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Date:      Wed, 01 Apr 2015 11:43:05 -0500
From:      Bryan Drewery <bdrewery@FreeBSD.org>
To:        Alexey Dokuchaev <danfe@FreeBSD.org>, Kubilay Kocak <koobs@FreeBSD.org>
Cc:        Sunpoet Po-Chuan Hsieh <sunpoet@FreeBSD.org>, svn-ports-head@freebsd.org, svn-ports-all@freebsd.org, ports-committers@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: svn commit: r369643 - head/misc/getopt
Message-ID:  <551C2019.5010904@FreeBSD.org>
In-Reply-To: <20150401110943.GA82458@FreeBSD.org>
References:  <201409301619.s8UGJg6b078754@svn.freebsd.org> <543844FA.1010908@FreeBSD.org> <551ADD5F.1060004@FreeBSD.org> <551BCF17.2050303@FreeBSD.org> <20150401110943.GA82458@FreeBSD.org>

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On 4/1/2015 6:09 AM, Alexey Dokuchaev wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 01, 2015 at 09:57:27PM +1100, Kubilay Kocak wrote:
>> On 1/04/2015 4:46 AM, Bryan Drewery wrote:
>>>> Were these updates even tested? [...]
>>>> This broke xorg, git, xfce, qt, the list goes on. No packages are
>>>> provided for this large list this week.
>>>>
>>>> Commits _must be tested_.
>>>
>>> Sorry for being so harsh here.
>=20
> (To Bryan) nothing to be sorry about.  Trivially avoidable fuckups shou=
ld
> not be tolerated.
>=20

Yes people must test. I still feel I overreacted though. Especially
considering I don't test my own changes on every release/arch. I do what
I feel is needed with the changes and often find mistakes. We're all huma=
n.

>> +1
>>
>> We need more things that help us 'fail fast', 'fail cheap', 'fail safe=
'
>> and 'fail closed', independent of, and in addition to 'test commits'.

That reminds me that I need to improve the script to actually "fail
fast". It currently finishes the build first. So it may fail 1501 5
minutes into the build and then spend the next 10 hours building things
that will never publish.

>=20
> We already have 1) tinderbox; and 2) p<murmur>re.  On a related note, I=

> see the line QAT in every commit message that leads nowhere.  Why don't=

> we fix that thing, or remove stale and non-working link?
>=20

I will remove it for now.

Bryan


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