0.s 1.14.2.2) is failing for the machines we have been deploying for the last couple of weeks for our engineers. (I had deployed all of them so far running 4.0-R; I was testing 4.1-S, since it had been working OK for me on a couple of laptops, and apparently for a couple of these machines, as well.) The machines are IBM Intellistation M Pro Type 6868 with 128 MB RAM; the failure was found on a dual-CPU (P3) 733MHz box. To verify the failure, I loaded 4.1-R from a local mirror of the release (from freebsd.org), specifying that the FreeBSD bootmanager should be installed (in order to be able to select between either of a couple of boot partitions). An attempt to boot the resulting system results in an apparent "hang" (with the status code in the upper right-hand corner of the screen reading "7F", if the "Power On Status" option is selected at the BIOS level). There is no "menu" of boot partitions to select, and the hang appears to require a power-cycle to break. I was able to "un-break" the system (after doing the above) by booting from the 4.1-R floppies, selecting "Fixit", assigning an IP address to the box via ifconfig, using FTP to copy a 512-byte boot0 from another machine's /boot/boot0, then fdisk -B -b ./boot0 ad0 ("./boot0" being the copy of boot0 I had brought over via FTP.) A subsequent re-boot brought up the familiar boot0 partition-selection menu (and selecting F2, for the FreeBSD partition, booted normally). I have motivation to assist in debugging the problem (some 20+ more machines to load). :-} (I have a circumvention available -- involving forcing the use of the old boot0 -- but this isn't a long-term option, by any means.) Please note: this can create a "silent failure" of a rather insidious kind: One might start with a 4.0 system (and thus, the 512-byte boot0), and through various upgrades, be running 4.1-S or even 5.x-C, and all will be Just Fine... until the new boot0 is actually written to sector 0, at which point, you're in a singularly awkward position at next reboot. So: how can I help fix this? Thanks, david -- David Wolfskill dhw@whistle.com UNIX System Administrator voice: 650/577-7158 TIE: 8/499-7158 FAX: 650/372-5915 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Aug 4 11:16:42 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from moek.pir.net (moek.pir.net [209.192.237.190]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A640037BAC4 for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2000 11:16:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pir@pir.net) Received: from pir by moek.pir.net with local (Exim) id 13Km1I-0000A7-00 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Fri, 04 Aug 2000 14:16:32 -0400 Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2000 14:16:31 -0400 From: Peter Radcliffe To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Non-PC Laughs Message-ID: <20000804141631.A28513@pir.net> Reply-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <20000804114719.A25218@pir.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: ; from behanna@zbzoom.net on Fri, Aug 04, 2000 at 12:50:15PM -0400 X-fish: < X-Copy-On-Listmail: Please do NOT Cc: me on list mail. Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Chris BeHanna probably said: > On Fri, 4 Aug 2000, Peter Radcliffe wrote: > > On another front, it also breaks the copyright agreement Kirk McK. has > > on the image of the beastie. Not a good idea. > > Well, no, it doesn't. Parody is protected speech. That doesn't look like parody to me, it looks like the abuse of a copyrighted image. It's not parodying the beastie, it's using it in a given situation. Kirk specificly lists this type of abuse in his copyright page; http://www.mckusick.com/beastie/mainpage/copyright.html > Whether or not it tickles your funnybone is another (personal) > matter. and an irrelevant one. Oh, and please fix your mail program so it either uses the To: or the reply-to: and not both. Your reply to me went to the list twice. P. -- pir pir@pir.net pir@net.tufts.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Aug 4 11:37:23 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from wall.polstra.com (rtrwan160.accessone.com [206.213.115.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24C6237B67C for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2000 11:37:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) Received: from vashon.polstra.com (vashon.polstra.com [206.213.73.13]) by wall.polstra.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA15382; Fri, 4 Aug 2000 11:37:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) From: John Polstra Received: (from jdp@localhost) by vashon.polstra.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id LAA24503; Fri, 4 Aug 2000 11:37:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2000 11:37:10 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200008041837.LAA24503@vashon.polstra.com> To: stable@freebsd.org Reply-To: stable@freebsd.org Cc: robert42@swbell.net Subject: Re: Unable to get IP address of own host during CVSup In-Reply-To: <00080315210102.01468@Praetorian> References: <00080315210102.01468@Praetorian> Organization: Polstra & Co., Seattle, WA Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In article <00080315210102.01468@Praetorian>, Robert L. Bostic wrote: > I am attempting to cvsup over a dial-up connection. I get the > following error message: > > > Praetorian# cvsup stable-supfile Cannot get IP address of my own > > host -- is its hostname correct? > > I know I can't be the first to encounter this problem. How can I > correct this? It means that the hostname which you gave your system (i.e., the output of the "hostname" command) doesn't have a valid DNS entry. You can find more information in the CVSup FAQ, which is at . See question 30 (currently it's 30, anyway) "The CVSup client dies with a segmentation violation when I try to use the GUI." (Yes, I know the question doesn't sound like it applies, but it's basically the same problem.) One easy way to work around this problem is to turn off the GUI with the "-g" option. The next release of CVSup (hopefully available before the summer is over) will try to be more tolerant of botched DNS setups. John -- John Polstra jdp@polstra.com John D. Polstra & Co., Inc. Seattle, Washington USA "Disappointment is a good sign of basic intelligence." -- Chögyam Trungpa To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Aug 4 11:41:37 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gndrsh.dnsmgr.net (GndRsh.dnsmgr.net [198.145.92.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E4CE37BAC9; Fri, 4 Aug 2000 11:41:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net) Received: (from freebsd@localhost) by gndrsh.dnsmgr.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA80077; Fri, 4 Aug 2000 11:40:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd) From: "Rodney W. Grimes" Message-Id: <200008041840.LAA80077@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> Subject: Re: Router "ep2" issue In-Reply-To: <200008041542.e74FgsU32161@ptavv.es.net> from Kevin Oberman at "Aug 4, 2000 08:42:54 am" To: oberman@es.net (Kevin Oberman) Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2000 11:40:18 -0700 (PDT) Cc: behanna@zbzoom.net, arap@oduurl.ru (Alexander), strbenjr@yahoo.com (Ben Hacker Jr), fug-washdc@Sytex.Net (list DC-FBSD), freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG (questions FBSD), freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG (Stable FBSD), bhacker1@csc.com (Ben Hacker Jr) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL54 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > Do these problems happen during thunderstorms, perchance? > > > > One of my coworkers recently turned me on to the fact that the > > ethernet standard requires that the NICs, and all components of the > > network, be properly grounded (no, not just to the box chassis) to be > > reliable. Of course, no one really does this, and most of the time > > you can get away without it, but sometimes you can't. > > Could provide a citation for this. I can't find this anywhere in my > copy of 802.3. Of course, it's a rather thick document and I could > have missed something, but grounding is something that Ethernet was > deliberately designed to NOT require. I don't think you'll find this in 802.3, but perhaps in TIA-565 or TIA-606. The unused pairs in CAT-5 cables should be AC grounded to telco/chassis ground to minimize crosstalk, RFI/EMI and EMP reception/ transmission. If you look on most NIC cards you'll see that the unused pairs are hook through 47pF (or there about) to ground. > The spec does call for medium grounding for 10Base5 and allows for it > (but does not require it) for 10Base2, but that's about it. Anyone running Coax of any real length is a fool not to have it properly gounded. Without the ground it is one big antenna, and in a lightning storm the EMP wave can induce 100's to 1000's of volts on a long piece of ungrounded coax, especially something as large as 10Base5. -- Rod Grimes - KD7CAX @ CN85sl - (RWG25) rgrimes@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Aug 4 11:43:58 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freeway.dcfinc.com (cx74889-a.phnx3.az.home.com [24.1.193.157]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D17B37BB6C; Fri, 4 Aug 2000 11:43:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chad@freeway.dcfinc.com) Received: (from chad@localhost) by freeway.dcfinc.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA24926; Fri, 4 Aug 2000 11:43:48 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from chad) From: "Chad R. Larson" Message-Id: <200008041843.LAA24926@freeway.dcfinc.com> Subject: Re: Irda support In-Reply-To: <20000803235930.A75765@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> from Nik Clayton at "Aug 3, 0 11:59:30 pm" To: nik@FreeBSD.ORG (Nik Clayton) Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2000 11:43:47 -0700 (MST) Cc: hank@yerpso.net, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, j_dot_kasper@www.usa.net Reply-To: chad@DCFinc.com Organization: DCF, Inc. X-O/S: FreeBSD 2.2.8-STABLE X-Unexpected: The Spanish Inquisition X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL40 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG As I recall, Nik Clayton wrote: > There are a bunch of mobile phones out here with built in modems. Point > the phone at the computer and suddenly (in Windows) you've got a modem > attached to COM2 (or whatever) -- again, without needing the additional > cabling. This is a good thing. Of course, this is also the promise of Bluetooth, but with spread-spectrum wireless instead of infared. -crl -- Chad R. Larson (CRL15) 602-953-1392 Brother, can you paradigm? chad@dcfinc.com chad@larsons.org larson1@home.net DCF, Inc. - 14623 North 49th Place, Scottsdale, Arizona 85254-2207 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Aug 4 11:45:19 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pf39.warszawa.sdi.tpnet.pl (pf39.warszawa.sdi.tpnet.pl [213.25.209.39]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80B6137BE0E for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2000 11:45:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from zaks@pf39.warszawa.sdi.tpnet.pl) Received: (from zaks@localhost) by pf39.warszawa.sdi.tpnet.pl (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA02682; Fri, 4 Aug 2000 20:45:03 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from zaks) Content-MD5: 87432dbd25897b2063102fb9bcbaa01f From: Slawek Zak To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: MP3 itches on SB Live Date: 04 Aug 2000 20:45:02 +0200 Message-ID: <87lmycdfwx.fsf@pf39.warszawa.sdi.tpnet.pl> Lines: 25 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.1 (Bryce Canyon) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Did anyone experience problems with MP3 playback on SB Live card? I hear annoying little peaks every second or so when I play MP3 using amp or xmms on 4.1-STABLE and 5.0-CURRENT. % cat /dev/sndstat FreeBSD Audio Driver (newpcm) Aug 3 2000 12:44:30 Installed devices: pcm0: at io 0xd000 irq 9 (4p/3r channels duplex) [The irq is *not* shared] Moreover, I get these messages every time I start MP3 playback: pcm0: dodgy irq: 1000000 pcm0: pci error Can I somehow debug this problem. Is it hardware related? (the card works just fine under Linux and Windows). Thanks for any help. -- hundred-and-one symptoms of being an internet addict: 57. You begin to wonder how on earth your service provider is allowed to call 200 hours per month "unlimited." * Suavek Zak / PGP: finger://zaks@prioris.mini.pw.edu.pl To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Aug 4 12: 9:12 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.denverweb.net (xenu.denverweb.net [199.45.153.