From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 29 11:54:50 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F78016A4CE for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 11:54:50 +0000 (GMT) Received: from colossus.hpl.hp.com (colossus.hpl.hp.com [192.6.10.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A55143D41 for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 11:54:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from s-freebsd-qns-oct04@zaba.com) Received: from otter.hpl.hp.com (otter.hpl.hp.com [15.144.59.2]) by colossus.hpl.hp.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i9TBrdh4006919 for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 12:53:40 +0100 (BST) Received: from [15.204.20.118] (branaid118.uksr.hp.com [15.204.20.118]) Internal Mail Hub) with SMTP id MAA28045 for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 12:53:39 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <41822F3B.5070108@zaba.com> Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 12:53:31 +0100 From: Stefek Zaba User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.8 (Windows/20040913) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20041028185347.GA1917@zaba-s-2.hpl.hp.com> <4181C1A2.2040707@mac.com> In-Reply-To: <4181C1A2.2040707@mac.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-HPL-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the helpdesk for more information X-HPL-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-HPL-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (score=-2.766, required 5, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -0.84, BAYES_00 -2.60, FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS 0.68) X-MailScanner-From: s-freebsd-qns-oct04@zaba.com Subject: Re: shutdown(8): supposed to dismount all FSes? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 11:54:50 -0000 Chuck Swiger wrote: > > ...I recall that there are some issues handling ext2fs filesystems > cleanly during the shutdown process, which tend to cause them to not be > unmounted properly. It's considered a bug. > Thanks, Chuck. When I tried searching the PRs for this, I came up blank; but your reply caused me to search harder, and indeed this is a dup of 'PR kern/56675: Syncer "giving up" on buffers and ext2 filesystems' which is still Open, reported 10sep03. My experience suggests it's still a problem with 5.3-RC1. Obviously, on a "production" FreeBSD system, this bug is of minor relevance, as you'll be running UFS throughouth. But for the multibooters among us, who are looking (say) to straddle the Linux and BSD worlds, being able to mount the "old" ext2/ext3 partitions routinely is a Good Thing in easing the transition; so for such users the bug is more important. Still, I've no idea whether this is a relatively easy fix which just needs Motivation to address, or whether the ext2fs code is a "please don't make me go there" area! Ta, Stefek