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Date:      Thu, 11 Aug 2005 07:52:38 -0700
From:      Steve Kargl <sgk@troutmask.apl.washington.edu>
To:        Kris Kennaway <kris@obsecurity.org>
Cc:        freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: OpenOffice2.0 64Bit ready?
Message-ID:  <20050811145238.GA11289@troutmask.apl.washington.edu>
In-Reply-To: <20050811130805.GA48042@xor.obsecurity.org>
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On Thu, Aug 11, 2005 at 09:08:05AM -0400, Kris Kennaway wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 10, 2005 at 10:11:25PM -0700, Steve Kargl wrote:
> > On Wed, Aug 10, 2005 at 08:55:08PM -0400, Kris Kennaway wrote:
> > > On Wed, Aug 10, 2005 at 04:28:19PM -0700, Steve Kargl wrote:
> > > > On Wed, Aug 10, 2005 at 07:02:38PM -0400, Kris Kennaway wrote:
> > > > > On Tue, Aug 09, 2005 at 11:13:22PM -0700, Steve Kargl wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > > To some extent, the Ports Collection has outlived its usefulness.
> > > > > > It took me 4 hours to fix libgmp4 and add a new port for mpfr
> > > > > > because the Porter's Handbook is useless.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Thanks for the constructive criticism!
> > > > 
> > > > Your welcomed.  Now, I'll wait to see how long it 
> > > > takes to commit the change.
> > > 
> > > *sound of sarcasm going by Steve*
> > > 
> > 
> > Touche.
> > 
> > man ports
> > 
> > BUGS
> >      Ports documentation is split over four places --
> >      /usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk, The Porter's Handbook, the ``Packages and
> >      Ports'' chapter of The FreeBSD Handbook, and this manual page.
> 
> Do you have a specific point?  Some of those 4 sources duplicate a lot
> of information, and also cover different areas.  What about this,
> precisely, makes the Porters' Handbook "useless", in your opinion?

Each of those documents contains material not found in the others.
One may need to read *all* 4 to find the answer to their question.
That is, if one knows all 4 exists.

> > I believe sarcasm looks like
> > 
> > 2000/06/30 ports/19594 new port: x11/qrash-sdl
> 
> If you say so.
> 

Oh the irony.  This repartee started with my statement "To some
extent, the Ports Collection has outlived its usefulness."  I listed
only those PR's with "new port" in the subject.  Don't you find
it somewhat useless for someone to submit a "new port" when it sits
in the PR database for 5 years, 1 month, 12 days.  Several of the
others have sat in the PR database for 3 or more years.

-- 
Steve



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