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E698137B66D for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2000 12:09:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bm1073@denverweb.net) Received: (qmail 70264 invoked from network); 4 Aug 2000 00:21:43 -0000 Received: from fc-pm5-40.enetis.net (HELO denverweb.net) (208.141.217.103) by xenu.denverweb.net with SMTP; 4 Aug 2000 00:21:43 -0000 Message-ID: <398A003D.E6847E01@denverweb.net> Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2000 23:29:01 +0000 From: "B. K. Minazzi" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.14 i586) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mlxcontrol References: <200008040020.RAA05366@mass.osd.bsdi.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Mike Smith wrote: > > > Hi all > > > > I'm using mylex AcceleRAID 150 and works fine. > > But I don't know how I will know the status of > > each HDD,such as "online","hot spare","NG" etc. > > > > I think `mlxcontrol status' can do this. > > but only show following... > > > > # mlxcontrol status mlxd0 > > mlxcontrol: couldn't get controller/drive for /dev/mlxd0 > > mlxd0: online > > # > > > > Any help would be appreciated. > > Check that you have created /dev/mlx0 as well as the nodes for /dev/mlxd0. Anything on the horizon for checking the status of an Ami Megaraid? Blaine To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Aug 4 13:14:22 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from shepherd.hurlburt.af.mil (shepherd.hurlburt.af.mil [151.166.15.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C27137BA73 for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2000 13:14:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Timothy.Moseley@hurlburt.af.mil) Received: from shepherd.hurlburt.af.mil (root@localhost) by shepherd.hurlburt.af.mil with ESMTP id PAA07062 for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2000 15:14:02 -0500 (CDT) From: Timothy.Moseley@hurlburt.af.mil Received: from exwncc01.hurlburt.af.mil (exwncc01.hurlburt.af.mil [151.166.208.37]) by shepherd.hurlburt.af.mil with ESMTP id PAA07055 for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2000 15:14:02 -0500 (CDT) Received: by exwncc01.hurlburt.af.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Fri, 4 Aug 2000 15:14:10 -0500 Message-ID: <856532CB07BED3118FE300204840E28A589CE7@vexwncc02.hurlburt.af.mil> To: stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: subscribe Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2000 15:13:39 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Aug 4 13:39:23 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mike.dhis.org (hiper1-d54.stk.cwnet.com [209.142.56.54]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3910837B5C4 for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2000 13:39:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mmuir@es.co.nz) Received: from es.co.nz (ogre.lan [192.168.100.1]) by mike.dhis.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CB48D7; Fri, 4 Aug 2000 13:39:04 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <398B29E7.BAB158BC@es.co.nz> Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2000 13:39:03 -0700 From: Mike Muir Reply-To: mmuir@es.co.nz X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.1-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Slawek Zak Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: MP3 itches on SB Live References: <87lmycdfwx.fsf@pf39.warszawa.sdi.tpnet.pl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Slawek Zak wrote: > > Did anyone experience problems with MP3 playback on SB Live card? I > hear annoying little peaks every second or so when I play MP3 using > amp or xmms on 4.1-STABLE and 5.0-CURRENT. > > % cat /dev/sndstat > FreeBSD Audio Driver (newpcm) Aug 3 2000 12:44:30 > Installed devices: > pcm0: at io 0xd000 irq 9 (4p/3r channels duplex) > > [The irq is *not* shared] > > Moreover, I get these messages every time I start MP3 playback: > > pcm0: dodgy irq: 1000000 > pcm0: pci error > > Can I somehow debug this problem. Is it hardware related? (the card > works just fine under Linux and Windows). This is a known problem, and has just cropped up with 4.1-RC at some point.. I'm not aware of any fixes though (how recent is your stable? mine is about a week old so I'm not sure if anything has been done to date.) -mike To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Aug 4 13:43:25 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mike.dhis.org (hiper1-d54.stk.cwnet.com [209.142.56.54]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30BD237B75B for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2000 13:43:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mmuir@es.co.nz) Received: from es.co.nz (ogre.lan [192.168.100.1]) by mike.dhis.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65EF0D7; Fri, 4 Aug 2000 13:43:19 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <398B2AE6.B97943A8@es.co.nz> Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2000 13:43:18 -0700 From: Mike Muir Reply-To: mmuir@es.co.nz X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.1-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "B. K. Minazzi" Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: mlxcontrol References: <200008040020.RAA05366@mass.osd.bsdi.com> <398A003D.E6847E01@denverweb.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "B. K. Minazzi" wrote: > Anything on the horizon for checking the status of an Ami Megaraid? Last time I asked (a few days ago) the required reference material was unavailable. I understand Mike Smith is basically just waiting for AMI to give him what he needs to implement such utils. -mike To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Aug 4 14:13:14 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pf39.warszawa.sdi.tpnet.pl (pf39.warszawa.sdi.tpnet.pl [213.25.209.39]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6EED37B69F for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2000 14:13:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from zaks@pf39.warszawa.sdi.tpnet.pl) Received: (from zaks@localhost) by pf39.warszawa.sdi.tpnet.pl (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA04448; Fri, 4 Aug 2000 23:12:59 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from zaks) Content-MD5: 1fc6c5a3d181bc322e038f7278456726 From: Slawek Zak To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: MP3 itches on SB Live References: <87lmycdfwx.fsf@pf39.warszawa.sdi.tpnet.pl> <398B29E7.BAB158BC@es.co.nz> Date: 04 Aug 2000 23:12:58 +0200 In-Reply-To: Mike Muir's message of "Fri, 04 Aug 2000 13:39:03 -0700" Message-ID: <87bsz8d92d.fsf@pf39.warszawa.sdi.tpnet.pl> Lines: 13 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.1 (Bryce Canyon) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Mike Muir writes: > This is a known problem, and has just cropped up with 4.1-RC at some > point.. I'm not aware of any fixes though (how recent is your > stable? mine is about a week old so I'm not sure if anything has > been done to date.) Mine is 2 days old. Good to hear it's a known problem. Thanks. -- hundred-and-one symptoms of being an internet addict: 18. Your wife drapes a blond wig over your monitor to remind you of what she looks like. * Suavek Zak / PGP: finger://zaks@prioris.mini.pw.edu.pl To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Aug 4 14:40:21 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from jade.chc-chimes.com (jade.chc-chimes.com [216.28.46.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E06637BB59 for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2000 14:40:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from billf@jade.chc-chimes.com) Received: by jade.chc-chimes.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 0EFB81C64; Fri, 4 Aug 2000 17:40:10 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2000 17:40:10 -0400 From: Bill Fumerola To: "B. K. Minazzi" Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mlxcontrol Message-ID: <20000804174009.E58109@jade.chc-chimes.com> References: <200008040020.RAA05366@mass.osd.bsdi.com> <398A003D.E6847E01@denverweb.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <398A003D.E6847E01@denverweb.net>; from bm1073@denverweb.net on Thu, Aug 03, 2000 at 11:29:01PM +0000 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.3-STABLE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Aug 03, 2000 at 11:29:01PM +0000, B. K. Minazzi wrote: > Anything on the horizon for checking the status of an Ami Megaraid? From what I understand, AMI isn't playing nicely with documentation to do that. -- Bill Fumerola - Network Architect, BOFH / Chimes, Inc. billf@chimesnet.com / billf@FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Aug 4 16:36:41 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from wall.polstra.com (rtrwan160.accessone.com [206.213.115.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F73037B8E8 for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2000 16:36:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) Received: from vashon.polstra.com (vashon.polstra.com [206.213.73.13]) by wall.polstra.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA16400; Fri, 4 Aug 2000 16:36:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) From: John Polstra Received: (from jdp@localhost) by vashon.polstra.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id QAA28931; Fri, 4 Aug 2000 16:36:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2000 16:36:10 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200008042336.QAA28931@vashon.polstra.com> To: stable@freebsd.org Cc: jascha@equilibrate.net Subject: Re: Adaptec 2940u2w + 4.1-stable from 2-8 In-Reply-To: <20000803154902.A470@equilibrate.net> References: <20000803154902.A470@equilibrate.net> Organization: Polstra & Co., Seattle, WA Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In article <20000803154902.A470@equilibrate.net>, Jascha Hoogenraad wrote: > > www.p0.s0: fatal write I/O error > scsi0: fatal drive I/O error > vinum: drive scsi0 is down > vinum: mail.p0.s0 is crashed > vinum: mail.p0 is faulty > vinum: mail is down > (da0:ahc0:0:0:0): Synchronize cache failed, status =3D=3D 0x5b, scsi status= > =3D=3D 0x0 > (da0:ahc0:0:0:0): Invalidating pack > www.p0.s0: fatal write I/O error > scsi0: fatal drive I/O error [...] > da0 at ahc0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 > da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-3 device > da0: 80.000MB/s transfers (40.000MHz, offset 31, 16bit), Tagged Queueing En= > abled > da0: 17522MB (35885168 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 2233C) I am not _sure_ this is your problem, but I think it probably is. Some models of Seagate drives have a known firmware bug which causes these symptoms. You should try to get a firmware upgrade from Seagate technical support. Meanwhile, you can work around the problem by disabling the write cache on the drive. Use "camcontrol modepage ..." to do that (see the man page for details). The page you want to edit is page 8, and it's the "WCE" flag that you want to turn off. Caveat: Don't mistake me for a SCSI expert. I got this info from Justin Gibbs and it worked for me. John -- John Polstra jdp@polstra.com John D. Polstra & Co., Inc. Seattle, Washington USA "Disappointment is a good sign of basic intelligence." -- Chögyam Trungpa To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Aug 4 18:45:45 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from topperwein.dyndns.org (acs-24-154-5-187.zoominternet.net [24.154.5.187]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A68B37B81C for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2000 18:45:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from behanna@zbzoom.