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Date:      Fri, 19 Apr 2002 07:59:33 +0100
From:      Jean-Mark Dupoux <jmdupoux@lineone.net>
To:        John Utz <john@utzweb.net>
Cc:        questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Kernel config parameters for soundcard - 4.4 release
Message-ID:  <3CBFC055.B8D12949@lineone.net>
References:  <Pine.LNX.4.44.0204190120180.12819-100000@jupiter.linuxengine.net>

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Ok, here's the file - I havnt  changed much from generic yet since the
soundcard was pretty much the only sticking point

jmdupoux_@_lineone.net



John Utz wrote:
> 
> On Fri, 19 Apr 2002 jmdupoux@lineone.net wrote:
> 
> > nope, this one doesn't  want to be fixed so soon !
> 
> remarkable. i am stumped.
> 
> could you send your kernel config to the list for review?
> 
> tnx!
> 
> > I tried adding make clean in the run of commands but get the exact same failure at
> > make. I suspected  it would happen, since I already ran  rm -r on the
> > compile/KERNEL directory  with the same intention on a couple of  attempts  to
> > build with  device  pcm  before that, again with no difference in the result
> >
> > what im trying to figure now is whether there is already an attempt to probe the
> > hardware when the compile is running into the problem code, or is this  "just
> > software"  reacting  badly on my machine ?
> >
> > Jean-Mark Dupoux
> > jmdupoux_@_lineone.net
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 18 Apr 2002 at 17:22, John Utz wrote:
> >
> > > On Thu, 18 Apr 2002 jmdupoux@lineone.net wrote:
> > >
> > > > hmmm, I really should have mentioned this in my last mail as it is the
> > > > obvious thing to suggest (how often do we overlook things like that when
> > > > we get too wrapped up in a problem), but I already tried compiling with
> > > > just:
> > > >
> > > > device pcm
> > > > device  sb0 at isa? port 0x220 irq 5 drq 0 flags 0x11
> > > >
> > > > and none of the other devices, but make still falls over with the exact
> > > > same errors. I think I tried more or less every possible combination of
> > > > inclusion/exclusion of the other devices combined with pcm and sb0, but
> > > > nothing ever got past make ( so long as I had pcm and not snd as the
> > > > first device)
> > >
> > > did you do a config, make clean, make depend, then make? once you sucked
> > > in the midi stuff, it's gonna try and build it unless you change the
> > > makefile.
> > >
> > > so, i'd first make sure that i had blown that stuff away. cause there is
> > > know reason why you shouldnt be able to make a kernel.
> > >
> > > > Since you're working on the code for this I'll be more specific about
> > > > the exact card and chipsets involved here as it might be useful for
> > > > reference:
> > >
> > > :-)
> > >
> > > tnx. but lets save it till i have some working code for you to try :-)
> > >
> > >
> > > > Aztech Sound Galaxy pro II (often referred to as Sound Galaxy Washington
> > > > or sometimes Nova) main chipset is AZT2316r and the card also has a
> > > > Crystal 4231a-kl
> > > >
> > > > obviously the card has DOS/Windows drivers, which basically set the card
> > > > up with SB pro emulation, combined with MSS sound system, opl3, joystick
> > > > and midi, all at the "standard"  addresses (software adjustable) I think
> > > > I also tried to install Crystal drivers on the card once in DOS but
> > > > definitely without very good results. Other non-specific DOS programs
> > > > can get audio produced using basic SB-pro settings without the specific
> > > > Aztech driver (eg a DOS general hardware diagnostics utility I use to
> > > > check IRQ's )
> > > >
> > > > From what I can tell the card is not truly plug-n-play, but uses an
> > > > EEPROM chip where the settings get written to when options get changed
> > > > through the driver interface
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I'm not desparate to get this working although it would be very useful,
> > > > but still very confused why the __SGNXPRO__ option doesn't get
> > > > recognised - this is where practical experience from someone else's
> > > > machine might really pay off.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Jean-Mark Dupoux
> > > > jmdupoux_@_lineone.net
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 18 Apr 2002 at 14:55, John Utz wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > midi is utterly unimplemented with the new sound code.
> > > > >
> > > > > so putting the midi devices into the config file will generate the errors
> > > > > you are getting, because the old midi code is based on 'oldbus' for want
> > > > > of a better term, whereas the device structure in 4.X is based on
> > > > > 'newbus'.
> > > > >
> > > > > so that stuff aint gonna compile.
> > > > >
> > > > > i am *actively* working on merging the tanimura code into 4.5-RELEASE. i
