Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 08:27:53 +0930 From: Greg Lehey <grog@lemis.com> To: Greg Black <gjb@comkey.com.au> Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG, FreeBSD Hackers <hackers@FreeBSD.ORG> Subject: Re: Debug kernel by default (was: System size with -g) Message-ID: <19990406082753.U2142@lemis.com> In-Reply-To: <19990405012545.727.qmail@alpha.comkey.com.au>; from Greg Black on Mon, Apr 05, 1999 at 11:25:44AM %2B1000 References: <19990331003535.E17547@futuresouth.com> <19990331165139.W413@lemis.com> <19990405012545.727.qmail@alpha.comkey.com.au>
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On Monday, 5 April 1999 at 11:25:44 +1000, Greg Black wrote: > Greg Lehey writes: > >> Interestingly enough, we are currently discussing this in -hackers. >> We're thinking about changing the way the kernel is built so that a >> debug kernel will be the default. > > I think this is a terrible idea, except possibly for -current. > I run a lot of FreeBSD machines, all of them -release (though > some might move to -stable if needed). They never crash and I > expect they never will, so debug kernels are just a waste of > resources as far as I'm concerned. I'm sure this applies to > lots of people who run production machines. That's the whole problem. Then you get a mystery crash which is never repeated, and because you don't have a debug kernel you can't analyse it. > At the very least, the decision to build a debug kernel should > be up to the installer Yes, we never disputed this. > and should default to non-debug. So far, you're the only person to voice this opinion. > After all, those people who might do anything with a debug kernel > can easily read the instructions on building/installing such a thing > and those people who just want to use FreeBSD won't be burdened with > the extra compilation time, disk space, memory waste during normal > operation, etc., associated with a debug kernel. I don't think you've read my proposition properly. You certainly haven't replied to the points I raised. Greg -- See complete headers for address, home page and phone numbers finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
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