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by topperwein.zbzoom.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA96826 for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2000 15:48:02 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from behanna@zbzoom.net) Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2000 15:48:02 -0400 (EDT) From: Chris BeHanna Reply-To: behanna@zbzoom.net To: FreeBSD-Stable Subject: Sigh Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I erred in making my off-topic post of the Daemon/Penguin pic to this list. It was an attempt at levity that won't happen again. *PLEASE* no more hate mail. -- Chris BeHanna Software Engineer (at yourfit.com) behanna@zbzoom.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Aug 4 21:16:46 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from tsunami.reflectively.net (tsunami.reflectively.net [216.85.76.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5113C37B8F9 for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2000 21:16:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from raugustine@reflectively.net) Received: (qmail 79952 invoked from network); 5 Aug 2000 04:16:41 -0000 Received: from cc47835-b.chmbl1.ga.home.com (HELO vapor) (@24.5.106.158) by tsunami.reflectively.net with SMTP; 5 Aug 2000 04:16:41 -0000 Message-ID: <005401bffe93$f05df400$0200000a@cm.420.net> From: "Robert Augustine" To: Subject: 4.0-STABLE Box needs to be upgraded to 4.1-STABLE. Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2000 00:16:32 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Disposition-Notification-To: "Robert Augustine" X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, I am receiving these errors when I try to do a 'make depend' inside the /usr/src/sys/compile/TSUNAMI directory. I have made sure to remove the directory and do a new 'config TSUNAMI' from the /usr/src/sys/i386/conf/TSUNAMI directory. Here is an output of my errors. After a somewhat successful make depend it hangs on the below agp_if.c. ===> accf_data @ -> /usr/src/sys machine -> /usr/src/sys/i386/include rm -f .depend mkdep -f .depend -a -nostdinc -D_KERNEL -DKLD_MODULE -I- -I. -I@ -I@/../include -I/ usr/include /usr/src/sys/modules/accf_data/../../netinet/accf_data.c ===> accf_http @ -> /usr/src/sys machine -> /usr/src/sys/i386/include rm -f .depend mkdep -f .depend -a -nostdinc -D_KERNEL -DKLD_MODULE -I- -I. -I@ -I@/../include -I/ usr/include /usr/src/sys/modules/accf_http/../../netinet/accf_http.c ===> agp @ -> /usr/src/sys machine -> /usr/src/sys/i386/include make: don't know how to make agp_if.c. Stop *** Error code 2 Stop in /usr/src/sys/modules. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/sys/compile/TSUNAMI. tsunami:/usr/src/sys/compile/TSUNAMI# Any help would be greatly appreciated as well as different ways to fix this without destroying my current installation. Thanks Again. PS: I have tried without avail to get my Initio ultrawide scsi controller working with FreeBSD. It seems all the diff's are for 3.4, does anyone have any ideas about when this chipset might be supported? It looks like all the framework is out there and would be merely a testing issue to get it working in stable. I would love to volunteer and see if someone can kludge up a working diff. Robert Augustine. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Aug 4 21:33:11 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from 2711.dynacom.net (2711.dynacom.net [206.107.213.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D533837B8F9 for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2000 21:33:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kstewart@urx.com) Received: from urx.com (dsl1-160.dynacom.net [206.159.132.160]) by 2711.dynacom.net (Build 101 8.9.3/NT-8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA00925; Fri, 04 Aug 2000 21:33:03 -0700 Message-ID: <398B98FF.56845166@urx.com> Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2000 21:33:03 -0700 From: Kent Stewart Reply-To: kstewart@urx.com Organization: Dynacom X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.74 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Robert Augustine Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 4.0-STABLE Box needs to be upgraded to 4.1-STABLE. References: <005401bffe93$f05df400$0200000a@cm.420.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Robert Augustine wrote: > > Hello, > I am receiving these errors when I try to do a 'make depend' inside the > /usr/src/sys/compile/TSUNAMI directory. I have made sure to remove the > directory and do a new 'config TSUNAMI' from the > /usr/src/sys/i386/conf/TSUNAMI directory. Here is an output of my errors. > > After a somewhat successful make depend it hangs on the below agp_if.c. Did you read /usr/src/UPDATING before you began all of this. You can't do a config and make depend unless you have done a "make world". Otherwise, you have to follow the Make buildkernel KERNEL=TSUNAMI methodology. Good Luck, Kent > > ===> accf_data > @ -> /usr/src/sys > machine -> /usr/src/sys/i386/include > rm -f .depend > mkdep -f > .depend -a -nostdinc -D_KERNEL -DKLD_MODULE -I- -I. -I@ -I@/../include -I/ > usr/include /usr/src/sys/modules/accf_data/../../netinet/accf_data.c > ===> accf_http > @ -> /usr/src/sys > machine -> /usr/src/sys/i386/include > rm -f .depend > mkdep -f > .depend -a -nostdinc -D_KERNEL -DKLD_MODULE -I- -I. -I@ -I@/../include -I/ > usr/include /usr/src/sys/modules/accf_http/../../netinet/accf_http.c > ===> agp > @ -> /usr/src/sys > machine -> /usr/src/sys/i386/include > make: don't know how to make agp_if.c. Stop > *** Error code 2 > > Stop in /usr/src/sys/modules. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src/sys/compile/TSUNAMI. > tsunami:/usr/src/sys/compile/TSUNAMI# > > Any help would be greatly appreciated as well as different ways to fix this > without destroying my current installation. > > Thanks Again. > > PS: I have tried without avail to get my Initio ultrawide scsi controller > working with FreeBSD. It seems all the diff's are for 3.4, does anyone have > any ideas about when this chipset might be supported? It looks like all the > framework is out there and would be merely a testing issue to get it working > in stable. I would love to volunteer and see if someone can kludge up a > working diff. > > Robert Augustine. > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA mailto:kbstew99@hotmail.com http://kstewart.urx.com/kstewart/index.html FreeBSD News http://daily.daemonnews.org/ Bomber dropping fire retardant in front of Hanford Wild fire. http://kstewart.urx.com/kstewart/bomber.jpg To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Aug 5 1:11:27 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from campbell.cwx.net (Campbell.cwx.net [216.17.176.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4DE137B607 for ; Sat, 5 Aug 2000 01:11:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from allenc@verinet.com) Received: from verinet.com (pragma. [192.168.1.2]) by campbell.cwx.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA00667 for ; Sat, 5 Aug 2000 02:11:16 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from allenc@verinet.com) Message-ID: <398BCC24.3DE06DE8@verinet.com> Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2000 02:11:16 -0600 From: Allen Campbell X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.13 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Kernel bug or bad hardware? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I am experiencing infrequent, spontaneous panics of a 4.0-STABLE machine. The reboots occur while the system is under light load. When the panic occurs the following output is generated by a kernel trap. I have witnessed this on three occasions. On the most recent I bolted to the server and hit PAUSE to preserve the output long enough to copy it verbatim. ad0: WRITE command timeout - resetting ata0: resetting devices .. done ad0: timeout waiting for DRQad-106100774: soft error ECC corrected ad-106100774: timeout waiting for DRQdevstat_end_transaction: HELP!! busy count for (?CA1062206520 is < 0 (-1061721857)! Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode fault virtual address = 0x60 fault code = supervisor read, page not present instruction pointer = 0x8:0xc0173e8c stack pointer = 0x10:0xc0290aec frame pointer = 0x10:0xc0290b1c code segment = base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1 processor eflags = interrupt enabled, resume, IOPL = 0 current process = Idle interrupt mask = bio trap number = 12 panic: page fault syncing disks... At this point the machine boots, fsck runs to clean up the disks and the machine runs normally. On each occasion the output began with: `ad0: WRITE command timeout - resetting'. This makes me think the problem is not related to faulty memory, but possibly a bad IDE disk or a kernel bug. Other than this problem the machine runs perfectly. uname -a: FreeBSD const. 4.0-STABLE FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE #0: Sat Jul 1 21:46:49 MDT 2000 allenc@pragma.:/usr/src/sys/compile/CONST i386 My most recent STABLE update was performed to obtain fixes for the TCP/IP ICMP bugs reported recently. dmesg output: Copyright (c) 1992-2000 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE #0: Sat Jul 1 21:46:49 MDT 2000 allenc@pragma.:/usr/src/sys/compile/CONST Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz CPU: AMD Am5x86 Write-Back (486-class CPU) Origin = "AuthenticAMD" Id = 0x4f4 Stepping = 4 Features=0x1 real memory = 67108864 (65536K bytes) config> di psm0 config> en ed0 config> po ed0 0x300 config> ir ed0 11 config> iom ed0 0xd8000 config> f ed0 0 config> q avail memory = 61964288 (60512K bytes) Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc0326000. Preloaded userconfig_script "/boot/kernel.conf" at 0xc032609c. md0: Malloc disk npx0: on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface pcib0: on motherboard pci0: on pcib0 pci0: at 11.0 irq 10 dc0: <82c169 PNIC 10/100BaseTX> port 0x6000-0x60ff mem 0xf4000000-0xf40000ff irq 12 at device 13.0 on pci0 dc0: Ethernet address: 00:a0:cc:54:e6:b9 miibus0: on dc0 ukphy0: on miibus0 ukphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto ncr0: port 0x6100-0x61ff mem 0xf4001000-0xf40010ff irq 12 at device 15.0 on pci0 ncr0: driver is using old-style compatability shims isa0: on motherboard fdc0: at port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa0 fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0 ata0 at port 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 irq 14 on isa0 ata1 at port 0x170-0x177,0x376 irq 15 on isa0 atkbdc0: at port 0x60,0x64 on isa0 atkbd0: irq 1 on atkbdc0 vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 sc0: on isa0 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x200> sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 on isa0 sio0: type 16550A sio1 at port 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa0 sio1: type 16550A ppc0: at port 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on isa0 ppc0: Generic chipset (NIBBLE-only) in COMPATIBLE mode ppbus0: IEEE1284 device found /NIBBLE/ECP Probing for PnP devices on ppbus0: ppbus0: PJL,MLC,PCL,PCLXL ppi0: on ppbus0 lpt0: on ppbus0 lpt0: Interrupt-driven port plip0: on ppbus0 ed0 at port 0x300-0x31f iomem 0xd8000 irq 11 drq 0 on isa0 ed0: address 00:80:29:67:e0:a3, type NE2000 (16 bit) IP packet filtering initialized, divert enabled, rule-based forwarding disabled, default to deny, logging disabled DUMMYNET initialized (000608) ncp_load: [210-213] IP Filter: initialized. Default = pass all, Logging = disabled IP Filter: v3.3.8 ad0: 6149MB [13328/15/63] at ata0-master using BIOSPIO (null): MODE_SENSE_BIG command timeout - resetting ata1: resetting devices .. done ata1-master: no status, reselecting device (null): read data overrun 29/1 (null): MODE_SENSE_BIG command timeout - resetting ata1: resetting devices .. done ata1-master: no status, reselecting device (null): read data overrun 29/0 acd0: CDROM at ata1-master using BIOSPIO Waiting 15 seconds for SCSI devices to settle sa0 at ncr0 bus 0 target 2 lun 0 sa0: Removable Sequential Access SCSI-2 device sa0: 3.300MB/s transfers cd0 at ncr0 bus 0 target 6 lun 0 cd0: Removable CD-ROM SCSI-2 device cd0: 10.000MB/s transfers (10.000MHz, offset 8) cd0: cd present [320584 x 2048 byte records] Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad0s2a -- Allen Campbell | Lurking at the bottom of the allenc@verinet.com | gravity well, getting old. