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Date:      Sat, 15 Mar 2003 11:49:48 -0800 (PST)
From:      "W. J. Williams" <will@willardjwilliams.com>
To:        Bill Moran <wmoran@potentialtech.com>, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: five networks
Message-ID:  <20030315194948.99778.qmail@web13506.mail.yahoo.com>
In-Reply-To: <3E7382B0.9040102@potentialtech.com>

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I took offense to your beginning of what I understand and don't
understand.  I apologize for not having thicker skin.

Still learning and will get there.  Thanx for your help, and I will use
your notes to get there from here (I hope anyway).


--- Bill Moran <wmoran@potentialtech.com> wrote:
> W. J. Williams wrote:
> > Bill Moran,
> > 
> > New people to this stuff are very fortunate to have people like you
> lend
> > their expertise...especially to point out what we do and don't
> > understand...the rest of you newbies out there, this guy is aces.
> > 
> > Bill, please learn not to slam, but to help.
> 
> Huh?
> I spent a considerable amount of time crafting that reply.  If it didn't
> help, I apoligize.
> 
> > 
> > Will
> > 
> > --- Bill Moran <wmoran@potentialtech.com> wrote:
> > 
> >>W. J. Williams wrote:
> >>
> >>>why isn`t this working:
> >>>
> >>>1. I would like to configure a separate network on five freebsd
> boxes.
> >>>
> >>>192.168.0
> >>>192.168.1
> >>>192.168.2
> >>>192.168.3
> >>>192.168.4
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>2.  My DSL router has network 192.168.0, I also have one of my fbsd
> >>
> >>boxes
> >>
> >>>in this network (192.168.0.2)
> >>>
> >>>3.  I can add the other machines to the 192.168.0 network, no
> problem,
> >>>using default router 192.168.0.1, broadcast 255.255.255.0,
> >>>
> >>>4.  I tried to configure 192.168.2.1 on one box, using
> >>>gateway_enable="YES", router_enable="YES",
> >>>defaultrouter=192.168.2.1....doesnt work.
> >>>
> >>>what am i doing wrong in getting this box up and running?
> >>
> >>You don't understand routing.
> >>If you ifconfig a box to be 192.168.2.1/24 and then set the default
> >>router
> >>to be 192.168.2.1: the machine sends all traffic not destined for
> >>192.168.2.0/24 to itself to be routed.  However, it didn't know how
> >>to route the traffic the first time, thus it isn't going to work the
> >>second time either.  One good rule to remember is that a default
> gateway
> >>should always be a different machine, and one that has _more_ routing
> >>capability that the one you're configuring.
> >>If I understand your description correctly, the default gateway should
> >>be 192.168.0.1 for all these machines.
> >>I can only assume that you're configuring the system in such a manner
> >>for experimental purposes, as I can see no reason for such a
> >>configuration
> >>in practice.
> >>You leave netmasks off in your description, but I'm assuming that
> you're
> >>using /24 for everything.  This means you'll have to put static routes
> >>in
> >>each machine to allow them to get to 192.168.0.1, as they'll have no
> way
> >>to automatically reach that machine.  The default router will also
> need
> >>routes manually configured in order to be able to communicate back to
> >>them
> >>(unless it's running some sort of route discovery program).
> >>
> >>If you're not configuring the network like this for experimental
> >>reasons,
> >>then you're configuring it very poorly.  A small network like you
> >>describe should have all the machines on the same subnet: 192.168.0.2,
> >>192.168.0.3, 192.168.0.4, etc
> >>
> >>-- 
> >>Bill Moran
> >>Potential Technologies
> >>http://www.potentialtech.com
> >>
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > =====
> > Will Williams
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Bill Moran
> Potential Technologies
> http://www.potentialtech.com
> 
> 
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