From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 30 19:46:07 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59E5F16A417 for ; Thu, 30 Aug 2007 19:46:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from louisk@cryptomonkeys.com) Received: from abeyance.cryptomonkeys.com (abeyance.cryptomonkeys.com [67.42.3.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAA5D13C467 for ; Thu, 30 Aug 2007 19:46:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from louisk@cryptomonkeys.com) Received: from localhost ([168.61.10.147]) (authenticated bits=0) by abeyance.cryptomonkeys.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l7UJVmYR024935 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 30 Aug 2007 12:31:55 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 12:28:12 -0700 From: Louis Kowolowski To: Michael Schuh Message-ID: <20070830192812.GD25442@cryptomonkeys.com> Mail-Followup-To: Michael Schuh , freebsd-isp@freebsd.org References: <1dbad3150708291826y5ed57502l5915aba62f71f62c@mail.gmail.com> <46D6F1CD.30805@ccstores.com> <1dbad3150708301103x5b4423cra46d22c4afd802d1@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1dbad3150708301103x5b4423cra46d22c4afd802d1@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i User-Agent: TV Remote 3.2b X-Disclaimer: WARNING: May contain scarcasm! X-Header: "WARNING: POLITICALLY INCORRECT AREA All P.C. Personnel entering these premises will encounter gravely offensive behavior and opinions. (SEC4623. Ministry of political incorrection security act of 1995) RAMPANT INSENSITIVITY AUTHORIZED" X-GPG-Fingerprint: 7A77 80FD 3F4D 995E A807 A218 664D 2BEA 8024 37B6 X-GPG-Key: http://www.cryptomonkeys.com/~louisk/pgp.html Organization: Hopelessly Disorganized Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ISP Webfrontends for Management X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 19:46:07 -0000 On Thu, Aug 30, 2007 at 08:03:42PM +0200, Michael Schuh wrote: > Hi @list, > > (i would answer to the list, not to the persons only) > > First thanks for the suggestions. > > Now my personal opinions: > I like solutions that ar small, smart and easy to administrate/update. > Such as syscp. But syscp doesn't have all the functionality that i like. > dtc looks very good, but have tons of dependencies that are not really > needed. > raqdevil shold be a good solution if it get installed right, but it doesn't > in a jail. > > webin is overloaded, while the customer from me doesn't like a fully system > management, and in the last twelve years of my experiences with > linux/freebsd > i have many many boxes seen that have been cracked and misused as > mailgateways/streamingservers > or public ftpservers from crackers. because the updates from webin are not > all times > maked fast enough. > > qmail is good but for me it is a little bit to complex to handle, > i prefer combinations such as > named(bind9)/postfix/sa/dspam/cyrus-imap(also with murder-config) or courier > or dovecot for small > enviroments. for Databases i like to prefer postgresql before mysql and > apache or lightttpd. > > And that are the components that i have to manage over a single webfrontend. > So that at this moment syscp is the only one that can handle this and only > this, > not more and not less, but it lacks of support for sa/dspam. > ok dspam brings his own webfrontend but sa not and sa is very complex > to configure while it has tons of features......so i think about it to leave > it out from > the box and use only dspam..... > > the webfrontends for cyrus are not really good IMHO > > thanks for your suggestions > You might try ISPMan (http://www.ispman.net/) It's apache/cyrus/postfix/ldap. -- Louis Kowolowski KE7BAX louisk@cryptomonkeys.com Cryptomonkeys: http://www.cryptomonkeys.com/~louisk Warning: Do not point laser at remaining eye!