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Aug 5 4:45: 6 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from tsunami.reflectively.net (tsunami.reflectively.net [216.85.76.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0FEB237B9B4 for ; Sat, 5 Aug 2000 04:45:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from raugustine@reflectively.net) Received: (qmail 18959 invoked from network); 5 Aug 2000 11:45:01 -0000 Received: from cc47835-b.chmbl1.ga.home.com (HELO vapor) (@24.5.106.158) by tsunami.reflectively.net with SMTP; 5 Aug 2000 11:45:01 -0000 Message-ID: <001e01bffed2$9370e560$0200000a@cm.420.net> From: "Robert Augustine" To: Subject: Re: Re: 4.0-STABLE Box needs to be upgraded to 4.1-STABLE / And question on SOFTUPDATES. Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2000 07:44:53 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Disposition-Notification-To: "Robert Augustine" X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, Thanks for all the emails concerning my issue. It seems that after a quick cvsup, and make world, then config , make depend, and make my system is running perfect. All compilation went fine without errors. I know wait on a new 61 gig drive and a scheduled reboot to see how well this actually worked. On a different note I was going to enable softupdates however I can't remember where the readme file was with the 'tunefs' instructions to enable them. Also does anyone have experience with IDE drives and using soft updates, and on what file systems(ie. mounts) it works the best. Thanks Again. -Robert To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Aug 5 5:35:59 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from fdy2.demon.co.uk (fdy2.demon.co.uk [194.222.102.143]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D25F37B992 for ; Sat, 5 Aug 2000 05:35:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rjs@fdy2.demon.co.uk) Received: (from rjs@localhost) by fdy2.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA00696; Sat, 5 Aug 2000 13:33:27 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from rjs) Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2000 13:33:27 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: <200008051233.NAA00696@fdy2.demon.co.uk> From: Robert Swindells To: chad@DCFinc.com Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <200008041843.LAA24926@freeway.dcfinc.com> (chad@DCFinc.com) Subject: Re: Irda support Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Chad R. Larson wrote: >As I recall, Nik Clayton wrote: >> There are a bunch of mobile phones out here with built in modems. Point >> the phone at the computer and suddenly (in Windows) you've got a modem >> attached to COM2 (or whatever) -- again, without needing the additional >> cabling. This is a good thing. >Of course, this is also the promise of Bluetooth, but with >spread-spectrum wireless instead of infared. Bluetooth only gives you 1Mbps, IRDA will do up to 4Mbps. I have found it to be more reliable than IRDA though, and obviously it works over greater distances. The phone manufacturers must have finalized their GPRS phone designs by now. Since Bluetooth won't be usable in time, it would make sense for them to continue to include IRDA. In addition, you can't just hack together your own Bluetooth stack and use it, you need to get it approved which is *very* expensive. This is going to make it hard to produce a usable Open Source stack, since the approval is for the stack/board/antenna combination. I would say that there is still a window of 18-24 months where IRDA support will be useful. After that, I would expect the UTMS phones to become Bluetooth only. Robert Swindells To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Aug 5 5:56:26 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from front001.cluster1.charter.net (24-216-159-200.hsacorp.net [24.216.159.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3FBC37B6BB for ; Sat, 5 Aug 2000 05:56:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from duhring@charter.net) Received: from [24.217.4.31] (HELO dave.uhring.com) by front001.cluster1.charter.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.2.4) with SMTP id 14977721; Sat, 05 Aug 2000 08:56:19 -0400 From: David Uhring To: Allen Campbell , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Kernel bug or bad hardware? Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2000 07:52:49 -0500 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.0.28] Content-Type: text/plain References: <398BCC24.3DE06DE8@verinet.com> In-Reply-To: <398BCC24.3DE06DE8@verinet.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <00080507561800.10028@dave.uhring.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 05 Aug 2000, Allen Campbell wrote: > I am experiencing infrequent, spontaneous panics of a 4.0-STABLE > machine. The reboots occur while the system is under light load. > > When the panic occurs the following output is generated by a kernel > trap. I have witnessed this on three occasions. On the most recent > I bolted to the server and hit PAUSE to preserve the output long > enough to copy it verbatim. > > > ad0: WRITE command timeout - resetting > ata0: resetting devices .. done > ad0: timeout waiting for DRQad-106100774: soft error ECC corrected > ad-106100774: timeout waiting for DRQdevstat_end_transaction: HELP!! > busy count for (?CA1062206520 is < 0 (-1061721857)! > > Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode > fault virtual address = 0x60 > fault code = supervisor read, page not present > instruction pointer = 0x8:0xc0173e8c > stack pointer = 0x10:0xc0290aec > frame pointer = 0x10:0xc0290b1c > code segment = base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b > = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1 > processor eflags = interrupt enabled, resume, IOPL = 0 > current process = Idle > interrupt mask = bio > trap number = 12 > panic: page fault > > syncing disks... > > > At this point the machine boots, fsck runs to clean up the disks and > the machine runs normally. On each occasion the output began with: > `ad0: WRITE command timeout - resetting'. This makes me think the > problem is not related to faulty memory, but possibly a bad IDE disk > or a kernel bug. Other than this problem the machine runs perfectly. > > uname -a: > > FreeBSD const. 4.0-STABLE FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE #0: Sat Jul 1 21:46:49 MDT > 2000 > allenc@pragma.:/usr/src/sys/compile/CONST i386 > > My most recent STABLE update was performed to obtain fixes for the > TCP/IP ICMP bugs reported recently. > > dmesg output: > ------- snip ---------- My system suffered from the same problem, but on more recent cvsupdates the problem disappeared. Now running 4.1-STABLE as of 31 July. Suggest you upgrade. Dave To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Aug 5 6: 5:55 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from sydney.worldwide.lemis.com (sydney.worldwide.lemis.com [192.109.197.167]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B708537B607 for ; Sat, 5 Aug 2000 06:05:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@sydney.worldwide.lemis.com) Received: (from grog@localhost) by sydney.worldwide.lemis.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA31686; Sat, 5 Aug 2000 07:58:07 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from grog) Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2000 07:58:07 +1000 From: Greg Lehey To: Benno Rice Cc: Scott Hazen Mueller , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Irda support Message-ID: <20000805075807.B31658@sydney.worldwide.lemis.com> References: <200008040151.JAA08767@zorba.sf-bay.org> <20000804115924.C3266@netizen.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <20000804115924.C3266@netizen.com.au>; from benno@netizen.com.au on Fri, Aug 04, 2000 at 11:59:24AM +1000 Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B 7B C3 8C 61 CD 54 AF 13 24 52 F8 6D A4 95 EF Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Friday, 4 August 2000 at 11:59:24 +1000, Benno Rice wrote: > On Fri, Aug 04, 2000 at 09:51:09AM +0800, Scott Hazen Mueller wrote: >> [I've been reading via the archive, let's see if I can post without >> subscribing to the actual list...] >> >> First - Benno, you might want to look at >> http://www.posi.net/freebsd/drivers/driver-info.phtml?ID=4 and see if Martin >> is doing anything with his IRDA driver project. Maybe it will save you some >> work, though offhand your two approaches sound different to me. > > I saw that a while back, although I haven't got in contact yet. (Mea culpa) > >> Second - is it worth having? I think the answer to that is if the FreeBSD >> folks want tech types - those folks already running FreeBSD on servers - to be >> able to use F as a replacement for W, then support for things like IRDA are >> good to have. > > I think it's a nice thing to have. I'm writing it because I'd like to be > able to communicate with my Palm, but I could also see possibilities in > other areas. Let me know when you have something to test. Greg -- Finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Aug 5 6: 6: 3 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from sydney.worldwide.lemis.com (sydney.worldwide.lemis.com [192.109.197.167]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF91F37B69E; Sat, 5 Aug 2000 06:05:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@sydney.worldwide.lemis.com) Received: (from grog@localhost) by sydney.worldwide.lemis.