From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 25 09:23:54 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 172CA1065678; Wed, 25 Jun 2008 09:23:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jrhett@netconsonance.com) Received: from mail.netconsonance.com (mail.netconsonance.com [198.207.204.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08F428FC1E; Wed, 25 Jun 2008 09:23:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jrhett@netconsonance.com) Received: from [172.16.12.8] (covad-jrhett.meer.net [209.157.140.144]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.netconsonance.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m5P9NnNI049720; Wed, 25 Jun 2008 02:23:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jrhett@netconsonance.com) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at netconsonance.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.427 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.427 tagged_above=-999 required=3.5 tests=[ALL_TRUSTED=-1.44, AWL=-1.987] Message-Id: From: Jo Rhett To: John Baldwin In-Reply-To: <200806231051.03685.jhb@freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v924) Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 02:23:48 -0700 References: <3cc535c80806080449q3ec6e623v8603e9eccc3ab1f2@mail.gmail.com> <200806231051.03685.jhb@freebsd.org> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.924) Cc: FreeBSD Stable Subject: tracking -stable in the enterprise X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 09:23:54 -0000 On Jun 23, 2008, at 7:51 AM, John Baldwin wrote: > FWIW, Yahoo! tracks -stable branches, not point releases. I'm curious about this (and stealing the dead thread). How does one track -stable in an enterprise environment? I assume that what you mean is "we pick points in -stable that we believe are stable enough and create a snapshot from this point that we test and roll out to production" ...? Am I wrong? I mean, I guess Yahoo has enough resources to literally run every commit to -stable through a full test cycle and push it out to every machine, but my mind boggles to imagine the manpower cost of doing so. (and to justify the manpower cost versus the gain from doing so...) -- Jo Rhett Net Consonance : consonant endings by net philanthropy, open source and other randomness