> > > > > spend 2+ hours a day on it, 5 days a week ( assuming that i take the bus
> > > > > to work all week, if i drive to work, then i dont work on it that day, eh!
> > > > > :-) ).
> > > > >
> > > > > i've been thinking about making a public announcement that i was going to
> > > > > tackle this, and i'd rather have waited until i had working code ( which
> > > > > i am guessing is 2 months off ), but your mail seemed like a good segue.
> > > > >
> > > > > the patches that tanimura generated in 1999 are pretty big, and so i have
> > > > > been basically wading thru the code trying to understand the
> > > > > relationships.
> > > > >
> > > > > my intent is to turn the midi bits into a kld. that makes it a lot harder
> > > > > in the beginning ( because the code *appears* to be implemented as
> > > > > compiled in only...but i could be mistaken ), but makes development easier
> > > > > in the long run because the build/try cycle is much shorter ( i usually
> > > > > refer to this as 'compile, fiddle, compile'  :-) ).
> > > > >
> > > > > streamlining the process is *very* important to me because i am doing this
> > > > > on an HP 800CT laptop with a p166MMX and 80M of ram. we ain't talkin' big
> > > > > iron here.....
> > > > >
> > > > > so, the good news for you is that the 800CT has an ESS AudioDrive ISA OEM
> > > > > in it, so it too makes use of the sbc bridge. so any work that i do should
> > > > > be immediately available to you.
> > > > >
> > > > > after i get it to work reliably on my laptop, i'll work on the other
> > > > > hardware that i have at home, including my real live mpu-401 card.
> > > > >
> > > > > it's important to note that i make no predictions as to when i will
> > > > > finish or if i will even be successful....midi has a long sad story with
> > > > > freebsd because it's *never* been finished! i've been running freebsd
> > > > > since pre 1.0 and i have seen various bits of midi code thru the years.
> > > > > individuals take up the cause, and then they stop, and are never heard
> > > > > from again! lord knows that i have sent tanimura-san an email or two since
> > > > > 1999 and i have never heard bit0 from him. or her.
> > > > >
> > > > > i *do* get lots of mail that sez 'gee, it would make me really happy if i
> > > > > could use midi with freebsd'.
> > > > >
> > > > > but the code is pretty dense, and FreeBSD kernel-hackery seems to have an
> > > > > awfully steep learning curve, it's certainly kicked *my* ass more than
> > > > > once.
> > > > >
> > > > > as soon as i get something to compile, i'll post to -multimedia. then we
> > > > > can go from there.....
> > > > >
> > > > > have a nice day!
> > > > >
> > > > > johnu
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Thu, 18 Apr 2002, Jean-Mark Dupoux wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > The first thing I tried  was running the compile with  pcm instead of
> > > > > > snd, as per all the docs but then I got  different errors  come up, this
> > > > > > time during the make.  That's the only reason  I compiled with snd
> > > > > > instead.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Specifically, I get a screenful of errors similar to the 2 or 3 lines
> > > > > > i've quoted below, and then the build stops:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > midi_synth.o: In function 'midi_synth_xxxxx':
> > > > > > midi_synth.o(.text+0xNNN): undefined reference to 'synth_devs'
> > > > > > /* (similar error definitions complaining about other midi.synth.o
> > > > > > function calls and undefined  references repeated for several lines)  */
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ending with the line:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > *** Error code 1
> > > > > >
> > > > > > and an abrupt stop to the make.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > But in any case, it wasnt until I had a "successful" build that I
> > > > > > realised no mixer was being  created, so then I went back and tried to
> > > > > > compile with pcm again instead of snd and this time include the line
> > > > > > with options __SGNXPRO__ added for the mixer, but then the build  falls
> > > > > > over when I run /usr/sbin/config MYKERNELFILE with the exact same  error
> > > > > > "Unknown option __SGNXPRO__"
> > > > > >
> > > > > > still cant make sense of this one, all the other documented options
> > > > > > i've  read about for the sb device dont kick up any errors (but they're
> > > > > > not  relevant to my card !)
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > thanks in advance
> > > > > >
> > > > > > John Utz wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > why are you using snd instead of pcm?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > snd is pretty deprecated....