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA31676; Sat, 5 Aug 2000 07:57:38 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from grog) Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2000 07:57:38 +1000 From: Greg Lehey To: Nik Clayton Cc: "Henry F. Marquardt" , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org, Jason Kasper Subject: Re: Irda support Message-ID: <20000805075738.A31658@sydney.worldwide.lemis.com> References: <2969.965271549@localhost> <20000803235930.A75765@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <20000803235930.A75765@catkin.nothing-going-on.org>; from nik@FreeBSD.ORG on Thu, Aug 03, 2000 at 11:59:30PM +0100 Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B 7B C3 8C 61 CD 54 AF 13 24 52 F8 6D A4 95 EF Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thursday, 3 August 2000 at 23:59:30 +0100, Nik Clayton wrote: > On Wed, Aug 02, 2000 at 10:18:12PM -0500, Henry F. Marquardt wrote: >> I agree, this is a 'lost' technology, a solution in search of a problem. >> Even the palm crowd doesn't use it much that I've seen - I remember some of >> the early marketing hype there with people swapping IR business cards - I >> don't think I've ever seen anyone do that > > Do it all the time. Not only you. Many people I know, myself included, do this. >> and I don't think I could figure out how in any reasonable amount >> of time with mine - it'd be quicker to scribble on a napkin. > > Being able to sync my Palm pilot with my Vaio using IR would be *very* nice. > One less set of cables to have to carry around with me. Agreed, modulo laptop model. >> Same with my laptop, it was configured as com2 and as far as I was >> concerned just taking up IRQ space - I turned it off when I put >> FBSD on there. Doesn't mean you should play with it, but what are >> you going to *use* it for? > > There are a bunch of mobile phones out here with built in modems. > Point the phone at the computer and suddenly (in Windows) you've got > a modem attached to COM2 (or whatever) -- again, without needing the > additional cabling. This is a good thing. Again, agreed. My mobile phone has this facility, and it's the *only* way I can use the modem. I understand that Linux supports this functionality, and for me it's enough reason to install Linux on the box. Greg -- Finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Aug 5 7:35: 9 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from cgi.sstar.com (cgi.sstar.com [209.205.176.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA5B137B898 for ; Sat, 5 Aug 2000 07:35:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jim@jimking.net) Received: from bluto.jimking.net (bluto.jimking.net [216.54.255.8]) by cgi.sstar.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA01402 for ; Sat, 5 Aug 2000 09:35:00 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from jim@jimking.net) Received: from marble (marble.lgc.com [134.132.228.8]) by bluto.jimking.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id JAA17161 for ; Sat, 5 Aug 2000 09:12:00 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from jim@jimking.net) Message-ID: <01bc01bffee7$245405d0$08e48486@marble> From: "Jim King" To: Subject: 4.1-stable problem Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2000 09:12:00 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I cvsupped last night, and this morning made world and built and installed a new kernel. The box runs for 10-20 minutes and then dies horribly with "kernel trap 12 with interrupts disabled" all over the console. I don't think it's hardware - it ran 4.0-stable for 45 days before I updated this morning. Anbody else notice anything wrong with -stable recently? Jim To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Aug 5 7:45:26 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from absinthe2.dyndns.org (adsl-63-192-100-156.dsl.chic01.pacbell.net [63.192.100.156]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4435337BA55 for ; Sat, 5 Aug 2000 07:45:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fred@absinthe2.dyndns.org) Received: (from fred@localhost) by absinthe2.dyndns.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA35313; Sat, 5 Aug 2000 07:44:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fred) Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2000 07:44:24 -0700 From: Fred Condo To: "Andrew L. Neporada" Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Does anyone succeed on making world from 3.5S to 4.1S ? Message-ID: <20000805074424.J20416@absinthe.condo.chico.ca.us> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.4i In-Reply-To: ; from andrew@Chg.RU on Fri, Aug 04, 2000 at 02:03:07PM +0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, Aug 04, 2000 at 02:03:07PM +0400, Andrew L. Neporada wrote: > -- Andrew. > > On Mon, 31 Jul 2000, jack wrote: > > > Today H . S . YOON wrote: > > > > > Does anyone succeed on making world from 3.5S to 4.1S? > > > > A buildworld of 4.1-RELEASE on a 3.5-RELEASE box worked for me. > > I haven't installed it yet. > > Buildworld (sources approx. 4.1-RC2, system - 3.5-STABLE) worked for me > too, but when I made installworld it fails with Signal 12 in the middle of > process. Subsequent runs of make installworld cause immediate failure > with message obout LC_CTIME!=... (sorry, don't remember details). I'm sure > this is not a hardware issue because it happens on two different boxes > (not overclocked) This happened to me, too, in the midst of a hot upgrade of a production server. It happens because the newly built shell makes a system call that your 3.x kernel lacks. (Signal 12 is unimplemented system call.) I thought I was going to have to upgrade from CD, but after a little thought, I was able to work around this because I *also* had the 3.x sources in /usr/src3 (I was feeling paranoid, and I'm glad). I went into /usr/src3/bin/sh and did a make install -- that restored a good shell. Then it went back to my 4.1 sources and did a make installkernel, did the rest of the steps to install the new kernel as /kernel, and rebooted single-user. I was then able to make installworld. If you do not have the 3.x sources available, you will probably have to boot from a CD and do an upgrade install of 4.0 or 4.1-RELEASE, then re-cvsup, rebuild your world and kernel, and install your kernel before doing your installworld. -- Fred Condo + fred@condo.chico.ca.us This above all -- to thine own self be true. -- Wm. Shakespeare To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Aug 5 8:12:56 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from camus.cybercable.fr (camus.cybercable.fr [212.198.0.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E52A237B9BF for ; Sat, 5 Aug 2000 08:12:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from clefevre@cybercable.fr) Received: (qmail 7385113 invoked from network); 5 Aug 2000 15:12:34 -0000 Received: from r227m167.cybercable.tm.fr (HELO gits.dyndns.org) ([195.132.227.167]) (envelope-sender ) by camus.cybercable.fr (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 5 Aug 2000 15:12:34 -0000 Received: (from root@localhost) by gits.dyndns.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA09935; Sat, 5 Aug 2000 17:12:31 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from clefevre@cybercable.fr) To: "Sergey A. Ivanov" Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: disk partition limits References: <11012672466.20000801121535@pd.chel.ru> X-Face: V|+c;4!|B?E%BE^{E6);aI.[<97Zd*>^#%Y5Cxv;%Y[PT-LW3;A:fRrJ8+^k"e7@+30g0YD0*^^3jgyShN7o?a]C la*Zv'5NA,=963bM%J^o]C In-Reply-To: "Sergey A. Ivanov"'s message of "Tue, 1 Aug 2000 12:15:35 +0500" From: Cyrille Lefevre Reply-To: Cyrille Lefevre Mail-Copies-To: never Date: 05 Aug 2000 17:12:29 +0200 Message-ID: <66pfrbc2.fsf@gits.dyndns.org> Lines: 10 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0807 (Gnus v5.8.7) XEmacs/21.1 (Canyonlands) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Sergey A. Ivanov" writes: > Are there any limits for size/quantity of partitions at freebsd > slice? yes, 8 slices. OpenBSD allow 16 slices. don't know about NetBSD. Cyrille. -- home: mailto:clefevre@citeweb.net work: mailto:Cyrille.Lefevre@edf.fr To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Aug 5 10:36:39 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from alpha.pit.adelphia.net (alpha.pit.adelphia.net [24.48.44.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8261637B6BA for ; Sat, 5 Aug 2000 10:36:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nturki@adelphia.net) Received: from b3s8t6 (pa-indiana1b-27.pit.adelphia.net [24.50.155.27]) by alpha.pit.adelphia.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) with SMTP id NAA23054 for ; Sat, 5 Aug 2000 13:36:33 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <002a01bfff04$0d138b80$1b9b3218@pit.adelphia.net> From: "Nader Turki" To: Subject: ssh Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2000 13:39:04 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG hi there, i just installed fresh FreeBSD 4.1-RELEASE. I enabled ssh and installed rsaref but i can't ssh to the box. It time outs. I did the same with 4.0 and it worked fine. you think upgrading to -STABLE will fix it? Thanks, Nader To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Aug 5 10:42: 8 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.fpsn.net (mail.fpsn.net [63.224.69.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55AD137BA7F for ; Sat, 5 Aug 2000 10:41:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from simon@optinet.com) Received: from sharky (adsl-151-202-97-90.bellatlantic.net [151.202.97.90]) by mail.fpsn.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA36526; Sat, 5 Aug 2000 18:34:56 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from simon@optinet.com) Message-Id: <200008060034.SAA36526@mail.fpsn.net> From: "Simon" To: "freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG" , "Nader Turki" Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2000 13:45:26 -0400 Reply-To: "Simon" X-Mailer: PMMail 2000 Professional (2.10.2010) For Windows 2000 (5.0.2195) In-Reply-To: <002a01bfff04$0d138b80$1b9b3218@pit.adelphia.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: ssh Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Works like a charm here. Are you trying to ssh as root? if so, did you edit sshd_config to allow that? check /var/log/messages to see what the problem is. it will usually log something. -Simon On Sat, 5 Aug 2000 13:39:04 -0400, Nader Turki wrote: >hi there, >i just installed fresh FreeBSD 4.1-RELEASE. I enabled ssh and installed >rsaref but i can't ssh to the box. It time outs. >I did the same with 4.0 and it worked fine. >you think upgrading to -STABLE will fix it? >Thanks, >Nader > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Aug 5 10:46:18 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.fpsn.net (mail.fpsn.net [63.224.69.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A70FA37B6BA for ; Sat, 5 Aug 2000 10:46:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from simon@optinet.com) Received: from sharky (adsl-151-202-97-90.bellatlantic.net [151.202.97.90]) by mail.fpsn.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA36547; Sat, 5 Aug 2000 18:39:11 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from simon@optinet.com) Message-Id: <200008060039.SAA36547@mail.fpsn.net> From: "Simon" To: "freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG" , "Nader Turki" Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2000 13:49:36 -0400 Reply-To: "Simon" X-Mailer: PMMail 2000 Professional (2.10.2010) For Windows 2000 (5.0.2195) In-Reply-To: <200008060034.SAA36526@mail.fpsn.