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Date:      Tue, 12 May 2020 12:04:27 +0200
From:      Maciej Suszko <maciej@suszko.eu>
To:        Tomasz CEDRO <tomek@cedro.info>, FreeBSD Questions Mailing List <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: Microsoft Teams for Linux
Message-ID:  <9329b8e5-c973-c65e-2261-c529dbfc5e7d@suszko.eu>
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On 5/8/20 10:46 PM, Tomasz CEDRO wrote:

[ c u t ]

> Maybe if software vendors cared more about open standards, testing and
> support for Open-Source platforms, instead "works for me buy my stuff" =
or
> "time to market test on users or forget" shortcuts, we would not have s=
uch
> problems like the videoconferencing just showed up two days ago.
>=20
> I guess there may be a positive outcome if there is a strong demand and=

> push from Open-Source community. We can make things work with a bit of
> support and good will from vendor. We all know how it works but I send =
good
> wishes so it happens :-)

I do not insist using Open Source or open standards everywhere, I'm not
idealist. The problem with Microsoft is they tell everyone you can you
their services over the web, which is not true... I pay for the service
but can't use it - that's sick. I would understand if desktop
application would be the only solution to use the service, but it's not.
Why MacOS is supported and everything can work here? Same case with
Netflix - I pay for the service, it's web-based but there is no DRM
plugins for our environment, so you can't use it. If there would be an
app and that would be the only way to use the service - it's fair.

The question is why "all" the providers do not want to support FreeBSD,
is it really such a nightmare to compile some source and give a binary
to people? I'm sure this is the best community willing to help, but I'm
also sure there is plenty of Linuxism in our world and it can be the
problem.... Maybe we need to have some sort of developer toolkit for
software providers, to make their life easier building stuff for FreeBSD.=

--=20
regards, Maciej Suszko.


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