From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 9 17:38:33 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22FB110656AA for ; Mon, 9 May 2011 17:38:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAE2B8FC16 for ; Mon, 9 May 2011 17:38:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-63-204.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.63.204]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42D641E4E3 for ; Mon, 9 May 2011 19:38:31 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id p49HcU9m001646 for ; Mon, 9 May 2011 19:38:30 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Mon, 9 May 2011 19:38:30 +0200 From: Polytropon To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20110509193830.d950352d.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20110509150436.61984090@gumby.homeunix.com> References: <20110509150436.61984090@gumby.homeunix.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Newbie Needing Help X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 May 2011 17:38:33 -0000 On Mon, 9 May 2011 15:04:36 +0100, RW wrote: > There's also ee in the base system, which is good enough for editing > configuration files, and is much easier for a casual user. The benefits > of vi and emacs are mostly for developers. I'd like to mention the Midnight Commander. You can easily install it by entering (as root) pkg_add -r mc and then use the PF3 key to view a file, PF4 to edit it. Note that "check a file" refers to the action of viewing (and reading / comparing with a given pattern) the file, in opposite to executing a file (also "running a file"). Executing obviously is only possible with executable files (those that contain program code in one way or the other). For those who come from a DOS background (not _that_ DOS, the _other_ DOS), tools like the Midnight Commander are very welcome. Personally, I use it on a daily basis although I come from a _real_ DOS background. :-) The two-panel layout caters source-target-thinking in operations (instead of the strange misconception of using the edit buffer to transfer files, as it's an unhealthy habit in many GUIs). The excellent support for keyboard accessibility makes the user perform tasks quick and efficiently. So as a summary to the OP: Install the Midnight Commander, and make heavy use of PF3 and PF4. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ...