From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 18 19:07:22 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A2BF7F0B; Fri, 18 Jul 2014 19:07:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-qc0-x234.google.com (mail-qc0-x234.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c01::234]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3ECA8245F; Fri, 18 Jul 2014 19:07:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-qc0-f180.google.com with SMTP id l6so3608216qcy.25 for ; Fri, 18 Jul 2014 12:07:20 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type; bh=Nfet/vFxfs6JQcVc/LTXSa7ey39A5HdV9iH0j3ECNNE=; b=zbY/uqFiiKWoxBPcc0PQ+75eW2LJ1q++9MAQeR8xEfFaUj8IbEJBJ/aayHnMqDtOib xk8wHlp4g9ssqeSMNRCPo8BU0sVfBTgcAIeICvOnK2puLb70H6QR7mawWc2PHkH8NCuZ 5Se9bpJUQLGLwdkAaipQiddQuiJ1qZP5RWlwaWNOumjL2DFDNu1fJH0vUHEWqSE8ugwO EbZVmkgruIgNTYpB/O27EVk8fify2VtqTrez9+w+6RTC/bhxpDyB1locei7tm3tSii6B pgZESysEsA6nsNs3tlfUwdsIJTt7O88rOS1Yao1IqfH3IpzNddnMDC24ycsavMApa5gL AOQg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.224.171.197 with SMTP id i5mr11818323qaz.55.1405710439246; Fri, 18 Jul 2014 12:07:19 -0700 (PDT) Sender: adrian.chadd@gmail.com Received: by 10.224.1.6 with HTTP; Fri, 18 Jul 2014 12:07:19 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <53C706C9.6090506@com.jkkn.dk> <20140718110645.GN87212@FreeBSD.org> <20140718151255.b3e677d9.gerrit.kuehn@aei.mpg.de> Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2014 12:07:19 -0700 X-Google-Sender-Auth: dMA6uLl0NE2eiYRNDNBrDjhjdTQ Message-ID: Subject: Re: Future of pf / firewall in FreeBSD ? - does it have one ? From: Adrian Chadd To: krad Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List , =?UTF-8?B?R2Vycml0IEvDvGhu?= , freebsd-current , Gleb Smirnoff , Matt Bettinger X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2014 19:07:22 -0000 On 18 July 2014 07:34, krad wrote: > that is true and I have not problem using man pages, however thats not the > way most of the world work and search engines arent exactly new either. We > should be trying to engage more people not less, and part of that is > reaching out. Then do the port and maintain it. The problem isn't the desire to keep things up to date, it's a lack of people who want that _and_ are willing/able to do it _and_ are funded somehow. So, please step up! We'll all love you for it. -a