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: ssh Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Forgot to ask you if you created ssh keys that reside in /etc/ssh -Simon On Sat, 05 Aug 2000 13:45:26 -0400, Simon wrote: >Works like a charm here. Are you trying to ssh as root? if so, did you edit sshd_config to allow that? check >/var/log/messages to see what the problem is. it will usually log something. > >-Simon > >On Sat, 5 Aug 2000 13:39:04 -0400, Nader Turki wrote: > >>hi there, >>i just installed fresh FreeBSD 4.1-RELEASE. I enabled ssh and installed >>rsaref but i can't ssh to the box. It time outs. >>I did the same with 4.0 and it worked fine. >>you think upgrading to -STABLE will fix it? >>Thanks, >>Nader >> >> >> >>To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >>with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message >> > > > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Aug 5 10:54:23 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from torn.eau.ee (torn.eau.ee [193.40.25.218]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B180237B6BA for ; Sat, 5 Aug 2000 10:54:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from markko@torn.eau.ee) Received: from localhost (markko@localhost) by torn.eau.ee (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA68606 for ; Sat, 5 Aug 2000 17:54:16 GMT (envelope-from markko@torn.eau.ee) Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2000 17:54:15 +0000 (GMT) From: Markko Merzin To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: full duplex audio on 4.1-S Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Greetings! I noticed that when audio device is opened in read-write mode, then at first its working well, but when device is closed and re-opened, audio driver quits working and those messages apperas on console window: [1] markko@leida:~$ cat /dev/audio # it works, nice echoes and everything :-) ^C # and now it started .. overrun, dumping 2048 bytes overrun, dumping 2048 bytes overrun, dumping 2048 bytes # and so on ... it keeps going until reboot. Fortunately, rest of the machine is working well.. Is this known behavior, did i misconfigured something, is there known workaround or fix? Some info about machine: [2] markko@leida:~$ cat /dev/sndstat FreeBSD Audio Driver (newpcm) Jul 30 2000 16:13:25 Installed devices: pcm0: at io 0x530 irq 5 drq 0:1 (1p/1r channels duplex) From kernel config: ... device pcm device joy ... From dmesg: ... FreeBSD 4.1-STABLE #0: Sat Aug 5 19:04:03 EET 2000 ... pcm0: at port 0x220-0x22f,0x530-0x537,0x388-0x38b,\ 0x330-0x331,0x370-0x371 irq 5 drq 0,1 on isa0 joy0: at port 0x201 on isa0 -- Markko To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Aug 5 11: 2:47 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from chg.ru (netserv1.chg.ru [193.233.46.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3433337BA78 for ; Sat, 5 Aug 2000 11:02:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andrew@netserv1.chg.ru) Received: from localhost (andrew@localhost) by chg.ru (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA81671; Sat, 5 Aug 2000 22:02:15 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from andrew@netserv1.chg.ru) Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2000 22:02:15 +0400 (MSD) From: "Andrew L. Neporada" To: Fred Condo Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Does anyone succeed on making world from 3.5S to 4.1S ? In-Reply-To: <20000805074424.J20416@absinthe.condo.chico.ca.us> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 5 Aug 2000, Fred Condo wrote: > On Fri, Aug 04, 2000 at 02:03:07PM +0400, Andrew L. Neporada wrote: > > -- Andrew. > > > > On Mon, 31 Jul 2000, jack wrote: > > > > > Today H . S . YOON wrote: > > > > > > > Does anyone succeed on making world from 3.5S to 4.1S? > > > > > > A buildworld of 4.1-RELEASE on a 3.5-RELEASE box worked for me. > > > I haven't installed it yet. > > > > Buildworld (sources approx. 4.1-RC2, system - 3.5-STABLE) worked for me > > too, but when I made installworld it fails with Signal 12 in the middle of > > process. Subsequent runs of make installworld cause immediate failure > > with message obout LC_CTIME!=... (sorry, don't remember details). I'm sure > > this is not a hardware issue because it happens on two different boxes > > (not overclocked) > > This happened to me, too, in the midst of a hot upgrade of a > production server. It happens because the newly built shell > makes a system call that your 3.x kernel lacks. (Signal 12 is > unimplemented system call.) > > I thought I was going to have to upgrade from CD, but after a little > thought, I was able to work around this because I *also* had the 3.x > sources in /usr/src3 (I was feeling paranoid, and I'm glad). I went > into /usr/src3/bin/sh and did a make install -- that restored a good > shell. Then it went back to my 4.1 sources and did a make > installkernel, did the rest of the steps to install the new kernel as > /kernel, and rebooted single-user. Hmm, I did not have 3.x sources, so I thought I was going to do a binary upgrade from CD. Fortunately, I succeded in booting with new (4.x) kernel in single user mode. I have installed it *before* doing installworld (as recommended in UPDATING). After that I successfully made installworld. P.S. Thanks anyway for your advise. > > I was then able to make installworld. > > If you do not have the 3.x sources available, you will probably have > to boot from a CD and do an upgrade install of 4.0 or 4.1-RELEASE, > then re-cvsup, rebuild your world and kernel, and install your kernel > before doing your installworld. > > -- > Fred Condo + fred@condo.chico.ca.us > This above all -- to thine own self be true. -- Wm. Shakespeare > --Andrew. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Aug 5 11:45:23 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mailhost01.reflexnet.net (mailhost01.reflexnet.net [64.6.192.82]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35B6737BA98 for ; Sat, 5 Aug 2000 11:45:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hdiwan@hdroam.ssd.loral.com) Received: from hdroam.ssd.loral.com ([64.6.200.67]) by mailhost01.reflexnet.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.197.19); Sat, 5 Aug 2000 11:44:20 -0700 Received: by hdroam.ssd.loral.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 7E2D9124AF2; Fri, 4 Aug 2000 20:17:04 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2000 20:17:04 -0700 From: Hasan Diwan To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: closet homoeroticism in -STABLE?!? Message-ID: <20000804201704.A422@hdroam.ssd.loral.com> Reply-To: hdiwan@pobox.com References: <007f01bffd0d$7195ad20$029b140a@danco> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: ; from mike@adept.org on Wed, Aug 02, 2000 at 11:29:48PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG If your libcrypt is linked to scrypt, you have MD5, else you have DES. * Mike Hoskins [000802 23:36]: > Ahh, that's what he was asking. Yes, DES passwords won't have non > alphanumeric characters in them (I. e. '$'). > > ls /usr/lib/*des* is a good way to check... -- Take care, Hasan Diwan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Aug 5 12:31:19 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mostgraveconcern.com (mostgraveconcern.com [216.82.145.240]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2D2837BABD for ; Sat, 5 Aug 2000 12:31:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dan@mostgraveconcern.com) Received: from danco (danco.mostgraveconcern.com [10.20.155.2]) by mostgraveconcern.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA00325; Sat, 5 Aug 2000 12:31:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dan@mostgraveconcern.com) Message-ID: <018101bfff13$b4fb68e0$029b140a@danco> Reply-To: "Dan O'Connor" From: "Dan O'Connor" To: "Nader Turki" , Subject: Re: ssh Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2000 12:31:08 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >i just installed fresh FreeBSD 4.1-RELEASE. I enabled ssh and installed >rsaref but i can't ssh to the box. It time outs. Take a look at http://www.mostgraveconcern.com/freebsd/sheet.cgi?ssh and see if you left out anything... --Dan -- Dan O'Connor On Matters of Most Grave Concern http://www.mostgraveconcern.com FreeBSD Cheat Sheets http://www.mostgraveconcern.com/freebsd/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Aug 5 13:12:57 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.29]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0047137BA2B for ; Sat, 5 Aug 2000 13:12:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from robert42@swbell.net) Received: from Praetorian ([208.188.21.148]) by mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.2000.01.05.12.18.p9) with SMTP id <0FYU0021Z52A9Y@mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net> for stable@freebsd.org; Sat, 5 Aug 2000 15:03:47 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2000 15:01:38 -0500 From: "Robert L. Bostic" Subject: Belated Swap File insertation To: stable@freebsd.org Message-id: <00080515094500.06960@Praetorian> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.0.28] Content-type: text/plain Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Is it possible to manual insert a swap-file on a sytem already set-up and running? This is of course assuming you have the necessary disk space. Robert Bostic robert42@swbell.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Aug 5 13:22:57 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from burner.sna.com (burner.sna.com [204.119.128.180]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E76A537B51F for ; Sat, 5 Aug 2000 13:22:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jessie@burner.sna.com) Received: (from jessie@localhost) by burner.sna.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA11023 for stable@FreeBSD.org; Sat, 5 Aug 2000 13:16:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jessie) Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2000 13:16:49 -0700 From: Jessie Abernathy To: stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: mailing list.. Message-ID: <20000805131649.A11014@burner.sna.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.0-RELEASE (i686) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG subscribe freebsd-stable subscribe cvs-all To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Aug 5 13:47:48 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from salmon.maths.tcd.ie (salmon.maths.tcd.ie [134.226.81.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0F3A537BA82 for ; Sat, 5 Aug 2000 13:47:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwmalone@maths.tcd.ie) Received: from synge.maths.tcd.ie by salmon.maths.tcd.ie with SMTP id ; 5 Aug 2000 21:47:43 +0100 (BST) Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2000 21:47:42 +0100 From: David Malone To: Nader Turki Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ssh Message-ID: <20000805214742.A29103@synge.maths.tcd.ie> References: <002a01bfff04$0d138b80$1b9b3218@pit.adelphia.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.2i In-Reply-To: <002a01bfff04$0d138b80$1b9b3218@pit.adelphia.net>; from nturki@adelphia.net on Sat, Aug 05, 2000 at 01:39:04PM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, Aug 05, 2000 at 01:39:04PM -0400, Nader Turki wrote: > i just installed fresh FreeBSD 4.1-RELEASE. I enabled ssh and installed > rsaref but i can't ssh to the box. It time outs. Sounds like a misconfiguration. First check that you can ping the box, then check you can telnet to port 22 and then use "ssh -v" to see where it is getting stuck. David. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Aug 5 13:48:50 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from salmon.maths.tcd.ie (salmon.maths.tcd.ie [134.226.81.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0370B37BA82 for ; Sat, 5 Aug 2000 13:48:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwmalone@maths.tcd.ie) Received: from synge.maths.tcd.ie by salmon.maths.tcd.ie with SMTP id ; 5 Aug 2000 21:48:43 +0100 (BST) Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2000 21:48:42 +0100 From: David Malone To: "Robert L. Bostic" Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Belated Swap File insertation Message-ID: <20000805214841.B29103@synge.maths.tcd.ie> References: <00080515094500.06960@Praetorian> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.2i In-Reply-To: <00080515094500.06960@Praetorian>; from robert42@swbell.net on Sat, Aug 05, 2000 at 03:01:38PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, Aug 05, 2000 at 03:01:38PM -0500, Robert L. Bostic wrote: > Is it possible to manual insert a swap-file on a sytem already set-up and > running? This is of course assuming you have the necessary disk space. See the examples in the vnconfig man page. David. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Aug 5 14:14:20 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from lanshark.lanminds.com (lanshark.lanminds.com [208.25.68.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E984037BB9C for ; Sat, 5 Aug 2000 14:14:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dante@lanminds.com) Received: from lanminds.com (hat3.ppp.lmi.net [208.25.88.71]) by lanshark.lanminds.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id OAA17133; Sat, 5 Aug 2000 14:14:14 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <398C2041.DC3DECA1@lanminds.com> Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2000 14:10:09 +0000 From: Dylan Hoffman X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 4.0-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: make.conf empty Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi everyone. I'm trying my first update, from 4.0-Release to 4.1-Stable, so I'm carefully following the steps in the handbook. So, checking /etc/make.conf, I saw it is almost empty, it only has: USA_RESIDENT=NO what, BTW, it is not true. So my question is: where can I find the options to configure the file? (and if a good samaritan can send me a copy of the file so I can copy it, would be great). I'm afraid to miss some important build flags. Just another question: do I need to remake the devices? I have not seen any comment about it on the list, just in the handbook. Thanks, Dylan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Aug 5 14:36:51 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from soup.thpoon.com (cr103675-a.bloor1.on.wave.home.com [24.114.152.71]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1311037B642 for ; Sat, 5 Aug 2000 14:36:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from antipode@thpoon.com) Received: (qmail 96269 invoked from network); 5 Aug 2000 21:36:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO tea.thpoon.com) (mail@192.168.1.2) by cr103675-a.bloor1.on.wave.home.com with SMTP; 5 Aug 2000 21:36:41 -0000 Received: from antipode by tea.thpoon.com with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 13LBcX-0006x9-00 for ; Sat, 05 Aug 2000 17:36:41 -0400 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Default location for `sup' and refuse file From: Arcady Genkin X-Face: 0=A/O5-+sE[Tf%X>rYr?Y5LD4,:^'jaJ!4jC&UR*ZrrK2>^`g22Qeb]!:d;}2YJ|Hq"LHdF OX`jWX|AT-WVFQ(TPhFVak)0nt$aEdlOq=1~D,:\z5QlVOrZ2(H,mKg=Xr|'VlHA="r Organization: thpoon.com Mail-Copies-To: never Date: 05 Aug 2000 17:36:41 -0400 Message-ID: <87hf8zjspi.fsf@tea.thpoon.com> Lines: 14 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0807 (Gnus v5.8.7) XEmacs/21.1 (Carlsbad Caverns) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I just wrote my refuse file. I read refuse.README in /usr/src/share/examples/cvsup, and it implies that the default sup directory is /usr/sup. On my pretty much standard installation (with CVSup's base directory /usr) I didn't have that directory. When I created it and put my refuse file there, id didn't work. Later I found that I have a sup directory under /usr/local/etc/cvsup/. Putting my refuse file there worked just fine. Is that a bug in the README file or is something not standard on my system? -- Arcady Genkin Thanks God I'm still an atheist! -- Luis Bunuel To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Aug 5 14:58:54 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mta03-svc.ntlworld.com (mta03-svc.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.43]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7068137BA90 for ; Sat, 5 Aug 2000 14:58:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mark@ukug.uk.freebsd.org) Received: from parish.my.domain ([62.253.84.161]) by mta03-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.02.27 201-229-119-110) with ESMTP id <20000805215845.DQYO16423.mta03-svc.ntlworld.com@parish.my.domain>; Sat, 5 Aug 2000 22:58:45 +0100 Received: (from mark@localhost) by parish.my.domain (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA03785; Sat, 5 Aug 2000 22:58:49 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mark) Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2000 22:58:49 +0100 From: Mark Ovens To: Dylan Hoffman Cc: "freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: make.conf empty Message-ID: <20000805225849.K254@parish> References: <398C2041.DC3DECA1@lanminds.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <398C2041.DC3DECA1@lanminds.com>; from dante@LanMinds.Com on Sat, Aug 05, 2000 at 02:10:09PM +0000 Organization: Total lack of Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, Aug 05, 2000 at 02:10:09PM +0000, Dylan Hoffman wrote: > > Hi everyone. > > I'm trying my first update, from 4.0-Release to 4.1-Stable, so I'm > carefully following the steps in the handbook. So, checking > /etc/make.conf, I saw it is almost empty, /etc/defaults/make.conf is what you are looking for. As with /etc/defaults/rc.conf, don't edit that file, copy the relevant lines to /etc/make/conf and edit them there (/etc/make.conf doesn't get touched when you build the world). > it only has: > > USA_RESIDENT=NO > > what, BTW, it is not true. I think that is a *safe* default related to the US govt export restrictions and the RSA patent. If you are a US resident you should change this (yes, I know the export restrictions have been lifted, but the RSA patent doesn't expire 'til later this year). > So my question is: where can I find the > options to configure the file? (and if a good samaritan can send me a > copy of the file so I can copy it, would be great). I'm afraid to miss > some important build flags. > > Just another question: do I need to remake the devices? I have not seen > any comment about it on the list, just in the handbook. > > Thanks, > Dylan > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- If I buy a copy of WinDelete, and it doesn't delete Windows, am I entitled to my money back? ________________________________________________________________ 51.44°N FreeBSD - The Power To Serve http://www.freebsd.org 2.057°W My Webpage http://ukug.uk.freebsd.org/~mark mailto:marko@freebsd.org http://www.radan.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Aug 5 15: 2:58 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mta03-svc.ntlworld.com (mta03-svc.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.43]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6D9537BB36 for ; Sat, 5 Aug 2000 15:02:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mark@ukug.uk.freebsd.org) Received: from parish.my.domain ([62.253.84.161]) by mta03-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.02.27 201-229-119-110) with ESMTP id <20000805220251.DRNR16423.mta03-svc.ntlworld.com@parish.my.domain>; Sat, 5 Aug 2000 23:02:51 +0100 Received: (from mark@localhost) by parish.my.domain (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA03813; Sat, 5 Aug 2000 23:02:55 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mark) Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2000 23:02:55 +0100 From: Mark Ovens To: Arcady Genkin Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Default location for `sup' and refuse file Message-ID: <20000805230255.L254@parish> References: <87hf8zjspi.fsf@tea.thpoon.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <87hf8zjspi.fsf@tea.thpoon.com>; from antipode@thpoon.com on Sat, Aug 05, 2000 at 05:36:41PM -0400 Organization: Total lack of Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, Aug 05, 2000 at 05:36:41PM -0400, Arcady Genkin wrote: > I just wrote my refuse file. I read refuse.README in > /usr/src/share/examples/cvsup, and it implies that the default sup > directory is /usr/sup. On my pretty much standard installation (with > CVSup's base directory /usr) I didn't have that directory. When I > created it and put my refuse file there, id didn't work. > > Later I found that I have a sup directory under > /usr/local/etc/cvsup/. Putting my refuse file there worked just fine. > > Is that a bug in the README file or is something not standard on my > system? It depends. If you look at the manpage for cvsup you will see that there are 3 valid locations for refuse files. Where you put it determines the paths you need to add for the entries. I put mine in /usr/sup. This is global so you can put everything in the one file, but putting it in /usr/sup means that you have to path everything relative to base (i.e. /usr). As an example, here is mine which stops cvsup getting non-English docs and ports and all but doc PRs: doc/de* doc/es* doc/fr* doc/ja* doc/nl* doc/ru* doc/zh* www/es* www/fr* www/ja* www/nl* www/ru* www/zh* ports/chinese ports/german ports/japanese ports/korean ports/russian ports/vietnamese gnats/[a-ce-z]* > -- > Arcady Genkin > Thanks God I'm still an atheist! -- Luis Bunuel > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- If I buy a copy of WinDelete, and it doesn't delete Windows, am I entitled to my money back? ________________________________________________________________ 51.44°N FreeBSD - The Power To Serve http://www.freebsd.org 2.057°W My Webpage http://ukug.uk.freebsd.org/~mark mailto:marko@freebsd.org http://www.radan.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Aug 5 15: 7:42 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mta03-svc.ntlworld.com (mta03-svc.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.43]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EA0A37BB36 for ; Sat, 5 Aug 2000 15:07:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mark@ukug.uk.freebsd.org) Received: from parish.my.domain ([62.253.84.161]) by mta03-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.02.27 201-229-119-110) with ESMTP id <20000805220735.DSBD16423.mta03-svc.ntlworld.com@parish.my.domain>; Sat, 5 Aug 2000 23:07:35 +0100 Received: (from mark@localhost) by parish.my.domain (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA03866; Sat, 5 Aug 2000 23:07:39 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mark) Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2000 23:07:39 +0100 From: Mark Ovens To: Dylan Hoffman Cc: "freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: make.conf empty Message-ID: <20000805230739.N254@parish> References: <398C2041.DC3DECA1@lanminds.com> <20000805225849.K254@parish> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20000805225849.K254@parish>; from marko@freebsd.org on Sat, Aug 05, 2000 at 10:58:49PM +0100 Organization: Total lack of Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, Aug 05, 2000 at 10:58:49PM +0100, Mark Ovens wrote: > /etc/defaults/make.conf is what you are looking for. As with > /etc/defaults/rc.conf, don't edit that file, copy the relevant lines > to /etc/make/conf and edit them there (/etc/make.conf doesn't get ^^^^^^^^^ Sorry, typo. That should, of course, be /etc/make.conf -- If I buy a copy of WinDelete, and it doesn't delete Windows, am I entitled to my money back? ________________________________________________________________ 51.44°N FreeBSD - The Power To Serve http://www.freebsd.org 2.057°W My Webpage http://ukug.uk.freebsd.org/~mark mailto:marko@freebsd.org http://www.radan.