Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2002 01:05:29 -0800 From: "Sung-Shik Yang" <syang1@cox.rr.com> To: "Kristian Hansen" <kristian.hansen@post.tele.dk> Cc: <freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: cdrom Message-ID: <018a01c1a25a$c622a480$6401a8c0@yungwoongmoon.goh> References: <006101c1a1a2$fa5171e0$6401a8c0@yungwoongmoon.goh> <001701c1a199$739ad640$0601a8c0@DELL01>
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This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0187_01C1A217.B7D631A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks for your tips Kristian. I think I should do some kind of remote installation. FTP installation = maybe the choice. But, this machine only has modem. I have another = machine that has Linux on it. Can I use PLIP to do the job? Since this = machine I want to install FreeBSD on is pretty old machine, I am not = sure if there are any NICs that fit to it. Gosh, I need to set the = Linux machine first to explore the option of PLIP. Once I succeed in FreeBSD installation, recognizing the CDROM drive is = going to be the next challenge. Long way to go. Is there any advice on = my possible options? Can I set up the Linux machine as the FTP server = to get the FreeBSD source? <Machine A (Linux)> <Machine B (to install FreeBSD)> Pentium I (233MHz) Pentium I (75MHz) 64MB RAM 40MB RAM NIC No NIC Modem (56K) Modem (56K) Serial/Parallel ports Serial/Parallel ports I also have a router which connects the Linux machine and another = machine running Win98 - I don't regard this machine as an option to use, = though. Sung-Shik Yang =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Make what is impossible possible. Man can die only once, not twice. - Special Warfare Command Do what a man can do,=20 then wait for heaven's will. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Kristian Hansen=20 To: Sung-Shik Yang=20 Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org=20 Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2002 2:01 AM Subject: Re: cdrom Hi, This CD-ROm drive you're using is _not_ an IDE drive, hence it does = not show in the BIOS. The drive is likely to be an OEM Matshushita 2x speed drive. It uses a = proprietary connection, which looks like an IDE interface. There is a driver for FreeBSD for this device (matcd), but it is not = in the generic kernel.=20 You have two optios for how to install: 1) Make a custom kernel, including the matcd driver and create your = own boot floppy. You should then be able to proceed with the install. = You cannot tell the installer to install from a cd drive at this stage, = rather you should tell the installer to use a disk partition. As far as = I remember, this requires you to mount the cd at some mount point. 2) Install FreeBSD via FTP, and then create a custom kernel including = the matcd driver. If you have a fast and stable connection to the = internet, this is the option I'll recommend you use. Regards Kristian Hansen ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Sung-Shik Yang=20 To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org=20 Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2002 12:09 PM Subject: cdrom Hi everyone, I was trying to install FreeBSD 4.4 on an old Pentium machine from = CDROM, but it didn't even detect the CDROM. The following is the spec. Pentium 1 (75MHz), 40MB RAM Separate I/O controller card (Winbond chip, SMC chip), which = connects to an HDD and an FDD. One FDD, One HDD (Pri. IDE Master). SoundBlaster 16 card. CDROM manufactured by Creative Labs Inc., which made the sound card = above. Strange thing is, the BIOS wouldn't define the CDROM. There's 4 IDE = sections (Pri. master/slave, Sec. master/slave), but they are specificly = for HDD configuration with cyl/head/sec stuff. If I just put = "user"(-defined) option there and make the cyl/head/sec fields as 0, = then the setup freezes even before memory checking step. So, I have to = leave all three IDE settings as "none" at least to boot normally. The sound card has two ports. The indicator says one of them is = "IDE interface" and the other is "SoundBlaster Pro / Panasonic CDROM" or = something. Currently the CDROM cable is connected to the "IDE = interface" port of the sound card. The jumper at the back of the CDROM = drive is set as "slave". So, I guess it signifies that the CDROM should = be treated as primary slave IDE device, while the BIOS doesn't even know = its presence. Even more strange, Running Windows98, CDROM is detected = somehow and runs fine. Any ideas or advices? Sung-Shik Yang = =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Make what is impossible possible. Man can die only once, not twice. - Special Warfare Command Do what a man can do,=20 then wait for heaven's will. = =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D ------=_NextPart_000_0187_01C1A217.B7D631A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; = charset=3Diso-8859-1"> <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2712.300" name=3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2>Thanks for your tips = Kristian.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2>I think I should do = some kind of=20 remote installation. FTP installation maybe the choice. But, = this=20 machine only has modem. I have another machine that has Linux on = it. =20 Can I use PLIP to do the job? Since this machine I want to = install=20 FreeBSD on is pretty old machine, I am not sure if there are any NICs = that fit=20 to it. Gosh, I need to set the Linux machine first to explore the = option=20 of PLIP.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2>Once I succeed in FreeBSD = installation,=20 recognizing the CDROM drive is going to be the next challenge. = Long way to=20 go. Is there any advice on my possible options? Can I set=20 up the Linux machine as the FTP server to get the FreeBSD=20 source?