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Date:      Mon, 10 Dec 2001 10:05:03 -0500
From:      Paul Murphy <pnmurphy@cogeco.ca>
To:        "David O'Brien" <obrien@FreeBSD.ORG>
Cc:        steve@FreeBSD.ORG, lioux@FreeBSD.ORG, portmgr@FreeBSD.ORG, ports@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: GNOME/KDE issue with disc1
Message-ID:  <20011210100503.70a33f5d.pnmurphy@cogeco.ca>
In-Reply-To: <20011209181503.A1921@dragon.nuxi.com>
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On Sun, 9 Dec 2001 18:15:03 -0800
"David O'Brien" <obrien@FreeBSD.ORG> wrote:

> On Sun, Dec 09, 2001 at 07:27:45PM -0500, Paul Murphy wrote:
> >  Personally I would think disc1 should take a "lets get up and
running"
> > attitude, and contain a "simpler" desktop. KDE and GNOME are way too
> > bloated for a _basic_ install.
> 
> I still use the same desktop and window manager I have for the past 8
> years (which means not GNOME or KDE) so I'm not giving favors to either

 I DO use KDE, but it was not the _first_ desktop I installed (AfterStep
was).

> -- but we cannot ignore that these are the two most popular desktops
> today.  W/o the added functionality those two give over my own CTWM, we
> cannot attract and please those of the M$ generation.  
> 

 If people buy(?) a four disc set I'm sure they would realise that not
everything could go on the #1 disc. [ They might even feel cheated if all
they needed was one disk, but they had to pay for four]


> Maybe I should be saying it simpler -- that getting KDE and GNOME
> installed from get go *is* a basic install today.
> 

 The label on my disc one says "Insallation Boot, ESSENTIAL Packages,
XFree86" [emphasis mine]. I would think this contained things like Bash,
pine, etc - all console apps. The only reason I would expect ANY X11 apps
is because XFree86 is on the disc, and I would only expect to find enough
to get X11 running. Pesonally I wouldn't even put XFree86 on disc one but
I realise it might be difficult to fill the disc space otherwise.

> -- 
> -- David  (obrien@FreeBSD.org)
> 


-- 
 I call it "No-Pants Wonderday," but it turns out the police just call it
"Thursday." Go figure.

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