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Date:      Wed, 14 Sep 2016 17:01:38 -0500
From:      John Marino <freebsd.contact@marino.st>
To:        Steve Wills <swills@FreeBSD.org>, marino@freebsd.org, Mathieu Arnold <mat@FreeBSD.org>, Adam Weinberger <adamw@anoxia.adamw.org>, Antoine Brodin <antoine@FreeBSD.org>
Cc:        ports-committers@freebsd.org, svn-ports-all@freebsd.org, svn-ports-head@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: svn commit: r422160 - in head: chinese/fortune french/fortune-mod-zarathoustra misc/fortune-mod-bible misc/fortune-mod-bofh misc/fortune-mod-culmea-culmilor misc/fortune-mod-epictetus misc/fortune-...
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On 9/14/2016 16:55, Steve Wills wrote:
> On 09/14/2016 17:28, John Marino wrote:
>> The fact is that the scenario above is legitimate and it was fixed.
>
> I'm not sure I agree. There are exceptions, but ports hasn't typically
> accommodated all the things that can be disabled in base.
>
> Looks like there are 179 WITHOUT_* knobs. I'm probably missing
> something, but it looks like ports only currently accommodates
> WITHOUT_NLS and WITHOUT_SSP. Not all of the WITHOUT_* knobs would affect
> ports, but adding support for all the WITHOUT_* knobs would still be a
> big decision and a big job. Adding support for WITHOUT_GAMES would have
> been different from what was done.
>

Fact 1) I identified it as a problem
Fact 2) I solved the problem.  The ports were cleaner as a result.
Fact 3) Somebody exerted energy to revert my work

There are over 26,000 ports.  This one should have caused no one to 
notice.  Half of the fortune ports are currently marked broken because 
they are unfetchable.  Even if you disagree for whatever reason, at 
*worst* it wasn't hurting anything.

The insult to injury it that this stuff was pulled immediately after I 
spent several days fixing SSL across the entire tree.  Trust me, I'm 
pretty ticked off right now and it is personal for me.

John

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