</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><Machine A=20 (Linux)> <Machine B (to = install=20 FreeBSD)></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2>Pentium I=20 (233MHz) Pentium I=20 (75MHz)</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2>64MB=20 RAM &nbs= p; =20 40MB RAM</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D"Courier New"=20 size=3D2>NIC &= nbsp; =20 No NIC</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D"Courier New"=20 size=3D2>Modem (56K) = Modem=20 (56K)</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2>Serial/Parallel=20 ports Serial/Parallel ports</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2>I also have a router which = connects the=20 Linux machine and another machine running Win98 - I don't regard = this=20 machine as an option to use, though.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV>Sung-Shik = Yang<BR>=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D<BR>Make what is=20 impossible possible.<BR>Man can die only once, not=20 twice.<BR> - Special Warfare=20 Command<BR>Do what a man can do, <BR> then wait for heaven's = will.<BR>=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20 style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B>=20 <A title=3Dkristian.hansen@post.tele.dk=20 href=3D"mailto:kristian.hansen@post.tele.dk">Kristian Hansen</A> = </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A = title=3Dsyang1@cox.rr.com=20 href=3D"mailto:syang1@cox.rr.com">Sung-Shik Yang</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A = title=3Dfreebsd-hardware@freebsd.org=20 = href=3D"mailto:freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org">freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org= </A>=20 </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, January 20, 2002 = 2:01=20 AM</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: cdrom</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2></FONT><FONT face=3D"Courier = New"=20 size=3D2></FONT><BR></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hi,</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>This CD-ROm drive you're using is = _not_ an IDE=20 drive, hence it does not show in the BIOS.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The drive is likely to be an OEM = Matshushita 2x=20 speed drive. It uses a proprietary connection, which looks like an IDE = interface.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>There is a driver for FreeBSD for = this device=20 (matcd), but it is not in the generic kernel. </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>You have two optios for how to=20 install:</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>1) Make a custom kernel, including = the matcd=20 driver and create your own boot floppy. You should then be able to = proceed=20 with the install. You cannot tell the installer to install from a cd = drive at=20 this stage, rather you should tell the installer to use a disk = partition. As=20 far as I remember, this requires you to mount the cd at some mount=20 point.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>2) Install FreeBSD via FTP, and then = create a=20 custom kernel including the matcd driver. If you have a fast and = stable=20 connection to the internet, this is the option I'll recommend you=20 use.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Regards</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Kristian Hansen</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE=20 style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B>=20 <A title=3Dsyang1@cox.rr.com = href=3D"mailto:syang1@cox.rr.com">Sung-Shik=20 Yang</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20 title=3Dfreebsd-hardware@freebsd.org=20 = href=3D"mailto:freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org">freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org= </A>=20 </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, January 20, = 2002 12:09=20 PM</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> cdrom</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2>Hi everyone,</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2>I was trying to install = FreeBSD 4.4 on=20 an old Pentium machine from CDROM, but it didn't even detect the=20 CDROM. The following is the spec.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2>Pentium 1 (75MHz), 40MB=20 RAM</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2>Separate I/O controller = card (Winbond=20 chip, SMC chip), which connects to an HDD and=20 an FDD.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2>One FDD, One HDD (Pri. IDE=20 Master).</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2>SoundBlaster 16 = card.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2>CDROM manufactured by = Creative Labs=20 Inc., which made the sound card above.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2>Strange thing is, the BIOS = wouldn't=20 define the CDROM. There's 4 IDE sections (Pri. master/slave, = Sec.=20 master/slave), but they are specificly for HDD configuration with=20 cyl/head/sec stuff. If I just put "user"(-defined) option = there and=20 make the cyl/head/sec fields as 0, then the setup freezes even = before memory=20 checking step. So, I have to leave all three IDE settings as = "none" at=20 least to boot normally.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2>The sound card has two = ports. The=20 indicator says one of them is "IDE interface" and the other is = "SoundBlaster=20 Pro / Panasonic CDROM" or something. Currently the CDROM = cable is=20 connected to the "IDE interface" port of the sound = card. The=20 jumper at the back of the CDROM drive is set as "slave". So, I = guess=20 it signifies that the CDROM should be treated = as primary slave IDE=20 device, while the BIOS doesn't even know its presence. = Even more=20 strange, Running Windows98, CDROM is detected somehow and runs=20 fine.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2>Any ideas or = advices?</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2>Sung-Shik=20 = Yang<BR>=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D<BR>Make what is impossible=20 possible.<BR>Man can die only once, not=20 twice.<BR> - Special = Warfare=20 Command<BR>Do what a man can do, <BR> then wait for = heaven's=20 = will.<BR>=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D</FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOT= E></BODY></HTML> ------=_NextPart_000_0187_01C1A217.B7D631A0-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message
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