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > i think you will get immediately better results using sbc ( the sb bridge
> > > > > > > driver for pcm ) and pcm
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > man pcm and man sbc can be your new best friends!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Thu, 18 Apr 2002, Jean-Mark Dupoux wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Im having  problems with an option for soundcard  support to put in a
> > > > > > > > kernel config file. To begin with I added the following lines into the
> > > > > > > > config file:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > device snd
> > > > > > > > device sb0 at isa? port 0x220 irq 5 drq 0 flags 0x11
> > > > > > > > device sbmidi0 at isa? port 0x330 irq 9
> > > > > > > > device opl0 at isa? port 0x388
> > > > > > > > device joy0 at isa? port 0x200
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > The kernel compiled properly and successfully loaded the soundblaster
> > > > > > > > pro 3.1  driver. But I still got  no sound out of the card, using cat
> > > > > > > > /filename > /dev/audio or > /dev/dsp  and got the same no  sound
> > > > > > > > result  using play /filename
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > when I checked  cat /dev/sndstat it showed that no mixer was loaded,
> > > > > > > > which seemed like a fair explanation for the silence, so I dug  deeper
> > > > > > > > in man sb(4). This turned up an extra option for the Sound Galaxy pro
> > > > > > > > card that I am using which should specifically add mixer support - the
> > > > > > > > SG card  apparently has a slightly different  mixer from a basic  SB pro
> > > > > > > > which  includes bass/treble adjustment, and I hoped the problem would be
> > > > > > > > solved.
> > > > > > > > So I went ahead and added the suggestion from man sb
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > options __SGNXPRO__
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > into the config file, right after the sound devices  section, but  now
> > > > > > > > the  kernel doesnt compile any more. After running
> > > > > > > > ln -s /usr/local/kernels/MYKERNELFILE
> > > > > > > > I then enter as usual:
> > > > > > > > /usr/sbin/config MYKERNELFILE
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > but that's  as far as the process gets. The output on the screen is:
> > > > > > > > Error
> > > > > > > > Unknown option  __SGNXPRO__ (line xxx)
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I've  checked and double-checked the relevant  documentation and im sure
> > > > > > > > I havnt made a typo or syntax error.
> > > > > > > > What's more that specific  option seems  to have been present going back
> > > > > > > > quite  a few releases, so I'm truly puzzled why config  wont  accept it
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Has anyone else  got experience with this kind of card, or with
> > > > > > > > options  parameters for soundcards generally, or should I be thinking
> > > > > > > > about reporting this to bugs ?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > thanks in advance
> > > > > > > > Jean-Mark Dupoux
> > > > > > > > jmdupoux_@_lineone.net
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org
> > > > > > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > John L. Utz III
> > > > > > > john@utzweb.net
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Idiocy is the Impulse Function in the Convolution of Life
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > >
> > > > > John L. Utz III
> > > > > john@utzweb.net
> > > > >
> > > > > Idiocy is the Impulse Function in the Convolution of Life
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > > John L. Utz III
> > > john@utzweb.net
> > >
> > > Idiocy is the Impulse Function in the Convolution of Life
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org
> > with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message
> >
> 
> --
> 
> John L. Utz III
> john@utzweb.net
> 
> Idiocy is the Impulse Function in the Convolution of Life
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#
# GENERIC -- Generic kernel configuration file for FreeBSD/i386
#
# For more information on this file, please read the handbook section on
# Kernel Configuration Files:
#
#    http://www.FreeBSD.org/handbook/kernelconfig-config.html
#
# The handbook is also available locally in /usr/share/doc/handbook
# if you've installed the doc distribution, otherwise always see the
# FreeBSD World Wide Web server (http://www.FreeBSD.org/) for the
# latest information.
#
# An exhaustive list of options and more detailed explanations of the
# device lines is also present in the ./LINT configuration file. If you are
# in doubt as to the purpose or necessity of a line, check first in LINT.
#
# $FreeBSD: src/sys/i386/conf/GENERIC,v 1.246.2.34 2001/08/12 13:13:46 joerg Exp $

