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Date:      Fri, 20 Feb 2004 21:47:03 -0000 (GMT)
From:      "Thomas Beer" <b@analogon.com>
To:        "Matthew Seaman" <m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk>
Cc:        meimi <meimi_1@hotmail.com>
Subject:   Re: Removing system user
Message-ID:  <3545.217.235.127.4.1077313623.squirrel@webmail.pair.com>
In-Reply-To: <20040220170622.GD4997@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk>
References:  <LAW11-OE45jMKtWNymW0000323c@hotmail.com> <20040220170622.GD4997@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk>

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I would not delete them. A normal user, e.g., has to
be member of the group staff to su to root, etc.

Cheers Tom

> On Fri, Feb 20, 2004 at 11:51:03PM +0800, meimi wrote:
>
>>   I have read some document about server hardening. It suggests me
>> removing
>> the following users:
>> operator, games, news, uucp
>> and following groups:
>> operator, staff
>>   I can guess that games is used for playing and news is used for
>> reading
>> news in news group. How about the other? Their descriptions in passwd
>> are
>> not clear.
>>   Am I safe to remove them in normal server environment (web, mail, ftp,
>> DNS, SSH)?
>
> You can certainly remove those users and groups, but it's unlikely to
> gain you very much and quite likely to cause you some problems.  It
> will certainly make it harder for you to do routine updates on your
> system, possibly including some security patches.
>
> So long as you don't alter the entries in the master.passwd and group
> files for those entities, you're pretty safe.  Those IDs exist mostly
> to be the owners of various files: note that the shell has been set to
> /sbin/nologin and the password for those accounts has been locked and
> that they have no special privileges despite the low UID and GID
> numbers -- as such they are rather less dangerous than the account you
> use to log in via.
>
> All in all, I wouldn't bother touching those accounts.
>
> 	Cheers,
>
> 	Matthew
>
> --
> Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil.                       26 The Paddocks
>                                                       Savill Way
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