From owner-freebsd-fs Mon May 14 19:36: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org Received: from wantadilla.lemis.com (wantadilla.lemis.com [192.109.197.80]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B22537B423; Mon, 14 May 2001 19:35:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: by wantadilla.lemis.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 343E16ACBE; Tue, 15 May 2001 12:05:58 +0930 (CST) Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 12:05:58 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: Kris Kennaway Cc: Terry Lambert , Kirk McKusick , Mikhail Teterin , cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG, Ruslan Ermilov , fs@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: [kris@obsecurity.org: Re: cvs commit: src/etc rc] Message-ID: <20010515120558.M59553@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <200105132342.QAA21879@beastie.mckusick.com> <200105142334.QAA05923@usr06.primenet.com> <20010515115630.H59553@wantadilla.lemis.com> <20010514193332.A85465@xor.obsecurity.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010514193332.A85465@xor.obsecurity.org>; from kris@obsecurity.org on Mon, May 14, 2001 at 07:33:33PM -0700 Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B 7B C3 8C 61 CD 54 AF 13 24 52 F8 6D A4 95 EF Sender: owner-freebsd-fs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Monday, 14 May 2001 at 19:33:33 -0700, Kris Kennaway wrote: > On Tue, May 15, 2001 at 11:56:30AM +0930, Greg Lehey wrote: > >>> Rebooting is a good idea, in any case, since you really can't >>> trust the results of programs run from a bogified FS. >> >> This sounds like a Microsoft idea. Isn't that the reason why they >> want you to reboot if you do something like changing the default >> router? > > No, they're different: one is rebooting to recover from an unknown, > catastrophic error from which it may be dangerous to continue, and the > other is rebooting to recover from a non-fatal condition which the > programmers have not bothered to handle online. It's a matter of degree. Since the programmers haven't bothered to handle it online, it's potentially dangerous to continue without rebooting. Given enough effort, we could also recover from the failed fsck. Greg -- Finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-fs" in the body of the message