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Date:      Thu, 22 Feb 2007 15:52:23 +0000
From:      RW <>
Subject:   Re: PF slowing down file copies
Message-ID:  <>
In-Reply-To: <20070222150418.GA3298@kobe.laptop>
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On Thu, 22 Feb 2007 17:04:18 +0200
Giorgos Keramidas <> wrote:

> On 2007-02-22 14:30, RW <> wrote:
> >On Wed, 21 Feb 2007 19:38:39 +0100
> >J65nko <> wrote:
> >> For keeping state on TCP connections you should only create state
> >> on the first packet of the 3 way TCP handshake. Using "flags S/SA"
> >> will ensure this. This will prevent problems with TCP windows
> >> scaling..
> >
> > Why? Creating a state entry causes subsequent packets, in the same
> > tcp connection, to bypass the rules altogether.
> Because a state entry is a rule by itself.  A special 'rule', but
> still a rule.  As such, each state-table entry requires a finite
> amount of resources.  Conserving resources, whenever possible, is a
> good idea.
> Creating 10 packets for a connection whose 'traffic' requires 10 TCP
> segments to be transmitted, and 9000 state entries for a TCP
> connection whose data payload needs 9000 segments to be transmitted
> is kind of silly.  Especially since it is entirely legal and easy to
> do the same thing with only 2 state entries (one for each connection).

The way PF works is that it first checks if there is a state entry
matching the packet's address, port and protocol , if there is the
state entry is used to determine what is done with the packet. Only if
there is no matching entry is the script used instead. As I already
said "Creating a state entry causes subsequent packets, in the same tcp
connection, to bypass the rules altogether".

The point of testing for s/sa is to avoid creating long-lived state
entries for illegal or out-of-sequence packets. The state created by
s/sa has a very short lifetime. This conserves resources and protects
against some DOS attacks.

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