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Date:      Wed, 14 Sep 2016 13:57:38 -0700
From:      Bryan Drewery <bdrewery@FreeBSD.org>
To:        Adam Weinberger <adamw@adamw.org>, Antoine Brodin <antoine@FreeBSD.org>
Cc:        ports-committers@freebsd.org, svn-ports-all@freebsd.org, svn-ports-head@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: svn commit: r422160 - in head: chinese/fortune french/fortune-mod-zarathoustra misc/fortune-mod-bible misc/fortune-mod-bofh misc/fortune-mod-culmea-culmilor misc/fortune-mod-epictetus misc/fortune-...
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From: Bryan Drewery <bdrewery@FreeBSD.org>
To: Adam Weinberger <adamw@adamw.org>, Antoine Brodin <antoine@FreeBSD.org>
Cc: ports-committers@freebsd.org, svn-ports-all@freebsd.org,
 svn-ports-head@freebsd.org
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Subject: Re: svn commit: r422160 - in head: chinese/fortune
 french/fortune-mod-zarathoustra misc/fortune-mod-bible misc/fortune-mod-bofh
 misc/fortune-mod-culmea-culmilor misc/fortune-mod-epictetus misc/fortune-...
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 <857FD0DF-6ADA-48F5-B02B-81BCA7135E2C@adamw.org>
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On 9/14/16 1:45 PM, Adam Weinberger wrote:
>> On 14 Sep, 2016, at 13:50, Antoine Brodin <antoine@FreeBSD.org> wrote:=

>>
>> Author: antoine
>> Date: Wed Sep 14 19:50:46 2016
>> New Revision: 422160
>> URL: https://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/ports/422160
>>
>> Log:
>>  Revert recent strfile changes, strfile is already in base
>>
>>  With hat:	portmgr
>=20
> John's changes did have merit---not everybody has the games distributio=
n
> installed.
>=20

You could say this about every option in base.  That does not justify
adding everything in base into the ports tree again.  It means the user
should enable that option in base if they want that functionality.  We
really do not need 2 versions of strfile, which has gone unchanged for a
long time.

Optional pieces of base being in ports make sense when they are getting
frequent updates, such as Kerberos or OpenSSL or OpenSSH.

If a user wants these game ports, they would want the game distribution
in base as well, so they should already have strfile.

The truth here seems to be closer to that this is just for DragonFly.

My large vision is that we move a lot of base into "ports"/packages (not
what we have today).  In that case we would have just 1 version of
OpenSSL, fortune, strfile, etc.  In that world we move/merge most of
base with their port versions.  We're not anywhere near that today.

Now, removing the games from base entirely and moving them to ports is a
different discussion.  I personally am open to that, but not duplicating
everything for the sake of non-default setups without frequent updates.

> Perhaps a Uses/strfile.mk would be better here? It could allow for
> /usr/bin/strfile or /usr/games/strfile if they exist, or depend on the =
strfile port otherwise. Best of both world and everybody wins.
>=20


--=20
Regards,
Bryan Drewery


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