machine		i386
#cpu		I386_CPU
cpu		I486_CPU
#cpu		I586_CPU
#cpu		I686_CPU
ident		JM5X86
maxusers	8

#makeoptions	DEBUG=-g		#Build kernel with gdb(1) debug symbols

#options 	MATH_EMULATE		#Support for x87 emulation
options 	INET			#InterNETworking
options 	INET6			#IPv6 communications protocols
options 	FFS			#Berkeley Fast Filesystem
options 	FFS_ROOT		#FFS usable as root device [keep this!]
options 	SOFTUPDATES		#Enable FFS soft updates support
options 	MFS			#Memory Filesystem
options 	MD_ROOT			#MD is a potential root device
#options 	NFS			#Network Filesystem
#options 	NFS_ROOT		#NFS usable as root device, NFS required
options 	MSDOSFS			#MSDOS Filesystem
options 	CD9660			#ISO 9660 Filesystem
options 	CD9660_ROOT		#CD-ROM usable as root, CD9660 required
options 	PROCFS			#Process filesystem
options 	COMPAT_43		#Compatible with BSD 4.3 [KEEP THIS!]
options 	SCSI_DELAY=6000	#Delay (in ms) before probing SCSI
options 	UCONSOLE		#Allow users to grab the console
options 	USERCONFIG		#boot -c editor
options 	VISUAL_USERCONFIG	#visual boot -c editor
options 	KTRACE			#ktrace(1) support
options 	SYSVSHM			#SYSV-style shared memory
options 	SYSVMSG			#SYSV-style message queues
options 	SYSVSEM			#SYSV-style semaphores
options 	P1003_1B		#Posix P1003_1B real-time extensions
options 	_KPOSIX_PRIORITY_SCHEDULING
options		ICMP_BANDLIM		#Rate limit bad replies
options 	KBD_INSTALL_CDEV	# install a CDEV entry in /dev

# To make an SMP kernel, the next two are needed
#options 	SMP			# Symmetric MultiProcessor Kernel
#options 	APIC_IO			# Symmetric (APIC) I/O

device		isa
#device		eisa
device		pci

# Floppy drives
device		fdc0	at isa? port IO_FD1 irq 6 drq 2
device		fd0	at fdc0 drive 0
#device		fd1	at fdc0 drive 1
#
# If you have a Toshiba Libretto with its Y-E Data PCMCIA floppy,
# don't use the above line for fdc0 but the following one:
#device		fdc0

# ATA and ATAPI devices
device		ata0	at isa? port IO_WD1 irq 14
#device		ata1	at isa? port IO_WD2 irq 15
device		ata
device		atadisk			# ATA disk drives
device		atapicd			# ATAPI CDROM drives
#device		atapifd			# ATAPI floppy drives
#device		atapist			# ATAPI tape drives
options 	ATA_STATIC_ID		#Static device numbering

