From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 20 01:43:04 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E79D8C7F for ; Wed, 20 Nov 2013 01:43:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from p3plsmtpa11-07.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (p3plsmtpa11-07.prod.phx3.secureserver.net [68.178.252.108]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C99E22C90 for ; Wed, 20 Nov 2013 01:43:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ethic.thought.org ([209.180.213.209]) by p3plsmtpa11-07.prod.phx3.secureserver.net with id rdhR1m00G4XeM0101dhSbv; Tue, 19 Nov 2013 18:41:26 -0700 Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2013 17:41:34 -0800 From: Gary Kline To: Polytropon Subject: Re: math "formulae" using libreoffice Message-ID: <20131120014134.GA9893@ethic.thought.org> References: <20131120000851.GA8007@ethic.thought.org> <20131120014303.7eb2bd44.freebsd@edvax.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20131120014303.7eb2bd44.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.16 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2013 01:43:04 -0000 Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. Of_Interest: With 27 years of service to the Unix community. On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 01:43:03AM +0100, Polytropon wrote: > On Tue, 19 Nov 2013 16:08:51 -0800, Gary Kline wrote: > > Anybody know how I would create the symbols (using "S" and "lim") > > to convey: > > > > int from {X} to {Y} > > lim as X approaches infinity > > > > ?? > > > > note that the "S" is the integral symbol. I dont know what text > > to write for the "limit" part. > > Even though it would probably be much easier to do that kind > of typesetting in LaTeX (because word processors have shown > that they are a terrible tool for scientific writing, or for > writing in general) and then export the result as EPS (or > make a screenshot and export that to PNG and include it as > an image), here's what I've tried: > > Menu: Insert -> Object -> Formula (starts the formula editor) > Select the "Sigma a" category (operators) > Select S x (integral x) > Select Sigma a=... b=... (lower and upper boundary) > Enter "x" and "y" accordingly > After the integral, enter the word "lim" > Select Sigma a=... (lower boundary) > Enter "x" > Select the "a speechbubble" category (others) > Select the right-pointing arrow > Select the infinity symbol (first one in this category) > > Note that the menu entries are translated. I'm using the german > version of OpenOffice here, so the english captions might be > a bit different. > > The formula which is the result of this terribly complicated > process is: > > int from{x} to{y} lim from{x rightarrow infinity} > > The will be replaced by whatever follows. > > Maybe you could simply copy'n'paste this formula into the formula > editor's lower window ("programming window") and start further > editing from that, I think that's much easier than the clicking > orgy described above. > > You should get something like this: > > y > / > | lim > / x -> oo > x > > There's an alternative, much worse: Use Insert -> Special character > and create the required text by "microformatting". It's dirty and > will take much longer, and any change is complicated. > > Maybe this page can be helpful: > > https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/OOo3_User_Guides/Math_Guide/Entering_a_formula > > As I said, LaTeX's $\int_x^y \lim_{x \to \infty}$ is easier. :-) > > Helpful page: > > http://www.maths.tcd.ie/~dwilkins/LaTeXPrimer/Calculus.html > OMG: I'l hv to read this tmrrrw, polyt. but thanks a few zillion. between you/me, I was an A student in all but "lineral algebra"::::: there w as no fuc*king way I was going to do that much typing, platen-turning, resetting, ETC for [onee] cr ummy course! billjoy hacked lotsa stuf in teX< but IIRC , it was text, no msth. thats been a Lot of years ago, :_) > > -- > Polytropon > Magdeburg, Germany > Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 > Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix Twenty-seven years of service to the Unix community. http://www.thought.org/HOPE