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Aug 5 15:22:59 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from soup.thpoon.com (cr103675-a.bloor1.on.wave.home.com [24.114.152.71]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C222137BB64 for ; Sat, 5 Aug 2000 15:22:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from antipode@thpoon.com) Received: (qmail 96496 invoked from network); 5 Aug 2000 22:22:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO tea.thpoon.com) (mail@192.168.1.2) by cr103675-a.bloor1.on.wave.home.com with SMTP; 5 Aug 2000 22:22:52 -0000 Received: from antipode by tea.thpoon.com with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 13LCLE-0006ye-00; Sat, 05 Aug 2000 18:22:52 -0400 To: Mark Ovens Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Default location for `sup' and refuse file References: <87hf8zjspi.fsf@tea.thpoon.com> <20000805230255.L254@parish> X-Face: 0=A/O5-+sE[Tf%X>rYr?Y5LD4,:^'jaJ!4jC&UR*ZrrK2>^`g22Qeb]!:d;}2YJ|Hq"LHdF OX`jWX|AT-WVFQ(TPhFVak)0nt$aEdlOq=1~D,:\z5QlVOrZ2(H,mKg=Xr|'VlHA="r Organization: thpoon.com From: Arcady Genkin Date: 05 Aug 2000 18:22:52 -0400 In-Reply-To: Mark Ovens's message of "Sat, 5 Aug 2000 23:02:55 +0100" Message-ID: <87d7jnjqkj.fsf@tea.thpoon.com> Lines: 11 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0807 (Gnus v5.8.7) XEmacs/21.1 (Carlsbad Caverns) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Mark Ovens writes: > It depends. If you look at the manpage for cvsup you will see that > there are 3 valid locations for refuse files. Where you put it > determines the paths you need to add for the entries. Mea culpa! I had "*default base=/usr/local/etc/cvsup". Sorry to have bothered you. -- Arcady Genkin Thanks God I'm still an atheist! -- Luis Bunuel To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Aug 5 15:26: 3 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mailhost01.reflexnet.net (mailhost01.reflexnet.net [64.6.192.82]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF97637BB76 for ; Sat, 5 Aug 2000 15:25:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cjc@184.215.6.64.reflexcom.com) Received: from 184.215.6.64.reflexcom.com ([64.6.215.184]) by mailhost01.reflexnet.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.197.19); Sat, 5 Aug 2000 15:24:54 -0700 Received: (from cjc@localhost) by 184.215.6.64.reflexcom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA41223; Sat, 5 Aug 2000 15:25:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cjc) Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2000 15:25:43 -0700 From: "Crist J . Clark" To: Cyrille Lefevre Cc: "Sergey A. Ivanov" , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: disk partition limits Message-ID: <20000805152543.K66052@184.215.6.64.reflexcom.com> Reply-To: cjclark@alum.mit.edu References: <11012672466.20000801121535@pd.chel.ru> <66pfrbc2.fsf@gits.dyndns.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <66pfrbc2.fsf@gits.dyndns.org>; from clefevre@cybercable.fr on Sat, Aug 05, 2000 at 05:12:29PM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, Aug 05, 2000 at 05:12:29PM +0200, Cyrille Lefevre wrote: > "Sergey A. Ivanov" writes: > > > Are there any limits for size/quantity of partitions at freebsd > > slice? > > yes, 8 slices. OpenBSD allow 16 slices. don't know about NetBSD. ITYM, 8 partitions per slice with 7 usable (the 'c'-parition should not be used for filesystem or swap). -- Crist J. Clark cjclark@alum.mit.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Aug 5 15:34:44 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from palrel3.hp.com (palrel3.hp.com [156.153.255.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA4EC37BB76 for ; Sat, 5 Aug 2000 15:34:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from philippe@le-berre.com) Received: from le-berre.com (pal3narpl01a.corp.hp.com [15.112.21.50]) by palrel3.hp.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E78716A; Sat, 5 Aug 2000 15:34:36 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <398C980E.2F94CCEA@le-berre.com> Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2000 15:41:19 -0700 From: Philippe Le Berre X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.74 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Greg Lehey , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Cc: Benno Rice Subject: apmd -> cannot open /dev/apmctl References: <200008040151.JAA08767@zorba.sf-bay.org> <20000804115924.C3266@netizen.com.au> <20000805075807.B31658@sydney.worldwide.lemis.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, After updgrading to 4.1 (via cvsup, buildworld, buildkernel, and so forth), it appears that the apmd daemon isn't working anymore, it failed to start with: 'cannot open /dev/apmctl no such file or directory. I have checked the /dev/apmctl and /dev/apm are presents. I have tried to recreate these specific nodes with MAKEDEV but that doesn't help... Thanks, -philippe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Aug 5 15:40:14 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from turtle.looksharp.net (cc360882-a.strhg1.mi.home.com [24.2.221.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CD1737BB36 for ; Sat, 5 Aug 2000 15:40:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bandix@looksharp.net) Received: from localhost (bandix@localhost) by turtle.looksharp.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA56574; Sat, 5 Aug 2000 18:39:57 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bandix@looksharp.net) Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2000 18:39:57 -0400 (EDT) From: "Brandon D. Valentine" To: cjclark@alum.mit.edu Cc: Cyrille Lefevre , "Sergey A. Ivanov" , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: disk partition limits In-Reply-To: <20000805152543.K66052@184.215.6.64.reflexcom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 5 Aug 2000, Crist J . Clark wrote: >On Sat, Aug 05, 2000 at 05:12:29PM +0200, Cyrille Lefevre wrote: >> "Sergey A. Ivanov" writes: >> >> > Are there any limits for size/quantity of partitions at freebsd >> > slice? >> >> yes, 8 slices. OpenBSD allow 16 slices. don't know about NetBSD. > >ITYM, 8 partitions per slice with 7 usable (the 'c'-parition should >not be used for filesystem or swap). That is correct, and to answer the above question, NetBSD also uses 8 partitions per slice with the c partition being reserved. As far as I can tell one of the primary reasons for sticking with this scheme is that some platforms have firmware which look for information in 4.2BSD style partition schemes. Brandon D. Valentine -- bandix at looksharp.net | bandix at structbio.vanderbilt.edu "Truth suffers from too much analysis." -- Ancient Fremen Saying To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Aug 5 15:52:52 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mike.dhis.org (hiper1-d100.stk.cwnet.com [209.142.56.100]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0646F37BB96 for ; Sat, 5 Aug 2000 15:52:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mmuir@es.co.nz) Received: from es.co.nz (ogre.lan [192.168.100.1]) by mike.dhis.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21953D7; Sat, 5 Aug 2000 15:52:38 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <398C9AB5.9564FEF9@es.co.nz> Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2000 15:52:37 -0700 From: Mike Muir Reply-To: mmuir@es.co.nz X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.1-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Markko Merzin Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: full duplex audio on 4.1-S References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Markko Merzin wrote: > > Greetings! > > I noticed that when audio device is opened in read-write mode, then at > first its working well, but when device is closed and re-opened, audio > driver quits working and those messages apperas on console window: > > [1] markko@leida:~$ cat /dev/audio > # it works, nice echoes and everything :-) > ^C > # and now it started .. > overrun, dumping 2048 bytes > overrun, dumping 2048 bytes > overrun, dumping 2048 bytes All I can say is that I tried this and recieved the exact same reaction. dmesg: pcm0: port 0xc800-0xc81f irq 18 at device 11.0 on pci0 [ogre] [/] # cat /dev/sndstat FreeBSD Audio Driver (newpcm) Jul 28 2000 15:59:59 Installed devices: pcm0: at io 0xc800 irq 18 (4p/3r channels duplex) -mike To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Aug 5 16:42:30 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from server02.belenus.com (ns2.belenus.com [131.99.17.130]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49E2E37BB95 for ; Sat, 5 Aug 2000 16:42:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from H.Schmalzbauer@belenus.com) Received: by server02.belenus.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Sun, 6 Aug 2000 01:41:08 +0200 Message-ID: From: "Schmalzbauer, Harald" To: "'freebsd-stable@freebsd.org'" Subject: scp problems after updating 4.1-stable Date: Sun, 6 Aug 2000 01:41:07 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hello all, on my fierwall I use a accounting package for IPFilter. Cron scp's the result every 30 minutes to my webserver. Both know the user from NIS, and the keys are doing fine without passphrase. In fact everything worked fine for a month, but since I updated to 4.1-stabel on Friday it doesn't work. When I login as "http" and scp xxx xxx everything is OK. But when I "su http" (like cron does) I get "scp: /usr/bin/scp: cannot execute binary file" The permissions are set correctly. Does anyone have an idea? Greetings, Harry belenus GmbH Harald Schmalzbauer Sys/Net Admin Tel: +49 (89) 21979-120 Fax: +49 (89) 21979-111 www.belenus.com -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP 6.5.2 iQA/AwUBOYyYM1XEptsBus8cEQLc8wCfSbuFZ6u+AAakBZYhVdlu5tG91bcAoJIq zivWk/6of7JU95Nr+Auy9PtE =r1hL -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Aug 5 19: 5:31 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from taz.futurequest.net (taz.futurequest.net [208.243.19.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8B07137B71A for ; Sat, 5 Aug 2000 19:05:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dschaper@ganymeade.com) Received: (qmail 24882 invoked by uid 85); 6 Aug 2000 02:05:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO oem.ganymeade.com) (24.30.180.200) by taz.futurequest.net with SMTP; 6 Aug 2000 02:05:21 -0000 Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20000805190054.00a953c0@mail.ganymeade.com> X-Sender: xganymeade-ganymeade@mail.ganymeade.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2000 19:01:03 -0700 To: stable@freebsd.org From: Dan Schaper Subject: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Aug 5 21: 9: 9 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from accord.grasslake.net (accord.grasslake.net [206.11.249.240]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99D9D37B61D for ; Sat, 5 Aug 2000 21:09:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from swb@grasslake.net) Received: from mobocracy (honda.grasslake.net [192.168.1.1]) by accord.grasslake.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id XAA27374; Sat, 5 Aug 2000 23:10:00 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from swb@grasslake.net) Message-ID: <003501bfff5c$2d7e4fb0$25209fc0@mobocracy> From: "Shawn Barnhart" To: "Nader Turki" , References: <002a01bfff04$0d138b80$1b9b3218@pit.adelphia.net> Subject: Re: ssh Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2000 23:09:53 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nader Turki" | i just installed fresh FreeBSD 4.1-RELEASE. I enabled ssh and installed | rsaref but i can't ssh to the box. It time outs. | I did the same with 4.0 and it worked fine. | you think upgrading to -STABLE will fix it? Do you have your DNS resolver set up properly? I run into this kind of lag when logging in via telnet and my DNS info is wrong (usually a dead link to an outside DNS server). It gets hung up trying to do a lookup on my IP address. EVentually I get a prompt once it gives up on the failed lookup. Try putting the machine you're coming from into the ssh server's hosts file. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message