# SCSI Controllers
#device		ahb		# EISA AHA1742 family
#device		ahc		# AHA2940 and onboard AIC7xxx devices
#device		amd		# AMD 53C974 (Tekram DC-390(T))
#device		isp		# Qlogic family
#device		ncr		# NCR/Symbios Logic
#device		sym		# NCR/Symbios Logic (newer chipsets)
#options		SYM_SETUP_LP_PROBE_MAP=0x40
				# Allow ncr to attach legacy NCR devices when 
				# both sym and ncr are configured

device		adv0	at isa?
#device		adw
#device		bt0	at isa?
#device		aha0	at isa?
#device		aic0	at isa?

#device		ncv		# NCR 53C500
#device		nsp		# Workbit Ninja SCSI-3
#device		stg		# TMC 18C30/18C50

# SCSI peripherals
device		scbus		# SCSI bus (required)
device		da		# Direct Access (disks)
device		sa		# Sequential Access (tape etc)
device		cd		# CD
device		pass		# Passthrough device (direct SCSI access)

# RAID controllers interfaced to the SCSI subsystem
#device		asr		# DPT SmartRAID V, VI and Adaptec SCSI RAID
#device		dpt		# DPT Smartcache - See LINT for options!
#device		mly		# Mylex AcceleRAID/eXtremeRAID

# RAID controllers
#device		aac		# Adaptec FSA RAID, Dell PERC2/PERC3
#device		ida		# Compaq Smart RAID
#device		amr		# AMI MegaRAID
#device		mlx		# Mylex DAC960 family
#device		twe		# 3ware Escalade

# atkbdc0 controls both the keyboard and the PS/2 mouse
device		atkbdc0	at isa? port IO_KBD
device		atkbd0	at atkbdc? irq 1 flags 0x1
#device		psm0	at atkbdc? irq 12

device		vga0	at isa?

# splash screen/screen saver
pseudo-device	splash

# syscons is the default console driver, resembling an SCO console
device		sc0	at isa? flags 0x100

# Enable this and PCVT_FREEBSD for pcvt vt220 compatible console driver
#device		vt0	at isa?
#options 	XSERVER			# support for X server on a vt console
#options 	FAT_CURSOR		# start with block cursor
# If you have a ThinkPAD, uncomment this along with the rest of the PCVT lines
#options 	PCVT_SCANSET=2		# IBM keyboards are non-std

# Floating point support - do not disable.
device		npx0	at nexus? port IO_NPX irq 13

# Power management support (see LINT for more options)
device		apm0    at nexus? disable flags 0x20 # Advanced Power Management

# PCCARD (PCMCIA) support
#device		card
#device		pcic0	at isa? irq 0 port 0x3e0 iomem 0xd0000
#device		pcic1	at isa? irq 0 port 0x3e2 iomem 0xd4000 disable

# Serial (COM) ports
#device		sio0	at isa? port IO_COM1 flags 0x10 irq 4
device		sio1	at isa? port IO_COM2 irq 3
#device		sio2	at isa? disable port IO_COM3 irq 5
#device		sio3	at isa? disable port IO_COM4 irq 9

# Parallel port
device		ppc0	at isa? irq 7
device		ppbus		# Parallel port bus (required)
device		lpt		# Printer
device		plip		# TCP/IP over parallel
device		ppi		# Parallel port interface device
#device		vpo		# Requires scbus and da


# PCI Ethernet NICs.
device		de		# DEC/Intel DC21x4x (``Tulip'')
#device		txp		# 3Com 3cR990 (``Typhoon'')
#device		vx		# 3Com 3c590, 3c595 (``Vortex'')

# PCI Ethernet NICs that use the common MII bus controller code.
# NOTE: Be sure to keep the 'device miibus' line in order to use these NICs!
device		miibus		# MII bus support
#device		dc		# DEC/Intel 21143 and various workalikes
#device		fxp		# Intel EtherExpress PRO/100B (82557, 82558)
#device		pcn		# AMD Am79C97x PCI 10/100 NICs
#device		rl		# RealTek 8129/8139
#device		sf		# Adaptec AIC-6915 (``Starfire'')
#device		sis		# Silicon Integrated Systems SiS 900/SiS 7016
#device		ste		# Sundance ST201 (D-Link DFE-550TX)
#device		tl		# Texas Instruments ThunderLAN
#device		tx		# SMC EtherPower II (83c170 ``EPIC'')
#device		vr		# VIA Rhine, Rhine II
#device		wb		# Winbond W89C840F
#device		wx		# Intel Gigabit Ethernet Card (``Wiseman'')
#device		xl		# 3Com 3c90x (``Boomerang'', ``Cyclone'')


# ISA Ethernet NICs.
# 'device ed' requires 'device miibus'
device		ed0	at isa? port 0x300 irq 15  iomem 0xC8000
#device		ex
#device		ep
#device		fe0	at isa? port 0x300
# Xircom Ethernet
#device		xe
# PRISM I IEEE 802.11b wireless NIC.
#device		awi
# WaveLAN/IEEE 802.11 wireless NICs. Note: the WaveLAN/IEEE really
# exists only as a PCMCIA device, so there is no ISA attachment needed
# and resources will always be dynamically assigned by the pccard code.
#device		wi
# Aironet 4500/4800 802.11 wireless NICs. Note: the declaration below will
# work for PCMCIA and PCI cards, as well as ISA cards set to ISA PnP
# mode (the factory default). If you set the switches on your ISA
# card for a manually chosen I/O address and IRQ, you must specify
# those parameters here.
#device		an
# The probe order of these is presently determined by i386/isa/isa_compat.c.
#device		ie0	at isa? port 0x300 irq 10 iomem 0xd0000
#device		le0	at isa? port 0x300 irq 5 iomem 0xd0000
#device		lnc0	at isa? port 0x280 irq 10 drq 0
#device		cs0	at isa? port 0x300
#device		sn0	at isa? port 0x300 irq 10

# Pseudo devices - the number indicates how many units to allocate.
pseudo-device	loop		# Network loopback
pseudo-device	ether		# Ethernet support
pseudo-device	sl	1	# Kernel SLIP
pseudo-device	ppp	1	# Kernel PPP
pseudo-device	tun		# Packet tunnel.
pseudo-device	pty		# Pseudo-ttys (telnet etc)
pseudo-device	md		# Memory "disks"
pseudo-device	gif		# IPv6 and IPv4 tunneling
pseudo-device	faith	1	# IPv6-to-IPv4 relaying (translation)

# The `bpf' pseudo-device enables the Berkeley Packet Filter.
# Be aware of the administrative consequences of enabling this!
pseudo-device	bpf		#Berkeley packet filter

# Multimedia support
# Sound card - aztech audio galaxy pro II cs4231

device pcm
device sb0 at isa? port  0x220 irq 5  drq 0 flags 0x11


# commented  trash ....
# device snd0
# device sbmidi0 at isa? port 0x330 irq 9 
# device mss0 at isa? port 0x530 irq 7 drq 5
# flags 0x11
# device sbmidi0 at isa? port 0x330 irq 9
# device opl0 at isa? port 0x388
# device joy0 at isa? port 0x200
# options CONFIG_SBPRO
# options __SGNXPRO__


# USB support
device		uhci		# UHCI PCI->USB interface
device		ohci		# OHCI PCI->USB interface
device		usb		# USB Bus (required)
device		ugen		# Generic
device		uhid		# "Human Interface Devices"
device		ukbd		# Keyboard
device		ulpt		# Printer
device		umass		# Disks/Mass storage - Requires scbus and da
device		ums		# Mouse
device		uscanner	# Scanners
# USB Ethernet, requires mii
#device		aue		# ADMtek USB ethernet
#device		cue		# CATC USB ethernet
#device		kue		# Kawasaki LSI USB ethernet

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